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Ending every season on a cliffhanger and having 2-year hiatus between each season is also how they got such huge and ravenous fandom. The amount of theories, meta-analyses, fanfiction that was created back then, was off all charts. Especially after S2. Those were glorious days.
Yeah, I didn’t start watching this show until they’d finished Season 2 - when I watched this episode, I was SOOO smug that I didn’t have to wait two years to watch the next one. Then I watched Season 2, and commenced to calling everyone involved ugly names.
the old woman's death was not Sherlock's fault. She started describing him on the phone so Moriarty killed her. Moriarty was playing a game and couldn't have Sherlock get clues for free. When she said "his voice was so soft" he killed her.
She was crazed by terror, a terror he induced by prolonging her ordeal to have time to collect clues. She would certainly not have been so panicked if she had been saved as soon as possible and not after hours of being trapped, bound and waiting death. It is clearly on the bitton pusher nonetheless and not on Sherlock, but he bears responsibility on this.
@@HuntingViolets I have. It’s epic. He says so much without using any words. The cinematography is gorgeous too. You could freeze at any point and hang the still on your wall. I’ve seen everything he’s done except for the plays he has been in that weren’t filmed. Got tickets for next spring to see his Vanya in New York. Beyond excited!
Cumberbatch also voiced Sauron in the Hobbit films. The behind the scenes on that was fascinating, they wanted Sauron to sound as unnatural as possible so he was tasked with saying all his lines in Black Speech backwards, then they reversed it for the film.
Remember that first episode: John: "Just met a friend of yours." Sherlock: "A friend?" John: "An enemy." Sherlock: "Oh. Which one?" There's a reason for that and you get to see that. Hope having a 'Watson' by his side, it might change him a little bit. What did we do during this 2 years of waiting? Rewatching it like a zillion times. I know so many dialogue by heart and enjoyed watching the astetic filming of this show. That soothed me. And we had Doctor Who to watch. It was a long wait, but it is SO worth it. You'll enjoy the next season 100%. Lucky guys seeing it all for the first time.
Bear in mind that when this came out on TV originally we had to wait a long time for the next season and had that cliffhangar to think about. V frustrating !!
Omg keep the Sherlock coming! your reactions to these are exact same as mine were 😂 - I was sooo disturbed by the old lady getting killed off and also thought Watson was Moriarity for a quick sec.
i watched this series when they apeared. i would like to say that it was hard to wait for the next season, but i used to have a preaty busy life back then. but i do remember being super excited when the new episodes where on especially in the last season. i would prefer right now to wait 2 more years for the next serie than knowing that are no more episodes to come...
Holmes in the 19th century would not have worn a deerstalker in London, although he does in many adaptations. Sidney Paget, the illustrator did draw it in after Watson referred to Holmes as wearing a flap-eared traveling cap on a case in the country, so I consider it to be a melding of author and illustrator.
I found the performance of Moriarty v chilling and threatening. That actor [Andrew Scott] is a great part of the superb series Fleabag - that's a watch in itself…
It was never confirmed but after the argument with John about understanding the moon and the earths rotation, I theories that Sherlock researched about stars and celestial bodies because he was trying to prove a point to Watson, and that exact info became useful for this exact case. Because John cares about the little details.
Sherlock's boredom also leads to his addiction. He needs to keep his mind busy, or he becomes self-destructive :/ it's cannon in all Sherlock Holmes remakes as it's established in the books
Can you even BEGIN to imagine how frustrating that ending was, and having to wait nearly TWO BLOODY YEARS to find out what happened next?!!! It was torture!
What stops or distracts a villain? Created by Mark Gatiss Steven Moffat I think it helps to know year release of Sherlock episodes and Doctor Who series. There are some Sherlock Easter eggs that show up in Doctor Who. (At least one I know of.) Sherlock: 2010-2017 Series 1: 2010 Series 2: 2012 Series 3: 2014 Special: 2016 Series 4: 2017 Doctor Who: (Moffat era) 2010-2017 Today we have advantage of instant access to knowledge on our phones. (Before it took longer and it cost money and time to get information.)
I've always felt that this episode showed Moriarty testing. Sherlock's "sociopathy". The bomb victims are increasingly more "sympathetic" as they go on... A middle aged man, then a woman... An old woman, then a child... Then John. And from watching Sherlock's response to these victims- and especially John, Moriarty decides that Sherlock does have a heart even though he doesn't think he does. Thus, he can threaten to burn it out... Sherlock has a weakness. I also thought they built this, up but they never finished with the second half of this- because it always seemed to me that they were going to complete the message that Moriarty was wrong. That John wasn't a weakness, because when they worked together they were stronger. And by giving in to that idea and leaving Sherlock made them weaker.
If you want to check out any other Sherlock Holmes adaptations that won't take intense commitment, the Japanese series _Miss Sherlock_ is great and contains the best adaptation of "The Sussex Vampire." Moffat and Gatiss's adaptation takes a lot from the Rathbone-Bruce movies, but for a single movie, there is also a lot from _The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes._ Moffat was busy with _Doctor Who_ during this period as well, of course.
Holmes (as I will continue to call the book version) shot a VR (for Victoria Regina) in the wall, although that was in later stories. There are several references to the stories in every episode. Here we also have "I'm lost without my Boswell" (said affectionately in the Canon, a reference itself to James Boswell, the biographer of Dr. Samuel Johnson -- they were turned into a Holmes-Watson duo in the fictionalized mysteries of Lilian de la Torre, by the way)/"blogger." We see here that John has taken his therapist's advice from the first episode that he start a blog. It's popular, but is it helping his mental health? Incidentally, I think John is a little hard on Sherlock here. As a doctor, he must know the risks of becoming emotionally involved in his cases and that it can be damaging to the patient if his objectivity is compromised. If he stops to be upset, that's time he could be spending on working on the problem. "What is the point if you don't care about the people you're helping?" is a bit more ruthless if you were to really carry it out. The point is the helping. He chooses to do that. Letting them die because you have to stop and be sad about it is not the morally superior choice in my view. He and John balance each other out a bit, though.
You mentioned you didn’t think it was necessary to have 5 crimes to solve. The 5 crimes were counted down by the 5 pips on the phone call and 5 pips is a reference to the original Arthur Conan Doyle story The 5 Orange Pips where the pips were sent as a warning
Andrew Scott plays Moriarty, and he's an absolute gift in this role and every role. And I disagree with one thing you guys said earlier when Sherlock was being a jerk: that no one in real life would put up with that or want to work with him. I have to disagree there: history has shown that plenty of people will bend over backward to be in the orbit genius men, no matter how awful they are as people. Just look at Steve Jobs, Elon Musk and others. They're all well-documented as being assholes, yet people give them pass after pass because they're "geniuses."
Sherlock's attitude about the Earth revolving around the Sun or 'round and round a teddy bear' is exactly my reaction when ppl try to convince me of 'Flat Earth'. It just makes no difference to my life if the Earth is flat, or a sphere, or a cube, and it shouldn't matter to almost everyone. It's just not an important thing, especially when there are so many other things that need my time and attention.
In Britain, at the time, it didn't seem that long a wait between series. Remember, each episode is like a film, so they give you 3 films to watch over a 2 week period, and 2 years later they give another 3 films to watch etc. etc. When you put it like that, it doesn't seem as bad. As for forgetting the show after 2 years, that might just be a cultural difference, and the American attention span isn't the same
I think the comments about there only being three episodes in a year then you have to wait , and it wasn't 49 weeks of nothing to wait, it was 101 weeks of nothing. But what those comments say to me, is the difference between the UK and the USA, and your (in general) obsession with TV and getting your fix. In the UK we are used to waiting, it is the way we do it. At least up until recently, I do admit that these days, with watching so much crap from USA TV, and with our TV trying so hard to please USA audiences, and trying to sell their wares to USA TV, then yeah our younger generations are becoming just like you people, can't wait, have to have my fix now. Never mind the quality, just churn it out like it is rolling off a conveyor belt. A bit like the quality of the food in the USA? 😜
- "Finale" is pronounced "fee-nah-lae", not "fi-nelly". 😂 - 5:08 For what reason would Brits (or anyone else on this planet outside the US) celebrate Thanksgiving? 😂 - 36:20 "Modern take on smoking", "smoking is one of the most disgusting things..."... You better don't talk like that here in Austria. About 25-30% of us (me included) are smokers. 😁 Oh, you Americans! 😁😉
I stuck with it for the first two "seasons" but I had a hard time keeping interest in watching the rest of the shows and I really, really, really love Cumberbatch and Freeman, all the actors actually. I love a couple of surprise plot twists that were entirely unexpected, but fun. Hated Lucy Liu being a supporting, and not very compelling supporting, actor. IMO it would have been much better with Liu as Sherlock.
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Thank you bro! As always! We will do our LIVE reaction to this episode today as well!!!
Ending every season on a cliffhanger and having 2-year hiatus between each season is also how they got such huge and ravenous fandom. The amount of theories, meta-analyses, fanfiction that was created back then, was off all charts. Especially after S2. Those were glorious days.
2 YEAR cliffhanger after this. insane.
IRL
Us old school Brits are used to it. It's been fairly standard practice since I've been alive
Aim for quality over quantity
British television has set a horrific precedent for this. But I actually think it's good for us as an audience
Yeah, I didn’t start watching this show until they’d finished Season 2 - when I watched this episode, I was SOOO smug that I didn’t have to wait two years to watch the next one.
Then I watched Season 2, and commenced to calling everyone involved ugly names.
Andrew Scott is a great villain
"Can you imagine thanksgiving dinner with these TWO!"
Oh boy!! wait fellas you're in for treat 😂
Brits dont’ do Thanksgiving. 😂
@@TorchwoodPandP I wasn't talking about thanksgiving lol
@@nocturnal_nerd I didn’t want to give it away, either, but just hint a leetle…
the old woman's death was not Sherlock's fault. She started describing him on the phone so Moriarty killed her. Moriarty was playing a game and couldn't have Sherlock get clues for free. When she said "his voice was so soft" he killed her.
Sherlock even tried to stop her: "Don't tell me anything about him."
She was crazed by terror, a terror he induced by prolonging her ordeal to have time to collect clues. She would certainly not have been so panicked if she had been saved as soon as possible and not after hours of being trapped, bound and waiting death. It is clearly on the bitton pusher nonetheless and not on Sherlock, but he bears responsibility on this.
Andrew Scott is an absolute legend. My favourite actor of all time.
And so versatile. The hot vicar in Fleabag amongst many others. And Sherlock calling him gay?
Canny be jumping aboot wae 2 first names.
@@seanstirling2685 🤣
Have you seen _Ripley?_
@@HuntingViolets I have. It’s epic. He says so much without using any words. The cinematography is gorgeous too. You could freeze at any point and hang the still on your wall. I’ve seen everything he’s done except for the plays he has been in that weren’t filmed. Got tickets for next spring to see his Vanya in New York. Beyond excited!
“Don’t turn into Celebrimbor!”
Benedict Cumberbatch voiced the dragon Smaug, and Martin Freeman played Bilbo Baggins in The Hobbit movies. 😂
Cumberbatch also voiced Sauron in the Hobbit films. The behind the scenes on that was fascinating, they wanted Sauron to sound as unnatural as possible so he was tasked with saying all his lines in Black Speech backwards, then they reversed it for the film.
If you love a good villain, Scott's Moriarty is Omega Level.
Remember that first episode:
John: "Just met a friend of yours."
Sherlock: "A friend?"
John: "An enemy."
Sherlock: "Oh. Which one?"
There's a reason for that and you get to see that.
Hope having a 'Watson' by his side, it might change him a little bit.
What did we do during this 2 years of waiting? Rewatching it like a zillion times. I know so many dialogue by heart and enjoyed watching the astetic filming of this show. That soothed me.
And we had Doctor Who to watch. It was a long wait, but it is SO worth it. You'll enjoy the next season 100%. Lucky guys seeing it all for the first time.
Bear in mind that when this came out on TV originally we had to wait a long time for the next season and had that cliffhangar to think about. V frustrating !!
Thank uu for these Sherlock reactions
Im loving em ❤
Our walls aren't made of paper. You could shoot bullets in them allday.
rekkai's camera upgrade is great
I agree, it's so much better to see his reactions so clear, cause they are gold.
Omg keep the Sherlock coming! your reactions to these are exact same as mine were 😂 - I was sooo disturbed by the old lady getting killed off and also thought Watson was Moriarity for a quick sec.
Andrew Scott was perfect casting for Moriarty. It’s really perfect casting all around. The next episode is my absolute favorite.
It's always nice to see people getting to these even after years, and whenever I rewatch it along with the reaction channels, it just takes me back fr
i watched this series when they apeared. i would like to say that it was hard to wait for the next season, but i used to have a preaty busy life back then. but i do remember being super excited when the new episodes where on especially in the last season. i would prefer right now to wait 2 more years for the next serie than knowing that are no more episodes to come...
And we had to wait years to know what happened 😅😅😅
TWO YEARS!!! Well, almost.But what a loooooooooooooong wait it was. Worth it tho.
“Skibbity paps” is my new favorite phrase
Absolute legend: Andrew Scott. His interpretation of Moriarty is the best thing about this series.
Can't wait for the sing-along...
I saw every episode of this, _Elementary,_ and _Miss Sherlock._
Ooof. Pride before the fall. That was a gut punch. 😋
And it just keeps getting better.
"You said Britsh Knights? Wow! You're old."
Damn 😢 I remember BKs 😂
the end of season 2 was worse with that cliffhanger to wait for s3. Since 2010 i watched all the series at least 5 times. Still my favorite series.
Great episode!.. And zoe Telford who plays Sarah 😍😍. Never saw enough of her 😔
Andrew Scott, greatest villian EVER, and just lovely, in general.
Holmes in the 19th century would not have worn a deerstalker in London, although he does in many adaptations. Sidney Paget, the illustrator did draw it in after Watson referred to Holmes as wearing a flap-eared traveling cap on a case in the country, so I consider it to be a melding of author and illustrator.
I found the performance of Moriarty v chilling and threatening. That actor [Andrew Scott] is a great part of the superb series Fleabag - that's a watch in itself…
It was never confirmed but after the argument with John about understanding the moon and the earths rotation, I theories that Sherlock researched about stars and celestial bodies because he was trying to prove a point to Watson, and that exact info became useful for this exact case. Because John cares about the little details.
Love this!! I forgot about this scene with Andrew Scott
Browncoats forever indeed!
The handmaid's tale has been like that, waiting ages between seasons. It is so good as well
The planetarium show narrator is Peter Davison, the 5th Doctor.
You guys should watch Elementary after this, the Johnny Lee Miller and Lucy Liu version. It’s very good.
Sherlock's boredom also leads to his addiction. He needs to keep his mind busy, or he becomes self-destructive :/ it's cannon in all Sherlock Holmes remakes as it's established in the books
Killer, can you get me a folding chair or something LOL 😂
When Watson showed up at the pool, my first thought was he was the guy too… up until he revealed the bomb.
..... The hat.😊
Can you even BEGIN to imagine how frustrating that ending was, and having to wait nearly TWO BLOODY YEARS to find out what happened next?!!! It was torture!
Just watching ripley so fun timing
What stops or distracts a villain?
Created by
Mark Gatiss
Steven Moffat
I think it helps to know year release of Sherlock episodes and Doctor Who series. There are some Sherlock Easter eggs that show up in Doctor Who. (At least one I know of.)
Sherlock: 2010-2017
Series 1: 2010
Series 2: 2012
Series 3: 2014
Special: 2016
Series 4: 2017
Doctor Who: (Moffat era) 2010-2017
Today we have advantage of instant access to knowledge on our phones. (Before it took longer and it cost money and time to get information.)
Moffat was a busy guy (Gatiss too, but Moffat was showrunner for one show and co-showrunner for the other, and that is a lot of work).
Mastermind?
One thing you'll learn, is that there are many Masterminds...
Sherlock always needs a challenge.
Loved joining up with you two on this,by the way, Watson's jacket is called a donkey jacket (look it up if you don't believe me)👌
Ep. 2/1 and 2/3 are 3 hours of the finest TV ever made imo 👍🇬🇧
I've always felt that this episode showed Moriarty testing. Sherlock's "sociopathy". The bomb victims are increasingly more "sympathetic" as they go on... A middle aged man, then a woman... An old woman, then a child... Then John. And from watching Sherlock's response to these victims- and especially John, Moriarty decides that Sherlock does have a heart even though he doesn't think he does. Thus, he can threaten to burn it out... Sherlock has a weakness.
I also thought they built this, up but they never finished with the second half of this- because it always seemed to me that they were going to complete the message that Moriarty was wrong. That John wasn't a weakness, because when they worked together they were stronger. And by giving in to that idea and leaving Sherlock made them weaker.
If you want to check out any other Sherlock Holmes adaptations that won't take intense commitment, the Japanese series _Miss Sherlock_ is great and contains the best adaptation of "The Sussex Vampire."
Moffat and Gatiss's adaptation takes a lot from the Rathbone-Bruce movies, but for a single movie, there is also a lot from _The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes._ Moffat was busy with _Doctor Who_ during this period as well, of course.
With Sherlock seasons, you are not getting a TV series, you are getting three movies.
Holmes (as I will continue to call the book version) shot a VR (for Victoria Regina) in the wall, although that was in later stories. There are several references to the stories in every episode. Here we also have "I'm lost without my Boswell" (said affectionately in the Canon, a reference itself to James Boswell, the biographer of Dr. Samuel Johnson -- they were turned into a Holmes-Watson duo in the fictionalized mysteries of Lilian de la Torre, by the way)/"blogger." We see here that John has taken his therapist's advice from the first episode that he start a blog. It's popular, but is it helping his mental health?
Incidentally, I think John is a little hard on Sherlock here. As a doctor, he must know the risks of becoming emotionally involved in his cases and that it can be damaging to the patient if his objectivity is compromised. If he stops to be upset, that's time he could be spending on working on the problem. "What is the point if you don't care about the people you're helping?" is a bit more ruthless if you were to really carry it out. The point is the helping. He chooses to do that. Letting them die because you have to stop and be sad about it is not the morally superior choice in my view. He and John balance each other out a bit, though.
This episode is loosely based on the Sherlock Holmes story, "The Bruce-Partington Plans," with, as usual, a few others thrown in for good measure.
You mentioned you didn’t think it was necessary to have 5 crimes to solve. The 5 crimes were counted down by the 5 pips on the phone call and 5 pips is a reference to the original Arthur Conan Doyle story The 5 Orange Pips where the pips were sent as a warning
Andrew Scott plays Moriarty, and he's an absolute gift in this role and every role. And I disagree with one thing you guys said earlier when Sherlock was being a jerk: that no one in real life would put up with that or want to work with him. I have to disagree there: history has shown that plenty of people will bend over backward to be in the orbit genius men, no matter how awful they are as people. Just look at Steve Jobs, Elon Musk and others. They're all well-documented as being assholes, yet people give them pass after pass because they're "geniuses."
Sherlock being an asshole is part of what makes the show so entertaining! That said, we do see character development over the 4 series.
That's a working man's coat, they all used to wear them in the old days.
Sherlock's attitude about the Earth revolving around the Sun or 'round and round a teddy bear' is exactly my reaction when ppl try to convince me of 'Flat Earth'. It just makes no difference to my life if the Earth is flat, or a sphere, or a cube, and it shouldn't matter to almost everyone. It's just not an important thing, especially when there are so many other things that need my time and attention.
In Britain, at the time, it didn't seem that long a wait between series. Remember, each episode is like a film, so they give you 3 films to watch over a 2 week period, and 2 years later they give another 3 films to watch etc. etc. When you put it like that, it doesn't seem as bad. As for forgetting the show after 2 years, that might just be a cultural difference, and the American attention span isn't the same
This Sherlock Holmes does have some similarities with the stealth Sherlock Holmes adaptation, _House,_ as far as Sherlock's personality.
No spoilers but the next episode is my favourite. I'd put a bet on though, that you don't feel it is too long.
Oh (plain sight) Moffat you dog!...Best is yet to come...season 2 chicanery
Anyone who has read A.C. Doyle knows what's going on BUT it's still fun to watch :D
I forgot how delightfully gay this show is. And then we had to wait two years to find out what happened. It was torture.
You worried about the hat? Did you see his haircut?
He doesn't have the hawk nose. Also a problem with Downey.
I think the comments about there only being three episodes in a year then you have to wait , and it wasn't 49 weeks of nothing to wait, it was 101 weeks of nothing. But what those comments say to me, is the difference between the UK and the USA, and your (in general) obsession with TV and getting your fix. In the UK we are used to waiting, it is the way we do it. At least up until recently, I do admit that these days, with watching so much crap from USA TV, and with our TV trying so hard to please USA audiences, and trying to sell their wares to USA TV, then yeah our younger generations are becoming just like you people, can't wait, have to have my fix now. Never mind the quality, just churn it out like it is rolling off a conveyor belt. A bit like the quality of the food in the USA? 😜
I appreciate your noting that slut shaming Sally isn't cool, and she has reasons to not like Sherlock.
- "Finale" is pronounced "fee-nah-lae", not "fi-nelly". 😂
- 5:08 For what reason would Brits (or anyone else on this planet outside the US) celebrate Thanksgiving? 😂
- 36:20 "Modern take on smoking", "smoking is one of the most disgusting things..."... You better don't talk like that here in Austria. About 25-30% of us (me included) are smokers. 😁
Oh, you Americans! 😁😉
Why is Sherlock so pretty?😅
Elementary is a Great show, you should definitely watch it
Elenentary is ok, but he's no Sherlock Holmes. In fact he's no more intelligent than Joan Watson.
Oh please. The director just told Miller "Copy Cumberbatch". Probably the worst adaptation of the SH persona there has been.
@@davebox588exactly it’s Sherlock Lite but enjoyed it
@@fayesouthall6604I'm glad you enjoyed it, but Jeremy Brett's, then Cumberbatch's Sherlocks had been so good, I gave up after the second episode.
Haha the thing about the. Coats and stuff is that everything they wear is expensive as hell. Where Watson getting that money man haha.
That's most of TV.
i enjoyed Elementary - i recommend watching it.
I stuck with it for the first two "seasons" but I had a hard time keeping interest in watching the rest of the shows and I really, really, really love Cumberbatch and Freeman, all the actors actually. I love a couple of surprise plot twists that were entirely unexpected, but fun. Hated Lucy Liu being a supporting, and not very compelling supporting, actor. IMO it would have been much better with Liu as Sherlock.
The hat ? ... spoilers
I mean, he's not the "grammer police" just trying to help him be better.
The next one is the best of the series.