If Josh Allen were the Bengals QB they would have won the Super Bowl. If Patrick Mahomes were the Bengals QB they would have won the Super Bowl. If Mathew Stafford were the Bengals QB they would have won the Super Bowl. If Justin Herbert were the Bengals QB they would have won the Super Bowl. If Kyler Murray were the Bengals QB they would have won the Super Bowl.
and matthew stafford isn't on joe burrow's level at all. He couldn't even lead that bengals Bad o-line to the playoffs. And what we saw from patrick mahomes, he crumbles under pressure.
qbs that are better 1 mahomes 2 Rodgers 3 Brady 4 josh a 5 Herbert 6 Lamar 7 deshaun 8 Matthew Stafford 9 Carr now he has his college teammate he will do.great things he will win a playoff game or 2 10 kyler Murray he's more tAlented
Josh Allen’s statline was elite. One of the best in the nfl. With 4,400 yds, 36 tds, 15 INTS, and a 92.2 passer rating. However, joe burrow had a better season in almost every regard, with 4,600 yds, 34 tds, 14 INTS, and a 108.2 passer rating. (Higher than josh Allen’s career high.) stats don’t lie.
I think Justin Herbert was better than both of them 5k yards 38 tds 15 picks and 97.7 rating. And both burrow and Herbert has good wrs and a trash o-line. I think that its close but im taking herbert over burrow stat wise
@@MASKEDMANGUITAR To keep things into perspective, Joe Burrow had 152 less pass attempts Than Herbert. While I do think Herbert is a great qb, when looking at his volume of throws, he threw the ball 672 times! U give Burrow the same amount of throws, he would most likely be regarded as a top three qb.
He's a great player, but he just doesn't have the special something. There's something that the players like Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes have, and Burrow just doesn't have it. He's probably a top 10 qb rn, but I've seen lists that put him as the number 1 or 2 qb in the league, even above Mahomes, which is just straight dog shite. So he's great, but I just don't see how he can live up to the hype.
Joe burrow lands upon 7 or 8 in my opinion but the problem lies in the fact that he has a good defense and the best supporting cast in the nfl and for those that want to talk about his oline even joe burrow himself admitted that the value of sacks and a bad offensive line is greatly over exaggerated, and can y’all please stop mentioning his acl injury like it makes him a better quarterback. Sure it’s amazing that he was able to bounce back from it the way he did but him tearing his acl doesn’t make him a better player
Zach Taylor is a way better coach than Andy Reid. Zach Taylor is a way better coach than Sean McDermott. Zach Taylor is a way better coach than Sean McVay.
@@hellowhy7359 everything I said repetitively in this thread was sarcastic in favor of Joe Burrow to show how much he elevates the Bengals. The Bengals would look like the usual Bengals without Burrow. -LSU Fan
All the teams in the nfl are the same talent level. The Bengals have the same roster talent as the Rams and the Chiefs. If Joe Burrow were the Rams QB they would not even make the playoffs. If Joe Burrow were the Chiefs QB they would not even make the playoffs. If Joe Burrow were the Bills QB they would not even make the playoffs. If Joe Burrow were the 49ers QB they would not even make the playoffs. If Joe Burrow were the Chargers QB they would not even make the playoffs.
@@warrensprinkle6104 Oh please, Josh Allen would have annihilated the Bengals, just as KC should have if it wasn't for their complete and utter late stage collapse. Joe Burrow is overrated, just wait for the Bills Bengals game this season.
Justin Herbert or Josh Allen are way better than Kurt Warner was. Becz their arms and off platform throws and not having to be elite at throwing on schedule.
Bruh you brush over his stats cuz you know they prove you wrong. His cmp pct was second only to Aaron Rodgers, his accuracy was on point, his ability to extend the play behind a garbage oline. His insane ability to break sacks, and his ability to throw on the run and under pressure. He isn’t overrated, keep hating.
I think there is a healthy balance between looking at statistics and having a good eye for the game. Sure, stats are good for Burrow. But, Burrow obviously padded his stats any chance he could get, which adds a large level of bias to the math. Try analyzing Burrow's play style. Is "that ability to extend the play" a strength as much as it appears to be? More often than not, it is Burrow trying to get the glory, make the big play, feed his ego. Nothing wrong with that, it suits some people's play style, but in reality, the inability to settle and get the job done just means he forces long plays which will hurt more than it helps. Sure it works from time to time, which is why people will love him, and hence why he is overrated. People remember the big plays more, even if they aren't the best plays. There is a reason why Tom Brady is the GOAT even if some have better statistics than he does. Brady does what he needs to win. He doesn't make the glory plays unless he can do it easily or must do so in order to win. Rather, he will take his time, work slowly and patiently, and simply win. Another example is Josh Allen. Allen is undoubtably top 3, and is known for getting out of trouble and running it. The reason Allen isn't overrated is because Allen is, again, happy to make small plays to get what he needs to win, rather than force some big glory play. Josh Allen's big run plays are more part of his skillset and gameplan, rather than him trying to force a gloryplay. His ability to escape and turn out near impossible runs is just getting the job done when it needs to be, not him trying to make some impossibly big play. If Burrow matures and moves past his cockyness, and learns to settle, he can prove us doubters wrong. However, if he can't, which I personally think will happen because of his personality, he will remain dangerous and good, but never one of the GOAT's and unable to close things out when it comes down to it.
@@quinnjackson9252 bro, you trippin if you think he’s “feeding his ego” while extending the play to not get sacked. lmfao u actually just think he should just take the sack. Plus, “padding his stats” when? I mean, it’s not his fault if he balls out. Fr, every qb stay pads to some extent. Plus, I haven’t seen many plays where he keeps it going when it’s a lost cause, when he just breaks sacks. He just tries to get the most out of a play. U actually have no idea what ur talking about. Keep hating lmao
@@MASKEDMANGUITAR I think he should look short, obviously not take the sack silly!! Either that or throw it away. Seriously, guy never throws short. Brady, on the other hand, is happy to make a gain of four yards three times in a row to get the first down, rather than repeatedly force something big. That is why Brady does not get sacked, he knows how to be the best, and even though he is capable of making the big play, he doesn't unless the defense gifts it to him or he needs to in order to win the game. Just watch any Bengals game highlights and you will see what Burrow does. He throws the ball long far more often than he should. Where the best quarterbacks would throw a short throw that gets the job done and actually makes something out of the play, Burrow hesitates, looking for something long, and when he takes too long and protection breaks down, he is forced to scurry. Sure that leads to play extensions, but often, it leads to sacks, while a short lob would made for a gain of 3 or 4 to make something out of the play. Burrow makes this work sometimes, probably more than most, but he would be more successful if he learned how to play like an excellent quarterback rather than one who thinks he is great. Also, "U actually have no idea what ur talking about." Rather than getting all grumpy and resorting to childish insults, you could choose to continue the conversation, see my point, try to get me to see yours, and have a good time. Insults do nothing but spread anger and make it a worse place for everyone. ALSO also, I'm no hater. I think Burrow is good. Just not great. Overrated and weakened by the flaws I have pointed out.
@@quinnjackson9252 bro, i cant name one time where the reason for a sack was because of him overextending the play. Show me an example and then wells start talking. Also, wdym “he takes too long and the pressure gets to him” joe has one of the quickest release times in the nfl, with 2-3 seconds almost every play. Joe reads the defense and makes an educated throw, rather than throwing it quickly straight into triple coverage. Also, STOP COMPARING HIM TO TOM BRADY, Tom Brady is the goat, joe is a second-year QB coming off a horrific injury. Btw, joe dosent throw long often, as he usuallay goes for more mid-range shots. I honestly just dont think you watch football man…
@@MASKEDMANGUITAR ua-cam.com/video/ilkYSfNAsJQ/v-deo.html Remember this home game loss to the Chargers? If Burrow had read the defense, he would have noticed how the Chargers were sending the pass rush, which wouldn't give him any time to make a big play. Instead, Mr. Big Ego Cigar Guy decides that he wants to get some glory and go long. All it would have taken is a little lob to Uzomah for a nice little gain, if not a first down then at least a few yards and a manageable 3rd down. Before you say that Uzomah wasn't a good target because he was covered, the play, had Burrow gone short and not long, had the defense fooled and completely ready for Burrow to go long and not short, giving a clear window for Burrow to hit him, which should have been easy given his lightning fast release time which you tout. However, Burrow insisted on dropping with the intention of striking deep, giving the Chargers defense the perfect opportunity to strip him and take the turnover. So much for being great at escaping the sac! Watch what Herbert does the next play, just a short little toss for a big gain. Yes I know the Chargers were 3rd and 16 and had made mistakes and didn't pick up the 1st down etc, but the point is that those simple little plays are very manageble and Burrow much prefers looking for the glory play rather than just getting the job done. ua-cam.com/video/ilkYSfNAsJQ/v-deo.html 1st and 10, no need to hurry, no need to look long. What does Burrow do? Looks for the big play. And what happens? Interception. What should he have done? Hit either Uzomah who was way more wide open than he was on the previous failure, which would have made it easily 2nd and 3 at least, or wide open Mixon in the middle there for another decent gain. And, this was against the Chargers lousy defensive line. What do you think will happen when he tries that against a decent safety tandem like Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde? Ask Mac Jones how that'll play out... ua-cam.com/video/ilkYSfNAsJQ/v-deo.html Once again forcing the issue long. Instead of realizing that the bad snap had most likely ruined the play called, Burrow forces something that didn't need to be forced. He could have, once again, laid the ball off to Uzomah, making for at least a better punting position, if not a first down possibility. ua-cam.com/video/ilkYSfNAsJQ/v-deo.html Seriously, like a broken record here. Deep drop, delay, Uzomah has room to land an airplane, but sure enough Burrow looks for the gloryshot, and where does it lead him? pummeled. ua-cam.com/video/ilkYSfNAsJQ/v-deo.html9 This one just confuses me haha! There are more examples from this game alone. He made some good long plays, some good short plays, but whenever he plays a half decent team, his ego makes him loose on some critical moments. Finally, why do you get so offended when I compare Burrow with Brady? Everyone does. There are many people and websites ranking Burrow as better than Brady. THAT is why Burrow is overrated. You argue he's not overrated, but when I compare him with Brady you say that's not fair because he isn't that good. Well, then, that makes him overrated! I can't wait to see the Bengals go against an actually difficult schedule, It will be fun to watch. That being said, I would be shocked if the Bengals don't loose at least somewhere around 8 games this season.
Tell me you are a casual without outright saying it....🤣 Joe isn't as athletically gifted as Josh or Justin. That's where it ends. He has MUCH more going on between his ears than his competition. Once he has just one more second behind a better O line? He is going to tear up the league.
He's maybe top half maybe top 10. Beating the Chiefs twice gave him all the hype to consider an elite quarterback. I think it's a shame people mention Joe Burrow as an elite quarterback already and Joe Flacco can't get any credit for his early stint in Baltimore including a super bowl, dueling with Brady.
agreed 100% he is not elite. Not a top 5 quarterback
Dead wrong burrow is better and better and he's young, if he stays healthy he will be a contender year in year out.
Burrow IS overrated. See this spot at the end of NEXT season...
*wins Super Bowl with 4 TDS in game
@@slinghshot911 W
Currently going to afc championship after dominating the bills.
Good player but was Hilariously overhyped near the end of the season and coming into the playoffs
He was good but my problem is when they say he is better than herbert
@@hellowhy7359 that's my reason man, Herbert is better than him.
@@gamersfreefood No he isn't. When ir qb airs out the ball 672 times, he's gonna have good stats.
If Josh Allen were the Bengals QB they would have won the Super Bowl.
If Patrick Mahomes were the Bengals QB they would have won the Super Bowl.
If Mathew Stafford were the Bengals QB they would have won the Super Bowl.
If Justin Herbert were the Bengals QB they would have won the Super Bowl.
If Kyler Murray were the Bengals QB they would have won the Super Bowl.
not with that bad offensive line, no, you're wrong.
and matthew stafford isn't on joe burrow's level at all. He couldn't even lead that bengals Bad o-line to the playoffs. And what we saw from patrick mahomes, he crumbles under pressure.
@Der CrysisBZ not rlly he was looking at kelce open for 2 secs but didn't throw. Not saying game is rigged butttt😬
@@dercrysisbz2049 I agree with matt Stafford and maybe Herbert. Every other qb I would say would have made them win.
And only 1 of them won the superbowl
qbs that are better 1 mahomes 2 Rodgers 3 Brady 4 josh a 5 Herbert 6 Lamar 7 deshaun 8 Matthew Stafford 9 Carr now he has his college teammate he will do.great things he will win a playoff game or 2 10 kyler Murray he's more tAlented
Burrow doesnt make the roster on at least 25 teams
So facts
@@bucksfan1945 I think ur trolling. But if ur being legit... u definitely don't have a bright future
Saying Lamar or Kyler is better than Joe Burrow might be the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Just because u run a lot dosen't mean ur good
Chase is the best player on that team. That's how I've always felt.
Josh Allen’s statline was elite. One of the best in the nfl. With 4,400 yds, 36 tds, 15 INTS, and a 92.2 passer rating.
However, joe burrow had a better season in almost every regard, with 4,600 yds, 34 tds, 14 INTS, and a 108.2 passer rating. (Higher than josh Allen’s career high.) stats don’t lie.
I think Justin Herbert was better than both of them 5k yards 38 tds 15 picks and 97.7 rating. And both burrow and Herbert has good wrs and a trash o-line. I think that its close but im taking herbert over burrow stat wise
@@falcon0886 I think joe also beats Herbert out in yards per throw and yards in the air, so that’s why he has a much higher rating
@@MASKEDMANGUITAR To keep things into perspective, Joe Burrow had 152 less pass attempts Than Herbert. While I do think Herbert is a great qb, when looking at his volume of throws, he threw the ball 672 times! U give Burrow the same amount of throws, he would most likely be regarded as a top three qb.
He's a great player, but he just doesn't have the special something. There's something that the players like Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes have, and Burrow just doesn't have it. He's probably a top 10 qb rn, but I've seen lists that put him as the number 1 or 2 qb in the league, even above Mahomes, which is just straight dog shite. So he's great, but I just don't see how he can live up to the hype.
Joe burrow lands upon 7 or 8 in my opinion but the problem lies in the fact that he has a good defense and the best supporting cast in the nfl and for those that want to talk about his oline even joe burrow himself admitted that the value of sacks and a bad offensive line is greatly over exaggerated, and can y’all please stop mentioning his acl injury like it makes him a better quarterback. Sure it’s amazing that he was able to bounce back from it the way he did but him tearing his acl doesn’t make him a better player
Zach Taylor is a way better coach than Andy Reid.
Zach Taylor is a way better coach than Sean McDermott.
Zach Taylor is a way better coach than Sean McVay.
Couldn’t disagree more all 3 of the coaches are better than zac Taylor
@@hellowhy7359 everything I said repetitively in this thread was sarcastic in favor of Joe Burrow to show how much he elevates the Bengals.
The Bengals would look like the usual Bengals without Burrow.
-LSU Fan
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All the teams in the nfl are the same talent level. The Bengals have the same roster talent as the Rams and the Chiefs.
If Joe Burrow were the Rams QB they would not even make the playoffs.
If Joe Burrow were the Chiefs QB they would not even make the playoffs.
If Joe Burrow were the Bills QB they would not even make the playoffs.
If Joe Burrow were the 49ers QB they would not even make the playoffs.
If Joe Burrow were the Chargers QB they would not even make the playoffs.
What Super Bowl did Josh Allen and Herbert take their teams to?
How does that work bc bengals went to the playoffs with burrow ant they're "the same talent level"... Something doesn't add up here.
@@warrensprinkle6104 Oh please, Josh Allen would have annihilated the Bengals, just as KC should have if it wasn't for their complete and utter late stage collapse. Joe Burrow is overrated, just wait for the Bills Bengals game this season.
Justin Herbert or Josh Allen are way better than Kurt Warner was. Becz their arms and off platform throws and not having to be elite at throwing on schedule.
remember, Kurt was what, 32 when he played his first game.
@@theEWDSDS I was being sarcastic on just about all those comments.
Yeah I mean being sacked 51 times in a regular season is normal…. Seeing the stats that kid put out with no o line. Scary. Not overrated.
Stop it.. that team is loaded
He doesnt even make the ROSTER on like 25 teams. Fact.
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Bruh you brush over his stats cuz you know they prove you wrong. His cmp pct was second only to Aaron Rodgers, his accuracy was on point, his ability to extend the play behind a garbage oline. His insane ability to break sacks, and his ability to throw on the run and under pressure. He isn’t overrated, keep hating.
I think there is a healthy balance between looking at statistics and having a good eye for the game. Sure, stats are good for Burrow. But, Burrow obviously padded his stats any chance he could get, which adds a large level of bias to the math. Try analyzing Burrow's play style. Is "that ability to extend the play" a strength as much as it appears to be? More often than not, it is Burrow trying to get the glory, make the big play, feed his ego. Nothing wrong with that, it suits some people's play style, but in reality, the inability to settle and get the job done just means he forces long plays which will hurt more than it helps. Sure it works from time to time, which is why people will love him, and hence why he is overrated. People remember the big plays more, even if they aren't the best plays. There is a reason why Tom Brady is the GOAT even if some have better statistics than he does. Brady does what he needs to win. He doesn't make the glory plays unless he can do it easily or must do so in order to win. Rather, he will take his time, work slowly and patiently, and simply win. Another example is Josh Allen. Allen is undoubtably top 3, and is known for getting out of trouble and running it. The reason Allen isn't overrated is because Allen is, again, happy to make small plays to get what he needs to win, rather than force some big glory play. Josh Allen's big run plays are more part of his skillset and gameplan, rather than him trying to force a gloryplay. His ability to escape and turn out near impossible runs is just getting the job done when it needs to be, not him trying to make some impossibly big play. If Burrow matures and moves past his cockyness, and learns to settle, he can prove us doubters wrong. However, if he can't, which I personally think will happen because of his personality, he will remain dangerous and good, but never one of the GOAT's and unable to close things out when it comes down to it.
@@quinnjackson9252 bro, you trippin if you think he’s “feeding his ego” while extending the play to not get sacked. lmfao u actually just think he should just take the sack. Plus, “padding his stats” when? I mean, it’s not his fault if he balls out. Fr, every qb stay pads to some extent. Plus, I haven’t seen many plays where he keeps it going when it’s a lost cause, when he just breaks sacks. He just tries to get the most out of a play. U actually have no idea what ur talking about. Keep hating lmao
@@MASKEDMANGUITAR I think he should look short, obviously not take the sack silly!! Either that or throw it away. Seriously, guy never throws short. Brady, on the other hand, is happy to make a gain of four yards three times in a row to get the first down, rather than repeatedly force something big. That is why Brady does not get sacked, he knows how to be the best, and even though he is capable of making the big play, he doesn't unless the defense gifts it to him or he needs to in order to win the game. Just watch any Bengals game highlights and you will see what Burrow does. He throws the ball long far more often than he should. Where the best quarterbacks would throw a short throw that gets the job done and actually makes something out of the play, Burrow hesitates, looking for something long, and when he takes too long and protection breaks down, he is forced to scurry. Sure that leads to play extensions, but often, it leads to sacks, while a short lob would made for a gain of 3 or 4 to make something out of the play. Burrow makes this work sometimes, probably more than most, but he would be more successful if he learned how to play like an excellent quarterback rather than one who thinks he is great.
Also, "U actually have no idea what ur talking about." Rather than getting all grumpy and resorting to childish insults, you could choose to continue the conversation, see my point, try to get me to see yours, and have a good time. Insults do nothing but spread anger and make it a worse place for everyone.
ALSO also, I'm no hater. I think Burrow is good. Just not great. Overrated and weakened by the flaws I have pointed out.
@@quinnjackson9252 bro, i cant name one time where the reason for a sack was because of him overextending the play. Show me an example and then wells start talking. Also, wdym “he takes too long and the pressure gets to him” joe has one of the quickest release times in the nfl, with 2-3 seconds almost every play. Joe reads the defense and makes an educated throw, rather than throwing it quickly straight into triple coverage. Also, STOP COMPARING HIM TO TOM BRADY, Tom Brady is the goat, joe is a second-year QB coming off a horrific injury. Btw, joe dosent throw long often, as he usuallay goes for more mid-range shots. I honestly just dont think you watch football man…
@@MASKEDMANGUITAR ua-cam.com/video/ilkYSfNAsJQ/v-deo.html
Remember this home game loss to the Chargers? If Burrow had read the defense, he would have noticed how the Chargers were sending the pass rush, which wouldn't give him any time to make a big play. Instead, Mr. Big Ego Cigar Guy decides that he wants to get some glory and go long. All it would have taken is a little lob to Uzomah for a nice little gain, if not a first down then at least a few yards and a manageable 3rd down. Before you say that Uzomah wasn't a good target because he was covered, the play, had Burrow gone short and not long, had the defense fooled and completely ready for Burrow to go long and not short, giving a clear window for Burrow to hit him, which should have been easy given his lightning fast release time which you tout. However, Burrow insisted on dropping with the intention of striking deep, giving the Chargers defense the perfect opportunity to strip him and take the turnover. So much for being great at escaping the sac! Watch what Herbert does the next play, just a short little toss for a big gain. Yes I know the Chargers were 3rd and 16 and had made mistakes and didn't pick up the 1st down etc, but the point is that those simple little plays are very manageble and Burrow much prefers looking for the glory play rather than just getting the job done.
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1st and 10, no need to hurry, no need to look long. What does Burrow do? Looks for the big play. And what happens? Interception. What should he have done? Hit either Uzomah who was way more wide open than he was on the previous failure, which would have made it easily 2nd and 3 at least, or wide open Mixon in the middle there for another decent gain. And, this was against the Chargers lousy defensive line. What do you think will happen when he tries that against a decent safety tandem like Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde? Ask Mac Jones how that'll play out...
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Once again forcing the issue long. Instead of realizing that the bad snap had most likely ruined the play called, Burrow forces something that didn't need to be forced. He could have, once again, laid the ball off to Uzomah, making for at least a better punting position, if not a first down possibility.
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Seriously, like a broken record here. Deep drop, delay, Uzomah has room to land an airplane, but sure enough Burrow looks for the gloryshot, and where does it lead him? pummeled.
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This one just confuses me haha!
There are more examples from this game alone. He made some good long plays, some good short plays, but whenever he plays a half decent team, his ego makes him loose on some critical moments.
Finally, why do you get so offended when I compare Burrow with Brady? Everyone does. There are many people and websites ranking Burrow as better than Brady. THAT is why Burrow is overrated. You argue he's not overrated, but when I compare him with Brady you say that's not fair because he isn't that good. Well, then, that makes him overrated! I can't wait to see the Bengals go against an actually difficult schedule, It will be fun to watch. That being said, I would be shocked if the Bengals don't loose at least somewhere around 8 games this season.
Tell me you are a casual without outright saying it....🤣 Joe isn't as athletically gifted as Josh or Justin. That's where it ends. He has MUCH more going on between his ears than his competition. Once he has just one more second behind a better O line? He is going to tear up the league.
All Justin Herbert needs is a defence
Still doesn't take away he overhyped in media
burrow just choked away a super bowl
@@Yeomannn Well, having one second in the pocket dosen't help. I literally don't know how anyone would be able to do anything in that situation
He is he only threw 5 tds mahomes threw 9 In 2 less games mahomes was going on to have best QB playoffs ever he's a fraud
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Wow, he played competent pass defenses and because of that he couldn’t make big plays every game? * shocked gasp *
But he didn't, so why say stupid shit?
Whatever Askol is taking or smoking he should quit and find something real to talk about.
He's maybe top half maybe top 10. Beating the Chiefs twice gave him all the hype to consider an elite quarterback. I think it's a shame people mention Joe Burrow as an elite quarterback already and Joe Flacco can't get any credit for his early stint in Baltimore including a super bowl, dueling with Brady.
Even if Joe Burrow gets good OLine play his numbers will go down.