Original video without our commentary: ua-cam.com/video/Ej-Oxf4_hPU/v-deo.html Sensei Seth: ua-cam.com/channels/XYOXWWqgtSrk27402V_JMw.html Shintaro: ua-cam.com/users/Shigashi84 Cohost Lubo: ua-cam.com/channels/Ly-srKibDrkJ8YgH2sENFw.html Seth, Higashi, and Glick: ua-cam.com/video/s4Mr8U02hP8/v-deo.html
it's very interesting (and impressive) to me that Shintaro is sticking to no gi approaches here despite the presence of a gi. He first nails a drop seoi nage which works well no gi but you don't see it in MMA very often, and eventually pulls off a crazy sutemi without gi grips which is difficult since you're hanging your body weight off the opponent, looks like it might have been a yoko guruma. Very nice. Edit: The front kick seems to be mei geri, and also, great little ashi barais from the judoka
Yes the Samurai used striking but they also, very importantly, grappled. If you're just using karate then you're not able to fight entirely. Just in one area and even then, only partly
fight commentary breakdowns so yeah i have decided to learn sanda,kyokushin karate,taekwondo itf,muay thai,krav maga and i might possibly add jkd to my arsenal
@@diobrando2160 look im 21 and martial arts have no age limit and i want to be a martial artist who knows these 5 or 6 fighting styles which are the best of all time
@@umarmars47 Doubt that very much. If you watch the video the commentary points out Shintaro isn't wearing a mouthpiece. This was more of an exhibition/messing around.
@@JRF1004 yeah but will your opponent in a competition care about whether you fall properly or not? I'd rather take the precaution and not end up with any damage.
Unrelated to this video specifically, but since you do a lot of fight breakdowns, I'd be curious about a video on the following. While there is a lot of bullshido in the whole "too deadly to use" genre of fight techniques, it is not all bullshido. Eyepokes, neckbreaks, groin kicks, etc. MMA and sport fighters do not train for that kind of stuff at all. Plus BJJ is probably the dumbest thing to use in a street fight because the last place you want to be on the street is on the ground as it is too risky to just get gang banged, which to be fair is a risk in any street fight, but it's a big problem on the ground versus standing up. So what is your opinion on sport fighting like boxing, MMA, etc and what they train for versus stuff you would see in traditional martial arts that are too deadly for the street like eye pokes, etc that you train for for traditional martial arts but can never actually use for obvious reasons? ANd perhaps the mentality of training for pro sports competition versus self defense only? Does that make sense? Just curious to see a fight breakdown video discussing that.
Hey bro, since no one bothered replying I'll do my best. 1. No one said the illegal shots don't work. It's that in order to land them, you need to be very lucky, or you need to have a grasp of sparring/resistance to even get close to applying it. Plus, if an opponent knows youre willing to cross that line, so can they. It's best to include these illegal as a supplement on top of alrrady existing conventional fight skills. 2.Think legal aspects of "self defense" too. A takedown to pin will get you in less legal trouble than blinding someone or mortally wounding them. Self Defense =/= death brawls. 3. It's not like bjj dudes pull guard in moments of danger. When not in BJJ range people have space to pull back/run/keep moving out of range. But when someone closes that distace and gets you on the ground to beat you up, very few martial arts give you the skills to sweep. Dont let bjj matches fool you, they stay on the ground because they're looking for submissions. Watch MMA on how fast a BJJ dude can get it back standing if he doesn't wanna stay. 4. Even TMAs with eye pokes don't sell it that way. Wing Chun has always had eyepokes but people babble about it only after their practitioners get their ass whooped. 5. Most, not all, TMAs work when the techniques are tested and sparred. I just wanna put that out there, I'm not an MMA apologist 6. The basic thing is, humans get better at doing things they can do consistently. You'll find it difficult consistently train eyepokes and groin kicks full force. And now, you have to allocate the time for those extra stuff + your basic fighting competencies. On the other hand, if you stick to practical, practicable moves , You can grapple full force and you can strike at 50-80% intensity. 7. As an analogy, MMA fighting comprises 60-75% of what unarmed fighting is. The tools and safety reauirements take away from it. I also wish headbutts were more legal becaude they dramatically shift things. Those factors + llegal shots i would say take 25%. So would someone be an expert at 25% and have holes in the remaining aspects of fighting, or be 75% competent and lack some hyperspecialized skills but be competent at distsnce management, timing, grappling, endursce, cardio, etc?? 8. A flaw in my argument is that even though it's 25% a good groinkick, or eyepoke, or headbutt ends a fight you win. I acknowledge that. 9. But on that regards, if that by any chance that doesn't instantly end the fight, and your trained and superiorly skilled opponent is mentally prepared for your dirty tricks, you're in for a beating 10. Fighting is just fighting. MMA isn't originlly a style. It's a ruleset and a sport. Of course as the sport develops styles end up beig distinctively "mma". But that says more about how free it is than how restrictive it is. If you only have some basic rules and you have this cage, why do people end up fighting the way they do? So similarly to each other 11. I believe that it's because MMA isn't a style, the MMA style is just a show of what the human potential is. Most if not all MMA moves can be recreated and trained with medium to high intensity while still maintaing a level of safety. 12 . And even with all that there are many things MMA doesn't cover in self-defense. Mma covers a miniscule part of self defense, which is physical confrontation. Self defense includes weapon use, deescalation, asking for help, complying, calling the police, etc. 13. And yet, if a situation did turn violent with no negotiable way out, My money is on an MMA guy 14. You want it to work ? systemize a way to land eyepokes and groin shots, find a way to hard spar them safely against resisting opponents. And finally, study first the basic essences of what fighting consists of: distacr management, mental fortitude, physicsl toughness, and getting used to grtting it Sorry for the essay brother, much love
Seth irritates me, he says eye pokes aren't effective because the word poke reminds him of tickling. MMA fighters have been permanently blinded by them. Plenty of videos of them being used in fights too btw
And it irritates me because it's important, if you know how to fight and apply some of these (often illegal) techniques they could absolutely save lives. Example: someone's resisting your triangle choke, your in great physical danger. (Properly) Poking his eyes a few times, in between strikes, is very distracting and could allow you to finish your submission
Your channel is fun and Id love to see you expand. Doing collabs with other YT's is a great step. Two other channels who have quality content and who want to grow their bases are Jeff Chan and Icy Mike. They both have fight footage that you could breakdown and theyre both guys who want to build their channels.
Hey FCB, it is nice to see your breakdown on Sensei Seth’s and Shigashi’s/Shintaro’s sparring. On a side note, I got a video on a retro Okinawan Karate kumite championship. The footage is between two practitioners of Uechi Ryu, a style praised by Sensei Seth and Jesse in their video ranking different Karate styles by grades/tiers: m.ua-cam.com/video/ciek8LmaI5Q/v-deo.html
With light sparring it's courteous not to hit your partner in the face too hard or at all (notice how they pull their punches to the face). In addition when there is a weight discrepancy as there is here it is common for the bigger person to hold back more as it is easier for them to inadvertently injure a smaller person.
If only I was as big and buff as these guys, I'd really be able to do well in sparring, without fear...in sparring, I feel like I'm always limited by my thinner physicality...
You might be hindered, but not limited. A high level competitor would be limited. If you want to get bigger and/or stronger then do so. Might hard for you if you’re a hardgainer, but at the end of the day your weight, muscle mass and strength are things you can change about yourself.
Original video without our commentary: ua-cam.com/video/Ej-Oxf4_hPU/v-deo.html
Sensei Seth: ua-cam.com/channels/XYOXWWqgtSrk27402V_JMw.html
Shintaro: ua-cam.com/users/Shigashi84
Cohost Lubo: ua-cam.com/channels/Ly-srKibDrkJ8YgH2sENFw.html
Seth, Higashi, and Glick: ua-cam.com/video/s4Mr8U02hP8/v-deo.html
Oh hey, I know those guys
HEY!! Sensei SETH!!!!!
@@FightCommentary interview seth
@@skycow3208 On it!
@@FightCommentary cool 😎
Have enough MMA fighters been permanently blinded for you to realise eye pokes are nothing like tickling....
As a Judoka I love Shintaro's videos and channel. Grabbing the belt is legal in Judo. Great video!.
I don't do judo or karate but I love watching both of these channels.
i have been itching to spar for over a year
1:40 That's Waki-Gatame to a SumiGaeshi. Great combination. Grabbing the belt is legal in Judo. Judoka don't usually wear mouth guards.
Thanks for the info!
it's very interesting (and impressive) to me that Shintaro is sticking to no gi approaches here despite the presence of a gi. He first nails a drop seoi nage which works well no gi but you don't see it in MMA very often, and eventually pulls off a crazy sutemi without gi grips which is difficult since you're hanging your body weight off the opponent, looks like it might have been a yoko guruma. Very nice.
Edit: The front kick seems to be mei geri, and also, great little ashi barais from the judoka
Bro, I cannot wait to interview you one day. I feel like you would have some of the best stories from all your training~
7:40 it depends on the set of rules. If you are among the cool kids, you do Kodokan judo where it's totally fine.
What are the others?
@@junichiroyamashita Most obvious would be the randori "rules"...
@@junichiroyamashita kodokan judo and kosen judo are the only ones I know
Yes the Samurai used striking but they also, very importantly, grappled. If you're just using karate then you're not able to fight entirely. Just in one area and even then, only partly
Karate has throws too, not as vast as judo
Good point Stephan, I agree
Great stuff guy!
fight commentary breakdowns so yeah i have decided to learn sanda,kyokushin karate,taekwondo itf,muay thai,krav maga and i might possibly add jkd to my arsenal
Cool! Keep us posted!
i will and theses martial arts are the best of all time good,better and more effective in self defence and street fighting
Why Krav Maga?
also You do not want to be a jack of all trades, master of none.
@@diobrando2160 look im 21 and martial arts have no age limit and i want to be a martial artist who knows these 5 or 6 fighting styles which are the best of all time
You just watched a video of a karateka getting thrashed by a smaller judoka and you still decide to not learn any pure grappling?
Sensei Seth was looking more like he wasn't even really trying. I get it was just sparring but he was being too slow.
Probably just cautious.
@@redrenegade7724 most definitely being cautious.
Because the judo guy's is too easy perhaps.
@@umarmars47 Doubt that very much. If you watch the video the commentary points out Shintaro isn't wearing a mouthpiece. This was more of an exhibition/messing around.
Why would you wear mouthpieces in Judo? There are no punches or any way to damage the face 🤔
Getting thrown on your face? Accidentally eating an arm or knee etc.? Happens all the time in grappling.
@@FightCommentary with Judo throws it’s very hard to fall on your face unless they throw you full force before teaching you how to fall
Maybe if you don't break fall properly the shock could cause you to bite down on your teeth hard and damage them
@@xenadon no teacher will ever throw you if you don’t know how to fall properly, it makes no sense to have a mouthpiece.
@@JRF1004 yeah but will your opponent in a competition care about whether you fall properly or not? I'd rather take the precaution and not end up with any damage.
Unrelated to this video specifically, but since you do a lot of fight breakdowns, I'd be curious about a video on the following.
While there is a lot of bullshido in the whole "too deadly to use" genre of fight techniques, it is not all bullshido. Eyepokes, neckbreaks, groin kicks, etc. MMA and sport fighters do not train for that kind of stuff at all. Plus BJJ is probably the dumbest thing to use in a street fight because the last place you want to be on the street is on the ground as it is too risky to just get gang banged, which to be fair is a risk in any street fight, but it's a big problem on the ground versus standing up.
So what is your opinion on sport fighting like boxing, MMA, etc and what they train for versus stuff you would see in traditional martial arts that are too deadly for the street like eye pokes, etc that you train for for traditional martial arts but can never actually use for obvious reasons?
ANd perhaps the mentality of training for pro sports competition versus self defense only?
Does that make sense?
Just curious to see a fight breakdown video discussing that.
Hey bro, since no one bothered replying I'll do my best.
1. No one said the illegal shots don't work. It's that in order to land them, you need to be very lucky, or you need to have a grasp of sparring/resistance to even get close to applying it. Plus, if an opponent knows youre willing to cross that line, so can they. It's best to include these illegal as a supplement on top of alrrady existing conventional fight skills.
2.Think legal aspects of "self defense" too. A takedown to pin will get you in less legal trouble than blinding someone or mortally wounding them. Self Defense =/= death brawls.
3. It's not like bjj dudes pull guard in moments of danger. When not in BJJ range people have space to pull back/run/keep moving out of range. But when someone closes that distace and gets you on the ground to beat you up, very few martial arts give you the skills to sweep. Dont let bjj matches fool you, they stay on the ground because they're looking for submissions. Watch MMA on how fast a BJJ dude can get it back standing if he doesn't wanna stay.
4. Even TMAs with eye pokes don't sell it that way. Wing Chun has always had eyepokes but people babble about it only after their practitioners get their ass whooped.
5. Most, not all, TMAs work when the techniques are tested and sparred. I just wanna put that out there, I'm not an MMA apologist
6. The basic thing is, humans get better at doing things they can do consistently. You'll find it difficult consistently train eyepokes and groin kicks full force. And now, you have to allocate the time for those extra stuff + your basic fighting competencies. On the other hand, if you stick to practical, practicable moves , You can grapple full force and you can strike at 50-80% intensity.
7. As an analogy, MMA fighting comprises 60-75% of what unarmed fighting is. The tools and safety reauirements take away from it. I also wish headbutts were more legal becaude they dramatically shift things. Those factors + llegal shots i would say take 25%. So would someone be an expert at 25% and have holes in the remaining aspects of fighting, or be 75% competent and lack some hyperspecialized skills but be competent at distsnce management, timing, grappling, endursce, cardio, etc??
8. A flaw in my argument is that even though it's 25% a good groinkick, or eyepoke, or headbutt ends a fight you win. I acknowledge that.
9. But on that regards, if that by any chance that doesn't instantly end the fight, and your trained and superiorly skilled opponent is mentally prepared for your dirty tricks, you're in for a beating
10. Fighting is just fighting. MMA isn't originlly a style. It's a ruleset and a sport. Of course as the sport develops styles end up beig distinctively "mma". But that says more about how free it is than how restrictive it is. If you only have some basic rules and you have this cage, why do people end up fighting the way they do? So similarly to each other
11. I believe that it's because MMA isn't a style, the MMA style is just a show of what the human potential is. Most if not all MMA moves can be recreated and trained with medium to high intensity while still maintaing a level of safety.
12 . And even with all that there are many things MMA doesn't cover in self-defense. Mma covers a miniscule part of self defense, which is physical confrontation. Self defense includes weapon use, deescalation, asking for help, complying, calling the police, etc.
13. And yet, if a situation did turn violent with no negotiable way out, My money is on an MMA guy
14. You want it to work ? systemize a way to land eyepokes and groin shots, find a way to hard spar them safely against resisting opponents. And finally, study first the basic essences of what fighting consists of: distacr management, mental fortitude, physicsl toughness, and getting used to grtting it
Sorry for the essay brother, much love
Seth irritates me, he says eye pokes aren't effective because the word poke reminds him of tickling. MMA fighters have been permanently blinded by them. Plenty of videos of them being used in fights too btw
And it irritates me because it's important, if you know how to fight and apply some of these (often illegal) techniques they could absolutely save lives. Example: someone's resisting your triangle choke, your in great physical danger. (Properly) Poking his eyes a few times, in between strikes, is very distracting and could allow you to finish your submission
Your channel is fun and Id love to see you expand. Doing collabs with other YT's is a great step. Two other channels who have quality content and who want to grow their bases are Jeff Chan and Icy Mike. They both have fight footage that you could breakdown and theyre both guys who want to build their channels.
We've collaborated with Icy Mike many times. I'll have to let Jeff Chan know. He's awesome! Good recommendation!
@@FightCommentary now i have to look up those collabs. I follow both of your channels but i missed them when they happened. Peace!
Hey FCB, it is nice to see your breakdown on Sensei Seth’s and Shigashi’s/Shintaro’s sparring. On a side note, I got a video on a retro Okinawan Karate kumite championship. The footage is between two practitioners of Uechi Ryu, a style praised by Sensei Seth and Jesse in their video ranking different Karate styles by grades/tiers:
m.ua-cam.com/video/ciek8LmaI5Q/v-deo.html
a good sparring would be if you have blows to the face, to improve the response and remove the fear of being hit.
With light sparring it's courteous not to hit your partner in the face too hard or at all (notice how they pull their punches to the face). In addition when there is a weight discrepancy as there is here it is common for the bigger person to hold back more as it is easier for them to inadvertently injure a smaller person.
Why hasn’t the Judoka have a GI on? That’s a bit suspect and not very fair.
We started off just sparring striking, then later decided to let him also do throws
Bison: look him up.
@@SenseiSeth Would you have grabbed his gi, if he wore one, anyway?
@@diobrando2160 no way lol I didn’t want him close to me
it would have been unfair to Shintaro, not to Seth. At any rate, didn't slow him down at all, he used no gi versions of techniques.
If only I was as big and buff as these guys, I'd really be able to do well in sparring, without fear...in sparring, I feel like I'm always limited by my thinner physicality...
You might be hindered, but not limited. A high level competitor would be limited.
If you want to get bigger and/or stronger then do so. Might hard for you if you’re a hardgainer, but at the end of the day your weight, muscle mass and strength are things you can change about yourself.
Womp womp