I just started to watch every single Terminator movie again and discovered your commentary...and i loved it! My first Terminator movie was T2. I watched T2 when my dad had a "copy" back in 1993 on VHS....I was 10 years old. I came home from school one day and found the cassette in my parents closet with T2 and Cliffhanger on it. At that time I had about 3 hours before my parents came home from work and i secretly watched thoses two movies....and it changed my life! After that, I discovered Alien, Blade Runner, Alien 3 and Evil Dead...and this experience changed my life! Movies are the best entertainment experience we have and finding new films never gets old. I love movies and I love the movies from Ridley Scott/Stanley Kubrick/ James Cameron/ David FIncher and many more! And yes, i love Alien 3 :) Thank you very much for this entertaining commentary! Cant wait to watch T2 with you guys :D ...and sorry for my bad english..... Thank you all! Greetings from Germany
Glad you guys are doing The Terminator, one of my favourites. I'm only 20mins in and I'll get through it. In regards to the time line, Terminator 2 is set in 1995. John Connor tells The Terminator that his father hadn't even been born yet. If Reese was sent back in 2029 (can't remember if that was the date he said), there's no reason why he couldn't be in his 20s or even 30s. The war started in 1997. He also could have started fighting as a teenager.
You are right. It's 1995. When the T-1000 accesses the LAPD computer in the squad car at the film's beginning it says John's birthday was 2/28/1985, and he is now 10 years old.
@@ravensfilm That is correct. It ties in with T1 perfectly, in the original Reese and the Terminator go back to the 12th May 1984. 9 months later John was born. I agree that Eddie Furlong acts and looks older than 10, I think he was 11 or 12 during filming. They had to dub his voice as it was breaking during filming! I personally don't count anything after T2 as cannon, so I don't care what they said or done after that lol. I've a bit of an issue with them changing that every T800 looks like Arnie though because I don't think that was originally intended in T1, however you can get away with it for the purposes of T2. Any real discrepancies in the narrative can be put down to the fact Reese is telling the history of the war through 2nd hand accounts aside from what he experienced personally, keep in mind the records were destroyed during the war and he grew up after it. So anything he learned was orally through other older people who survived or were fighting (I know this growing up in Belfast in Ireland, being born in 1981 😂). This could have been lost in translation. The Terminators narrative in T2 may be more accurate as he is a machine programmed by Skynet who would have knew exactly everything that happened being the militay computer that controlled it all.
Great commentary, guys. This was a lot of fun to sit thru. Little trivia for Steve: the voice on the message that was left for Sarah Connor was actually James Cameron himself. It's amazing how for a sci-fi film, this was more of a slasher horror film that I never picked up on until years later.
Great commentary guys!! This movie never gets old. I recently just completed the video game TERMINATOR RESISTANCE and it directly ties in the dream sequences with the terminator wiping out the underground resistance base. You can actually play our what lead up to that attack and the aftermath for all them hardcore terminator fans out there. I highly recommend that game. 1984 was a great year in cinema and I feel that much more special it was my birth year as well😃......Oh and Steve dont forget Day of the dead was George Romero's masterpiece and the best movie in the series 😉
The fact that Day/Dead is even coming up leads me to believe that you are a long-time fan, and that's way more important to me than your completely wrong assessment of that film. Haha. Thanks, brother!
There's also a deleted scene where Sarah looks up cyberdyne systems in the phonebook and convinces Kyle to make the bombs to blow up cyberdyne before it creates Skynet which is what the pipe bombs were for.
In defense of time travel and some very common misunderstandings of Terminator concept which became too distracting by min 17 of this commentary track - EVERYTHING fits in this very well, tightly written film, as opposed to all other Terminator soft reboots, spin offs and pseudo sequels starting with T2. The Terminator is the only film of the franchise that works. Not to mention its tragic, poetic beauty. On top of that, of all the SF films out there, this one is among very few that can actually find some support in theories of physicists - The Novikov Self-consistency principle, in particular. Long story short - the events of this film exist simultaneously, in a nonlinear causality. Events always play out in an exact same way, and future can't be changed, humans always win, but war is inevitable - no matter how oblivious of that fact both Kyle and Skynet were. T2 CAN NOT fit into this timeline and is NOT a continuation of the story, nor does it even follow the same principles set up by the original (or even the main plot points). T2 was conceived as a commercial product and that is what it delivered.
I just started to watch every single Terminator movie again and discovered your commentary...and i loved it!
My first Terminator movie was T2.
I watched T2 when my dad had a "copy" back in 1993 on VHS....I was 10 years old.
I came home from school one day and found the cassette in my parents closet with T2 and Cliffhanger on it. At that time I had about 3 hours before my parents came home from work and i secretly watched thoses two movies....and it changed my life! After that, I discovered Alien, Blade Runner, Alien 3 and Evil Dead...and this experience changed my life! Movies are the best entertainment experience we have and finding new films never gets old.
I love movies and I love the movies from Ridley Scott/Stanley Kubrick/ James Cameron/ David FIncher and many more!
And yes, i love Alien 3 :)
Thank you very much for this entertaining commentary! Cant wait to watch T2 with you guys :D
...and sorry for my bad english.....
Thank you all!
Greetings from Germany
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Glad you guys are doing The Terminator, one of my favourites. I'm only 20mins in and I'll get through it.
In regards to the time line, Terminator 2 is set in 1995. John Connor tells The Terminator that his father hadn't even been born yet. If Reese was sent back in 2029 (can't remember if that was the date he said), there's no reason why he couldn't be in his 20s or even 30s. The war started in 1997. He also could have started fighting as a teenager.
You are right. It's 1995. When the T-1000 accesses the LAPD computer in the squad car at the film's beginning it says John's birthday was 2/28/1985, and he is now 10 years old.
@@ravensfilm That is correct. It ties in with T1 perfectly, in the original Reese and the Terminator go back to the 12th May 1984. 9 months later John was born. I agree that Eddie Furlong acts and looks older than 10, I think he was 11 or 12 during filming. They had to dub his voice as it was breaking during filming! I personally don't count anything after T2 as cannon, so I don't care what they said or done after that lol. I've a bit of an issue with them changing that every T800 looks like Arnie though because I don't think that was originally intended in T1, however you can get away with it for the purposes of T2. Any real discrepancies in the narrative can be put down to the fact Reese is telling the history of the war through 2nd hand accounts aside from what he experienced personally, keep in mind the records were destroyed during the war and he grew up after it. So anything he learned was orally through other older people who survived or were fighting (I know this growing up in Belfast in Ireland, being born in 1981 😂). This could have been lost in translation. The Terminators narrative in T2 may be more accurate as he is a machine programmed by Skynet who would have knew exactly everything that happened being the militay computer that controlled it all.
Great commentary, guys. This was a lot of fun to sit thru. Little trivia for Steve: the voice on the message that was left for Sarah Connor was actually James Cameron himself. It's amazing how for a sci-fi film, this was more of a slasher horror film that I never picked up on until years later.
Sarah wasn't dreaming about the future, it was a flashback (or forward! 😁), Reese was telling her.
Great commentary guys!! This movie never gets old. I recently just completed the video game TERMINATOR RESISTANCE and it directly ties in the dream sequences with the terminator wiping out the underground resistance base. You can actually play our what lead up to that attack and the aftermath for all them hardcore terminator fans out there. I highly recommend that game. 1984 was a great year in cinema and I feel that much more special it was my birth year as well😃......Oh and Steve dont forget Day of the dead was George Romero's masterpiece and the best movie in the series 😉
The fact that Day/Dead is even coming up leads me to believe that you are a long-time fan, and that's way more important to me than your completely wrong assessment of that film. Haha. Thanks, brother!
Thank you guys for this Commentary this is my Favorite of the Franchise I know people say T2 is the best but the Original started it all
Why I don't trust machines. They could be a cybernetic Michael Myers.
There's also a deleted scene where Sarah looks up cyberdyne systems in the phonebook and convinces Kyle to make the bombs to blow up cyberdyne before it creates Skynet which is what the pipe bombs were for.
Is there a 4K version out ?
The current Blu-ray was from a 4K master, but there are no plans announced to release it on the Ultra HD format yet.
Bihen didn't have a mustache in Clockstoppers. (2002)
Thanks for the note! Just odd that Michael constantly chose to have a mustache whenever he was playing a bad guy for a number of years.
Clockstoppers wow blast from the past!
In defense of time travel and some very common misunderstandings of Terminator concept which became too distracting by min 17 of this commentary track - EVERYTHING fits in this very well, tightly written film, as opposed to all other Terminator soft reboots, spin offs and pseudo sequels starting with T2. The Terminator is the only film of the franchise that works. Not to mention its tragic, poetic beauty. On top of that, of all the SF films out there, this one is among very few that can actually find some support in theories of physicists - The Novikov Self-consistency principle, in particular. Long story short - the events of this film exist simultaneously, in a nonlinear causality. Events always play out in an exact same way, and future can't be changed, humans always win, but war is inevitable - no matter how oblivious of that fact both Kyle and Skynet were. T2 CAN NOT fit into this timeline and is NOT a continuation of the story, nor does it even follow the same principles set up by the original (or even the main plot points). T2 was conceived as a commercial product and that is what it delivered.