I agree with the Votann player, 1. without two tokens on the target, the army shoots like slower Imperial Guard. And 2. I always want to play units of 6 pioneer bikes because of their shooting profiles, but then the unit is too ungainly to do its main job (secondary shenanigans). I love the theming and models but I've shelved mine until we get the second half of our model range and codex.
Votann really need hearthguard. It’s the most killy thing in the army. They deepstrike which eliminates the issue of movement. 10 hearthguard with volkite and grenade launchers just drop so many hits it’s ridiculous. Put a E champ with them for the mortals on charge and they are even scarier. You put out 30 volk shots with dev wounds and 10d6 blast shots all getting sustained on 5’s. For 1 cp when shooting a judged target.
Going first still more often dictates the game. Often times player two is playing a reactive game which usually gives player 1 the advantage of extra activity.
The paint job on the ultramarines is very nice.
I agree with the Votann player, 1. without two tokens on the target, the army shoots like slower Imperial Guard. And 2. I always want to play units of 6 pioneer bikes because of their shooting profiles, but then the unit is too ungainly to do its main job (secondary shenanigans). I love the theming and models but I've shelved mine until we get the second half of our model range and codex.
Glad to see Bobby G be viable on the tabletop again!
I think Votann is in a great spot ATM. Maybe he needs to try a not so all in version with some number of HG.
The Return of Roboute!
Votann really need hearthguard. It’s the most killy thing in the army. They deepstrike which eliminates the issue of movement. 10 hearthguard with volkite and grenade launchers just drop so many hits it’s ridiculous. Put a E champ with them for the mortals on charge and they are even scarier. You put out 30 volk shots with dev wounds and 10d6 blast shots all getting sustained on 5’s. For 1 cp when shooting a judged target.
Going first still more often dictates the game. Often times player two is playing a reactive game which usually gives player 1 the advantage of extra activity.