Skip It! You Probably shouldn't buy this M3 MacBook Pro
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- Опубліковано 7 січ 2024
- 2 Months with the base model M3 MacBook Pro
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Selling MBP with 8GB unified memory should be illegal.
I suppose when all Windows OEMs stop doing it (they have 91% of the market), Apple will! But MS, Samsung, Dell (new XPS 2024), etc., all start at 8GB but those OEMs do not provide those for reviews so we never see that it is exactly the same in Windows-land! Of course, it is a legit business model as it means OEMs can discount these during the life-cycle and attract buyers with lower budgets.
This is a great point. Here is a link to a new XPS with 12th gen i7 and 8GB of ram for $999 www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/xps-13-laptop/spd/xps-13-9315-laptop/xn9315fyvnh
Let’s snitch on them to the EU
@@JerrySchulze12th gen is two generations old not new
@@j340_official
But if one buys an M1 MacBook Air today brand new, it's still new🙋
You are absolutely right. 8 GB RAM is not enough for a future proof Mac.
Thanks, Jerry!
you're welcome!
Hello, Jerry. I'm considering to buy my first MacBook after four years of working as a software engineer; my daily activities aren't too demanding, so should I go with the m3 16/512 or m1 pro model? 14" In my country, these two versions are priced the same.
Great Video 💻 !!!
I got the base model last week but with 16GB of RAM and a 1TB hard drive from my local Apple Store. However, it drove me nuts that it's still not a "Pro" machine with the lack of the Pro chip. I returned it yesterday and got a space black 1TB MBP and am glad I did.
Ive got this macbook. It scares me thinking it will be obsolete in the next 2-3yrs. I can everything that I need to do atm in my ipad, I was just hoping this will be beneficial when I start university next month.
Keep the good work Jerry. I Think you have your place in the tech reviewer universe. You bring nuance and answers to deeper questions than the usual youtuber's "product review". You made me buy an iphone 15 pro instead of the pro max and i'm glad I did it, and now I cant use a phone unless there is a mat screen protector on it. Next step would be to have a visual identity / visual cue to differientiate yourself from the mass. I can easily spot a thumbnail from LTT, Mathew Monitz, MKBHD and hardware canucks from a search, but when I look for you, I have to comb everything one by one.
Very much appreciate the feedback and something to consider.
I have this laptop in space grey, base model. I have no issues with it. I use google chrome with 8 tabs open at all times. no problems. I enjoy the screen on this laptop so much its awesome
I just pick up a 16 inch M3 Max and this is my first Apple silicon, I’m coming from a Intel base Mac Pro
Thanks for the awesome review. Exporting failure is probably a software issue but still not a good omen. After some research, I bought a refurbished M1 14” Macbook Pro with 16g memory and 1tb SSD with less than $1200. I may like this 14” M3, but I will buy it used a year or two later at the reasonable price.
Have you reached out to other tech reviewers to ask them to test your Final Cut Pro export on their base M3 MacBook Pro (because they all have them)? Ever since I watched your earlier video on this issue I wondered if this was a hardware problem with your actual computer rather than the model itself. I'm basing this on the fact that all of the reviews since Apple Silicon computers were originally released seem to say that the base models (M1, M2 and now M3) will get the job done, just (quite) slowly - except yours. I still think it might be a hardware fault with your computer.
Where did you get your display? What brand is it from?
The one you showed near the beginning of the video.
In this video I show the studio display geni.us/v7cQ3Z5 and the Dough Spectrum geni.us/GTvuvz
Wow, thank you for the valuable test results of the M3 MBP. I will definitely skip the M3 MBP.
Honest and good review. Getting an 8 might be okay for the time being but imagine it in 6,7,8 years
I debated upgrading to this M3 from my M1 Pro MBP 14 (16GB/1TB), but based on what I've been hearing from UA-camrs I wouldn't come out ahead.
I’m genuinely interested to know why on earth you are even considering upgrading from m1. There is still a huge amount of mac users that are still on intel, that’s what m3 is for. M1 to m3 is such an incremental change. These are computers, not phones. You can hang onto it for a long time.
@@jonathanh9592 TBH, I get attracted by shiny new things. But in this case common sense prevailed.
Finally pulled the trigger and retired my old 2012 MacBook Air and ordered a new M3 MacBook Air 16GB RAM &512 SSD in midnight.
As I was in a position to spend a bit more I did so.
It will be a step up
Nice upgrade!
Thanks for your this content. 👍🏾
Isn’t one key reason for the speed difference that since M1 the SSD’s are slower and so swap memory is slower? I think one experiment on a key channel showed the 512GB drives completed work a lot faster than the base model due to the faster double NAND drives (apologies if I got the technical saying wrong).
Thanks for watching. The base m3 includes 2 nand chips and I am not sure the speed of the SSD was causing issues.
@@JerrySchulzeAppreciate the time taken to respond! I have yet to have an M Mac so thanks for this analysis (last Mac was a 2017 Pro - 15 inch).
@jerry schulze please review the m3 air models
Working on it. Thanks!
It’s only 1 price bump above a 13” M2 air with 512gb
For that you get a bigger brighter display, card slot, hdmi, and a faster cpu
I don’t see how that is a problem.
8gb is fine for software development too
I wonder how this base model competes with the asus 155h with 32gb of ram. In terms of the spec
155h, 32gb ram, 1tb. When upgrade this base macbook pro to the spec, it crazy the price 😅.
I’m impressed with your posture but not convinced it’s the same when the camera stops rolling 🤔😂
Oh, it’s awful. But thanks for the comment on my body.
5:21 That’s crazy. Is the M3 chip basically on par with the M2 Pro chip? Maybe I should wait for M3 Mac mini instead of paying for M2 Pro Mac mini…
The M2 Pro is a beast of a chip and pretty much as fast as the M3 Pro. If you can get a refurb or nice sale then probably no need to wait.
How would you compare a M3 base model with 8GB Ram with a base model M2 Pro with 16GB RM which is $600 cheaper?
Many people only know Best Buy and Apple stores. They don’t know about PC Richard and Son, B&H, Micro Center, Mac Connection, Insight Enterprises, and CDW.
If they know them, they won’t buy an 8GB Ram MacBook Pro because those seller offer 16GB Ram MacBook Pro at the same or even cheaper price than the 8GB Ram version sold in Best Buy and Apple stores.
For example, Part# Z1C80001D is not sold in Best Buy, but sold by other resellers at $1499, $1599 only.
8gb isn’t enough for power users let alone content creators or professionals. So if a person buys an 8gb configuration, it’s on him.
I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it… Apple needs to fix the naming of their laptops. It SHOULD be the “MacBook Air”, “MacBook” (non-pro chip 14” form factor), and “MacBook Pro”. Anything with less than 16GB of memory and 512GB of storage should not be called “Pro”.
Those in need of the base model would be better off getting a MacBook Air M1 base model and saving a lot of money!
I don't know. Buying a Mac for 5+ years, I want something other than a three-year-old chip with two years less support. Then there is no miniLED, lower max brightness, worse speakers, less IO, slower RAM, no encoders/decoders on M1, a much better neural engine on M3, better graphics on M3, etc. I have seen the base M3 MB Pro 14 at £200 off.
The Base M1 actually performs better than the base M2 Air in some situations. The M2 Air with 16GB (or 24) is really good!
With either 16 GB of RAM or 2 external display support it would be FLYING of the shelves. Such as it is - hello refurbrished M1 Pro. Hell, at least 12 GB + 512 GB....at same price.
just received my Apple certified refurbished m3 macbook pro 16 GB 512 SSD for $1376 !!! (10% veterans discount)
Fantastic!!!
The brand new M3 MacBook Pro 16GB 512GB SSD is only $1499 on Mac Connection, Part# Z1C80001D. Refurbished version for $1376 is not cheap.
Refurb apple is basically "brand new" still 125 cheaper. If your a hater I understand. I have a Mac Studio as my main computer so TO ME it's a good deal.@@City-Hiker
@@dld5420041 ：Well. This is purly up to you, I just express my opinions.
For me, I would rather buying an opened box, but never buy a refurbished laptop.
@@dld5420041 : Well. It is purly up to you. I am just expressing my opinion, how come will being a hater?
do safari on mac supports pro motion ?
Rather they make a 15 inch air with m3 pro and extra SD card slot
I bought this model on best buy great deal, 1,280 (open box- excellent) with 24 months to pay it interest free. I have always wanted a MAC and I dont know how I feel about it, Hopefully I can at least play League of legends!
I have the same model
My work mostly take 1 gb swap model but never felt it slowing down
14 inch m3 pro wasnt available
I think MacBook Pro M3 is still pretty good deal provided it is purchased with 1TB SSD and 16/24GB RAM. Otherwise it is better to downgrade the purchase to M2 or M1. But it also depends on one's real use case that one wants for the moment and the foreseeable future.
But if you want to upgrade the M3, the M3 Pro is right there.
@@JerrySchulze Yes, but the battery back up is not the best.
This should really be called the "MacBook" The lineup would be MacBook Air, MacBook, MacBook Pro and MacBook Max. What's interesting is that you can get a MacBook Air for less money. Yes it doesn't have active cooling, but they still are highly capable.
And if you upgrade to 16GB on the Air, you will be just fine with performance.
Are you a software developer?
No, systems engineer.
This model should be renamed the "semi" Pro. 😊
The MacBook Pro [SE]
Is it worth if I upgrade to 16GB memory?
Yes but then you are so close to the m3 pro version.
@@JerrySchulze Feels like a trap made by Apple lol
I'm pretty sure the standard M3 (as opposed to the M3 PRO or MAX) does NOT have HDMI 2.1, and CANNOT do that high refresh rate (nor 8K for that matter).. Might want to address this factual error somehow...
Ill stick with my M1 13mbp as I got it for a great price used and it great for what I use it for. Have to laugh my old macbook pro 2011 has 16gb of ram and still can do certain task, but my M1 far better. As for M3 I would have to go for the pro version but its way more expensive.
Cataract surgery?
I had it for 2 days and returned
What other computer do you have?
@@JerrySchulze I’m getting today MP 16 M3 pro 36GB RAM and 512 SSD. On Space black
oooohhhh, nice!
Of course I will skip it
If they had it $1499 with 16gb/512
They would've sold x10 as much devices
well i bought it an i like it :) its better than the m2 pro
Interesting, why is the base M3 better for you?
8gb ram is a joke and its worse with unified ram as the 8gb is both system and Video memory .. your Video is great but in 2024 apple Must make 16GB the new Minimum... im looking at getting an M3Max 16 inch with 16 Core and 40 Core gpu and will be getting 64gb ram and 2TB ssd as a minimum for my system ... as this will be a Final cut pro editing machine and i wanna get 5 -7 years out of the system and will be docking it to Multiple 4k displays...
Im better off using an M2 Max thats speccd out than an M3...Been looking at the reviews and too amny ppl have returned them,alot of ppl claim overkill with power but many have had issues with temporary freezing and while the M3 is theoretically the more powerful unit the M2s are doing almost the same damn thing without any of the issues M3 faces and well the M1....Hmmmm still performing very close for a better price point and the diminishing of the M3 Memory Bandwidth is beyond my understanding,also the difference in cores for performance and efficiency rubs me the wrong way...Im a dj that uses stems and many other editing apps so Id rather have a unit thats powerful to last me at lesst 5years. Anywhere from 32 GB RAM up for me and Im a TB storage dude,I think the Tech world should have Apple face court for selling a Pro machine with 8Gb Ram and 256 SSD,thats so antique and childish in 2024,why prolong the bottlenecking of the system by small ram and small storage space the average college student will blow thru that ram in a month or two doing certain projects and swap wont help as it erodes the SSD faster than normal so yeah Apple should reconsider or theyre gonna have some filled warehouses. Everyone is starting to avoid M3 and run back to M2 and M1 respectively and thats facts right there. The phenominal difference from Intel to Silicon is already overkill for some people but the M3 doesnt feel like an upgrade it feels like it belongs somewhere between the Intel and M1 and not a upgrade from M2 in some aspects
I think Apple was right to more differentiate the M1, Pro and Max, it makes sense. I think 8GB is just a mistake now, like how APple held on to 16GB iPhones for too long.
In the UK, the Surface Pro 9 starts with 8GB, as did the Galaxy Book 3 Pro, all 2023 releases. Of course, no YT reviewer ever uses them as they would risk any negativity, losing them sponsorship, affiliated rewards and early access. So, people like you never see that Apple is the same; it is simply that Apple does not have such a close relationship with YT creators. So creators have to buy their own Macs and make money from views, negative ones obviously being more rewarding.
I did 2 videos recently with Surface devices.
@@JerrySchulze were they the 8 GB base models? That was what I was referring to.
Yep!
Apple will be punished , No one should buys until it’s 16 GB and another type c on other side for the same price. Excellent video every UA-camr should tell their viewers not to buy
apple are aware of their strategy, they know this isn't a pro model, its for the MBA user that wants the life cycle improvements, its a luxury computer, they know real pros won't buy this nor spec it higher as it gets close to the M3 PRO model. Come on guys, apple has done this with som many of their products and at the end of they day its up to the aware or unaware consumer to make the decision. Do I need an I phone pro max 15 or would a regular 15 have been just as good... they know us!!
Apple arrogance has no limits
Nope! Bad idea from Apple!!!