Line 6 Helix - Dialing In The Placater Dirty (Friedman BE100)
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
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I have had a lot of requests to do a video on how I would dial in the new Placater Dirty Helix model which is based off of the Friedman BE100 amplifier. Here is what I came up with after messing around with it. Hope you all enjoy and please feel free to subscribe to my channel if you are so inclined :-)
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Wow, just downloaded this preset, it might be the best sounding all purpose rock preset on my Helix. Thanks so much Jason for these great videos and making them available for everyone.
I just want to thank you Jason for your generosity in making and sharing all these fantastic videos and tones! I just bought my Helix last week and really appreciate the information you share! Thank you! All the best! Peter
Thank you so much Peter and so glad you enjoy the videos :-) Hope you are enjoying your Helix!
great vid again Jason ! I am fortunate to own a real Friedman and this model on the helix is super close :-)
Thank you so much +wilsonabel :-) Very nice to hear from a real Friedman owner how good the model is! Thanks for your comment...
wilsonabel I have the smallbox limited and I think I’m repeating again but I thought I’d love it out of the box but I need to tweak it. It’s good but I need it to be with our guitar ears perfect. Lol. I think I missed something in this amp model. Again, I’m new to the Helix. The different options that are on the back of the real amp. Need to look again but it’s 1am which tends to be when I want to play the most but wife and apt living. 🌙
that is so encouraging as I don't have 4k for a Friedman BE-100 or the place to crank a 100 watt amp and my HX Stomp does the job.
This amp paired with a greenback IR from Ownhammer, ML-LAB or Celestion is...amazing!
Just so you know, I grabbed this off CustomTone and it immediately worked great with Helix Native. I'm also using a baritone. The sound is one of my favorites already. Thank you!
Oh that is awesome news Robert! So glad it is working out for you :-) My pleasure!
The P90’s are a smash with this amp model! It really moved me!
Thank you Dean :-) I love P90's!!
Read through the manual for the BE 100, it's only a page or two. Between drive/saturation/BE a HUGE amount of ground can be covered. One thing I love about Placater is the way it cleans up with my volume knob. Yes, it'll saturate to creamy goodness, but it also gets such a nice mid sparkle-drive when rolled back. This and the Lonestar really are the first models that feel like amps under my fingers. Would like to hear what you dial in for a nice higher-gain tone with delay and verb and how it would sit in a mix. Maybe you've done that already? You're so prolific with videos I can't keep up! :) Cheers!
Thanks so much Kurt :-) I am really enjoying the Placater and Lonestar also! I will try to get to dialing in a higher gain tone one of these days also, wish there was more hours in the day lol
Just spent my entire sunday watching your helix series, so much good stuff, cant thank you enough!
Oh thank you so much and so glad you enjoyed the videos :-)
Hey Jason, thanks a lot man! Followed you all the way through and got the sound I wanted. Even picked up on the quick playing and incorporated into my style.
My pleasure and so glad it was helpful :-)
Jason... beyond words! Amazing chops and amazing tutorial! Thanks so much bro! Just awesome!
Ahh thank you so much Rick :-) The kind words are much appreciated! So happy you enjoyed the video!
Great video! Really helped me dial in my settings. I own two Friedman amps and I really like this model when it's dialed in right!
Thank you so much Enrique :-) Glad it was useful for you!
One of my favorite amp models on the Helix/HX Stomp next to the Soldano, ENGL, Revv and Rectifier.
It is really nice :-)
Absolutely GREAT video. Kudos
Thank you so much Jerry :-)
Thank you so much for doin these videos man. I really learned a lot about dialling in Helix tones from your channel. Btw that Friedman amp sounds killer!
Thank you for these and the time you take to do them as well as freely sharing your skills. As a new Helix owner and getting the knack of preset building and tweaking your videos have become an essential training tool. Little things like the crossover split and the mic selection, placement and distance are things I would not have applied as quickly as I already have. Could you speak sometime to cab/IR level setting and if that has any actual tone implications or just another gain/balancing stage?
Thanks so much for the kind words and so happy that the videos are helping you out :-) The cab/IR level won't have any sonic implications. It could be used to balance the volume between cabs when using 2 cabs but other than that it would be more for adding or subtracting gain. Hope that helps!
very nice! love your detailed approach to tone sculpting :) also reminds me I drooled over some Godin guitars years ago, yours sound great!
Thank you so much and very glad you liked it :-) Oh the Godin's are oh so nice! Thanks for watching...
Great video as always. I really appreciate your walk throughs. I messed with this model last night to work on an Alice In Chains preset since he apparently has been using a custom Friedman.
So many amp models to use, so little time. I need to go through each amp to get an ideal EQ/setup on each and save as templates.
Thank you so much SS :-) It is so true that there are so many amps to choose from it is hard to get to them all, which is a good problem to have! The Placater is truly an amazing amp model though!
Very nice demonstration!
This is SUPER. thanks for sharing, I’m loving it 🥰. It does sounds very similar to my latest tube amp (a boutique) so it’s also facilitating my passage to helix 😀
Jason, if u ever get a chance to try a smallbox limited. Not the regular, must be the limited. I think you will really like it. It’s not bassy. Has extra gain. It really is my favorite and best amp. Worked and saved for years traded up from really cheap bad gear over the years and finally got it in off white. Wildwood Guitars here in the U.S spec’d it out. It’s great. FYI I’m
Using the Doug Aldrich zebra pups in my guitar. Really like them after spending my whole life using stock Seymour Duncan alnico 2s and JB’s. And SD got his start in the town I grew up in at the now gone music center. Got my first real guitar there many yrs later. A fender American Standard Strat. Read it in guitar player mag yrs after I bought the guitar. I’m in a major city now and let me count the guitar stores we have left here. Zero.
Thanks Andrew, I hope to be able to try one at some point :-)
Great Video as always!!!
Thank you so much and glad you enjoyed it :-)
Pair the Placater with the matching Freidman 412 IR by 3 Sigma and you are cooking with gas. Adjust high and low cut as required...loving them on my Helix.
I am not a big IR user personally as the stock cabs do everything I need them to. Also, my goal with this Dialing In... series is to not use any 3rd party IRs to get the tones. Thanks for listening and the suggestion though :-)
This video makes me want to look at my LT to see if I need to do an update...
The updates usually add some great new features :-)
I have a BE50, like you have realised - it's really dark. I use it on settings very close to where you have concluded with the treble and presence both around 7-8.
Cool and good to know! It seems to be an important part of getting this amp to sound amazing :-)
I own and gig a BE50 dlx as well and a Runt 50...neither is "dark" in any way that I would describe an amp to be. Just curious, what cab and speakers do you use with your BE50? What settings do you typically run?
As always great video Jason. I just wonder whether I'll ever enjoy messing about with crossover blocks and post amp EQ to achieve the tone of the built in amp block. Why does Line 6 not compensate for some of this within the amp/cab pairing to better simulate the real amp? Maybe a video on this particular issue is in order; perhaps you could help us understand the thinking behind having inbuilt amps and cabs that are supposed to model the real thing and yet need quite a high degree on EQ, volume compensation and compression to sound authentic....
Hey Jason, when you checked the meter at the start of the video and boosted the output block, can you elaborate more on what you were doing here? Awesome videos, keep it up! 🤘🏻
Thank you so much :-) I am running the Helix into my DAW (Cubase 9.5 Pro) which has input meters. So I was using the output block of the Helix to boost the volume up to a more usable level into Cubase as it seemed a little quiet to me. Hope that made sense :-)
Friedman "seems" to be a lot like the old plexi Marshalls with a nice tight grunt. Just the way that I hear it. I am with you, don't care for C45 or Saturation. Fat is pretty cool.
Absolutely Jerry, totally agree! And yeah I like the FAT control but as you said could leave the C45 and Sat.
Thanks so much ! This really helped !
The gain blocks....I was wondering what purpose of them was... So the top you increased and you mentioned anything above 650hz??? Where did that number come from? Great videos BTW
Thanks so much and glad you enjoy the videos :-) I talk very in depth about the Crossover Split and Gain Blocks in this video which should answer all your questions about it:
ua-cam.com/video/2oSUj8oK6Pg/v-deo.html
Let me know if that helps!
Jason Sadites just watched it... I had the big light bulb moment. Lol. Thank you so much Jason. Cheers
Oh that is awesome :-) My pleasure and so glad it helped! All the best!
Hi Jason you got me hooked to your videos they are very helpful. Got a preset for the nylon multiac? Would be very interresting
Thank you so much Stephane :-) I will look into doing a preset for the Multiac as I have a couple of those in my studio. Let me see what I can do when I have a moment.
Hey Jason....I have had my Helix for just over a week now...its been a bumpy ride, but thanks to your videos,I have been able to get some great sounds...The routing is throwing me for a bit of a loop.. I have a question....I am using my Helix Rack thru a pair of Yamaha HS7's...I want to do a wet/dry/wet configuration....If I bought a 3rd monitor for the dry center channel, would this work??Do you think it would sound good??I have seen people use a real amp for the Dry channel, but was wondering if it could be done with a 3rd powered monitor with the same results??I don't currently have a real amp(bought the Helix instead)...so I was just wondering what your thoughts were on how to accomplish this, and how it would sound??Thanks again for your videos....I swear I would have sent this thing back if it wasn't for you....
Hey Scott, thanks for the comment and so glad the videos have been helping :-) I actually did an interview on a UA-cam show called The Helix Hour about a month ago and I created a W/D/W patch for the show that is available for download here: bit.ly/2uD0lBh . There are two patches here one is meant to be used with a real amp but the other is all within the Helix like what you described above. Hope that helps :-)
Have you considered creating these dialed in amp patches for sale as a group a' la' Glenn? I would rather pay you for your work than just download them.
Thank you so much for the offer :-) I dont mind offering them for free but I do include a link to my PayPal in the description for anybody who would like to contribute...nice of you to mention this :-)
Done
Just received and thank you so much Doug :-) It is truly much appreciated and I hope you enjoy the preset!
Great sound, easy, fast, awesome, thanks Jason!!! Could you dial something for an 8 string guitar? please!! Greetings
Thank you so much Felipe :-) I would love to do something for 8 string, the only problem being that I don't have one unfortunately :-(
Sir, I realize that you don't use IR's, why is that? Thanks for answering! Best wishes!
Hey Felipe, I have nothing against IRs I just don't feel they offer me anything more than the stock cabs. I am able to get what I need out of stock cabs with an easier workflow :-)
Jason Sadites I agree with you on that. I think the stock cabs if dialed in properly are just as good.
Could that Y crossover split be used at the beginning of bottom path so that one could blend 2 cabs or irs ? Or does it have to be right after the cab on the top path? Thanks again for another insightful video .
My pleasure and thanks for watching :-) I don't see why that wouldn't work off the top of my head. Set your output block on Path 1 to Path 2a and it should be fine. I guess when using stock cabs you could also use a dual cab block into the split x-over also.
Jason Sadites
Cool. I like the Marshall and Friedman irs from 3 Sigma Audio, so I’m going to try blending them and then applying this Y split approach. Thanks!
Awesome! Hope it works out, let me know :-)
Jason Sadites
It worked out very well, actually. I ended up blending a 2 x12 with a 4 x 12 and the crossover worked great on the bottom path. Give it a try.
Oh that is awesome to hear! I will have to give it a try when I have chance. So much flexibility with the Helix :-)
I'm new-ish to the Helix. Where do you normally have your big Helix volume knob set? I normally have it around 1 o'clock. Is this more of a set it and forget it volume adjustment, then use the software to adjust volume? Thanks for the help!
Maybe you can help me. I'm a new helix owner and am having a hard time getting decent tones out of it. I'm using jbl slr305s through xlr. Just about every patch I download or build manages to sound dark and thuddy and harsh at the same time. The only good tones I've managed to get so far are with a plexi bright or a panama with a rat in front on mild settings.
The rat tightens up the gain and makes it come alive and sound just like I'm sitting in front of a tube combo. Even though this has worked an amp like the panama shouldn't need a pedal to make it come alive. I feel like there must be some global setting or something I'm missing,
but it's been a chore so far to coax good sounds out of it. All the clips I hear sound nothing like my helix. I just tried your be100 patch and it sounds dark and thuddy with no sizzle. Wish I could figure out what i'm doing wrong.
Hi Ed, I would love to try and help out! Could you l ask what your global settings are for your XLR outs on your Helix? It should be set to "Line" if you are plugging directly into your studio monitors. Take a look there first and let me know.
I'm sorry, I should have mentioned in my first response that I have the xlr set to line. I just cant figure out what's wrong.
Can I ask what kind of guitar and pickups? Passive or active? Which input you are going into in the Helix?
I'm using a Les Paul with 57 classics going into the guitar in on the back of the helix lt.
So you have it plugged into Guitar In on the back? Can I ask what your impedance settings are set to in global settings and if you have Guitar Input pad on or off?
Hi,
I’m not understanding you crossover setup, is there a video where you explain what you are doing here?
Sure thing Darren :-) Check this video ua-cam.com/video/2oSUj8oK6Pg/v-deo.html
Hope you enjoy!
Hey Jason! Thanks for your work! I am trying to make my Placater work with my 8 string Ibanez M80M, would you mind please look at the settings? Thanks:)
My pleasure :-) I would love to try and help you with the 8 string tone, the only problem being that I do not have and 8 string to dial it in with so I am not sure I wouldbe much help with those really low frequencies.
Thanks for your reply Jason! Well, I can record you some dry signal from my guitar ;)
Saturation seems to squash the sound sound a bit.
Yeah it sure does, much more "saggy" it seems.
i think u achieved a usable tone, but i feel that its not respecting the real amp, learning how to use that model i realized that the bass was the trouble i just set it at 2 and work from there without any eq or cutting frequencies, i also feel that the tone its too compressed and lacks dynamics due to the extra make up! great video though thanks!
Would someone mind explaining how the split/crossover with the gain blocks is different than just adding a simple lo/hi shelf eq block?
It is the same thing. When this video was released, there was no lo/hi shelf eq in the Helix. The reason the lo/hi shelf eq was added by Line 6 is because of the video I did about using the split path in this manner to turn it into a lo/hi shelf eq. There is no point in using this technique any longer now that the lo/hi shelf has been added. Hope that helps 😀
the dahk side
Haha, that is exactly what I was thinking of when I said that :-)
Why do you look like a disappointed dad when you're playing :/