In 1985 I visited a Bosendorfer dealer in Danbury CT and spent a delightful afternoon choosing the one I would purchase. I picked a model 225 and it has been a joy to play since then. When my playing days are over I will donate it to the college where I was a music professor for 56 years. My instrument has an amazing bright, singing tone that was far superior to the Steinways I had tested beforehand.
Thank you Bösendorfer for this wonderful tour of your factory. In November of 2023 I had the pleasure of attending a concert given by Sir András Schiff. He performed on an exquisite Bösendorfer VC model. The sound was spectacular and created an atmosphere of aesthetic perfection. Your piano is the dream instrument for so many pianists like myself. Please consider providing more video content for your admirers!
I went to school next to the old factory in Vienna from 1977-1985. I remember the piano sounds providing a soundtrack to our football games in the yard.
This was another absolutely fascinating video showing what goes into the making of the finest piano in the world from the choice and maturing of the chosen woods, through the construction of the Bösendorfer unique soundboard, the creation of the strings, the bass ones of which are made by hand, the building and testing of the five thousands odd parts required in enabling the action parts to work together to enable the keys to strike the strings with perfect precision, to the final finish whether the Bösendorfer high gloss ebony finish or customised exclusive veneer. Brilliant. Many thanks Simeon Goshev for the chance to hear you play, and Ferdinand Bräu for the commentary
Amazing video! Also, shout out to Ferdinand! He is a great asset for Bösendorfer and a wealth of craftsmanship knowledge. Makes us proud to carry these pianos in Florida.
Gott, möcht ich bei euch arbeiten !! Einfach mein dankeschön für diesen "Kunstbeitrag" ! ❤ - Und bitte, fast möcht ich den Anspruch erheben es in eurem einzigartigem Dialekt mir anhören zu wollen - ein Anliegen sei es auf jeden Fall ! LG. Josef aus Meran
Oh yes, these are the most wanted mass distraction weapons above all, music instruments, good vibes and music happenings to unite us so no war hostilities could ever dare to harm us anymore, no war affairs could ever prevail. Stay safe and get involved everybody and stop new war disputes, new military expenses and new trouble for all of us. Violence is not accepted only music events to make us feel just fine together, we have to stop war lords right away, in Germany or Europe, as well as African civil wars or any other area of the world, we need happy people to enjoy nice music entertainment...fans love youuuuu guys never stop believe in ❤🎉❤
Most kids that go to music school in USA will never have the experience of playing and hearing a Bösendorfer since schools in there are plagued with NY Steinways due to contracts. That is sad imo.
@@CookieCurls that is exactly why I think the Steinway monopoly has ruined people's perceptions of other instruments. To say that Bösendorfer is only good for certain music compared to Steinway is very inaccurate imo. What is "all around playing"?.. is it being able to play Justin Bieber and Chopin?
@@johndavolta3124 I mean it’s all personal preference. I mostly played on Yamaha where I went to school, but I’ve always just preferred Steinway. I find Yamaha too bright usually but I’ve played a few Yamahas that I actually like better than any Steinway, Bosendorfer is too warm, and Steinway a good middle ground. I mostly play Jazz, and Bosendorfer is too muddy and doesn’t cut through enough to be able to hear each note with a band. But it’s great for solo playing and ballads. As to your pretentious comment of “Justin Beiber to Chopin”, uhh, yeah, perish the thought that a piano is used for genres other than classical!! And yes, I find that I can use a Steinway for almost anything. But hey if you love your Bosendorfer that’s great! It’s a fantastic piano and I will never complain if that’s what I’m given. I’ll just choose Steinway if given the option.
This is such a wonderful video featuring one of the very best builders in the world. Can any tell me the piece that is being played at the very beginning of the video?
Totally fascinating - and exactly what one would expect to be told about how meticulously a Bösendorfer piano is made. Absolutely marvellous instruments! BUT - the world's concert venues are overun by pianos made by another German company, beginning with 'S'. Superb machines also, but without the generosity of bass sound; mellowness; subtlety of touch; and with (sometimes) an absolutely 'tinny' upper register. I used to be a regular attendee at a small concert hall venue on a university campus in the south of England, many years ago, which boasted a fine Bösendorfer concert grand. But the management received "an offer they couldn't refuse" from 'S' - and it was 'replaced' . . . . and now, if a fine pianist has a concert date at, say, Carnegie Hall, they will tune up 5 or more 'S's' for the artist to choose from. Not really much of a choice, IMHO! How are Bösendorfer planning to regain this lost ground?
They're obviously going to say, "Steinway is the better choice". Actually, Steinway has an overwhelming share on the high-end piano market. They have two factories in the world and the New York factory alone is able to churn out plenty of Model Ds for American concert halls. They also have a large list of Steinway Artists who are required to perform on Steinways. Therefore, it makes sense for concert halls to stock Steinways as their house piano(s). Bosendorfer only makes about 300 pianos per year as opposed to Steinway with 2000 pianos per year. Don't even think about other European brands with their 100-150 pianos per year. Steinway also has programs like "All Steinway schools" to train young pianists to get accustomed to their brand.
How did the takeover by Yamaha including the loss of the presence of Bösendorfer in Vienna itself affect the competence in making the grand pianoa? How much harmed the BAWAG scandal the survival of the manufacturing skills within the company structures, was there a unforgivable loss in skills or did the internal structures and manpower survive and train the next generation of specialists? Did Yamaha harm or did they do good ? Just to give some context: I perceive the “Imperial” to be the Best Grand Pianos ever made. Not simply loud as the major competitors, but with nuances in fading overtones that are simply unique. Therefore that alone should have been reason enough to keep this branch of piano making as a cultural heritage within Austrian structures. So my question is, does and did Yamaha honor their ownership as a commitment to excellence above their own concert piano market or just as a tool to have only Steinway left to compete with ?
Very interesting tour -- and it's a nice piano but is not, nor ever shall be a Steinway. Some of the scenes in this video explain to me just why that is so.
I have played every kind of Piano from the Trashers I had as a poor kid to Concert Grands of every make. Some of the WORST pianos I have ever played were Steinways. I own a 1980s Yamaha 6"1 and it can stand up to any Steinway. Bosendorfers are great, as are Faziolis. Yamahas when voiced right are outstanding as well. Steinway is a NAME only.
Yes it will never be a Steinway -- it is superior to a Steinway, thank goodness. Much better damper system with adjustable spoons. Removeable cappo bar featured in this video. The list goes on. Warm tone in tenor section.
*There are certain general traits of every piano brand, but every piano is unique. Steinways are, generally speaking, excellent pianos, but I've played some well maintained Steinways that were very mediocre. The most consistently fine pianos are, in my opinion, Yamaha's grand pianos. Their uprights, not so much, but the grands...*
@@timothyj1966 I've found that Yamaha's grand pianos, in my years of experience, are always very good. So consistently good, it's almost unbelievable. That said, I'm definitely not a fan of Yamaha's uprights. But the grands rock!
Bought one of these babies 20 years ago. My life was enriched beyond my wildest expectations.
In 1985 I visited a Bosendorfer dealer in Danbury CT and spent a delightful afternoon choosing the one I would purchase. I picked a model 225 and it has been a joy to play since then. When my playing days are over I will donate it to the college where I was a music professor for 56 years. My instrument has an amazing bright, singing tone that was far superior to the Steinways I had tested beforehand.
Thank you Bösendorfer for this wonderful tour of your factory. In November of 2023 I had the pleasure of attending a concert given by Sir András Schiff. He performed on an exquisite Bösendorfer VC model. The sound was spectacular and created an atmosphere of aesthetic perfection. Your piano is the dream instrument for so many pianists like myself. Please consider providing more video content for your admirers!
I went to school next to the old factory in Vienna from 1977-1985. I remember the piano sounds providing a soundtrack to our football games in the yard.
This was another absolutely fascinating video showing what goes into the making of the finest piano in the world from the choice and maturing of the chosen woods, through the construction of the Bösendorfer unique soundboard, the creation of the strings, the bass ones of which are made by hand, the building and testing of the five thousands odd parts required in enabling the action parts to work together to enable the keys to strike the strings with perfect precision, to the final finish whether the Bösendorfer high gloss ebony finish or customised exclusive veneer. Brilliant. Many thanks Simeon Goshev for the chance to hear you play, and Ferdinand Bräu for the commentary
Amazing video! Also, shout out to Ferdinand! He is a great asset for Bösendorfer and a wealth of craftsmanship knowledge. Makes us proud to carry these pianos in Florida.
Some useful time stamps
0:15 wood seasoning & materials
0:50 wood selection and cutting
1:25 cast iron plates
1:45 capo bar
1:54 rim & case (process and materials)
2:33 downbearing
3:06 outer rim
3:29 bridge notching
3:53 plate placement and adjustment
4:12 bass string production
4:29 individually single strung
4:50 action & keyboard
5:36 regulation
6:08 cramming machine (breaks in action)
6:19 voicing
6:53 finish (exterior)
7:17 custom finishes
7:50 selection room
8:20 wrap up overview
They could make a 1 hour video about every one of these and I would watch it all multiple times lol
I came across an Imperial in Krefeld Germany years ago. I will never forget the thrill of being able to play it for a few minutes.
Ich hab einen Imperial gekauft, kannst gern zum spielen vorbeikommen
Hi sir can you plz tell me which piano is better 280vc vs imperial 290@@ludwigsnihonto8757
Das IST kool..Bosendorfer, merci, c'est magnifiqe... Piacere...🎉
Wonderfull! It is awesome to see the superb skills of these workers!
Gott, möcht ich bei euch arbeiten !! Einfach mein dankeschön für diesen "Kunstbeitrag" ! ❤ - Und bitte, fast möcht ich den Anspruch erheben es in eurem einzigartigem Dialekt mir anhören zu wollen - ein Anliegen sei es auf jeden Fall !
LG. Josef aus Meran
Oh yes, these are the most wanted mass distraction weapons above all, music instruments, good vibes and music happenings to unite us so no war hostilities could ever dare to harm us anymore, no war affairs could ever prevail. Stay safe and get involved everybody and stop new war disputes, new military expenses and new trouble for all of us. Violence is not accepted only music events to make us feel just fine together, we have to stop war lords right away, in Germany or Europe, as well as African civil wars or any other area of the world, we need happy people to enjoy nice music entertainment...fans love youuuuu guys never stop believe in ❤🎉❤
Netter Film, herzlichen Dank fuer den Einblick in die Fabrik, wo die Magie zustande kommt!
Absolutely fascinating ! Thank you !
Muy bien. Muchas gracias por enseñarnos sobre la fabricación de sus famosos pianos. Danke!
My 214VC is utterly fantastic!
I am lucky to have a 1916 model, still playing wonderfully.
With the Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata sounding in background.
5,000 moving parts! Wow!
And that’s only the action… which is just a part of the whole piano.
Most kids that go to music school in USA will never have the experience of playing and hearing a Bösendorfer since schools in there are plagued with NY Steinways due to contracts. That is sad imo.
It’s ok! We like our Steinways. Bosendorfer is good for specific scenarios where you need something very warm, but not great for all around playing.
@@CookieCurls that is exactly why I think the Steinway monopoly has ruined people's perceptions of other instruments. To say that Bösendorfer is only good for certain music compared to Steinway is very inaccurate imo.
What is "all around playing"?.. is it being able to play Justin Bieber and Chopin?
@@johndavolta3124 I mean it’s all personal preference. I mostly played on Yamaha where I went to school, but I’ve always just preferred Steinway. I find Yamaha too bright usually but I’ve played a few Yamahas that I actually like better than any Steinway, Bosendorfer is too warm, and Steinway a good middle ground. I mostly play Jazz, and Bosendorfer is too muddy and doesn’t cut through enough to be able to hear each note with a band. But it’s great for solo playing and ballads.
As to your pretentious comment of “Justin Beiber to Chopin”, uhh, yeah, perish the thought that a piano is used for genres other than classical!! And yes, I find that I can use a Steinway for almost anything. But hey if you love your Bosendorfer that’s great! It’s a fantastic piano and I will never complain if that’s what I’m given. I’ll just choose Steinway if given the option.
Wonderful.
2:42 the guy doing it made it looks so easy 😂
This is such a wonderful video featuring one of the very best builders in the world. Can any tell me the piece that is being played at the very beginning of the video?
Fantastic Technology, to transform, air, wood, vibrations of a particular calibre into spirit in the ear, heart and mind!
For focusing on facts
W/ Limited marketing mush,
THANKS
Totally fascinating - and exactly what one would expect to be told about how meticulously a Bösendorfer piano is made. Absolutely marvellous instruments! BUT - the world's concert venues are overun by pianos made by another German company, beginning with 'S'. Superb machines also, but without the generosity of bass sound; mellowness; subtlety of touch; and with (sometimes) an absolutely 'tinny' upper register. I used to be a regular attendee at a small concert hall venue on a university campus in the south of England, many years ago, which boasted a fine Bösendorfer concert grand. But the management received "an offer they couldn't refuse" from 'S' - and it was 'replaced' . . . . and now, if a fine pianist has a concert date at, say, Carnegie Hall, they will tune up 5 or more 'S's' for the artist to choose from. Not really much of a choice, IMHO! How are Bösendorfer planning to regain this lost ground?
True. We have the "S" too here and it gets tiring for my ears at a concert.
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Great pianos! What was that thing behind the 2 men?
What was the costume, that thing was wearing? 😖
Great
2:03 Der Kleber wurde gesehen! \m/ 😉
Great video. Is the background piano player František Janoska? The style sounds very much like him, and I know he is a Bosendorfer Artist.
ua-cam.com/video/pfItJHDHxu4/v-deo.htmlsi=nV_Lbk4YLjtgg7BW. Yes
Imagine a Bosendorfer classical guitar!
1:34 Why?
The official piano of Tori Amos.
How come you never see Bosendorfers in American concert halls?
They're obviously going to say, "Steinway is the better choice".
Actually, Steinway has an overwhelming share on the high-end piano market. They have two factories in the world and the New York factory alone is able to churn out plenty of Model Ds for American concert halls. They also have a large list of Steinway Artists who are required to perform on Steinways. Therefore, it makes sense for concert halls to stock Steinways as their house piano(s).
Bosendorfer only makes about 300 pianos per year as opposed to Steinway with 2000 pianos per year. Don't even think about other European brands with their 100-150 pianos per year. Steinway also has programs like "All Steinway schools" to train young pianists to get accustomed to their brand.
@@worldofai-games1036 So Steinway is a monopoly in the U.S.. They should be sued! Can a 'Steinway artist' play a different brand outside of U.S.?
How did the takeover by Yamaha including the loss of the presence of Bösendorfer in Vienna itself affect the competence in making the grand pianoa?
How much harmed the BAWAG scandal the survival of the manufacturing skills within the company structures, was there a unforgivable loss in skills or did the internal structures and manpower survive and train the next generation of specialists? Did Yamaha harm or did they do good ?
Just to give some context: I perceive the “Imperial” to be the Best Grand Pianos ever made. Not simply loud as the major competitors, but with nuances in fading overtones that are simply unique. Therefore that alone should have been reason enough to keep this branch of piano making as a cultural heritage within Austrian structures. So my question is, does and did Yamaha honor their ownership as a commitment to excellence above their own concert piano market or just as a tool to have only Steinway left to compete with ?
Didn’t Yamaha buy Bosendorfer?
Very interesting tour -- and it's a nice piano but is not, nor ever shall be a Steinway. Some of the scenes in this video explain to me just why that is so.
I have played every kind of Piano from the Trashers I had as a poor kid to Concert Grands of every make. Some of the WORST pianos I have ever played were Steinways. I own a 1980s Yamaha 6"1 and it can stand up to any Steinway. Bosendorfers are great, as are Faziolis. Yamahas when voiced right are outstanding as well. Steinway is a NAME only.
Yes it will never be a Steinway -- it is superior to a Steinway, thank goodness. Much better damper system with adjustable spoons. Removeable cappo bar featured in this video. The list goes on. Warm tone in tenor section.
*There are certain general traits of every piano brand, but every piano is unique. Steinways are, generally speaking, excellent pianos, but I've played some well maintained Steinways that were very mediocre. The most consistently fine pianos are, in my opinion, Yamaha's grand pianos. Their uprights, not so much, but the grands...*
@@timothyj1966 I've found that Yamaha's grand pianos, in my years of experience, are always very good. So consistently good, it's almost unbelievable. That said, I'm definitely not a fan of Yamaha's uprights. But the grands rock!
How does Bosendorfer sound differ from Steinway?