135 | SpaceX Starship - What's left until the launch?
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
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Welcome to Episode 135 of What about it!?
Today amongst other things I’ll explain to you, when we might see another attempt at a 15-kilometer flight from SpaceX’s Starship and why Rocket Lab recovering an Electron rocket booster is a huge deal for the whole space industry.
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What is SpaceX building in front of the orbital launch mount?
Propellant pressurising facility maybe? idk
Hi Felix, when do you think the 2020 starship presentation will be?
What about it!? Hot Dog stand.
A new tankfarm
My bet is on a large stationary crane so they can stack the rocket on the launch pad.
I love the fact that I am in my couch watching this amazing video, thinking about all people across the globe doing the same. GO TEAM SPACE
Cheers from Brazil!
I like your thought my friend. Greetings from Greece 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
Greetings from Georgia USA boyo!
greetings from sudan
Lol same, greetings from Chile!
Rocket lab really hit the nail on the head going smaller then SpaceX. They have thier niche now. Good luck rocket lab!!!
They couldn't have competed otherwise.
SpaceX still has the technology of the Grasshopper and could easily compete with Rocket Lab if they choose to do so. SpaceX's goal is cost per kilogram and they think they can handle it all with Starship. I look at it and see no sense to it while Elon looks at it and sees differently. I think they will probably go with Elon:-)
how can Rocket Lab can be successful or even survive orbiting a 300kg payload for $7.5 million while Starship can orbit 100,000 kg for $2 million?
@@wrwhiteal . In my opinion Starship is a few years from being operational even for satellite launch. In the meantime Rocket Lab can carry on doing its thing. The other advantage Rocket Lab has is geographical . Very little air and sea traffic to restrict launch frequency in there part of the world.
“their” part of the world.
Mary is great. highly dedicated and a professional in the craft of photography. She belongs on the cover of Time magazine as Person of the Year!
Mary really does have an eye for it. It really helps that she is knowledgeable about what she's filming. I wonder if people really appreciate how in touch she keeps us. If she wasn't able to film for a month or two, we would be lost. As would the many, many related channel that use her footage. Thanks so much Mary!
Kind thanks to Felix and the team for all the work they do making these videos! Excelsior 🚀
Thank you! :)
New WAI video, just what I needed on this cold and windy Alaska day! You never fail to keep us informed. Thank you Felix for all that you and your team do. Maria Pointer thank you too for your dedication and continuous video :-) Congrats Peter Beck and Rocketlab, one step closer!
I dunno Felix, I like my fuel terminals big!
I love those comment suggestions shown on screen. Brilliant!
Well done WAI! You’re quickly becoming my favourite news channel! Keep up the great work! ...YOU ROCK!!!
Yes, great space news coverage. = )
I'm showing love because I was told to
Thanks for adding Tim asking the hat question.
My pleasure! :D
Your work is amazing! Thank you!
Felix WOW awsom video really enjoyed the Rocket Lab section keep up the great work ..
It's really great to see another small company like spacex showing all the rino companies ,we know who they all are. The 21st century and how recovery of their rockets is the path forward in reaching for the stars. You and your team really do ROCK!!! 🖖.
I think 'leaving a footprint in space' is beyond Rocket Lab's abilities by an order of magnitude.
They can leave a foot in space tho. I’m pretty sure a regular human foot is within the electron’s payload capacity.
🤣
@@kerbodynamicx472 brilliant!
Your closure list isn't up to date... they filed one yesterday for today, with static fire listed in the doc! Road is currently closed, could be SF in the next couple hours.
It is. Look again. :) Watching LabPadre right now! :D
And a static fire happened
@phunkydroid the website has been updated and currently displays new closure dates.
Schönen guten Tag Felix. I love your program you and your team is amazing. FYI it’s imprecise not unprecise.
Keep up the amazing work.
Lg from the Canadian in Ulm.
do more interview with people like Peter! loved it!
Static fire 4 is a success.
Elon on twitter says sn8 flight next week.
30% chance of success he said, gonna cry in a corner
@@buzzsaw838 i really hoped the sn8 survived.spend 1 months of my life watching her test.
So many firsts in that flight, it'll be a miracle if it sticks the landing. Will be spectacular no matter what happens! I'm guessing it will land on it's back and that SN9 will succeed.
Thanks Felix, love your presentations.
Can I just say that WAI probably has the best produced and made videos out there.. Tim Dodd's vids look cool too but here you can see the coop of people to bring you THE best explanation they can. Stay sharp WAI family, you rock!
Thank you very much!!! :)
Great job Felix!
Thx for the Vid, watching the nasaspaceflight stream for the statickfire rn
7:00 still can‘t :c
Thank you for the great update! You rock!
You're very welcome, Daniel!!!
I find it very interesting that, no matter how many times Beck says, in public, that the primary purpose of recovery for Rocket Lab is flight cadence, people still confidently post about how it will massively reduce their cost. Of course, in that interview clip, he did say there is a possibility of the economics changing, which is also interesting.
Great to see successful private companies in the space industry. Well done Rocket Lab for your successful recovery of the booster.
Thank you all for bringing us this hope for the future
Starship can also do rideshare, but each satellite will get a boost stage for orbital maneuvers and all that. Cost/kg will be significantly lower than rocketlab to same dedicated orvit
yes, but people will still use smallsat launchers for a while, at least until starship cadence gets to a high level
There will be businesses for Rocket Lab, even after Starship reaches higher cadence level. Starship schedules will be tight for sure, and customers will be looking for alternatives. In business terms, you don't have only one supplier. You have many for backups.
maybe its possible for starship to put electron in orbit.
@@Mallchad Not even a challenge... a stacked Electron is about 17m tall, and a little over 1m wide. You could easily fit a dozen of them in the Starship payload bay...
I see the wall molds being put up for thrust diversion being put in place to pour concrete walls above ground around the launch platform. They might backfill earth around those walls to contain the high pressures of the exhaust. In the end it should all be under ground. Makes sense since digging below ground you run into the problem with the water table being so high that you would have problems with ingress of water getting into the work area. Pretty smart build it up instead of under ground into the water table.
Now that starship is at the launch pad, everything looks smaller, especially the aerial view of the tank farm next to starship😄
Imagine what the full 122 meter stack will look like.
@@carljohan9265 🤯🤯🤯
6:45 - Now that's my kind of Space Humor..🚀 🤣😂 🚀 ❗
Thanks Felix and team, you rock!
Thank you very much WAI ❤
6:33
Maybe they want to relocate the fuel farm closer to the superheavy launch pad
What they need is a conical protrusion under the test stand to deflect the engine blast outward instead of straight down. Then if the Martyte comes loose, it will fly outwards instead of upwards.
Never thought I will hear a phrase "exciting road closures"
well. my body has wrecked itself thanks to my bloody cat waking me up 4 hours early. but this is worth me not sleeping just yet!
Maybe cuddle and watch it while falling asleep? :)
Thet still need a watertower, right?
Jokws aside - They gonna need a lot of fixed infrastructure to support orbital launches including a huge crane. Johan.
Super Heavy Orbital launches will never happen from Boca Chica using more than six engines. They are building a platform in the gulf and a full engine launch will happen there or in Florida. SX advertised earlier for Platform engineers and I presume the platform is well on its way. It looks to me like even these test launches will require a lot more infrastructure:-) That includes the Boca Chica "orbital" platform being built next to the two other test stands.
You look and sound like you should/are captaining a Starship! Keep up the great content!
Real good point raised here, they won't have a flame-diverter or even launch pad for getting off the Martian surface. For this prototype testing phase it's fine to do what's convenient to make the tests they need, I'd suggest they just bite the bullet and make a flame diverter or some other system to deal with the exhaust. But eventually they will need to design either engines that are robust enough, or landing legs that are long enough to deal with not having any facilities to protect the rocket from it's own exhaust on Mars.
Obviously the hope is to eventually build launch facilities on Mars, but that could only be after several if not dozens of previous trips. Otherwise, these are 1-way trips
Your make a good point about Starship not enjoying a thrust diverter/water suppression system waiting for them on Mars. Feels like a huge challenge to safeguard the engine "undercarriage" from debris damage.
Hm, makes sense then that the first starships to land on mars should contain replacement raptor engines and undercarriage components in case subsequent ships need to perform repairs to be able to make the return trip.
I think a lot of the debris at the landing site is going to get blown away on landing.
Given the much lower gravity on Mars and the Moon, they’ve already shown that instead of using the main engines for the final landing and takeoff, they will use small versions of thrusters higher up on the Starship until they are high enough off the surface such that they can then ignite the main engines without danger of kicking up debris that could damage the vessel.
@@peterkacandes5905 Nearly but not quite right. For Mars, they should not need to redesign the engine layout for this reason. However, for the lunar version (no atmosphere & half the gravity of Mars), someone calculated that the thrust from a Starship launch could blast lunar regolith with enough velocity to put it into lunar orbit thus endangering any future low orbit / lander missions. The high level engines are there to land / launch with minimum disturbance.
@@poruatokin As I understand it, you still need to protect the main engines from rocks/debris that could be kicked up from an unimproved surface, as happened on the test stand with a prepared pad, regardless if it’s the moon or mars. Adding the upper level thrusters, despite the added weight/complexity seems likely to be a good way to address that problem, but I’m no rocket scientist and I trust they’ll figure it out one way or another. Seems like hardening the main engine bay against projectiles sufficiently will add at lot more weight than the upper lever thruster system.
Scrubtober! 😛
Keep up the good work Felix.
Love from Mozambique.
SpaceX is doing so much work so quickly! 😂 Great update Felix! 👍🏼😄
Great stuff.
Check out the cows scattering as the Electron rocket takes off! Space Cows!
I am a huge fan of Noam Chomsky... Amazing how rocket lab sent GNOME Chomsky into space! xD
With the fuel line vault in one section I would say its to protect a set of valves or a supercooler system.
Heli catch from rocket lab? Cant wait.
Hallo Felix, ich bin froh, erfahren zu haben, dass Du deutscher Herkunft bist. Deine Konversation mit Mo von Senkrechtstarter hat mir gut gefallen. Ja wir leben in einer spannenden Zeit, besonders die Entwicklung einer 100% ige Wiederverwendung einer Orbitalrakete. Genial. Ich folge Dir und den anderen UA-camrn aus technischer Neugier und Begeisterung. Herzlich Frank
Gotta love Tim Dodd asking the *real* questions!
That was me with the blue helmet on
Gracias Susi por los subtitulos ❤🚀
My thought on the "booster scaffold" is that it actually a welding robot that will weld the segments together as they are stacked.
I love it.
Thank you!
Gerade dachte ich noch, was guck ich heute Abend bloß auf Netflix und dann „Bling“ geht die Glocke an 😊👍
Bist du auch vom Interview mit Senkrechtstarter zu WAI gekommen?
ne per Abo Glocke
:D Es freut mich, dass wir zur Abendunterhaltung beitragen konnten!
Danke sehr, jederzeit wieder ;)
Kurze Frage, ist er jetzt also deutschsprachig oder nicht? Bin seit kurzem am rätseln ^^
Yes, for Electron the main challenge is not damaging Rutherfords (not even nozzles) without re-entry burn like that Falcons perform.
Indeed. The idea of a helicopter catch is the bit that amazes most people, but that's probably the easiest part of the operation. The hard part is getting it through re-entry in a re-usable condition, which is why they're not convinced about the cost savings... if the body is intact, they'll be able to increase cadence even if they need to replace all the engines, but they've obviously not going to save much money that way.
@@simongeard4824 Yes. Some of the "old players" (Arianespace or ULA) is or was playing with an idea of returning only first stage engines, as the most expensive part.
@@bazoo513 It was proposed for Vulcan, I believe...detach the engines from the tanks, and recover them by chute...
@@simongeard4824 Ah, yes. Thanks.
Well
I'm showing love because I was told to :D
Your vids come always in the good timing !
Was getting nervous from talking to my crush and telling him i love him, started to worry, then this one notification popped
You rock felix ! WAI go for launch !
2:28 This is the best DJ set up of all time!
:D
I'm fairly sure they're going to have a launch platform from every launch. Either from City to City & definitely from the moon or Mars! I mean they're going to have to have refuel facilities first...so its a no brainer
You know Electron is a tiny rocket when a Falcon 9 can launch over 50x its payload to LEO when reused - recall each Starlink satellite is 260kg and SpaceX launch 60 of them at once!
fun fact: SpaceX experimented with resuability via parachute but gave up in 2011 to pursue powered descent we all know and love :)
Space x is inspiration
Fuel terminal would not normally be located in an enclosed building, at least unless the facility was much further North, and needed snow protection.
Keep the great job!
What about... the launch mount? Don't you think the OLM might be the foundation for the massive crane which will lift and secure starship? Think about it. The drilling foundation provides the required torque, ... the missing flame diverter, ... it just makes more sense.
Uncle Felix that was really nice. Thank you. Valve has a guide creation tool that is well crafted and could be used by the HR Castle for applications, employee manuals and Mars Colony logs. Put them together with SpaceX if you can. It sure is nice to see other hardworking and professional crews get involved. You are one of the mover's and shakers too.
- I am wondering if the Electron could be a single person ride to the orbiting ship yard, maybe an emergency first responder kind of delivery you said UBER, to space wow. Is it possible for them to catch escape pods/torpedo's if they get this technology ironed out. We will be working in space, maybe mini bots, AI or android workers connected to human operators. The future is bright dare I say brilliant.
- We really like to see the industry cross crafting - You rock. Did you get a patch for the store? How about a WAI shirt with the printing on the back?
- Felix and crew take direction well and follow through to completion. Love the Starship dashboard widgets. Cookies and milk for the creator.
- If your crew can not do AI Starship chess how about the pre game Starship and Starship Heavy Booster stacking game - Space X checkers. The jigs they use look like crowns to me. Crown me! You can fix it so that we replay checkers over and over again. Each successful game where we get a barrel section to the opponents goal line, home then we get to stack another section of the booster or starship. I thought if we play checkers, like a zillion times, we could build the pieces we need for Starship Chess, have our own factory. Call your friends at steam. I know the idea is simple but I think it would be fun, looking for the next Surviving Mars, ONI, KSP What about it? --- you are well on your way AW AI
Muchas gracias por agregar subtítulos en Español, así dan más ganas ver tus vídeos por qué se de que hablas jejeje
Buen video 👌
1st off since at least 1 engine has been changed static fire tests must be redone, on top of that the pad is still not repaired (it was simply patched up) nor improved apon, with road closure dates recently approved there is no time for any of the above. so dont expect these road closures to be for anything other than static fires (on damaged, unrepaired, un-improved pad)
Nice pentagram in the water :)
i don’t wanna be nitpicky but please say ”booster number x” instead of ”booster serial number X”, thanks! keep up the amazing updates!!
Hi! I made a joke in your last livestream. I was drinking, and I asked if the Superheavy booster landing-pad could be a pool of hot liquid. I did some thinking about it when I got sober. I actually think it could have some benifits thay Elon would like! 1: Undesign/weight -> No landinglegs/complex landingpad required. 2: Flexibility -> The the landingpad can move(ship), 3: Sustainability -> Does not get degraded by use. And one more idea!: What if starship doesent need a launchpad? Could be held up by 3 cranes, and cables could let go automaticly when they are unloaded..?
All the rebar by the orbital launch mount appears to be mats pre-tied to make placement faster. Can go in walls or an elevated floor structure.
Thanks for the info and updates. I love seeing you have a new video to watch.
Any way for a lunar lander interior update???
Kinda glossed over the bare ground landing...gonna have to do it with a full payload...can't wait!
They really need a flame diverter, it will help so much.
amazing video
I loved this episode!
Your fans miss you Steffi!
@@dougthebigdp314 thank you, Doug! I'll be back, soon.
What launch is the call out 'what about it, go for launch' from the intro from?
It would be from the Apollo or early shuttle launches judging from the vid and audio quality :) just a guess
Apollo :)
@@Whataboutit what apollo mission?
Cool background
#ThankYouGabe
1:49 the parking lot is indicative of how many people work at SpaceX Boca Chica Spaceport.
A lot!
Keep up the good work Felix and Team!
One thing about reusability that has not been mentioned. The item has already proven it is flight ready. Ulike first time items.
Possibly a maintenance area for already completed starships so they don't have to stop building new ones to put damaged ones back in the highbay for repairs?
I think the approach Rocket Lab are having where they are looking to increase the pervasiveness of space launches and cube sats is incredibly short-sighted.
We are going to have an absolutely HUGE problem with space debris in the future, and none of these private companies are putting any research effort into solving that problem.
Those bloopers... 😂
XD It's always fun to record an episode!
Did you ever made an episode about Soyuz rockets ?
Maybe its worth the time, they came up with a brilliant technology.
Not returning to earth rockets, but they have brilliant performances.
Those tents aren't too close to the orbital pad?or maybe later will be moved away.I believe this is not for the full stacked Super Heavy+Starship, it will be only for the superheavy booster testing, the booster can fly by itself it needs only a nose cone.
Rocket lab is the same age as me lol
This all looks so unreal. Firstly, they are building these outside. This never used to happen. They usually build spacecraft in zero contamination hangars, everyone wearing haz mat suits. Also, they just seem to be stacking the empty rings up and calling it a rocket. Where is all the complicated machinery that you normally see? It all seems so cartoonish. Admittedly, what they have achieved so far is really very impressive.
I give it 5 years before we see a shipyard that resembles one from the Star trek movie released in 2010. Elon, good luck to you and all of those you send to leave us behind. Humans on Earth may die, but humanity will survive thanks to you.
Chances are sn9 will see much less issues than sn8, they are learning even though they aren’t flying.
Allway funny when you say "Kind thanks go to Brilliant ...", cuase kind sounds like the german word "kein", whick means no/not.
So my brain at every begin of your videos, wait why did he seid "No thanks to Brillant ..." xD
Are they going to have to build a launch pad in the ocean for Super heavy? If so I doubt it would be floating but pilons pile driven into the sea floor for support.
Water containers for the booster cooling
nobody seems to be metioning the even after the last sn8 static fire. there was still debris flying about from the latest static fire
Saw it too. What's to mention though. It's there and SpaceX seems to be going through with it. We'll just have to wait and see, what they do.
fabulous as always!!! ... but please remove that purple back / fill light. it looks like purple fringing (obtical aberration).
Err . . . Those aren't walls but concrete forms for pour-in-place concrete walls. Am guessing it will be some sort of concrete bunker similar to those standing near Sn8 tank farm.
Kleine konstruktive Kritik. Bei den Tonaufnahmen bitte fixe Untertitel auf englisch einblenden. Das würde seeehr helfen.
Is that everyday Astronaut at 14:12 Who was before that Felix ??
Yes, that was Tim!
I have school off on the 30th let’s hope everything goes well.
Heyy! Is it me, or the whole launch facility and surrounding area is a Sitting Duck just waiting for a Hurricane to sweep by and destroy the whole place with a Storm Surge??? Why arent there any barriers?