@Beth black Most women doesn't run not only because of money. That is ONE of the things used to make them stay. We're talking about mental conditioning made by the abuser. They do believe they can't run away, specially if they say they'll kill them. The age is also a big factor. You can't possible now what the hell this people think, feel and believe in this situations. And still even richest ones stay and have trouble trying to get out. The difference is when they do get out the richest ones have more help to get their lifes back on track.
@Beth black You have no idea what you are talking about. I was not poor, struggling financially but I stayed, I was psychologically abused though not beaten but I stayed, I have a young son to care for but I stayed, I was not as young as Even, I dont really know about her family situation and I had my families support but I stayed. I was raped by my husband but it took me months to realize it completely. By the time I had realized it I moved out, but he moved out first. I stayed until I couldn't stay anymore. You shouldn't be so judgemental.
Beth black its Very hard to get out , a lot of women get killed when they try to leave though its also dangerous to stay. You need to time it exactly right and have people with whom to stay or places to hide and also how to cut off information to the abuser etc
Come on, she did naughty pics at the when she was young, then she wanted to live out her bi-sexuality and got coincidentally got pregnant.... ah ok.. she's now really hurt
One of my best friends at University once confided in me that she'd been raped at a young age. I pleaded with her to speak to a psychiatrist about it. She killed herself last year. The psychological wounds never healed for her. R.I.P. EC
No they don't. No matter how hard you try and try...it sticks with you, until as she said...you are just numb. A shell of a person. I am 33 and trying. This is so damn hard. I think I have forgotten it all, then in smells and moments of lucidity they all come flooding back to me. Some things I didn't even know I was coherent for or even had remembered. It is disgusting and cruel what some people do do others, that is what sickens me most.....that the perpetrators may never know the scars they left..or even care. Going about their daily lives thinking it was the past and they were too young to know what they did was wrong and that somehow god forgave them because in their mind they have came to some sort of penance. But no sir. You are not forgiven until you go back and ask for forgiveness in hopes to heal the wounded you left to wither and die.
Lindsay Call my heart goes out to you. Please do what you can for your own mental well-being. I don't know your pain, but I know the world would be worse off without you in it. I don't say this flippantly, you have family and friends who love you and want the best for you. Fight on young lady.
Keiser Sozey That is so awful and tragic. Thank you for trying to help her. You did all you could. Make sure you take care of yourself - and seek help if you need it. All the best to you. 💞
No they never go away. I was kidnapped and held for 3 days..raped and tied down by 3 men I was naked and jumped out of a 2nd storey window to escape. That was in my 20s when I was 16 at a party a guy said he'd show me where the bathroom was then on the way shoved me into a room and raped me. I fought him I bit him kicked him in the face then had to fight for my underwear bc he wanted it as a trophy . People need to realize this happens way too much and start being conscious that survivors are -a cashier,a barista,a stay at home mother,a painter,doctor, teacher, dog Walker. Anyone and everyone Lindsay call ty for sharing and speaking about this. I still cannot smell certain things without it triggering me. I have night terrors..but I worked my butt off to not let all this own me or PTSD ruin me. Yet I do still double ck windows,doors,etc bc I live alone and the night I was kidnapped was from my bedroom thru the window
@@lindsay644 That is what people don't understand. And because your brain wants to protect you its like you're stuck in a moment in time. You have to live with it. And that's bravery.
She didnt just show up to testify, *she wrote the bill.* A real big damn hero! I hope this gets passed in all 50 ASAP because everyone who has been assaulted deserves to have their rights respected. Live to you all.
Her case is well past the statute of limitations. Her accuser himself has admitted to some of what he has done to her. It's Marilyn Manson. He was the older man she dated when she was 18. he's the one that admitted that he was emotionally abusive and said he was going to hurt kill himself or hurt himself if she didn't come back, which he did sit there and cut himself every time she refused to answer his phone calls, he said he had over 150 cuts on his arm and face from it. Her attacker admits he's abusive
I get why Manson fans are upset. I used to absolutely love this man and his music got me through a lot of things. But the signs that he’s the one talked about are clear, and the things this woman has survived are terrible. Even though it hurts to drop a musician that has got me through a lot, there is no way in hell that I will continue to support and abuser
Have you seen the video here on UA-cam titled Marilyn Manson - website intro. It's literally Manson beating Evan up. Can't believe this has been ignored for so long
@@mirellefritz9862 I have not and I do not want to see it for myself, so I just have to take your word for it. But even if this video didn’t exist the signs would still be obvious
@@rebbi8548 I understand and respect your decision to not watch. And yes, the signs were always there, but I guess for me, Manson blurred the line between shock value and his real life. Perhaps intentionally, so no one would believe future victims.
@@mirellefritz9862 I feel the same way. Not just when it comes to intimate partner violence. There have been so many people that Manson has seriously hurt for no reason, all because he “is a shock rocker” I think we have made too many excuses for that kind of behavior
@@theDudeAbid3s she must have been scared to death and perhaps the attacker felt a tiny bit bad for it.. telling her fine is extremely condescending since he was assaulting her thats anything but fine
I've had trauma patients tell me that it's not just the traumatic event, but how people react to it that traumatizes them. They bring their painful story to light, making themselves vulnerable, and people struggle with the difficult emotions and speculate on the truthfulness of the story or the character of the one who tells it. There is no other crime, where the character or behavior of the victim comes into question, rather than that of the perpetrator. We need to stop throwing rocks at the victims, punishing them for the things that have happened, as it is so disorienting to someone who has lost their trust to see a world that refuses to accept them or help them. We need to stop saying that only monsters rape, that if victims are so common that they are our family members, teachers, doctors and police officers, that surely the perpetrators can also be family members, teachers, doctors, and police officers. If we stop looking for monsters and start looking for human beings, then both the victims and those that support the victims can make sense of the crimes that occur everyday in our homes, our locker rooms, our classrooms and anywhere else trust exists.
Thank you for this. I can say as someone who has been through this and can agree with you 100% this is the worst thing about telling people your story. The way people look at you and blame you as if it is your fault. They struggle to understand why and how and do attach blame and negativity towards you (ie me) or the " victim". It is a disgusting sickness in society that people choose to look at situations of people's pain and torment, not with understand or empathy, but analytic criticism and blame. This world lacks empathy everywhere, and I believe this has a lot to do with what's wrong with the world. This is why I rather suffer in silence than have my pride and integrity taken away again. It feels like a continuation of the abuse.
@@Payton35001 I think it's terrible that you feel you can't go to anyone. Maybe the safest approach is to start by telling people that you have trauma without explaining the nature of the trauma. People don't have to know the details to heal you, and you don't have to tell every doctor or therapist everything every time. It's unreasonable for people to expect you to divulge something as personal as that on the first encounter or for a routine physical exam.
Sad thing is the those who are ardently self-professed victims are far too often narcissists looking for attention, and true victims of trauma, unfortunately, tend to struggle silently, either through fear, or fear and 'macho' repression, man or woman, further cultivating neuroses.
@@HoganplyPersonality disorders can be difficult to treat. Unfortunately, I find that personality disorders and substance abusers tend to be vulnerable populations with higher exposures to trauma, even as these populations are often the source of trauma for others. It's so important to treat victims, so that they don't become perpetrators. We have prisons full of people who take turns being both.
If she has been acting since 5 years old, she was likely targeted for abuse even before Manson. Wood is incredibly brave to share her traumatic experiences to improve society.
@@firenze5555 there’s a scene in Bruno where Sasha Baron Cohen is running a fake modeling agency looking for babies and he’s asking the parents if they would be ok with long lists of awful and/or dangerous things that he wants to subject the babies to for his shoots and the parents just readily agree to all of it. I find it hard to believe those people are real parents willing to subject their babies to this just for money and fame and yet they are. Why anyone would want their child to be an actor or model until they’re old enough to want it on their own is beyond me
@@Kyle_The_Mighty It's also putting children in adult situations and adult deadlines and pressures having a job. And then there's the very real threat of assault as there is little supervision and it doesn't take long to assault a person, especially a vulnerable child. A parent would have to be with their child every single second in that situation. Not worth it.
@@firenze5555 agreed. I think it’s time to just use cgi kids in movies. I’ll sacrifice the “realism” for child safety (and especially their psychological safety). I get that won’t work for small budget indie movies but if a studio that could afford that did that, I would pay to see that movie just on principle
It pisses me off that many people still say things like "Why didn't they come forward sooner?". It takes a very long time/process for victims to get to that stage and it is a very normal textbook behavior. Perhaps all kids should be taught about the psychology of abusive relationships at early age so that we can prevent them from falling into one. Most of us don't know much about abusive relationships growing up, and relationships in general are way too romanticized by movies. So when we are actually in the position of being abused, we get confused and can't even recognize it as abuse. Having prior knowledge would help enormously.
In February 2018 and in April 2019, Wood gave sworn testimony before the U.S. Congress and the California State Senate in support ofproposed legislation with which she and the Phoenix Act were affiliated. She testified that she had been raped once by a significant other and again "by another attacker after hours at a bar," but she did not name either ofthem. 16. Around this time, Wood and Gore conspired about how Wood and others could accuse Warner of abuse. Days before her testimony to the California State Senate, Wood incorporated the Phoenix Act. She serves as its CEO, CFO, and corporate secretary. Gore has been employed by the Phoenix Act since approximately 2019. 17. Since at least 2019, Gore has been mired in significant financial troubles. For example, her family members have presented evidence that Gore committed crimes ofidentity theft by opening credit card accounts in the names of her twin sister and deceased mother; and borrowed money from an elderly family member under false pretenses, claiming that it was to assist with the purchase of a house, which Gore never carried out. Gore wrote in a notebook left with her family that her goal of being involved with the Phoenix Act was to "make money"
yes, she is talking about Marilyn Manson. as someone who has admired Manson's work, I do not and never will stand by him and his work again. thank you Wood, for talking about your experiences. It's so hard to even tell a loved one about moments of abuse.
@@foxtrotecho9530 the time of the abuse fits perfectly to the time Wood and Warner were dating. she has not made it public for the fear of what the consequences could be.
@MB thanx for all the info, I've read some other infos too, is all very sad. I'm glad that at least they are better now (I hope they continue this way) and that they are not keeping all this inside of them anymore...
This makes me laugh to be honest. Y’all don’t follow the cases. Ever see the iPad that they used to make the plans? It’s all coming to light. Evan will be shut down.
When she said "Being raped previously made it easier for me to be raped again, not the other way around" I felt that.. I felt all of this. It's impossible to deny that her allegations are true, because one doesn't speak like this about it without actually experiencing it.
She may have been raped, but it’s pretty clear it wasn’t by Manson. Just because she says the right things, doesn’t make it true. Give me one shred of proof.. I’ll wait..
@@mikehunt7360 you can wait forever - I don't argue with internet trolls about rape. You're welcome to show proof that it's not true, but if you won't do that then I think I will continue to commend her for coming forward and sharing her experiences.
NO SYMPOTHY FOR IDIOTS THAT GET INTO A RELATIONSHIP WITH A WELL KNOWN FREAK LIKE MANSON AND THEN CRIES RAPE JUST FOR KUDOS ALL I CAN SAY IS MORE FOOL YOU FOR NOT ENDING IT GETTING RID AND CALLING THE COPS! YOU MADE UR BED YOU FUCKING LAY IN IT 'AS THEY SAY! :/
So this is a girl that actually dated Marilyn Manson, but we're supposed to be led to believe that this is the way she dresses? She's currently putting on a show for Congress, and if she someone that dated Marilyn Manson, she's probably little more edgier then she's putting off to everyone. Forgive me if I'm a little skeptical
@@adamturner1563 yeah, jealousy definitely makes you suicidal, suuuure. Maybe that's true for you. Sucks that abusive assholes have to take accountability for their actions, hm? Btw, I was a fan. Not anymore.
Read what you just said. Its SUPPOSED to sound like manson, because she carefully studied up on him to a T to make sure her story sounds legit. So of course she read that book..she was obsessed with him.
Posing as an FBI investigator is not a good luck Ma'am. If you are discrediting actual survivors, like me, then you are stealing from people who deserve to believed.
As a victim of abuse myself, I will just say this,… “ERW is a lying & conniving ‘Psycho !!! It’s beyond obvious how contrived & rehearsed this BS is 🙄 *Unbelievable 🤮
Oh really...? But you dont seem to have any problem using a provocative photo for your avatar.....? Why is it that the biggest portion of women who seem to enjoy sharing their rape stories, Also like to portray themselves as sexually adventurous?
I wish we could treat ourselves like children and say, “I didn’t know what was happening, but it hurt me and I wanted to stop. I wasn’t saying no because I was afraid, insecure and inexperienced. I didn’t say “yes” or “please do this”, even though I didn’t say “stop.” We need protection, laws and avenues for eliminating abuse. Period. Stop.
The coping brain doesn't work that way, I'm afraid. We _do_ have protection and laws. Trauma is just such a complex crime, with so little demonstrable evidence, especially of the emotional sort, that the necessary legal process is made unspeakably daunting. Avenues, however, for curtailing abuse, such as social programs, should be _a lot_ better funded. Quesiton is...how.
As a survivor of sexual abuse myself, a lot of my grounding now in healing and recovering as best as I can comes in that form. Talking to the version of myself that was lost during the abuse and telling her she is safe and she is protected now. Granted, I was a child when it all happened but telling that version of myself that she is safe and that I am proud of her and am grateful she didn’t give up and that I will protect her eases my mind enough to fall asleep or continue on with my day
ok but going out with a guy who looks like him? you cannot be THAT childish as an adult. walking right into that? seriously? talk about dead giveaway... jesus....
Ricardo Santos you cant possibly think that you can know someone will abuse you by how they look. A lot of abusers look “normal” while say Alice Cooper looked scary but didn’t do what Marilyn Manson did. Other people at that time were dressing up as a character in bands of that style but that doesn’t mean they embrace abuse. Goth doesn’t equal absolute immoral conscience.
I was sexually assaulted when I was 13 by a man in his mid 40's and the few times I go into detail about it, I don't make it poetic like this. It sounds similar to Amber's testimony. I'm not sure about this. I'm not saying she's lying or that he's guilty. Definitely have to wait until evidence comes out. Right now I've read things about FBI impersonation and scripts being handed out, so not sure what to think right now.
Amber definitely took few pointers from her testemony. Panic attacks, rules around intimate partners, waking up and screaming. Rachel sounds believable amber is court certified liar. I will wait for the court and evidence
Why does she seems like she wrote a poetic scenario and that she’s acting the role? Do the victims of domestic violence have this way of telling their experiences? She doesn’t sounds real to me. I can’t wait to see her prove all that she claims.
Keep in mind she is a drama queen actor who knows how to read a script and turn it into a greek tragedy. You believe whatever she peddles from a bias. Even if he is guilty of a few things, she is no better. Her argument is way too one sided. But likely all it is, is that she is jealous over a breakup and realizes she is losing benefits.
Imagine how destroying a whole mans career just cause she's bitter without any evidence yet..We cant just get on her side without evidence.Ive seen alot of innocent men go to jail just for an accusation from a woman.
@@marilyndoll2929 Marilyn Manson doesn't care about you personally, he'll never even know your name, and being a pick-me wouldn't make you look any special in his eyes.
@@marilyndoll2929 how pathetic that you care more about his career than what he put her through, she made this statement years ago, so you think she's been lying for years? You are just blind!
@@marilyndoll2929 Imagine u saying something like that and not being able to see her dedication to this cause, and her strength of character. Imagine u thinking she should worry about his damned career.
Unfortunately that's how it can go for some survivors. We convince ourselves that what happened could have been worse and that it's not a huge deal, then put on a brave face and return to society. I can't tell you how many times I've heard those exact words.
You do have her strength. We all do!! Guys included. It happens to all genders. I myself have been a survivor of several different abusers, in so many different forms. And, it's taken me over a decade but now finally now I speak. I actually am in the process now of writing "My Life Story." In which I will name no names at all, as I do not feel that is necessary for my story, but I will discuss details. This happens everywhere, not just "Hollywood." You are brave. Walk in that.❤
She's incredibly strong to be able to talk about what she went through so openly, even though she is clearly having real trouble getting it out. On top of which, she looks as though she might break into tears at any moment, but she holds it together to make a point. Breaking down while testifying would only harm the cause, a very sad truth. I knew she'd spent time in a Psychiatric hospital, but not that this was why. Horrifying is a very quiet way of putting it. I admire her not just for her talents as a performer, but because she's willing to stand up and be counted. And she's only just past 30 with all of this behind her...
I also found the image of her (in the pink dress) and manson out on may 25th which is her birthday as described on her instagram. So awful. Now I feel terrible for supporting his music all of these years.
She can’t, the statue of limitation for her ended over a decade ago. As she points out even if the Phoenix Act is put into law it still won’t go far enough back to let her abuser get arrested let alone prosecuted.
I’m not sure why people feel the need to protect/defend Marilyn Manson - the man DOESN’T care about you. He used his power you helped him obtain by buying his music, books, going to shows etc. and used it to leverage power over countless women! If he truly was this misunderstood guy exacting revenge for his misunderstood fans, he’d use his power to fight against gods guns and government - he instead decided to buy tons of coke and abuse and rape women... he literally SPAT in your faces... so let him go. Listen to his music if you must but he is not a good man
Very well said. I love his music but I cant respect, love or support him. I used to look up to him when I was young but as I got older I was starting to see red flags.
@@Chrisjbennett89 I also had that fan’s ‘intuition’ and saw the red flags. It’s strange that so many of his fans stopped listening /supporting him too, it’s like we somehow knew.
@@toriorourke6702 I’m ashamed to admit I’m not part of that. I just stopped listening because for years his albums have been mediocre at best and based on UA-cam videos I’ve seen, his concerts were an embarrassment. But I still didn’t see him as this kind of person. I got that the act wasn’t 100% an act and that he was definitely not someone I would want to be friends with, but that’s a far cry from what she described. Obviously I was wrong
Why should he care? Nobody owes anything to anyone. The guy is making music, if you like it you buy it. That's simple. And didn't you know by the way there's no such a thing as good and bad people?
“I am heartbroken for Kobe’s family. He was a sports hero. He was also a rapist. And all of these truths can exist simultaneously.”~~Evan Rachel Wood tweeted the day Koby Bryant died
@@Goodmorningyouall Cause since it's a serious accusation she can't name him without being prepared for legal battle with him, and having evidences. She was probably advised by a lawyer
As a victim of domestic violence myself I don't understand why it's taken this long for her to come forward? I am not calling her a fake but she is an actor and this looks like she's actually acting? I honestly didn't know who she was until this court case? Now she is more famous than ever? I have many questions all because she never reported this after her break-up with Manson? So many things just don't add up? This situation is so messy and especially after the Amber Heard situation? Its very hard to believe actor's like this? Especially when there's drugs involved too....
There are 4 other alleged "victims" all, when the statute of limitations deadline was approaching that all said they had repressed memories of abuse, all on que. I'd suggest looking up the channel Colonel Kurt's. She has been following this from the beginning. ERW is another fake DV victim that hatched this plan with the help of another woman (I don't recall her name) This woman cold called, (emailed), women who were exes and got them to get together on a ZOOM call. She produced a fabricated FBI report complete with an actual an FBI agents forged name, and essentially said, "see, MM is under investigation by the FBI - He's bad guy. Sue him and its easy money." This is another #metoo hoax. But watch some vids of ERW and see if you can't see something. When describing her relationship, notice how often she does what AH did in the interview last Friday. She'll go from him or me, to a generalized statement using you or they pronouns. Not staying with he did this He did that. Or I did this or that. She's just another Amber 💩
I agree. Innocent until proven guilty. Learnt a hard way. She sounds more believable than amber. I only noticed amber stole few lines from her too. Few women came out to accuse manson. By 2 or 3 witnesses truth shall be established. Amber is 100% liar. Nothing authentic about that vile woman
She's so brave to come forward so candidly and I'm so proud and thankful to her for facilitating these conversations and using her voice to give other women a platform. I'm so so proud of her bravery and she continues to amaze me, she is truly an amazing woman.
She is such a liar…. This was thrown out in the current court case. Her lies and deceit are being bought to the surface. She’s a good actor…… remember amber heard! 😅
This was her testifying in order to pass the Phoenix Act, so that she could later prosecute Manson... which now, suspiciously, she doesn't want to do. He's trying to take her to court but the CA legal system is now making it very difficult for ANY 'accused abuser' to even defend themselves in a defamation trial. Wood wanted a trial by media so she could spin stories without providing a shred of evidence, and it worked for a while. Even her schlockumentary uses every political smear trick in the book. She's a disgusting human being. I'm sick that I even halfway bought her story for a hot minute.
@@adamturner1563 shut up with the cancel culture dumbass - MM had a chance to speak up and he abruptly cut off an interview recently when he was asked for his side. Hes a rich and powerful man and had tons of PR and assistants he can tell his side ANY time... rapists and abusers SHOULD be cancelled. “She liked it” well, usually when you like something and it’s consent you don’t write a bill and go in front of state legislature to try helping victims. He befriended these women built their trust, he used his fame to his advantage. Geez, you are so dumb. Stop idolizing MM
Adam Turner He himself stated that he daydreamed about smashing her head in with a sledgehammer. He raped her while she was waking up from lack of consciousness and told her he could kill her. Is that acceptable in your book just because he's a shock rocker? Really?
Innocent until proven guilty..ill wait before judging MM..Woman can do these type of accusations and find it very believable um sorry but im not that dumb..Ill wait for a Trial..people dont understand that some people can do this for revenge and not question there motives.
As per my conclusion, if it happened about a decade ago with a steady partner over a length of time then it could be none other than Marilyn Manson. And it has nothing to do with MM's facade rather just based on the facts in this testimonial.
Satanist do not commit ritual abuse. That's a lie made up by Christians. One they've use to demonize nearly every religion outside their own. Pagans anyone? Satanists actually respect all life. Most Levayists are even vegetarians. As for blaming Manson: "I wouldn’t trade any of [our relationship]," Wood told Net-a-Porter’s The Edit in August 2015. "I appreciate everything he taught me. I just don’t think we were right for each other." But yeah "facts" and "satan". Lol
Pink Nosebleed I agree about the satanism part. However, the comments about the ex aren't proof. She mentioned she was raped a decade ago, but didn't get professional therapy and the chronic PTSD diagnosis until seven years after the rapes. That puts it roughly around three years ago that she got help, and likely began to recognize much of the abuse for what it truly was. Being hit is much easier to see as abuse than when you're being emotionally, psychologically manipulated in cruel, violent ways. It's also very true that people defend their abusers, even when police are called because a partner is being beaten, etc... But by the time police arrive, or the next day, they decline to press charges - recanting their stories to the police (who SAW the aftermath)... Because they "love them". (Also why more and more places have enacted laws where the police can proceed with these charges, after seeing repeat abusers beating the crap out of their partners, and then threatening them if the proceed with charges and/or that they're "sorry, baby; I'll never do it again!" etc...). IF it's Manson, she may well still have been in that cloud of needing to protect him, fearing him, even being in denial that he'd abused her... The timeline certainly sounds like it points to him, along with other things people have pointed out, such as him saying how he thought about bashing her head in with a sledgehammer, and after their breakup, apparently making a video featuring someone who looked just like her, where he apparent beats the life out of her while she's bound in her underwear. * Note: I haven't seen this video, and from the description, choose not to. The fact that a number of people have mentioned it makes me quite concerned... It's normal, perhaps, to be angry when you're "dumped" or something... But fantasizing about killing them? That's not "art", that's disturbed.
Whoops, that's pretty long for a comments section, but I think it's important to consider certain things. I don't think satanism, as you note, is the cause. But that doesn't mean someone isn't ALSO sick, y'know?
The choice of sweater was intentional to indicate "I am totally innocent, believe me because I look it". Casey Anthony was instructed to wear sweaters and blouses too...and look.
Quite the actress isn't she? She's just making it harder for real victims to come forward. If you don't know what I'm talking about, look up all the EVIDENCE, against her in the Brian Warner lawsuit. Impersonating an FBI agent, handing out scripts to other "victims" to follow. This woman is fucking disgusting!
what? you mean the over acting of Amber Heard? Evan - bless her, has been through a lot and clearly doesn't need to over act or act at all, maybe act strong/brave but nothing else, Amber, however, as she clearly has never suffered at the hands of someone who was supposed to love her, had to act and over act she did, and everyone seen through her.
@@Alexandra_Hill yes, really wrote it as an irony, but now reading it after 3 months, does sound like that. I just wanted to point out implicitly to the abysmal differences between both testimonies.
Yes I love stronger women to I'm proud to be married to one. I love Evans work and how talented she is. Iv always ment rapists should get a harder punishment in the court than someone who murders someone cause someone who has been raped has to live with all the feelings and the fear for the rest of the life. And yes you should stand together but don't forget us normal guys we can stand together with you also. Not just because of our strength but our support for what's right. Rapists are the worst scum on the planet same with men that beat or physically abuse women. I'm so proud for all of you that this happened to and that you find the strength and courage to not let them win, never give up there are good guys out there to that would do anything to prevent this from happening.
I"m SO sorry this happened, Rachel. SO proud of you for standing for all of us! Mum finally told us a few months ago...70 years after it happened to her...the first time...she expect us to reject her...it explains why she was so cold and harsh all my childhood and now I no longer feel rejected...just so very sad for her...and pray her burden is somehow lighter and will always stand up for her and love her!
I saw this awhile ago and knew who she had to be talking about. I came back because it was finally confirmed.. love all the support for her on here... BUT all the hate on the accusation videos is disgusting and makes me so sad they are calling her a liar. You stand with Manson? Oh okay.
She is an actress so how do we know she is not acting here..just to get revenge on her ex manson..There are crazy bitter exes out there that would say anything for revenge. Innocent until proven guilty.
@@marilyndoll2929 Acting? Give this woman an Oscar. I don't know anyone who would put so much time and effort into passing a law like this over nothing. Time will tell. It's okay if we disagree if he did or didn't. It's sad on both sides, obviously a lot of people are affected. I liked his music, he's certainly a talented artist. But I dont think she's doing it for any reason besides healing and helping others & I hope nothing like this ever happens to you.
@@fleurdeclementine I agree but he wrote a book many years ago where he admits his terrible behaviour towards women and how he was using his status to do what he wants.he was very open about it.
@@samy.1500 yes sure he's honestly facing on his side the pattern of the dynamic, but the dynamic is also called by the other part who is unconsciously playing a role in it
@@fleurdeclementine she is the victim thats for sure. Pure example-Amber Heard is a narcissistic liar and abuser and compare her testimony to the one of Evan’s. You can see Evan and other Manson’s ex girlfriends are clearly traumatized. When you are a victim of abuse, constantly gaslighted, abused, physcially and emotionally hurt, its pretty clear who is dictating the dynamics. If this was so one dimensional as you say there would be no abuse on the planet. Plus look at so many proof from Manson himself in the interview. Its obvious that what was suppose to be a show for public was actually his true face.
@@ChadWork1 not really. It's about being real victim or not. Amber even stole few lines of Rachel's testemony. She is court certified malicious liar. Nothing authentic about her.
Amber even stole few lines from this testemony. Rachel is distancing herself from her , while she tries to throw herself in the same basket as a Rachel. I do think even Rachel believes that court certified malicious liar
She is so brave. As someone that is of the younger generation, this is so so so inspiring and I thank her for this. Thank you Evan Rachel Wood, you are truly a human superhero.
You do know she’s making it bad for actual victims. I’m sorry all of you are blind to the real picture. The court case hasn’t gone forward for a reason. Chloe’s case was settled; because they knew she was lying. Bianco also came forward and said it’s false, she was lying
As someone who was sexually assaulted by 8 different guys from the age of 14-16, and have been spiked twice and have had two other attempted spikings this really spoke to me. It starts slow and gradual and then by the last time had two men beating me and trying to rape me (one of the guys was a close friends brother) I was just numb to it and instead of fight or flight I just froze. Luckily I was fortunate that they were interrupted by my friend who was crying and yelling at them to stop. When I tried to talk about it with her at a later date she tried to gas light me and said that “nothing happened”. It’s been 5 years since these assaults and I still have never had a partner, had a psychical relationship with anyone and suffer with PTSD. And yet the men who have assaulted me get to continue to live their lives happily, many of whom are/have been in relationships. And yet I am most saddened about the reaction I got from telling those of my assault. Rape and assault is normalised when it shouldn’t be. It is common, but there is nothing normal about it.
It. Takes. Everything. Of your being to speak like she's speaking. It. Takes. Years. Of therapy and motivation and love and learning to speak like she's speaking. 🙏🏻
it must take a herculean strength for her to play Dolores on Westworld. i wouldnt go anywhere near that role having been through what she went through. She's a tough lady.
She does it for the money. Same as she endured abusment , all for the money. Basicly she was selling her body for other man amusment..So we all get what ask for , mostly...
@@kostalazovic5135 what the hell. that role is literally about taking over control upon becoming more aware and reaching a point of consciousness. she takes revenge and tries to create a new, better world. I feel like she chose that role because it resonates with her, not everyone could pull off that powerful acting just for money...
@@kostalazovic5135 Wtf dude no she took all of her suffering and pain and channeled it into this character Dolores who is struggling to be free too She chose this character as a path to guide her pain productively
@@kostalazovic5135 Evan was successful on her own, she didn't need Marilyn Manson's money. Don't accuse people of accepting abuse for money, that very disingenuous and hurtful
Is it Marilyn manson she's talking about? One time I went to this mayhem music festival and manson was playin, I was front row and I couldn't believe how he was hitting his band members and cussing at them. So disappointing.
Love her since "Once and again". She is one of the most beautiful, talented but underated actress in Hollywood. It's shocking and sad to hear someone would have done this to her!!!
Luarue P she is so amazing for being able to play such a variety of characters I supposed she learned from having to cover up with a mask her entire life. (Sexual identity, Molestation etc...) 😢
Watching her talk about how he whispers in her ear "you'll be fine" hurted me... Can't imagine this fear.. How horrible.. She seems very sympathic and nice to me in other videos like interviews etc. No one should go through this
But she's speaks in such general terms. She's refusing to go into details yet is speaking about it with rehearsed lines (multiple videos- same words.) 10 years later. Something isn't adding up especially when she says she didn't realize she was. So is it a Manson says that her memories are being played the wrong way because she's been told otherwise?
"Rape is often more than a few minutes of trauma, but a slow death."
This.
zombievey so true
Murder is the death of the body.
Rape is the death of the spirit.
@Beth black Most women doesn't run not only because of money. That is ONE of the things used to make them stay. We're talking about mental conditioning made by the abuser. They do believe they can't run away, specially if they say they'll kill them. The age is also a big factor. You can't possible now what the hell this people think, feel and believe in this situations. And still even richest ones stay and have trouble trying to get out. The difference is when they do get out the richest ones have more help to get their lifes back on track.
@Beth black You have no idea what you are talking about.
I was not poor, struggling financially but I stayed, I was psychologically abused though not beaten but I stayed, I have a young son to care for but I stayed,
I was not as young as Even, I dont really know about her family situation and I had my families support but I stayed.
I was raped by my husband but it took me months to realize it completely.
By the time I had realized it I moved out, but he moved out first.
I stayed until I couldn't stay anymore.
You shouldn't be so judgemental.
Beth black its Very hard to get out , a lot of women get killed when they try to leave though its also dangerous to stay. You need to time it exactly right and have people with whom to stay or places to hide and also how to cut off information to the abuser etc
Now I understand why her character in Westworld looks so strong and authentic. Her RAGE is REAL
Yes sadly it's all pure emotions
Yo. It’s not about the character that she portray. It’s about her. Evan Rachel. The Woman.
rape is bad....but rachels performance is good. I mean mby you can't have one without the other.
She just read what lawyer prepared for her
Come on, she did naughty pics at the when she was young, then she wanted to live out her bi-sexuality and got coincidentally got pregnant.... ah ok.. she's now really hurt
One of my best friends at University once confided in me that she'd been raped at a young age. I pleaded with her to speak to a psychiatrist about it. She killed herself last year. The psychological wounds never healed for her. R.I.P. EC
No they don't. No matter how hard you try and try...it sticks with you, until as she said...you are just numb. A shell of a person. I am 33 and trying. This is so damn hard. I think I have forgotten it all, then in smells and moments of lucidity they all come flooding back to me. Some things I didn't even know I was coherent for or even had remembered. It is disgusting and cruel what some people do do others, that is what sickens me most.....that the perpetrators may never know the scars they left..or even care. Going about their daily lives thinking it was the past and they were too young to know what they did was wrong and that somehow god forgave them because in their mind they have came to some sort of penance. But no sir. You are not forgiven until you go back and ask for forgiveness in hopes to heal the wounded you left to wither and die.
Lindsay Call my heart goes out to you. Please do what you can for your own mental well-being. I don't know your pain, but I know the world would be worse off without you in it. I don't say this flippantly, you have family and friends who love you and want the best for you. Fight on young lady.
Keiser Sozey That is so awful and tragic. Thank you for trying to help her. You did all you could. Make sure you take care of yourself - and seek help if you need it. All the best to you. 💞
No they never go away. I was kidnapped and held for 3 days..raped and tied down by 3 men I was naked and jumped out of a 2nd storey window to escape. That was in my 20s when I was 16 at a party a guy said he'd show me where the bathroom was then on the way shoved me into a room and raped me. I fought him I bit him kicked him in the face then had to fight for my underwear bc he wanted it as a trophy . People need to realize this happens way too much and start being conscious that survivors are -a cashier,a barista,a stay at home mother,a painter,doctor, teacher, dog Walker. Anyone and everyone
Lindsay call ty for sharing and speaking about this. I still cannot smell certain things without it triggering me. I have night terrors..but I worked my butt off to not let all this own me or PTSD ruin me. Yet I do still double ck windows,doors,etc bc I live alone and the night I was kidnapped was from my bedroom thru the window
@@lindsay644 That is what people don't understand. And because your brain wants to protect you its like you're stuck in a moment in time. You have to live with it. And that's bravery.
Rape is unforgivable and rapists should not be allowed back into civilized society once apprehended and found guilty.
Also, everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
@@ivandankob7112 also there are too many people out there who accuse MM of the same thing. Who accused him years and decades ago.
@@carina-nonbinary I wonder why he was not punished years ago. Ah, he was not PROVEN guilty?
Rape me.. 💙🎵 Kurt Cobain
ah.. sexual attraction..
What about the falsely accused?
She didnt just show up to testify, *she wrote the bill.* A real big damn hero! I hope this gets passed in all 50 ASAP because everyone who has been assaulted deserves to have their rights respected. Live to you all.
Unholy Mephistopheles she doesn’t have to! She’s literally talking about how she was threatened with death? Are you deaf?
Unholy Mephistopheles its Marilyn Manson, it's a well known fact
Her case is well past the statute of limitations. Her accuser himself has admitted to some of what he has done to her. It's Marilyn Manson. He was the older man she dated when she was 18. he's the one that admitted that he was emotionally abusive and said he was going to hurt kill himself or hurt himself if she didn't come back, which he did sit there and cut himself every time she refused to answer his phone calls, he said he had over 150 cuts on his arm and face from it. Her attacker admits he's abusive
@Merle Dixon well known fact and she said she wants to be ready. He admitted to fantasizing and made mv killing her
@Merle Dixon Now she has.
I get why Manson fans are upset. I used to absolutely love this man and his music got me through a lot of things. But the signs that he’s the one talked about are clear, and the things this woman has survived are terrible. Even though it hurts to drop a musician that has got me through a lot, there is no way in hell that I will continue to support and abuser
Have you seen the video here on UA-cam titled Marilyn Manson - website intro. It's literally Manson beating Evan up. Can't believe this has been ignored for so long
@@mirellefritz9862 I have not and I do not want to see it for myself, so I just have to take your word for it. But even if this video didn’t exist the signs would still be obvious
@@rebbi8548 I understand and respect your decision to not watch. And yes, the signs were always there, but I guess for me, Manson blurred the line between shock value and his real life. Perhaps intentionally, so no one would believe future victims.
@@mirellefritz9862 I feel the same way. Not just when it comes to intimate partner violence. There have been so many people that Manson has seriously hurt for no reason, all because he “is a shock rocker” I think we have made too many excuses for that kind of behavior
She's a liar. Lol
WOW. This woman is incredibly eloquent, courageous, and strong. THANK YOU, Evan.
She didn't write that.
@@Ryan-kf6xu wow. You would know about it, right?
Keep it to yourself, please.
Yes, Ms.Wood has class.
@@Ryan-kf6xu She wrote that.
@@luh8389 could you please be quiet and mind your business please and thanks
“I was not fine, I am not fine”
I'm most surprised about that other attacker saying "you're going to be fine, you're going to be fine"; that's a complex psychology.
@@theDudeAbid3s she must have been scared to death and perhaps the attacker felt a tiny bit bad for it.. telling her fine is extremely condescending since he was assaulting her thats anything but fine
@@kimmyfreak200 yeah, to me that's the interesting part though calling it condescension seems weird, like it was a debate forum or something
Gonna need this on a t shirt
@@theDudeAbid3s guilt. He felt guilt. Not enough.
I've had trauma patients tell me that it's not just the traumatic event, but how people react to it that traumatizes them. They bring their painful story to light, making themselves vulnerable, and people struggle with the difficult emotions and speculate on the truthfulness of the story or the character of the one who tells it. There is no other crime, where the character or behavior of the victim comes into question, rather than that of the perpetrator. We need to stop throwing rocks at the victims, punishing them for the things that have happened, as it is so disorienting to someone who has lost their trust to see a world that refuses to accept them or help them. We need to stop saying that only monsters rape, that if victims are so common that they are our family members, teachers, doctors and police officers, that surely the perpetrators can also be family members, teachers, doctors, and police officers. If we stop looking for monsters and start looking for human beings, then both the victims and those that support the victims can make sense of the crimes that occur everyday in our homes, our locker rooms, our classrooms and anywhere else trust exists.
Thank you for this. I can say as someone who has been through this and can agree with you 100% this is the worst thing about telling people your story. The way people look at you and blame you as if it is your fault. They struggle to understand why and how and do attach blame and negativity towards you (ie me) or the " victim". It is a disgusting sickness in society that people choose to look at situations of people's pain and torment, not with understand or empathy, but analytic criticism and blame. This world lacks empathy everywhere, and I believe this has a lot to do with what's wrong with the world. This is why I rather suffer in silence than have my pride and integrity taken away again. It feels like a continuation of the abuse.
Well said. Who are you?
@@Payton35001 I think it's terrible that you feel you can't go to anyone. Maybe the safest approach is to start by telling people that you have trauma without explaining the nature of the trauma. People don't have to know the details to heal you, and you don't have to tell every doctor or therapist everything every time. It's unreasonable for people to expect you to divulge something as personal as that on the first encounter or for a routine physical exam.
Sad thing is the those who are ardently self-professed victims are far too often narcissists looking for attention, and true victims of trauma, unfortunately, tend to struggle silently, either through fear, or fear and 'macho' repression, man or woman, further cultivating neuroses.
@@HoganplyPersonality disorders can be difficult to treat. Unfortunately, I find that personality disorders and substance abusers tend to be vulnerable populations with higher exposures to trauma, even as these populations are often the source of trauma for others. It's so important to treat victims, so that they don't become perpetrators. We have prisons full of people who take turns being both.
There needs to be stronger legislation for the falsely accused.
Illma gore was the worst mistake of ur life not MM
True, now she needs to rewrite her past once again, this time about hooking up with a new monster, Illma!
So proud of her to talk about it
For what?
She is reading off a script... What about Edward Norton???
Her husband said this is bullshit
If she has been acting since 5 years old, she was likely targeted for abuse even before Manson. Wood is incredibly brave to share her traumatic experiences to improve society.
When she was young she was terrified, it was Brian Hugh Warner
Terrible. I would never have a child or teen in the modeling or acting business.
@@firenze5555 there’s a scene in Bruno where Sasha Baron Cohen is running a fake modeling agency looking for babies and he’s asking the parents if they would be ok with long lists of awful and/or dangerous things that he wants to subject the babies to for his shoots and the parents just readily agree to all of it.
I find it hard to believe those people are real parents willing to subject their babies to this just for money and fame and yet they are. Why anyone would want their child to be an actor or model until they’re old enough to want it on their own is beyond me
@@Kyle_The_Mighty It's also putting children in adult situations and adult deadlines and pressures having a job. And then there's the very real threat of assault as there is little supervision and it doesn't take long to assault a person, especially a vulnerable child. A parent would have to be with their child every single second in that situation. Not worth it.
@@firenze5555 agreed. I think it’s time to just use cgi kids in movies. I’ll sacrifice the “realism” for child safety (and especially their psychological safety). I get that won’t work for small budget indie movies but if a studio that could afford that did that, I would pay to see that movie just on principle
It pisses me off that many people still say things like "Why didn't they come forward sooner?". It takes a very long time/process for victims to get to that stage and it is a very normal textbook behavior. Perhaps all kids should be taught about the psychology of abusive relationships at early age so that we can prevent them from falling into one. Most of us don't know much about abusive relationships growing up, and relationships in general are way too romanticized by movies. So when we are actually in the position of being abused, we get confused and can't even recognize it as abuse. Having prior knowledge would help enormously.
In February 2018 and in April 2019, Wood gave sworn testimony before the U.S.
Congress and the California State Senate in support ofproposed legislation with which she and the
Phoenix Act were affiliated. She testified that she had been raped once by a significant other and
again "by another attacker after hours at a bar," but she did not name either ofthem.
16. Around this time, Wood and Gore conspired about how Wood and others could
accuse Warner of abuse. Days before her testimony to the California State Senate, Wood
incorporated the Phoenix Act. She serves as its CEO, CFO, and corporate secretary. Gore has
been employed by the Phoenix Act since approximately 2019.
17. Since at least 2019, Gore has been mired in significant financial troubles. For
example, her family members have presented evidence that Gore committed crimes ofidentity
theft by opening credit card accounts in the names of her twin sister and deceased mother; and
borrowed money from an elderly family member under false pretenses, claiming that it was to
assist with the purchase of a house, which Gore never carried out. Gore wrote in a notebook left
with her family that her goal of being involved with the Phoenix Act was to "make money"
yes, she is talking about Marilyn Manson. as someone who has admired Manson's work, I do not and never will stand by him and his work again. thank you Wood, for talking about your experiences. It's so hard to even tell a loved one about moments of abuse.
Really, she said before it was him?
Oh god, that makes me sick, how can he, or anyone, do something like this?
@@foxtrotecho9530 the time of the abuse fits perfectly to the time Wood and Warner were dating. she has not made it public for the fear of what the consequences could be.
@MB thanx for all the info, I've read some other infos too, is all very sad. I'm glad that at least they are better now (I hope they continue this way) and that they are not keeping all this inside of them anymore...
Why everybody assumes it was Manson? She dated a good number of other people...
Osvaldo Gil i’d assume it was him because of the timelapse
This makes me laugh to be honest. Y’all don’t follow the cases. Ever see the iPad that they used to make the plans? It’s all coming to light. Evan will be shut down.
The statutes need extended for the falsely acoused too.
When she said "Being raped previously made it easier for me to be raped again, not the other way around" I felt that.. I felt all of this. It's impossible to deny that her allegations are true, because one doesn't speak like this about it without actually experiencing it.
She may have been raped, but it’s pretty clear it wasn’t by Manson. Just because she says the right things, doesn’t make it true. Give me one shred of proof.. I’ll wait..
@@mikehunt7360 you can wait forever - I don't argue with internet trolls about rape. You're welcome to show proof that it's not true, but if you won't do that then I think I will continue to commend her for coming forward and sharing her experiences.
@@sbcumb238 Sorry, this comment was relevant 4 months ago.. troll.
@@sillyxostar Mike is salty because his mommy raped him...aww poor baby...
NO SYMPOTHY FOR IDIOTS THAT GET INTO A RELATIONSHIP WITH A WELL KNOWN FREAK LIKE MANSON AND THEN CRIES RAPE JUST FOR KUDOS ALL I CAN SAY IS MORE FOOL YOU FOR NOT ENDING IT GETTING RID AND CALLING THE COPS! YOU MADE UR BED YOU FUCKING LAY IN IT 'AS THEY SAY! :/
*Manson is a sleaze.* She's NOT his only victim & he walks *free.*
I don't think she is talking about him, he dated Rose McGowan too she is very outspoken about sexual abuse and she never called him out.
@@nad0862 - She met him at 20 & had a decade-long relationship. She says it was a long-term relationship. *She wasn't with anyone else.* Do the math.
@Bill - The math I *just* laid-out above. *Sound-out the words if you must.*
@Bill - *Troll much Captain Lonely?*
I've always loved his music but agree on the fact that he should be persecuted if it is him.
For those in the back his name is MARILYN MANSON.
Brian Hugh Warner
The great antichrist superstar 🤟
The one and only
She is a liar. #istandwithmanson
@@gayfrogs4206 he isnt great... hes horrible
Put her in jail for lying about writing a
Fake FBI letter
She is a hero, brave... I wish her success and happiness.
Olive Papyrus no hero... She is woman much powerful than any super hero... She is devi, (fighter godessl
Well, this aged like milk with all the proof of her lies coming out…Great acting though.
Exactly. She’s as stupid as her character in ‘Thirteen’.
So this is a girl that actually dated Marilyn Manson, but we're supposed to be led to believe that this is the way she dresses? She's currently putting on a show for Congress, and if she someone that dated Marilyn Manson, she's probably little more edgier then she's putting off to everyone. Forgive me if I'm a little skeptical
Maybe you find out more before being skeptical out of ignorance next time
Of course. It's inappropriate to dress casually in a court room. She is dressed in what is appropriate for the situation.
The tying her up to prove her loyalty sounds a lot like Manson, read his autobiography in this regard .
What book and passage or chapter
Respectfully, the LAST thing I'd do is look at anything that comes from his mind.
@@adamturner1563 Did you not watch this video...... or hear the numerous women speaking out against him now..??
@@adamturner1563 yeah, jealousy definitely makes you suicidal, suuuure. Maybe that's true for you. Sucks that abusive assholes have to take accountability for their actions, hm? Btw, I was a fan. Not anymore.
Read what you just said.
Its SUPPOSED to sound like manson, because she carefully studied up on him to a T to make sure her story sounds legit. So of course she read that book..she was obsessed with him.
Posing as an FBI investigator is not a good luck Ma'am. If you are discrediting actual survivors, like me, then you are stealing from people who deserve to believed.
amazing strength so sorry this happened to her
So sorry this happened to anybody...
As a victim of abuse myself, I will just say this,… “ERW is a lying & conniving ‘Psycho !!!
It’s beyond obvious how contrived & rehearsed this BS is 🙄 *Unbelievable 🤮
My God. Shes been through hell. Hope she finds her own joy at some point.
she expresses how hard it is to deal with the PSTD
Oh really...? But you dont seem to have any problem using a provocative photo for your avatar.....?
Why is it that the biggest portion of women who seem to enjoy sharing their rape stories,
Also like to portray themselves as sexually adventurous?
I wish we could treat ourselves like children and say, “I didn’t know what was happening, but it hurt me and I wanted to stop. I wasn’t saying no because I was afraid, insecure and inexperienced. I didn’t say “yes” or “please do this”, even though I didn’t say “stop.” We need protection, laws and avenues for eliminating abuse. Period. Stop.
The coping brain doesn't work that way, I'm afraid. We _do_ have protection and laws. Trauma is just such a complex crime, with so little demonstrable evidence, especially of the emotional sort, that the necessary legal process is made unspeakably daunting. Avenues, however, for curtailing abuse, such as social programs, should be _a lot_ better funded. Quesiton is...how.
As a survivor of sexual abuse myself, a lot of my grounding now in healing and recovering as best as I can comes in that form. Talking to the version of myself that was lost during the abuse and telling her she is safe and she is protected now. Granted, I was a child when it all happened but telling that version of myself that she is safe and that I am proud of her and am grateful she didn’t give up and that I will protect her eases my mind enough to fall asleep or continue on with my day
ok but going out with a guy who looks like him? you cannot be THAT childish as an adult. walking right into that? seriously? talk about dead giveaway... jesus....
Ricardo Santos you cant possibly think that you can know someone will abuse you by how they look. A lot of abusers look “normal” while say Alice Cooper looked scary but didn’t do what Marilyn Manson did. Other people at that time were dressing up as a character in bands of that style but that doesn’t mean they embrace abuse. Goth doesn’t equal absolute immoral conscience.
@@dg12317 have you heard about better safe than sorry? You know it is something adults do.
That's a professional actor right there!
This won't age well after her days in court
I was sexually assaulted when I was 13 by a man in his mid 40's and the few times I go into detail about it, I don't make it poetic like this. It sounds similar to Amber's testimony. I'm not sure about this. I'm not saying she's lying or that he's guilty. Definitely have to wait until evidence comes out. Right now I've read things about FBI impersonation and scripts being handed out, so not sure what to think right now.
Amber definitely took few pointers from her testemony. Panic attacks, rules around intimate partners, waking up and screaming. Rachel sounds believable amber is court certified liar. I will wait for the court and evidence
Why does she seems like she wrote a poetic scenario and that she’s acting the role? Do the victims of domestic violence have this way of telling their experiences? She doesn’t sounds real to me. I can’t wait to see her prove all that she claims.
that's what trauma will do to you. try to talk about it without breaking down. show some empathy!
She is so brave. I hope she knows how many women she’s helped just by hearing her put words to a feeling that many can’t begin to describe
Keep in mind she is a drama queen actor who knows how to read a script and turn it into a greek tragedy.
You believe whatever she peddles from a bias.
Even if he is guilty of a few things, she is no better. Her argument is way too one sided.
But likely all it is, is that she is jealous over a breakup and realizes she is losing benefits.
Oh oh. She might be lying.
Imagine how it must be like for that guy to see his former victim being strong, thriving, furious and out to get him. And also going public about it.
Imagine how destroying a whole mans career just cause she's bitter without any evidence yet..We cant just get on her side without evidence.Ive seen alot of innocent men go to jail just for an accusation from a woman.
@@marilyndoll2929 Marilyn Manson doesn't care about you personally, he'll never even know your name, and being a pick-me wouldn't make you look any special in his eyes.
@@marilyndoll2929 how pathetic that you care more about his career than what he put her through, she made this statement years ago, so you think she's been lying for years? You are just blind!
@@valeriaives1135 your pathetic pfff
@@marilyndoll2929 Imagine u saying something like that and not being able to see her dedication to this cause, and her strength of character. Imagine u thinking she should worry about his damned career.
That was intense, I never would have guessed that she had gone through that hell. Wish I had her strength.
Unfortunately that's how it can go for some survivors. We convince ourselves that what happened could have been worse and that it's not a huge deal, then put on a brave face and return to society. I can't tell you how many times I've heard those exact words.
You do have her strength. We all do!! Guys included. It happens to all genders. I myself have been a survivor of several different abusers, in so many different forms. And, it's taken me over a decade but now finally now I speak. I actually am in the process now of writing "My Life Story." In which I will name no names at all, as I do not feel that is necessary for my story, but I will discuss details. This happens everywhere, not just "Hollywood." You are brave. Walk in that.❤
She didnt go through anything.
Youre just siding with her out of a general hatred for Manson because youre a sheep.
She's incredibly strong to be able to talk about what she went through so openly, even though she is clearly having real trouble getting it out. On top of which, she looks as though she might break into tears at any moment, but she holds it together to make a point. Breaking down while testifying would only harm the cause, a very sad truth. I knew she'd spent time in a Psychiatric hospital, but not that this was why. Horrifying is a very quiet way of putting it. I admire her not just for her talents as a performer, but because she's willing to stand up and be counted. And she's only just past 30 with all of this behind her...
I wish she say his name soon so he can get his punishment
I also found the image of her (in the pink dress) and manson out on may 25th which is her birthday as described on her instagram. So awful. Now I feel terrible for supporting his music all of these years.
I think I know
may m.lotfi Marilyn Manson
@Sequoiah Dreams agree
She is sadly not legally allowed to say it.
Heartbreaking. May she experience complete healing and may her persecutors meet with justice.
Brian Hugh Warner
She can’t, the statue of limitation for her ended over a decade ago. As she points out even if the Phoenix Act is put into law it still won’t go far enough back to let her abuser get arrested let alone prosecuted.
@@gateauxq4604 God i seriously hope that changes
I’m not sure why people feel the need to protect/defend Marilyn Manson - the man DOESN’T care about you. He used his power you helped him obtain by buying his music, books, going to shows etc. and used it to leverage power over countless women! If he truly was this misunderstood guy exacting revenge for his misunderstood fans, he’d use his power to fight against gods guns and government - he instead decided to buy tons of coke and abuse and rape women... he literally SPAT in your faces... so let him go. Listen to his music if you must but he is not a good man
Very well said. I love his music but I cant respect, love or support him. I used to look up to him when I was young but as I got older I was starting to see red flags.
@@Chrisjbennett89 I also had that fan’s ‘intuition’ and saw the red flags. It’s strange that so many of his fans stopped listening /supporting him too, it’s like we somehow knew.
@@toriorourke6702 I’m ashamed to admit I’m not part of that. I just stopped listening because for years his albums have been mediocre at best and based on UA-cam videos I’ve seen, his concerts were an embarrassment. But I still didn’t see him as this kind of person. I got that the act wasn’t 100% an act and that he was definitely not someone I would want to be friends with, but that’s a far cry from what she described. Obviously I was wrong
Why should he care? Nobody owes anything to anyone. The guy is making music, if you like it you buy it. That's simple. And didn't you know by the way there's no such a thing as good and bad people?
His music sounds ugly to me now.
“I am heartbroken for Kobe’s family. He was a sports hero. He was also a rapist. And all of these truths can exist simultaneously.”~~Evan Rachel Wood tweeted the day Koby Bryant died
But like is she wrong?
She's right
Marilyn Manson is the high profile relationship she has had and she has never come out and said it wasn’t him so I think that screams volumes
Tasha Vladimiroff Wow. May I ask what happened?
it is definitely him, she just can't name him yet for legal reasons
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess what Marilyn Manson? That dude wow!!!
@@supertrendymoneymaker0722 He's screwed up in the head!
@@Goodmorningyouall Cause since it's a serious accusation she can't name him without being prepared for legal battle with him, and having evidences. She was probably advised by a lawyer
As a victim of domestic violence myself I don't understand why it's taken this long for her to come forward? I am not calling her a fake but she is an actor and this looks like she's actually acting? I honestly didn't know who she was until this court case? Now she is more famous than ever? I have many questions all because she never reported this after her break-up with Manson? So many things just don't add up? This situation is so messy and especially after the Amber Heard situation? Its very hard to believe actor's like this? Especially when there's drugs involved too....
There are 4 other alleged "victims" all, when the statute of limitations deadline was approaching that all said they had repressed memories of abuse, all on que.
I'd suggest looking up the channel Colonel Kurt's.
She has been following this from the beginning.
ERW is another fake DV victim that hatched this plan with the help of another woman (I don't recall her name)
This woman cold called, (emailed), women who were exes and got them to get together on a ZOOM call.
She produced a fabricated FBI report complete with an actual an FBI agents forged name, and essentially said, "see, MM is under investigation by the FBI - He's bad guy. Sue him and its easy money."
This is another #metoo hoax.
But watch some vids of ERW and see if you can't see something.
When describing her relationship, notice how often she does what AH did in the interview last Friday.
She'll go from him or me, to a generalized statement using you or they pronouns.
Not staying with he did this
He did that.
Or
I did this or that.
She's just another Amber 💩
I agree. Innocent until proven guilty. Learnt a hard way. She sounds more believable than amber. I only noticed amber stole few lines from her too. Few women came out to accuse manson. By 2 or 3 witnesses truth shall be established. Amber is 100% liar. Nothing authentic about that vile woman
She's so brave to come forward so candidly and I'm so proud and thankful to her for facilitating these conversations and using her voice to give other women a platform. I'm so so proud of her bravery and she continues to amaze me, she is truly an amazing woman.
Who is this female celebrity who run a charity for abused women and lied all about her own abuse? I can't remember... was her name Amber or Evan?
Evan Amber Wood?
Isn't perjury jailable?
That's why she isn't in jail. Everything she has ever said is true and she has the proof to back it all up.
She is such a liar…. This was thrown out in the current court case. Her lies and deceit are being bought to the surface. She’s a good actor…… remember amber heard! 😅
This was her testifying in order to pass the Phoenix Act, so that she could later prosecute Manson... which now, suspiciously, she doesn't want to do. He's trying to take her to court but the CA legal system is now making it very difficult for ANY 'accused abuser' to even defend themselves in a defamation trial. Wood wanted a trial by media so she could spin stories without providing a shred of evidence, and it worked for a while. Even her schlockumentary uses every political smear trick in the book. She's a disgusting human being. I'm sick that I even halfway bought her story for a hot minute.
And Diddy Too
This just breaks my heart.
Love her man. MM man I use to look up to him so much too. Foolish me. So sorry for this but she seems strong as hell. She’s a survivor
@@adamturner1563 I agree!
@@adamturner1563 shut up with the cancel culture dumbass - MM had a chance to speak up and he abruptly cut off an interview recently when he was asked for his side. Hes a rich and powerful man and had tons of PR and assistants he can tell his side ANY time... rapists and abusers SHOULD be cancelled. “She liked it” well, usually when you like something and it’s consent you don’t write a bill and go in front of state legislature to try helping victims. He befriended these women built their trust, he used his fame to his advantage. Geez, you are so dumb. Stop idolizing MM
@@toriorourke6702 nail on the head.
Adam Turner He himself stated that he daydreamed about smashing her head in with a sledgehammer. He raped her while she was waking up from lack of consciousness and told her he could kill her. Is that acceptable in your book just because he's a shock rocker? Really?
Innocent until proven guilty..ill wait before judging MM..Woman can do these type of accusations and find it very believable um sorry but im not that dumb..Ill wait for a Trial..people dont understand that some people can do this for revenge and not question there motives.
Another Amber Heard. She's lied so much. 🙄
I wouldn't like to compare her to amber, amber is a cold blooded, vile human no emotion. Even is quite soulful. I will wait for court and the verdict
@@oneway1119 it’s all an act, you’ll see !!!
Her name is LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSER!!!!!!!!!!
As per my conclusion, if it happened about a decade ago with a steady partner over a length of time then it could be none other than Marilyn Manson. And it has nothing to do with MM's facade rather just based on the facts in this testimonial.
Satanist do not commit ritual abuse. That's a lie made up by Christians. One they've use to demonize nearly every religion outside their own. Pagans anyone? Satanists actually respect all life. Most Levayists are even vegetarians. As for blaming Manson: "I wouldn’t trade any of [our relationship]," Wood told Net-a-Porter’s The Edit in August 2015. "I appreciate everything he taught me. I just don’t think we were right for each other." But yeah "facts" and "satan". Lol
Pink Nosebleed I agree about the satanism part. However, the comments about the ex aren't proof.
She mentioned she was raped a decade ago, but didn't get professional therapy and the chronic PTSD diagnosis until seven years after the rapes. That puts it roughly around three years ago that she got help, and likely began to recognize much of the abuse for what it truly was. Being hit is much easier to see as abuse than when you're being emotionally, psychologically manipulated in cruel, violent ways.
It's also very true that people defend their abusers, even when police are called because a partner is being beaten, etc... But by the time police arrive, or the next day, they decline to press charges - recanting their stories to the police (who SAW the aftermath)... Because they "love them". (Also why more and more places have enacted laws where the police can proceed with these charges, after seeing repeat abusers beating the crap out of their partners, and then threatening them if the proceed with charges and/or that they're "sorry, baby; I'll never do it again!" etc...).
IF it's Manson, she may well still have been in that cloud of needing to protect him, fearing him, even being in denial that he'd abused her...
The timeline certainly sounds like it points to him, along with other things people have pointed out, such as him saying how he thought about bashing her head in with a sledgehammer, and after their breakup, apparently making a video featuring someone who looked just like her, where he apparent beats the life out of her while she's bound in her underwear. *
Note: I haven't seen this video, and from the description, choose not to. The fact that a number of people have mentioned it makes me quite concerned... It's normal, perhaps, to be angry when you're "dumped" or something... But fantasizing about killing them? That's not "art", that's disturbed.
Whoops, that's pretty long for a comments section, but I think it's important to consider certain things.
I don't think satanism, as you note, is the cause. But that doesn't mean someone isn't ALSO sick, y'know?
They constantly break up and back again..You can see
I agree. Didnt he make a video where he hired a lookalike to kill her?
Marilyn Manson must pay for this.
No it’s hot
@@solaria5513 your parents must be proud of you.
@@yoursicksecret why would anyone care about what their parents have to say about anything? let alone try to "make them proud" .....
@@solaria5513 What, exactly, do you think is 'hot' about his potential crimes?
@@solaria5513 you are so sick
That's my story... addiction, agoraphobia, distrust of men, people... PTSD...thank God I have my dogs...I'd be dead without them.
Facts
Exactly mine as well
Truth 💯
Stop wearing cardigans when ever your talking about manson
Lmfao right?
The choice of sweater was intentional to indicate "I am totally innocent, believe me because I look it". Casey Anthony was instructed to wear sweaters and blouses too...and look.
Quite the actress isn't she? She's just making it harder for real victims to come forward. If you don't know what I'm talking about, look up all the EVIDENCE, against her in the Brian Warner lawsuit. Impersonating an FBI agent, handing out scripts to other "victims" to follow. This woman is fucking disgusting!
makes me remember the deposition of another actress claiming some facts in the same neighborhood
what? you mean the over acting of Amber Heard? Evan - bless her, has been through a lot and clearly doesn't need to over act or act at all, maybe act strong/brave but nothing else, Amber, however, as she clearly has never suffered at the hands of someone who was supposed to love her, had to act and over act she did, and everyone seen through her.
@@Alexandra_Hill yes, really wrote it as an irony, but now reading it after 3 months, does sound like that. I just wanted to point out implicitly to the abysmal differences between both testimonies.
I love her, so much. I love powerful women! We need to stand together. We need to support each other
Yes I love stronger women to I'm proud to be married to one. I love Evans work and how talented she is. Iv always ment rapists should get a harder punishment in the court than someone who murders someone cause someone who has been raped has to live with all the feelings and the fear for the rest of the life. And yes you should stand together but don't forget us normal guys we can stand together with you also. Not just because of our strength but our support for what's right. Rapists are the worst scum on the planet same with men that beat or physically abuse women. I'm so proud for all of you that this happened to and that you find the strength and courage to not let them win, never give up there are good guys out there to that would do anything to prevent this from happening.
There's no words to describe the great hatred and discust I have for you lying feminist pigs.
I really hope Manson rots in jail
Who went here after her Instagram post?
How much did counseling influence what she is saying? Was she in recoverd memories type counseling?
I"m SO sorry this happened, Rachel. SO proud of you for standing for all of us! Mum finally told us a few months ago...70 years after it happened to her...the first time...she expect us to reject her...it explains why she was so cold and harsh all my childhood and now I no longer feel rejected...just so very sad for her...and pray her burden is somehow lighter and will always stand up for her and love her!
Emma MacGregor I pray you become closer and that you make up for lost time
Crazy to think she was talking about Marilyn Manson this whole time....
why is it crazy? crazy and disgusting that he finds this behavior a sexual and emotional outlet at the expense of others.
Yes...
Now she is accused of imitating an FBI agent. She's a good actress.
Liar
I saw this awhile ago and knew who she had to be talking about. I came back because it was finally confirmed.. love all the support for her on here... BUT all the hate on the accusation videos is disgusting and makes me so sad they are calling her a liar. You stand with Manson? Oh okay.
She is an actress so how do we know she is not acting here..just to get revenge on her ex manson..There are crazy bitter exes out there that would say anything for revenge. Innocent until proven guilty.
@@marilyndoll2929 Acting? Give this woman an Oscar. I don't know anyone who would put so much time and effort into passing a law like this over nothing. Time will tell. It's okay if we disagree if he did or didn't. It's sad on both sides, obviously a lot of people are affected. I liked his music, he's certainly a talented artist. But I dont think she's doing it for any reason besides healing and helping others & I hope nothing like this ever happens to you.
@@marilyndoll2929 it’s disappointing you would side with a potential rapist and abuser, instead of a potential liar.
So today we know for sure this was about Manson.
well I would say that there are always both parts playing in any interraction dynamic!
@@fleurdeclementine I agree but he wrote a book many years ago where he admits his terrible behaviour towards women and how he was using his status to do what he wants.he was very open about it.
@@samy.1500 yes sure he's honestly facing on his side the pattern of the dynamic, but the dynamic is also called by the other part who is unconsciously playing a role in it
@@fleurdeclementine don’t blame the victims
@@fleurdeclementine she is the victim thats for sure. Pure example-Amber Heard is a narcissistic liar and abuser and compare her testimony to the one of Evan’s. You can see Evan and other Manson’s ex girlfriends are clearly traumatized. When you are a victim of abuse, constantly gaslighted, abused, physcially and emotionally hurt, its pretty clear who is dictating the dynamics. If this was so one dimensional as you say there would be no abuse on the planet. Plus look at so many proof from Manson himself in the interview. Its obvious that what was suppose to be a show for public was actually his true face.
Marilyn is innocent. Period
I wouldn't rush into conclusions
NOTHING has been done to my abuser. Thank you for speaking out Evan
Firsts there was Amber's story and the damage it caused. Evan is next to get her story scrutinized legally.
I'd put money on Wood doing a lot better in court than Heard
@@yardengali probably so. She’s had the opportunity to study Heard’s mistakes.
@@ChadWork1 not really. It's about being real victim or not. Amber even stole few lines of Rachel's testemony. She is court certified malicious liar. Nothing authentic about her.
Amber even stole few lines from this testemony. Rachel is distancing herself from her , while she tries to throw herself in the same basket as a Rachel. I do think even Rachel believes that court certified malicious liar
"Rape is often more than a few minutes of trauma, but a slow death." Amen
She just reading what is written... 😂 😂 Is this a script
She is so brave. As someone that is of the younger generation, this is so so so inspiring and I thank her for this. Thank you Evan Rachel Wood, you are truly a human superhero.
I definitely agree.. her words are powerful and i agree.. its a slow death, especially without getting the help needed to heal.
You do know she’s making it bad for actual victims. I’m sorry all of you are blind to the real picture. The court case hasn’t gone forward for a reason. Chloe’s case was settled; because they knew she was lying. Bianco also came forward and said it’s false, she was lying
All of her stories on the gram, scream raving narcissist
When a person, any person is violated, it lasts a lifetime.
“If we have to live through it you have to live to hear it” so powerful
She should win an award for this acting.
Thank you for speaking out, I’m a survivor of abuse, I’ve suffered many of the same problems.
As someone who was sexually assaulted by 8 different guys from the age of 14-16, and have been spiked twice and have had two other attempted spikings this really spoke to me. It starts slow and gradual and then by the last time had two men beating me and trying to rape me (one of the guys was a close friends brother) I was just numb to it and instead of fight or flight I just froze. Luckily I was fortunate that they were interrupted by my friend who was crying and yelling at them to stop. When I tried to talk about it with her at a later date she tried to gas light me and said that “nothing happened”. It’s been 5 years since these assaults and I still have never had a partner, had a psychical relationship with anyone and suffer with PTSD. And yet the men who have assaulted me get to continue to live their lives happily, many of whom are/have been in relationships. And yet I am most saddened about the reaction I got from telling those of my assault. Rape and assault is normalised when it shouldn’t be. It is common, but there is nothing normal about it.
She’s a fookin hero
His name is Marilyn Manson.
I don't think she met MM at aged of 13? She was abused before him too. Apparently
It. Takes. Everything. Of your being to speak like she's speaking. It. Takes. Years. Of therapy and motivation and love and learning to speak like she's speaking. 🙏🏻
Recommendations hit the nail on the head with this one
it must take a herculean strength for her to play Dolores on Westworld. i wouldnt go anywhere near that role having been through what she went through. She's a tough lady.
She does it for the money. Same as she endured abusment , all for the money. Basicly she was selling her body for other man amusment..So we all get what ask for , mostly...
@@kostalazovic5135 what the hell. that role is literally about taking over control upon becoming more aware and reaching a point of consciousness. she takes revenge and tries to create a new, better world. I feel like she chose that role because it resonates with her, not everyone could pull off that powerful acting just for money...
@@kostalazovic5135
Wtf dude no she took all of her suffering and pain and channeled it into this character Dolores who is struggling to be free too
She chose this character as a path to guide her pain productively
@@kostalazovic5135 Evan was successful on her own, she didn't need Marilyn Manson's money. Don't accuse people of accepting abuse for money, that very disingenuous and hurtful
Is it Marilyn manson she's talking about? One time I went to this mayhem music festival and manson was playin, I was front row and I couldn't believe how he was hitting his band members and cussing at them. So disappointing.
Yep its him
Please!! i been to his concerts never seen anything like that
@@angelicalyn6520 You may not have seen it happen, but it has happened.
Love her since "Once and again". She is one of the most beautiful, talented but underated actress in Hollywood. It's shocking and sad to hear someone would have done this to her!!!
Loved her since Digging to China!
Luarue P she is so amazing for being able to play such a variety of characters I supposed she learned from having to cover up with a mask her entire life. (Sexual identity, Molestation etc...) 😢
She is not the characters she plays in films.
And what you see here is no less of an act.
Why didn’t she call 911?
are you dumb?
@@floppyflopflop_ are u
Okay but the fact that she acted in westworld where william abuse her... man now that i know about this it hurts
" All this pain, so that they can patch a hole in their own broken code."
Liar, liar, liar. ERW is a liar!
Watching her talk about how he whispers in her ear "you'll be fine" hurted me... Can't imagine this fear.. How horrible.. She seems very sympathic and nice to me in other videos like interviews etc. No one should go through this
If we should have to live through it, you should have to hear it. ☑️
But she's speaks in such general terms. She's refusing to go into details yet is speaking about it with rehearsed lines (multiple videos- same words.) 10 years later. Something isn't adding up especially when she says she didn't realize she was. So is it a Manson says that her memories are being played the wrong way because she's been told otherwise?
That is ridiculous and NO therapist would say such a thing. I was taught to not give people nightmares.
She rushes because she's lieing. She didn't plan on doing this
So lying,… so looking forward to watching her take the stand 🤡