My FIRST ZWIFT RACE

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  • Опубліковано 7 кві 2020
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    ALEX
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    CHANEL
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 279

  • @VanLifeTriathlon
    @VanLifeTriathlon 4 роки тому +295

    “Some would call it the Cameron Jeffers bike” 😂😂😂

  • @shanew634
    @shanew634 4 роки тому +93

    I loved the on screen comment “If Alex Dowsett has been dropped, what hope is there for us plebes”. Thanks for sharing, enjoyed it.👍

  • @NorCalCycling
    @NorCalCycling 4 роки тому +75

    "It's not a race, it's more like a ramp test". My thoughts exactly! glad you feel the same, I'm in good company.

    • @silverarrowslk
      @silverarrowslk 4 роки тому +3

      NorCal Cycling Its a great training tool

    • @supermitendo9654
      @supermitendo9654 2 роки тому

      @@silverarrowslk It’s great for fitness building/maintaining, but not a real world bike training tool

  • @1989srjones
    @1989srjones 4 роки тому +237

    Alex aged about 30 years during that race 😂

    • @ian3893
      @ian3893 4 роки тому

      Stephen Jones he might have done if it was a race, a lot of the group riders would be riding a cat or two down just to say they finished first.... It’s only a group ride !!!!

  • @TriathlonDan
    @TriathlonDan 4 роки тому +95

    ‘I’ve no idea how sprint finishes work in the pro tour’ 😂😂

    • @stephinmerrit
      @stephinmerrit 10 місяців тому +1

      I think he should try a real zwift race, this was just the tour of watopia 😴

  • @chazpilks
    @chazpilks 4 роки тому +28

    “Some would call it the Cameron Jeffers bike”...I smiled, almost as much as the sprinting comment

  • @CritWhit
    @CritWhit 4 роки тому +30

    Thx for sharing. It was marvelous to see a Renowned PRO attack their first Zwift race as so many are coming to the platform to include myself (not a PRO). Nice vid to watch seeing also that you have the same struggles as many of us. Thx!!! Looking forward to the next one!!! 🕊

  • @mitchcallihan4978
    @mitchcallihan4978 4 роки тому +2

    Great watch...loved it! It’s tough to just jump in without fully knowing the strategies that are used in Zwift. So cool that you just did it! Keep it up!

  • @n9jnm
    @n9jnm 4 роки тому +2

    Loved it Alex ! We’re all in the same boat so great to see a pro ‘s take on it. Would love to see more of you zwift racing

  • @Road2Glory
    @Road2Glory 4 роки тому +4

    Great to see you race on the platform Alex. It's super tough getting used to the difference between road and Zwift, but after a few races you really get it dialed in and it becomes more fun. :).

  • @MannBazza
    @MannBazza 4 роки тому +1

    You two are by far my favourite watch on YT. Chanel is bloody hilarious 🤪

  • @penguindh
    @penguindh 4 роки тому

    Really appreciate you posting this Alex. Can't be easy as a pro to post races where you don't podium. Great humility.

  • @tiiimmmaaayyyy3616
    @tiiimmmaaayyyy3616 4 роки тому +29

    I'm not sure how helpful Chanel's "motivation" was but I enjoyed it :)

  • @SILVERSNOWMAN72
    @SILVERSNOWMAN72 4 роки тому

    Awesome effort Alex, a massive well done. Seasoned zwifters are a hard lot and quite skilled at it. All group rides ive ridden are always full gas, the determination to win for the amateur is great! Well done again and at altitude.....

  • @ThePodiumSC
    @ThePodiumSC 4 роки тому

    WELL DONE! One of the hardest things (mentally/physically) is to get into something TOUGH without really knowing how long and how tough it will actually be! I'm very average at Zwift (I race in C Category) but there's a lot to be learned about each course and when to kick in power. I think most people believe that the draft is going to be a lot easier but it isn't... well done sticking it out!

  • @marksmith566
    @marksmith566 4 роки тому +3

    That was a great watch, it’s nice to see Pros are human too, loved the on Zwift “Plebs” comment 😂 you guys have great chemistry and make great vlogs 👍

  • @timgray7062
    @timgray7062 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you both! Really fun to watch. If you haven't yet, I suggest signing up for Zwift Power. It is a third party program that takes all data and determines winners, CAT's, Power, DQ's etc. it is real data you would enjoy, plus you will see your race results against the field. Thank you again for sharing your lives with us. it really does bring a smile in the midst of such difficult times. Both of you, be well.

  • @michaeljohnpeel6900
    @michaeljohnpeel6900 4 роки тому +23

    More baking interludes should be included in Zwift racing coverage! 👍

    • @XX-is7ps
      @XX-is7ps 4 роки тому +2

      Michael Peel it’s like a natural extension of that old cyclists favourite the cafe stop. Class.

  • @shaunparfett
    @shaunparfett 4 роки тому +2

    Chanel’s commentary was unique. Loved it. BTW, your Thighs Club intro is really top class. Who’s idea was that? Thanks for the always entertaining videos.

  • @lorddilego6805
    @lorddilego6805 4 роки тому +1

    Nice to see you getting into some Zwift racing, Alex! It's all just a bit of competitive fun, while getting in a hard workout at the same time, init. :)
    I see you've already figured out that there's quite a bit of in-game mechanics and group dynamics at work on Zwift, which takes a bit of experience and thought to predict and get right. It's not only about cranking out the watts. Just as you mentioned, your avg watts were probably quite a bit higher than the really good Zwifters who can just feather it and always stay in the draft. Also, draft is super important on Zwift, it gives you a slight respite but mainly amounts to a lot of speed when you're in a big group like that.
    You should do a couple of rides or races with some more experienced riders that can give you some basic pointers, so you can catch on a little quicker. ;)
    Nice job on the Cameron Jeffers reference. :P

  • @reeform2125
    @reeform2125 4 роки тому +4

    Nice effort for a first go. All about the draft and knowing the course in the e-races, once the racing is up to speed, 2.5 - 3.5wkg normally keeps me in the group on the flats.

  • @marksmithWLC
    @marksmithWLC 4 роки тому +8

    A lesson in how to make a Zwift race an interesting watch! Nice one

  • @paulwebster9448
    @paulwebster9448 4 роки тому +4

    The key is never to lose the front group because as soon as you do you’ll never get back on as a solo rider. As you said it’s about finding the right pace not to go through the group, you can normally get some recovery sitting just behind those at the front, it just takes practice.

  • @martijnv1
    @martijnv1 4 роки тому +45

    Chanel is such a great commentator, already excited to hear her commentate on real life races 👌😂

    • @cabanabarry9796
      @cabanabarry9796 4 роки тому +1

      I always want to shout fuck off to my mrs when she does this but I'm scared of her ...

  • @10ktube
    @10ktube 4 роки тому

    Even with getting your chops busted the entire time that was a solid effort. Great vid, probably not for you but from the couch, I loved it.

  • @Garybaxter1
    @Garybaxter1 4 роки тому

    Well done Alex full on gas mate! stay safe and look forward to see you race again!!

  • @haddymcbatty
    @haddymcbatty 4 роки тому +1

    That was great. Loved the running commentary.

  • @marcbryant8482
    @marcbryant8482 4 роки тому

    Well done for sharing this Alex. Yes zwift is hard and different to real life racing but as you said a very good tool to stay fit and get ur ride fix. We regular cyclists really appreciate your honest insights and being such a genuine bloke. Thanks

  • @joebearman620
    @joebearman620 4 роки тому +5

    Always click on your stuff immediately as it comes up guys 💪🏼 let’s watch this

  • @fredsimon
    @fredsimon 4 роки тому

    The thumb nail sold it for me. Good job!

  • @bitminerbob6731
    @bitminerbob6731 4 роки тому

    Enjoyed that vid. Hope you keep at the Zwift racing, even if you're at altitude. Great altitude training. :)

  • @matthiasmusterhaus3997
    @matthiasmusterhaus3997 3 роки тому

    Would love to see some Zwift streams from you this winter! :)

  • @alexthompson9151
    @alexthompson9151 4 роки тому +1

    Great watch, please post more of these videos!

  • @cyc00000
    @cyc00000 4 роки тому +7

    Stick at it Alex, if you train hard enough you'll go OK in racing. It takes a lot of dedication to get good at something as demanding as this.

  • @jeeping32810
    @jeeping32810 4 роки тому

    Proud of you Alex. I know it is "different", but you will get the hang of it. And by my estimation, you JUST LIKE many others, will crave a Zwift race over no race at all. I am in Austin Texas. Over here we have something called the Driveway Series. You can google that and see that we race on a vehicle race track. Last time I checked it was the BEST crit series in the USA. But after 1 race this year, it was fully cancelled. Now, every Thursday we race on Zwift. Just like me and others, in this time of uncertainty and weirdness, let's race!

  • @nicensleazy1892
    @nicensleazy1892 4 роки тому +1

    Alex, you are one hell of a nice guy, really enjoyed that. I'll buy you a coffee when I'm next riding in Essex

  • @BanjaxedSam
    @BanjaxedSam 4 роки тому

    Brilliant video. You two are making great content atm. 👍🚴💪

  • @jimdennison
    @jimdennison 4 роки тому +5

    Did my first Zwift race a week or so ago! Great fun but Zwift bases your ‘performance’ on the w/kg you put out ... and I’m not convinced there is a common accurate measure of power given everyone is on different turbo trainers! But you nailed it in your closing comments ... it’s more like an FTP test or Time Trial so good for high intensity fitness! I like the short / 15-20km events best and sometimes also do Sunday morning group rides with friends and chat on WhatsApp audio 🙂👍

  • @josephveal986
    @josephveal986 4 роки тому +45

    Love the Cam Jeffers reference!

  • @RichardGlazer
    @RichardGlazer 4 роки тому +1

    Look forward to watching you master this. Look for a Race next time! 👍🏻

  • @oldkayakdude
    @oldkayakdude 4 роки тому +8

    If its on Zwift, its a race... always.

  • @joebearman620
    @joebearman620 4 роки тому +32

    Should do some ITT races on Zwift mate, would be awesome to see you out there

    • @elijahkwon422
      @elijahkwon422 4 роки тому +1

      Joe Bearman No aero gains on zwift, Apart from height doping 😂

    • @bilonidas
      @bilonidas 4 роки тому

      Joe Bearman wtrl have itt events

  • @darrengreen7906
    @darrengreen7906 4 роки тому +1

    Almost 400 races, 800 rides...Most competitive races start with 2-5 min of Vo2, then settle. Learning to surf the group is very important as well as learning the courses. Bike and wheel choices for the course can make a big difference. Nice to see that my team mate got 5th in that race, GG Bart.

  • @lereveure
    @lereveure 4 роки тому +3

    Was living in Bogota, Colombia for the last 18 months, and the altitude up there is 2600m. I always found it difficult to go crazy on the bike up there since the air is thinner. Just came back to sea level and my ftp increased by 19% just by doing the switch - my heart rate was cruiiising. So guys please be mindful, altitude does change your FTP for sure.

  • @kchall5
    @kchall5 4 роки тому +28

    There's UCI Pro Tour shape, and then there's Zwift shape. It's tough keeping up with a bunch of guys who do nothing but sit on a turbo trainer all day.

    • @DrunkenRunt
      @DrunkenRunt 4 роки тому +35

      and that are 10kg lighter than reality 😂

    • @neilbardsley
      @neilbardsley 4 роки тому +34

      That are lying about their weight! There is no way a top 5 world TT is being dropped by some random people on turbos

    • @Contagi0us666
      @Contagi0us666 4 роки тому +12

      @@neilbardsley he is at altitude

    • @kencon25
      @kencon25 4 роки тому +5

      Over a year ago I gave Zwift a go. Got a smart trainer and all. Have to say. I didn't like Zwift at all. Riding for over 25 years and also a gamer. Love simulater. But Zwift didn't do it for me. Try to ride at 30kph. Was lime riding at 120%. Try to do a race!!! Sweet Jasus.
      5% climb at 10kph flat out...

    • @jakewelding4172
      @jakewelding4172 4 роки тому

      @@kencon25 do you have any trainers now? I was looking into zwift. Any recommendations?

  • @nakedbandit
    @nakedbandit 4 роки тому +2

    Good show. I guess I've got to motivate myself to join more Zwift rides. Would love to ride with you and Chanel sometime. You need to get the Kickr sorted so you can both get on together.

  • @waterdeptworker
    @waterdeptworker 6 місяців тому

    Great race Alex!!

  • @anthonylovell2271
    @anthonylovell2271 4 роки тому +1

    First thing you learn on zwift, races and free for all group rides are brutal, I'm sure Alex will soon be up to speed so to speak.

  • @barrydimelow822
    @barrydimelow822 4 роки тому

    Super honest , no ego , great video 👍

  • @museves
    @museves 4 роки тому +1

    would love to see live Zwift race!!!! and QnA too

  • @RM-tp3gb
    @RM-tp3gb 4 роки тому

    love Chanels comments race strategy motivation! v funny! more of these please!

  • @mikejames172
    @mikejames172 4 роки тому

    Well done Alex....you will get sharper mate !

  • @ivanmelamud4512
    @ivanmelamud4512 4 роки тому +1

    Great content. Enjoying the vlogs. Zwift races are super hard - also you’re never sure whether everyone is legit. Can’t believe some of the average watts in these events. Keep it up though.

  • @Bukoe
    @Bukoe 4 роки тому +4

    last 3 winters I have been using zwift mostly as Base training and joining races like each 10-14 days just to kill my self .. Its not Real racing its a Game And the game gets better as you learn how to play it.. But races are tough and will keep fit and strong =) .. Good luck hope you do more =)

  • @stef077rove2
    @stef077rove2 4 роки тому

    bravoooo .. quelle course Alex à l'air maquer par l'effort.. portez vous bien :)

  • @scottbatula7392
    @scottbatula7392 4 роки тому +1

    My .02 and take it FWIW, just a humble opinion
    1. Yes some people weight dope, but like others have noted it can/can’t make a difference, but it depends on how much they skew it
    2. There are more people riding non-drive trainers with uncalibrated PMs, I see this a ton at our shop “you meanI have to calibrate a PM?!?” “How do you even do that, that’s a thing?!?”
    3. This should be number 1, there are in fact tons of people who can put out big sustained wattage for 30-45-60+ min because that’s exactly what they have trained for. The prime examples I like to tell people are as follows
    -I see tons of dudes who can lift very heavy at the gym, ie bench press 400-500+ pounds squat 500-700+ pounds deadlift 500-700+ pounds, they may excel at one or more disciplines but will never become a pro power lifter or bodybuilder.
    -how many kids can run mid 4.xx second 40s and will never play college American football
    -how many college guys can run low 4.xx 40s and never even sniff the NFL
    -the hundreds if not thousands of marathoners who put up an Olympic qualifying time but have zero chance of ever making their country’s team because the time gap is just never going to close on the elites
    We all knows tons of elite level athletes who can dominate at the local or even state level but cant hang with the national or international (world class) level athletes, whether it be horrendous bike handling skills, poor racing tactics/strategies, inability to work with a team etc. some people are just gifted and with hard work become amazing, they just can’t do it at the pro ranks, which takes an additional myriad of x-factor skills

  • @BuexxTM
    @BuexxTM 4 роки тому

    You actually did a Group Ride, but a very competitive one. You should look out for "Crit City Races". They are performed on a special course you cannot enter otherwise and are usually arround 20min with the A group. It is like a big TT effort with a sprint at the end :) You will love it, except for the sprint

  • @DanCave
    @DanCave 4 роки тому +3

    i love how you had the windows open and it's much colder - you must have been dripping cobs..

  • @polthomaskeeley7860
    @polthomaskeeley7860 4 роки тому

    It's funny to see Alex really getting to grips with this amongst all the top Zwift riders out there who are clearly very talented and have got this 'race' world dialled in.
    Would also be great to see how those top Zwift guys would fare in actual outdoor time trials and road races. Of course I appreciate the fact that many of them may actually be pros, ex pros, or just hardcore riders who can produce phenomenal performances; to endure those sublime wattages for that long.
    Impressive 👍👍👍👍😎😎😎

    • @philipk4475
      @philipk4475 4 роки тому +1

      Most Zwift "racers", who crank out 5.5 w/kg on their home trainer, struggle to put out 4.5 w/kg once they're on a properly calibrated one. And we're not even getting into weight doping :)

    • @MB-pq4hx
      @MB-pq4hx 4 роки тому

      @@philipk4475 Try 3, mate

  • @lauraorchard4545
    @lauraorchard4545 4 роки тому +1

    Superb, enjoyed that from you both immensely. Harder than the hour record...ummm OK if you say so 🤔 Looking forward to forthcoming episodes, your turn next Chanel 👍🏻

  • @KFc-pm1rz
    @KFc-pm1rz 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the video guys. Helps to keep spirits up. Hope it helps you guys

  • @matttnewton
    @matttnewton 4 роки тому +1

    Really enjoyed this Vvlog guys - keep safe.

  • @paulgraham5076
    @paulgraham5076 4 роки тому +1

    Great commentary from Chanel

  • @DiGitalpUnk1000
    @DiGitalpUnk1000 4 роки тому +1

    I’d love to see Alex enter one of the TT’s on Zwift.

  • @hansbergsten2375
    @hansbergsten2375 4 роки тому +8

    "It was hard!" Welcome to Zwift😜 You will learn and get the hang of it all after a few rides. That was not a race, it was a group ride but as almost all group rides turns to races in the front as you just experienced💪👍 Looks like your locked in Andorra (recognize the buildings) but I am probably wrong but if I am right you must be very close to neighbor's with Willy "Smyrfy" Smith. Hope to see you on Zwift😷 You might come out of this in better shape than before the lockdown if ride on Zwift correct!!!!👍🙏😍

  • @TheDomLouis
    @TheDomLouis 4 роки тому

    There are non drafting TT races you can enter on Zwift. So if that's more your bag, Zwift can accommodate. Use the Companion App and scroll through the Events to find an upcoming one.

  • @triton576
    @triton576 2 роки тому

    lol Got to love the play by play. Thanks for the video

  • @bryngriffith
    @bryngriffith 4 роки тому +9

    Get on ZwiftPower !

  • @gordonharker4705
    @gordonharker4705 4 роки тому +1

    enjoy that well done great ride.👍💪💪

  • @brianmuir9059
    @brianmuir9059 4 роки тому

    Nice to get a wee mention at the top of your screen!

  • @JeremyBenfield
    @JeremyBenfield 4 роки тому +1

    Loved it!

  • @RobbieBLFC1
    @RobbieBLFC1 4 роки тому +7

    The Tron Bike is now the Cameron Jeffers bike 😂👍

  • @neilbardsley
    @neilbardsley 4 роки тому +1

    I hope you saw the Cav Bradley chat where they said this a perfect time for an attempt at the hour!!

  • @billinhouston3291
    @billinhouston3291 4 роки тому

    Get a fan and learn to use the power-ups. Great to see you on there. The baking interlude was also a great answer to the question "what do we show in the boring middle part of the race?"

  • @AndrewMooreAUS
    @AndrewMooreAUS 4 роки тому +1

    Yep. start is like cyclocross or mtb!

  • @chrispyy606060606
    @chrispyy606060606 4 роки тому +4

    “I don’t know what my ability level is on Zwift” ROFL

  • @wowcherub
    @wowcherub 4 роки тому

    @alexdowsett What do you use to hang your TT bike on the wall please? Am really looking for something to make some space

  • @stevec2739
    @stevec2739 4 роки тому

    great video guys

  • @wostrick2259
    @wostrick2259 4 роки тому

    Anyone noticed the exquisite selection of background music...? Spot on 👍

  • @swites
    @swites 4 роки тому

    Don't know anything about zwift except most of my friends are on it. I've resisted so far. Looked like a few guys were using some "power ups" at the finish to give themselves an advantage. Think that's also part of it. But how many watts does altitude steal from your ftp I wonder, 20, 40, 50?

  • @emmadudley228
    @emmadudley228 4 роки тому

    Use 2 are such great entertainment and open. Zwift races take in so much in game gameplay and you need to know you’re way to Zwift race and use power ups. I hope you get the bug Alex at least whilst you are isolated. Zwift do time trials as well which you may enjoy (🤔). Just look at the events on companion app. Zwift keeping me sane at the moment . Keep up the great vids please 😀👍

    • @emmadudley228
      @emmadudley228 4 роки тому

      Oh yeah , Zwift weight doping is a big thing .

  • @brianfisher8449
    @brianfisher8449 4 роки тому +6

    You’ll kick butt once you figure it out. That was just a group ride. It also helps greatly to be familiar with the routes. You’ll be A group for racing . The ride is all groups. Also, be up to wattage 3 seconds before to start.

    • @mpk2707
      @mpk2707 4 роки тому +1

      Yes that wasn't even a race.

    • @NikeonaBike
      @NikeonaBike 4 роки тому +3

      @@mpk2707 People race the ToW and TdZ "group rides" as hard as a race. watts are watts.

    • @mpk2707
      @mpk2707 4 роки тому

      @@NikeonaBike hell yah. I also rode the Tour of watopia 1 at full speed. I got my best placing at #24/540 during the ride.

    • @paulhopkins686
      @paulhopkins686 2 роки тому

      'Figure it out' that is so funny!

  • @mickbuston3236
    @mickbuston3236 4 роки тому +1

    Great joint effort :-)

  • @spencereells
    @spencereells 4 роки тому +1

    Altitude! Next time, Alex!! Go again!

  • @thebikepackingadventurer
    @thebikepackingadventurer 4 роки тому +2

    The tongue was out, so it was definitely an effort from the start. Zwift is absolutely full gas from the off, it's crazy

  • @supercurioTube
    @supercurioTube 4 роки тому

    Cold air no no airflow is kind of the worst, as you tend experience both burning and freezing simultaneously.
    I'd suggest experimenting with multiple, powerful enough fans + the window only semi open so the indoor temperature remains around 10-13 °C, and the rider has plenty of airflow everywhere needed.
    When dialed-in properly, even during a race you'll barely sweat: no need to use a towel to catch drops and all that.

  • @stevewalters700
    @stevewalters700 4 роки тому +4

    Chanel:so how was it for you?..guessing you've hears that before. 😅ride on.

  • @brianmessemer2973
    @brianmessemer2973 4 роки тому +1

    Alex "Yeah" Dowsett 😂👍👍

  • @TheBassallyear100
    @TheBassallyear100 4 роки тому +2

    lmao - the CJ bike! still think he got a raw deal though

  • @OnAllFOUR
    @OnAllFOUR 4 роки тому

    Glad I am not the only one who feels like that after a race

  • @emperorofthenorthno.19trai30
    @emperorofthenorthno.19trai30 4 роки тому +1

    YES if you are surging then you just need to learn to sit in and your swifting .when you move up to the front slow the watts down and as soon as you start to drift back ,pick them back up again or you will be out the back .after a while it will be second nature

    • @emperorofthenorthno.19trai30
      @emperorofthenorthno.19trai30 4 роки тому

      try to down shift to slow your watts and shift up to increase watts once at your level of yo yoing , i have gone through a set just in 3 months and learn to jump on top the next gear . its a ave of 3 sec out put if that helps its a game like good ole tecmo bowl lol

  • @nicksidell4797
    @nicksidell4797 4 роки тому

    Do you feel as you’ve got a little bit to work on then Alex?

  • @jamieshardlow1486
    @jamieshardlow1486 4 роки тому

    I had to smile when Alex wondered if it would slow up a bit after the start! Still, good effort though.

  • @barryz63
    @barryz63 4 роки тому +5

    That hair on your shoulders was causing drag. :)

  • @mikeburton8426
    @mikeburton8426 4 роки тому

    Suggest you could increase TOTAL audience by also posting this under heading “ My first attempt at pro race “commentating”. That was hilarious. I think if my SIGO was doing that while I was smashing the Watts in the pain cave I would do a full “Moscon”!!

  • @damienrstpierre
    @damienrstpierre 4 роки тому +11

    "350 Average, jesus, who are all these people.... on zwift" Shrugs in bewilderment :)

  • @verytricky69
    @verytricky69 4 роки тому +1

    Well done mate, good fun right !? :)

  • @velovieux
    @velovieux 4 роки тому +1

    Nice one Alex. Try TT Tuesday.

  • @romkev.h.763
    @romkev.h.763 4 роки тому

    Alex, the reason you could not see your result because it was a group ride, not an actual race! At a race it shows the results (also wattages and heart rates of competitors) and tells you your position and all gaps!!

  • @NathanBudd
    @NathanBudd 4 роки тому

    Is there any reason you have different size jockey wheels on the bike behind?