I love seeing Natalia climb, she has such great control. But I have a softspot for the underdog so was kinda rooting for Hannah, who had a fantastic competition as well. Cool stuff here that day.
I'm a beginner and was inspired by these ladies ... When I went to the gym I then figured out real quick these pro climbers' skills were astronomically above me
@@francesco5254 I'd recommend you to try it out. I've started about one year ago and it's been so much fun. No matter your physique you'll improve fairly quickly, I've motivated a few friends to try it out and both the athletic ones and the ones on the heavier side had a blast! And I also recommend you to go with friends, this way it's more fun, you'll figure out more problems and don't tire youself out as fast as you would on your own :) And if you ever need help don't be afraid to ask any climber in the gym, most of them are so nice and helpful!
The boulder problems in this iconic World Cup are always fascinating! Although they are also very hard it's so satisfying watching strong climbers flashing them 💪🏼
What's really interesting about the super dynamic climbs (like boulder 2) is that they're set up so that you aren't supposed to be able to stattik them, meaning they normally are outside the wingspan of the shorter climbers, so i think that might have something to do with why only Natalia and Hannah got boulder 2, and why the other climbers were stroggling, since they had to get more movement if they wanted to get the hold. I've noticed this happen with alot of constests where the shorter climbers kinda get screwed over since what's "Hard" in bouldering is normally assumed to be what's dynamic, but these damic boulders aren't realy designed with shorter climbers in mind, since dynos have to me built for the tasllest climbers if they dont wanna be broken. tldr, Im short and mad
Natalia is actually the shortest of them and Saki is taller than Hannah yet didn't get the boulder. I feel like since the hardest part was to balance out the swinging momentum, the difference was more in mass and how the climbers are built
@@Bomber.man. no doubt that in some instances height does make a difference. Innsbruck last year was awful. Short climbers like ai mori couldn't even start a boulder because of a ridiculously high set volume
The women route setters have the impossible job of somehow seperating Grossman from the rest of the field whilst also keeping the boulders humanly possible haha. It's not a job I envy at all.
*Wow, they are all winners in my eyes. Here I am, no clue what's going on. I just know these are top athletes of their sports. The best of the best and I - who have no idea what's going on except the goal is to get to the top with two hands and that the best of the best is competing, that alone says they are all winners. I was also very mesmerized watching how concentrated each of them were during the close up. Watching their face and focus - yeah... just something odd about how mesmerizing a human can be when their full attention is at one focus point.*
So can someone tell me why after the first round Natalia placed higher than Nonaka even though Nonaka finished at a faster rate?? Edit: And Hannah finished faster in the second round, I call bullshit unless someone can explain to me how Natalia is placing higher than any of them.
It's due to countback from the semi-finals. Natalia qualified for the final in first which is also why she's the last to attempt the boulders. In bouldering, semi-final ranking (not time) will decide the final standing if there's a tie between athletes (same amount of tops and zones, same amount of attempts to reach tops/zones)
Question, why the time doesn't stop when brushers are out, clearly this is just a maintenance and yes climbers have those extra 3-4 seconds to rest and reset but still l think this should not eat into their time
no expert, but even a tiny bit of fat / body weight messes up the swing moves cause it puts more pressure on the fingers when in momentum.. both the US and german athletes are very lean and it works to their advantage
Yeah it's a real issue in climbing. It's sort of like ballet, one of those strength-to-weight ratio sports that can create really toxic eating culture. Not saying these athletes do that, but many top climbers have. There is a documentary called "Light" that does a great job understanding it.
I vaguely remember this being sampled in an EDM song together with Charly Chaplin's speech in The Dictator. So I don't know the name, but maybe you can find it that way.
Maybe weight classes should be a thing? Looked to me like the girls with a lighter, thinner frame like Meul and Grossman had less problems dealing with the difficult stuff. I mean, a light breeze of wind could've carried them over from one boulder to the next 🤷♂ Not hating or anything, just saying...
I think it has more to do with intelligence and body control the most and then strength and conditioning. The best climbers always seem to be able to figure things out and also have really good body control to execute what they want to do. Body type might factor in abit, but smarts and body control to me are most important. Every girl in this final is able to beat the problems, but it was Hannah and Natalia that were able to figure each problem out and then move their bodies along the course with just the right amount of strength and feel to reach the top.
That second boulder was absolutely horribly done by the route setters. When the beta doesn't work and breaking the beta does, you know the problem lies with the route setters.
That 2nd wall challenge is quite advantage to those bigger, taller women who have bigger, longer palm, fingers, hand surface to grip, not just about the hand moisture. Commentators seems dumb can't even think about that. The bigger the hand surface can hold, the more friction they have. That's why smaller boulder like the Japanese or Korean keep on having issue there.
Seems like the the taller you are you have way way of an edge of the shorter ones. Specially with these boulders. Its no surprise that the shortest girl did the worst. I might sound retarded to more experienced people in the sport but why not have different divisions for different sizes?
Because some of the best climbers have been short women, theres some moves that are far harder for tall people, specifically those that require you to get contorted and twisted a lot as your center of mass is pushed off the wall due to length. However, there are also many advantages to being tall that cannot be denied
@@aedegroot94 I was so ready to reply that as well. Winner is 1.62 m, silver place 1.67 m. And this is the final. Surely many other athletes were taller but didn’t make it. If anything, it looks like smaller people have an advantage.
@@tomriddle2257 Smaller people do in some types of moves, but if theres anything dynamic or far, then taller people do. Traditionally smaller people fair better in bouldering than lead because of the style of climbing but it is something that skill and strength overcome
While that isn't true for the top of the competition and for the hardest outside boulders, most climbs certainly do favour taller people. But here you can see that none of the women are particularly tall and the winner was among the shortest.
I really didn't like the second boulder. It wasn't about their skin composition. Let's face it, it was about friction to weight ratio. Favoring near anorexia.
@@AustinCooper That boulder wasn't about strength, only weight. That's not sound, in any sport. Athletes shouldn't be forced to starve themselves, to compete.
I would argue that boulder #2 was actually the most strength dependent climb in the comp. It basically required a one arm pull up in the way Hannah and Natalia did it. Also I feel like you're picking a fight with gravity itself. Any sport that requires a person to ascend or move upward with their own hands is naturally going to favor high-strength, low-weight athletes.
@@AustinCooper Nonono. Look at the face of the Japanese climbers. They couldn't believe how slippery the hold was. Remember what I said about weight, look at Ai Mori. Poor girl, she stopped growing in her early teens. Any sport that support that kind of self-infliction will sort itself out, eventually.
There is noone near anorexia as i can see. And i think everyone feel good at their shape. Plus bouldering was always about strength/weight, so its only natural that boulders like Natalia and Hannah have advantage in some moves. Same thing exist in many other sports.
I wish Hannah would have won, she is such a talented athlete and so down to earth! Grossman is kinda starting to become a little too narcissistic in my opinion
Hanna's my favorite too but this is just incredibly unfair on Natalia. I don't understand where you're even getting this impression. To me they are both displaying equal amounts of confidence, that is also very deserved.
Yes, Hannah did great, but Natalia just was a tiny bit better. She deserved her win and to celebrate it. Why would you call her narcisstic? Did she make any comment that indicates this?
Check the description for the timetable of the climbs in this video
the time is wrong for Natalia #4
@@Pawn-Sac thanks for pointing that out :)) fixed ✅
If I was that brusher who hit Hannah in the face I don’t know how I’d recover lol
i feel like it would be worse if she didn't top it right after that lol
what a thrilling comp. so exciting. Hannah and Natalia outstanding but respect to the other climbers too. great commentary too - thank you.
Okay ✅ 38:34 38:35 38:35
I love watching Hannah, great athlete!
I love seeing Natalia climb, she has such great control. But I have a softspot for the underdog so was kinda rooting for Hannah, who had a fantastic competition as well. Cool stuff here that day.
Hannah is the opposite of the underdog
I love the big close ups of the climbers faces, a window into the souls!
I'm a beginner and was inspired by these ladies ... When I went to the gym I then figured out real quick these pro climbers' skills were astronomically above me
how is it going? I'm thinking about trying this sport.
@@francesco5254 I'd recommend you to try it out. I've started about one year ago and it's been so much fun. No matter your physique you'll improve fairly quickly, I've motivated a few friends to try it out and both the athletic ones and the ones on the heavier side had a blast!
And I also recommend you to go with friends, this way it's more fun, you'll figure out more problems and don't tire youself out as fast as you would on your own :)
And if you ever need help don't be afraid to ask any climber in the gym, most of them are so nice and helpful!
@@kampfkanguru1951 thanks a lot for the advice, I'll try it out soon! Won't go with friends cause I have none 😭 but it's okay I'll have fun anyway 😂
@@francesco5254have you had a go?
@@francesco5254Did you now have a go?
Can we just all take a moment to appreciate the announcer. One of the best 🙌
name? really enjoyed the commentary.
@@klurpook the main commentator who appears in most (if not all) of the finals commentaries is Matt Groom. Not sure who the other commentator is
The duo where really great tbh
@@klurpook Agree, always enjoyable
The boulder problems in this iconic World Cup are always fascinating! Although they are also very hard it's so satisfying watching strong climbers flashing them 💪🏼
What's really interesting about the super dynamic climbs (like boulder 2) is that they're set up so that you aren't supposed to be able to stattik them, meaning they normally are outside the wingspan of the shorter climbers, so i think that might have something to do with why only Natalia and Hannah got boulder 2, and why the other climbers were stroggling, since they had to get more movement if they wanted to get the hold. I've noticed this happen with alot of constests where the shorter climbers kinda get screwed over since what's "Hard" in bouldering is normally assumed to be what's dynamic, but these damic boulders aren't realy designed with shorter climbers in mind, since dynos have to me built for the tasllest climbers if they dont wanna be broken. tldr, Im short and mad
Natalia is actually the shortest of them and Saki is taller than Hannah yet didn't get the boulder. I feel like since the hardest part was to balance out the swinging momentum, the difference was more in mass and how the climbers are built
1:21:41 here you see how millimeters in leg size makes a difference
@@Bomber.man. no doubt that in some instances height does make a difference. Innsbruck last year was awful. Short climbers like ai mori couldn't even start a boulder because of a ridiculously high set volume
What a great performance by all the athletes, especially that last boulder. Several extremely difficult climbs. Well done ladies!
This was possibly Hannahs best comp ever so far. So freaking impressive!
This is the best thriller I've seen in ages.
After watching the Olympics this commentary is SUCH a treat
The start on that second boulder looks ridiculous! The setters made the first one too easy and second one too hard!
Looks like the "dynamic" boulder ended up being all about the stickyness/weight of the climbers.
Ханна просто невероятно прекрасна
That first climb was way too easy and that second one was ridiculously hard. Seriously the angle of those triple dyno holds was hellish.
The women route setters have the impossible job of somehow seperating Grossman from the rest of the field whilst also keeping the boulders humanly possible haha. It's not a job I envy at all.
I don't think the second was to hard.. 2 people flashed it... But yeah the first one was a joke
What is it with this comment section? Stop yall's childish complaining and enjoy the competition
Dude these comments are wild, people actin insane what is up with half of them?
Great talent, that last boulder was psycho hard…
*Wow, they are all winners in my eyes. Here I am, no clue what's going on. I just know these are top athletes of their sports. The best of the best and I - who have no idea what's going on except the goal is to get to the top with two hands and that the best of the best is competing, that alone says they are all winners. I was also very mesmerized watching how concentrated each of them were during the close up. Watching their face and focus - yeah... just something odd about how mesmerizing a human can be when their full attention is at one focus point.*
That would have to 😮😅😅 I’m so excited to get back into the game but
sensational!!
Ito's last attempt is very Max Milne style
HAY TANTA HISTORIA A TRAVES LAS DECADAS DE DESTACADOS ESCALADORES A LAS MONTAÑAS NEVADOS Y MUCHOS MAS
Miho is very beautiful.
Is there any way to know the grade of those routes?
So can someone tell me why after the first round Natalia placed higher than Nonaka even though Nonaka finished at a faster rate??
Edit: And Hannah finished faster in the second round, I call bullshit unless someone can explain to me how Natalia is placing higher than any of them.
It's due to countback from the semi-finals. Natalia qualified for the final in first which is also why she's the last to attempt the boulders. In bouldering, semi-final ranking (not time) will decide the final standing if there's a tie between athletes (same amount of tops and zones, same amount of attempts to reach tops/zones)
ES EXCELENTE EL ESCALAR ES BUENISIMO COMO LO HACIA Y LO DIJO EL DR. EDUARDO ALFONSO Y HERNAN ALLA POR LOS AÑOS 192O MEDICO NATURISTA ESPAÑOL
Awesome! What a cool line. I’ve not been to this spot at the gunks. How do you get there?
Meul randomly dominating that second boulder is crazy when everyone else couldnt even get off the start
I wish there was an option to turn the commentary off. I'm sick of muting it...I wanna hear the crowd!
when it comes to world cup, what grades do they usually put? i assume it has to be higher than 7a?
Hannah Wins ! The best
Please delete this spoiler.
Any Idea what piano song is playing at 1:02:00?
hard to tell, seconds later is crystallize by lindsey stirling.
perhaps some sort of intro?
where is ai mori
can anyone tell me what the black lightning bolts mean?
Why do the have same clean bolders
The only reason why I’m going to the hospital 🏥 for my mom 👩🏼 and 😢 baby girl 👧🏾 was because she had cancer ♋️ so I didn’t know
Question, why the time doesn't stop when brushers are out, clearly this is just a maintenance and yes climbers have those extra 3-4 seconds to rest and reset but still l think this should not eat into their time
they choose to brush, they won't brush during their turn unless told so
no expert, but even a tiny bit of fat / body weight messes up the swing moves cause it puts more pressure on the fingers when in momentum.. both the US and german athletes are very lean and it works to their advantage
Yeah it's a real issue in climbing. It's sort of like ballet, one of those strength-to-weight ratio sports that can create really toxic eating culture. Not saying these athletes do that, but many top climbers have. There is a documentary called "Light" that does a great job understanding it.
Was Natalie paid for a redbull tattoo or sth? That's one way to have an ad ig
@1:2:50
Does someone know the name of the music?
I vaguely remember this being sampled in an EDM song together with Charly Chaplin's speech in The Dictator.
So I don't know the name, but maybe you can find it that way.
I found it: Crystallize by Lindsey Stirling
@@tomriddle2257 Nice. 👍
Maybe weight classes should be a thing? Looked to me like the girls with a lighter, thinner frame like Meul and Grossman had less problems dealing with the difficult stuff. I mean, a light breeze of wind could've carried them over from one boulder to the next 🤷♂
Not hating or anything, just saying...
I think it has more to do with intelligence and body control the most and then strength and conditioning. The best climbers always seem to be able to figure things out and also have really good body control to execute what they want to do.
Body type might factor in abit, but smarts and body control to me are most important. Every girl in this final is able to beat the problems, but it was Hannah and Natalia that were able to figure each problem out and then move their bodies along the course with just the right amount of strength and feel to reach the top.
hot
The first
Bet the announcers don't spend half an hour talking about smiling when it's the men. In fact I know they don't. Come on guys.
Maybe the men should smile more.
That second boulder was absolutely horribly done by the route setters. When the beta doesn't work and breaking the beta does, you know the problem lies with the route setters.
That 2nd wall challenge is quite advantage to those bigger, taller women who have bigger, longer palm, fingers, hand surface to grip, not just about the hand moisture. Commentators seems dumb can't even think about that. The bigger the hand surface can hold, the more friction they have. That's why smaller boulder like the Japanese or Korean keep on having issue there.
The girl in the thumb looks like Nancy A
Can you not be weird for one moment at least?
Jeez this is a climbing competition - lower the hormone shots if you can't handle the horny...
Seems like the the taller you are you have way way of an edge of the shorter ones. Specially with these boulders. Its no surprise that the shortest girl did the worst. I might sound retarded to more experienced people in the sport but why not have different divisions for different sizes?
Because some of the best climbers have been short women, theres some moves that are far harder for tall people, specifically those that require you to get contorted and twisted a lot as your center of mass is pushed off the wall due to length. However, there are also many advantages to being tall that cannot be denied
Except that Natalia Grossman is the same height as the shortest girl (both are 1.62m) and she won.
@@aedegroot94 I was so ready to reply that as well. Winner is 1.62 m, silver place 1.67 m. And this is the final. Surely many other athletes were taller but didn’t make it. If anything, it looks like smaller people have an advantage.
@@tomriddle2257 Smaller people do in some types of moves, but if theres anything dynamic or far, then taller people do. Traditionally smaller people fair better in bouldering than lead because of the style of climbing but it is something that skill and strength overcome
While that isn't true for the top of the competition and for the hardest outside boulders, most climbs certainly do favour taller people.
But here you can see that none of the women are particularly tall and the winner was among the shortest.
The only way 24:08 24:10 24:10 24:11 is to be in a relationship with me is by telling him
i'd save the money on expensive climbing shoes . . . and buy a ladder !!
the german commentator is kinda cringe tbh xD
i was lookeing for this comment, than its not just me :D just shut up and play music :D
@@imlockon exactly xD
I envy the international audience, who can't understand him.
One day we will get an athlete injured because a route setter wanted to show off and set a cool move. So irresponsible
What move here was dangerous compared to anything outdoors?
I think they are injured quite often
I really didn't like the second boulder. It wasn't about their skin composition.
Let's face it, it was about friction to weight ratio. Favoring near anorexia.
Are you suggesting that rock climbing favors higher strength-to-weight ratios? Because yes, that is indeed what climbing is all about.
@@AustinCooper That boulder wasn't about strength, only weight. That's not sound, in any sport. Athletes shouldn't be forced to starve themselves, to compete.
I would argue that boulder #2 was actually the most strength dependent climb in the comp. It basically required a one arm pull up in the way Hannah and Natalia did it.
Also I feel like you're picking a fight with gravity itself. Any sport that requires a person to ascend or move upward with their own hands is naturally going to favor high-strength, low-weight athletes.
@@AustinCooper Nonono. Look at the face of the Japanese climbers. They couldn't believe how slippery the hold was. Remember what I said about weight, look at Ai Mori. Poor girl, she stopped growing in her early teens. Any sport that support that kind of self-infliction will sort itself out, eventually.
There is noone near anorexia as i can see. And i think everyone feel good at their shape. Plus bouldering was always about strength/weight, so its only natural that boulders like Natalia and Hannah have advantage in some moves.
Same thing exist in many other sports.
8:24 I can see……..
I wish Hannah would have won, she is such a talented athlete and so down to earth! Grossman is kinda starting to become a little too narcissistic in my opinion
Hanna's my favorite too but this is just incredibly unfair on Natalia. I don't understand where you're even getting this impression. To me they are both displaying equal amounts of confidence, that is also very deserved.
Yes, Hannah did great, but Natalia just was a tiny bit better. She deserved her win and to celebrate it. Why would you call her narcisstic? Did she make any comment that indicates this?
Can't wait for the day when a trans dude wins this competition
this doesn't look hard at all
Kiddin?
I have yet to see you in the finals
Don't let men compete in women's sports.
Wtf?
How much these cute girls do weight? 35 kilos?
無法想像雨天的備案，只是一把雨傘...
太可笑了！！
А почему не показали как японки тапки меняют?
Gaaaaahhh stop with the brushes and admit defeat
Nah, the brushing can be a lifesaver man, get that friction and get the send, besides, its like 2 minutes extra not that long