Would it work on a cammed 2009 challenger RT. Compcam HRT stage 2 cam master kit minus the lifter they were out got engine tech roller lifters and shorty headers also phase locked VVT. Had a place adjudt cam but still only dyno at 358??? Should be 400whp at least car dies on me going from reverse to drive or neutral to drive unless i hit gas quick after A couple people suggest FRP tuner but what do you think would be better FRP or T2?
That's awesome congrats on the Scatpack, Dave katz is actually tuning my scat pack also. The guy is awesome, super nice guy, and responds to your emails right on point. Awesome customer service 👍
Excited to watch as you build up your 392! Glad you went with this platform because I can see how these mods work for you before I get them haha. Just picked myself up that exact bravado wheel for my scat too. Take care man love the videos!
Should consider a hellcat airbox w/airtube to headlight and hellcat air filter. Cheap and works great. In Florida typical IATs are about 5* over ambient as long as you are moving and getting air. 100 buck BMR (or any brand you like) lower control arms are also helpful for launches to help avoid hop, which be damaging. Enjoying your 392 progress!
I've never had wheel hop but I've seen it. I'll def check out some control arms. This 392 will be ripping soon enough - but i'm loving the HP/Torque level as is for now.
@@RTLife actually BMR lists them as LTA110 Lower Trailing Arms, Non-adjustable, Poly Bushings Def worth the hundred bucks. Easy install and minimum added noise. Changing the uppers and other bushings is harder and for me not worth the hassle.
I did one in mine since it came with older style hellcat hood with heat extractors and I was worried about rain in the vents so I liked it closed off but if I had the older style hood I would have definitely went with the jlt either ways a win though
Should just get the drag kit from AAD instead. Has the upper & lower rear control arms that are billet aluminum & fully adjustable. BMR's rear cradle & diff lockouts are a must though! 👍🤙
Love your channel!! I got a 2021 392 wide body frost bite charger , just did a legmaker intake, long tube headers and unlock pcm tune!! The car runs like a beast!!!!
I have a Diablosport i3 tuner, worked out great for me. I have uploaded a canned 91 octane tune in both my hemi Chrysler 300C(made them into rocketships with just a canned tune!)and my '12 Challenger R/T M6 hemi, and it was most noticeable on the Chrysler, raised redline to 6300 RPM and shift points are at 5900 to 6 grand even w/5-speed automatic, and M6 car has also been turned up. Great video, thanks man!
Holy crap! an actual "How-To" video from RT Life! Nice!!! Regarding the PCM swap - a dealer is going to know if you swapped the stock PCM in and out, so that's really kind of pointless. It all depends on your dealer - if they wanna make an issue out of it they will, regardless of which PCM is installed when you bring it in for service, because they WILL know that it was swapped. For this reason, I chose to just replace my stock PCM without keeping my original, and the money i saved went to other mods. Also, I blew out the rear end of my hellcat WITH an unlocked PCM installed. My dealer still replaced the rear under warranty even though they knew I swapped the PCM. Moral of the story - find a good dealer.
yah that's pretty much the reason I did the swap. They know but still some people can play stupid if their Stock PCM is in & there's no other upgrades in place.
I would even say swap out your stock springs for 1320 or drag springs since you’re planning for the track with this. Squat and go and it feels good! Got mines installed today and it feels good!
@@RTLife No doubt! I think this car is going to be good for your channel. Your Charger was getting to be a car that was in an unattainable price for most. I think this Challenger will do well because it is very attainable. Adding all that power can be frustrating too with all the reliability issues.
You got 2 awesome cars. I love N/A power and I'm more partial to the Challenger. Been considering getting a Challenger myself after I'm done will my Ram build.
I love driving the challenger. Very different feeling then the Charger. You're going to enjoy having one & modding it up. Thanks man, def appreciate it.
Happy belated Birthday R man, hope it was a great one. Not sure how far South you are in Florida, but we are picking up our 23 300 C in Hickory NC once it’s built and delivered. Maybe we can get down your way on the drive back home from there.
I'm right outside of Orlando. We can def meet up somewhere - I'd love to see that new 300c! Thank you very much for the BDay wish - hope all is good on your end.
Get a set of proline eibach springs! Very Suttle drop tightened up the wheel gap and no need for a camber kit! Mine have been amazing and no uneven tire wear!
Sup bro I recently bought the Diablo tuner changed some parameters. But now thinking of changing it to 93 tune. Is a 2014 300 5.7 and I have a question do you have to change the gas before tune or after the 93 tune?
I am having Valvetronic universal mufflers installed in my scat. Have you heard of them? Valvetronic for mids and vibrant 1142 for rear resonators. MFER-1 to deactivate factory active exhaust. With Valvetronic can open or close valve with key fob or even Homelink garage door buttons.
Excited for the build. Sold my 2020 wide body scat and missed it. Just recently added a 2010 6.1 to the garage but missing that 392 power. Wonder what options I have to get to stock 392 levels. Love the videos.
New Camshaft & long tubes - that will easily get that 6.1L to 430whp range. Those 6.1's are great for building power but I def understand enjoying that 392 power level.
6.1’s take boost a lot better than 6.4’s so that’s always an option, you could probably get away with 10-12 psi atock everything, but of course heads, cam, long tubes, exhaust and such will make the most of it
I believe the Apache heads will fit the 6.1L block perfectly, unlike the 5.7L block. That alone will help it breathe better. Then like the rest have already said: Intake, cam, & exhaust will do the rest. 😉
Totally agree. Gives you more room with those bigass connectors. Should loosen driver's side bolts just enough, then remove the passenger side. Will let you move the cross-member all the way to the strut cap. Just make sure you get the "hook" for the wiper motor when you put is back. 😉
If something big happens they'll likely turn you away because of the unlocked PCM & tuning. That said some dealerships look the other way & honor warranty work
I know you like Diablo but hp tuners just need the device you do not need a laptop all you need is a cell phone to data log read and write tunes and you can send them any where and you have track addict. On t&t days I use my laptop. in race events I use my phone to keep 6 pounds lighter lol my tuner gets my logs in 30 seconds with hp tuners new soft wear. I don't need wires I can use Bluetooth for phone or laptop and if I give my tuner a code he can see everything on demand I just want to clear things up about hp tuners. Mickeys going to work great on the scat. Keep up with the great content mopar or no car
Always great content Mr. RTL 😊 Can you settle my fear of adding a Diablo tuner? I read a lot on challenger forumz about cars running to lean or to rich and causing knock and they can’t figure it out. I’m not a tuning expert but love the idea of picking up a another 20+ on the ponies and torque. I’m running with a 2022 5.7 Shaker with hellcat intake and larger throttle body. warranty is a non issue. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
If you're worried about the diablo tune - you can always get in touch with EFI Specialities. They will give you a custom tune for you to load up on your diablo to account for any upgrades & adjust the proper air/fuel. I didn't have any issues with the 93 diablo tune but email tuning is amazing. Thank you for the support - hope that helps a little.
Thanks for the quick response. I’m leaning towards the standard i3 … not the Platinum. Do you think I’ll see any HP/TQ gains with a canned tune? Ps…you’re new ride is sweet!
@@BillysWWF I noticed a big time jump in my 5.7L R/T a while back when I loaded up the 93 diablo tune. Check out this 5.7 ram that loaded up the 93 tune ua-cam.com/video/NonLiH7CA_M/v-deo.html
@@RTLife You'll get it once your power level goes up. Some times stickier tires can also cause it. Highly recommend the drag kit from AAD Performance. 😈
@@monty3927 You got the Per4mance brace? You should either add the diff locket or solid bushings if swapping out the diff. It'll help a ton! Same with rear cradle bushings.
Yes. they can see if you messed with the PCM. But if you're just going there for maintenance work - it will not matter. Some dealerships also look the other way
There's 2 options though. You can either do a swap, where #'s no longer match; or you can simply get your original unlocked & re-install it. I did the latter, but I also do my own maintenance. I say the more time you spend worrying about warranties, the more gray hairs & wrinkles you'll have; & less time having fun & enjoying life! MOPAR OR NO CAR!!!!! 🤘🤘
@@RTLife not yet but im def planning to hit a track soon. I recently got into cars and i havent even had this thing long lol bought it brand new 13 months ago and did a texas speed stage 2 package about 3 months ago by high psi in TX. Ive roll raced with alot and i will say since ive done the mods ive been walking everything ive lined up with 😂.
@@notacarguy392 So just a cam and valve train then most likely. I had to look it up and dig through their website, when people say stuff like stage 2 kit or stage 3 intake, stage 2 exhaust, nobody has any idea what the hell they’re talking about unless they go to the exact place they bought it from and see how the manufacturer defines the different stages. I’m not trying to be an ass, just letting you know that it’s confusing for everyone else. It’s one of my biggest car community pet peeves. 😬 It’s a lot like asking someone what their car made on the dino and them saying it made 500. 500 horsepower? 500 lb/ft of torque? 500 kilowatts? 500 newtons? Nobody knows. Tune in next week. Anyways, peace player and enjoy that scat. Hopefully I will be able to buy one soon myself, thinking about selling my z28.
I run the 93 diablo tune on E85. I think the 93 gi es, like, 25hp and 25 ft/lbs. And the proflex Commander (to run E85) adds 30-35hp. Definitely noticeable power gains. And Mines a 6 speed with the 3.90 rear end. Absolutely love it. Awesome content bruh!!🤘🤘
I'm pumped to try this on the 392. With my 5.7L it was a noticeable difference. Thank you for the info- def will help with expectations & possible results.
@R/T Life Yeah I agree. Money gies quick. Last time I had 12k invested. But it was fun. Just dont know if I should use Diablo for tuning again or try the HP tuners route this time.
@@brokelahomachickenfry6497 HP will give you more options & finer tuning capabilities. Plus every pro tuner i've seen uses HP Tuners. They just came out with their MPVI3 not long ago, right after I just got the MPVI2+! 😭 It adds BT connectivity, so no need for wires.
@DJ G-Roc how does that work with the 2022 models? I heard that I believe it was 2019 and newer have to get an access cable in the trunk due to the obdii locked thatvare inside the car? Either of yall have info or advice? I want to get my additional pcm and start getting tunes. But, I also had a hard time getting reliable tunes with the cam last time. Most of mine will have to be emailed to me here in Oklahoma. I really want someone who delas with hemis reguarly. I thought about High Horse Performance.
@@brokelahomachickenfry6497 Yes, for the 2018 & cars, you'll need to install an ODB2 bypass cable in the trunk to use anything that requires an ODB2 connection. Not sure how well that'll work with the DiabloSport, but if you get the new MPVI3 from HP, it uses bluetooth. Being that you're in OK, it should be an easy run down to the DFW area if you're anywhere near I-35. Lots of good tuning shops down there I hear. Check out Demonology's channel, & you'll get a few. I've been having a hard time finding reputable tuners here in AZ as well, so I feel your pain. Driving to TX is simply outta the question. HHP does have good stuff to BTW, but they're in Delaware.
Bro do you have steady like 9-5 job or do you rely on your videos for your main income. Just wondering, these mods aren’t cheap, I have about $10,000 into my 392 charger. Coil overs, rims and tires, and full corsa cat back exhaust. Next is some long tubes and the tune. Just wondering, I get it if you don’t want to share that info
I am sure you will run under 4.0 0-60. Don't know if you remember my video or not but I ran a 3.9 in the Charger bone stock on a 555R. You will do it in that lighter Challenger. Here's the video link if you want to go back and look at it. I detail how I got the quickest times. ua-cam.com/video/mUTSUv9dxrk/v-deo.html I actually think with more time (practice) I could have trimmed that by 1-2 tenths. I bet you get a 3.6-3.7 out of it before the tune. All guesses and speculation of course. LOL. Can't wait to see what number you can run.
I remember seeing a handful of videos showing off 0-60 times under 4 seconds which I think is really impressive. Shows how much low end torque the 392 makes
Well this isn’t staying stock very long I’m ready for a nasty n/a build have yet to see a video of 550-600 whp on stock displacement n/a just wondering if that’s something you can possibly do see lt1/coyote cars do it all the time and want mine in that range if anyone else has pushed power like this lemme know
That's right above what I'm kind of aiming for with this. I loved having a street ride around the 450-500whp range. with a 392 I'm sure to hit that you'll need full bolt-on, cam & ported heads.
The 6.4L HEMI can easily hit 600 N/A hrsprs with the right mods & tuning. Basically need polished & ported heads, nice cam, valve-train upgrade to accommodate said cam (including MDS delete for auto trans cars), cold air intake, headers, & high flow exhaust. A bigger TB & possibly bigger injectors as well. ✌🤙
About to sell my truck and dump it into the 392 been really searching thinking what you guys are saying is what I need to be in that 550-600 whp range and if I went e85 should be even closer to 600 also thinking about forged internals to bump compression and also allow it to wrap out to 7 grand as long as I don’t have any restrictions or valve float hopefully it’s not too much to put down as a street focused car but I’d rather go all out the first time than do a simple cam/longtubes and possibly want more
@@keilwhittles9190 If you go with fully forged internals, then you can easily through a super charger/procharger on it. Pump the boost up to like 15 psi, & you're running with or outrunning Hellcats. Hell, if you wanna go that route might as well bore it out to 426ci, throw in an Arrington stroker kit, & then the blower & be making over a 1000 hrsprs. Arrington already has create engines available! 💪🏼
@@carlosestrada9824 Stop thinking about it, & just do it! 😉 When I picked up my '15 R/T back in '17, it had the rear resonators removed already by the previous owner. Didn't know it at the time, but it sounded savage. From what I've been able to tell, the difference between the mid muffler & the resonator is the tone. The mid delete has hollow or bellowing sound to me. Resonator delete makes it loud & rumble.
Did you ruin your warranty for making your car louder, or do you own your car out right. I would love to make my 2022 Dodge Challenger 392 R/T Scat Pack louder. But they said it would ruin my warranty. ☹️☹️☹️☹️
The mid muffler delete like he has doesn't void the warranty. However, if you have issues with the exhaust afterwards, the stealership most likely won't cover it under warranty. This is why you're better off getting a catback exhaust kit rather than hacking up your factory exhaust. Obviously it's more expensive, but you could always swap it back if you needed/wanted to. I personally like the MagnaFlow X-mod kit. That's what I'd go with if I had it to do over again. It gives you the option for mufflers or no mufflers. 😈
@R/T Life ohhhhhh.... I thought it ruined all of the warranty. I asked the dealership about getting a mid muffler delete, and they told me it would ruin my warranty. Didn't know that. Hmmmm 🤔 🤔 🤔 Now I must look into this, lol. I want my Scat to sound louder.
@@steadycuzzin5813 The stealerships will say & do anything to save money. Long tube headers & bigger pipes will do the trick. I admit that I was disappointed in my first catback kit when connected to OEM mid pipes. Adding long tubes & high flow cats changed the game! 😈
@@RTLifeust leave it be lol after u do one mod it never ends u have the fastest one around hands down lol get it out more often brother your ass is like me and never drives it hahaah
You know any good tuners in New York ? I bought long tubes for my 392 and I’m looking for a tuner now that can dynk tune and make my car run safely and healthy with the headers. It’s kinda hard to find good hemi tuners I feel like.
I ended up going with EFI Specialities - so it's a bit of a drive if you want a dyno tune. He can do remote tuning though. That's the same tuner Modern Red Hemi & Mackbuilt has
@@mrdr_392 I don't know, as I don't live there. They do have emissions testing where I live. I was simply trying to make others aware that removing your cats, while it does give you a performance bump, it'll usually cause your vehicle to fail emissions testing. Therefore you should check your local laws before doing a cat delete if you want to drive it on the street.
I love the starting point of the 392. This thing is going to be an absolute monster when I'm done with it!!!
Yessir 💪🏾💯
Did you get rid of the charger ?
@@blacksrt8243 Bro did you even watch the video? lol
Would it work on a cammed 2009 challenger RT. Compcam HRT stage 2 cam master kit minus the lifter they were out got engine tech roller lifters and shorty headers also phase locked VVT. Had a place adjudt cam but still only dyno at 358??? Should be 400whp at least car dies on me going from reverse to drive or neutral to drive unless i hit gas quick after
A couple people suggest FRP tuner but what do you think would be better FRP or T2?
Dude! 15% under drive ATI crank pulley, send the intake out for porting. Both mods require no tuning. @Mackbuilt proved this out! 10-15 HP per mod!!!
That's awesome congrats on the Scatpack, Dave katz is actually tuning my scat pack also. The guy is awesome, super nice guy, and responds to your emails right on point. Awesome customer service 👍
Love it! Can't wait to see your results so I can make a decision for my Scat!
Once I have the Charger back I'm going to make some moves with this scatpack. For now I'm having a blast stock!!!
Excited to watch as you build up your 392! Glad you went with this platform because I can see how these mods work for you before I get them haha. Just picked myself up that exact bravado wheel for my scat too. Take care man love the videos!
You're going to love those wheels! Can't wait to get them on my 392 - this thing should kick me back big time once it has proper traction!
Nice and easy changes.
Nothing to drastic
I like it.
Nice work.
Can't wait to watch it rip.
keeping it subtle. Once I get the itch for more power, it will be ready for it now.
Should consider a hellcat airbox w/airtube to headlight and hellcat air filter. Cheap and works great. In Florida typical IATs are about 5* over ambient as long as you are moving and getting air. 100 buck BMR (or any brand you like) lower control arms are also helpful for launches to help avoid hop, which be damaging. Enjoying your 392 progress!
I've never had wheel hop but I've seen it. I'll def check out some control arms. This 392 will be ripping soon enough - but i'm loving the HP/Torque level as is for now.
@@RTLife actually BMR lists them as
LTA110 Lower Trailing Arms, Non-adjustable, Poly Bushings
Def worth the hundred bucks. Easy install and minimum added noise. Changing the uppers and other bushings is harder and for me not worth the hassle.
I did one in mine since it came with older style hellcat hood with heat extractors and I was worried about rain in the vents so I liked it closed off but if I had the older style hood I would have definitely went with the jlt either ways a win though
Should just get the drag kit from AAD instead. Has the upper & lower rear control arms that are billet aluminum & fully adjustable. BMR's rear cradle & diff lockouts are a must though! 👍🤙
I bought the 1320, and added the HC lower box and headlight intake tube.. it does have about 4-5 degrees above ambient
Love your channel!! I got a 2021 392 wide body frost bite charger , just did a legmaker intake, long tube headers and unlock pcm tune!! The car runs like a beast!!!!
Nice! It's amazing how much fun these 392's are. Keep on enjoying it man & thank you for the support
I have a Diablosport i3 tuner, worked out great for me. I have uploaded a canned 91 octane tune in both my hemi Chrysler 300C(made them into rocketships with just a canned tune!)and my '12 Challenger R/T M6 hemi, and it was most noticeable on the Chrysler, raised redline to 6300 RPM and shift points are at 5900 to 6 grand even w/5-speed automatic, and M6 car has also been turned up.
Great video, thanks man!
It's amazing how much of a difference the canned tune makes right?!?! So many people don't realize how good the canned tune is on the diablo
@@RTLife the 300C runs hard enough now to torch off around a 5 second 70-100 time which is darn decent for a "passing" gear on the highway.
Looking forward to everything you do for the 392 in future, awesome score.
This thing is a blast to drive around in. Love having it so far
I’m definitely keeping my 392 now and following the journey with you!
Holy crap! an actual "How-To" video from RT Life! Nice!!! Regarding the PCM swap - a dealer is going to know if you swapped the stock PCM in and out, so that's really kind of pointless. It all depends on your dealer - if they wanna make an issue out of it they will, regardless of which PCM is installed when you bring it in for service, because they WILL know that it was swapped. For this reason, I chose to just replace my stock PCM without keeping my original, and the money i saved went to other mods. Also, I blew out the rear end of my hellcat WITH an unlocked PCM installed. My dealer still replaced the rear under warranty even though they knew I swapped the PCM. Moral of the story - find a good dealer.
yah that's pretty much the reason I did the swap. They know but still some people can play stupid if their Stock PCM is in & there's no other upgrades in place.
I'm sooooo glad you got one of these!!!!!!💯😎
Thanks man. Def having a lot of fun so far!
Well, I guess I’ll have to start gathering more bricks for the new wall. I’m happy to see BIG BLUE is still getting the love it deserves. 😎😎😎😎
Once Big Blue is back I'll be getting some content out there for it. I miss that thing so much. So hard going this long without that R/T!
Dang, I was busy last night. Excited to see where we gooooooooo. Yea I comment multiple times. Builds the algorithm lol
hahaha you are the man! I'm pumped to see what this 392 has in it.
Two monsters for sure when you are done with them. Can’t wait to see blue back on here!
Dude this is going to be a dream! Having a Charger/Challenger build combo. Thanks man
@@RTLife for sure!!
I would even say swap out your stock springs for 1320 or drag springs since you’re planning for the track with this. Squat and go and it feels good! Got mines installed today and it feels good!
At some point I think I'll go with adjustable coilovers. The suspension on this is pretty solid as is though - they did a great job with the scatpacks
Scat packs come with half inch drop from factory and bilstien shocks
Good stuff buddy. Looking forward to what you do with it.
I'm having way to much fun as is! This thing with some upgrades is going to be lights out.
@@RTLife No doubt! I think this car is going to be good for your channel. Your Charger was getting to be a car that was in an unattainable price for most. I think this Challenger will do well because it is very attainable. Adding all that power can be frustrating too with all the reliability issues.
yah the charger is getting to that crazy expensive level. It's nice to make content that most can relate to.
@@RTLife Yeah. I think it will pay dividends.
I'm whatching this build 👏
You have a beast of a Challenger my man. Def appreciate the support!
You got 2 awesome cars. I love N/A power and I'm more partial to the Challenger. Been considering getting a Challenger myself after I'm done will my Ram build.
I love driving the challenger. Very different feeling then the Charger. You're going to enjoy having one & modding it up. Thanks man, def appreciate it.
Sounds like so much fun! Looking forward to the upgrades!
I'm just going to have fun with it! These 392's are a blast even stock
You can also mail your PCM to diablo to have it unlocked for $200. If you can be without the vehicle for about a week and already own a diablo tuner.
True! I couldn't do that - at least right now. Still a solid option if you have a daily driver
Looking forward to the build! I just added 87mm throttle body and E85....man what a difference! Even without a tune.👍
Nice! e85 is def a big time upgrade. I was thinking of doing a hellcat intake & larger throttle body. Adds some nice torque down low
How the hell are you running E85 without a tune???
How u running E85 no tune
@@edwardpaige2809 I am using a flex kit .. I can tell a difference.. lot more pull and torque. Can't wait to see a tune.
@XRT Hemi how does that work? How is it hooked up u got me curious and excited lol
Happy belated Birthday R man, hope it was a great one. Not sure how far South you are in Florida, but we are picking up our 23 300 C in Hickory NC once it’s built and delivered. Maybe we can get down your way on the drive back home from there.
I'm right outside of Orlando. We can def meet up somewhere - I'd love to see that new 300c! Thank you very much for the BDay wish - hope all is good on your end.
I can’t wait for the journey of this car and see the end result
I'm going to enjoy modding up this 392. Stock I've been having a blast!
Can’t wait!!
it's going to get interesting. These 392's are a blast!
Get a set of proline eibach springs! Very Suttle drop tightened up the wheel gap and no need for a camber kit! Mine have been amazing and no uneven tire wear!
Hey BRO been subscribed since you had 3000 peeps....Had a scat for the last five years...been sleeping on you...but no more!
I just got this scatpack - def has been a blast! 392 is a beast
Love it!
Thanks man! Hope all is good on your end
@@RTLife Doing well man! Likewise
At the strip 12.1-12.3 for the casual racer. That's me. We will see what the front runners do in the spring.
That's likely where I will be - low 12's. I'm just not there enough to really get that dream pass! Those front runners should help though.
Challenger is sounding really good. But that charger is amazing.😊
I love them both! hahaha - they're like my 2 kids now. The Charger is a monster!
Yea that changer is a beasts
I got a fast 5.7 i am building it now
This car looks good and is a great addition to the charger.
I always dreamed of a Charger/Challenger combo. To me it's cool having one in red & other in blue
Sheesh went shopping I see 💯🔥🔥
Hell yah! Def need to get my Charger back so I can start messing with this thing hahaa
When you getting your SRT-8 back???
So i got a Jeep SRT and i want too chop the suit case out. Does that void warranty. ? I have a service active dampening sys. Still has warranty
I'm so glad I went with a 392 instead of a 5.7.
Sup bro I recently bought the Diablo tuner changed some parameters. But now thinking of changing it to 93 tune. Is a 2014 300 5.7 and I have a question do you have to change the gas before tune or after the 93 tune?
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thanks man! Def appreciate it
Im making 500wheel on my scat and im not even full bolt on yet, i do have a ton of supporting mods and the 6.4 loves it.
Nice! Shows how easy it is to build power with a 392. They're a great starting point for building power
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Thanks man!
Please do the widebody kit on the challenger too !!!!
I am having Valvetronic universal mufflers installed in my scat. Have you heard of them? Valvetronic for mids and vibrant 1142 for rear resonators. MFER-1 to deactivate factory active exhaust. With Valvetronic can open or close valve with key fob or even Homelink garage door buttons.
I have to look into them. You should upload some videos of how it sounds. I'm always interested to hear some new setups
@@RTLife yea I will lol. Will be my first ever video upload to UA-cam lol
@@RTLifethis is an example of the concept but on a hellcat. ua-cam.com/video/Jqh8gJ27USc/v-deo.html
T2 over an FRP tuner for a cammed RT 2009 challenger vvt locked?
Excited for the build. Sold my 2020 wide body scat and missed it. Just recently added a 2010 6.1 to the garage but missing that 392 power. Wonder what options I have to get to stock 392 levels. Love the videos.
New Camshaft & long tubes - that will easily get that 6.1L to 430whp range. Those 6.1's are great for building power but I def understand enjoying that 392 power level.
6.1’s take boost a lot better than 6.4’s so that’s always an option, you could probably get away with 10-12 psi atock everything, but of course heads, cam, long tubes, exhaust and such will make the most of it
I believe the Apache heads will fit the 6.1L block perfectly, unlike the 5.7L block. That alone will help it breathe better. Then like the rest have already said: Intake, cam, & exhaust will do the rest. 😉
I found if you unbolt the cross bar and swing it out of the way the PCM comes so much easier
I can def see that being easier! The way I do it is such a pain in the ass lol
Totally agree. Gives you more room with those bigass connectors. Should loosen driver's side bolts just enough, then remove the passenger side. Will let you move the cross-member all the way to the strut cap. Just make sure you get the "hook" for the wiper motor when you put is back. 😉
I heard you need a special cable jumper that is behind the console as well
That is for the 2018+. They decided to make it more of a pain in the ass!
Boost cam then boost. 🙌
Oh man - boost cam, drop in pistons & this thing will be making wild power!
@@RTLife Heck ya can’t wait to see what you decide. Takes time but definitely worth it.
Great information man on the T2 tunner. Never heard of that stuff. Does that void the factory warranty?
If something big happens they'll likely turn you away because of the unlocked PCM & tuning. That said some dealerships look the other way & honor warranty work
@RTLife Thanks man. Yeah that's interesting. I will probably wait anyway until my Warranty expires before I do any kind of turning.
I’m doing the pcm swap program next week hopefully
Once you unlock that PCM it's game on with these hemi's! You're going to love it
@@RTLife for sure! I can’t wait.
4:23 it will always throw a code if it’s been tampered with regardless.
I agree with that. Some dealerships look the other way if you're warranty work isn't major or routine maintenance
I know you like Diablo but hp tuners just need the device you do not need a laptop all you need is a cell phone to data log read and write tunes and you can send them any where and you have track addict. On t&t days I use my laptop. in race events I use my phone to keep 6 pounds lighter lol my tuner gets my logs in 30 seconds with hp tuners new soft wear. I don't need wires I can use Bluetooth for phone or laptop and if I give my tuner a code he can see everything on demand I just want to clear things up about hp tuners. Mickeys going to work great on the scat. Keep up with the great content mopar or no car
T2 is the best Mopar tuner. As we all Moapa fans know.. love mine on my 2013
Couldn't agree anymore. I love mine & think it's so easy to use. Hard to move onto another option
What exhaust did you go with or did you just do a mid delete?
I knew it 🤣 this thing is gonna be stock
Oh yeah stock my rear trunk 😂
Who’s someone I can trust for bolt on 5.7 email tune?
EFI Specialities - Dave K is the man. He has my Charger ripping!
Man ur challenger sounds nice
I love it. So much fun to drive around! Thanks man
@@RTLife wish I could show u my 2020 charger RT
Shoot me a message on instagram @RTLife_397
@@RTLife don't have it just FB and my number
When did you get the Challenger? And what happened with the black and blue
I bought the challenger around Christmas time. It's going to be the new channel car.
Always great content Mr. RTL 😊 Can you settle my fear of adding a Diablo tuner? I read a lot on challenger forumz about cars running to lean or to rich and causing knock and they can’t figure it out. I’m not a tuning expert but love the idea of picking up a another 20+ on the ponies and torque. I’m running with a 2022 5.7 Shaker with hellcat intake and larger throttle body. warranty is a non issue. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
If you're worried about the diablo tune - you can always get in touch with EFI Specialities. They will give you a custom tune for you to load up on your diablo to account for any upgrades & adjust the proper air/fuel. I didn't have any issues with the 93 diablo tune but email tuning is amazing. Thank you for the support - hope that helps a little.
Thanks for the quick response. I’m leaning towards the standard i3 … not the Platinum. Do you think I’ll see any HP/TQ gains with a canned tune? Ps…you’re new ride is sweet!
@@BillysWWF I noticed a big time jump in my 5.7L R/T a while back when I loaded up the 93 diablo tune. Check out this 5.7 ram that loaded up the 93 tune
ua-cam.com/video/NonLiH7CA_M/v-deo.html
Wheel hop Eliminator kit !!!
if I have any wheel hop that is going to be installed ASAP
@@RTLife You'll get it once your power level goes up. Some times stickier tires can also cause it. Highly recommend the drag kit from AAD Performance. 😈
I just added mine. Also have a 3.91 diff with a diff brace going in. Definitely trying to see 11s
@@monty3927 You got the Per4mance brace? You should either add the diff locket or solid bushings if swapping out the diff. It'll help a ton! Same with rear cradle bushings.
To me scats are bolt on bruisers, hellcat airbox, tune, tire, and be done with it and just enjoy it.
Yah - they may not be dyno queens but even with those bolt-ons you're throwing up some nice times!
@@RTLife honestly people need to stop chasing numbers and just drive what they have. People thing everything has to make 600+ nowadays it seems.
I have the same Diablo tuner. I've been using jay green. Who do you use? I have the same scat in white.
EFI Specialities - ask for Dave. Dude is a hemi genius - you will love his tune
@R/T Life thanks man. Appreciate it.
Are you gonna get it lowered? I lowered mine, looks great but nothing but problems'
I will put coilover suspension on it at some point. I love the lowered look as well but don't want to deal with potholes & dips on the HWY
who did you get the diablo tuner and pcm swap through
I went through Diablo for the tuner & PCM swap package
Unfortunately the PCM swap for warranty work doesnt fly anymore. They know. They always know lol.
yah once they hook up their OBD2 scanner they know.
So will the dealership know that I swapped the unlocked pcm for an locked pcm when I take it in for service?
Yes. they can see if you messed with the PCM. But if you're just going there for maintenance work - it will not matter. Some dealerships also look the other way
There's 2 options though. You can either do a swap, where #'s no longer match; or you can simply get your original unlocked & re-install it. I did the latter, but I also do my own maintenance. I say the more time you spend worrying about warranties, the more gray hairs & wrinkles you'll have; & less time having fun & enjoying life! MOPAR OR NO CAR!!!!! 🤘🤘
Get a cam with those headers. Texas speed stage 2! Reliable and ALOT of power. My scat pack makes 520 wheel horse power now.
Nice! Have you been able to get a 1/4 mile on it yet? That's a solid amount of power
Good god 520 wheel, that’s not far off stock hellcat numbers. Do you just have headers and a cam?
@@RTLife not yet but im def planning to hit a track soon. I recently got into cars and i havent even had this thing long lol bought it brand new 13 months ago and did a texas speed stage 2 package about 3 months ago by high psi in TX. Ive roll raced with alot and i will say since ive done the mods ive been walking everything ive lined up with 😂.
@@love2fight205 full stage 2 package but only about $7800 including tune. I got it done by high psi in texas. All texas speed parts
@@notacarguy392 So just a cam and valve train then most likely. I had to look it up and dig through their website, when people say stuff like stage 2 kit or stage 3 intake, stage 2 exhaust, nobody has any idea what the hell they’re talking about unless they go to the exact place they bought it from and see how the manufacturer defines the different stages. I’m not trying to be an ass, just letting you know that it’s confusing for everyone else. It’s one of my biggest car community pet peeves. 😬
It’s a lot like asking someone what their car made on the dino and them saying it made 500.
500 horsepower? 500 lb/ft of torque? 500 kilowatts? 500 newtons? Nobody knows. Tune in next week. Anyways, peace player and enjoy that scat. Hopefully I will be able to buy one soon myself, thinking about selling my z28.
I run the 93 diablo tune on E85. I think the 93 gi es, like, 25hp and 25 ft/lbs. And the proflex Commander (to run E85) adds 30-35hp. Definitely noticeable power gains. And Mines a 6 speed with the 3.90 rear end. Absolutely love it. Awesome content bruh!!🤘🤘
I'm pumped to try this on the 392. With my 5.7L it was a noticeable difference. Thank you for the info- def will help with expectations & possible results.
Mine is also a 6 speed and wanted to do the Diablo tuner but keep hearing it's a waste! You really do notice a difference?
How many miles does your scatpack have
Why not go with a jay Greene tune down the line? I heard he's one of the best hemi tuners
I've used his tuning in the past. EFI is currently tuning my Charger so I'd like to stick with them. Dave knows his stuff - big time!
U still need a tuning device and unlocked pcm to be tuned by jay greene
I did a custom build to my 392. 750 rear wheel hp wow
What did you do and what did it cost you? Power output worth the investment?
Is that T2 worth the risk of a smash and grab theft? What instruments does it provide that you don’t get from the performance pages?
It allows you to add HP/Torque - when you're not driving you can always remove the t2 from the holder
@@RTLife thx! I get the tuning piece. I didn’t know they were an easy “plug and play” unplug and do it all over again
i literally just ran an 11.9 in a stock 19 charrger 392 with M/T on the rear only
crazy how much improvement a 392 gets once you give it proper traction! Nicely done
@@RTLife need to get you one of these pistol grip shifters for yours and the chally
Any good auto shop that do tunes you can recommend me to I’m located in the queens Ny area I have a 2020 Rt plus
Are you ok with remote tuning or traveling? I really like using EFI Specialities - Dave tunes my Charger & it drives fantastic.
traveling i'm more into just paying to get it done
Who did your tune or was that just an example file?
EFI specialists tunes my Charger 397
Im just starting again as well with a 22 rt challenger.
One mod at a time. Enjoy the process man!
@R/T Life Yeah I agree. Money gies quick. Last time I had 12k invested. But it was fun. Just dont know if I should use Diablo for tuning again or try the HP tuners route this time.
@@brokelahomachickenfry6497 HP will give you more options & finer tuning capabilities. Plus every pro tuner i've seen uses HP Tuners. They just came out with their MPVI3 not long ago, right after I just got the MPVI2+! 😭 It adds BT connectivity, so no need for wires.
@DJ G-Roc how does that work with the 2022 models?
I heard that I believe it was 2019 and newer have to get an access cable in the trunk due to the obdii locked thatvare inside the car?
Either of yall have info or advice? I want to get my additional pcm and start getting tunes. But, I also had a hard time getting reliable tunes with the cam last time. Most of mine will have to be emailed to me here in Oklahoma. I really want someone who delas with hemis reguarly. I thought about High Horse Performance.
@@brokelahomachickenfry6497 Yes, for the 2018 & cars, you'll need to install an ODB2 bypass cable in the trunk to use anything that requires an ODB2 connection. Not sure how well that'll work with the DiabloSport, but if you get the new MPVI3 from HP, it uses bluetooth.
Being that you're in OK, it should be an easy run down to the DFW area if you're anywhere near I-35. Lots of good tuning shops down there I hear. Check out Demonology's channel, & you'll get a few. I've been having a hard time finding reputable tuners here in AZ as well, so I feel your pain. Driving to TX is simply outta the question. HHP does have good stuff to BTW, but they're in Delaware.
Noice! Did you need a bypass cable?
No I don't. Pretty sure the bypass is needed in 18+
@@RTLife Correct my friend. Only '18 & up need the bypass cable. And for those that missed it, '14 & older are not locked.
BBK vs Kooks Long Tube headers
Both are solid options
BBK are definitely cheaper, but I love my Kooks!!! 😉
Bro do you have steady like 9-5 job or do you rely on your videos for your main income. Just wondering, these mods aren’t cheap, I have about $10,000 into my 392 charger. Coil overs, rims and tires, and full corsa cat back exhaust. Next is some long tubes and the tune. Just wondering, I get it if you don’t want to share that info
You should get a friend and race both your cars to see how the 392 does to a heavy modded one
Anyone I know would kick my ass in a race right now. I need to find a bolt-on 392
When you tune it did you avoid your warranty
Once you unlock the PCM - it's all up in the air!
@@RTLife Thanks
I am sure you will run under 4.0 0-60. Don't know if you remember my video or not but I ran a 3.9 in the Charger bone stock on a 555R. You will do it in that lighter Challenger. Here's the video link if you want to go back and look at it. I detail how I got the quickest times. ua-cam.com/video/mUTSUv9dxrk/v-deo.html I actually think with more time (practice) I could have trimmed that by 1-2 tenths. I bet you get a 3.6-3.7 out of it before the tune. All guesses and speculation of course. LOL. Can't wait to see what number you can run.
I remember seeing a handful of videos showing off 0-60 times under 4 seconds which I think is really impressive. Shows how much low end torque the 392 makes
@@RTLife No question. To propel a 4480 pound Widebody Charger to 60 in under 4 seconds is ridiculous. Bone stock at that.
Mine is still under warranty I can't do anything for awhile
I don't blame you. Once that warranty is up - it's game time!
@R/T Life lmfao!!! Yup
Well this isn’t staying stock very long I’m ready for a nasty n/a build have yet to see a video of 550-600 whp on stock displacement n/a just wondering if that’s something you can possibly do see lt1/coyote cars do it all the time and want mine in that range if anyone else has pushed power like this lemme know
That's right above what I'm kind of aiming for with this. I loved having a street ride around the 450-500whp range. with a 392 I'm sure to hit that you'll need full bolt-on, cam & ported heads.
Yeah I was thinking heads where a must for what I was looking for, definitely looking forward to seeing reach your goals
The 6.4L HEMI can easily hit 600 N/A hrsprs with the right mods & tuning. Basically need polished & ported heads, nice cam, valve-train upgrade to accommodate said cam (including MDS delete for auto trans cars), cold air intake, headers, & high flow exhaust. A bigger TB & possibly bigger injectors as well. ✌🤙
About to sell my truck and dump it into the 392 been really searching thinking what you guys are saying is what I need to be in that 550-600 whp range and if I went e85 should be even closer to 600 also thinking about forged internals to bump compression and also allow it to wrap out to 7 grand as long as I don’t have any restrictions or valve float hopefully it’s not too much to put down as a street focused car but I’d rather go all out the first time than do a simple cam/longtubes and possibly want more
@@keilwhittles9190 If you go with fully forged internals, then you can easily through a super charger/procharger on it. Pump the boost up to like 15 psi, & you're running with or outrunning Hellcats. Hell, if you wanna go that route might as well bore it out to 426ci, throw in an Arrington stroker kit, & then the blower & be making over a 1000 hrsprs. Arrington already has create engines available! 💪🏼
Are tune’s already loaded on the t2?
Yes there are a few tunes already on a T2 that you can use & adjust
Not hp tuners ?
I prefer diablo. Hp seems to be more accepted for tuning shops - I think because of how much quicker it is to load up tune adjustments.
DiableSport is more user friendly. HP requires that you have a laptop connected to your car, & way more advanced.
Diablo is more convenient okay well I’m excited to see what you can do with that 6.4 especially against newer cars !
R/T Life all u have on thar 392 is a mid muffler delete? Sounds bad ass
Yes. Just the mids deleted - sounds so good while driving. Thanks man
@@RTLife i was thinking about doing it too my R/T Charger 5.7
@@carlosestrada9824 Stop thinking about it, & just do it! 😉 When I picked up my '15 R/T back in '17, it had the rear resonators removed already by the previous owner. Didn't know it at the time, but it sounded savage. From what I've been able to tell, the difference between the mid muffler & the resonator is the tone. The mid delete has hollow or bellowing sound to me. Resonator delete makes it loud & rumble.
@@DJGRoc appreciate that man 😎👍🏽 💯 thanks for the tip and info brother
@@carlosestrada9824 You're welcome, & enjoy bro! 🤙✌
Did you ruin your warranty for making your car louder, or do you own your car out right. I would love to make my 2022 Dodge Challenger 392 R/T Scat Pack louder. But they said it would ruin my warranty. ☹️☹️☹️☹️
You just lose your exhaust warranty. I don't really mind losing that
The mid muffler delete like he has doesn't void the warranty. However, if you have issues with the exhaust afterwards, the stealership most likely won't cover it under warranty. This is why you're better off getting a catback exhaust kit rather than hacking up your factory exhaust. Obviously it's more expensive, but you could always swap it back if you needed/wanted to. I personally like the MagnaFlow X-mod kit. That's what I'd go with if I had it to do over again. It gives you the option for mufflers or no mufflers. 😈
@R/T Life ohhhhhh.... I thought it ruined all of the warranty. I asked the dealership about getting a mid muffler delete, and they told me it would ruin my warranty. Didn't know that.
Hmmmm 🤔 🤔 🤔
Now I must look into this, lol. I want my Scat to sound louder.
@@DJGRoc I will definitely look into that.
@@steadycuzzin5813 The stealerships will say & do anything to save money.
Long tube headers & bigger pipes will do the trick. I admit that I was disappointed in my first catback kit when connected to OEM mid pipes. Adding long tubes & high flow cats changed the game! 😈
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Thanks man, def appreciate it
What you do for living boss ?
Work online - mostly graphic related
No fun being an adult. LOL
hahaha def no fun adulting! All that responsibility
@@RTLife Who needs it. LOL
Can this beat the wife’s jeep SRT????
She sold that SRT. This would beat it though if it had drag radials
Yeah, Having to adult sucks…
See what I said your all ready trying to make it faster cause it’s no good lol 😂 just take it back and get a cat bruh while u can
LOL - nah man. If I want wild speed I'll take a ride in my 397
I want between 450-500whp in this thing. I had so much fun when my R/T was at that level
@@RTLifeust leave it be lol after u do one mod it never ends u have the fastest one around hands down lol get it out more often brother your ass is like me and never drives it hahaah
@@RTLifelove ya ether way u know I gotta bust balls hahaa I knew u wouldn’t leave it stock us mopar guys can’t help there selfs lol
@@RTLife Doesn't take much to get the 392 there, as it's not far off as is. 👍
392 .......upgrade get a hellcat
You know any good tuners in New York ? I bought long tubes for my 392 and I’m looking for a tuner now that can dynk tune and make my car run safely and healthy with the headers. It’s kinda hard to find good hemi tuners I feel like.
I ended up going with EFI Specialities - so it's a bit of a drive if you want a dyno tune. He can do remote tuning though. That's the same tuner Modern Red Hemi & Mackbuilt has
brooo go catless header would be great for content not many people have long tubes on the scats. olus it would sound so much better
yah catless does sound deeper plus as you keep modding that extra air flow helps with hp/torque
@@RTLife Just bad for emissions.
@@DJGRoc doesnt florida not have emissions ?
@@mrdr_392 I don't know, as I don't live there. They do have emissions testing where I live. I was simply trying to make others aware that removing your cats, while it does give you a performance bump, it'll usually cause your vehicle to fail emissions testing. Therefore you should check your local laws before doing a cat delete if you want to drive it on the street.
I knew it 🤣 this thing is gonna be stock
Oh yeah stock my rear trunk 😂
hahaha! I'm going to hold off loading up a tune for now. Def want to see how it does on a stock tune for a little while
@@RTLife yeeeeaaaah riiiight🫡🤣😉