@@riskrunner4532get grinding in those lost sectors lol you can get 200-300 essence in about 30 minutes. On top of the ingredients and the ship bonus, I've been getting 8-10 rolls an hour.
After 6 days of grinding, 3000 dawning credits, and 150 deleted guns, I've finally given up. Just not worth it when you can just get the hand cannon with Rime and Headstone. I already have a Encore and Kill Clip PVP roll, so I'm done. 😊
love the fact that you can gift about 100 cookies and only get around 20 gifts in return, and then all of the rolls still have the same 4 perks on the guns, i focused 20 of the gifts and only got 1 rime roll
My math is every 1 out of 6 cookies gets you a gift. It's not the gifts that's the issue though. It's the currency used with the gift to focus. Not enough drops. Lol But for sure. Fallout posted a great discussion video on this.
Didn't even watch the video, just got on here to say. I miss destiny 2, i miss the friends i made, the power fantasy I felt when build crafting, the grind, the farm, the struggling LFG team ups, the raids, the ego i got from getting something like even a 5 streak kill from the crucible. I miss it all, i wish this game had a better company, it deserves better.
There is NO SHOT he just said the flinch is easier to handle on controller... flinch is by far worse on controller, and it completely disrupts aim assist. It's the reason they nerfed explosive rose to begin with. If you struggle with this pulse rifle on mouse in a gunfight, controller won't change that.
Try M&K like a grownup. It is easier to mitigate flinch on a controller as you have more aim assist and target acquisition. Mechanically speaking it’s pretty much the same between Ma&K and a controller. But a savy person can us a bit of logic to mitigate that flinch with some pre and post flinch stratagem. Doesn’t matter anyway cause Destiny is in the nursing home and people are starting to visit less frequently.
It feels really really good on controller for. Got hammer forged, accurized, range mw, lone wolf with option to swap to headseeker and kill clip. If we do end up in a lightweight pulse meta, definitely gonna use it
Best time and headstone weapon imo. Easy headshot kills and usually the final burst will also shatter the headstone crystal. That and it's a lightweight so it has naturally high handling and reload. Thing is perfect for warlock and hunter stasis builds.
Bungie did say the Heresy weapons will be worth inspecting once one hits your inventory, but weapons right now need to be on par with Raid weapons to even be worthy of using. Let alone keeping for later.
Cba to grind essence if I'm honest, bungie thinks forcing us to grind means we play the game more, but the dawning weapons aren't worth the time invested IMO
Stay Frosty as a special place in my arsenal. I have a encore, killclip from awhile back and I was able to get 2 burst kills with it. I not sure about the newest ones because I don't wanna play the Auto complete event..
as a pulse rifle enjoyer this is the gun grinding for... i have BXR and chatter bone. but interested to try this. im more of a rapid fire pulse guy tho
Am I the only one that think weightgate isn’t fixed? I literally got 4 enlightened action/adrenaline junkie rolls, 1 enlightened/kill clip, 1 killing wind/adrenaline, and 1 enlightened/headseeker. At least to me there’s an obvious pattern. Adrenaline junkie and enlightened action are extremely weighted.
I have a tunnel vision-kill clip roll, but I couldn't even finish the first kill most of the time even though I run double targeting, one dexterity and double unflinching like all other PvP primary's and I couldn't put my finger on it as to why. The flinch just feels more unforgiving on this specific weapon. Also had the same issue with Aisha's Care. I personally think it also has to do with me defaulting more to an auto rifle nowadays even though they are worse than pulses range-wise. But having alot of range doesn't matter if you can't land all the shots due to flinch.
I think it has to do more with input, I’m on controller, I’ve outgunned chattering bone and battler, summoners, stay frosty is nutty, I have quite a few rolls so far moving target and head seeker has been the most consistent
I dont like it either. I like my chattering bone. Or as far as all pulse rifle archetypes go, claws of the wolf is my favorite. I know the stats suck, but it feels so good to me. Double damage perks, and then I'm always getting void surge going when i break my crystals in crucible. It's super strong.
I got lucky with my last pull of the night and got: Arrowhead Tact mag Rimestealer Headstone With range masterwork To me thats my pve god roll that i wanted.
I got lucky and got: Hammerforged Accurized Lone Wolf/Encore Kill Clip on my first focused stay frosty. Unfortunate handling MW, but the dawning grind was boring enough that i didn't care.
I’m with coolguy on this one. Well myself, u need others to help u make a choice on how “U” play the game?? It’s all opinionated anyway, Do U and have fun. 😊
Controller player here. Stay Frosty just doesn’t feel good. The reticle on certain guardians also easily gets lost and I feel like it looks blank. Much prefer Chattering Bone (Kill Clip & Headseaker) or BR (max range, kill clip & killing wind).
Controller player here. Stay Frosty feels Great. The reticle is very accurate for me and never gets lost. I enjoy it alot more than CB & BXR (both crafted with 1k+ pvp kills each). Personally looking forward to the buffs & nerfs of next patch.
I'm a controller player. Been rocking my last year stay frosty with arrowhead, steady rounds, moving target headstone for a while and it's super sticky.
I don't like stay frosty either, chattering bone feels better, but bro! I was trying to grind The Dawning earlier and I got weaseled. Instantly killed my motivation to continue play today.
I’ve burnt myself out on getting this roll. But nope. I got a lot of lone wolf desperado rolls lone wolf headseeker or kill clip rolls too but no rime/headstone
Dawning grind is a joke. I'm continuously falling behind in seasons. There is not enough time in a working persons life. Im slowly saying goodbye to Destiny and it sucks.
I was gonna grind for a good avalanche roll cause I don't have a solar machine gun. But the loot isn't worth grinding cookies, again and again. This event is so sad. I'll just keep playing zombies instead
This is my first time actually playing a seasonal event besides the Halloween one in ages so might just be me but anyone else feel the price requirement to focus the dawning weapons is high? The spirit stuff is what’s making it a slog. Bounties and turning in cookies gives back so little tbh and it takes 25 to focus one wep. Am I missing something?
@@TrueSpartanGodGaming it's not supposed to be the same gun if that's the case why grind anything but strikes if every gun feels like a vanguard weapon. If they didn't switch up the meta the game would become very stale. The quality of the weapons should always sort of correlate with the difficulty to obtain it. It's the core principle of a looter shooter.
@ but trying to balance these guns that u get from those activities makes it hard to balance them in pvp. Ok I see u play trials and get an adept weapon it has higher stats. But if there is one sub that’s an aggressive and u make another sub that’s aggressive and u make those base stats higher than the other y use the other gun if that gun just has better base stats it makes no sense to have the same rpm have better stats than the other that’s the same rpm. That’s all I’m saying.
can they make Bad Juju give us more Super for being in a team after a kill or atleast Super from assist? I want to use the the gun in PVE but I feel no real differance when it comes to Super generation.
I want Rime/Stone roll but it will not drop for me. I've focused 22 Frosty' s so far and no luck. I think I'm done trying for it. I hate RNG so much. The pleasure of finally getting a GodRoll to drop doesn't compare to the frustration and aggravation everytime it doesn't.
If yall have a good Taraxippos roll from Guardian Games, just use that instead of farming this dogshit event. Its lightweight as well. Imma use my Keep Away/Kill Clip since i has some nice stats with the barrel and mag.
Idk, maybe its just me. Never did like the idea of grinding for rolls that synergize with artifact mods. Once those mods are gone, the gun just seems useless after.
I have yet to get a single fucking dawning weapon, The event is so bugged that I can't even progress my upgrades anymore. I literally bought the first snowball upgrade and have not been able to purchase any more since
Fast shooting shit should ONLY work in close quarters and should have a kickback on larger distances - unless you have to sacrifice something for it and build into it! EASE OF USE IS NOT BALANCE!
Its worth it if you dont have the chattering bone. If you already have a chattering bone than dont bother about it as you already have the best frame out of the lightweights. P.s. cross BXR is not a lightweight frame!!
I want a good roll really bad, but Dawning grinding sucks so hard, I feel like a child in the coal mines endlessly grinding Dul.
And then, after about 20 cookies (exaggerating), I get a gift in return and then finally just to get an ass roll 😊
I'm gonna butcher Eva.
@@riskrunner4532get grinding in those lost sectors lol you can get 200-300 essence in about 30 minutes. On top of the ingredients and the ship bonus, I've been getting 8-10 rolls an hour.
Exactly 😢
Lost sectors are a better farm
You can afk farm
After 6 days of grinding, 3000 dawning credits, and 150 deleted guns, I've finally given up. Just not worth it when you can just get the hand cannon with Rime and Headstone. I already have a Encore and Kill Clip PVP roll, so I'm done. 😊
I have last year's moving target headseeker. I'm ready to go.
They let you upgrade that version?
@@deejayy8303 yes
@@deejayy8303yes
I have the same roll from last year that's been my go to PVP gun, and they added the ability to upgrade it around a month before the Dawning
@deejayy8303 yes I have one from last year , encore/hs&kc already enhanced from beginning of act 1
love the fact that you can gift about 100 cookies and only get around 20 gifts in return, and then all of the rolls still have the same 4 perks on the guns, i focused 20 of the gifts and only got 1 rime roll
My math is every 1 out of 6 cookies gets you a gift. It's not the gifts that's the issue though. It's the currency used with the gift to focus. Not enough drops. Lol
But for sure.
Fallout posted a great discussion video on this.
The battler will always reign supreme
Even withput the coming buff, that thing is SCARY good!!
Rimestealer/Headstone with Icefall Mantle has been my bread and butter since the dawning started, feels so good when I gotta play safe.
I can't even get that to drop, only pvp rolls
I keep getting rimestealer but not with headstone and when i get a headstone roll i don't get rimestealer even with double perk drops
Didn't even watch the video, just got on here to say. I miss destiny 2, i miss the friends i made, the power fantasy I felt when build crafting, the grind, the farm, the struggling LFG team ups, the raids, the ego i got from getting something like even a 5 streak kill from the crucible. I miss it all, i wish this game had a better company, it deserves better.
There is NO SHOT he just said the flinch is easier to handle on controller... flinch is by far worse on controller, and it completely disrupts aim assist. It's the reason they nerfed explosive rose to begin with. If you struggle with this pulse rifle on mouse in a gunfight, controller won't change that.
It’s terrible on controller, ur right!!
@@kisukeurahara189damn right
FACTS!!!
Try M&K like a grownup. It is easier to mitigate flinch on a controller as you have more aim assist and target acquisition. Mechanically speaking it’s pretty much the same between Ma&K and a controller. But a savy person can us a bit of logic to mitigate that flinch with some pre and post flinch stratagem. Doesn’t matter anyway cause Destiny is in the nursing home and people are starting to visit less frequently.
10 rolls and no rimestealer and headstone... This sucks man...
It feels really really good on controller for. Got hammer forged, accurized, range mw, lone wolf with option to swap to headseeker and kill clip. If we do end up in a lightweight pulse meta, definitely gonna use it
Best time and headstone weapon imo. Easy headshot kills and usually the final burst will also shatter the headstone crystal. That and it's a lightweight so it has naturally high handling and reload. Thing is perfect for warlock and hunter stasis builds.
Some of the most positive comments on D2 content ive seen in awhile 😅. I love it!
Rime/Headstone for me.
Imma be real with yall, nothing is worth grinding till next year when the legendary weapon overhaul hits
You were almost correct. Nothing is worth grinding for.
Bungie did say the Heresy weapons will be worth inspecting once one hits your inventory, but weapons right now need to be on par with Raid weapons to even be worthy of using. Let alone keeping for later.
😂😂❤@@colt4505
Worst part of thinking about this is me waiting for a hakke auto rifle with KC again
R.I.P English language
encore kill clip is a must have! its just too good!
Killing wind kill clip is one of the best feelings pulses I’ve used in awhile.
That’s my bxr roll it’s soo good
Just masterworked mine. I got arrowhead/accurized/killing wind/kill clip/ range masterwork. Can’t wait to use it
If you like killing wind. Try it with encore.
This video has more views that players on d2 rn
Wild
Lone wolf/Kill clip will be amazing soon
Chattering Bone is Pooh Bear in a tuxedo
Cba to grind essence if I'm honest, bungie thinks forcing us to grind means we play the game more, but the dawning weapons aren't worth the time invested IMO
Happy holidays brother! Keep up the good work!!!
Got me a lone wolf + kill clip and loving it in comp!
Have swap perks of tunnel vision + headseeker 😅😊
I have this plus the extra slot Enlightened/ Headstone.
Personally I like the Battler better. 🤷♂️
I'm still glazing lol I absolutely love this thing. It's one of my fav weapons in D2. Before it's been the latest flavor I was loving this thing
I have moving target headseeker from last year. I'm good to go.
Stay Frosty as a special place in my arsenal. I have a encore, killclip from awhile back and I was able to get 2 burst kills with it. I not sure about the newest ones because I don't wanna play the Auto complete event..
Bygones is still better zen+head.
However PVE rim + headstone is great.
Maybe in 3s. In 6s Stay frosty is the best chaining gun in the history of d2. Source: me with a 2.7kd on PC playing solo with controller
To be honest,you can use anti flinch if you get alot of flinch effect on it,but your choice
Would love one but sadly can’t do anything with the bugged quest 🤙🏻
Switch characters
@@kisukeurahara189 I did. Got Zavala his gift and now it’s stuck in limbo on all 3 of my characters. Bungie Bungo
My RNG has been atrocious. I can’t get the headstone rhimestealer combo and it feels awful. I give up
Same either get only rime or headstone but never on the same weapon
I got very lucky then. Dropped in my second try I think it was
Stay frosty and have a Merry Christmas and a Happy new year!
I like Nightshade more. I got Outlaw/HeadSeeker. ❤
Very interesting and informative video! Thank you for your attention to detail! 😛💕
I like Stay Frosty, but if not on Stasis I'm picking my Nightshade
as a pulse rifle enjoyer this is the gun grinding for... i have BXR and chatter bone. but interested to try this. im more of a rapid fire pulse guy tho
I find Wellspring in the Throne world to be good while targeting Chroma rush and getting 16-17 Essences per 10 minutes to be not a bad grind.
Thank you for such fascinating ideas! Your videos always inspire me! 🐱💞
Am I the only one that think weightgate isn’t fixed? I literally got 4 enlightened action/adrenaline junkie rolls, 1 enlightened/kill clip, 1 killing wind/adrenaline, and 1 enlightened/headseeker.
At least to me there’s an obvious pattern. Adrenaline junkie and enlightened action are extremely weighted.
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our paid actor at it again
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I got lucky af I got a rimestealer,headstone,enlightened action,kill clip roll on my first focus 😂
Same. It’s beautiful banging 😂
Avoid arrowhead. Smallbore is the best barrel.
I have a tunnel vision-kill clip roll, but I couldn't even finish the first kill most of the time even though I run double targeting, one dexterity and double unflinching like all other PvP primary's and I couldn't put my finger on it as to why. The flinch just feels more unforgiving on this specific weapon. Also had the same issue with Aisha's Care. I personally think it also has to do with me defaulting more to an auto rifle nowadays even though they are worse than pulses range-wise. But having alot of range doesn't matter if you can't land all the shots due to flinch.
Just got my rimestealer and headstone Frosty today.
Cross, what about 200 rpm scouts. They are getting a buff, too. Share your thoughts on that, too, homie. We here for it.
Enlightened action is great. Encore is also with desperado.
I think it has to do more with input, I’m on controller, I’ve outgunned chattering bone and battler, summoners, stay frosty is nutty, I have quite a few rolls so far moving target and head seeker has been the most consistent
Got rim Steeler and headstone first drop and love it
Out here stealin rims huh? 😂😂😂
You got a rim of steel? Dunno if I should be impressed, or not.
Can you focus BXR or nah?
No
@SwampyThingy balls...
I dont like it either.
I like my chattering bone. Or as far as all pulse rifle archetypes go, claws of the wolf is my favorite. I know the stats suck, but it feels so good to me. Double damage perks, and then I'm always getting void surge going when i break my crystals in crucible. It's super strong.
Personally I love it I got a moving target head seeker roll and it's one of my favs
I got lucky with my last pull of the night and got:
Arrowhead
Tact mag
Rimestealer
Headstone
With range masterwork
To me thats my pve god roll that i wanted.
Lightweight pulse rifles getting a buff soon as well!
I got lucky and got:
Hammerforged
Accurized
Lone Wolf/Encore
Kill Clip
on my first focused stay frosty.
Unfortunate handling MW, but the dawning grind was boring enough that i didn't care.
Got lucky with my double perks LW/KW + HS/KC with arrowhead Only downside is handling MW
coolguy and aztecross pulling me in two different directions with this one
I’m with coolguy on this one. Well myself, u need others to help u make a choice on how “U” play the game?? It’s all opinionated anyway, Do U and have fun. 😊
You know what's crazy? Omolon weapons aren't so futuristic anymore. Liquid ammunition is now a thing.
Loving Encore Kill Clip!
Was raised halfright. Im subbed on twitch
Controller player here. Stay Frosty just doesn’t feel good. The reticle on certain guardians also easily gets lost and I feel like it looks blank. Much prefer Chattering Bone (Kill Clip & Headseaker) or BR (max range, kill clip & killing wind).
Controller player here. Stay Frosty feels Great. The reticle is very accurate for me and never gets lost. I enjoy it alot more than CB & BXR (both crafted with 1k+ pvp kills each). Personally looking forward to the buffs & nerfs of next patch.
I'm a controller player. Been rocking my last year stay frosty with arrowhead, steady rounds, moving target headstone for a while and it's super sticky.
Put on a mods for stasis targeting and recoil
I don't like stay frosty either, chattering bone feels better, but bro! I was trying to grind The Dawning earlier and I got weaseled. Instantly killed my motivation to continue play today.
When it comes to stasis Hakke is simply superior
LA Knight voice: YEAH!
I know obtaining Dawning Essence is a pain in the ass, but I’m not gonna let that stop me! 😎
This years version is good. Personally I like last years with kill clip and thresh. 3 supers a game.
I’ve burnt myself out on getting this roll. But nope. I got a lot of lone wolf desperado rolls lone wolf headseeker or kill clip rolls too but no rime/headstone
I feel like I just don’t proc Headstone on Stay Frosty as much as I do some of my other stasis weapons
Yeah, Syncopation procs Headstone the best of any pulse by far, it just lacks a good 3rd column trait (I use Compulsive Reload).
@ yeah it’s crazy how much milage I’ve gotten outta Synco
I play on controller and I can't look past my Zen moment headseeker Aishas care, it snags so many kills when you feel like it shouldn't 😅
I still haven't gotten a better God Roll than the one I got last time.
Y'all remember when nobody used 140 hand cannons cuz lightweights were just better?
Dawning grind is a joke. I'm continuously falling behind in seasons. There is not enough time in a working persons life. Im slowly saying goodbye to Destiny and it sucks.
Well duh, just quit your job… nah, I’m joking. Do not do that. It’s just a game. Just Play whenever you can.
I use my older one all the time Kc &Encor it's a crit magnet.
Already got my bxr crafted
Did you see that the player concurrent player count dropped to 12,500
Dawning engrams arent dropping for me
I was gonna grind for a good avalanche roll cause I don't have a solar machine gun. But the loot isn't worth grinding cookies, again and again. This event is so sad. I'll just keep playing zombies instead
This is my first time actually playing a seasonal event besides the Halloween one in ages so might just be me but anyone else feel the price requirement to focus the dawning weapons is high? The spirit stuff is what’s making it a slog. Bounties and turning in cookies gives back so little tbh and it takes 25 to focus one wep. Am I missing something?
How i feel about sunshot and graviton, will never use either of those
honestly
i want shoot to loot to work on more things
Can they please optimize every archetype to have the same ttk without damage mods
Like y does weapons in the same archetype base stats different it makes no sense. It supposed to be the same gun but looks different.
@@TrueSpartanGodGaming it's not supposed to be the same gun if that's the case why grind anything but strikes if every gun feels like a vanguard weapon. If they didn't switch up the meta the game would become very stale. The quality of the weapons should always sort of correlate with the difficulty to obtain it. It's the core principle of a looter shooter.
@ but trying to balance these guns that u get from those activities makes it hard to balance them in pvp. Ok I see u play trials and get an adept weapon it has higher stats. But if there is one sub that’s an aggressive and u make another sub that’s aggressive and u make those base stats higher than the other y use the other gun if that gun just has better base stats it makes no sense to have the same rpm have better stats than the other that’s the same rpm. That’s all I’m saying.
Whatch coolguys video ,totally contradicts the hate towards this weapon
Bruv. Stay Frosty washes Chattering Bone easily. Omolon fluid dynamics alone puts it way over the top.
can they make Bad Juju give us more Super for being in a team after a kill or atleast Super from assist? I want to use the the gun in PVE but I feel no real differance when it comes to Super generation.
I somehow got extremely lucky, I got a rime/headstone roll and a lone wolf moving target kill clip head seeker roll 😭
I want Rime/Stone roll but it will not drop for me. I've focused 22 Frosty' s so far and no luck. I think I'm done trying for it. I hate RNG so much. The pleasure of finally getting a GodRoll to drop doesn't compare to the frustration and aggravation everytime it doesn't.
Got another week, good luck
If yall have a good Taraxippos roll from Guardian Games, just use that instead of farming this dogshit event. Its lightweight as well.
Imma use my Keep Away/Kill Clip since i has some nice stats with the barrel and mag.
Idk, maybe its just me. Never did like the idea of grinding for rolls that synergize with artifact mods. Once those mods are gone, the gun just seems useless after.
Not sure what it is, but Chattering Bone feels more “lightweight”.
I haven't even gotten ine weapon so far. The farming progress is abysmal, I don't spend more time playing, I spend less
Are any of the dawning weapons worth the dawning grind? Not for me.
Precision hand cannons should be lightweights
I have yet to get a single fucking dawning weapon, The event is so bugged that I can't even progress my upgrades anymore. I literally bought the first snowball upgrade and have not been able to purchase any more since
Christmas came early, and so did i 😏
I got rime head on my second drop... Bino happy boy
I use all 3 for different stuff 🤷
solar
stasis
kinetic
😉
Can’t tell if cross is just trolling because he wants to be the one who saved his god roll. Lol
Well if I can get a good Rimestealer headstone roll….
Fast shooting shit should ONLY work in close quarters and should have a kickback on larger distances - unless you have to sacrifice something for it and build into it! EASE OF USE IS NOT BALANCE!
Outbreak and Graviton are in another class, why bother with any of these legendary pulses.
Dare I say I haven't played yet in December...
Its worth it if you dont have the chattering bone. If you already have a chattering bone than dont bother about it as you already have the best frame out of the lightweights.
P.s. cross BXR is not a lightweight frame!!
i will admit. the way the scope looks and moves feels really weird to me.
It’s gonna be META cross. Just get a good one and save it
Isn't outbreak technically a lightweight?