I saw of clip of Jaedong's stream where he was essentially saying that things will get really exciting when Flash finally officially returns. Interesting to consider that Flash's presence can seem to motivate other pros in ways that normally competing just doesn't.
Flash timing attack hits just as spire finishes, forcing jaedong to waste larva on speedlings. He's floating a lot of gas after that push, so he's behind at that point
I was born in 2007 and I find this game because of my dad, and its actually cool game. I also found this game in korean manhwas, like starcraft is just part of their culture.
This seems like a lot of Jaedong's recent games. He does 95% of everything super super well, but he seems to make one or two big blunders (losing the overlord, sunkens 5 seconds too slow) that cost him. Soulkey would have done everything Jaedong did, but would also have had defense at his 3rd and would have been in a dominate position.
Agreed. You can tell that, if not for those "one or two big blunders", he wouldn't be that far from ASL-winning shape. The moments of brilliance are still there, but in ZvT, everything can fall apart so fast if you make just one mistake. Hopefully we'll get some clean Jaedong next ASL… I still believe he'll win an ASL soon.
RT, you're the most likely to know this. Check flash's cwal matches (you're going to do it anyways.) There's no way that's actually the real jangbi he met on the ladder?
@@Figgy20000 I only played 3v3 , tvb zero clutter maps. So watching all these build timing pro videos is just a little mind numbing. 400+ APM, overmicroing an scv scout. Shits cray. These pros have every little bit of gas figured out in their head.
Let's goooo loving the Flash videos!!! :D Glad to see the God of SC himself returning!! I just more recently have been a student of Brood War/Remastered, and I'm about to start playing but I've been making sure to know a lot of things before I jump into things. Thank you for the daily videos Artosis!!
I see why you think so and maybe you are right, but the camera went to the overlord after the scan sound right away and we didn't see the 'sparkle' of the scan. I think Jaedong was trying to peek in with the overlord (you can see it edging in) but the turret triggered and then the marines finished it off. Flash may have simply been scanning Jaedong's base. Not sure. Good catch on the scan sound.
I think Jaedong needs to take like a two week break. Sometimes you try to improve so much at a skill you actually make yourself worse and it’s good to stop and let your brain fully process everything you’ve been doing and recover.
I only played Diablo and Counter strike during the 2000s(the Big 3s rein/ D2,SC,CS). But I always enjoyed watching matches between my friends when they played star craft. Shit talking and all. These videos are reminiscing of my childhood. Talk about nostalagia lol.
Kind of a crazy coincidence that Terran Theme 3 plays when the game is about to end regardless of who wins it lol, happened to all recent Flash games uploaded too.
Epic game, they were just swinging at each other and connecting every time. I thought jaedong had it until flash suddenly got that punch in that knocked out the third base.
Hello Arty, longtime subscriber here (you had like 5k subs) havent watched in a while since ive had 2 jobs. The commentary is always top tier but I have a very hard time with the newer volumes levels, seems like youve almost muted the game I couldnt even hear if the zerglings were connecting with the scv. Could you plz bump up the game sound a little plz its become too low, thank you very much for your consideration, wish you all the best!
Its starting to get really worrysome how JD plays recently like 90% of his games he does super well then he forgets to do something super basic/mundane thing , enemy A clicks into his base and he dies. This was true even in his ASL games.
i felt like flashes macro there was a bit different than we see from most terrans right. When they are moving out with thier first push i feel like macro slows down. Flash moved with that first tank push and lost it. But the secondf wave was soooo strong. Looked like barely missed a marine cycle.
Weird game tbh. His tanks did absolutely nothing and he probably should have lost his first vessel but he still ended up crushing him. I guess it shows how volatile these match ups are at the highest level, if you mess up at the wrong time it’s just game
This is so exciting. Starcraft is the best sport on Earth! It's no longer a game in my opinion, sometimes things transcend what they originally were to become something much more. Flash is like the Babe Ruth of Starcraft.
Artosis I love your casts I lay naked in bed next to my lovely gf who wonders why I am watching a grown man cry over video game. But please, for your casts can you please start casting blue vs red, while this isn't an example of it, watching when one player is brown another is orange in a brown background is incredibly difficult for me as I am partially color blind.
No,art you are in lies of nostalgia. Jaedong cant rival flash when flash is playing. Hes too bad for it. There is no rivalry when flash is in form.sad but true
Has much changed TvZ since flash left in the meta?? Seems pretty close to the same terren style really. Get though mut harassment and vessel up. Sk terren
“Beating a horse with a dead stick” 😂 so close
sticking a horse with a deadbeat?
Poor stick.
Horsing a Stick with a dead Beat?
@@kenthknicket6500 rotfl
I have to use that quote now lol
Morpheus is fighting Neo!
Same exact thought
Decades old rivalry and you sparked the same exact thoughts of all fans of Starcraft. Thanks for the Nostalgia! 😁
😂😂😂😂😂
😂YES😂
I saw of clip of Jaedong's stream where he was essentially saying that things will get really exciting when Flash finally officially returns. Interesting to consider that Flash's presence can seem to motivate other pros in ways that normally competing just doesn't.
Flash v Jaedong was "The Rivalry" that made SC1 the biggest Esport in KR.
me, bisu vs savior
Flash timing attack hits just as spire finishes, forcing jaedong to waste larva on speedlings. He's floating a lot of gas after that push, so he's behind at that point
And he also lost that overlord at the natural just after that, and was supply blocked and unable to make more than 3 mutas.
Yea arty talks about build so much he glances over the match often
just read flash + dong and clicked instantly
I know hearing dong is enticing. I think that's why everyone clicked.
Obligatory "Flash would have won"
I'm always impressed by Artosis' knowledge about the game, in all areas.
WHERE ARE MY SOULKEY GAMES? BACK TO BACK CHAMPIONSHIPS MEAN NOTHING?!
Love the casts, keep up the good work!
An Age Old Classic yet still exciting till today
I was born in 2007 and I find this game because of my dad, and its actually cool game.
I also found this game in korean manhwas, like starcraft is just part of their culture.
Great game! AWESOME explanation, Artosis. Love the depth of knowledge.
The interactions leading up to the finish was just an escalating stack of "oh shit!" from eachother in reaction to the jockeying for position.
Great game on both sides !!! that was a beatiful rollercoaster of who had the advantage!
This seems like a lot of Jaedong's recent games. He does 95% of everything super super well, but he seems to make one or two big blunders (losing the overlord, sunkens 5 seconds too slow) that cost him. Soulkey would have done everything Jaedong did, but would also have had defense at his 3rd and would have been in a dominate position.
Brilliance tempered by those mistakes. He's one of the older dominant players that I still cheer for and want to see surge back.
Agreed. You can tell that, if not for those "one or two big blunders", he wouldn't be that far from ASL-winning shape. The moments of brilliance are still there, but in ZvT, everything can fall apart so fast if you make just one mistake.
Hopefully we'll get some clean Jaedong next ASL… I still believe he'll win an ASL soon.
RT, you're the most likely to know this. Check flash's cwal matches (you're going to do it anyways.) There's no way that's actually the real jangbi he met on the ladder?
Really incredible how sharp Flash's timings still are
If i had a nickel for every time Jaedong lost a game by not properly defending a third at a natural... I'd have a lot of nickels.
Nothing will beat the old days watching the tournaments back when flash and jaedong were kings.
Flash vs Jaedong wasn't on my Brood War bingo card this year.
That 9minute vessel though! Pretty badass.
Artosis would have suicided 2 valks by this point trying to copy one of Lights builds without understand it
@@Figgy20000 I only played 3v3 , tvb zero clutter maps. So watching all these build timing pro videos is just a little mind numbing. 400+ APM, overmicroing an scv scout. Shits cray. These pros have every little bit of gas figured out in their head.
2:48 I don't know if that was intentional, but it was hilarious.
Flash is over here resurrecting dead builds, I thought he was gonna go 2 base goliath
Let's goooo loving the Flash videos!!! :D Glad to see the God of SC himself returning!! I just more recently have been a student of Brood War/Remastered, and I'm about to start playing but I've been making sure to know a lot of things before I jump into things. Thank you for the daily videos Artosis!!
Bring me back to the past - Flash vs Jaedong baby!!!
Think flash scan to kill that overlord
I see why you think so and maybe you are right, but the camera went to the overlord after the scan sound right away and we didn't see the 'sparkle' of the scan. I think Jaedong was trying to peek in with the overlord (you can see it edging in) but the turret triggered and then the marines finished it off. Flash may have simply been scanning Jaedong's base.
Not sure. Good catch on the scan sound.
Bruh, this is Ali vs Frazier all over again :D
6:00 actually you can hear flash scanning the overlord to kill so that was a great play and not a silly mistake by the zerg
Thanks Artosis!
I think Jaedong needs to take like a two week break. Sometimes you try to improve so much at a skill you actually make yourself worse and it’s good to stop and let your brain fully process everything you’ve been doing and recover.
True, ive been playing bw nonstop for over a year and once i got a month break i improved a lot
I only played Diablo and Counter strike during the 2000s(the Big 3s rein/ D2,SC,CS). But I always enjoyed watching matches between my friends when they played star craft. Shit talking and all. These videos are reminiscing of my childhood. Talk about nostalagia lol.
Arty didnt see the greater spire. Looks like Jaedong had different plans. It finished around minute 10
at last someone even flash can beat
😂
0:50 Effort, Fantasy and Jangbi seem to be omitted when talking about pushing Flash.
Especially Effort. The weakest Flash ever looks is against him
I appreciate the Boxer vs Yellow spoiler alert.
Yo WHATTT? JAEDONG?! Flash coming back has been such a treat. Holy hell.
the best breakdowns.
the world is falling apart but at least flash is back. That's true nirvana
It was the best Cerebrate Vs the Best Commander of all time in Starcraft brood war
holy crap what year is it?
Kind of a crazy coincidence that Terran Theme 3 plays when the game is about to end regardless of who wins it lol, happened to all recent Flash games uploaded too.
lol Yellow had no chance against boxer, I remember a final where Yellow trained his ass off and Boxer won the whole thing in 30 min
a NOT dead stick TENDS to be a tree.
great to see it!
A game so good I've watched it thrice
Fresh Flash vs Jaedong is wild in 2024
Epic game, they were just swinging at each other and connecting every time. I thought jaedong had it until flash suddenly got that punch in that knocked out the third base.
What a fucking time to be alive to watch Starcraft!
is this a 2008 VOD oh wait
Mooore, we need mooore!
That multitassskinggggg
0:25, 1:46 The word is "versus," not "verse."
Damn Flash literally destroyed him in seconds!
I clicked in a flash 🫠
Jaedongs play is totally B-Tier since a long time, considering the level of the other korean top progamers.
I hope to see Flash vs Serral in Starcraft Evo...
When is Flash coming back?
Finally a Flash win! Let's gooo
Old man yelling, what year is this ? :D
What the best opener for terren against muts?
c̶a̶s̶t̶e̶d̶ cast
The key was the mutas not doing anything. The game normlaizes with mutas killing like 15 scv . If they kill non terran is massively ahead
Why take a third there ?
Hello Arty, longtime subscriber here (you had like 5k subs) havent watched in a while since ive had 2 jobs. The commentary is always top tier but I have a very hard time with the newer volumes levels, seems like youve almost muted the game I couldnt even hear if the zerglings were connecting with the scv. Could you plz bump up the game sound a little plz its become too low, thank you very much for your consideration, wish you all the best!
Where can i download those korean replays?
all we're missing is useless! never change, toast, never change
Its starting to get really worrysome how JD plays recently like 90% of his games he does super well then he forgets to do something super basic/mundane thing , enemy A clicks into his base and he dies. This was true even in his ASL games.
i felt like flashes macro there was a bit different than we see from most terrans right. When they are moving out with thier first push i feel like macro slows down. Flash moved with that first tank push and lost it. But the secondf wave was soooo strong. Looked like barely missed a marine cycle.
Weird game tbh. His tanks did absolutely nothing and he probably should have lost his first vessel but he still ended up crushing him. I guess it shows how volatile these match ups are at the highest level, if you mess up at the wrong time it’s just game
WHOOOOOOOO LETS GO
flash marines have 6 more health and do 1 more damage than normal marines
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What a goated matchup
Bisu /jaedong /flash is the best seasons for starcraft.
Wasn't this like a group of 12 games played recently?
Hot damn this looked like an L for Flash with those siege tanks getting sniped and then out of nowhere with the win.
yes
Exactly this shows how bad the matchup is:
mistake after mistake from Flash vs just one small mistake from JD - bam: game lost.
Best match literally ever
This is so exciting. Starcraft is the best sport on Earth! It's no longer a game in my opinion, sometimes things transcend what they originally were to become something much more. Flash is like the Babe Ruth of Starcraft.
I like cookies
Flash would have won.
Flash is ice cold he may not even make asl
starcraft: Titans
LET'S go
WOW
For the algo
FLASH
Супер 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Artosis would not have won that.
🎉
Artosis I love your casts I lay naked in bed next to my lovely gf who wonders why I am watching a grown man cry over video game. But please, for your casts can you please start casting blue vs red, while this isn't an example of it, watching when one player is brown another is orange in a brown background is incredibly difficult for me as I am partially color blind.
Hey Flash fanboys, Boxer is the best thing to ever happen to Starcraft!
Flash would have won this.
Who would know jangbi was the last emperor of StarCraft’s golden age….
Flash would have won
gs
I like Jaedong's id better
👍
No,art you are in lies of nostalgia. Jaedong cant rival flash when flash is playing. Hes too bad for it. There is no rivalry when flash is in form.sad but true
Has much changed TvZ since flash left in the meta?? Seems pretty close to the same terren style really. Get though mut harassment and vessel up. Sk terren