I am a native german speaker. His defense is: We made the laws, it is normal that the gouvernment makes the law, nothing I did was unlawful at the time.
Ich bedauere Deutschland aufrichtig für das, was ihm widerfahren ist. Ich halte Hitler einerseits für einen visionären Mann, andererseits aber auch für zu überheblich und halluziniert von seinen Visionen. Aber ich finde auch, dass nicht genug gesagt wird, dass der Nationalsozialismus die einzige wirkliche europäische Reaktion auf die schreckliche Gefahr war, die in den zwanziger und dreißiger Jahren von der bolschewistischen Revolution ausging. Nur Deutschland hatte den Mut, sich dagegen zu wehren. Niemand sagt das jemals und es ist eine Schande für Deutschland, die Geschichte und die Wahrheit. Hitlers großer und fataler Fehler war der Einmarsch in Russland. Wäre er besser über den Zustand der russischen Streitkräfte informiert gewesen (das gab er unter vier Augen recht schnell zu), hätte es Barbarossa nie gegeben, und Europa hätte vielleicht nicht die Marxisierung der Geister erfahren, die es seit 1945 getroffen hat. Denn mit Nach der Niederlage Deutschlands war es zumindest kulturell gesehen der Triumph des Kommunismus in ganz Europa. Kurz gesagt, ich als Franzose habe, so scheint es mir, ein etwas tiefergehendes Verständnis davon, was mit Deutschland passiert ist. Das habe ich Bach, Mozart und Schubert zu verdanken, denen ich einige meiner größten Freuden verdanke! Brüderlich gesehen, ein Normanne aus Frankreich, der in der Nähe eines Strandes unter seinen Nachbarn aufwuchs und sehr berühmt blieb, und zwar auf der ganzen Welt, Sie wissen, was ich meine! Ich spreche Ihre schöne Sprache leider nicht, Google-Übersetzung.
This is the type of bullshit that led to the rise of Hitler in the first place. Charismatic good speakers tricking retards into thinking they're some type of genius. Not everyone who is intelligent is a good speaker or even good at formulating their thoughts.
As an American, this is a little embarrassing. Then again if the Nazis won they'd probably just line every allied general up against a wall and shoot them. Show trial be damned
The fact that translations had to be used I'm sure was advantageous to Göring. Since he could understand English quite well, he had time to think over his answers before speaking.
@@DannyBoy777777 I’m not making that up, Göring cleverly outwitted Jackson in the questioning since he could understand English. While it obviously would’ve had any impact on the final outcome, it still was a bad look on Jackson’s ability as a prosecutor in this case.
@@greenlime1997 The presentation of Göring's memorandum, 13 July 1941, decimated his testimony. For in it, Göring explicitly ordered Heydrich to set in motion the so-called Final Solution. Jackson won.
@@thepatriot8514 oh he listened to Goring, who said not to worry about the retreating soldiers or incoming ones because he would handle them. Such a bafoon
why was there not a traslation for all of what was said? At about the 6:08 mark Reichsmachal Georing is saying something but no translation is provided. Makes me feel like something has been intentionally obscured when something like this happens.
Just read the trial transcript. It's available online for free. Nothing intentionally hidden here. Basically Jackson is getting worked up by Goering's long answers and it's starting to annoy him. Jackson says Goering should only answer yes or no but Judge Lawrence overrules him and says Goering should be allowed to explain. This happens in the other videos. Jackson did not do well against Goering. Indeed, he botched it. The British prosecution rescued it.
Good eye (ear)! In my opinion, u are 110% correct to be skeptical! Despite everything he may have done, I must say as an American citizen, I cannot help but appreciate Göring's intelligence and wit during his questioning. Especially the way he pointed out the hypocrisy (and irony) of the prosecuting governments.
@@muttley8818 I believe what ur referring to may be heard in the opening of this video, if not something similar: ua-cam.com/video/iHQ67PBvc-Q/v-deo.html
This is one of the rare times when Jackson was 'shown up' in the trial; this particular exchange emboldened the defendants. In that vein, I'm impressed that they're even posting it here. Overall, his work was brilliant.
His voice cracks... he is very submissive and for a good reason at that. Notice Georing's body language and how he smirks knowing he is in control. Edit:correcting
Not to mention the leading questions and terrible self control when cutting off an answer which has to be translated for his own benefit and not waiting for translation before becoming impatient. Unprofessional
@@koontz1154 totally agree according to John Tusas book which I’m currently reading, Jackson was very prepared - he just did it very badly as he had had very very little recent courtroom experienced - as a judge he’d probably been cosseted for years by well meaning clerks who did the leg work. Having to deliver this stuff himself is a different ballgame.
@@ausar3852 Ah yeah, body language expert here ready to tell you all about how to hold your chin up to become an alpha male and attract girls. You people are such bumbling fools it's pathetic that we still have you around. I wish Hitler started with people like you first.
Or the USA delegation when he mentioned concentration camps for their own people based solely on ethnicity (Yes FDR we're talking about you and your Japanese American and German American concentration camps in the mainland USA). Not to mention the lecture on propaganda making everyone uncomfortable.
Anyone else feel like Jackson is basically yelling at Göring for rambling on without answering the question(s) when, based on my opinion, Göring DID answer said question(s)?
Georing answering honestly here knowing no mstter what its a biased court and will kill them all. So l see it as Georing's way of defending his way of belief and tries to speak through cameras to people that are watching it...not to prosecuter
Prosecutor honestly is embarrassing, at times toeing the line of a witchhunt. A fair trial is a fair trial and this prosecution clearly isn't about that. The trial may have been necessary but then so should have the trials of every country for the war crimes attributable to their name. The Russians alone objectively were worse than the nazis, but their support earned them a free pass even after being sympathetic to the axis' cause. Every country involved had stains on their hands and to be truly fair it should be treated the same.
@@koontz1154 it goes for US too... roughly %70 civilian bombing to france was done by ally bombers mainly US... There were american concentration camps too against japanese-americans but such things arent well known nor spoken by our common people. At the end they glorified themselves as ''just'' and wrote it to history books. If axis won same thing would happen reversed... Its not fair but if all was fair wars wouldnt happen in the first place lol
@@ausar3852 most definitely, US was top of the list in my mind along with Britain with countries that acted like their shit was rose scented. Like you said though history is written by the victors, rome is a good example of might makes right along with the out and out destruction of history they caused.
@@ausar3852 That is not TRUTH!!! Many of them got sentences. Some that shld have HUNG!!! Don’t talk like that! Ignorance shows thru like the brightly lit sun in a dark room!! He was an evil, EVIL man who sent MILLIONS, even innocent little children & babies to DEATH Camps to be burned alive or poisoned! Without remorse whatsoever & here he sits with his arrogance!!! That is not something to be praised ever!!!!!!!!!!
Goering, calmly, explaining what was going on, as if to a child, is somewhat comical. "Look, we were in charge, we were elected, and when elected, with a majority, changed the government to one which doesn't permit any other party" *Soviet Delegation is now very, very uncomfortable* "-Moreover we would send anyone who disagreed with us to *camps* without judicial review, and only after they'd been turned over to the administration of said camp authorities, 24-48 hours, would they be permitted an attorney" *Soviets are now sweating profusely* "Also you have an organization to carry propaganda down to the people and to inform leadership of weather it's working" Goering "Literally what?" Prosecutor "You needed organizations to fight!" Goering "Uh...yeah, we needed organizations...to fight whatnow?" Prosecutor "Well if you wanted people killed you needed an organization to do it, like Rohm?" *NKVD are now visibly damp* Goering "The Rohm thing...we've been over this..." Prosecutor "When the state needed to kill someone, you needed an axeman, didn't you?" Goering "And...you don't?" Prosecutor "What about the SA, SS, SD, they killed people, they did the thing" Goering "So the SA didn't kill people, at least they weren't *supposed* to, the SS either, regardless that wasn't my thing, I had nothing to do with them, Rohm was killed by execution order, but that was carried out by the police, which I had nothing to do with. " tl;dr, he's trolling them by making every Soviet Official in that room sweat so badly they'd need to change clothes after.
I see what he's getting at......the field marshal was taking the position that these were state related acts. This guy is trying to personalize the actions. Which is what people here love doing. The field marshal would of naturally believed as a German he was doing things as a state capcity not personal.
Why is the prosecutor making long STATEMENTS instead of asking questions?? Is this a particular style to make a statement them follow up with a vague question like "Didn't you? " or "wasn't it?" It sounds like a terrible way to pin down someone on a particular point
Robert H. Jackson was a fine orator but was no good at interrogating the witness. He allowed Goering to take control of the questioning to the point that he had Jackson wrapped around his finger. It took British prosecutor David Maxwell-Phyfe to finally put Goering in his place and unravel his tissue of lies.
That form of questioning in most courts would be stopped for being seen as leading the defendant. There is a reason as well, a question isn't a statement followed by yes or no at the end. Not to mention his seeming impatience at having to have translators and the process, if he had his way they would only nod or shake their head after each of his leading statements.
Thought the "detention without trial" was a bit rich from the American prosecutor considering...you know...the Japanese internment camps and such like.
Oh no, the Nazis who did not even pretend to have a politically independent court system were denied the right to appeal. Boo-hoo! How many of the people executed in concentration camps had the right to appeal? These sub-human monsters were afforded more justice in a few months that they could have summed up in their entire existence.
This court set the precedents for subsequent similar trials, according to your logic everything the Nazis did was fine because in their own legislation it was legal Yes, your opinion is that stupid.
@@alanfitz9547 That is false, the defense was allowed to present witnesses and documentary evidence that would exonerate them from responsibility, in some cases it served and in other cases it condemned them more. The only evidence that was rejected was that which justified the actions for "following orders" or "obedience." Also those that justified the legality of the war and therefore of the crimes. This is still common in several judicial processes where the validity of certain evidence is rejected, so your caricature is of no use, little apologist :(
I feel a lot of smoke and mirrors where used in this ''Hollywood style'' trial, some questions asked where not translated very well and one of the most important questions about the concentration camps was dealt with very poorly.
@@omarharo3132 they fabricated the whole trial as if it were some kind of Hollywood movie. The entire case presented against the Germans was built on mountains of false information and fake evidence.
@@jerbs5346 yes, really. The Russians (Bolsheviks), the USA with our evil politicians, the UK also with their own evil politicians, all backed and controlled by Sabbatean Jews, committed multiple massive genocidal rampages. Jews were one of the few groups not a victim of genocide.
LOL Jim Crow is child's play...Jackson of the USA lecturing the defendant about concentration camps and putting people in them without due process when the USA set up concentration camps on the mainland USA for Japanese Americans and German Americans without them committing a crime and solely because of their ancestry without due process or the right to an attorney.
Nuremberg Trials were illegal. Who are Americans to raise such illegal questions Who are Americans to dictate policy for German People. Indian Military Veterans.
You mean American English French And Russian prosecution and more importantly with an English President Judge for the entire Tribunal? You're an idiot.
Yeah because we should've let the Germans start another NSDAP after they exterminated so many people and tried to subjugate the whole of Europe. Are you incapable of rational thinking? Exactly the kind of take a useful idiot would make, the nazis would love you. For all the wrong reasons though.
@@alanfitz9547Two wrongs don't give the Nazis a pass. I agree any genocide is awful, but whether or not a majority government, you can't systematically kill Jews, gypsies, opposing politicians, homosexuals, or the disabled because you see fit. You just can't. They needed to stand trial for it. Believe me, I see the irony, but these people couldn't get off easy. The Soviets and Americans also should have answered for their crimes, but who would put them on trial? History is written by the victors. Always.
The book 'The Nuremberg Trial (1983) by John & Ann Tusa is thoughtful & thorough treatment. They criticise Jackson' work, and one sees why here: badly prepared, at times pointless, and he was defeated by Goering who played the role of leader of the accused. BTW Goering was allegedly a morphine (M) addict in 1943 e.g. according to the unreliable Speer. How come then there no injection marks on his body? And after condemned to death by Hitler (4/1945) & imprisoned by the SS (5/1945) he was paracodeine habituated (oral use) i.e. he was not M dependent. So probably during WW2 he was not dependent on M at all
you comment on a lot, about “Americans”. Explain to me, why you have such an intense negative view on us, based of a ww2 trial from WW2, as if it’s relevant?
The fact that some people supported Hitler and believed what was said about this so called “amazing camp” that he advertised is just crazy. I personally think you’re just as guilty if you weren’t even involved but still supported him. Poor people that died Rest in peace forever. I’m not saying the people that died supported him cause they had no choice but to go to the killing camp, but more for the people that didn’t even have to worry about that. I don’t really think that made sense of what I said but my heart just really breaks into pieces😢.
@@mhoppy6639haha, the Holodomor say's different. Dont try and blame Soviet Sado masochistic behaviour that was demonstrated and known to the other 'allies' long,long...long before the Nazi's came to power.
@@artisaprimus6306 Ok Josef: 1 million women "from 8 to 80" (as their motto went) graped by the "liberating" Soviets. 100,000 women graped by the "liberating" Americans. Only the blak US soldiers were ever charged with a crime (American eugenics you know). Stalin knew and even publicly defended these grapes by his troops. Any war crimes charged for this? Major-General Raymond Hufft (US Army) gave instructions to his troops not to take prisoners when they crossed the Rhine in 1945. "After the war, when he reflected on the war crimes he authorized, he admitted, 'if the Germans had won, I would have been on trial at Nuremberg instead of them.' Surrendering jerrys taken in back and shot under commanders orders. Any war crimes for this? This was one of the exact questions actually to the German defendant. Hypocracy much? The US/UK fire bombing of Dresden or Hiro/Naga that specifically targeting and wiped out hundreds of thousands of civilians (non-military targets). When should I expect to see the tribunal for those war crimes? What about the internment camps in the mainland USA for Japanese and German American citizenss. Yes there were camps for American Germans as well. This was a pre-crime lockup which was also one of the questions asked of a German defendant (Goering). So let's hear your response Josef.
@@artisaprimus6306 Ok Josef: 1 million women "from 8 to 80" (as their motto went) rapped by the "liberating" Soviets. 100,000 women grapped by the "liberating" Americans. Only the blak US soldiers were ever charged with a crime (American eugenics you know). Stalin knew and even publicly defended these rappes by his troops. Any war crimes charged for this? Major-General Raymond Hufft (US Army) gave instructions to his troops not to take prisoners when they crossed the Rhine in 1945. "After the war, when he reflected on the war crimes he authorized, he admitted, 'if the Germans had won, I would have been on trial at Nuremberg instead of them.' Surrendering jerrys taken in back and shot under commanders orders. Any war crimes for this? This was one of the exact questions actually to the German defendant. Hypocracy much? The US/UK fire bombing of Dresden or Hiro/Naga that specifically targeting and wiped out hundreds of thousands of civilians (non-military targets). When should I expect to see the tribunal for those war crimes? What about the internment camps in the mainland USA for Japanese and German American citizenss. Yes there were camps for American Germans as well. This was a pre-crime lockup which was also one of the questions asked of a German defendant (Goering). So let's hear your response Josef.
I'm leaving this comment here- for what it's worth- a bit out of sync: I watched the available clips of Goering's cross examination by David Maxwell Fyfe, prompted by media report praising it as rare piece of legal brilliance. I'm baffled. Not wanting to offend anyone, I was only to watch a rather bumbling Maxwell-Fyfe trying to pin Goering's holiday dates (presumably with a view to proving Goering's prior knowledge of shootings of POWs)-- it was rather terrible. Maybe I have missed the "clever" passages but there-- as in this clip-- sorry to say, the prosecutors are not really coming across all that sharp.
Ah, the final defense of every coward-I was just following orders. Except Goering was too much of a coward to even admit this, so he pretended that the second most powerful man in Germany was actually powerless
@@srrlIdl Because Goering showed him up big time, Jackson was an embarrassment for the Americans, The British prosecution was much better with Maxwell Fyfe showing Jackson how it's done and showed Goering up in return.
I’m glad to see this pathetic event to be certain once more how brilliantly H. Göring dealt with this “trial”. Also the more you dive into it the more complicated the whole movement of the NSDAP reveals itself and the more you understand that most of that time and history is totally misunderstood, twisted over, and tagged as something to please the mob and all that lobby of you know who. Bravo Göring!
Whole movement of NSDAP is farce and just another name of despotism in the name of Race ,, the ones who used every democratic oppurtunity to rise to the power took away the same rights from others ,, if weimar republic would have done this it might have been better for the germany cause i am sure they would'nt have tried to eliminate the entire race or people in general ,, the instability casued by these goons was the main problem and somehow they defend that it was there right to take away the same rights that they enjoyed ,,
Goering had no clue how hilarious his answers were to democracies around the world. Yes, the opposition parties were becoming annoying so we outlawed them. Jackson should have told the fat one that the secret service does not kill people. LOL
I am a native german speaker. His defense is: We made the laws, it is normal that the gouvernment makes the law, nothing I did was unlawful at the time.
Thank you x
Pretty much what any dictatorship would claim
What a delusional man
Typical „Paragraphenreiterei“
Ich bedauere Deutschland aufrichtig für das, was ihm widerfahren ist. Ich halte Hitler einerseits für einen visionären Mann, andererseits aber auch für zu überheblich und halluziniert von seinen Visionen. Aber ich finde auch, dass nicht genug gesagt wird, dass der Nationalsozialismus die einzige wirkliche europäische Reaktion auf die schreckliche Gefahr war, die in den zwanziger und dreißiger Jahren von der bolschewistischen Revolution ausging. Nur Deutschland hatte den Mut, sich dagegen zu wehren. Niemand sagt das jemals und es ist eine Schande für Deutschland, die Geschichte und die Wahrheit. Hitlers großer und fataler Fehler war der Einmarsch in Russland. Wäre er besser über den Zustand der russischen Streitkräfte informiert gewesen (das gab er unter vier Augen recht schnell zu), hätte es Barbarossa nie gegeben, und Europa hätte vielleicht nicht die Marxisierung der Geister erfahren, die es seit 1945 getroffen hat. Denn mit Nach der Niederlage Deutschlands war es zumindest kulturell gesehen der Triumph des Kommunismus in ganz Europa.
Kurz gesagt, ich als Franzose habe, so scheint es mir, ein etwas tiefergehendes Verständnis davon, was mit Deutschland passiert ist. Das habe ich Bach, Mozart und Schubert zu verdanken, denen ich einige meiner größten Freuden verdanke! Brüderlich gesehen, ein Normanne aus Frankreich, der in der Nähe eines Strandes unter seinen Nachbarn aufwuchs und sehr berühmt blieb, und zwar auf der ganzen Welt, Sie wissen, was ich meine!
Ich spreche Ihre schöne Sprache leider nicht, Google-Übersetzung.
it's painfully clear which of these men has the higher intellect.
This is the type of bullshit that led to the rise of Hitler in the first place. Charismatic good speakers tricking retards into thinking they're some type of genius. Not everyone who is intelligent is a good speaker or even good at formulating their thoughts.
As an American, this is a little embarrassing. Then again if the Nazis won they'd probably just line every allied general up against a wall and shoot them. Show trial be damned
The fact that translations had to be used I'm sure was advantageous to Göring. Since he could understand English quite well, he had time to think over his answers before speaking.
Interesting....
@ Ridge Caples So advantageous he was sentenced to death
@@DannyBoy777777 Well that was always happening
@@DannyBoy777777 I’m not making that up, Göring cleverly outwitted Jackson in the questioning since he could understand English. While it obviously would’ve had any impact on the final outcome, it still was a bad look on Jackson’s ability as a prosecutor in this case.
@@greenlime1997 The presentation of Göring's memorandum, 13 July 1941, decimated his testimony. For in it, Göring explicitly ordered Heydrich to set in motion the so-called Final Solution. Jackson won.
Putting goering on a diet and getting him off drugs worked against the prosecution , he is sharp and way to clever for them to handle.
His IQ score was 138 making Goring a low level genius.
@Sam Spade I think 🤔 your assessment is based on your prejudices of that time. Hitler caused the loss due to his inability to listen 👂
@@thepatriot8514 oh he listened to Goring, who said not to worry about the retreating soldiers or incoming ones because he would handle them. Such a bafoon
@@AtillatheFun he was also under the authority of a dictator. If you listened you would know this.
@@thepatriot8514 So the great hero of WW1 was a coward and a bootlicker?
How many US presidents would have been found guilty if these same standards were applied to them?
Every one of them!
None of them
That's not really the point. Two wrongs dont make a right.
You got to lose the war
Amen, someone knows whats up, double standards 😂
why was there not a traslation for all of what was said? At about the 6:08 mark Reichsmachal Georing is saying something but no translation is provided. Makes me feel like something has been intentionally obscured when something like this happens.
Just read the trial transcript. It's available online for free. Nothing intentionally hidden here. Basically Jackson is getting worked up by Goering's long answers and it's starting to annoy him. Jackson says Goering should only answer yes or no but Judge Lawrence overrules him and says Goering should be allowed to explain. This happens in the other videos. Jackson did not do well against Goering. Indeed, he botched it. The British prosecution rescued it.
@@muttley8818 Id rather hear his own words, myself. Transcription is second hand, if not obscured.
Simple: he was innocent. 😉
Good eye (ear)! In my opinion, u are 110% correct to be skeptical!
Despite everything he may have done, I must say as an American citizen, I cannot help but appreciate Göring's intelligence and wit during his questioning. Especially the way he pointed out the hypocrisy (and irony) of the prosecuting governments.
@@muttley8818
I believe what ur referring to may be heard in the opening of this video, if not something similar: ua-cam.com/video/iHQ67PBvc-Q/v-deo.html
This footage is gold, thank you sir.
This is one of the rare times when Jackson was 'shown up' in the trial; this particular exchange emboldened the defendants. In that vein, I'm impressed that they're even posting it here. Overall, his work was brilliant.
I recently visited Courtroom 600 - The energy is still palpable. ua-cam.com/video/zsXV-YM4C4I/v-deo.html
He should have told them to visit their ally the ussr and learn how a totalitarian system worked.
3:30
"Excuse me, they didn't translate well, you asked me about concentration camps, yes?"
"So your answer is yes."
lmao wtf was that
thank you, so accurate
Goering says at the end 'das ist richtig' meaning 'if you were asking that, it is indeed correct'. The prosecutor ask confirmation. Goering confirms.
@@srrlIdl You`re right.
A German
😂🤣
Yes that’s correct. Yes
Couldn’t they have hired a smarter prosecutor? He can barley string a sentence together, and asks such superfluous questions.
His voice cracks... he is very submissive and for a good reason at that. Notice Georing's body language and how he smirks knowing he is in control.
Edit:correcting
Not to mention the leading questions and terrible self control when cutting off an answer which has to be translated for his own benefit and not waiting for translation before becoming impatient. Unprofessional
@@koontz1154 totally agree according to John Tusas book which I’m currently reading, Jackson was very prepared - he just did it very badly as he had had very very little recent courtroom experienced - as a judge he’d probably been cosseted for years by well meaning clerks who did the leg work. Having to deliver this stuff himself is a different ballgame.
@@ausar3852 Ah yeah, body language expert here ready to tell you all about how to hold your chin up to become an alpha male and attract girls. You people are such bumbling fools it's pathetic that we still have you around. I wish Hitler started with people like you first.
To be fair, the trial is a nonsense farce. How can you have a tribunal against the losers of a bitter war?
Lol imagine how uncomfortable thew Soviet delegation was when they started talking about press censorship
Or the USA delegation when he mentioned concentration camps for their own people based solely on ethnicity (Yes FDR we're talking about you and your Japanese American and German American concentration camps in the mainland USA). Not to mention the lecture on propaganda making everyone uncomfortable.
Anyone else feel like Jackson is basically yelling at Göring for rambling on without answering the question(s) when, based on my opinion, Göring DID answer said question(s)?
Georing answering honestly here knowing no mstter what its a biased court and will kill them all. So l see it as Georing's way of defending his way of belief and tries to speak through cameras to people that are watching it...not to prosecuter
Prosecutor honestly is embarrassing, at times toeing the line of a witchhunt. A fair trial is a fair trial and this prosecution clearly isn't about that. The trial may have been necessary but then so should have the trials of every country for the war crimes attributable to their name. The Russians alone objectively were worse than the nazis, but their support earned them a free pass even after being sympathetic to the axis' cause. Every country involved had stains on their hands and to be truly fair it should be treated the same.
@@koontz1154 it goes for US too... roughly %70 civilian bombing to france was done by ally bombers mainly US... There were american concentration camps too against japanese-americans but such things arent well known nor spoken by our common people. At the end they glorified themselves as ''just'' and wrote it to history books. If axis won same thing would happen reversed... Its not fair but if all was fair wars wouldnt happen in the first place lol
@@ausar3852 most definitely, US was top of the list in my mind along with Britain with countries that acted like their shit was rose scented. Like you said though history is written by the victors, rome is a good example of might makes right along with the out and out destruction of history they caused.
@@ausar3852 That is not TRUTH!!! Many of them got sentences. Some that shld have HUNG!!! Don’t talk like that! Ignorance shows thru like the brightly lit sun in a dark room!! He was an evil, EVIL man who sent MILLIONS, even innocent little children & babies to DEATH Camps to be burned alive or poisoned! Without remorse whatsoever & here he sits with his arrogance!!! That is not something to be praised ever!!!!!!!!!!
Goering, calmly, explaining what was going on, as if to a child, is somewhat comical.
"Look, we were in charge, we were elected, and when elected, with a majority, changed the government to one which doesn't permit any other party"
*Soviet Delegation is now very, very uncomfortable*
"-Moreover we would send anyone who disagreed with us to *camps* without judicial review, and only after they'd been turned over to the administration of said camp authorities, 24-48 hours, would they be permitted an attorney"
*Soviets are now sweating profusely*
"Also you have an organization to carry propaganda down to the people and to inform leadership of weather it's working"
Goering "Literally what?"
Prosecutor "You needed organizations to fight!"
Goering "Uh...yeah, we needed organizations...to fight whatnow?"
Prosecutor "Well if you wanted people killed you needed an organization to do it, like Rohm?"
*NKVD are now visibly damp*
Goering "The Rohm thing...we've been over this..."
Prosecutor "When the state needed to kill someone, you needed an axeman, didn't you?"
Goering "And...you don't?"
Prosecutor "What about the SA, SS, SD, they killed people, they did the thing"
Goering "So the SA didn't kill people, at least they weren't *supposed* to, the SS either, regardless that wasn't my thing, I had nothing to do with them, Rohm was killed by execution order, but that was carried out by the police, which I had nothing to do with. "
tl;dr, he's trolling them by making every Soviet Official in that room sweat so badly they'd need to change clothes after.
I see what he's getting at......the field marshal was taking the position that these were state related acts.
This guy is trying to personalize the actions. Which is what people here love doing.
The field marshal would of naturally believed as a German he was doing things as a state capcity not personal.
Goring was just trying to win his case, of course he made many personal decisions over war crimes
*Reichsmarshall...
Unfortunatey, you are correct. On both accounts.
It’s hard for Americans to understand, they don’t have that love for and willingness to submit toauthority that other peoples might
Why is the prosecutor making long STATEMENTS instead of asking questions??
Is this a particular style to make a statement them follow up with a vague question like
"Didn't you? " or "wasn't it?"
It sounds like a terrible way to pin down someone on a particular point
@Nastasiya ok great but I'm asking about the prosecutions lack of tact
Robert H. Jackson was a fine orator but was no good at interrogating the witness. He allowed Goering to take control of the questioning to the point that he had Jackson wrapped around his finger. It took British prosecutor David Maxwell-Phyfe to finally put Goering in his place and unravel his tissue of lies.
That form of questioning in most courts would be stopped for being seen as leading the defendant. There is a reason as well, a question isn't a statement followed by yes or no at the end. Not to mention his seeming impatience at having to have translators and the process, if he had his way they would only nod or shake their head after each of his leading statements.
Seems like a good tough cross to me.
Good job RJ.
Because it's a show trial.
Thought the "detention without trial" was a bit rich from the American prosecutor considering...you know...the Japanese internment camps and such like.
Don't forget the German American concentration camps in the mainland USA, please.
What does Göring say at 6:07 ? It isn't translated for some reason.
Das habe ich ganz klar beantwortet. Aber ich bitte, dass diese Ausführungen, die soeben gehörten zu der Antwort mit ... (er wird dann unterbrochen)
Jackson comes across as a bumbler.
Part 1 day 84? Did I miss anything?
Many other high ranking nazis were also on trialm not Göring day 84 but Nurnberg Trial day 84
They had a lot of trials
Göring got a little too indiscreet with his objective 5:40
Where's the captions?
It’s crazy the irony is the exact opposite
A kangaroo court without a right for defendants to appeal the death sentence....shameful.
Oh no, the Nazis who did not even pretend to have a politically independent court system were denied the right to appeal. Boo-hoo! How many of the people executed in concentration camps had the right to appeal? These sub-human monsters were afforded more justice in a few months that they could have summed up in their entire existence.
Is Not to be fair, is to be a glorified confession, for propaganda and all that stuff
This court set the precedents for subsequent similar trials, according to your logic everything the Nazis did was fine because in their own legislation it was legal
Yes, your opinion is that stupid.
First trial I ever heard of where the defense was FORBIDDEN to enter anything into evidence.
@@alanfitz9547 That is false, the defense was allowed to present witnesses and documentary evidence that would exonerate them from responsibility, in some cases it served and in other cases it condemned them more.
The only evidence that was rejected was that which justified the actions for "following orders" or "obedience."
Also those that justified the legality of the war and therefore of the crimes.
This is still common in several judicial processes where the validity of certain evidence is rejected, so your caricature is of no use, little apologist :(
I think these questions were written for this prosecutor by the persons above
Where is the translation?
Old Herman certainly had a good eye for a painting or two.
So true 😂
He had the same eye for pastries, of course
@@warlordofbritannia after Goering had finished eating on one occasion Hitler said " now I have seen a pig eat ".
Was there a trial over Hiroshima ?
I didn't know the trials were shoot by cameras.
Anyone else here because of Thomas777 and his series with Pete Quinones? Peak scholarship on this trial
No
I feel a lot of smoke and mirrors where used in this ''Hollywood style'' trial, some questions asked where not translated very well and one of the most important questions about the concentration camps was dealt with very poorly.
Hollywood, ey?
@@omarharo3132 they fabricated the whole trial as if it were some kind of Hollywood movie. The entire case presented against the Germans was built on mountains of false information and fake evidence.
Goering's responses remind me of our FBI director today. Very general in nature and never really admits to anything.
The USA had some nerve being as self righteous as they were at Nuremberg given how they were treating blacks at that time.
Not to downplay Jim Crow, but really?
Let alone how they treated Germans during and after the war. They committed genocide
@@UncleSamSiam But really?
@@jerbs5346 yes, really. The Russians (Bolsheviks), the USA with our evil politicians, the UK also with their own evil politicians, all backed and controlled by Sabbatean Jews, committed multiple massive genocidal rampages. Jews were one of the few groups not a victim of genocide.
LOL Jim Crow is child's play...Jackson of the USA lecturing the defendant about concentration camps and putting people in them without due process when the USA set up concentration camps on the mainland USA for Japanese Americans and German Americans without them committing a crime and solely because of their ancestry without due process or the right to an attorney.
Göring be like “yeah, and what?!”
Nuremberg Trials were illegal. Who are Americans to raise such illegal questions
Who are Americans to dictate policy for German People. Indian Military Veterans.
You mean American English French And Russian prosecution and more importantly with an English President Judge for the entire Tribunal? You're an idiot.
Invading France was illegal too
Invading France? You mean the land they took from Germany after ww1?
Yeah because we should've let the Germans start another NSDAP after they exterminated so many people and tried to subjugate the whole of Europe.
Are you incapable of rational thinking? Exactly the kind of take a useful idiot would make, the nazis would love you. For all the wrong reasons though.
@@fruitshishkabob No it wasn't, France and Britain declared war on Germany.
He certainly stood by his beliefs knowing the outcome.
Man did not expect to see so many Georing lovers in the comments
Very easy to see how American prison guards and officers were charmed by him when he was in captivity lmao
The hypocracy of these war crimes trials is astounding.
@@alanfitz9547Two wrongs don't give the Nazis a pass. I agree any genocide is awful, but whether or not a majority government, you can't systematically kill Jews, gypsies, opposing politicians, homosexuals, or the disabled because you see fit. You just can't. They needed to stand trial for it. Believe me, I see the irony, but these people couldn't get off easy. The Soviets and Americans also should have answered for their crimes, but who would put them on trial? History is written by the victors. Always.
Wieder raus geschnitten.
Wo kann man ganze Prozess sehen?
The book 'The Nuremberg Trial (1983) by John & Ann Tusa is thoughtful & thorough treatment. They criticise Jackson' work, and one sees why here: badly prepared, at times pointless, and he was defeated by Goering who played the role of leader of the accused. BTW Goering was allegedly a morphine (M) addict in 1943 e.g. according to the unreliable Speer. How come then there no injection marks on his body? And after condemned to death by Hitler (4/1945) & imprisoned by the SS (5/1945) he was paracodeine habituated (oral use) i.e. he was not M dependent. So probably during WW2 he was not dependent on M at all
Gracias por la oportunidad que nos dan para poder escuchar el juicio en nuestto idioma. en leer
Jaja ja.. Que ironía. Yo tampoco sé lo que están hablando.
Americans even back then detest personal.elbaoration in any circumstance.
you comment on a lot, about “Americans”. Explain to me, why you have such an intense negative view on us, based of a ww2 trial from WW2, as if it’s relevant?
The fact that some people supported Hitler and believed what was said about this so called “amazing camp” that he advertised is just crazy. I personally think you’re just as guilty if you weren’t even involved but still supported him. Poor people that died Rest in peace forever. I’m not saying the people that died supported him cause they had no choice but to go to the killing camp, but more for the people that didn’t even have to worry about that. I don’t really think that made sense of what I said but my heart just really breaks into pieces😢.
Clever guy this Goering
All of the men on trial had to be IQ tested to prove competent. Goring and most of the others had IQ’s in the 130’s and 140’s. Extremely clever.
After lose His precious morphine He was a bit more clever than the normal😂
If Goering knew how the soviets behaved, he would have been a free man
I don't understand what you mean.
The Soviets were never punished and were a piece of shit, murdering their own terrorized people.
He wouldnt since it was a showtrial
Imagine trying do defend Nazis on youtube with everyone to see
@@mhoppy6639haha, the Holodomor say's different.
Dont try and blame Soviet Sado masochistic behaviour that was demonstrated and known to the other 'allies' long,long...long before the Nazi's came to power.
Goering wasn't a fool, that's obvious. So, that makes his crimes even more heinous. A world war one ace, career soldier, politician, murderer.
Yea? Which ally leader wasn't just as guilty of war crimes?
@@alanfitz9547 Oh , I don't know, Adolf? Why don't you tell us and explain why. Provide details of what you consider " war crimes".
@@artisaprimus6306 Ok Josef: 1 million women "from 8 to 80" (as their motto went) graped by the "liberating" Soviets. 100,000 women graped by the "liberating" Americans. Only the blak US soldiers were ever charged with a crime (American eugenics you know). Stalin knew and even publicly defended these grapes by his troops. Any war crimes charged for this?
Major-General Raymond Hufft (US Army) gave instructions to his troops not to take prisoners when they crossed the Rhine in 1945. "After the war, when he reflected on the war crimes he authorized, he admitted, 'if the Germans had won, I would have been on trial at Nuremberg instead of them.' Surrendering jerrys taken in back and shot under commanders orders. Any war crimes for this? This was one of the exact questions actually to the German defendant. Hypocracy much?
The US/UK fire bombing of Dresden or Hiro/Naga that specifically targeting and wiped out hundreds of thousands of civilians (non-military targets). When should I expect to see the tribunal for those war crimes?
What about the internment camps in the mainland USA for Japanese and German American citizenss. Yes there were camps for American Germans as well. This was a pre-crime lockup which was also one of the questions asked of a German defendant (Goering).
So let's hear your response Josef.
@@artisaprimus6306 Ok Josef: 1 million women "from 8 to 80" (as their motto went) rapped by the "liberating" Soviets. 100,000 women grapped by the "liberating" Americans. Only the blak US soldiers were ever charged with a crime (American eugenics you know). Stalin knew and even publicly defended these rappes by his troops. Any war crimes charged for this?
Major-General Raymond Hufft (US Army) gave instructions to his troops not to take prisoners when they crossed the Rhine in 1945. "After the war, when he reflected on the war crimes he authorized, he admitted, 'if the Germans had won, I would have been on trial at Nuremberg instead of them.' Surrendering jerrys taken in back and shot under commanders orders. Any war crimes for this? This was one of the exact questions actually to the German defendant. Hypocracy much?
The US/UK fire bombing of Dresden or Hiro/Naga that specifically targeting and wiped out hundreds of thousands of civilians (non-military targets). When should I expect to see the tribunal for those war crimes?
What about the internment camps in the mainland USA for Japanese and German American citizenss. Yes there were camps for American Germans as well. This was a pre-crime lockup which was also one of the questions asked of a German defendant (Goering).
So let's hear your response Josef.
Well said
Putting an innocent man on trial, to be judged by criminals is the greatest farse the world has ever seen
innocent ?? goering ??
Cry more loser
They don't even show Goering on the stand answering the questions. There are better vids than this.
Göring ist so cool on ice...der hat keine angst..das ist sein erbe
Deshalb hat er sich auch als einziger vorher umgebracht..der fette Angsthase
Ey du deutscher kelb willst du dir ein fangen ?
"Er" hat keine Angst="he"has no fear. Der would mean the.
@@daynejohnson4367also sprichst du klar gar kein Deutsch 😂
@@daynejohnson4367 Nein wenn du Deutsch sprechen konntest wurdest du es verstehen
I'm leaving this comment here- for what it's worth- a bit out of sync: I watched the available clips of Goering's cross examination by David Maxwell Fyfe, prompted by media report praising it as rare piece of legal brilliance. I'm baffled. Not wanting to offend anyone, I was only to watch a rather bumbling Maxwell-Fyfe trying to pin Goering's holiday dates (presumably with a view to proving Goering's prior knowledge of shootings of POWs)-- it was rather terrible. Maybe I have missed the "clever" passages but there-- as in this clip-- sorry to say, the prosecutors are not really coming across all that sharp.
Ah, the final defense of every coward-I was just following orders. Except Goering was too much of a coward to even admit this, so he pretended that the second most powerful man in Germany was actually powerless
You obviously didn't even bother to watch this 10 minute clip or any others. Goering took responsibility for everything.
The question was never which man had the greater intellect. If that's how you're thinking going into this, you're already fucking up.
Worthless prosecutor 😂
Why do you think that? These questions are just a formality, and Goering answers them.
@@srrlIdl Because Goering showed him up big time, Jackson was an embarrassment for the Americans, The British prosecution was much better with Maxwell Fyfe showing Jackson how it's done and showed Goering up in return.
Their excuses went from it was for science to we were threaten
We are 138!!
I’m glad to see this pathetic event to be certain once more how brilliantly H. Göring dealt with this “trial”. Also the more you dive into it the more complicated the whole movement of the NSDAP reveals itself and the more you understand that most of that time and history is totally misunderstood, twisted over, and tagged as something to please the mob and all that lobby of you know who. Bravo Göring!
Whole movement of NSDAP is farce and just another name of despotism in the name of Race ,, the ones who used every democratic oppurtunity to rise to the power took away the same rights from others ,, if weimar republic would have done this it might have been better for the germany cause i am sure they would'nt have tried to eliminate the entire race or people in general ,, the instability casued by these goons was the main problem and somehow they defend that it was there right to take away the same rights that they enjoyed ,,
Woow it feels like we are in 1940s
Question and answer have more powerful effect than speeches
Final word by Hess ...nazis were hypnotised by the Judes 🤣
Goering had no clue how hilarious his answers were to democracies around the world. Yes, the opposition parties were becoming annoying so we outlawed them. Jackson should have told the fat one that the secret service does not kill people. LOL
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pozeral som film 📼 prvé čo urobil Hitler od bral chlieb a neskôr prišli Investori
That hairline is atrocious. My god.
he was 53 of course it was
Goering made mincemeat out of Jackson