I warm to your fascination and enthusiasm for anthropology, Jahannah. I have heard this hypothesis that neanderthals leaned more towards the autistic neurotype before, and it is persuasive, because of the special challenges of living in the cold, boreal climates of Northern Eurasia compared to the subtropics and tropics. Planning a long way ahead was vital because of strong seasonality. Living in small isolated bands because of the thin dispersion of food resources in the north, and being highly attuned to the inanimate environment around them, relative to their social-human environment, would logically be adaptive. I have also read that they were slower to mature from childhood to adulthood. To this day, agrarian and hunter-gatherer peoples of tropical Africa seem more gregarious and more tradition- and custom-bound than those of the frigid north like the Yakuts, Sakha and Tuvans of northeastern Siberia and the Inuit of Greenland and Arctic Canada. I have high functioning autism, which in my case includes a particularly strong sensitivity to landscapes and weak social connections, and I also I have the flared, bell-shaped ribcage and robust, short legs that were typical of neanderthals.
RE: More skilled at ganging up on everyone As someone with suspected Asperger's (and with a very decided social disorder), I can assure you that this very much rings true when I compare it with experiences in my life, not to mention what has been documented in interactions between those on the spectrum and "normal" people, most notably that normal people see those of us on the spectrum as strange and outsiders, the "uncanny valley" if you will in which we look human but don't quite behave as such. Homo sapiens have a tendency to "other" anyone like that, and will often attribute some of the worst things onto them, so if something bad happens in the village -- they know who to blame. So yeah, having lived an experience in which gossip about me led to bullying which led to a lifelong disability of PTSD, every single thing that you said here rings true, and brings a lot of this into perspective.
So if what you say is true… then those on the spectrum are the closest thing to these pre historical humans left alive in today’s world… it also in a way may reshape how think about about those on the spectrum in terms of being viable mating partners because most people because of labels like autism wouldn’t be too keen to take some one like that for a partner. If it’s framed more like this …that these peoples genes are simply expressing traits of these long extinct versions of humans maybe it will begin to be understood as them being a different type of human rather than a human with some sort of “defect”. And know that I think about it what if our current understanding of the history of the human family tree is was holding some of these ancient people back from coming back in new ways as others species have on earth… because we have assumed that the traits are defective elements and not that they weren’t meant to be exactly like a “ Homosapien” but more like an updated version of these prehistoric men and women….if that is in fact the case it begins to look more like a form of “genetic colonization” of sorts to a degree
it certainly makes a lot of sense. before i was diagnosed with autism, i always felt alien to everybody else. while they were concerned with maintaining their social lives, i always felt a need to learn and understand the world better. I always feel a strong connection with animals, which has stayed with me since childhood, but also with a natural kind of skepticism of the intent of other people. Because people are so good at lying and masking their intentions, i always feel apprehensive when interacting with people I'm not familiar with. I've always preferred having a smaller group of like-minded people as friends, than having to play a constant social balancing act for people who often only care on a surface level.
I only played 10 seconds of this video but had to stop it cause I wanted to get this one BOI I nearly spat when I saw this video recommended to me because I was thinking about how the neanderthals are theorized to have been more intelligent than homo sapians - but what helped homo sapiens survive was the fact that we are far more creative. Which lead me to the idea that maybe the way we as autistic people see and understand the world Is similar to that of neanderthals. I mean we interbred, that is a known fact but that isn't the biggest thing. We have changed a lot, more so we have changed the environment around us to fit to our needs and wants. We live in an environment where we are taking in more and more information. Maybe the rise in autism is our way of adapting to what is best suitable the world we now live in. I just found it crazy how you came up with that connection theory I did EDIT: I just finished this video and I can't believe how close my theory came to actual research and genuine theories are! I feel quite proud on that. I also saw many comments about them autistic and being close to animals and I just wanted to add I can relate to that.
You made the big time when Jimmy mentioned you on Joe Rogan. You deserve the attention too. You have an awesome channel. I look forward to everything you upload. I have similar interests. My DNA doesn’t contain any Neanderthal at least from what 23andMe said. I was a little surprised actually. Thanks for covering this topic Jahannah you really nailed it.
I do have Denisovan and Neanderthal ancestry. I also am on the Asperger's spectrum. I believe you have a good idea about the dynamics that played out between the groups. I've thought the same as you for quite some time now. To add to your evaluation about the group of humans conspiring to attack the Neanderthal's, I would say that humans, being more subjective, are also more likely to get on board with an idea based not on objective analysis, but on subjective group thinking. I know, personally, I am quite often on the outside looking in when it comes to rallying the population for some kind of populous movement. Great job!
And also, technically ALL life experiences are quite literally subjective, as one who is experiencing life is subjected to that experience... Also, the higher concept of ["attempted," imo] objective thinking is one that typically has to be learned over time, as it is outside the typical realm of consideration for a subjective being to intuitively come up with such a detached concept, when all that they have ever known has stemmed directly from the experience to which they have always been attached.
I have autism too (Asperger's or high functioning) and I do know I have the genes you are talking about - its on my 23 and Me. I also have good connections with animals, esp horses. I wonder if they were the ones who had first domesticated certain species or came up with the idea? Having a dog or a horse or some other creature would certainly be a benefit. Also I think one reason why I relate to horses so well is that in a way we are both "prey animals". Many people who have autism listen to background sounds. That is very similar to an animal that is always watching for a predator. Its the same body system I believe. And just as I love the horses they seem to love me too. In fact the very first time a few years ago, when I was taken out into a pasture, the alpha horse came to me on his own. And they had said he NEVER does that to a person on their first visit. Here it is 3 years later and I am learning to ride him! 💖 And in case you didn't know, many people who have autism also have hypermobility of the joints too. I wonder if that is linked to our N ancestors? I don't know how to spell it I am afraid! And as long as I am on a very meat heavy diet (grass fed meat) with very low carb my joints are fine. I can't help but wonder if this is due to the "caveman diet" of my ancient ancestors? Almost 50 Y/O and I do a lot of walking in barefoot type shoes (minimal). My toes go up in the air when I walk and my whole foot is very flexible. I bet their feet were that way too.
Thank you for these salient points and talking about your experience as I have similar propensities and am high functioning on the spectrum. I wonder what other traits folks on the spectrum may have inherited from our Neanderthal brethren of olde?
Just picking up on a few things you mentioned, my 8year old daughter has hyper mobility and is very good/loves animals. She has very bad anxiety or maybe it’s something else. No real point to this comment just resonated with me reading yours
from hunter gatherer to farming came long after Ned had died out. Ned was a hunter gatherer and there was wolf camp followers and some may have been group members and served to night alarm of predators near by, tracking prey but that is not really any kind of domestication. Animals react to pheromones, perhaps the gene causes a scent of something like 'mother'. It would be very similar across all mammals.
Hello Jahannah, I'm just some old dude from Texas who also finds history, ancient history interesting. This video was posted over a year ago however, I have recently found you. I do respect the research you put into your subjects. I also respect how you include links so as not to clame to know all!! Totally cool!! I was/am a big fan of Ben, UnchartedX, and I have seen you guys team up a time or two. Okay, I just wanted to share my respect for what you do!! Thank you :)
No he isn't. Rat talking someone and seeing them a certain way isnt a proof of an existance of a thing. Most of the time, people who are classed as mentally ill can tell they're not real. Sometimes their close friends or familly can tell its just ard boar and not really in the person, and it dosnt exist. You even said Aspergers. Thats how that one stoped being in used as a term any more, because someones mother said, "Im an expert about my son, and I know its not how to see him." and you're in for a shock if you look up what they found out aspergers really turned out to be. ua-cam.com/video/JQUWJhDJPxw/v-deo.html
This was a great video, I feel there could be something to this as well, as one other comment says by bear I believe was the name, I feel there could be a connection with autism and Atlantis and ancient Egyptians. Genes go on and on so it originated somewhere if ya think about it. Great work Johanna, have a good day.
On the cave stone arrangement: Look at it this way...if you are settling on a spot to set up camp, for a night or a few days, you find a relatively flat area and you push all the debris (rocks, sticks, etc) out of the way, off to the side. Any camp site would look similar to this when you leave it. Also piling up rocks in one spot is something humans have done for thousands of years, because you might need a good stone for some purpose on another occasion -- piling them gives you a broad selection, when needed. At the edge of farms, even today, you will find rocks piled.
There was a group of chimpanzees that were observed over a long period carrying rocks to a specific place and piling them. It seemed to have become some kind of ritual-like behavior.
Obviously, if rocks are being pushed out of the way of a campsite or being placed around a fire, arranging them in a circle is the most natural result. It would take extra effort to not put them in a circle. Only a non-circular arrangement would indicate some unusual intention.
@@MarmaladeINFP When you look at the designs it looks more practical to me. It seriously looks like they've tried to delineate separate areas for living in, as though they are dividing areas for different families or different uses. Doesn't have to be the ubiquitous 'ritual behaviour' archaeologists ascribe everything to that they do not understand.
My GOD, you are fun to look at. You are so pretty and so funny and so interesting and intelligent. You are a breath of fresh air, and you're SUCH A NERD, AND I LOVE IT!! You are one of the only ones out there in the interwebs to make this fun! Most people are so boring, but you, ooh, the passion for history just oozes out of every fiber of your being, and it is just awesome to watch. Thank you for being you and making all of this so much more interesting!!!
Just remember 10k to 12k years back, and further, sea levels were much lower than today. Many lands where primitive man resided is now underwater. This can also help to explain many of the migrations across the globe, where they literally just needed to walk where today would require a boat.
Also they had boats and were navigating prior to the accepted timeline. The Scythians were purported to have been the ones that developed many of the sea maps with sea creatures, edge of the world, other horrors, so other cultures wouldn't come out on their turf and gain their geographical knowledge and access to other unknown continents.
Very interesting, we always looked down on Neanderthal, it's even an insult. I think that they also had the gene for invention, because when you look at their itinerary from western Europe to east Asia, it follows the evolution of technology. I heard a program on the radio about a skeleton of an adult Neanderthal that had major physical impairment, an arm and a leg didn't develop properly, making it impossible for him to hunt and probably to walk, but he died as an adult and was buried with the others, so it means that the community took care of him and provided food for him, not bad for a grunting caveman... I don't understand why they are represented walking as a crackhead.
Two reasons: 1. Neanderthals were first identified in the late 1800’s, and expanded upon in the early 1900’s. That was the time period of peak scientific racism and general arrogance. 2. One of the first full Neanderthal skeletons that were found suffered from severe rheumatism and possibly some other stuff as well, which made the skeleton look hunched over and incapable of fine toolmaking. So those two facts combined created this impression that they were primitive brutes.
"I think that they also had the gene for invention" It's not a matter of one, or a handful but many. Also great apes display similiar traits to humans of adaptation to environmental factors with their tool use. What we have beyond them is more a matter of degrees rather than a revolution. What seems like a great revolution in cognitive capability is more evolution really.
@@mnomadvfx Evolution didn't happen at the same rate on every continent, without colonization/invasion, on some continents like Africa, Australia, north America people would still make fire by rubbing wood sticks and hunt with spears. So what I meant was that there was variations in human mix that didn't produce the same result, and I think that Neanderthal could be a factor.
@@Yves95128 I think it’s more environment to be honest... you need navigable rivers and certain mineral deposits or other bountiful conditions... for example, the south and East Asians score higher on IQ tests and had favourable environments yet the mastery of ocean travel and gunpowder were enough to see Europeans dominate for the best part of a thousand years now... its environment mostly!
Girl your doing a stellar job!! The passion the commitment the way you articulate yourself to appeal to younger people!!! Keep it up !! I’m on my own path and I’m very passionate about doing exactly what your doing!! I’m catching up mind body and soul !! Hope to be there with ya soon !! Your an inspiration!!!
Really like the fresh perspective you look at things with. I saw another commenter saying some people might be offended by this, I truly hope not. They now know that neanderthals we're just as smart as homo sapiens, they had an exclusive culture, they were also artistic. If it turns out that this is accurate, it might someday lead to better therapies to help those that are autistic. I've seen the difficulties that my nephew goes through, he's a great young man and wouldn't change his personality for the world but also sometimes can see in his face that he feels different, and that breaks my heart.
Probably many factors to why Neanderthals didn't prevail but you addressed it. Less of them, smaller groups and more dispersed. They weren't necessarily killed off but absorbed.
Ned's environment was boreal and after the ice age had retreated for some time the land became more open and grass land. Sapiens were more adapted to those conditions.
The latest thinking is that neanderthal had a higher basal metabolism, based upon the larger muscle mass as compared to sapiens. This provided an advantage in cold conditions IF adequate food was available. But as the ice age declined with warming came a shift in the size and abundance of game. The implication is that they slowly starved to death over generations, thousands of years, needing more calories on the average than we did. Clearly they attempted to adapt, as did we, but they were not successful.
Does make me wonder is Neanderthals just had longer pregnancies. When they encountered true humans and began to assimilate each other the Neanderthal lineage just couldn't keep up with how fast humans can reproduce.
Some probably absorbed. Some probably killed off by us directly, or other predators (perhaps some even killed by us for food when winter came). Some probably became isolated from food resources when surrounded by more capable Homo Sapiens and died from starvation. In a resource limited world, the more adaptable species will simply take all the resources given enough time.
@@mnomadvfx One problem in this discussion is estimating population numbers over 40,000 years ago for two species that are so similar that they were often mistaken for each other. Now with DNA testing many bones that were classed as neanderthal are now seen to be sapiens and vice versa. Thus “facts” have to be adjusted. They even have a couple fossils from hybrids. The theory of frequent fighting has given way to one of semi-cohabitation. Thus the proportion of neanderthal DNA in our genome. The fossil record is moot on the point of cohabitation. Likewise it was once assumed that sapiens females were bred by neanderthal males almost exclusively. Because of the mitochondrial DNA connection. Then it was realised that this was not an effective measure with the entire neanderthal population extinct. Limited evidence has also been found of back breeding between SxN hybrids and the parent stocks. Suggesting closer relations and less aggressive relationships. Starvation may not be the right word. My error. In thinking of the decline from glacial maximum we think of winter going into spring. This is not the case. It took 50,000 years to go from glacial maximum to minimum. Some argue we have yet to reach the minimum. As the climate and thus the environment slowly changed the adaptable survival traits did too. If, as suggested, neanderthal had a slightly higher metabolism, thus requiring more calories on average they would not starve per se. Rather they would slowly become less fit. Over thousands of years. Fewer pregnancies, slightly higher infant mortality, slightly shorter life spans all this leading to slow population decline. This is seen in the archeological data viewed in whole. Its a very complex picture with constant change thrown in. The one fact we know is we made it, they did not, except in their DNA we carry.
Graham Hancock. Joe rogan. N the likes have spoke about his for years. Watch the jre with Graham Hancock he talks about going to the denisova care and seeing the stuff. The lewlery is crazy
Great take on the Homo Genus, I loved your enthusiasm Jahannah! It is totally OK to wonder and imagine how ancient peoples lived and interacted with other groups, there is so much that we don't understand and a fresh and open mind is good. As genetic science continues to move forward, combined with archaeological evidence, an exciting picture of a long ago time where our very ancestors struggled to survive becomes bit by bit a little more clear!
Thank you Jahannah! I have done my DNA through 23 and Me and was told that I have more Neanderthal DNA than 98% of people in their pool, so this was super interesting to me. I love all of your shows though.
im high functioning autisic person and this is so cool because it's definitely passed down genes as my son and possibly my baby has ASD. and i get it from my dad and he gets it from his mam. crazy world huh! i find it extremely hard to speak to new people and cannot for the life of me keep eye contact! also if im touched even lightly by anyone without me knowing there going to touch me the sensation is like being burnt with a hot iron! im very lucky to have found a person who understands me and we have three children and my parents are amazing support. i think this is so interesting im going to show my mam and dad this! thankyou Johanna x
LOVE ALL your content! As a fellow actor doing UA-cam, I wish I went down this path when I started my channel as I’m a huge ancient history/theory buff. Keep up all the amazing work, you’re killing it. One of the handful of people producing great content on these subjects. Be safe and well out there !!
Love the matching mic! On the Crete thing, looking at the sea level maps in the Mediterranean, it looks to me like Crete would have been much closer to the mainland during the ice age and there was also a time long, long ago, when the Mediterranean basin wasn't filled with seawater.
It was never that much closer. You clearly haven't appreciated the distances involved, which are still considerable even with a significant drop to the level of the Minoan settlement found recently close to the shore of Crete. "and there was also a time long, long ago, when the Mediterranean basin wasn't filled with seawater." Incorrect. There are huge salt deposits on the sea bed which imply it did dry out at some point in places, but not completely, and so far back that it doesn'r matter anyways. Besides which the HUGE deposits would render the earth utterly useless to grow anything on - it's probably only the sheer size, modern depth and connection to the Atlantic Ocean of the Mediterranean that stops it from becoming like the Dead Sea in Israel. If the Strait of Gibraltar was blocked somehow then the marine life in the Mediterranean would probably be poisoned from the salt content within centuries, if not decades.
I took that 23&Me test and it came back saying that I had 3% North African heritage which was later narrowed down to Coptic Egyptian. I would be curious to know if we're beginning to recoalesce as a group and why? Also, Jahannah you're doing a great job these videos are fascinating 👏 👍, and you're also absolutely hilarious! A screenshot of the frame of you with your eyes looking up/crossed is meme gold!!!!😂
3% is minimal. We live in a globalised age where someone could have a weekend in Ibiza hundreds if not thousands of miles from home, conceive a child and go back to work days later so greater genetic diversity is less a surprise than an eventuality.
It's funny that you mentioned it, bc I came SO CLOSE to taking the EXACT SAME SCREENSHOT, before deciding that that was really stupid of me (both bc it's such a predictably immature thing for me to do, and bc she makes SO MANY such hilarious faces, that I could easily find several examples in ANY ONE of her videos...!! 😆 (Also, unless I knew her personally, what would I USE the images for....?? 😄
I have autism and so does my mom and daughter, it’s definitely genetic. I found this very interesting even though I was apprehensive about the idea when I saw your title. But you’re right there is misinformation about our subspecies and Neanderthals. So thanks for the info, this was really interesting!
It’s 100% genetic I believe my friend has 4 siblings all with autism ( she also thinks she’s in the spectrum but has never been tested due to it not being common when we were younger) and her son had autism too it can’t just be coincidence
As someone who was diagnosed as Autistic fairly recently, this makes a lot of sense. Before my diagnosis, I always said I feel like a different species. The majority of people just seem to work differently to me. I hope there's more research done on this topic. It could also be a potential future diagnostic tool.
What is your age? I’m in my 40s and have always felt a bit different. I’ve sometimes wondered if there’s something wrong with me or maybe I just plain like to be alone and think about all kind of crazy science and history because that’s what my mind happens to like…. Dunno.
@@STMYL2525 Was diagnosed ADHD at 47yo and autistic at 49yo. also thought something was wrong with me, before I was assessed. Now realised I'm neurodivergent with nothing wrong with me.
@@MrAndywills About the same here, but I always thought there was something wrong with almost everyone else. If people were like me, there would be no war, no murder, no theft. No use for the concept of theft, really. I could go on. Oh well. :)
Everyone making serious comments about the science and all. I just wish to express my appreciation at the entertaining delivery with the silly faces. You're quite the comedy artist.
I love how enthusiastic you are about this subject. It's good to see outside the lines. We "humans" could've had a civilization as large as ours today 10,000 years ago with absolutely no way for us to know. We might be only finding miniscule amounts of evidence of civilizations but people would rather lie to themselves and settle on having it all figured out "which we do not". Thank you for being one of the very few people in the world of UA-cam History that can see the truth..I love all history but the only thing I love more is your eyes. 🤮🤮🤮 It doesn't hurt being really beautiful and spreading your enthusiasm for the subject.. Have a great afternoon 💯
"We "humans" could've had a civilization as large as ours today" There is a huuuuuuuge fallacy in that statement. We do not have one singular civilisation today. We have many. Don't confuse globalisation and the reach of technology for the singular merging of civilisation, because that is not what we have. Even if this age of technological advancement continues for centuries it will still take a serious cultural upheaval before we would be classed as a singular civilisation. It would have been even worse 10k years ago. As to "absolutely no way for us to know", well all I can say is this only demonstrates a woeful degree of knowledge about modern material science. Don't confuse the prevalence of cheaply made/sourced building materials for the state of all material science. There are materials we have produced that have to hold up to insanely destructive industrial manufacturing/production processes - every time a part in these factories has to be replaced this causes a slowdown and loss of profit, so there is a capitalistic impetus to drive material science to levels that make mere stone a joke to our level of achievement. We can literally synthesize compounds harder than diamond already. Harder. Than. Diamond. Let that sink in and think about it the next time some brainless blond airhead on UA-cam says there will be nothing left of us in 10k years just because these pseudo archaeologists couldn't be arsed to actually research the science.
For past civilizations we should start looking at the ocean, and previous shorelines from 10,000+ years ago, we humans seem to like beachfront property.. I think once we start looking more, into this, we shall find more cities we never knew about. Also we should look closer at doggerland. It may have ruins that should be relatively close to the surface of the water .. just some ideas.. I think once we can find these old shorelines and can dig there we may be quite surprised with what we do find.. even if it is primitive structures..
@@onewayOG We are looking plenty at Doggerland. Unfortunately as it is in the middle of the North Sea the underwater current is often counter productive to marine archaeology. It's certainly nothing like as easy as excavating the ruins of Heracleion off the shores of lower Egypt. Unless they do something insanely expensive like cordoning off an area with a giant sea wall it's going to have to be infrequent diving, light dredging, and possibly some underwater robotic drone work. All of which is considerably more expensive than excavations on land.
@@mnomadvfx The one of the biggest problems to consider is the sunken ships and lost bombs for a marine archaeology expedition depending on where, not only that the soil should be bog like and most structures would have been built out of wood. It is a shame it will be difficult to to find the imprints of structures that once could have been built and the years of water damage to bones and wood would greatly reduce surviving history.
I am so glad I found this video and your channel in general. You are so expressive and fun to watch with very interesting content. great work, thanks so much!
It might be easier to consider Neanderthals and Denisovans as different 'breeds' of humans... Like dogs. They look different, are built differently, but can still intermingle and create viable offspring. Great video! :D
No. Don't conflating breed and species. What dog breeds differences represent vs the canus lupus species is roughly equivalent to the ethnic differences between homo sapiens. ie phenotypically distinct in many features (height/weight/coloring) but with minimal genotypical differences. Neanderthals and Denisovans are still very genetically distinct species from Homo Sapiens to the point that their lineage can still be seen thousands of generations later in our DNA after they have gone entirely extinct. A better comparison would be with animals like lions and tigers that can breed together - both species are very genetically distinct yet can breed. BUT..... (and this is a very important but) It is entirely possible, if not likely that many such couplings produced offspring that could not themselves produce offspring of their own. Likely many of these Sapien/Neanderthalis or Sapien/Denisova couplings produced infertile children, but only a few were required to spread a little extra Neanderthal or Denisovan DNA into the larger Homo Sapien population.
Hi Jahannah - another good video, thanks! Two things to think about... Firstly on the stalagmite piles, evidence of burning made me think of the chemical composition of the material which is (usually) calcium carbonate. If I remember rightly calcium carbonate doesn't actually burn but, heated to the right temperature, it does denature into CO2 and lime. Heat the lime that remains and you get the incandescence that we now know as limelight! Imagine being deep in that dark cave for a group ritual when the local Shaman suddenly invokes a blinding white light before your very eyes. To be fair, it does require intense heat to do, but as you point out, we really don't have any good idea of what technologies they were possessed of. My second point is about our modern interpretation of the lives of ancient hominids - we view things through a very orthodox modern lens, so the presumption always creeps in that the demise of our ancient ancestor species was as the result of human violence, BUT... We also know that (a) the various groups clearly met and mingled and (b) according to our current understanding our own direct genetic ancestors migrated to those places where the neanderthal population already existed. Now, consider this alternative. We know from tragic recent history that the migration of Europeans to the Americas introduced viral infections to which indigenous peoples had no prior exposure and, hence, no immunity. That resulted in the demise of up to 90% of all the indigenous American peoples. Is it not possible to conceive a similar scenario, that our human ancestors could have brought with them something as simple as a flu bug that would ultimately end the Neanderthal culture except where children of mixed heritage had a genetic resistance inherited from the human parent?
We and the Neanderthals were the from the same ancestors, we were separated for who knows how long and reunited and bred to make us. Neanderthals were an extremely small population compared to homosapians. It is most likely that they simply were absorbed into the population. It would be a huge surprise if we had much more than 5% of their DNA.
Even at so low a proportion of our DNA, it makes Neanderthals more successful genetically now than when they were actually alive. And we both evolved from Homo erectus between a quarter to a half million years ago (which is a very short time from an evolutionary standpoint). Certainly NOT separate species.
@@AnthonyIlstonJones Exactly! It is funny how when it comes to humans somehow man of us miss is that other "species" to way over simply it are simply more like breeds of dogs. We all come from the same ancestors. Its just that after a thousand years a mastiff breeds with a greyhound. We often simply mixed with other variants from a common ancestor. Its just that we were similar enough to procreate. Asians and Europeans interbreed all the time but we do not call the parents different species or the children. Again a bit simplified but the same principle.
@@theautisticpage I remember reading that there were actually fertility issues between homo sapiens and neanderthal. Some of the offspring was infertile, depending on which breed / specie (I think it's somewhere in between) was male or female.
This is so interesting! I have ADHD which is in the spectrum. Funnily enough the struggle with regulating my emotions can occasionally turn me into a Neanderthal! Obvs referring to the old perception! I feel a hyperfocus coming on! 😂 Thank you! Love you, love your vids! You make things easy to understand! Xxx
THEORY: Neanderthals stayed in small isolated groups vs homo-sapiens we're in larger Tribes and communities = therefore, the Neanderthals wouldn't have nearly as much of an opportunity to reproduce... they were also ambush hunters that used a handheld spear that they would plunge into the animal when it came close enough to them and they weren't built to be able to run long distances to track down prey. Whereas... homo-sapiens used the spear throwing lever of the Atlatl, that was a projectile type of attack so they could attack from a distance and would chase the prey they wounded for long distances as the animals bled out. Eventually, the hunted animals encountered homo-sapiens far more often because they were far more nomadic and traveled in larger parties, so the animals adapted and learned that they had to run from humanoids at first sight in order to survive, which made it more and more difficult for Neanderthals to hunt. So during the long cold winters in which the Neanderthals were accustomed to being able to make a kill or 2 from hunting during the long winters, but since the animals learned to keep their distance from all humanoids, they didn't have nearly enough food to feed their children to keep them strong and healthy in order to keep the future generations procreating... therefore, they eventually died off and the survivors likely assimilated into the homo-sapien Tribes over time or perished alone. After all, the homo-sapiens had a much higher probability of reproducing more often, there's safety in numbers and they went where the food was. Thus, that was the end of the Neanderthals... so since nearly everyone has a very small percentage of Neanderthal ancestors, according to their DNA, the majority that didn't perish most likely assimilated into homo-sapien Tribes, but the individual Neanderthal genus had ended. I had thought about this for awhile now and this is the most logical explanation for how it all most likely happened. Pretty interesting though. What do you think...??? Bless you all. Bless Us All. Namaste
Maybe I've missed some nuance here, but it doesn't pass the sniff test. Neanderthal DNA, as you mentioned, is mostly through Europe and the Near East going into Central Asia. Almost nil in Africa, the Americas and the Far East. Yet autism is across cultures and definitely exists in Africa and Far East (issue in Americas is too much intermarriage with colonizers).
@@OrthodoxChristian809 well then if it came from further up the family tree from Neanderthal then it isn't distinctly Neanderthal DNA is it? We're talking here about Neanderthal DNA that exists in modern humans from prehistoric relations between the two.
The specific pattern of ADHD-features is slightly different in the northern european and northern africa nomad berber variant I met. And not to forget there was a lot of gene trade from the baltics to the balkans to carthago etc. Also there are different „autistic“ lines (one more ADHD related but also lines with more very special math skills and sort of higher risk for psychoses and then some more).
Fascinating. I am going through an autism assessment at the moment, and I have a high Neanderthal percentage. This peaked my curiosity and alleviated some of my anxiety. Thanks! I shall subscribe.
Also I remember taking woodshop in middle school and he would say “keep it simple stupid” .. so I applied this phrase to my life... I never had a back pack in highschool I never carried books to class I became cool with women who gave me their locker combos. I stored my books in their lockers so if my class was across campus I didn’t need a backpack I had girls locker numberss . I’m pretty sure ancient people used “autism” to their advantage. Kids are not encouraged to think outside the box.
At least 20 species of 'modern man' that have died out, incl some pygmies, for various reasons. Perhaps there is a ancestor of both Humans & Neanderthals waiting to be discovered? There is a particular skull shape, & if your 'long toe' (the toe next to the big toe) is longer than the big toe, then these are at least two Neanderthal traits modern humans have. Thanks JJ, interesting video!
The singular of species is not specie. Also, Neanderthal, Denisovan, etc., are not subspecies of human. They are fellow human species, no more "sub" than Homo sapiens. We are all equal, but we alone survived.
I have autism (high functioning) and have looked into this for years I have found this and also it to be a possible gene trait left over from the Atlantis or pre flood people, thank you for doing a video on this and spreading awareness!! Stay Golden! 🔥❤️🐻👊🏼
I’ve had this exact thought, you must do a lot of research on this kinda stuff, I do and it took years for that thought to come to me. It’s nice to see someone with the same ideas. Great work, have a good day.
Dont you admit it doesnt exist ? Why dont we say the people who think going to school is such a great thing as a disease, put all the different attitudes and kinds of opinions they are as being a syndrome and say thats an illness. Thats actually how aspergers syndrome was invented. And you're in for a shock who invented it and what for. ua-cam.com/video/JQUWJhDJPxw/v-deo.html
@@isaacleillhikar4566 I was having similar thoughts reading the comments on this video, just have never investigated and couldn't quite put the thought into words.
Different closely related species do interbreed in nature occasionally, but their offspring are more often than not sterile hybrids. The picture with recent (ie. the last quarter of a million or so years) humans seems to be different, with the majority of humans on the planet today (certainly upwards of three quarters of the population) having between three and five percent of their DNA derived from this supposedly seperate species of Homo Neanderthalis. That doesn't sound like a load of sterile F1 hybrids to me, I think you're right to be suspicious of that one. We were and are all people, it's not that long ago that white Europeans were claiming they were the superior 'race' of humans on the planet but with the rise of genetic science we now know that ALL the humans on the planet are more closely related than a typical troop or family of chimpanzees in west Africa (a species we had a common ancestor with little more than ten million years ago). It gets better, every single human on the planet is descended from one woman (known as mitochondrial Eve) who lived in east Africa approximately seventy thousand years ago. We came THAT close to extinction. Now we are nothing short of a plague upon the face of the Earth, we are that good at adapting and surviving. As to the Autism link, it is suggested that Homo sapiens in Europe got their paler colourings from these earlier occupiers of Europe and Asia. Every Homo sapiens we have beyond fourty thousand years old is dark-skinned, being less than thirty thousand years out of Africa. My ex-wife and the mother of my Autistic son was very pale coloured, blond and blue-eyed. She was also hyper-mobile in a lot of her joints, and I am certain she was/is Autistic too (hindsight is a wonderful thing).
The pale skin of Europeans is an adaption to eating a grain based diet in a region with lower sunlight. It's unlikely the pale skin comes from Neanderthal ancestry.
@@leonieromanes7265 We've only been eating a predominantly grain-based diet for 10,000 years or less, it looks like Europeans have been light-skinned for longer than that. Given that we and Neanderthalis are both the offspring of Homo erectus it's not beyond the realm of possibilities that we aquired pale skin by interbreeding. Those with paler skin would have an advantage producing vitamin D in climates with less sunlight, though I've noticed that people I know with paler eye colours tend to have a problem driving towards sunlight at times of year when the Sun is low in the sky. Swings and roundabouts I guess, some things that helped us in the past seem to be a hindrance now. The World changes quicker than we do. 🤔😁
Jahannah cracks me up, sometimes...!! Between some of the crazy faces she makes and the way her sheer excitement shines through in her speaking while discussing the topics of her videos, causing her mouth to suddenly malfunction in what I would jokingly describe as "seemingly random, momentary bouts of an excitement-induced speech impediment (all of which I find adorable and interesting, btw -- bc she has so much personality, and because the topics that she discusses in her videos are genuinely exciting, in the first place)," I really enjoy her videos...!! It doesn't hurt that I (much like the vast majority of Americans, I would imagine) find most of the various English accents to be hopelessly irresistible, to begin with... 😊 Hilarious personal fun fact: Several years ago I exchanged the original factory default voice on my phone for one that is both female and British (possessing what I would describe as a "super-sexy, authoritative and very proper English accent"), because I find that it makes for a much more pleasant and calming listening experience... 😊 .....and also because it somehow feels like she (I call her "Mary Poppins" lol) is a much better-informed alternative to the generic voice; and, therefore is much more qualified to be fielding my various oddball queries or giving me driving directions, throughout my day...!!! x'D #True story PS: For a perfect example of the "excitement-induced speech impediment" thing that I previously mentioned, listen to the first ten seconds of this video a few times in a row... 😆 You're so cute, Jahannah, and we love you so much for all that you are and for all that you do....!! Please don't ever stop being you...!!
I'm fascinated by this topic. I feel like I might have a substantial amount of Neanderthal DNA myself but I am curious to know if autism rates in Sub-Saharan Africa are lower as that would correlate with a lower level of Neanderthal admixture.
@@gravefrightnn6444 I think that damage that mimics the deficits caused by autism can sometimes be caused by chemical exposures and such and sometimes even diagnosed as autism but I really don't believe that vaccines are a very large contributor to it. I think genetics are the biggest contributor and that autistic people generally speaking are born autistic.
I'm autistic & I've always felt much more connected to older lifestyles / humans / histories, because this society we live in that mostly neurotypicals have created is so traumatic to neurodivergent folx. All I want in my life is to have my own space out near the mountains, close enough to community to be able to choose to socialize, but not so close that we're in each other's faces. There were so many times growing up that I thought I was an alien, wasn't human, or was the reincarnation of a human / non-human hybrid. I will always choose the company of animals over neurotypicals, and I'm definitely built thicker. Not necessarily fat (although my weight fluctuates a lot), but my bones are just thicker than other people. I also find it interesting that both neanderthals & autistic folx are associated with being non-verbal / semi-verbal & communicating with grunts or other sounds. My partner is neurodivergent too & we currently live together, and probably the main "word" we use to communicate is "merrr." Depending on how we say it, it can mean very different things. MERR!!! means "very serious, drop everything you're doing & come help me." Mer means "I need your attention / help / to ask you a question, but nothing's time sensitive / of immediate importance / you don't have to heart rate up." MerrRRRrrrRRrrrr (with fluctuating pitch) means "I've been trying to get your attention for a while now and I'm getting annoyed that you're ignoring / not hearing me," or "I'm cranky because I'm hungry / tired / stressed / etc and I want your help becoming less cranky." I haven't gotten a DNA test yet (because I'm poor af bc I can't work a normal job bc I'm autistic & I can't stand being around neurotypicals all day bc I'll literally get s*icidal if I do that for too long), but it's definitely on my list of things to do eventually once I can justify the cost, and I'd be pretty surprised if I didn't have a higher percentage of neanderthal DNA. If you ever want an autistic perspective on additional research, I'd be more than happy to dive into this topic with you.
Awesome, I got started with kayleigh and now you. I've leaned a ton from both of you. Even got my wife interested, which was a hard sale because she's a touch jealous. Lol. She came around because she's also a seventh grade science teacher who loves education. And you do an excellent job at that. Thank you so much, keep up the good work.
This will be interesting. I know quite a bit about my ancestry and we have, as far as I know, 5 people, including myself with diagnosis of Aspergers/Autism!
As far as I kno, I only have adhd, but I think that's included. I was reading an article with archeologist Ludovic Slimak who noted that human tools were all identical but neanderthal tools were varied and artful. Idk, it got me thinking about neurodivergence so I googled it and was shocked at how many results came up! I then asked my mom if all those ancestry tests she did included neanderthal dna testing and yup, she has 299 variants, so less than 2%, but it's there. I would not be surprised if my dad has some too. Sooo wacky & cool.
I can understand that people on the ASD curve take this personally, but..using state-of-the-art MRI we can make finely detailed models of Neanderthal skulls, to the point we can accurately calculate the size and complexity of various lobes. They had a much larger occipital lobe (primary visual processing) to the point that the rear of a Neanderthal skull has an 'occipital bun'. Not so autistics. Point two: Severe autism on the other hand, is somewhat defined by the underdevelopment of the cerebellum. Neanderthals had a larger cerebellum than we modern Homo Sapiens, which probably translated into greater hand/eye coordination. Point three: Neanderthal eyes were 1 1/2 times larger than ours, and that again connects to the larger occipital cortex. Without going out on a limb, Neanderthals were stronger, better coordinated than we are, and possessed of night vision.
They were quicker and more efficient than humans at becoming extinct too. They even did it without having to burn up tons of fossil fuels, fill the oceans full of plastic or slash and burn large areas of rainforest. They couldn't even build ICBMs with nuclear warheads to point at each other for stupid reasons like we do either. Can't we do anything right?
And were they Savants? Megalithic stone structures worldwide suggest a savant brilliancy which we no can no longer utilise. Even though all of us have long lost remnants of the savant brain it is usually only revealed through autism.
@@MaGiCMushroomClouds not quicker, earliest examples of Neanderthal like fossils have been dated at being 430,000 years old until their fossil record vanishes 40,000 years ago, giving them 390,000 on earth, in comparison we still need to survive another 200,000 years to have matched them before we go the same way, taken into account what you've rightly said about us humans, I don't think we'll match the Neanderthals longevity, What Fools Are We
@@aaronjay4896 Not a waste at all. First step, we have enough Neanderthal skulls to use as a comparison, but as of right now we do not have a complete Denisovan skull to do even a preliminary comparison. We would need at least 20 complete Denisovan skulls to do a Neanderthal-to-Denisovan comparison, then we would need a nearly-complete hybrid skull of the 'love child' to compare brain structure and function. Hopefully, future excavations in Siiberia and Tibet will produce those fossils and their DNA.
I tested with 23andMe, and I have more Neanderthal DNA than 96% of other customers - I also have autism and a very low pain threshold. There may be some truth in the science...
My 23&Me test originally came back in the 96th percentile of those tested for Neanderthal DNA. Then they changed their testing to say 24th percentile. I have ~ 2% Neanderthal traits. 12 that are double variants. 210 that are single variants. Total 222. One particular trait of interest was having less fear of heights. I've been a pilot. I've skydived many times. I plan to take up a paramotor hobby in retirement. Interesting!
Autism is most often, if not always, genetic but it is not caused by just one gene's expression, it's some combination (since all Autistics are different) of a hundred or more differences. Psychopathy can have both genetic and environmental causes; things like poverty, neglect or abuse can be major factors.
@@gravefrightnn6444 Funny how autism "went up" as more practitioners became trained to recognize it for what it is. And give the newly-coined (circa 1940) label "autism" to what was previously called things like "juvenile psychosis." No, autism has been part of our species from the beginning; we can see it in the history books. So chill, and learn to accept us as just people. It's not a disease, we're not contagious. Our brain matter is just put together a little bit different and that does NOT happen because of any vaccine. It CANNOT happen because of any vaccine because vaccines don't rewire your brain. What's unfortunate is that autism often becomes visible at about the age when first vaccinations are given. If we didn't vaccinate toddlers at the age we do, people wouldn't think they see a connection that's not there. Thanks for your time; have a great day.😃
i have autism and mine was triggered by the mmr vaccine. i've been researching for years about other people's experiences with the condition and it seems that there is a genetic susceptibility aspect but every single autistic person i have interviewed, across forums and in person, experienced some serious event of brain trauma in their formative years. most of them had a terrible reaction to a vaccination, but some had birth complications where the umbilical cord was strangling them and they had to be born through caesarean section. there was even one case where the boy had a terrible ear infection that spread into his brain.
There is NO link between the MMR vaccine and autism, or indeed ANY vaccine and autism . This has been proven beyond all doubt! Autism is a neurodevelopmental difference that you are born with. You cannot develop it from vaccines or events after birth.
The Autism thing I found very interesting because with the hyper nerve sensitivity or sensitivity to pain and increased neuro-res ponders there is a high probability of epilepsy and very high intellects this is great if your not fighting off the beasties, an ice age and an encroaching newer evolutionary model ,I mean in battle having a seizure could seriously expedite your demise. I have seen both Autism and to various extent savants that either have higher or more focused inelegance and a lot of epileptics with exception to those who suffer brain damage from seizures, are intelligent at levels that rival Einstein. I find that really interesting but don't count out the Neanderthals there are some serious eye brow ridges and knuckle dragging types out there and like breading puppies you get the right combinations together we could be chest deep in cave men !!! ( no offense to the cave men some of my best friends are knuckle dragers) Keep up the good work sweety I really enjoyed this one.
I am aware I'm an Neanderthal Cro-Magnon hybrid, I am Asperger's, ADHD, bpd, bipolar & schizophrenic. When people call Neanderthals stupid or a bad thing, it unlocks my genes inner anger. I am very connected with my Neanderthal genes, I am happy to find this video that you have made. I would love to talk with you sometime about my ancestors.
You seem quite intelligent and able to put together information in a concise way. I really appreciate that. This is one of the most interesting and exciting areas of science.
You're right, so many obscuring curtains of the past are being pulled back to reveal so much that's new. So keep pulling! You may even discover you have some Egyptian genes! Keep digging. You're always mega interesting.
FWIW, no one ever proposed the idea that we evolved from apes. That is a misconception that Christians spread. Darwin never said any such thing. He said apes and us have a common ancestor, not that we evolved from them. The misconception began in Darwin's time at what is called the 1860 Oxford debate or the Huxley-Wilberforce debate. Huxley was an English biologist and anthropologist and proponent of Darwin and Wilberforce and English bishop. Wilberforce didn't have science on his side so he used lawyer-like sound bites and logical fallacies instead of logic and reason. At one point he tried to ridicule Huxley by saying, to paraphrase "So was it your grandmother or your grandfather that was a monkey?" Strawman and Ad Hominem - pardon the pun - logical fallacies. Wilberforce totally misunderstood what Darwin (and Huxley by proxy) were proposing. Unfortunately, it made a "soundbite" for the journalists and like filthy journalists today, they just wanted clickbait headlines. Seems fake news is nothing new. However, it was meme-like in how it spread and Christians have adopted the Strawman to this day. We have common ancestors. We are NOT descendants of apes or monkeys. It's a separate branch. And for anyone wondering what Huxley said in reply to Wilberforce, it was, "I would not be ashamed to have a monkey for an ancestor, but I would be ashamed to be connected with a man who used his great gifts to obscure the truth." Not as catchy as a soundbite or headline.
That was amazing. I like your well-rounded perspective on things. Hope you take these bits of information put things together. It's a little more refreshing than some of the scientific lecture stuff that I watch. I just found your channel today and I plan on coming back a lot. Smashed that like button!
I warm to your fascination and enthusiasm for anthropology, Jahannah. I have heard this hypothesis that neanderthals leaned more towards the autistic neurotype before, and it is persuasive, because of the special challenges of living in the cold, boreal climates of Northern Eurasia compared to the subtropics and tropics. Planning a long way ahead was vital because of strong seasonality. Living in small isolated bands because of the thin dispersion of food resources in the north, and being highly attuned to the inanimate environment around them, relative to their social-human environment, would logically be adaptive. I have also read that they were slower to mature from childhood to adulthood. To this day, agrarian and hunter-gatherer peoples of tropical Africa seem more gregarious and more tradition- and custom-bound than those of the frigid north like the Yakuts, Sakha and Tuvans of northeastern Siberia and the Inuit of Greenland and Arctic Canada. I have high functioning autism, which in my case includes a particularly strong sensitivity to landscapes and weak social connections, and I also I have the flared, bell-shaped ribcage and robust, short legs that were typical of neanderthals.
RE: More skilled at ganging up on everyone
As someone with suspected Asperger's (and with a very decided social disorder), I can assure you that this very much rings true when I compare it with experiences in my life, not to mention what has been documented in interactions between those on the spectrum and "normal" people, most notably that normal people see those of us on the spectrum as strange and outsiders, the "uncanny valley" if you will in which we look human but don't quite behave as such. Homo sapiens have a tendency to "other" anyone like that, and will often attribute some of the worst things onto them, so if something bad happens in the village -- they know who to blame.
So yeah, having lived an experience in which gossip about me led to bullying which led to a lifelong disability of PTSD, every single thing that you said here rings true, and brings a lot of this into perspective.
God bless you 🙏
I understand and feel your pain I've had the same done to me .
If homo sapiens like to gossip maybe they are the ones who should've died off...
So if what you say is true… then those on the spectrum are the closest thing to these pre historical humans left alive in today’s world… it also in a way may reshape how think about about those on the spectrum in terms of being viable mating partners because most people because of labels like autism wouldn’t be too keen to take some one like that for a partner. If it’s framed more like this …that these peoples genes are simply expressing traits of these long extinct versions of humans maybe it will begin to be understood as them being a different type of human rather than a human with some sort of “defect”. And know that I think about it what if our current understanding of the history of the human family tree is was holding some of these ancient people back from coming back in new ways as others species have on earth… because we have assumed that the traits are defective elements and not that they weren’t meant to be exactly like a “ Homosapien” but more like an updated version of these prehistoric men and women….if that is in fact the case it begins to look more like a form of “genetic colonization” of sorts to a degree
Yes, the same dynamic is at play today.
it certainly makes a lot of sense.
before i was diagnosed with autism, i always felt alien to everybody else. while they were concerned with maintaining their social lives, i always felt a need to learn and understand the world better.
I always feel a strong connection with animals, which has stayed with me since childhood, but also with a natural kind of skepticism of the intent of other people. Because people are so good at lying and masking their intentions, i always feel apprehensive when interacting with people I'm not familiar with. I've always preferred having a smaller group of like-minded people as friends, than having to play a constant social balancing act for people who often only care on a surface level.
That doesn't m an your autistic, it just means you're an introvert
I only played 10 seconds of this video but had to stop it cause I wanted to get this one BOI I nearly spat when I saw this video recommended to me because I was thinking about how the neanderthals are theorized to have been more intelligent than homo sapians - but what helped homo sapiens survive was the fact that we are far more creative. Which lead me to the idea that maybe the way we as autistic people see and understand the world Is similar to that of neanderthals. I mean we interbred, that is a known fact but that isn't the biggest thing. We have changed a lot, more so we have changed the environment around us to fit to our needs and wants. We live in an environment where we are taking in more and more information. Maybe the rise in autism is our way of adapting to what is best suitable the world we now live in. I just found it crazy how you came up with that connection theory I did
EDIT: I just finished this video and I can't believe how close my theory came to actual research and genuine theories are!
I feel quite proud on that.
I also saw many comments about them autistic and being close to animals and I just wanted to add I can relate to that.
You made the big time when Jimmy mentioned you on Joe Rogan. You deserve the attention too. You have an awesome channel. I look forward to everything you upload. I have similar interests. My DNA doesn’t contain any Neanderthal at least from what 23andMe said. I was a little surprised actually. Thanks for covering this topic Jahannah you really nailed it.
She should be on Rogan.
@@jpistolas I totally agree. 😊
Joe Rogan is the closest we have to a modern day neanderthal.
Autism has nothing to do with evolution. Autism is a regressive brain injury.
lmao Joe Rogan is the male equivalent to a woman selling essential oils that will "cure" everything except he has a podcast.
I do have Denisovan and Neanderthal ancestry. I also am on the Asperger's spectrum. I believe you have a good idea about the dynamics that played out between the groups. I've thought the same as you for quite some time now. To add to your evaluation about the group of humans conspiring to attack the Neanderthal's, I would say that humans, being more subjective, are also more likely to get on board with an idea based not on objective analysis, but on subjective group thinking. I know, personally, I am quite often on the outside looking in when it comes to rallying the population for some kind of populous movement. Great job!
Technically everyone is on the spectrum to one degree or another…. Or so it’s been said.
And also, technically ALL life experiences are quite literally subjective, as one who is experiencing life is subjected to that experience... Also, the higher concept of ["attempted," imo] objective thinking is one that typically has to be learned over time, as it is outside the typical realm of consideration for a subjective being to intuitively come up with such a detached concept, when all that they have ever known has stemmed directly from the experience to which they have always been attached.
Dude. All living humans have denisovan and neanderthal ancestry. 🤦♀️
@@kirillkrugliakov1463 No, they don't. A large proportion of sub-saharan Africans have no Neanderthal DNA whatsoever.
@@KinseySwartz they have it too. It's just much less then the eurasian 2.5%.
I have autism too (Asperger's or high functioning) and I do know I have the genes you are talking about - its on my 23 and Me. I also have good connections with animals, esp horses. I wonder if they were the ones who had first domesticated certain species or came up with the idea? Having a dog or a horse or some other creature would certainly be a benefit. Also I think one reason why I relate to horses so well is that in a way we are both "prey animals". Many people who have autism listen to background sounds. That is very similar to an animal that is always watching for a predator. Its the same body system I believe. And just as I love the horses they seem to love me too. In fact the very first time a few years ago, when I was taken out into a pasture, the alpha horse came to me on his own. And they had said he NEVER does that to a person on their first visit. Here it is 3 years later and I am learning to ride him! 💖
And in case you didn't know, many people who have autism also have hypermobility of the joints too. I wonder if that is linked to our N ancestors? I don't know how to spell it I am afraid! And as long as I am on a very meat heavy diet (grass fed meat) with very low carb my joints are fine. I can't help but wonder if this is due to the "caveman diet" of my ancient ancestors? Almost 50 Y/O and I do a lot of walking in barefoot type shoes (minimal). My toes go up in the air when I walk and my whole foot is very flexible. I bet their feet were that way too.
Thank you for these salient points and talking about your experience as I have similar propensities and am high functioning on the spectrum. I wonder what other traits folks on the spectrum may have inherited from our Neanderthal brethren of olde?
Just picking up on a few things you mentioned, my 8year old daughter has hyper mobility and is very good/loves animals. She has very bad anxiety or maybe it’s something else. No real point to this comment just resonated with me reading yours
from hunter gatherer to farming came long after Ned had died out. Ned was a hunter gatherer and there was wolf camp followers and some may have been group members and served to night alarm of predators near by, tracking prey but that is not really any kind of domestication. Animals react to pheromones, perhaps the gene causes a scent of something like 'mother'. It would be very similar across all mammals.
@@MrBonners do you think that some animals have a higher EQ level than us too, just interested in your opinion
@@Daisy-wy5mn EQ?
Hello Jahannah, I'm just some old dude from Texas who also finds history, ancient history interesting. This video was posted over a year ago however, I have recently found you. I do respect the research you put into your subjects. I also respect how you include links so as not to clame to know all!! Totally cool!! I was/am a big fan of Ben, UnchartedX, and I have seen you guys team up a time or two. Okay, I just wanted to share my respect for what you do!! Thank you :)
Your videos are so infectious!! Your presentation is so different and wonderful! Thoroughly enjoy! Great job!!
I’m just finding you and I adore your presence and how you communicate your information. Thank you!
My brother is Autistic so I find this study so interesting
Your a good person and sister! 👊🏼🙏🏼
My little brother is autistic as well. Very low functioning unfortunately. He's 30 but he has the mind of a small child.
No he isn't. Rat talking someone and seeing them a certain way isnt a proof of an existance of a thing. Most of the time, people who are classed as mentally ill can tell they're not real. Sometimes their close friends or familly can tell its just ard boar and not really in the person, and it dosnt exist. You even said Aspergers. Thats how that one stoped being in used as a term any more, because someones mother said, "Im an expert about my son, and I know its not how to see him." and you're in for a shock if you look up what they found out aspergers really turned out to be.
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This was a great video, I feel there could be something to this as well, as one other comment says by bear I believe was the name, I feel there could be a connection with autism and Atlantis and ancient Egyptians. Genes go on and on so it originated somewhere if ya think about it. Great work Johanna, have a good day.
I love your enthusiasm, so important to have younger people asking these questions. We need to keep finding answers, love your content, keep it up.
On the cave stone arrangement: Look at it this way...if you are settling on a spot to set up camp, for a night or a few days, you find a relatively flat area and you push all the debris (rocks, sticks, etc) out of the way, off to the side. Any camp site would look similar to this when you leave it. Also piling up rocks in one spot is something humans have done for thousands of years, because you might need a good stone for some purpose on another occasion -- piling them gives you a broad selection, when needed. At the edge of farms, even today, you will find rocks piled.
It's a chicken coup. It's a hot tub. It's....a baby crib. It's....
There was a group of chimpanzees that were observed over a long period carrying rocks to a specific place and piling them. It seemed to have become some kind of ritual-like behavior.
@Build&Play, why, then, do you think the rocks were arranged in circles with other design(s), not just simple piles?
Obviously, if rocks are being pushed out of the way of a campsite or being placed around a fire, arranging them in a circle is the most natural result. It would take extra effort to not put them in a circle. Only a non-circular arrangement would indicate some unusual intention.
@@MarmaladeINFP When you look at the designs it looks more practical to me. It seriously looks like they've tried to delineate separate areas for living in, as though they are dividing areas for different families or different uses. Doesn't have to be the ubiquitous 'ritual behaviour' archaeologists ascribe everything to that they do not understand.
One of the best deliveries of this information I’ve seen in a bit of time. Nice work. Thank you for being so up to date.
Wow, such a feast of info you provide in your videos. I thoroughly enjoyed this one.
this is going to be good! great to have you back, Jahannah!
My GOD, you are fun to look at. You are so pretty and so funny and so interesting and intelligent. You are a breath of fresh air, and you're SUCH A NERD, AND I LOVE IT!! You are one of the only ones out there in the interwebs to make this fun! Most people are so boring, but you, ooh, the passion for history just oozes out of every fiber of your being, and it is just awesome to watch. Thank you for being you and making all of this so much more interesting!!!
Just remember 10k to 12k years back, and further, sea levels were much lower than today. Many lands where primitive man resided is now underwater. This can also help to explain many of the migrations across the globe, where they literally just needed to walk where today would require a boat.
Also they had boats and were navigating prior to the accepted timeline. The Scythians were purported to have been the ones that developed many of the sea maps with sea creatures, edge of the world, other horrors, so other cultures wouldn't come out on their turf and gain their geographical knowledge and access to other unknown continents.
You have quickly become my favorite place for this kind of information/news.
Very interesting, we always looked down on Neanderthal, it's even an insult. I think that they also had the gene for invention, because when you look at their itinerary from western Europe to east Asia, it follows the evolution of technology. I heard a program on the radio about a skeleton of an adult Neanderthal that had major physical impairment, an arm and a leg didn't develop properly, making it impossible for him to hunt and probably to walk, but he died as an adult and was buried with the others, so it means that the community took care of him and provided food for him, not bad for a grunting caveman... I don't understand why they are represented walking as a crackhead.
Two reasons:
1. Neanderthals were first identified in the late 1800’s, and expanded upon in the early 1900’s. That was the time period of peak scientific racism and general arrogance.
2. One of the first full Neanderthal skeletons that were found suffered from severe rheumatism and possibly some other stuff as well, which made the skeleton look hunched over and incapable of fine toolmaking.
So those two facts combined created this impression that they were primitive brutes.
"I think that they also had the gene for invention"
It's not a matter of one, or a handful but many.
Also great apes display similiar traits to humans of adaptation to environmental factors with their tool use.
What we have beyond them is more a matter of degrees rather than a revolution.
What seems like a great revolution in cognitive capability is more evolution really.
@@mnomadvfx Evolution didn't happen at the same rate on every continent, without colonization/invasion, on some continents like Africa, Australia, north America people would still make fire by rubbing wood sticks and hunt with spears. So what I meant was that there was variations in human mix that didn't produce the same result, and I think that Neanderthal could be a factor.
@@Yves95128 I think it’s more environment to be honest... you need navigable rivers and certain mineral deposits or other bountiful conditions... for example, the south and East Asians score higher on IQ tests and had favourable environments yet the mastery of ocean travel and gunpowder were enough to see Europeans dominate for the best part of a thousand years now... its environment mostly!
Homo Sapiens were quite inventive before encountering Neanderthals.
Girl your doing a stellar job!! The passion the commitment the way you articulate yourself to appeal to younger people!!! Keep it up !! I’m on my own path and I’m very passionate about doing exactly what your doing!! I’m catching up mind body and soul !! Hope to be there with ya soon !! Your an inspiration!!!
Really like the fresh perspective you look at things with. I saw another commenter saying some people might be offended by this, I truly hope not. They now know that neanderthals we're just as smart as homo sapiens, they had an exclusive culture, they were also artistic. If it turns out that this is accurate, it might someday lead to better therapies to help those that are autistic. I've seen the difficulties that my nephew goes through, he's a great young man and wouldn't change his personality for the world but also sometimes can see in his face that he feels different, and that breaks my heart.
All non-Blacks are mixed with Neanderthals.
@@EvilXtianity pretty much, what is the point?
you know southpark already found the cure of autism.
@@EvilXtianity that's not true at all
@@catsbutthole
_"that's not true at all"_
Yes, it is.
Take a DNA test.
It's an easily research fact.
new fav content creator? I am obsessed with your videos!
Probably many factors to why Neanderthals didn't prevail but you addressed it. Less of them, smaller groups and more dispersed. They weren't necessarily killed off but absorbed.
Ned's environment was boreal and after the ice age had retreated for some time the land became more open and grass land. Sapiens were more adapted to those conditions.
The latest thinking is that neanderthal had a higher basal metabolism, based upon the larger muscle mass as compared to sapiens. This provided an advantage in cold conditions IF adequate food was available. But as the ice age declined with warming came a shift in the size and abundance of game. The implication is that they slowly starved to death over generations, thousands of years, needing more calories on the average than we did. Clearly they attempted to adapt, as did we, but they were not successful.
Does make me wonder is Neanderthals just had longer pregnancies. When they encountered true humans and began to assimilate each other the Neanderthal lineage just couldn't keep up with how fast humans can reproduce.
Some probably absorbed.
Some probably killed off by us directly, or other predators (perhaps some even killed by us for food when winter came).
Some probably became isolated from food resources when surrounded by more capable Homo Sapiens and died from starvation.
In a resource limited world, the more adaptable species will simply take all the resources given enough time.
@@mnomadvfx One problem in this discussion is estimating population numbers over 40,000 years ago for two species that are so similar that they were often mistaken for each other. Now with DNA testing many bones that were classed as neanderthal are now seen to be sapiens and vice versa. Thus “facts” have to be adjusted. They even have a couple fossils from hybrids.
The theory of frequent fighting has given way to one of semi-cohabitation. Thus the proportion of neanderthal DNA in our genome. The fossil record is moot on the point of cohabitation. Likewise it was once assumed that sapiens females were bred by neanderthal males almost exclusively. Because of the mitochondrial DNA connection. Then it was realised that this was not an effective measure with the entire neanderthal population extinct. Limited evidence has also been found of back breeding between SxN hybrids and the parent stocks. Suggesting closer relations and less aggressive relationships.
Starvation may not be the right word. My error. In thinking of the decline from glacial maximum we think of winter going into spring. This is not the case. It took 50,000 years to go from glacial maximum to minimum. Some argue we have yet to reach the minimum. As the climate and thus the environment slowly changed the adaptable survival traits did too. If, as suggested, neanderthal had a slightly higher metabolism, thus requiring more calories on average they would not starve per se. Rather they would slowly become less fit. Over thousands of years. Fewer pregnancies, slightly higher infant mortality, slightly shorter life spans all this leading to slow population decline. This is seen in the archeological data viewed in whole. Its a very complex picture with constant change thrown in. The one fact we know is we made it, they did not, except in their DNA we carry.
I enjoy your content and congrats on the latest conference you spoke at! I’m sure that was exciting! I enjoyed the Bast episode as well!
Thank you
i just found im on the autism spectrum a year ago. this was a very interesting video. great work!
Funny how autism went up with vaccinations.
FYI everyone is somewhere on the autistic spectrum.
@@etsidan7003 FYI everyone had mandatory vaccines growing up in the indoctrination brainwashing school system.
@@etsidan7003 false. That's not how autism works buit I do get what your point is.
Woooowwww!!! I LOVE THIS!! Amazing work hun xx Thank you xx
Oh wow, what an interesting subject.. not sure if ever seen this discussed before! I'm looking forward to it deffo 😁🇬🇧
All non-Blacks are mixed with Neanderthals.
Graham Hancock. Joe rogan. N the likes have spoke about his for years. Watch the jre with Graham Hancock he talks about going to the denisova care and seeing the stuff. The lewlery is crazy
Great take on the Homo Genus, I loved your enthusiasm Jahannah! It is totally OK to wonder and imagine how ancient peoples lived and interacted with other groups, there is so much that we don't understand and a fresh and open mind is good. As genetic science continues to move forward, combined with archaeological evidence, an exciting picture of a long ago time where our very ancestors struggled to survive becomes bit by bit a little more clear!
Thank you Jahannah! I have done my DNA through 23 and Me and was told that I have more Neanderthal DNA than 98% of people in their pool, so this was super interesting to me. I love all of your shows though.
My wife as well. 23 & me has her at 40%. It's fascinating
Well, I suppose we are kin. 23andMe reported that I have 91% more Neanderthal than anyone else they tested. #neanderthal! 😁
im high functioning autisic person and this is so cool because it's definitely passed down genes as my son and possibly my baby has ASD. and i get it from my dad and he gets it from his mam. crazy world huh!
i find it extremely hard to speak to new people and cannot for the life of me keep eye contact! also if im touched even lightly by anyone without me knowing there going to touch me the sensation is like being burnt with a hot iron! im very lucky to have found a person who understands me and we have three children and my parents are amazing support. i think this is so interesting im going to show my mam and dad this! thankyou Johanna x
LOVE ALL your content! As a fellow actor doing UA-cam, I wish I went down this path when I started my channel as I’m a huge ancient history/theory buff. Keep up all the amazing work, you’re killing it. One of the handful of people producing great content on these subjects. Be safe and well out there !!
Funny how autism went up with vaccinations.
Fascinating !! Very nicely presented dumplin!!!
Love the matching mic! On the Crete thing, looking at the sea level maps in the Mediterranean, it looks to me like Crete would have been much closer to the mainland during the ice age and there was also a time long, long ago, when the Mediterranean basin wasn't filled with seawater.
It was never that much closer.
You clearly haven't appreciated the distances involved, which are still considerable even with a significant drop to the level of the Minoan settlement found recently close to the shore of Crete.
"and there was also a time long, long ago, when the Mediterranean basin wasn't filled with seawater."
Incorrect.
There are huge salt deposits on the sea bed which imply it did dry out at some point in places, but not completely, and so far back that it doesn'r matter anyways.
Besides which the HUGE deposits would render the earth utterly useless to grow anything on - it's probably only the sheer size, modern depth and connection to the Atlantic Ocean of the Mediterranean that stops it from becoming like the Dead Sea in Israel.
If the Strait of Gibraltar was blocked somehow then the marine life in the Mediterranean would probably be poisoned from the salt content within centuries, if not decades.
👏, not only do I find this highly educational but you crack me up with the expressions you put across. You go gurl 👌👌👌
I took that 23&Me test and it came back saying that I had 3% North African heritage which was later narrowed down to Coptic Egyptian. I would be curious to know if we're beginning to recoalesce as a group and why?
Also, Jahannah you're doing a great job these videos are fascinating 👏 👍, and you're also absolutely hilarious!
A screenshot of the frame of you with your eyes looking up/crossed is meme gold!!!!😂
She’s got awesome acting talent ... so much variety in her expressions
3% is minimal.
We live in a globalised age where someone could have a weekend in Ibiza hundreds if not thousands of miles from home, conceive a child and go back to work days later so greater genetic diversity is less a surprise than an eventuality.
There is no such thing as “genetic Coptic Egyptians.” Coptic Egyptians are Christians.
It's funny that you mentioned it, bc I came SO CLOSE to taking the EXACT SAME SCREENSHOT, before deciding that that was really stupid of me (both bc it's such a predictably immature thing for me to do, and bc she makes SO MANY such hilarious faces, that I could easily find several examples in ANY ONE of her videos...!! 😆
(Also, unless I knew her personally, what would I USE the images for....?? 😄
Funny how autism went up with vaccinations.
I have autism and so does my mom and daughter, it’s definitely genetic. I found this very interesting even though I was apprehensive about the idea when I saw your title. But you’re right there is misinformation about our subspecies and Neanderthals. So thanks for the info, this was really interesting!
It’s 100% genetic I believe my friend has 4 siblings all with autism ( she also thinks she’s in the spectrum but has never been tested due to it not being common when we were younger) and her son had autism too it can’t just be coincidence
As someone who was diagnosed as Autistic fairly recently, this makes a lot of sense. Before my diagnosis, I always said I feel like a different species. The majority of people just seem to work differently to me.
I hope there's more research done on this topic. It could also be a potential future diagnostic tool.
What is your age? I’m in my 40s and have always felt a bit different. I’ve sometimes wondered if there’s something wrong with me or maybe I just plain like to be alone and think about all kind of crazy science and history because that’s what my mind happens to like…. Dunno.
@@STMYL2525 Was diagnosed ADHD at 47yo and autistic at 49yo. also thought something was wrong with me, before I was assessed. Now realised I'm neurodivergent with nothing wrong with me.
@@MrAndywills About the same here, but I always thought there was something wrong with almost everyone else. If people were like me, there would be no war, no murder, no theft. No use for the concept of theft, really. I could go on. Oh well. :)
It's Vaccines
Where’s the Neanderthal’s matter movement !?¿ :)
Everyone making serious comments about the science and all. I just wish to express my appreciation at the entertaining delivery with the silly faces. You're quite the comedy artist.
I love how enthusiastic you are about this subject. It's good to see outside the lines. We "humans" could've had a civilization as large as ours today 10,000 years ago with absolutely no way for us to know. We might be only finding miniscule amounts of evidence of civilizations but people would rather lie to themselves and settle on having it all figured out "which we do not". Thank you for being one of the very few people in the world of UA-cam History that can see the truth..I love all history but the only thing I love more is your eyes. 🤮🤮🤮 It doesn't hurt being really beautiful and spreading your enthusiasm for the subject.. Have a great afternoon 💯
"We "humans" could've had a civilization as large as ours today"
There is a huuuuuuuge fallacy in that statement.
We do not have one singular civilisation today.
We have many.
Don't confuse globalisation and the reach of technology for the singular merging of civilisation, because that is not what we have.
Even if this age of technological advancement continues for centuries it will still take a serious cultural upheaval before we would be classed as a singular civilisation.
It would have been even worse 10k years ago.
As to "absolutely no way for us to know", well all I can say is this only demonstrates a woeful degree of knowledge about modern material science.
Don't confuse the prevalence of cheaply made/sourced building materials for the state of all material science.
There are materials we have produced that have to hold up to insanely destructive industrial manufacturing/production processes - every time a part in these factories has to be replaced this causes a slowdown and loss of profit, so there is a capitalistic impetus to drive material science to levels that make mere stone a joke to our level of achievement.
We can literally synthesize compounds harder than diamond already.
Harder. Than. Diamond.
Let that sink in and think about it the next time some brainless blond airhead on UA-cam says there will be nothing left of us in 10k years just because these pseudo archaeologists couldn't be arsed to actually research the science.
For past civilizations we should start looking at the ocean, and previous shorelines from 10,000+ years ago, we humans seem to like beachfront property.. I think once we start looking more, into this, we shall find more cities we never knew about. Also we should look closer at doggerland. It may have ruins that should be relatively close to the surface of the water .. just some ideas.. I think once we can find these old shorelines and can dig there we may be quite surprised with what we do find.. even if it is primitive structures..
@@onewayOG We are looking plenty at Doggerland.
Unfortunately as it is in the middle of the North Sea the underwater current is often counter productive to marine archaeology.
It's certainly nothing like as easy as excavating the ruins of Heracleion off the shores of lower Egypt.
Unless they do something insanely expensive like cordoning off an area with a giant sea wall it's going to have to be infrequent diving, light dredging, and possibly some underwater robotic drone work.
All of which is considerably more expensive than excavations on land.
@@mnomadvfx The one of the biggest problems to consider is the sunken ships and lost bombs for a marine archaeology expedition depending on where, not only that the soil should be bog like and most structures would have been built out of wood.
It is a shame it will be difficult to to find the imprints of structures that once could have been built and the years of water damage to bones and wood would greatly reduce surviving history.
Two words. Poison vaccinations.
I am so glad I found this video and your channel in general. You are so expressive and fun to watch with very interesting content. great work, thanks so much!
It might be easier to consider Neanderthals and Denisovans as different 'breeds' of humans... Like dogs. They look different, are built differently, but can still intermingle and create viable offspring. Great video! :D
No.
Don't conflating breed and species.
What dog breeds differences represent vs the canus lupus species is roughly equivalent to the ethnic differences between homo sapiens.
ie phenotypically distinct in many features (height/weight/coloring) but with minimal genotypical differences.
Neanderthals and Denisovans are still very genetically distinct species from Homo Sapiens to the point that their lineage can still be seen thousands of generations later in our DNA after they have gone entirely extinct.
A better comparison would be with animals like lions and tigers that can breed together - both species are very genetically distinct yet can breed.
BUT..... (and this is a very important but)
It is entirely possible, if not likely that many such couplings produced offspring that could not themselves produce offspring of their own.
Likely many of these Sapien/Neanderthalis or Sapien/Denisova couplings produced infertile children, but only a few were required to spread a little extra Neanderthal or Denisovan DNA into the larger Homo Sapien population.
@@mnomadvfx Is she saying that we’re still apes?
@@moonknight4053I don't understand your question. Why suddenly would we stop to be monkeys? I mean.. How a cow could stop to be a cow?
Great episode, Johanna. I hope you continue to give us your anthropological interpretations.
Aspergers, my dentist told me that I unusually primitive 🦷 teeth. I have always wondered how much Neanderthal I may have in me.
Hi Jahannah - another good video, thanks!
Two things to think about... Firstly on the stalagmite piles, evidence of burning made me think of the chemical composition of the material which is (usually) calcium carbonate. If I remember rightly calcium carbonate doesn't actually burn but, heated to the right temperature, it does denature into CO2 and lime. Heat the lime that remains and you get the incandescence that we now know as limelight! Imagine being deep in that dark cave for a group ritual when the local Shaman suddenly invokes a blinding white light before your very eyes. To be fair, it does require intense heat to do, but as you point out, we really don't have any good idea of what technologies they were possessed of.
My second point is about our modern interpretation of the lives of ancient hominids - we view things through a very orthodox modern lens, so the presumption always creeps in that the demise of our ancient ancestor species was as the result of human violence, BUT... We also know that (a) the various groups clearly met and mingled and (b) according to our current understanding our own direct genetic ancestors migrated to those places where the neanderthal population already existed.
Now, consider this alternative. We know from tragic recent history that the migration of Europeans to the Americas introduced viral infections to which indigenous peoples had no prior exposure and, hence, no immunity. That resulted in the demise of up to 90% of all the indigenous American peoples. Is it not possible to conceive a similar scenario, that our human ancestors could have brought with them something as simple as a flu bug that would ultimately end the Neanderthal culture except where children of mixed heritage had a genetic resistance inherited from the human parent?
Interesting thought and very possible
We and the Neanderthals were the from the same ancestors, we were separated for who knows how long and reunited and bred to make us.
Neanderthals were an extremely small population compared to homosapians. It is most likely that they simply were absorbed into the population. It would be a huge surprise if we had much more than 5% of their DNA.
Even at so low a proportion of our DNA, it makes Neanderthals more successful genetically now than when they were actually alive. And we both evolved from Homo erectus between a quarter to a half million years ago (which is a very short time from an evolutionary standpoint). Certainly NOT separate species.
@@AnthonyIlstonJones Exactly! It is funny how when it comes to humans somehow man of us miss is that other "species" to way over simply it are simply more like breeds of dogs. We all come from the same ancestors. Its just that after a thousand years a mastiff breeds with a greyhound. We often simply mixed with other variants from a common ancestor. Its just that we were similar enough to procreate. Asians and Europeans interbreed all the time but we do not call the parents different species or the children. Again a bit simplified but the same principle.
@@theautisticpage I remember reading that there were actually fertility issues between homo sapiens and neanderthal. Some of the offspring was infertile, depending on which breed / specie (I think it's somewhere in between) was male or female.
This is so interesting! I have ADHD which is in the spectrum. Funnily enough the struggle with regulating my emotions can occasionally turn me into a Neanderthal! Obvs referring to the old perception! I feel a hyperfocus coming on! 😂 Thank you! Love you, love your vids! You make things easy to understand! Xxx
THEORY: Neanderthals stayed in small isolated groups vs homo-sapiens we're in larger Tribes and communities = therefore, the Neanderthals wouldn't have nearly as much of an opportunity to reproduce... they were also ambush hunters that used a handheld spear that they would plunge into the animal when it came close enough to them and they weren't built to be able to run long distances to track down prey.
Whereas... homo-sapiens used the spear throwing lever of the Atlatl, that was a projectile type of attack so they could attack from a distance and would chase the prey they wounded for long distances as the animals bled out.
Eventually, the hunted animals encountered homo-sapiens far more often because they were far more nomadic and traveled in larger parties, so the animals adapted and learned that they had to run from humanoids at first sight in order to survive, which made it more and more difficult for Neanderthals to hunt. So during the long cold winters in which the Neanderthals were accustomed to being able to make a kill or 2 from hunting during the long winters, but since the animals learned to keep their distance from all humanoids, they didn't have nearly enough food to feed their children to keep them strong and healthy in order to keep the future generations procreating... therefore, they eventually died off and the survivors likely assimilated into the homo-sapien Tribes over time or perished alone. After all, the homo-sapiens had a much higher probability of reproducing more often, there's safety in numbers and they went where the food was.
Thus, that was the end of the Neanderthals... so since nearly everyone has a very small percentage of Neanderthal ancestors, according to their DNA, the majority that didn't perish most likely assimilated into homo-sapien Tribes, but the individual Neanderthal genus had ended.
I had thought about this for awhile now and this is the most logical explanation for how it all most likely happened.
Pretty interesting though.
What do you think...???
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I just love how much you love history. I can watch you and learn from you all day.
Maybe I've missed some nuance here, but it doesn't pass the sniff test. Neanderthal DNA, as you mentioned, is mostly through Europe and the Near East going into Central Asia. Almost nil in Africa, the Americas and the Far East. Yet autism is across cultures and definitely exists in Africa and Far East (issue in Americas is too much intermarriage with colonizers).
All humans have neanderthal DNA because modern humans and neanderthals have the same roots.
@@OrthodoxChristian809 well then if it came from further up the family tree from Neanderthal then it isn't distinctly Neanderthal DNA is it? We're talking here about Neanderthal DNA that exists in modern humans from prehistoric relations between the two.
The specific pattern of ADHD-features is slightly different in the northern european and northern africa nomad berber variant I met. And not to forget there was a lot of gene trade from the baltics to the balkans to carthago etc. Also there are different „autistic“ lines (one more ADHD related but also lines with more very special math skills and sort of higher risk for psychoses and then some more).
@@OrthodoxChristian809 All birds are the same too. And fish.
Yeah, this is nonsense.
Very interesting find. Thank you for sharing this information. I look forward to hearing more.
Autism is in my family with a distant cousin. Very interesting premise here.
Fascinating. I am going through an autism assessment at the moment, and I have a high Neanderthal percentage. This peaked my curiosity and alleviated some of my anxiety. Thanks! I shall subscribe.
Also I remember taking woodshop in middle school and he would say “keep it simple stupid” .. so I applied this phrase to my life... I never had a back pack in highschool I never carried books to class I became cool with women who gave me their locker combos. I stored my books in their lockers so if my class was across campus I didn’t need a backpack I had girls locker numberss . I’m pretty sure ancient people used “autism” to their advantage. Kids are not encouraged to think outside the box.
great video, one of your best, So informative and well rounded!
At least 20 species of 'modern man' that have died out, incl some pygmies, for various reasons. Perhaps there is a ancestor of both Humans & Neanderthals waiting to be discovered?
There is a particular skull shape, & if your 'long toe' (the toe next to the big toe) is longer than the big toe, then these are at least two Neanderthal traits modern humans have.
Thanks JJ, interesting video!
Funny how autism went up with vaccinations.
I am bingewatching all of your videos, great stuff, please keep making them
The singular of species is not specie. Also, Neanderthal, Denisovan, etc., are not subspecies of human. They are fellow human species, no more "sub" than Homo sapiens. We are all equal, but we alone survived.
You do such great work! Thank you for sharing!
I have autism (high functioning) and have looked into this for years I have found this and also it to be a possible gene trait left over from the Atlantis or pre flood people, thank you for doing a video on this and spreading awareness!! Stay Golden! 🔥❤️🐻👊🏼
I’ve had this exact thought, you must do a lot of research on this kinda stuff, I do and it took years for that thought to come to me. It’s nice to see someone with the same ideas. Great work, have a good day.
I thought I heard that the dna test done on the elongated skulls in Peru all had autism, too.
Dont you admit it doesnt exist ? Why dont we say the people who think going to school is such a great thing as a disease, put all the different attitudes and kinds of opinions they are as being a syndrome and say thats an illness. Thats actually how aspergers syndrome was invented. And you're in for a shock who invented it and what for.
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@@Dave-lg5oz a lot if you ever want any references etc just ping me it’s calm! Have a lovely week 👊🏼🙏🏼❤️🐻
@@isaacleillhikar4566 I was having similar thoughts reading the comments on this video, just have never investigated and couldn't quite put the thought into words.
Thanks!
Different closely related species do interbreed in nature occasionally, but their offspring are more often than not sterile hybrids. The picture with recent (ie. the last quarter of a million or so years) humans seems to be different, with the majority of humans on the planet today (certainly upwards of three quarters of the population) having between three and five percent of their DNA derived from this supposedly seperate species of Homo Neanderthalis. That doesn't sound like a load of sterile F1 hybrids to me, I think you're right to be suspicious of that one. We were and are all people, it's not that long ago that white Europeans were claiming they were the superior 'race' of humans on the planet but with the rise of genetic science we now know that ALL the humans on the planet are more closely related than a typical troop or family of chimpanzees in west Africa (a species we had a common ancestor with little more than ten million years ago).
It gets better, every single human on the planet is descended from one woman (known as mitochondrial Eve) who lived in east Africa approximately seventy thousand years ago. We came THAT close to extinction. Now we are nothing short of a plague upon the face of the Earth, we are that good at adapting and surviving.
As to the Autism link, it is suggested that Homo sapiens in Europe got their paler colourings from these earlier occupiers of Europe and Asia. Every Homo sapiens we have beyond fourty thousand years old is dark-skinned, being less than thirty thousand years out of Africa. My ex-wife and the mother of my Autistic son was very pale coloured, blond and blue-eyed. She was also hyper-mobile in a lot of her joints, and I am certain she was/is Autistic too (hindsight is a wonderful thing).
My understanding is that only male hybrids are sterile
The pale skin of Europeans is an adaption to eating a grain based diet in a region with lower sunlight. It's unlikely the pale skin comes from Neanderthal ancestry.
@@leonieromanes7265 We've only been eating a predominantly grain-based diet for 10,000 years or less, it looks like Europeans have been light-skinned for longer than that. Given that we and Neanderthalis are both the offspring of Homo erectus it's not beyond the realm of possibilities that we aquired pale skin by interbreeding. Those with paler skin would have an advantage producing vitamin D in climates with less sunlight, though I've noticed that people I know with paler eye colours tend to have a problem driving towards sunlight at times of year when the Sun is low in the sky. Swings and roundabouts I guess, some things that helped us in the past seem to be a hindrance now. The World changes quicker than we do. 🤔😁
This was amazing. Love finding out new stuff. Thank you
Jahannah cracks me up, sometimes...!!
Between some of the crazy faces she makes and the way her sheer excitement shines through in her speaking while discussing the topics of her videos, causing her mouth to suddenly malfunction in what I would jokingly describe as "seemingly random, momentary bouts of an excitement-induced speech impediment (all of which I find adorable and interesting, btw -- bc she has so much personality, and because the topics that she discusses in her videos are genuinely exciting, in the first place)," I really enjoy her videos...!!
It doesn't hurt that I (much like the vast majority of Americans, I would imagine) find most of the various English accents to be hopelessly irresistible, to begin with... 😊
Hilarious personal fun fact:
Several years ago I exchanged the original factory default voice on my phone for one that is both female and British (possessing what I would describe as a "super-sexy, authoritative and very proper English accent"), because I find that it makes for a much more pleasant and calming listening experience... 😊
.....and also because it somehow feels like she (I call her "Mary Poppins" lol) is a much better-informed alternative to the generic voice; and, therefore is much more qualified to be fielding my various oddball queries or giving me driving directions, throughout my day...!!! x'D
#True story
PS: For a perfect example of the "excitement-induced speech impediment" thing that I previously mentioned, listen to the first ten seconds of this video a few times in a row... 😆
You're so cute, Jahannah, and we love you so much for all that you are and for all that you do....!! Please don't ever stop being you...!!
Just read a few comments. Looking forward to the video.
A great video. Thanks again for good stuff.
I'm fascinated by this topic. I feel like I might have a substantial amount of Neanderthal DNA myself but I am curious to know if autism rates in Sub-Saharan Africa are lower as that would correlate with a lower level of Neanderthal admixture.
Funny how autism went up with vaccinations.
@@gravefrightnn6444 I think that damage that mimics the deficits caused by autism can sometimes be caused by chemical exposures and such and sometimes even diagnosed as autism but I really don't believe that vaccines are a very large contributor to it. I think genetics are the biggest contributor and that autistic people generally speaking are born autistic.
I'm autistic & I've always felt much more connected to older lifestyles / humans / histories, because this society we live in that mostly neurotypicals have created is so traumatic to neurodivergent folx. All I want in my life is to have my own space out near the mountains, close enough to community to be able to choose to socialize, but not so close that we're in each other's faces.
There were so many times growing up that I thought I was an alien, wasn't human, or was the reincarnation of a human / non-human hybrid. I will always choose the company of animals over neurotypicals, and I'm definitely built thicker. Not necessarily fat (although my weight fluctuates a lot), but my bones are just thicker than other people.
I also find it interesting that both neanderthals & autistic folx are associated with being non-verbal / semi-verbal & communicating with grunts or other sounds. My partner is neurodivergent too & we currently live together, and probably the main "word" we use to communicate is "merrr." Depending on how we say it, it can mean very different things. MERR!!! means "very serious, drop everything you're doing & come help me." Mer means "I need your attention / help / to ask you a question, but nothing's time sensitive / of immediate importance / you don't have to heart rate up." MerrRRRrrrRRrrrr (with fluctuating pitch) means "I've been trying to get your attention for a while now and I'm getting annoyed that you're ignoring / not hearing me," or "I'm cranky because I'm hungry / tired / stressed / etc and I want your help becoming less cranky."
I haven't gotten a DNA test yet (because I'm poor af bc I can't work a normal job bc I'm autistic & I can't stand being around neurotypicals all day bc I'll literally get s*icidal if I do that for too long), but it's definitely on my list of things to do eventually once I can justify the cost, and I'd be pretty surprised if I didn't have a higher percentage of neanderthal DNA. If you ever want an autistic perspective on additional research, I'd be more than happy to dive into this topic with you.
neurodiversity is likely older than the Sapien-neanderthal divergence
Awesome, I got started with kayleigh and now you.
I've leaned a ton from both of you.
Even got my wife interested, which was a hard sale because she's a touch jealous. Lol.
She came around because she's also a seventh grade science teacher who loves education.
And you do an excellent job at that.
Thank you so much, keep up the good work.
This will be interesting. I know quite a bit about my ancestry and we have, as far as I know, 5 people, including myself with diagnosis of Aspergers/Autism!
As far as I kno, I only have adhd, but I think that's included. I was reading an article with archeologist Ludovic Slimak who noted that human tools were all identical but neanderthal tools were varied and artful. Idk, it got me thinking about neurodivergence so I googled it and was shocked at how many results came up! I then asked my mom if all those ancestry tests she did included neanderthal dna testing and yup, she has 299 variants, so less than 2%, but it's there. I would not be surprised if my dad has some too. Sooo wacky & cool.
I can understand that people on the ASD curve take this personally, but..using state-of-the-art MRI we can make finely detailed models of Neanderthal skulls, to the point we can accurately calculate the size and complexity of various lobes. They had a much larger occipital lobe (primary visual processing) to the point that the rear of a Neanderthal skull has an 'occipital bun'. Not so autistics. Point two: Severe autism on the other hand, is somewhat defined by the underdevelopment of the cerebellum. Neanderthals had a larger cerebellum than we modern Homo Sapiens, which probably translated into greater hand/eye coordination. Point three: Neanderthal eyes were 1 1/2 times larger than ours, and that again connects to the larger occipital cortex. Without going out on a limb, Neanderthals were stronger, better coordinated than we are, and possessed of night vision.
They were quicker and more efficient than humans at becoming extinct too. They even did it without having to burn up tons of fossil fuels, fill the oceans full of plastic or slash and burn large areas of rainforest. They couldn't even build ICBMs with nuclear warheads to point at each other for stupid reasons like we do either. Can't we do anything right?
And were they Savants? Megalithic stone structures worldwide suggest a savant brilliancy which we no can no longer utilise. Even though all of us have long lost remnants of the savant brain it is usually only revealed through autism.
So you also have some hybrid skulls that have been analyzed in the same manner? If not you pretty much wasted your time writing all of that.
@@MaGiCMushroomClouds not quicker, earliest examples of Neanderthal like fossils have been dated at being 430,000 years old until their fossil record vanishes 40,000 years ago, giving them 390,000 on earth, in comparison we still need to survive another 200,000 years to have matched them before we go the same way, taken into account what you've rightly said about us humans, I don't think we'll match the Neanderthals longevity, What Fools Are We
@@aaronjay4896 Not a waste at all. First step, we have enough Neanderthal skulls to use as a comparison, but as of right now we do not have a complete Denisovan skull to do even a preliminary comparison. We would need at least 20 complete Denisovan skulls to do a Neanderthal-to-Denisovan comparison, then we would need a nearly-complete hybrid skull of the 'love child' to compare brain structure and function. Hopefully, future excavations in Siiberia and Tibet will produce those fossils and their DNA.
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I tested with 23andMe, and I have more Neanderthal DNA than 96% of other customers - I also have autism and a very low pain threshold. There may be some truth in the science...
Funny how autism went up with vaccinations.
@@gravefrightnn6444 Funny how population went up with vaccinations.
@@gravefrightnn6444 almost as if diseases stopped killing people off, slowing down natural selection. 🤔
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My 23&Me test originally came back in the 96th percentile of those tested for Neanderthal DNA. Then they changed their testing to say 24th percentile. I have ~ 2% Neanderthal traits. 12 that are double variants. 210 that are single variants. Total 222. One particular trait of interest was having less fear of heights. I've been a pilot. I've skydived many times. I plan to take up a paramotor hobby in retirement. Interesting!
Funny how autism went up with vaccinations.
Just discovered your page let me say I love it. I have always loved history and you are very good at presenting the subject at hand.
I've always wondered what traits have been positively identified in our DNA? Is autism one of these? How about a psychopath? Are these things genetic?
Autism is most often, if not always, genetic but it is not caused by just one gene's expression, it's some combination (since all Autistics are different) of a hundred or more differences. Psychopathy can have both genetic and environmental causes; things like poverty, neglect or abuse can be major factors.
Funny how autism went up with vaccinations.
@@gravefrightnn6444 Funny how autism "went up" as more practitioners became trained to recognize it for what it is. And give the newly-coined (circa 1940) label "autism" to what was previously called things like "juvenile psychosis." No, autism has been part of our species from the beginning; we can see it in the history books. So chill, and learn to accept us as just people. It's not a disease, we're not contagious. Our brain matter is just put together a little bit different and that does NOT happen because of any vaccine. It CANNOT happen because of any vaccine because vaccines don't rewire your brain. What's unfortunate is that autism often becomes visible at about the age when first vaccinations are given. If we didn't vaccinate toddlers at the age we do, people wouldn't think they see a connection that's not there.
Thanks for your time; have a great day.😃
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Yes and yes
Well done, good topics to deep dive myself on!!
Thanks Jahannah!
i have autism and mine was triggered by the mmr vaccine. i've been researching for years about other people's experiences with the condition and it seems that there is a genetic susceptibility aspect but every single autistic person i have interviewed, across forums and in person, experienced some serious event of brain trauma in their formative years. most of them had a terrible reaction to a vaccination, but some had birth complications where the umbilical cord was strangling them and they had to be born through caesarean section. there was even one case where the boy had a terrible ear infection that spread into his brain.
There is NO link between the MMR vaccine and autism, or indeed ANY vaccine and autism . This has been proven beyond all doubt! Autism is a neurodevelopmental difference that you are born with. You cannot develop it from vaccines or events after birth.
I stopped breathing and had SIDS but was resussed as a baby and boom autism. I wouldn't be surprised at all.
Wow I have been looking for content on this, glad I found you!
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The Autism thing I found very interesting because with the hyper nerve sensitivity or sensitivity to pain and increased neuro-res ponders there is a high probability of epilepsy and very high intellects this is great if your not fighting off the beasties, an ice age and an encroaching newer evolutionary model ,I mean in battle having a seizure could seriously expedite your demise. I have seen both Autism and to various extent savants that either have higher or more focused inelegance and a lot of epileptics with exception to those who suffer brain damage from seizures, are intelligent at levels that rival Einstein. I find that really interesting but don't count out the Neanderthals there are some serious eye brow ridges and knuckle dragging types out there and like breading puppies you get the right combinations together we could be chest deep in cave men !!! ( no offense to the cave men some of my best friends are knuckle dragers) Keep up the good work sweety I really enjoyed this one.
Two words. Poison vaccinations.
Amazing presentation. Been watching a few months now. Never miss an episode now.
Keep up the great work 👍
Amazing and absolutely love this and so glad I've found this channel. It's so what I love to ponder on. Ancient human history and it's lost past.
I really enjoy your videos. Wonderful animated presentation which makes the videos all the more enjoyable. Lots of interesting information.
I am aware I'm an Neanderthal Cro-Magnon hybrid, I am Asperger's, ADHD, bpd, bipolar & schizophrenic. When people call Neanderthals stupid or a bad thing, it unlocks my genes inner anger. I am very connected with my Neanderthal genes, I am happy to find this video that you have made. I would love to talk with you sometime about my ancestors.
I just found your stuff I will be catching up I'm looking forward to it looks like some great content
I love your videos. Great job. Thank you from an American in Central Mexico. Muy bien Senorita. 👌👏
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Great topic! Ties in nicely with ancient civilization research and discovery. Good job!
Love your work!
Side note: At time 3:02 the picture is on its side, rotated 90 degrees. 😉
Fascinating topic, really love the channel and videos you do, there's something so compelling about trying to understand our ancient past!
You seem quite intelligent and able to put together information in a concise way. I really appreciate that. This is one of the most interesting and exciting areas of science.
Love watching your videos and the way you present them
You're right, so many obscuring curtains of the past are being pulled back to reveal so much that's new. So keep pulling! You may even discover you have some Egyptian genes! Keep digging. You're always mega interesting.
Absolutely love your videos, thanks you!!!!!!
I am loving your efforts and appreciate the links for deeper research.
This was very intriguing. Thank you for making the video.
Great Video J.J.
FWIW, no one ever proposed the idea that we evolved from apes. That is a misconception that Christians spread. Darwin never said any such thing. He said apes and us have a common ancestor, not that we evolved from them. The misconception began in Darwin's time at what is called the 1860 Oxford debate or the Huxley-Wilberforce debate.
Huxley was an English biologist and anthropologist and proponent of Darwin and Wilberforce and English bishop. Wilberforce didn't have science on his side so he used lawyer-like sound bites and logical fallacies instead of logic and reason. At one point he tried to ridicule Huxley by saying, to paraphrase "So was it your grandmother or your grandfather that was a monkey?" Strawman and Ad Hominem - pardon the pun - logical fallacies.
Wilberforce totally misunderstood what Darwin (and Huxley by proxy) were proposing. Unfortunately, it made a "soundbite" for the journalists and like filthy journalists today, they just wanted clickbait headlines. Seems fake news is nothing new. However, it was meme-like in how it spread and Christians have adopted the Strawman to this day.
We have common ancestors. We are NOT descendants of apes or monkeys. It's a separate branch.
And for anyone wondering what Huxley said in reply to Wilberforce, it was, "I would not be ashamed to have a monkey for an ancestor, but I would be ashamed to be connected with a man who used his great gifts to obscure the truth."
Not as catchy as a soundbite or headline.
That was amazing. I like your well-rounded perspective on things. Hope you take these bits of information put things together. It's a little more refreshing than some of the scientific lecture stuff that I watch. I just found your channel today and I plan on coming back a lot. Smashed that like button!