Respect to Owen. Has every right to be bitter about the injuries but he’s full of praise for the players he grew up playing with who didn’t have the same bad luck
I am a Korean fan of Michael Owen. I've liked you since 2001, and I've been delighted and moved to see you every moment. My football life started with you. The only football star to me is you. I hope you always stay healthy and full of passionate.
Which league did Scholes won for Utd? - Was it not likes of Cantona, Ronaldo, Ruud, Van Persie, Van der Sar, Vidic and so on primarily responsible. Scholes was a jouneyman !
People forget that he was the original star boy. Like to win the golden boot at 17 and again at 18. To be that influential to the England team before 20. He has 8 hat tricks as the teenager. EIGHT!
Na disagree mate, at Everton; Wayne Rooney is the best player I’ve ever seen at Goodison. At 16 he was running games single handed, at 17 he would have won England euro 2004 on his own, and at 18 he was scoring hat tricks in the champions league, I think he’s better than Owen at the same age.
@@charlielad6124 scored 2 against Croatia as well; he scored 4 goals in 3 games. Portugal knocked England out on penalties after Rooney got injured, France was in the group stages mate.
@@TC8787-yq7ogabsolute nonsense Michael Owen as a teenager was the best English player in history 2 golden boot awards and ballon d'Or winner before he was 21 years old Rooney at the same age was nowhere near his level
@@civildiscourse7626 so gerrard is better than scholes you dog, as balon dor winner M.Owen stated, what a stupid comparison also, milner is a midfielder, benzema is a striker where as gerrard and scholes both are central midfielders. cry more
Michael Owen is a Liverpool boy you can't knock him for that but as united fans we love him for scoring the winner in a Manchester Derby in the last minute to win 4-3 and his celebration showed he loved he did that.
My childhood hero. Prime Owen was incredibly fast and extremely agile and he had strong competition with brazil ronaldo , henry ,Raul ,Batistuta ,Kluivert ,Sukar and more . It's a shame his injuries ruined his great career
Owen top interview. To win back to back golden boots at 17 and 18 in an era riddled with top strikers showed the absolute levels of this man - clear of Rooney at that age and i'd even argue clear of Mbappe at 17/18. Injuries ruined Owen. I'm a Liverpool fan and still have respect for Owen despite not agreeing with his move to United - facts are facts was an animal. Respect for the truth about Gerrard but in reality Owen was four years ahead of Gerrard - Gerrard came to the fore in 2001 despite rotating with MacAllister - what was Owen doing then? Winning the Ballon Dor thats what 😅 Liverpool and England overburdening ruined him.
At 18 he was ridiculous. The World Cup 98, world class defenders terrified of him. The confidence he had at a time it was not accepted like it is now for a young player. Real shame with injuries with the medical support know who knows what he could have done. Great interview.
Owen a better striker at 18. Faster and as good a finisher around. Rooney wasn't a centre forward at 18. And as an all round player, Rooney was obviously more talented. Owen was more than just speed, but when he lost his speed he struggled with adapting. Positioning. Shooting when not running at goal. Linking up with other players.
Utd fan..and former intermediate footballer. Gerrard is the most complete midfielder the premier league has seen. He carried lfc for a decade. Scholes was an artist no doubt.
They're too different compare though really. Owen was a quck and lethal striker, whereas Rooney was an all round street player. Owen was further ahead in his development at 18 but Rooney had so much more to his game than goals. Owen's game was only ever about putting the ball in the net. Rooney playing just off a prime Owen would have been devastating though
Owen had a lot more to his game than just goals his speed and acceleration was frightening and his intelligence on how to beat the last man and when to make the runs was the best I've seen Rooney was never as good as Owen at the same age, Owen won the ballon d'Or at 21 years of age
I’m choosing Owen at 18. He was second only to Ronaldo (the real one) he was phenomenal. Rooney was hard though but just Owen- he really was something scary in world football
Both of these guys were world class from 17 but Owen takes it up until at least 19 and I'm a massive Rooney fan. I much prefer Wayne, but Owen was deadly and everyone knew!
Without being too negative, I don't particularly rate Owen on TV as a pundit, but he seems a sound guy and very likeable. .....And let's not forget, on the field in his prime, Owen was an absolute menace. Admiration for this guy has just gone up a notch. 😎❤️
Because he was a superstar who stood out in an otherwise 2nd rate team. La Masia wasn't showing videos of Gerrard to students like Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, etc. Scholes, quite literally, taught those young students how to play football.
Now in England ppl prefer the Rodri/Gundogan type to the all action Jordan Henderson type. With 2023 eyes on, whose the best, Gerrard, Scholes, Carrick, Lampard?
Owen was unreal. World class. Injuries distroyed him. Gerrard was a player, similar to Lampard but better. Scholes was different level. Pep, xavi, inesta would have him in there barca and spanish side. Case settled. Paul Scholes was Englands best ever player. Only problem for Paul was he was born in England
@@itsinthetreesitscoming7431it's not about replacing a player mate, When you had the talent and football intelligence Paul scholes had than you make room for him in any team simple as that
@@ggmm6182 hahaha yeah ok. Just skirt the fact that you'd have to remove one of Busquets, Xavi or Iniesta to "make room for him" - all three of them all-time greats. Not in the same league. Even Ferguson knew it when he didn't "make room for him" for the CL final against them - he knew how that would have went, and so he made room for Park instead...
@@itsinthetreesitscoming7431 how is it a fact when it is your opinion not reality? You do realise scholes was over 10 years older than busqeots and iniesta and 6 years older than xavi, different generation to them scholes was wanted by juventus and inter Milan in the late 1990s when people like Zidane and davids were there, Ferguson chose park in that final to do a man marking tactical job, scholes was 35 years old at the time get real mate he was to old, The fact remains when you were as good as scholes was you make room for him regardless of who else is on the pitch Pep guardiola before the 2008 champions league final was interviewed and said scholes was the one player we want at Barcelona, Xavi asked scholes for his shirt after the match, End of discussion mate
Agreed with Gerrard VS Scholes.. Liverpool need Steven Gerrard's individual brilliance to win something and shine for the team.. Man Utd need Paul Scholes to make the entire team shine brighter.. As Thierry Henry said before, Paul Scholes made Man Utd tick.. Shut down Scholes and Man Utd wont be as good.. shut down Gerrard or not, Liverpool may win or lose..
Forget the "golden boots", Rooney was a better player than Owen at 18. Rooney was bullying men at 16, Owen was a fast finisher, Rooney was complete at 18.
Owen when young was a lot more than a finisher he could take players on get crosses in etc. Look at the argentina goal he ran past half the team to score
I’d agree agree with Owen all there. He was more lethal against any opponent at 18. Scholes more gifted than Stevie G but Stevie G’s all round game and big game pedigree is something different.
@@ArtisticFlair01 I was an adult when he came on the scene. Of course I seen him play. His best ever goals tally in the league was 19. Elite strikers can get 30 and above. Owen wasn't capable. And when he lost half a yard of pace he was finished as a player because he didn't have the skill and ability to change his game and still thrive.
@@frankdux5693 from 17/18 until he left Liverpool he was a killer and left all defenders for dead. He also won European trophy’s and the balon dor he is Elite.
While I personally think Scholes is a bit better than Gerrard, every single one of those players / managers you mentioned all have huge admiration for Stevie G - Pirlo said he was probably the most complete midfielder in Europe while Mourinho tried to sign him twice
Rubbish. There have been so many players and managers outside of england that have praised gerrard. Scholes couldnt do eveyrthing gerrard could and gerrard could do everything scholes could.
Rooney was a far better player than Owen at 18. Owen was quicker but everything about Rooney's game was at a level of players 6 or 7 years older than what he was. Strength, skill, power, first touch, vision...Rooney had it all.
@@sponish0what golden boots? Owen max goals per season was 19. I don't think he ever topped the premiership scoring charts in any season. Even the year he won the balon Dor he was 5th top scorer, behind the likes of Marcus Stewart at Ipswich town.
@@sponish0 incorrect. He scored 18 in 97-98 and shared top scorer with Dion Dublin and Chris Sutton, and they all benefitted from shearer being injured all season. In 98-99 Owen got 18 again and shared top scorer with Dwight Yorke and Jimmy Floyd hasslebaink. He's never been out and out top scorer in the prem. 19 league goals is his best ever season and he was 5th top scorer that year.
I think the more nuanced answer with some more context has to be that Owen was the better striker but Rooney was the better player at 18. Also Owen was just a super sub in World cup 1998 were as Rooney was the best player and first name on the team sheet for England in Euro 2004, the country was relying on him to carry the team despite all the other super stars like Gerard, Lampard, Beckham, scholes and Owen. Owen was definitely a very dangerous player to any defender in the world at that stage but I would say Owen would be your more likely match winner but Rooney would be your more likely man of the match. Lets not forget Rooney was probably the best player on the pitch in the first game against France with 2 teams full of super stars. It was only when he was subbed off near the end that Zidane was able to steal the show at the death.
Such different players. Owens prime didn't last long enough. Wayne had far more to his game, but Owen was as good a striker as you'll ever see with pace to burn. I'd take Rooney
Every question a baller! Remembered his Ballon D’Or, but forgot his two golden boots by nineteen. He’s right when he says nobody will beat the latter record. Not dissimilar to Mike Tyson’s record of being youngest ever heavyweight champion at twenty years old: who can you see besting that?
Mike Tyson haha don't make me laugh mate the most overrated boxer in history all the best boxers of his generation beat Lewis holyfield twice etc And Tyson is a convicted rapist don't disrespect a person like Michael Owen comparing his to Mike Tyson
Michael owen was better than mbappe. I saw mbappe at anfield score two and wheel away in front of the kop and thought “wow” hes a great player but michael owen between 17-20 before the surgery which curtailed his career was absolutely terrifying. The way argentina (argentina not faroe islands) backed off and off and off in that world cup shows they were absolutely terrified of his pace and that shows the world greatest players were terrified of a 17-18 year old.
@@peterf08 mbappe tried to run away from van dijk and he marshalled him one on one and tackled him. You couldnt do that with owen. One on one with michael owen at 17, van dijk would have been dead
Poor owens gets so much diss from liverpool fans for goin to united but what was he supposed to do? Liverpool didnt come calling? Id be upset too when liverpool didnt want him back. Fair play to the guy and in the end its business.
I remember when Rooney started to play - he was a phenomenon like Ronaldo R9. Defenders were simply terrified of him. Not even Haaland or Mbappe are comparable today.
“Comparison is the thief of joy”! Although Rooney was great R9 was something else. The best striker that’s ever been in a time where the game was tougher to play with Keane like players in every position that were world class as back then there were a lot more notable players than there are today. So no just no as Messi himself has said R9 is the greatest striker he’s ever seen and even on a bad day R9 was better than 99% of strikers that’s out there today! One must l👀k at Brazils World Cup winning team of 2002 where the commentators mocked him for being fat and he outplayed out scored and won the golden boot therefore justifying his nickname the phenomenon! You’re welcome; utd fan here and R9 I believe is the only opposition player that’s received a standing ovation at Old Trafford so knowing what you now know where does Rooney really stand?!
@@jaysparrow6631 lest we forget he was sidelined for 2 years before that World Cup … with potential career ending injuries. Those injuries completely changed his game and he was still by far the best striker to ever do it. He had 2 careers in one and both were the best to ever do it. For my money, injury free he’s the undisputed goat. Maybe without those injuries his discipline and motivation would of remained. We’ll never know. I do know. I’ve never seen anything like to Ronaldo Nazzario.
@@DonDraper8288I’ve not forgotten as I’m a year older than R9 and have fond memories of him and I’m glad you shared your view on him as you know what I know of him and I’m sure there’ll be others that’ll comment about other things that we’ve not mentioned which is great as the original commenter that started this thread will get a more detailed complete view of who/ what R9 was about as that injury still brings tears to my eyes so thank you for your post much appreciated. 🥹😢
he carried Liverpool - Scholes never carried any team. Nor would he have been capable of doing so. All he could do do was pass and score a few goals. Could run neither fast nor far, couldn't tackle and couldn't carry a ball more than 5 yards. Good passer surrounded by great players....
@@gannonmanu09 hahahaha that just proves the point, moron.... 'Good passer surrounded by great players'. This isn't golf or tennis - Man Utd won the honours - Scholes was just a cog in a better machine.
@@dozz87 id have literally told scholes and lampard to go and play for another country and built the england team round gerrard. Hed also have been the captain of england at about 19. “I dont need you i’ll just have gary barry and some other biscan type player and have gerrard maurading forward setting everyone up and scoring goals” Scholes is the type of player you appreciate if he plays for you team like firmino. A top top centre forward but you dont go round comparing him to thierry henry which is like what the scholes gerrard comparison is like.
Prime Owen over Rooney every day, that goal at 18 over Argentina was ridiculous for an 18 yr old on that stage, Rooney at that stage flattered to deceive
damn. two golden boots at 18 and 19, just cannot be broken for a long long time. then ballon at 21. need a mercurial genius padowan to emerge. Ronney was not on his level at 18.
how is it even a question 18 year old owen vs 18 year old rooney. i find that an insult to owen. owen was phenominal at 18 even teams like brazil knew who he was
All Michael Owens record will end up broken but it don’t change the fact that he was a Phenom , definitely the best live performance I have ever seen , I was in Munich in 01 when we beat Z Germans 5-1 and Owen got a Hatric, was unbelievable to see specially in Munich 😂
This is probably the best Michael Owen interview I've seen
Respect to Owen. Has every right to be bitter about the injuries but he’s full of praise for the players he grew up playing with who didn’t have the same bad luck
That's the most intelligent thing some has said in this comment section full of crazy bias people, kudos
Harry is quickly becoming an absolute gem
I am a Korean fan of Michael Owen. I've liked you since 2001, and I've been delighted and moved to see you every moment. My football life started with you.
The only football star to me is you. I hope you always stay healthy and full of passionate.
He gets a load of stick but he's very honest. Any Balon D'or winner deserves eternal respect.
It's a popularity contest.
Lampard to get you a goal, Gerrard to win you a game and Scholes to win you a league. That's it.
Rubbish 😂😂😂
Great comment
@tris421 probably the best analogy I’ve seen and I’m a utd fan! 🥹😢
Shite talk 😂😂
He had Keane beside him holding his hand
Which league did Scholes won for Utd? - Was it not likes of Cantona, Ronaldo, Ruud, Van Persie, Van der Sar, Vidic and so on primarily responsible. Scholes was a jouneyman !
Lovely interview. I enjoyed this one
What a fantastic interview. Thank you Michael and Harry.
I hated him at Liverpool, but that's just to know how good he was. I'm happy he won the league with us.
Zidane said in his prime Gerrard was the best in the world, over Ronaldo and Messi. End of discussion
People forget that he was the original star boy. Like to win the golden boot at 17 and again at 18. To be that influential to the England team before 20. He has 8 hat tricks as the teenager. EIGHT!
Very good and thoughtful answers. Thanks, Mr Owen.
United fan - agree Owen at 18 was better. Rooney as he got older was better overall and for his longevity at a top team.
Na disagree mate, at Everton; Wayne Rooney is the best player I’ve ever seen at Goodison. At 16 he was running games single handed, at 17 he would have won England euro 2004 on his own, and at 18 he was scoring hat tricks in the champions league, I think he’s better than Owen at the same age.
@@TC8787-yq7ogDominated against Switzerland haha. Got knocked out when you played against a real team like France.
@@charlielad6124 scored 2 against Croatia as well; he scored 4 goals in 3 games. Portugal knocked England out on penalties after Rooney got injured, France was in the group stages mate.
@@TC8787-yq7ogabsolute nonsense Michael Owen as a teenager was the best English player in history 2 golden boot awards and ballon d'Or winner before he was 21 years old Rooney at the same age was nowhere near his level
@@ggmm6182 Owen was an out-and-out striker, so judging them on Golden Boots is misleading.
Owen confirming what all non united fans know, gerrard is more complete than scholes
Milner is more complete than Benzema… so what? 😂
@@civildiscourse7626 so gerrard is better than scholes you dog, as balon dor winner M.Owen stated, what a stupid comparison also, milner is a midfielder, benzema is a striker where as gerrard and scholes both are central midfielders. cry more
@samwize28 cool story
@@konzaros7482cool story and a true story
owen paired up with scholes, zidane and gerrard. my read was that he chose gerrard over both zidane and scholes- thats what a beast gerrard was
Michael Owen is a Liverpool boy you can't knock him for that but as united fans we love him for scoring the winner in a Manchester Derby in the last minute to win 4-3 and his celebration showed he loved he did that.
Your not from Manchester are you?
@@ggmm6182 I am yes
@@danikahn5378 Michael Owen is from Chester not Liverpool
@@ggmm6182 you misunderstood... i wasn't implying he's from Liverpool I said he's a Liverpool boy as in from their academy like he said in the video.
My childhood hero. Prime Owen was incredibly fast and extremely agile and he had strong competition with brazil ronaldo , henry ,Raul ,Batistuta ,Kluivert ,Sukar and more . It's a shame his injuries ruined his great career
Most of Owen's mates are his former LFC team-mates. He's still LFC at heart, really.
Owen top interview. To win back to back golden boots at 17 and 18 in an era riddled with top strikers showed the absolute levels of this man - clear of Rooney at that age and i'd even argue clear of Mbappe at 17/18. Injuries ruined Owen. I'm a Liverpool fan and still have respect for Owen despite not agreeing with his move to United - facts are facts was an animal. Respect for the truth about Gerrard but in reality Owen was four years ahead of Gerrard - Gerrard came to the fore in 2001 despite rotating with MacAllister - what was Owen doing then? Winning the Ballon Dor thats what 😅 Liverpool and England overburdening ruined him.
At 18 he was ridiculous. The World Cup 98, world class defenders terrified of him. The confidence he had at a time it was not accepted like it is now for a young player. Real shame with injuries with the medical support know who knows what he could have done. Great interview.
Every single answer he says is correct!
Owen a better striker at 18. Faster and as good a finisher around. Rooney wasn't a centre forward at 18. And as an all round player, Rooney was obviously more talented. Owen was more than just speed, but when he lost his speed he struggled with adapting. Positioning. Shooting when not running at goal. Linking up with other players.
Utd fan..and former intermediate footballer. Gerrard is the most complete midfielder the premier league has seen. He carried lfc for a decade. Scholes was an artist no doubt.
There will always be someone that comes along and takes that record, it may take a while but it will be taken
They're too different compare though really. Owen was a quck and lethal striker, whereas Rooney was an all round street player. Owen was further ahead in his development at 18 but Rooney had so much more to his game than goals. Owen's game was only ever about putting the ball in the net. Rooney playing just off a prime Owen would have been devastating though
Owen had a lot more to his game than just goals his speed and acceleration was frightening and his intelligence on how to beat the last man and when to make the runs was the best I've seen Rooney was never as good as Owen at the same age,
Owen won the ballon d'Or at 21 years of age
Honestly. Owen was only behind R9 between 97-99.
He was electric.
Fun fact - Owen was joint top scorer in both those seasons with two other players
Ok your point is?
Gerrard is for sure clear, not by a lot, but clearly a level above - like messi and Ronaldo, Messi is better but Ronaldo is unreal and still behind
I thought he would have said Salah over Kane, just because of the pace to be honest. Those two bursting forward would be unreal
Love this show already
Michael James Owen with David Beckham
I’m choosing Owen at 18. He was second only to Ronaldo (the real one) he was phenomenal. Rooney was hard though but just Owen- he really was something scary in world football
Owen was world class at 18 though. As he said, 2 golden boots before he was 20 and won the Balon'Dor and got Real Madrids interest.
sorry the "real ronaldo"? nah R9 is world class but lets be serious, the real Ronaldo is and will always be Cristiano Ronaldo
would you take Owen at 18 for his 2-3 seasons of being world class or would you take Rooney knowing he would be world class for many more years
Both of these guys were world class from 17 but Owen takes it up until at least 19 and I'm a massive Rooney fan. I much prefer Wayne, but Owen was deadly and everyone knew!
Owen was deadly no doubt just a shame injuries ruined him, shame peak Owenwas just. for 2-3 years due to his injuries@@DirtyJamesUK
Sounds like MichaelOwen thinks of StevenGerrard the same way as RoyKeane does with DenisIrwn lol
Owen was the better finisher at 18...but Rooney was the better all round team player at 18...
No he wasn't
If weren’t for the injuries it’s scary what player he could of become
Without being too negative, I don't particularly rate Owen on TV as a pundit, but he seems a sound guy and very likeable.
.....And let's not forget, on the field in his prime, Owen was an absolute menace. Admiration for this guy has just gone up a notch. 😎❤️
Fr a good guy to have a convo with but he just doesn’t suit as a pundit
More players voted for Gerrard over Scholes in the Ballon d'Or, FIFA team of the year, and the PL team of the year.
Because he was a superstar who stood out in an otherwise 2nd rate team. La Masia wasn't showing videos of Gerrard to students like Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, etc. Scholes, quite literally, taught those young students how to play football.
@@benitotommassi5820am a United fan but Lampard edges for me ahead of Scholes
Means nothing, Scholes never even had an agent and he never got involved in the politics. Scholes never even spoke after games.
@@dondamon4669 right, well that's relevant...
@@dondamon4669he was an old school footballer
He makes very good points
Now in England ppl prefer the Rodri/Gundogan type to the all action Jordan Henderson type. With 2023 eyes on, whose the best, Gerrard, Scholes, Carrick, Lampard?
Michael James Owen
Owen was the reason I started playing football
Owen was unreal. World class. Injuries distroyed him. Gerrard was a player, similar to Lampard but better. Scholes was different level. Pep, xavi, inesta would have him in there barca and spanish side. Case settled. Paul Scholes was Englands best ever player. Only problem for Paul was he was born in England
who would Scholes have replaced in the Spanish national team or Barcelona?
Do tell...
@@itsinthetreesitscoming7431it's not about replacing a player mate,
When you had the talent and football intelligence Paul scholes had than you make room for him in any team simple as that
@@ggmm6182 hahaha yeah ok.
Just skirt the fact that you'd have to remove one of Busquets, Xavi or Iniesta to "make room for him" - all three of them all-time greats.
Not in the same league. Even Ferguson knew it when he didn't "make room for him" for the CL final against them - he knew how that would have went, and so he made room for Park instead...
@@itsinthetreesitscoming7431 how is it a fact when it is your opinion not reality?
You do realise scholes was over 10 years older than busqeots and iniesta and 6 years older than xavi, different generation to them scholes was wanted by juventus and inter Milan in the late 1990s when people like Zidane and davids were there,
Ferguson chose park in that final to do a man marking tactical job, scholes was 35 years old at the time get real mate he was to old,
The fact remains when you were as good as scholes was you make room for him regardless of who else is on the pitch
Pep guardiola before the 2008 champions league final was interviewed and said scholes was the one player we want at Barcelona,
Xavi asked scholes for his shirt after the match,
End of discussion mate
Scholes was a good attacker, Gerrard did it ALL!!
You had to mention those two goals in cardiff
11 prem leagues
2 champions league
1 world club cup
4 fa cups
2 league cups
Says it all really!
Alan Sherer
Owen with Kean
Agreed with Gerrard VS Scholes.. Liverpool need Steven Gerrard's individual brilliance to win something and shine for the team..
Man Utd need Paul Scholes to make the entire team shine brighter..
As Thierry Henry said before, Paul Scholes made Man Utd tick.. Shut down Scholes and Man Utd wont be as good.. shut down Gerrard or not, Liverpool may win or lose..
Forget the "golden boots", Rooney was a better player than Owen at 18.
Rooney was bullying men at 16, Owen was a fast finisher, Rooney was complete at 18.
Owen has every right to say he was better can’t ignore winning the golden boot in your first 2 seasons as a teenager that’s a ridiculous achievement
It's so tough. Both were golden kids.
The next one from Rooney is Bellingham. No one came between wazza and Bellingham.
Owen when young was a lot more than a finisher he could take players on get crosses in etc. Look at the argentina goal he ran past half the team to score
Does not matter where you start, it only matters where you end.
Depends what you did along the way.
Steve Gerrread
Rooney is the greatest English player ever, followed by Sir Bobby Charlton
He's not even in the top ten footballers of all time. Wasn't even the best in his team
English i said@@dondamon4669
@@dondamon4669that’s a laughable comment
Not if you take into account their records at international tournaments.
Get a life 😂
Ferguson had Scholes but wanted Gerrard,Mourihno had Lampard but wanted Gerrard tells you enough.
Ferguson didn't want him to replace scholes and mourinho didn't want him to replace lampard. He was seen as a player to play alongside them
I never said to replace but wanted to improve midfield which means Gerrard was better and ofc he was.@@Timekeeper1200
Guardiola had Xavi, Messi, Toure and Iniesta but wanted scholes. For how Gerrard would have fared in a top team, see Veron.
Thats a lie.@@benitotommassi5820
Lol if Liverpool could have got scholes you don’t think they would have? 😂
I’d agree agree with Owen all there. He was more lethal against any opponent at 18. Scholes more gifted than Stevie G but Stevie G’s all round game and big game pedigree is something different.
I'm a bit of a HP fan you know. He's been bringing all the sauce lately.
At 18 I agree Owen was the best of the two. Rooney reached his peak at 22-23 and then he was the best but he was no longer playing 9 but more like 10
I met Owen in an ASDA when I was 12, we asked for a picture and he told us to leave him alone
cool bro.
I'm curious who Liverpool fans would pick: Owen at 18, or Fowler at 18?
Fowler most naturally gifted goalscorer.....GOD
Fowler was wild. if i recall he scored more hatricks very early in his liverpool career. he had no fear
Paul Schol
I'd pick prime Owen as England's most clinical finisher. VERY close second is Fowler
Micheal Owen was an elite striker. He had to do what he had to do. Liverpool fans should take him back.
He never scored more than 20 league goals per season in his life.
@@frankdux5693 did you see him play or are you just talking
@@ArtisticFlair01 I was an adult when he came on the scene. Of course I seen him play. His best ever goals tally in the league was 19. Elite strikers can get 30 and above. Owen wasn't capable. And when he lost half a yard of pace he was finished as a player because he didn't have the skill and ability to change his game and still thrive.
@@frankdux5693 from 17/18 until he left Liverpool he was a killer and left all defenders for dead. He also won European trophy’s and the balon dor he is Elite.
@@ArtisticFlair01 for me strikers job is putting the ball in the net. Elite strikers achieve 25+ league goals per season. Owen never achieved this.
Rooney dominated Euro 2004 at 18. Not many could live with him even at that age. Had so much more to his game which meant he could dictate.
Dominated against Switzerland haha. Got knocked out when you played against a real team like France.
Michael Owen won the ballon d'Or at 21 years old end of discussion
@@charlielad6124he was the best player vs fRANCE. It’s not his fault Becks missed the pen and Gerrard slipped
Alonso whom played with Gerrard thought Carrick was the best English midfielder.
United fans are really triggered 😂
@@douglasdouga-ji3gn just stating Alonso's own words. Seems these words triggered you. 😂
Some english players chose Gerrad, while greats like Xavi, Pirlo, Pep, Mourinho and many others chose Scholes
This
Also Defo, Xavi alonso (the midfield partners of Lampard and Gerrard ffs), Zidanne, Guardiola, Henry
While I personally think Scholes is a bit better than Gerrard, every single one of those players / managers you mentioned all have huge admiration for Stevie G - Pirlo said he was probably the most complete midfielder in Europe while Mourinho tried to sign him twice
Rubbish. There have been so many players and managers outside of england that have praised gerrard. Scholes couldnt do eveyrthing gerrard could and gerrard could do everything scholes could.
english people hyping up their own players with fake quotes
Rooney was a far better player than Owen at 18. Owen was quicker but everything about Rooney's game was at a level of players 6 or 7 years older than what he was. Strength, skill, power, first touch, vision...Rooney had it all.
Owen won 2 goldern boots as a teenager mate could you imagine some 17 year old unkown kid today wining the goldern boot?
It's his opinion soooo stfu
@@sponish0what golden boots? Owen max goals per season was 19. I don't think he ever topped the premiership scoring charts in any season. Even the year he won the balon Dor he was 5th top scorer, behind the likes of Marcus Stewart at Ipswich town.
@@frankdux5693 he literally topped the scoring charts in his first 2 prem seasons. he won the goldern boot with 19 goals in both
@@sponish0 incorrect. He scored 18 in 97-98 and shared top scorer with Dion Dublin and Chris Sutton, and they all benefitted from shearer being injured all season.
In 98-99 Owen got 18 again and shared top scorer with Dwight Yorke and Jimmy Floyd hasslebaink.
He's never been out and out top scorer in the prem. 19 league goals is his best ever season and he was 5th top scorer that year.
I think the more nuanced answer with some more context has to be that Owen was the better striker but Rooney was the better player at 18. Also Owen was just a super sub in World cup 1998 were as Rooney was the best player and first name on the team sheet for England in Euro 2004, the country was relying on him to carry the team despite all the other super stars like Gerard, Lampard, Beckham, scholes and Owen.
Owen was definitely a very dangerous player to any defender in the world at that stage but I would say Owen would be your more likely match winner but Rooney would be your more likely man of the match. Lets not forget Rooney was probably the best player on the pitch in the first game against France with 2 teams full of super stars. It was only when he was subbed off near the end that Zidane was able to steal the show at the death.
Manchester united with Owen
prime owen made the best in the modern era look average.
None of them won any medals playing for England.
And then Henry went to Barca and saw Messi and thought OMG is that the level?
Such different players. Owens prime didn't last long enough. Wayne had far more to his game, but Owen was as good a striker as you'll ever see with pace to burn. I'd take Rooney
Look into Owens stats from 1997-2004. They stand up to anyone. I was shocked myself.
jamie Carragher = 38 international caps & 0 Prem leagues...G Nev = 85 & 8 Premier league titles
Every question a baller! Remembered his Ballon D’Or, but forgot his two golden boots by nineteen. He’s right when he says nobody will beat the latter record. Not dissimilar to Mike Tyson’s record of being youngest ever heavyweight champion at twenty years old: who can you see besting that?
Mike Tyson haha don't make me laugh mate the most overrated boxer in history all the best boxers of his generation beat Lewis holyfield twice etc
And Tyson is a convicted rapist don't disrespect a person like Michael Owen comparing his to Mike Tyson
Michael owen was better than mbappe. I saw mbappe at anfield score two and wheel away in front of the kop and thought “wow” hes a great player but michael owen between 17-20 before the surgery which curtailed his career was absolutely terrifying. The way argentina (argentina not faroe islands) backed off and off and off in that world cup shows they were absolutely terrified of his pace and that shows the world greatest players were terrified of a 17-18 year old.
Oi some RESPECT to Faroe Island mate hahaha. totally agree- with you, the only better 17/18 year old will be Ronaldo (R9).
Nostalgia bias there
No chance Owen was better than Mbappe, better finisher maybe but nothing else
@@peterf08 mbappe tried to run away from van dijk and he marshalled him one on one and tackled him. You couldnt do that with owen. One on one with michael owen at 17, van dijk would have been dead
now you deluded. mbappe is miles better than owen. get real.
Jamie carragage
Poor owens gets so much diss from liverpool fans for goin to united but what was he supposed to do? Liverpool didnt come calling? Id be upset too when liverpool didnt want him back. Fair play to the guy and in the end its business.
only idiots do that mate real fans know the score
I remember when Rooney started to play - he was a phenomenon like Ronaldo R9. Defenders were simply terrified of him. Not even Haaland or Mbappe are comparable today.
Like R9 ??? Don’t talk wet son. Rooney as great as he is is not and never has been in the same stratosphere.
“Comparison is the thief of joy”! Although Rooney was great R9 was something else. The best striker that’s ever been in a time where the game was tougher to play with Keane like players in every position that were world class as back then there were a lot more notable players than there are today. So no just no as Messi himself has said R9 is the greatest striker he’s ever seen and even on a bad day R9 was better than 99% of strikers that’s out there today! One must l👀k at Brazils World Cup winning team of 2002 where the commentators mocked him for being fat and he outplayed out scored and won the golden boot therefore justifying his nickname the phenomenon! You’re welcome; utd fan here and R9 I believe is the only opposition player that’s received a standing ovation at Old Trafford so knowing what you now know where does Rooney really stand?!
@@jaysparrow6631 lest we forget he was sidelined for 2 years before that World Cup … with potential career ending injuries. Those injuries completely changed his game and he was still by far the best striker to ever do it. He had 2 careers in one and both were the best to ever do it. For my money, injury free he’s the undisputed goat. Maybe without those injuries his discipline and motivation would of remained. We’ll never know. I do know. I’ve never seen anything like to Ronaldo Nazzario.
@@DonDraper8288I’ve not forgotten as I’m a year older than R9 and have fond memories of him and I’m glad you shared your view on him as you know what I know of him and I’m sure there’ll be others that’ll comment about other things that we’ve not mentioned which is great as the original commenter that started this thread will get a more detailed complete view of who/ what R9 was about as that injury still brings tears to my eyes so thank you for your post much appreciated. 🥹😢
Yes Owen was better than Rooney at 18 and Also pretty much any other player you want to draw that comparison .
Harry Kane
Every invincible Arsenal player thought Scholes was the best man utd player. That makes Scholes the best player in England bar some of the invicibles.
12 draws and losing all cup competitions 😂
@@douglasdouga-ji3gn triggered. 😂
Er said who? Vieira picked Gerrard over himself and Keane as the best ever.
People saying Gérard could carry a team and Scholes didn't but what happened at England Steve never carried longhand
he carried Liverpool - Scholes never carried any team.
Nor would he have been capable of doing so. All he could do do was pass and score a few goals. Could run neither fast nor far, couldn't tackle and couldn't carry a ball more than 5 yards. Good passer surrounded by great players....
@@itsinthetreesitscoming7431 how many honors has he won
@@gannonmanu09 hahahaha that just proves the point, moron....
'Good passer surrounded by great players'.
This isn't golf or tennis - Man Utd won the honours - Scholes was just a cog in a better machine.
@@itsinthetreesitscoming7431 he didn't carrie Liverpool they won as a team.
@@pauliyonas3576sorry - what language is that?
Sholes career at liverpool and gerrard vise versa to man utd .how would they get on ? Dont think scholes would get a metion personaly
The fact that Scholes was the first name on the team sheet in those United teams says it all.
@@broughy23 course he was
Yeah if scholes was a scouser and gerrard was a manc, we’d know scholes was a top player but we wouldnt be going round saying hes better than gerrard
Scholes literally gets better as each season passes, it’s hilarious
@@dozz87 id have literally told scholes and lampard to go and play for another country and built the england team round gerrard. Hed also have been the captain of england at about 19.
“I dont need you i’ll just have gary barry and some other biscan type player and have gerrard maurading forward setting everyone up and scoring goals”
Scholes is the type of player you appreciate if he plays for you team like firmino. A top top centre forward but you dont go round comparing him to thierry henry which is like what the scholes gerrard comparison is like.
Thanks for the seizure warning guys...
(Genuinely would advise against those graphics in future!)
Prime Owen over Rooney every day, that goal at 18 over Argentina was ridiculous for an 18 yr old on that stage, Rooney at that stage flattered to deceive
Rooney and Owen together at both 19 would have been the one ha. Need stop respecting experience and let the kids play
Is there a way of watching this without having a brain aneurysm?
damn. two golden boots at 18 and 19, just cannot be broken for a long long time. then ballon at 21. need a mercurial genius padowan to emerge. Ronney was not on his level at 18.
owen is better at chatting then punditry
Why dont you ask who is his GOAT!
Owen was excellent first on the scene.
how is it even a question 18 year old owen vs 18 year old rooney. i find that an insult to owen. owen was phenominal at 18 even teams like brazil knew who he was
Owen with Gerrard
All Michael Owens record will end up broken but it don’t change the fact that he was a Phenom , definitely the best live performance I have ever seen , I was in Munich in 01 when we beat Z Germans 5-1 and Owen got a Hatric, was unbelievable to see specially in Munich 😂
MOH sahal
Ridiculous comparison at any age - Rooney was a vastly superior all-round footballer, Owen a better goalscorer.
regardless he will always be a liverpool legend
1000% better than Rooney at 18
Of course he was better than Rooney! Rooney bever done well for England or big games for united like Owen did. Owen always turned up
God i poved watching him for lfc, we had a good team when hecplayed, just not as good as man utd at the time
Zidan chose Gerrard
The fact he said he if you can't beat them you joined them 😂
Epileptic transitions
Owen made me reconsider who's the better all round player but if I was to choose as a centre mid it has to be Scholesy
Does Jonjo shelvey play golf?