@@emit_etinifthe point is luxury beliefs are just that. Not necessarily productive for the middle/lower class but make the luxury class feel good about themselves.
@@emit_etinif His point is that we have disconnected elites that happily engage in luxury beliefs, that often becomes policy, to the detriment of everyone else. So now when you look at all these polls that show faith in institutions is rock bottom, you will know it's because they are led by a bunch of elites that are engaging in their luxury beliefs. It clarifies what is happening across the west.
@@LionLeon3the majority of millionaires themselves believe in. These luxury beliefs. All the Big Corporations have DEI Departments and showed "Solidarity" with BLM
I have been reading him on Substack for a long time. I think he understands humanity in a way that most don't. Luxury beliefs are absolutely real and destructive.
The guests have been good. This event included a diversity of topics that brought insight to reality based on logic. I appreciated the substance and willingness to call out bad ideas when present culture is unsafe to do so. This talk was another example of calling out people with bad morals who pretend they’re good.
My main critique of the Summit is I wish these segments were all longer. The Q&A between the hosts and the speakers are almost all very enlightening, especially given the different perspectives of the hosts. Would love to see these be an hour instead of 30 minutes.
Dear Besties: Please have Rob Henderson on your podcast for a longer discussion like you had Coleman Hughes re: TED trying to cancel him. It is connected and Henderson seems incredibly well-versed on this topic. 32+ mins was not enough especially for the Q&A. Thank you for your consideration.
Rob, incredibly impressive. Such an interesting and contrarian view. I love people who have dedicated real time to exploring an idea in depth. Phenomenal
Another recent example is forcing schools to remain closed well past the point it was clearly not providing any additional benefit / safety. Luxury belief where anyone advocating couldn’t even imagine the trade offs lower income or middle class parent(s) and particularly single parents had to make.
I can't remember how I first stumbled upon Rob Henderson over a year ago, but he made me realize how ridiculous my luxury beliefs often are. He's one of the most important -- and sane -- thinkers we have today.
@@whisper2284 lol. Where is the substance? Besides “buy my book” and a reference to a valid point made by another author, his points are just common sense masked in social science-/ business jargon. Since you disagree, and in case I missed it, can you clearly and concisely summarize the speakers point(s)??
Exactly the same lesson for the “London elites” where I live. People from London literally look down on those who live in Northern England. And people from that region decided to stick it to the establishment by voting for Brexit.
I love that Chamath is divorced and this is his guest. Instead of posturing about all the reason why his divorce was good, he dug deep into another perspective. He learned. And at no point did he mention himself.
I too jumped around foster families, barley got myself through undergrad then went on to be successful at work, got married had 2 kids live on a golf course… but now I’m getting divorced… and yes this was very triggering. And for me the take away is to maintain as much stability for the kids through this transition. Like living only a couple blocks apart. Making their needs the priority.
I would like Chamath to share how his view on his own relationships have been shaped by this kind of research and knowledge. Not just his marriages but his parents and extended family.
It’s been amazing watching Chamath’s view on his relationships change, when I first started listening to his talks the way his mannerisms changed when he spoke of his ex was telling that he was hurting and spoke of her in a curt way. And now today he speaks of her in such a loving way. So as triggering as this talk can be sometimes divorce is actually better because when we make the focus growth, love for ourselves partners, our children…everyone is better for it. And often staying in a broken relationship is more destructive. Anyway would really like to hear Chamath’s perspective.
One of the subtle things that has happened over the last few years, that no one has talked about, is the replacement of the word, wealthy with the word elite. They are not the same thing.
Yes. But Henderson has been quite ubiquitous online in often lengthier conversations: on Peterson, on Lean Out with Tara Henley, on The Unspeakable with Meghan Daum, and elsewhere...
“Luxury beliefs are ideas and opinions that confer status on the upper class while often inflicting costs on the lower classes.” I see a parallel with Nicholas Naseem Taleb’s “skin in the game” theory. Having a shared risk when taking a major decision-is necessary for fairness, commercial efficiency, and risk management. I do like this new framing though. Because it better describes the social reasons for people to take up causes that actually hurt society in the short or long term.
Gents kudos to you all, this discussion is such a rare gem. An important and sensitive topic discussed Intelligently, reasonably, and in a very civic manner I dont necessarily agree with some of the arguments, but I greatly respect the discussion Bravo
Kanye said this about the messaging in music today, and how music industry leaders heighten artists that promote disintegration of nuclear families and community
Very good presentation, it is also a fact that marketing teams create this luxury beliefs with a nuanced psychology. I didn't do any read up on Henderson but I know chamat is a libertarian and his views quite open. In this presentation, he touched upon how LBJ's policies created this out of wedlock births. But he failed to say how consecutive conservative govt. enacted policies that curtailed abortion and how it affected this number. If the policies would have allowed to get an abortion, the numbers would have been significantly low since the lowest class would have gotten the help they needed. The cultural elites pushing their ideology come from both sides, cancel culture was pioneered by the left, but efficiently executed by the right. What I see is that elites from both sides create something and push it to their advantage either it is from money or for leisure and the populism is defined by what sticks. Henderson is very impressive and good presenter.
Sorry Chamath you walked out on 3 kids and a wife and hitched up with a new one a few doors down, you have the means and luxury of doing, because in your own words you "wasn't happy" - You are precisely the type of person Rob Henderson is referring to. The person who has the luxury to exercising such optionality i.e. leaving your family when you feel unhappy, whilst being on stage discussing why exercising such optionality is bad for kids.
Had to check. Chamath divorced his wife and married a model half his age. Marriage is great for men, but degrading to women. (Lots of exceptions where the marriage partners are equal, share interests and respect each other, especially in younger couples. A lot are dtill like Chamath’s, where the wife is a thing, not a human being.)
We live in a cope society. Since our leaders have largely failed to give us a more fair and just environment, they throw their hands up in the air by essentially making us believe is all part of a moral strategy so we allow homeless to be unhoused by saying it's a lifestyle choice we should respect instead of providing them with affordable housing and healthcare, that's why I think the social justice movement is more reactionary than progressive since it fundamentally decrease people standards of living by creating strawmens that don"t hold up in reality
I enjoyed the presentation, but it went left when the panel began. A panel full of non-black people, the presentation said nothing about black people, and yet here we are.
This took some balls. He's talking about luxury beliefs to the same crowd that most likely adopt these mindset.
Exactly the audience that needs to hear it most
I was thinking the same thing.
Nah maybe a few but this ‘crowd’ is pretty dialed in (I hope?)
He literally opened my mind to my luxury beliefs.
he's telling a room full of millionaires that college students with weird ideas are the luxurious elite and they are lapping it up
Can someone tell me what his point was?
@@emit_etinifthe point is luxury beliefs are just that. Not necessarily productive for the middle/lower class but make the luxury class feel good about themselves.
@@emit_etinif His point is that we have disconnected elites that happily engage in luxury beliefs, that often becomes policy, to the detriment of everyone else. So now when you look at all these polls that show faith in institutions is rock bottom, you will know it's because they are led by a bunch of elites that are engaging in their luxury beliefs. It clarifies what is happening across the west.
@@LionLeon3the majority of millionaires themselves believe in. These luxury beliefs. All the Big Corporations have DEI Departments and showed "Solidarity" with BLM
I have been reading him on Substack for a long time. I think he understands humanity in a way that most don't. Luxury beliefs are absolutely real and destructive.
The guests have been good. This event included a diversity of topics that brought insight to reality based on logic. I appreciated the substance and willingness to call out bad ideas when present culture is unsafe to do so. This talk was another example of calling out people with bad morals who pretend they’re good.
Great analysis buddy ☠️🤣🤣
The hosts of the show are MORALLY BANKRUPT!
What are you talking about, dude?????
Yes, it's interesting to be open to other people's take on the world.
Every day's a school day.
@@andrewsaint6581 I'm open.... Openly OPPOSED
Love that you had Rob Henderson at the summit and loved his joke about it! His work is so important and necessary. Thank you!
The Luxury beliefs idea is simply great. Been following rob for years.
Agree. I would argue most of the listeners/hosts of All In Pod are elites and their belief system collectively constitutes a luxury belief.
My main critique of the Summit is I wish these segments were all longer. The Q&A between the hosts and the speakers are almost all very enlightening, especially given the different perspectives of the hosts. Would love to see these be an hour instead of 30 minutes.
Dear Besties: Please have Rob Henderson on your podcast for a longer discussion like you had Coleman Hughes re: TED trying to cancel him. It is connected and Henderson seems incredibly well-versed on this topic. 32+ mins was not enough especially for the Q&A. Thank you for your consideration.
This is the most important talk in the conference
Rob Henderson’s was great! He’s got a knack for bringing to light long buried and important ideas.
Rob, incredibly impressive. Such an interesting and contrarian view. I love people who have dedicated real time to exploring an idea in depth. Phenomenal
So excited to listen to this, Rob has great ideas
This is such an important talk. Thank you, Rob!
Exquisite next level perspective, providing data-validating impacts in our American class system.
Another recent example is forcing schools to remain closed well past the point it was clearly not providing any additional benefit / safety. Luxury belief where anyone advocating couldn’t even imagine the trade offs lower income or middle class parent(s) and particularly single parents had to make.
well said. I was a student then and the strain on family that lockdown put after first few months was crazy
I can't remember how I first stumbled upon Rob Henderson over a year ago, but he made me realize how ridiculous my luxury beliefs often are. He's one of the most important -- and sane -- thinkers we have today.
I agree.
First time hearing about or from him, totally worth my time.
Maybe on Jordan Peterson. At Larry’s that where I discovered him
Excellent presentation and discussion. Hope this information spreads quickly.
Absolutely brilliant conversation.
This is a great speech and discussion.
So true so good. Love you guys - change the world... please.
Love the way Rob speaks and keeps bringing up real and interesting facts. You actually learn something new by listening to him.
Good speech. I really enjoyed it. Just wish he blew his nose, before he started.
I wish so many more would hear this podcast than probably will.
This is the most important presentation and conversation of the All-In Summit 2023. The summary of Zeitgeist of XXI century liberal America.
If that is the case, then would you please tell us what the speakers point was??
@@emit_etinif if you do not know what the point is you lack listening comprehension skills and should work on that
@@emit_etinifYour luxury belief is showing.
@@whisper2284 lol. Where is the substance?
Besides “buy my book” and a reference to a valid point made by another author, his points are just common sense masked in social science-/ business jargon.
Since you disagree, and in case I missed it, can you clearly and concisely summarize the speakers point(s)??
@@TerminallyLogikal see my comments below
Rob is now officially IN with the IN crowd. 😊
Exactly the same lesson for the “London elites” where I live.
People from London literally look down on those who live in Northern England.
And people from that region decided to stick it to the establishment by voting for Brexit.
I love that Chamath is divorced and this is his guest. Instead of posturing about all the reason why his divorce was good, he dug deep into another perspective. He learned. And at no point did he mention himself.
I too jumped around foster families, barley got myself through undergrad then went on to be successful at work, got married had 2 kids live on a golf course… but now I’m getting divorced… and yes this was very triggering. And for me the take away is to maintain as much stability for the kids through this transition. Like living only a couple blocks apart. Making their needs the priority.
I would like Chamath to share how his view on his own relationships have been shaped by this kind of research and knowledge. Not just his marriages but his parents and extended family.
It’s been amazing watching Chamath’s view on his relationships change, when I first started listening to his talks the way his mannerisms changed when he spoke of his ex was telling that he was hurting and spoke of her in a curt way. And now today he speaks of her in such a loving way. So as triggering as this talk can be sometimes divorce is actually better because when we make the focus growth, love for ourselves partners, our children…everyone is better for it. And often staying in a broken relationship is more destructive. Anyway would really like to hear Chamath’s perspective.
Congratulations on your success out of a difficult background!
I think Chamath just got married again?
@@xletytejada ❤️
I agree and hope he gets a Full hearing on a all in podcast. This talk was Very powerful on so many levels.
One of the subtle things that has happened over the last few years, that no one has talked about, is the replacement of the word, wealthy with the word elite. They are not the same thing.
Elite means a power-holder. Wealth is the commonest form of power in America. Other types of power are authority and ideological.
@@timrichardson518no, elite implies superiority, an elite athlete is not a power holding athlete
Rob is an absolute king and we stan him 🫶
Thanks for Rob's work! Thanks for the presentation.
Great guests at this seminar - really liked this talk and Nicole Paulk- bravo👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👍🏽
Not gonna lie. I wish this was longer, this was really informative.
I feel many youtubers will cover this soon
Yes. But Henderson has been quite ubiquitous online in often lengthier conversations: on Peterson, on Lean Out with Tara Henley, on The Unspeakable with Meghan Daum, and elsewhere...
Thank you for the great and super refreshing speaker! I truly see how the luxury thinking shows up in Hamas support.
Gotta give these guys big props for just letting him speak. Well done all around!
This guy is brilliant
This was fantastic!
Excellent Rob Henderson!
“Luxury beliefs are ideas and opinions that confer status on the upper class while often inflicting costs on the lower classes.”
I see a parallel with Nicholas Naseem Taleb’s “skin in the game” theory. Having a shared risk when taking a major decision-is necessary for fairness, commercial efficiency, and risk management.
I do like this new framing though. Because it better describes the social reasons for people to take up causes that actually hurt society in the short or long term.
Rob Henderson is the rare individual who can cogently talk across class lines
Brilliant! Puts numbers on a lot of my thinking
Excellent presentation. I will be sharing this with people.
Only halfway through but this is GOLD!
Love this!
Rob is the man
Rob Henderson is brilliant.
God damn, give that guy a tissue
26:55-27:40 JCal explains what the pod is for 45 seconds and doesn't ask a question, thanks JCal
The irony here is that Chamath and Jason are full of luxury beliefs
100%, when you live on 1000 calories and 50 cents a day, who cares about some solar SPAC/grift.
I like this good man.
Believing in "Luxury Beliefs are Status Symbols" is the new status symbol.
At least he was at 04:07 aware of the cognitive dissonance on display even if he didn't address it any way
It’s not
Brilliant 👏
Really enjoying his sniffing!!!! Must've had an extra big key bump before the gig...
If it works, it works lol
I found that distracting too!
Sniffles!
good talk
Best talk of the summit. Best observation.
Gents kudos to you all, this discussion is such a rare gem. An important and sensitive topic discussed Intelligently, reasonably, and in a very civic manner
I dont necessarily agree with some of the arguments, but I greatly respect the discussion
Bravo
Been waiting for this one
Great session.
Bangers! 🎉
This is excellent!
It is almost SHOCKING to hear common sense validated by a measured researcher.
Get this man a tissue
That hand from Jason left hanging @ 32:04 needs a clutch 🤝
This needs more views. I’ve returned twice now.
Coming Apart
-Charles Murray
Great video!
Cocaine is a hell of a drug
Snif snif snif
Kanye said this about the messaging in music today, and how music industry leaders heighten artists that promote disintegration of nuclear families and community
Plenty of folks on the right have been saying this for decades
The point about framing can't be overstated. I'm a progressive! You're not AGAINST progress are you??
This was really great. Someone needs to hand him a tissue though.
So one give the guy a tissue!
I’m happy that he packaged all of this up for people… but none of this is surprising to me.
This is my heaven…. 🥰🥂🧟♀️
Feminism is the ultimate luxury belief
Latest FBI data shows a decline in crime rates - how to reconcile that?
My man is sniffing hard. That foster home left him with a Coke habit. lol
This man’s squeezing all he can out of this one idea.
No shit....
This guys on founder mode
Sociology for the win!
Being aware of your luxury beliefs must be a luxury belief, right? 😆
David Sax watching this talk 😂
This dude is on the Peruvian marching powder
Pure Gold!! 😉✨✅
Where can we get some ?
It’s time the pendulum swung back
Fantastic guest from Chamath, only miss here was someone should have given Jcal a top hat to wear
Very good presentation, it is also a fact that marketing teams create this luxury beliefs with a nuanced psychology. I didn't do any read up on Henderson but I know chamat is a libertarian and his views quite open. In this presentation, he touched upon how LBJ's policies created this out of wedlock births. But he failed to say how consecutive conservative govt. enacted policies that curtailed abortion and how it affected this number. If the policies would have allowed to get an abortion, the numbers would have been significantly low since the lowest class would have gotten the help they needed. The cultural elites pushing their ideology come from both sides, cancel culture was pioneered by the left, but efficiently executed by the right. What I see is that elites from both sides create something and push it to their advantage either it is from money or for leisure and the populism is defined by what sticks. Henderson is very impressive and good presenter.
Excellent talk but someone please give that man a tissue!
what was the book chamath mentioned in the beginning? couldnt find it
Coming Apart by Charles Murray
Thanks bro
Talk about having a point to make and just mining research for studies that support your preconceived notion.
26:30 Good idea, lets do that for YOU
Sorry Chamath you walked out on 3 kids and a wife and hitched up with a new one a few doors down, you have the means and luxury of doing, because in your own words you "wasn't happy" - You are precisely the type of person Rob Henderson is referring to. The person who has the luxury to exercising such optionality i.e. leaving your family when you feel unhappy, whilst being on stage discussing why exercising such optionality is bad for kids.
There's no point in staying in an artificial and unhappy marriage as it will ultimately damage your children psychologically much more than a divorce.
Unmarried doesn't mean a single-parent home. This could imply marriage isn't a desirable contract but still be partners and together in a single home
Marxist/Hegelian = Elitist
Makes sense. 🙏🏾❤️🇺🇸
Snif snif snif snif snif snif snif snif 🤔
This screams Thomas Sowell.
Waiting for the Botez sisters talk ❤
Sacks reminds me of Jon Lovitz
Rob sounds like he's related to the Casually Explained narrator.
Net zero - one hell of a luxury belief?
Amazing how these men can talk about marriage and relationships for so long without talking about women’s experiences.
Had to check. Chamath divorced his wife and married a model half his age. Marriage is great for men, but degrading to women. (Lots of exceptions where the marriage partners are equal, share interests and respect each other, especially in younger couples. A lot are dtill like Chamath’s, where the wife is a thing, not a human being.)
We live in a cope society. Since our leaders have largely failed to give us a more fair and just environment, they throw their hands up in the air by essentially making us believe is all part of a moral strategy so we allow homeless to be unhoused by saying it's a lifestyle choice we should respect instead of providing them with affordable housing and healthcare, that's why I think the social justice movement is more reactionary than progressive since it fundamentally decrease people standards of living by creating strawmens that don"t hold up in reality
I enjoyed the presentation, but it went left when the panel began. A panel full of non-black people, the presentation said nothing about black people, and yet here we are.