How Accurate are Dinosaur King's "SECRET" & "MOVE CARD" Dinosaurs?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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Dinosaur King's Secret Element consists of a handful of random species from all over the Dinosaur Family tree. Likewise, the species featured in the franchise's signature "Move Cards" also feature a great variety of species, some of which are not even Dinosaurs! How do these models from the mid-late 2000s hold up against modern science?
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All this information will undoubtedly be *extremely* helpful in (re)creating the Dinosaur King models, incorporating the latest paleontological discoveries. We aim to introduce many familiar, as well as some unfamiliar, dinosaurs from this franchise and cannot wait to share more of our designs and the fan-game itself! Thanks for the mention, Hodge! 👑
So after seeing his playlist what kinds of species from the series are you planning on changing or getting rid of also what new species are you adding to replace the previous ladder.
awesome, with that though i will ask, will spinosaurus still have it's colouration or will the design & colours change?
and if you follow the same type system, are there any secret dinosaurs you would like to add?
and best of luck with the project, fingers crossed it goes smoothly
There'd better be _Brachiosaurus_ .
@@dweebteambuilderjones7627 so odd that WASN'T in this game originally
Hi @@evodolka, thanks for your interest!
Spinosaurus will indeed get a complete makeover, model-wise and skin-wise. But, it's pattern and colors are still present in the skin for the Paleo-Accurate Spinosaurus, just a bit different than DK's. And we would very much like to add all the Secret dinosaurs and place them in their rightful elements.
The Eoraptor's special move, while nowhere near accurate to dinosaur evolution (it wasn't the ancestor of every single dinosaur), is still a very creative and fun move.
it's like an Eevee but a lot less fluffy
@@evodolka update on that eoraptor might have feathers just maybe anyway
@@Intrusion498
if it did, cool
if not, oh well still cool
@evodolka eoraptor I think is now thought to be a sauropodomorph so it might not have feathers like other sauropodomorphs like plateosaurus
@@Intrusion498 that it is, main reason he put it int he sauropodomorph part of the video
wait what? is Plateosaurus thought to be feathered now?
The Secret Dinosaurs are weird bunch, they seem to be ones that they couldn’t be placed into a specific element, ones that can be themed around other elements based on their attributes or name & ones that are important to palaeontology.
Pachycephalosaurus - Light
Therizinosaurus - Claws
Deinonychus - Ninja/Pack Hunting
Megalosaurus - Telekinesis/Gravity
Brontosaurus - Electricity/Thunder
Cryolophosaurus - Ice
They ran out of elements and decided to put everyone else into one special "element".
Pawpawsaurus - family love
Eoraptor - evolution
it's impressive how they never made a Darkness one
@@evodolka
I did a thing where I replaced some of the Dinosaurs with fictional ones from movies, the three Space Pirates ones with;
Vastatosaurus (Gigas)
Ferructus (Maximus)
Atecurisaurus (Armatus)
And Seth’s two Dinos with;
Indominus rex (Black T-rex)
Indoraptor (Cryolophosaurus)
The Indoraptor is a Secret Element Dino themed around Shadow/Darkness.
@@SmashBrosAssemble would be more interesting than the actual indoraptor
This anime is still a certified hood classic.
The opening theme goes hard
Hell yeah
@@chadgorosaurus4898hard asf
@chadgorosaurus4898 not as hard as dinosaur revolutions intro theme
I personally disliked it. The characters were often very annoying and for a supposedly educational show they got a LOT of things wrong (and not just about dinosaurs, they had an episode about princesses in INDIA).
I really appreciate how long these videos are. The longer the video, the more enjoyment I can get out of it.
14:09 I didn’t expect to see a size comparison to Mumei 😂, was that the only reference picture you could find?
Unfortunate a lot of these like Segnosaurus and Strutiomimus didn't make it into the TCG.
If Dinosaur King is ever brought back, here are some Dinosaurs I’d add to the roster;
Fire:
Tyrannotitan
Zhuchengtyrannus
Terataphoneus
Maip
Sauroniops
Qianzhousaurus
Water:
Ichthyovenator
Oxalaia
Vallibonavenatrix
Ceratosuchops
Vulcanodon
Rapetosaurus
Earth:
Miragaia
Anodontosaurus
Chunkingosaurus
Hesperosaurus
Zuul
Gargoyleosaurus
Lightning:
Nasutoceratops
Sinoceratops
Titanoceratops
Diabloceratops
Kosmoceratops
Terminocavus
Grass:
Mantellisaurus
Barsboldia
Hadrosaurus
Velafrons
Aquilarhinus
Gryposaurus
Wind:
Achillobator
Herrerasaurus
Australovenator
Yutyrannus
Skorpiovenator
Altispinax
Secret:
Deinocheirus
Gigantoraptor
Plateosaurus
Dimetrodon
Dimetrodon is not a dinosaur 🤣🤣🤣
Another great secret type would be Inostrancevia.
They all would be excellent additions; although I think Yutyrannus would fit much better and appropriately in the fire element than in the wind element, as it is considered typically a large theropod with 9 meters long.
Altispinax on the other hand, I reckon it would be a great candidate for the secret element instead, as its placement on the theropod tree has been very complicated.
@@chadgorosaurus4898
I did think about a Gorgonopsid like Inostrancevia, but Dimetrodon is more famous so I went with that.
@@nehuenladinius7743
Altispinax can’t really go in the Secret element as there’s nothing about it that fits that element, it doesn’t have any defining attribute to theme around, it’s not bizarre enough, it’s not very famous or important to palaeontology, the Wind element was really the only logical choice.
I did think about including Yutyrannus in Fire but it’s not a Tyrannosaurid Tyrannosaur so I placed it in the Wind.
I mean Futabasauris also appears in Fossil Fighters.
Anyway, I’m so happy that one of my favorite franchises got talked about. Absolutely loved this journey through Dinosaur King.
Futabasaurus is the secret Poster Child of Japanese dinosaur media. P sure the Elasmosaur in You are Tasty is also confirmed to be one.
@@dr.archaeopteryx5512 When it's the only elasmosaurid known from your country you tend to use it as much as you can.
@@dweebteambuilderjones7627 I'm a pleb from an entirely Elasmosaur-less country, can't relate
Good to see this franchise getting the love it deserves as of late. Now if only we can get it through to SEGA that we want a Dinosaur King comeback
I'd welcome it, it's clear the people who made it had a passion for paleontology, so it would be awesome to see them give it a 2nd shot
Hopefully with a tweaked battle system
Surprised you didn't mention that Troodon is now real again
it is?
i never heard this
Thats Based on A Single Tooth Fossil And That's Invalid Way Of Classifying A Species
@rabienjaimbumagat2718 I think they just gave the name to another dinosaur somewhat similar to the Droneasaurs that's also small and featured big eyes and I can't blame them for just reassigning that name cause it's so cool.
@@HorriblePaleoartistA little earlier this year, a paleontologist announced a new cast at the Museum of The Rockies(If I’m remembering correctly) that depicted Troodon, well also indicating that there my be a paper with this later down the line.
@@matthewcron8842 Until that paper is released, however, current scientific consensus is that Troodon is a dubious genus. We don't even know if the paper will advocate for the resurrection of Troodon at all
and so the end has come, was an amazing ride, loved these videos, great work on all of them
the secret element will always confuse me, it seems to have started as a "they don't fit the theme of the other dinosaurs" but then you get Megalosaurus, Dieinonychus & Brotosaurus sticking a wrench in the whole thing
and then there are ones like Cryolophosaurus who's abilities don't seem to be strangly vague like gravity, lasers or the physical manifestation of love itself, but Ice, which according tot he DS game at least is Wind + Water
i'm impressed they never did hybrid types really
Megalosaurus was the first named Dinosaur, incredibly important to the history of palaeontology, so it makes sense for Secret, the Gravity/Telekinesis ability is weird, I don’t get that.
Deinonychus, like Megalosaurus one of the most important Dinosaurs in palaeontology, & the theming makes sense, ninja’s/team work since Deinonychus is the pack hunting Dromaeosaur.
Brontosaurus, the most iconic Sauropod, its name means Thunder Lizard so no brainer it’s themed around lightning & thunder but obviously it can’t go in the lightning element because it’s not a Ceratopsian.
Cryolophosaurus, themed around Ice makes sense given its name & it lived in Antartica.
Therizinosaurus, I mean it’s claws, easy theming, plus it’s so weird looking as well, it can’t go into Fire.
Pachycephalosaurs, another weird looking Dino, theming it around Light is odd but I kind of get it, giving the dome head, it’s defining feature significance.
Eoraptor, one of the earliest know Dinosaurs, themed around evolution, makes sense.
Pawpawsaurus, theme around love/protection… I don’t get it?
@@SmashBrosAssemble
. true, but so is Iguanadon, and he's justa regular Grass type, i do like him being secret and gravity fits since the gravity of what came after Megalosaurus's discovery is INSANE
. i get the idea of pack hunting but my 1 gripe is that, that there is no evidence of pack hunting in Dromaeosaurs, it's more of a pop culture thing, which is fine still
. it having thunder i always loved felt more like raw electricity rather than the usual weapon forged out of lightning that the Ceratopsids go for
. checks out, plus even the move card that heals has an aurora effect, so it works
. apparently in an online game it WAS a fire, which makes things interesting, odds are though, i can see it like Velociraptor as a none elemental type, since Segnosaurus is also a none element summon
. my logic for light was since it's a Margocephalian and the Ceratopsians are LightNING, it makes sense to be light when thought of this way
. awesome idea, love it, i like how it only forms into the 2nd strongest of each type too, cute detail
. the reason is sicne the move card was it taking the bullet for you, so the type being family love is that they are all protecting each other now
@@evodolka
There is evidence of pack hunting in Dromaeosaurs. Deinonychus itself.
Good thing you mentioned Dinosaur Kingdom in the end, cuz I haven't heard much about them recently.
Agreed, was a nice little shout out, now I know they even exist
The blueish purple plesio uses godzilla's roar
I was wondering if you’d do both secret and move cards together but now I don’t have to wonder. It’s been a great run
Always a pleasure to see your videos. Love your work on this series.
I just wanted to point out that it seems like the Leaellynasaura model does possess a very thin coat of proto feathers like structure, it has the same texture as Deinonychus, Therizinosaurids and ornithomimosaurids and it clearly differs from the scaly face and feet. I believe they choose this option instead of depicting more detailed feathers for efficiency reasons.
Babe, wake up, HodgePodge made a new video!
. I can't I'm at work
- it's on secret dinosaurs
. *(bursts through window to watch it)*
It has been a fun run
Cryolophosaurus my stupidly overpowered, gap-crested beloved 😭💙
I wondered where you'd put the move cards.
Man, I'm very late to the vid, but I'm super excited whenever you upload. 🎉
The finale
The head crests of the 3 Ornithomimids may be ornamental feathers and the head crests of the 2 Therizinosaurs, based on the debut appearance of Therizinosaurus in the anime, appear be ornamental flesh.
I was waiting for this
Your voice is calming.
Hi I've seen all the videos on your channel of dinosaur king and the dinosaurs you have helped point out the accuracy and inaccuracy but i found that there is one dinosaur missing one of the move cards Dinosaur the dinosaur's name is piatnitzkysaurs i thought i would point that out to let you know. Again, love your work and big fan of dinosaur king.
Please do a video like this for ARK Survival Evolved/Ascended
It'd take a lot of parts, though
If possible, I could help with it
Hey how about you look through the dinosaurs and prehistoric creatures from Jurassic World Evolution 2
This is so interesting and cool.
I hope in the furture they'll make a live-action series of Dinosaur king. Maybe streaming on AppleTV+, Prime, Disney. You name it, it'll be amazing. 🤞🤞🤞
Did you use nanashi mumei for the human scale for apatosaurus? Wtf😂
Could you do something like this for the Dinosaurs in Jurassic World Evolution
Now when you google futuba, youl onli get wierd hentai😅
Really? Because I get a Persona 5 character, you might be missing the BA bit
Futabasaurus also sound like Godzilla
do you mean like voice wise or that he sounds like a Godzilla character name wise?
@@evodolka sound wise
@@landenriley8442 never noticed before
I wish the anime would make a season 3 but it will probably not come out
There is no reality where I will not use the name troodon.
Stenonychosaurus, latevenatrix, and pectinodon aren’t nearly as good of a name
I will die on this hill
Science doesn't care if you think the accurate names are dorky. If the cool name can't be applied to something that everyone can agree is clearly its own thing, then the cool name has to be dropped. If we let personal emotional biases get in the way of data analysis we'd never get anything done.
Is not qu-etz, is ketz
So what's your favorite species dinosaur
So the eoraptor we know is now outdated
Happy Jurassic June/Dinosaur Month everyone!
Futabasaurus actually appears in the game series fossil fighters its name there is Futabi , but much like the other creatures in that series is heavily stylized. Could be a cool series to check out some time.
Small note here: Ophthalmosaurus were not actually toothless as adults, the teeth were simply very small, and in most specimens, they simply fell out after decomposition
Well-preserved Ophthalmosaurus specimens and those of close relatives clearly show rows of pointed teeth in the jaws, which wouldve been a great benefit to hunting large fish and squid
In regards to Ophthalmosaurus teeth, a well preserved skull of O. icenicus and several related genera have shown that Ophthalmosaurus would have kept its teeth into adulthood.
On the Deinonychus, the skull on the card is actually the more accurate one, as the one you showed is actually an older, incomplete reconstruction.
LESGOOOO more dinosaur king content, this is gonna be a great start to the weekend!
This is absolute perfection well done hodge
Just a correction: anhanguera actually means something like "old devil" or "old devilish spirit" in the tupi language
That's pretty cool
well atleast it still has "spirit" on the name😅
This was a fun series of videos, it’d be fun to see you do this with other palaeo series, both fiction & documentaries.
All Dinosaurs secrets and move ones last one
Pawpawsaures in the anime was crazy it was basically a walking meat shield
I thought you wouldn't do this one, this series is fantastic 👏 one of my favorite childhood shows ♥ 🦕
After this series I think it would be fun to look at the fossil fighters designs given they share a similar space. Though I understand that it’d be hard to critique given the much more cartoony style of the games.
Eoraptor is so awesome. I love it
Nice! Didn’t think you would make another one
37:27 Not the only one, Futabasaurus is also in Fossil Fighters.
Great video as always! I was extremely excited for to discuss these guys the secret dinos seems to follow the theme of other being to weird or being some what Paleo to paelontologically significant like:
Cryo being a dinosaur from Antarctica
Megalo being the furst dinosaur
Eoraptor was believed too be the ancestor of dinosaurs
Ecc ecc
The only out lier is probably pawpawsaurus cause it's only there do being a complete skull (if dk was made today it would have been borealpelta or pinaco tbh)
But i did notice some stuff abd wanted to say
1. Cryp has two completely different models for dinosaur king the move card has a bigger head and scrawny body meanwhile the card dino is more uniform over all
2. We know what type most of the secrets would probably be via the code for some and for other we can tell from arcade anims (theri/segno are fire do to being big theropods, pachy is lighting cause it's a macrocephalian, cryo and eoraptor are wind do to they're arcade rig, megalo is fire do to it's arcade rig, armor brontokins is water so secret brontosaurus would follow suit ecc ecc)
3. 37:23 no, it isn't there literally a whole doreamon movie about the creature yeah.... But dk's probably the most popular in the west (it also uses carnivores 2/zoo tycoon t.rex sounds)
4. The ornithominds have mowkaws of feathers my guy.
Apart from that this series was a banger! Even as long time i really wanted see a series like this in a more different form but this is amazing aswell! (Also as i mentioned before i have access to all the arcade models so if you wanna check something...) ❤❤❤❤
Loved seeing Tupuxuara and Anhanguera in the anime series doing battle and later working together. It would've been even more awesome seeing the Gallimimus, Oviraptor and Quetzalcoatlus in action as well.
Therizinosaurus is still the GOAT
Hey, HodgePodge i know discussion videos aren’t really something you do ,but are you ever going to talk about the Walking With Revival series? Maybe some expectations or suggestions that you would want to see in a new series. Keep up the great work, absolutely cooking these videos!
About the Gallimimus in the Dinosaur King arcade game, it straight up uses a stock duck quack. But I suppose it fits since the model has a duck's bill, as despite meaning "Chicken Mimic" it'd be weird if it used a stock chicken clucking sound.
I was amazed it and 2 other Gallimimids were even in the game, never knew
@@evodolka I didn't either until I saw a Special Move showcase of the Special and Move card dinosaurs.
@@kylecollier7569 I must find this showcase then, the videos I used to watch for the move cards are all gone now sadly
I’m gonna miss this series.
At least I still have my retelling to look forward to
Also Brontikens deserved better. And I don’t meant because I’m like a huge Apatosaurus stan or something, but he deserved to be more of a final boss
agreed, was a real blast
Bro Idk about y’all but I’ve never heard of pawpawsaurus in my entire life
Me neither, lol. Glad to learn about it tho. I've been a dino nerd my whole life and yet there are still so many I need to learn about
@superxavxii421 yeah like I've learned a new dinosaur called dornraptor
I learned of it due to Dinosaur king
@@Intrusion498 Dornraptor is a really new one if I recall
@@evodolka Yep, this year. We now know what ate _Scelidosaurus_ .
Wow. I thought the wind dinosaurs video was long. Love this series
This series (both the original and your analysis) were great, excellent for dino nerds like me. I had no idea Microraptor was in the franchise!
Another thing I found is that there seems to have been plans for Muyelensaurus of all things to be added to the series, however I couldn't find any concept art. The only source I know of is the Dinosaur King Wiki page for the group Aeolosauridae.
They'd rather add that than _Brachiosaurus_ , why am I not surprised?
I just imagine making (well, someone else, not me) something much like Dinosaur King but being a stickler for fossil accuracy (like limb proportion and skull shape), making the more updated models into superpowered anime fighters to get them more mainstream acceptance. Then I wonder if the graphics engine on such a game could handle the feather textures of theropods and realize I have no idea how powerful game-sized graphics engines are today.
I'd play that, would love to see them make the (AS OF THIS COMMENT) accurate Spinosaurus in these games
As fore the engine, could just just stick with think kind of art style, less strain on the machine and probably ends up looking better than hyper realistic feathery coats
@@evodolka Better yet, make several variant models of unclear species like Spinosaurus (or individually diverse ceratopsids, etc.) just to cover all bases and in-game blame poor fossils on the wonky revivals. And feathers could probably just be limited to a thin clear layer coming off the arms with top and bottom wing patterns, the key is to look good at a distance.
@@BioniclesaurKing4t2 some variation would be cool really, even if it is just colour morphs it would be fun
I actually have a concept like that called March of the Dinosaurs, it's set in an all-girls college and the evil faction is a quartet of sorority sisters bent on using the creatures' powers for world domination, while the leader of the good faction believes that the creatures might hold the key to finding out what happened to her older sister. The creatures, meanwhile, are sapient but can't speak English and wish to be free from the devices that control them.
Ophthal also showes up In spiny's ultimate move with armor
Do a review on Walking With Monsters.
Love this series am binge whatching rn keep it up❤
Wow, the Archaeopteryx is absolutely beautiful. 🌈✨
14:12 love the Mumei for scale
We need a new edition of accurate arcade dinosaur king cards
lets go :)
Can you review all the dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals in Jurassic World Evolution 2.
Hey Hodge would you be interested in doing stuff like this for other paleo media like for something like Ark Survival evolved/Ascended?