I got my Road Runner on June 3. It is soooo easy to pull up, it wants to fly. My 15yo daughter is kiting it now, and loving it. Still no Manual though. The last I heard from Ozone which was last week, is they will publish it "soon".
Just ordered one to replace my 14m Fazer 3 for ground handling :) I really like the wider wind range of the Roadrunner and how it mimics standard glider characteristics better than a speed wing, I just wish it had trimmers as an added feature. Magnet brake toggles are a huge plus though
Thanks for letting us know Andrew, we've definitely found that they handle different to speed wings, would be nice to know how you find it once you get it
Hi. I just curious what is benefit from just ground handling wing? Maybe is it had better have a speedwing and be close to a max weight range of it ? Costs almost the same but with speedwing you can do more.
The ground handling wings are normally made stronger and smaller than a lot of regular or even mini wings. The idea is that you thrash around your ground handling wing while keeping your flying wing safe. Nothing wrong with using a regular wing :) !, its just in doing so you'll reduce its lifespan
True. If you're into speedflying that could be a good way to go. However I find that a wing like the rapidos does handle quite different from a normal freeflight wing and different to a groundhandling wind. But yes you can even get a second hand speed wing or mini wing and get the same benefits. The more you groundhandle it though the less airworthy it will be just due to wear and tear.
I have a Seed. How does it compare to a Seed? You asked that question briefly in the video but you didn't really go over it. I'm very curious how they compare. THANKS! :)
Yeah, i have the bad habit of talking over Gemma and getting sidetracked. Pretty similar in every way to be honest. Brake travel is a little longer but that's just an Ozone thing. It also feels like the wing sits taller (longer lines) and for me that makes it easier to do tricks
Probably nearly identical to BGD Seed in looks and handling? That’s what I got last fall since I knew the Groundhog was outdated just from looking at it. I’m waiting until you start your own paragliding school in Portugal and I’ll be there!
Great video, sold me on buying one cause I was sitting here inside watching YT paragliding while it's blowing 25 mph winds outside. I figured it will be worth buying if I can get dozens more ground handling days in before going to P2 training. How do you know if the controls need shortening or not? TIA.
talking about strong wind, how much can the roadrunner bare? can u go exercise with even more than 30-40 km/h wind? and is it an expensive wing? good video as always
The roadrunner is 14m2 and I'm 90kg, and I'd say more than 35km/h it gets a bit hairy. For sure it's possible to do 40km/h or a bit more but I'd pick a really big safe place to do it. If you are heavier than 90kg you can take more wind than this , if you're lighter you can take less.
They are usually smaller and made to practice ground handling, it is also easier to play with a small wing, than it is with a normal size one. Also you can take it out in stronger conditions, than normal wing. Plus these wings are usually more dynamic, you'll need to react quicker, which helps with your progression as when you'll go back to normal size it will feel like slow motion. These are just a few benefits of having a small wing to play with. Ohh, they are also way cheaper as they don't go through the certification process and are not made to fly with.
Flying Karlis Thanks so much for the explanation! That’s awesome! The school I’m signing up with has mentioned they have a lot of ground handling wings for use. Hopefully I can get my hands on one then!
@@gwenevere501 Just as a heads up, schools also call normal wings that are older as ground-handling wings. Basically they use them till they dead, you can't fly them anymore, but can practice on them while learning. Then again, you don't need a small wing to learn, it is just a nice tool to have and surely helps, but it is not essential :) Good luck in your flying progression!
@@AndreBandarra1 sure, i bought originally the ozone groundhog,on eBay,but the dealer sent me an email that ozone was not producing the groundhog anymore and gave me tje option of the ROADRUNNER, or refund ,i didnt think twice and said yes i want it, and then you posted your video , never paraglided just hangglided in los angeles ,this is all new for me but very happy thanks for your videos .
@@jorgeroman6723 oh cool, I didn't realize that. Well in that case you have a lot of groundhandling videos to watch if you want (look at playlists on the channel) and also there's our groundhandlingchallenge.com if you need inspiration :)
@@AndreBandarra1 yes thanks, im in the states in. New jersey , but my plan is too keep the roadrunner , and later on buy a speedwing , i just love it is my favorite , great views of Portugal by the way thanks.
At the moment, none. I haven't found a simple affordable and comfortable harness that I like for groundhandling. So they're all a bit of compromise. If you need something right now go for an old harness or a second hand hike and fly harness and do some modifications to the straps if needed. If you're not in a hurry I've heard that ozone might be bringing a harness out that fits the bill but I'll have to try it to believe it.
I acquired an inexpensive used Gin Bobcat speed flying seatless harness with removable one piece L-shaped foam padding (butt and back). I use it with a 14m BGD Seed ground handling wing and find it comfortable. It’s one size fits all and I’m 188 cm tall with 31” waist (tall and slender with long legs).
Thanks for the replies! I got an old woody Valley harness for next to nothing after putting an ad up on Facebook. Got the wing yesterday and had a two hour session. Great fun, and pleased that it works in light conditions as strong laminar wind is rare inland where I live
Pretty similar in every way to be honest. Brake travel is a little longer but that's just an Ozone thing. It also feels like the wing sits taller (longer lines) and for me that makes it easier to do tricks
Brilliant! Great vid for me as I’ve just got a 12mtr. Training wing (Dudek Marlin Mono) and found it’s a good teaching tool in fairly strong winds) but did not know how much you can do with them 👍 Many thanks you two I’ll be giving it a go!
What is the point of this wing? I mean who pays more than 1200 euros on a unflyable "cheap" wing? I would play with it of course but the money I would spend rather on a maybe 2 years old schooling wing or other equipment
Personally i agree with you. Lots of old used wings of all sizes can be picked up for $200 or less and are perfectly fine for just ground handling. Each to their own though.
To each his own for sure, but the fact that it’s a 14m allows you to kite it on days that are too windy to fly or kite a standard size wing, and unlike speed wings, it can still be easily kited in nil/low wind conditions. I think that’s a big plus.
The point of this wing is to improve your groundhandling and glider control. To have a dedicated small wing to do it you end up having less excuses for not groundhandling. You can get a school glider but it will be big and you will trash it, meaning that if it was a certified wing to fly, after a good season of groundhandling you wouldn't want to fly it anyway. I know because I have a wing like this that I bought for groundhandling for 50£ and never get it out. If you're groundhandling a full size wing you are better off doing it on your main flying wing. If you would rather get a speed wing instead because they are small, then fair enough, but still would you want to fly it after groundhandling it a lot? If something goes wrong on a speedwing in flight, it goes wrong fast, so I would like to keep equipment like that in top shape. So, to me the though process would be: do I want to improve my groundhandling? if yes: do I think a small dedicated wing would make me do it more? if yes: what can I afford? if price is an issue you can get a second or third hand speedwing, miniwing or groundhandling wing. They will all handle a little different, but the key is to get a 12-14m wing that you can just use for groundhandling and that you can put a good 50-100 hours on it in a season because it will be really easy to have on hand and use. This is obviously my opinion, so take it with a pinch of salt.
@@AndreBandarra1 thank you Andre, I didn't expect this extended answer. 😊 I need to point out that maybe not everyone is so lucky like we in our pg school where we can pick up a bunch of different (20+) gh wings from the school to use and learn. From small to big, from A to D class, from stoneold to modern wings everything. That might be a point more that I wouldn't like to buy one of these, missing a bit the diversity experienced in the last months, have been doomed to gh for 3 months due to winter and Corona lockdown. Still loved it 😍
Great review! How do you find this compares to the BDG Seed you have a video of from a couple years ago? Any major differences?
this is exactly what I needed to see. Thanks
Wow! What a great video. Good information. Great to learn with.
I've been waiting on a video on the new Roadrunner, and your's is excellent! Thank you!
My pleasure!
Looks like a fun wing to add to the groundhandling quiver. Thanks!
I got my Road Runner on June 3. It is soooo easy to pull up, it wants to fly. My 15yo daughter is kiting it now, and loving it. Still no Manual though. The last I heard from Ozone which was last week, is they will publish it "soon".
Just ordered one to replace my 14m Fazer 3 for ground handling :) I really like the wider wind range of the Roadrunner and how it mimics standard glider characteristics better than a speed wing, I just wish it had trimmers as an added feature. Magnet brake toggles are a huge plus though
Thanks for letting us know Andrew, we've definitely found that they handle different to speed wings, would be nice to know how you find it once you get it
Hi. I just curious what is benefit from just ground handling wing? Maybe is it had better have a speedwing and be close to a max weight range of it ? Costs almost the same but with speedwing you can do more.
The ground handling wings are normally made stronger and smaller than a lot of regular or even mini wings. The idea is that you thrash around your ground handling wing while keeping your flying wing safe. Nothing wrong with using a regular wing :) !, its just in doing so you'll reduce its lifespan
True. If you're into speedflying that could be a good way to go. However I find that a wing like the rapidos does handle quite different from a normal freeflight wing and different to a groundhandling wind. But yes you can even get a second hand speed wing or mini wing and get the same benefits. The more you groundhandle it though the less airworthy it will be just due to wear and tear.
I have a Seed. How does it compare to a Seed? You asked that question briefly in the video but you didn't really go over it. I'm very curious how they compare. THANKS! :)
Yeah, i have the bad habit of talking over Gemma and getting sidetracked. Pretty similar in every way to be honest. Brake travel is a little longer but that's just an Ozone thing. It also feels like the wing sits taller (longer lines) and for me that makes it easier to do tricks
What harness should I get? Savety with all the protection or a lightweigt ? Is there special Groundhandling harnesses yet?
Probably nearly identical to BGD Seed in looks and handling? That’s what I got last fall since I knew the Groundhog was outdated just from looking at it. I’m waiting until you start your own paragliding school in Portugal and I’ll be there!
Great video, sold me on buying one cause I was sitting here inside watching YT paragliding while it's blowing 25 mph winds outside. I figured it will be worth buying if I can get dozens more ground handling days in before going to P2 training. How do you know if the controls need shortening or not? TIA.
8:40 how do you do that 😄 ?
Great video as always Andre! By the way, which harness did you use in the last portion of the video?
talking about strong wind, how much can the roadrunner bare? can u go exercise with even more than 30-40 km/h wind?
and is it an expensive wing?
good video as always
The roadrunner is 14m2 and I'm 90kg, and I'd say more than 35km/h it gets a bit hairy. For sure it's possible to do 40km/h or a bit more but I'd pick a really big safe place to do it. If you are heavier than 90kg you can take more wind than this , if you're lighter you can take less.
Geez, I guess I need to get one or become friends with the folks at Ozone... 😂! Nice flick!
Hey! Loving your videos. Very new to the sport myself. What exactly makes a ground handle wing separate from a flying wing?
They are usually smaller and made to practice ground handling, it is also easier to play with a small wing, than it is with a normal size one. Also you can take it out in stronger conditions, than normal wing. Plus these wings are usually more dynamic, you'll need to react quicker, which helps with your progression as when you'll go back to normal size it will feel like slow motion. These are just a few benefits of having a small wing to play with. Ohh, they are also way cheaper as they don't go through the certification process and are not made to fly with.
Couldn't have put it better myself, thanks Karlis!
Flying Karlis Thanks so much for the explanation! That’s awesome! The school I’m signing up with has mentioned they have a lot of ground handling wings for use. Hopefully I can get my hands on one then!
@@gwenevere501 Just as a heads up, schools also call normal wings that are older as ground-handling wings. Basically they use them till they dead, you can't fly them anymore, but can practice on them while learning. Then again, you don't need a small wing to learn, it is just a nice tool to have and surely helps, but it is not essential :) Good luck in your flying progression!
Nice wing How much does it cost?
Not sure, you'd have to contact your importer www.flyozone.com/paragliders/find-a-dealer it varies a bit from country to country
First site I found on Google was selling it for $1,2000 USD.
Good video you two but is there a ball park figure on this wing as the inquiry is just too deep to find out how much they are. TIA
900-1200 USD retail (standard flying wings cost $3000-4000)
yay! where is this nice beach site?
Near Nazare, Portugal
Great video! Did Gemma prefer the RoadRunner to the Seed? Maybe I missed it. Thanks.
We got lost on that part of the “interview” sorry, but basically we both think it’s quite similar. So with either one you can’t go wrong
I just literally bought one today, im so 😁
Cool, let us know what you think of it when you get it
@@AndreBandarra1 sure, i bought originally the ozone groundhog,on eBay,but the dealer sent me an email that ozone was not producing the groundhog anymore and gave me tje option of the ROADRUNNER, or refund ,i didnt think twice and said yes i want it, and then you posted your video , never paraglided just hangglided in los angeles ,this is all new for me but very happy thanks for your videos .
@@jorgeroman6723 oh cool, I didn't realize that. Well in that case you have a lot of groundhandling videos to watch if you want (look at playlists on the channel) and also there's our groundhandlingchallenge.com if you need inspiration :)
@@AndreBandarra1 yes thanks, im in the states in. New jersey , but my plan is too keep the roadrunner , and later on buy a speedwing , i just love it is my favorite , great views of Portugal by the way thanks.
My road runner just got here today ,havent opened it yet but super 😊
I’m thinking of getting one of these. What harness would you recommend for ground handling?
At the moment, none. I haven't found a simple affordable and comfortable harness that I like for groundhandling. So they're all a bit of compromise. If you need something right now go for an old harness or a second hand hike and fly harness and do some modifications to the straps if needed. If you're not in a hurry I've heard that ozone might be bringing a harness out that fits the bill but I'll have to try it to believe it.
I acquired an inexpensive used Gin Bobcat speed flying seatless harness with removable one piece L-shaped foam padding (butt and back). I use it with a 14m BGD Seed ground handling wing and find it comfortable. It’s one size fits all and I’m 188 cm tall with 31” waist (tall and slender with long legs).
Thanks for the replies! I got an old woody Valley harness for next to nothing after putting an ad up on Facebook. Got the wing yesterday and had a two hour session. Great fun, and pleased that it works in light conditions as strong laminar wind is rare inland where I live
- Ozone: DO NOT FLY! - Gemma: Hold my beer ... ahah
ahahah, it was a little one
Helm beautiful
Great video as always :) How does it compare to the Seed?
Pretty similar in every way to be honest. Brake travel is a little longer but that's just an Ozone thing. It also feels like the wing sits taller (longer lines) and for me that makes it easier to do tricks
Andre Bandarra Cool. You reckon you’ll soar with the RoadRunner as well?
Not sure, even with the seed I only did it a couple of times and after like 100hours or so of groundhandling, so not on my priority list :)
Hello Sir, which kind of para glider is suitable for a beginner like me......?
The best person to ask is an instructor at a qualified school
I almost bought one of these a few weeks ago
it's a nice wing!
Whens Ozone going to come out with the Coyote? 🙄😊
Thanks again Gemma and Andre!
What’s the coyote?
@@AndreBandarra1 I'm just being silly the cartoon...en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wile_E._Coyote_and_the_Road_Runner
Ahahah of course! Don’t know how I didn’t catch that! But joking aside, sounds like a great name for a wing!
It really does!
👍👍👍
Brilliant! Great vid for me as I’ve just got a 12mtr. Training wing (Dudek Marlin Mono) and found it’s a good teaching tool in fairly strong winds)
but did not know how much you can do with them 👍 Many thanks you two I’ll be giving it a go!
If you need inspiration try these :) www.groundhandlingchallenge.com/
What is the point of this wing? I mean who pays more than 1200 euros on a unflyable "cheap" wing? I would play with it of course but the money I would spend rather on a maybe 2 years old schooling wing or other equipment
Personally i agree with you. Lots of old used wings of all sizes can be picked up for $200 or less and are perfectly fine for just ground handling. Each to their own though.
To each his own for sure, but the fact that it’s a 14m allows you to kite it on days that are too windy to fly or kite a standard size wing, and unlike speed wings, it can still be easily kited in nil/low wind conditions. I think that’s a big plus.
The point of this wing is to improve your groundhandling and glider control. To have a dedicated small wing to do it you end up having less excuses for not groundhandling. You can get a school glider but it will be big and you will trash it, meaning that if it was a certified wing to fly, after a good season of groundhandling you wouldn't want to fly it anyway. I know because I have a wing like this that I bought for groundhandling for 50£ and never get it out. If you're groundhandling a full size wing you are better off doing it on your main flying wing. If you would rather get a speed wing instead because they are small, then fair enough, but still would you want to fly it after groundhandling it a lot? If something goes wrong on a speedwing in flight, it goes wrong fast, so I would like to keep equipment like that in top shape. So, to me the though process would be: do I want to improve my groundhandling? if yes: do I think a small dedicated wing would make me do it more? if yes: what can I afford? if price is an issue you can get a second or third hand speedwing, miniwing or groundhandling wing. They will all handle a little different, but the key is to get a 12-14m wing that you can just use for groundhandling and that you can put a good 50-100 hours on it in a season because it will be really easy to have on hand and use. This is obviously my opinion, so take it with a pinch of salt.
@@AndreBandarra1 thank you Andre, I didn't expect this extended answer. 😊 I need to point out that maybe not everyone is so lucky like we in our pg school where we can pick up a bunch of different (20+) gh wings from the school to use and learn. From small to big, from A to D class, from stoneold to modern wings everything. That might be a point more that I wouldn't like to buy one of these, missing a bit the diversity experienced in the last months, have been doomed to gh for 3 months due to winter and Corona lockdown.
Still loved it 😍
BTW if someone has an old gin boomerang8 please contact me... The gh bitch... My favorite 😎
Looks like a bit of a slog...should be great for beginners but as an experienced pilot I’d prefer something a bit more “active” to ground handle