PODCAST: The BEST Tennis Strings for the MOST Spin Generation Revealed! (We've tried them all!)
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Are you looking to add the most bite and spin to your shots?! Looking for the best string for the MOST amount of spin?! We've got you covered! Jaye, Troy and Michelle talk all about what makes a string spin friendly and what their absolute favorite strings are when it comes to getting the most rotations on the ball!
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Good morning Troy and Michele. Gamma Glide 16:53 to Troy's coffee cup raise at @17:44 🤣🤣🤣... Funny timing I just put that Glide in a VC98 for a client who loves it. He is the only client who uses it, and Gamma only makes it in mini-reels and half packs. I wish it would die like Hollow Core and Hollow Core Pro.
I use confidential 1.15 @ 24kg in the main with the tour bite 1.10 @20kg in the cross
The lower tension and the thinner cross gives the main more ability to move and snap back. And i get good control. And i love the pocketing of the confidential more than other poly strings.
I have tried the square strings in the main on a round one in the cross, but the cross was a 0.05 thicker than the main and to me it decreases the spin and the directional control was lower.
The last change i made was having a bigger difference in tension between main and cross (cross lower) which really increased spin as well as widens the sweet spot as well.
I am a bit confused with this measure spin potential. It does not seem to align with the marks and comments you give for spin in reviews. E.g. technifibre triax multifilament has a higher spin potential 5.8 than e.g hyper g soft 5.2 however reading the reviews it seems the players feel the hyper g soft gives more spin. How can this be? Also wilson revolve has a spin potential around 7 and wilson revolve spin has spin potential around 5 and reviewers seem to feel that revolve spin has as much if not more spin.
I agree that the quality of the strings do not accurately coincide with the prices to an extent. Do you guys know when that light blue solinco string called confidential 3.0 (i think) comes out? Thanks.
Not sure about a string like that. Troy, TW
Excellent podcast. The main issue for me is comfort. A full bed of poly is too much for my arm. Feels great until it becomes too painful. I need a hybrid these days. Poly mains and multi crosses. Doesn't make much difference what that poly or multi is. Tension at 50lbs is max.
i give you my combo, Tour Bite soft mains with Head Sonic Pro (very arm friendly this Head string) crosses at medium tension around 48/50 pounds or 22/23kg max for this. below you can if you want. it feels very nice. a little extra oompf in power and feeling with the Sonic Pro, control remains the same. for durability use some silicon butter or spray to lubricate your strings before stringing the racket. don't need tons of it. better snap back from the mains. they slide well.
Great podcast as ever guys, thank you.
I’ve been using a hybrid setup that I wanted to share: Solinco Tour Bite Soft in the mains and Solinco Confidential in the crosses (both 1.15mm). I’d be interested in anyone else’s experience with this combo
I tried it. It’s good
Aaaaaah, sounds good! A friend had solinco tour bite soft 17g and a 17g synthetic on the cross last week. I tried it and liked the feel, spin, pocketing and control. And, it had plenty of punch baseline rallies.
Yes, all 3 of you make great points on using similar strings for less financial strain.
Piggybacking on the cost&comfort conscious people, I have great success with poly hybrids Luxilon Element, Vibe and 4G on mains and slippery coated inexpensive synthetic strings on the crosses.
A poly Head Sonic Pro Edge and a good synthetic also works well as a hybrid.
A good deal poly was Prince XT for feel and control with a synthetic on the cross or a Head multifiber as a comfort cross string.
Hi guys. Quick question for Troy 😀 what shoes 👟 do you recommend for cushion and stability? I am a heavy guy who moves really good with power sprints. I have a pair of Vapor Cage 4 which do the job and want for get a second pair that will offer just a little bit more speed, sooooo what about the Turbo? Thx ( sorry for the long question)
When it comes to a plush feel, and high level comfort, the GP Turbo is great. Maybe a slight step down in stability, as the Vapor Cage 4 is ultra stable, and durable. As far as speed goes, the GP Turbo is actually a bit heavier on the scale, but maybe feels a bit speedier initially, as they feel a bit less rigid during the break-in period. Another shoe, if you are considering ones outside of Nike, is the KSwiss Hypercourt Supreme, as it offers a lot of comfort, feels lightweight, and has pretty good support, and stability. Not quite as stable as the Vapor Cage 4, but other than the Asics Gel Resolution 8, and adidas Barricade 18, there aren't any that really compete in stability. I would also consider the Asics Court FF2, and Gel Resolution 8. Troy, TW
@@tenniswarehouse thank you for your time to answer me. I’ve went with FF2 (already have a pair of Nike VC 4). Big fan of yours Troy, love your passion and knowledge for the science behind it 😃 .
Turbo GP is crazy good, head has shoes available in most sizes but gotta go up a half size. I have the revolt 4 and revolt evo 2. I also mainly play in gel resolution 8 because wide is few and far between. I really want to try the Lav2 from NB and sole court boost bushes!
Coming back to the game after 17 years was a little overwhelming. Nothing I used to play with is popular anymore. I was a heavy string breaker in Jr's and university. My racquets used to be strung at 75 with Kevlar and synthetic. I settled in with the cx200 tour, I like the thin beams. I went with solinco confidential in 17g. at 65lbs. I was surprised at how much feel was there. The strings are really slick but i may try a hybrid with some tnt or live wire. They are the only thing I remember liking.
confidential mains and Head Sonic Pro crosses. but you need to step back on tension because new strings don't need to be that high. anything below 40 or above 60 is useless. if you can lubricate your strings with a bit of silicon in butter or spray before stringing the racket. clean the excess at the end with a microfiber rag. it will increase the durability by a lot. better snap back from the mains too.
@@jiboo6850 I got plenty of strings fortunately just trying to see what I like right now. I love the confidential, and head Lynx tour is also sweet in the 17g as well. I hated solinco tour bite @50lbs. Ball was just flying in radical pro. Loved it on serve but I couldn't hit the baseline. It's the first string I've tried that made my arm hurt. Confidential and Lynx pro have been in a stalemate for months now. Next 3 to get strung
All 2019 radical pros at 340 grams built
Head Spin2
Solinco Hyper G soft
Solinco Revolution
I may actually hybrid the revolution and hyperg soft but at 18g I'm not sure which to use in the main. Leaning towards Rev (M)
HG (C)
@@ScottDreyfus revolution is super hard. really stiff string. quite slow.
Love a poly poly hybrid. Ive been using Toroline caviar in the mains and 4g rough for crosses just wonderful
What tensions man?
@@teo59 55lbs for both in my 360+ prestige pros and 58 toroline and 55 4gr in my ig radical pros.
What is expected on a 4g rough on the mains?
Michelle: Maybe you can try to emulate your favorite playtester
Me with my TF40 + leather grip: I wonder who my favorite playtester is...such a tough choice...
I believe it has being thoroughly proven that the main Solinco strings (HG,Confidential, and TB) are actually five sided, whereas V-square and Ultra Cable are in fact four. If you want to try the sharpest 4 sided poly, take a look at Grapplesnake's game changer. It's literally so sharp and squared that it frays as you are stinging the crosses!
Proven where, i have tour bite and it is four sided
@@LarzB type this in the search for youtube: A close look at Tour Bite
a member of TT made a video counting the sides, and it seems the same is for Hyper G and Confidential
@@jugheadfla tennis warehouse calls it a square shaped poly. Since when a square has 5 sides?
@@LarzB Who cares what TW says it is , they are just reverberating what the manufacturer has shared with them. I performed the same test on those strings as well and confirmed they have 5 sides. In the grand scheme it doesn't matter, those strings are good strings, but saying they are square is not accurate.
@@jugheadfla the amount of sources saying square and for sides is much higher than the 1 source on tw forum and you. Next time i cut out my strings I'll check it myself
But yeah they are good strings, but i finished my reel and I'm switching to msv twisted string. Little bit more bite, little bit more dwell time. But maybe a 20% shorter lifetime but only half the price.
Hey i have a question.
What do you recommend me more?
I search for Tension Maintenance and Spin
Hyper G or Rpm blast rough
Nice and informative video
Hyper-G is definitely the better choice when it comes to tension maintenance out of the two, and might even consider Solinco Confidential as well. Troy, TW
Fantastic live stream!
Do you have any recommendations for spin friendly but stiff / firm feeling strings? Something similar to Solinco Tour Bite?
Tourna Big Hitter Silver 7 Tour, and Luxilon 4G Rough are good choices. Troy, TW
Hi, guys! Whats your thoughts about RPM Power? I didn't find a video review or the string on TWU lab. I'm curious about the Spin ratio from the lab. Cheers!
We have sort of mixed thoughts about it, however the positive characteristics of the string is that it is fairly comfortable for a poly, and provides a more lively feel. Some of our playtesters really enjoy that response and feel, and others were left wanting more control, and a firmer/crisper feel. One thing that we noticed is that the main strings were moving a bit more than usual for a poly, and slightly getting stuck out of alignment. Just as a reference, some of our favorite polys are Solinco Hyper-G, Confidential, Head Lynx Tour, Volkl Cyclone. Troy, TW
@@tenniswarehouse Thank you, Troy! So, I tried the Lynx tour and liked a lot, I felt the Lynx Tour stucking out of alignment a little too. I suposed to be the same as RPM Power. Comparing both, the level of comfort is similar?
Pro Kennex IQ Hexa is a solid poly string in the same league than RPM blast or TF black code. budget friendly too.
IQ Hexa is too soft
@@nakmuay5034 not really. at worse just raise the tension and it's ok. it's closer to RPM power or Confidential in hardness. i wouldn't call that "too soft". like a RPM team or Hyper G soft can be.
1.23 is too soft... 1.28 is OK... solinco strings have better spin and durability
@@nakmuay5034 well let's agree to disagree.
Question for Troy - my 14 year old plays Babolat Aero 285gram frame and we string it 50pounds Alu Rough 16L throughout - he breaks strings every 2nd day or about 8 hours of playing. Can we substitute the crosses with something different to get a bit more hours out of it ?
I see, sounds like he's a big hitter, and/or likely generates lots of topspin. ALU Rough is a bit softer, and more elastic than the regular ALU Power, so maybe consider the regular ALU Power in the 16 gauge (130). Besides that, you could also consider strings like a Prince Tour XP 16 or 15L, Solinco Confidential 16, Luxilon Big Banger Original 16, Kirschbaum Pro Line X 16. There are a lot of options for 16 gauge polys, or even some 15L gauge. Troy, TW
If he creates already so much spin in the aero, which has a very open setting pattern, maybe demo a racket with a denser a pattern, that will also decrease string friction. And it will give him more control. As it seems that he doesn't need the additional spin potential of the aero of he breaks them already so quickly at that age.
Maybe in stead of trying to get more out of that fairly expensive string, use a cheaper string and string the Rackets yourself. Like msv focus hex (which i use and plays also very well). And of course the thickest gage possible.
Differences between the head prestige mp and the vcore pro 97 hd?
Both offer a lot of control, feel, and precision. The 97HD has a bit more plow through, and maybe just a bit more spin friendly. The 360+ Prestige MP feels slightly more maneuverable, and maybe just a slight lower launch angle. Troy, TW
I thought that Weiss Cannon Black 5 Edge might have made the list for spin potential. TW rated it 90 for spin potential.
That is a definitely a spin friendly option, but wasn't quite at the top of the charts in our TW university data. That said, on court experience doesn't always match up with the lab data. Troy, TW
Talking hybrids what gelps more with friction or slide between srrings multifilaments or sin gut? Thanks
I ment to say snap back.
It will come down to the surface treatment and which is slicker. A good option for a multi with good snap back is Tecnifibre Multifeel and it is also priced very well. I've found that string to still snap back well even when it is frayed and getting close to finally breaking. Hope that helps. Cheers, Chris, TW
@@tenniswarehouse thanks I'll give it a try🍻
@@tenniswarehouse i have a question about leather grips. I know they add weight to the raquet. But, does it make the raquet harder to swing because of the extra weight or does it make it feel lighter because the weight is in the handle? Also does it chance the stability of the raquet? Thanks.
I play dobles serv and volley. So need the maneuverability. Play with ezone 98 2020.
GUT/SLICK poly best spin set up.
I want to hear more about those sh*t triangle polys. Jk. Great video guys.
do multis have more elasticity and snapback then poly? does poly have more snapback cause of their slick coating?
Try to answer this based on my experience only. Poly is better than multis in elasticity and snapback. If you pull 1 string of poly in your racquet, it'd want to return to its initial position. This doesn't really happen to multis.
Slick coating of poly surely helps for the snapback.
We usually find more elasticity with multis, in the sense that they stretch or pocket the ball more, and create more energy return. Snap-back is better with polys, due to the slick coating, or surface. Troy, TW
@@tenniswarehouse so would a textured multi in mains with round soft poly in crosses be best for a TE sufferer wanting spin? Any string recommendations???
@@mteca5093, definitely worth a try. I think I may have recommended some of these before to you, but you could try Gosen AK Pro CX, AK Control, Tecnifibre Multifeel, Head Velocity MLT, Gamma Ocho TNT. That said, I know you are searching for a comfortable, spin string, but it is hard to match the spin potential, and bite from a full poly, but full poly is not great for comfort, typically speaking. Which racquet are you using again? Maybe a softer racquet is the way to go. Troy, TW
@@tenniswarehouse yes you have and thanks.. i bought velocity mlt from you guys cause of your recommendation(great slick multi but not good as a main string for spin but great as a cross) i also bough ultra cable and 4S and used it in the mains but im almost 50 now and i can feel elbow trouble coming when i use a poly mains. if they did the MLT as a square multi i think they would take over the string world... ANY MULTI with a square shape???? im useing DR98
snap back and dwell time?
I sent in my answer! :)
Full natural gut produces max spin
hahahahaha!
nope.