Sadly those days are long gone, a product of the pandemic era. Not just the individual entries but the semi daily vod reviews going over up and comers like donk, shiro, axile. I'm just happy I got to enjoy it while it lasted, used to be my go to videos to watch while eating dinner in uni during COVID.
Broky was not good for well over half of the year and nothing you say could convince me he is a top 20 player consistency is way more important than highs
This year was kind of wierd because you had people like iM who sucked the first half but were incredible the second, and people like broky who were great the first half but fell off of a cliff the second.
he was a top 5 player in the first half of the year. had a big drop off but had a elite fall final and was decent in major playoffs of shanghai. people like xertion who legit have a negative rating vs top 5 teams should not be ranked 11th
Ropz is the sole reason why Faze is Faze. Broky is long gone, Karrigan appears here and there. Frozen is awesome but still needs time. Rain is godlike just like ropz
this is why launders is the best cs2 analyst. dude calls it how it is without the compensating word salad dancing. straight shooter to the point. good shit dude
Maybe I'm just hate maxing right now, but broky on this list is kinda wild. I actually don't know in what way you could have the take that broky is better than someone like w0nderful. Not even arguing that w0nderful deserves a spot in the top 20, just that if w0nderful isn't there, broky shouldn't even be close. Statically W0nderful was better vs top 10, 20, or even just all. Higher impact and rating every time. Tournament results wise w0nderful was better as well, even with fazes strong first half. I'd even say the supporting cast around broky is near equal to w0nderful, if not on paper better (even tho im sure b1t and JL will be in the top 10). I just feel like broky is overrated. He hits a few clips here and there, sure, but misses easy shots far more than the S tier (and most A tier) awpers would. Put simply I feels like broky is someone who seems to struggle to consistently find impact with the most impactful role in the game. If faze are looking towards a rebuild after losing ropz, and have in mind to cut anyone else, the first name on the chopping block HAS to be broky in my opinion. rain and karrigan at least are less of a detriment even when they don't perform individually.
imo your having recenty bias from the major and the couple last months, for most of the year him and frozen were the only reason faze was getting somewhere. He has 4 evps this year and had a 1.09 rating overall only behind frozen(on faze). If he could always play at his peaks he would easily be a top 3 awper unfortunately hes inconsistent but theres literally nobody who could replace/fit his roll right now
ropz in 14th above broky and frozen feels like crazy recency bias, he was absolutely awful in the 1st half of the year, only good in the last few events
Ropz was top 5-8 earlier this year but fell off mid year so that's justified. Broky and frozen shouldn't be here imo, especially broky. He played mid-awful this year ngl
@@launders he dropped a stinker at copenhagen though, kinda like the reverse of broky and frozen (who both did well in copenhagen but not so much in shanghai). In that case where all 3 of them had 1 good major and 1 bad major, surely ropz is below frozen and broky, especially as i do feel like ropz is a fairly passive player
@@mum-your how? until pro league 20 ropz didnt have a single big event rating above 1.1 which is not indicative of a top 15 player. I think frozen deserves top 20 for sure, only 3 bad events throughout the whole year (even though 1 of them was shanghai, ropz also did crap at copenhagen). It's true broky had some absolute stinkers too, but given that he was mvp in the only big event that they won, I think he deserves top 20, i feel like his recent performances overshadows his importance near the start of the year
@@itsfutureda all 4 very close. Xantares rating 1.16 vs b1t 1.12. flameZ has IEM Cologne and PGL Major EVPs; Broky has PGL Major and IEM Katowice EVPs, b1t has only Cologne EVP of 4 super Elite Events.
only names here not on my impromptu list are: iM, flamez and Brokey. flamez I can accept, iM less so but yes, but i have no idea how Brokey made it using this metric. My intuition remembers him as a bot that’d go the first 8 rounds with ~1 kill too often to be in top 20
Yea i just don’t get how you can overlook how poor he was for such a long period, as well as mediocre at Copenhagen. This major was really his only good event this year and he was otherwise underwhelming
this format is way better man but xanti at 15 is crazy! if consistency and real shit starts at 11, he should at least be 12. Love from Ankara your swag is off the charts
@@wangmingchu1379 no? he missed multiple big events (katowice, copenhagen major, spring final), missed playoffs in many others (rio, world final, cologne, dallas) and didnt go far in any tournament. He won nothing, had no evps or mvps, had pedestrian ratings against top opposition and on top of that, fell off massively in terms of individual form as a result of taking up the igl mantle which means for 6 months of the year, he was quite bad. Players like Nertz, w0nderful have much stronger overall cases for a top 20 shout.
I know this video is totally about something different,but i would love to know if you watched the coffeezilla video about cs skin gambling sites,and what's your opinion about it all?? Would love to know what you think brother! Happy holidays everyone 😊
NAF gonna miss top 20 again because of poor team performance, one of the most consistent great players in the scene no matter how well his team is doing
I'm so sad listening to the ropz part. Fell to my knees in the middle of Walmart 😭
I assume you're saving aliStair for top 10
Lol
alistair more like allstar am I right
Alistair gonna make a wildcard entry as #0 of 2024 🗿
@@cally8934 bro ,I thought you were joking, u know that he was benched,right?
He’s saving him for top 5 actually
Just saw a guy fall to his knees in the middle of walmart
lol you're right below them
"I got that reference" - GIF
the ropz segment was born and immediately aged 500 years and disintegrated into dust
Exactly my thoughts :D
merry Christmas u guys 😇
also to you my king❤
merry Christmas launders
you too businessman Lau😘
Merry Christmas king!
merry Christmas everyone ❤
-makes top 20 list
-is canadian
-immediately nominates 2 na players
-doesn't refuse to elaborate
You think he is Canadian? lol nice satire
@@mdjd.8893unwarranted, I am from his city and I would gladly consider him Canadian because he is Canadian, let’s not do this
@@mdjd.8893he is though…..
glad you have shown the respect for the entire FlyQuest Roster as I will be assuming that they will all be in the top 5.
aleksib in top 10 HOLY POGGERS
Easily, goat
goat will be top 5 in coach lau's list
i’ve been clawing at my walls waiting for this thank you so much my glorious king
I should've done my rmr predictions like urs
also broky didn't make the eye test? nawww
yo whats up Garmour knew you were a launders fan with all that racism support in your vids
you make nice videos
what up, cuh?🤙
I miss the individual videos for each entry
Sadly those days are long gone, a product of the pandemic era. Not just the individual entries but the semi daily vod reviews going over up and comers like donk, shiro, axile. I'm just happy I got to enjoy it while it lasted, used to be my go to videos to watch while eating dinner in uni during COVID.
I don’t really care about G2 but I really want to see Malbs come into his own in 2025. He’s such an enjoyable player to watch
Broky was not good for well over half of the year and nothing you say could convince me he is a top 20 player consistency is way more important than highs
This year was kind of wierd because you had people like iM who sucked the first half but were incredible the second, and people like broky who were great the first half but fell off of a cliff the second.
he was a top 5 player in the first half of the year. had a big drop off but had a elite fall final and was decent in major playoffs of shanghai. people like xertion who legit have a negative rating vs top 5 teams should not be ranked 11th
He has like 7 or 9 hltv EVPs, i think nobody had more evps throughout the year.
Broky actually has an MVP. How many players have that?
glad to see disco doplan getting the recognition he deserves
ropz being above frozen and broky is peak recency bias
Fr, he wouldn’t even be on this list without Shanghai
You not remembering the start of the year is peak recency bias too
Ropz is the sole reason why Faze is Faze. Broky is long gone, Karrigan appears here and there. Frozen is awesome but still needs time. Rain is godlike just like ropz
@@jaxnfpshe wasn’t that great at the start of the year. He was mostly good in late 2023
@@murodradjabov4306faze is gone then lmao
glad youve shown INS the respect he deserves by having him in the top 10 lau
It was great to meet you in Shanghai. Merry Christmas!
the Spinx glazing is crazy
Above jimi seems crazy to me this year
hahaha ikr, even broky in top 20 is crazy lol
13:36 well about that...
Broky > Frozen is crazy to me lol, Merry Christmas everyone!
senzu #8 upcoming
editing on the player shots is sick
this is why launders is the best cs2 analyst. dude calls it how it is without the compensating word salad dancing. straight shooter to the point. good shit dude
Thank god I dont have any similarities with your ranking, I knew I picked well
The Faze glaze is glistening
They made it to both major finals didn't they?
They are in this video not the next 2 so he's pretty on point
Despite the recent struggles, would argue that FaZe players could be a bit higher, knowing how dominant they were at the first half of the season
Love the top 20 so far. Going to be interesting to see what roster changes that happen.
Maybe I'm just hate maxing right now, but broky on this list is kinda wild. I actually don't know in what way you could have the take that broky is better than someone like w0nderful. Not even arguing that w0nderful deserves a spot in the top 20, just that if w0nderful isn't there, broky shouldn't even be close. Statically W0nderful was better vs top 10, 20, or even just all. Higher impact and rating every time. Tournament results wise w0nderful was better as well, even with fazes strong first half. I'd even say the supporting cast around broky is near equal to w0nderful, if not on paper better (even tho im sure b1t and JL will be in the top 10).
I just feel like broky is overrated. He hits a few clips here and there, sure, but misses easy shots far more than the S tier (and most A tier) awpers would. Put simply I feels like broky is someone who seems to struggle to consistently find impact with the most impactful role in the game. If faze are looking towards a rebuild after losing ropz, and have in mind to cut anyone else, the first name on the chopping block HAS to be broky in my opinion. rain and karrigan at least are less of a detriment even when they don't perform individually.
imo your having recenty bias from the major and the couple last months, for most of the year him and frozen were the only reason faze was getting somewhere. He has 4 evps this year and had a 1.09 rating overall only behind frozen(on faze). If he could always play at his peaks he would easily be a top 3 awper unfortunately hes inconsistent but theres literally nobody who could replace/fit his roll right now
Yekindar in top 10? That’s nuts
If you put the list on Yek's screen he wouldn't be able to see all 10 names at once
Yeki in top 50 would be crazy
He's in Top 10 worst
Merry Christmas mr launders, thank you for a great year of casting and cs coverage ❤
that Agent K figurine from Shanghai major is so sick. thanks for the list, coach, and merry Krimbo
Advent robbed, must be top 10
ropz in 14th above broky and frozen feels like crazy recency bias, he was absolutely awful in the 1st half of the year, only good in the last few events
faze was shit before ropz and will be after. simple as that
Everyone above top 10 had bad months. Great major is the most important thing you can do though
Ropz was top 5-8 earlier this year but fell off mid year so that's justified. Broky and frozen shouldn't be here imo, especially broky. He played mid-awful this year ngl
@@launders he dropped a stinker at copenhagen though, kinda like the reverse of broky and frozen (who both did well in copenhagen but not so much in shanghai). In that case where all 3 of them had 1 good major and 1 bad major, surely ropz is below frozen and broky, especially as i do feel like ropz is a fairly passive player
@@mum-your how? until pro league 20 ropz didnt have a single big event rating above 1.1 which is not indicative of a top 15 player. I think frozen deserves top 20 for sure, only 3 bad events throughout the whole year (even though 1 of them was shanghai, ropz also did crap at copenhagen). It's true broky had some absolute stinkers too, but given that he was mvp in the only big event that they won, I think he deserves top 20, i feel like his recent performances overshadows his importance near the start of the year
crazy you're placing ocean in top 10
merry Christmas❤ lau and everyone reading this!
big brazilian fan here. In 2025 I will visit Canada and play a Launders Lan. lets get it.
W sane brazilian fan
Solid list so far. Can't wait for the next 10. Merry Christmas coach ❤
I score all players half based on MVPs(x10) and EVPs (x4): (7 points for Super Elite events, 4 points for Elite events, 2 points for Big events, 1 point for Medium events), half based on rating (Lan vs Top 20). Here is my top 20 ranking:
1. donk 497 points
2. ZywOo 442 points
3. m0NESY 400 points
4. jL 239 points
5. sh1ro 237 points
6. NiKo 195 points
7. flameZ 162 points
8. broky 159 points
9. XANTARES 155 points
10. b1t 153 points
11. frozen 146 points
12. w0nderful 142 points
13. spinx 118 points
14. malbsMd 114 points
15. EliGE 112 points
16. xertioN 109 points
17. iM 108 points
18. jimpphat 106 points
19. KSCERATO 94 points
20. ropz 80 points.
b1t>>>>>>>>>>>>>flamez, broky, xantares
@@itsfutureda all 4 very close.
Xantares rating 1.16 vs b1t 1.12.
flameZ has IEM Cologne and PGL Major EVPs; Broky has PGL Major and IEM Katowice EVPs, b1t has only Cologne EVP of 4 super Elite Events.
Xantares too few appearances should factor in rating imo
only names here not on my impromptu list are: iM, flamez and Brokey.
flamez I can accept, iM less so but yes, but i have no idea how Brokey made it using this metric. My intuition remembers him as a bot that’d go the first 8 rounds with ~1 kill too often to be in top 20
@@tuongtran3172xantares less maps, with less appearances in playoffs, vs worse opponents. Shouldn’t be higher than those people
so torzsi is in top10? No way he's higher than w0nderful
Looking quite dapper my good sir
wonderful doesnt belong on this list he belongs on top 10 for sure :)
Nice to know INS made the top 10!
Congratulations, you sure won this year.💚
Merry Christmas Lau
Damn twistzz went from 2023 Twink to 2024 DADDY
recency bias hella strong w this one, ropz should never be in the top 20 considering he pretty much only had 1 good event
Yea i just don’t get how you can overlook how poor he was for such a long period, as well as mediocre at Copenhagen. This major was really his only good event this year and he was otherwise underwhelming
Somebody in top 10 POGGERS
Second best Igl. behind Niko had me rolling LOL
Looking sharp my goat
this format is way better man but xanti at 15 is crazy! if consistency and real shit starts at 11, he should at least be 12. Love from Ankara your swag is off the charts
Merry Christmas beautifull man
Shanghai was the first major I watched and Launders very quickly became one of my faves
Also, YTB
Merry Christmas Coach Lau
13:31 does he know
Twistzz is here off pure name value and no merit, him becoming an igl (and consequently shitting the bed stats wise) doesnt make him a top 20 player
What are you talking about? Has he not done enough?
0.96 second major, missed first major, zero important play off wins throughout season
@@wangmingchu1379not to reach top 20, no
@@wangmingchu1379 no? he missed multiple big events (katowice, copenhagen major, spring final), missed playoffs in many others (rio, world final, cologne, dallas) and didnt go far in any tournament. He won nothing, had no evps or mvps, had pedestrian ratings against top opposition and on top of that, fell off massively in terms of individual form as a result of taking up the igl mantle which means for 6 months of the year, he was quite bad.
Players like Nertz, w0nderful have much stronger overall cases for a top 20 shout.
Was happy to see malbs and IM on the list
Shoutout Michu, unlucky with roasters
Wooo! I'm so glad Ultimate made the top 10! :)
👍
1-donk
2-ZywOo
3-m0NESY
4-jL
5-sh1ro
6-NiKo
7-b1t
8-w0nderful
9-flameZ
10-frozen
11-Spinx
12-xertioN
13-broky
14-XANTARES
15-Jimpphat
16-iM
17-ropz
18-EliGE
19-zont1x
20-NertZ
Been thinking about this series comin out since January 2024
Yesterday I saw the guy writing a comment about a guy at walmart while being at walmart
Will parts 2 and 3 have more edits than all of the Taken movies, too?
do you personally sign the boxr stickers that come with shirts?
miss the demo review everyday for the top 20s
best christmas gift
11 & 12 same as coach lau, now that's a win.
Had Jimphat and Xantares both in my top ten. Curious to see who fills their spots in your list
I will be pumped if elige grabs a spot in top 20. He has the stats, maybe not the votes.
merry christmas coach
Babe, wake up, Coach Lau just dropped a top 20 video
Can’t wait for the Jambo top-1
I can’t wait to see Ropz with Zywoo and Flamez
20:51 he is keeping the Top 1 a secret.. nobody knows who it is KappaClaus
So this recorded before the news huh, :
Any of the mouse guys have those flaws with the bigger stages but in the coming years they will all be in the top 5
The entire Mouz roster will be the top 5 and Donk and Monesy and Zywoo will be 6 7 8?
@@mooncalf_4534fact check: true information
Senzu not in #20-#11 nor in honorable mentions?
I've seen enough, give him that Top 10.
We're so back
How could you do this to my boy ropz
Bro already dressed like a groom fr
10 Counter Strike players and the GOAT in 1 video
Can't wait to see Karrigan in top 10
not having wonderful is genuinely criminal but otherwise it's a fine list and a fine vid, merry christmas launders
can’t wait for top 20 igls of 2024 (gla1ve #19 karrigan #1)
I think you just got engaged. Congrats 👏
How did broky sneak onto this list?
4 evps 1 mvp, and a top 5 player during the first half of the year?
@ nah
@@HellOzzzGamingfirst 3 months only not the whole half
thoughts on Senzu??
This is THE LIST coach ! ❤
ropz above frozen is recency bias in a nutshell
this is what its all about. life is so good. merry christmas my favourite racist
do an extra video trying to predict the hltv top 20 on their website, its interesting to see
I know this video is totally about something different,but i would love to know if you watched the coffeezilla video about cs skin gambling sites,and what's your opinion about it all?? Would love to know what you think brother! Happy holidays everyone 😊
I was wondering if Elige has a chance at top 20. I know they didnt win anything but man was insane.
All the best players ❤❤
Zhu poster GOAT
When next part?
Never been disappointed about this guys’s ranking because I always know he’d screw up somehow lmao
All rare atom players in top ten wow 😮
Thanks dad
NAF gonna miss top 20 again because of poor team performance, one of the most consistent great players in the scene no matter how well his team is doing
brollan or torszi coming up? ayo launders knows cs
I can't wait for JDC #1
When part 2?