Overseas Pakistanis living in the west relocate to Pakistan or Turkey?
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
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The lack of proper planning and preparation from my fellow Brits who want to emigrate is rather concerning. There is a fundamental difference between living temporarily in another country compared to settling on a permanent basis.
If the toilet doesn't flush in your house/flat in Turkey or if the circuit breaker keeps triggering you are not going to be able to call a tradesman and explain what needs to be done. Let alone negotiate a sensible price. Moving permanently to another country is not simply an extended holiday. You have to be able to negotiate the day to day challenges of life. Not being able to speak the language will be a serious hindrance.
As for earning a living I have yet to see a realistic and workable plan. Everyone continues to earn a living from the UK but work remotely. That isn't a permanent solution. To emigrate properly you'd need to work in the country. A typical example would be Brits that move to Australia. They live and work in Australia.
Turkey has recently tightened its immigration rules so it's not that easy to get a residency visa. Likewise the 'Malaysia My Second Home' (MM2H) visa rules require substantial deposits to get a visa.
In my view the reason for leaving the UK is because you don't feel a part of wider British society. By moving to a Muslim country you feel that you'll belong. You won't. We are a minority and remain so wherever we move. Keep a sense of realism. Do your homework thoroughly and make sure you know exactly what you are doing.
Some good points but people in tech can work remotely for an indefinite time. Moving to Pakistan and working for Western clients remotely seems workable to me, but there are two main caveats. Firstly, you have to insulate yourself from Pakistan's highly toxic politics. And secondly, you have to realize your old family relationships are dead now and you need to build a new social network of your own. Your parents and grandparent's relatives see you as nothing but a money till and are the biggest danger you face there.
Bro if war starts you have to come back and do your bit.@@jimbocho660
@@jimbocho660 very well said, only reason i don't move to pakistan is envious and dangerous relatives that have tried to rob us(taking over properties, breaking into our house etc) and my Dads health has suffered as a result
"You need to be able to call a tradesman and explain what needs to be done" now come on really, what about our parents and grandparents who moved to the UK, they had greater struggles and yet managed and even thrived..... Also we do have apps for that now to translate and you know you can always learn the language or just the basics.
Language is definitely a barrier we didn't want to deal with so we moved to Pakistan but we know an expat family here from the UK the husband is Iraqi Brit not a word of Urdu (although picking up) the wife's Pakistani Brit but can't speak Urdu although understands and kids again speak English and Arabic. They got by in DHA for 2 yrs no problem but have moved more remote past 2 yrs and getting their house built by local builders doing all the normal things getting by fine, where there's a will there's a way brother.
If you have money in Pakistan then you live good but if you don't then life in Pakistan is hard.
It’s not hard, it is miserable if you don’t have money.
@@StayFocused-zs5of This is not saying anything good about the country. alot of red tape , bureaucracy & corruption. Pakistan needs to invest in education
@@americaksushantkinazarse5747 do you even understand english ?
@@mrexpress8002 No I do not, please teach me.
@@mrexpress8002 only NRI PakistaniS who speak in British accent, can speak and understand English, no one else, how much do you charge for teaching English?
Saleh family who make vlogs from Canada just moved to Malaysia...we moved from the UK in 2017 along with 9 other families of friends...
Where in Malaysia did you move to & would you recommend any specific areas to live for someone moving from the UK?
How do you guys earn a living in Malaysia?
What residency did you apply or visa to move? Can you just move there?
Another great clip about living abroad! Getting other expats from your network sharing their experiences sets you apart from all the other vloggers! Keep uploading, bless you and your family!
MashaAllah bro watching from Birmingham, keep up the good work 🙌🏾
Useful especially the starter pack part, would be good for more of in informative video of what someone should do if visiting details about sim cards etc
It's not as hard as you think. Always best to have a good family member or friend close by as word of mouth is the best way. Sim card card be obtained through authorised agents based on your micop card. Only a 5 minutes process. If you don't have NICOP then k believe a passport should be suffice but will need to check. Jazz Sims generally are a good choice in terms of network coverage and cost. For example U can subscribe to a package 25gb and minutes for abt & 3.50.
May Allah SWT make it easy on all three of you guys and your respective families.
Malaysia is my pick definitely but I'm definitely good moving to Turkey especially Istanbul as well. As for Pakistan, maybe...although as a expat I do prefer other places. I would prefer to move from the UK though - other places I would consider are Doha and Abu Dhabi. The brother mentioned Malaysia in the video and he is right about the distance but they have good health care and their English proficiency is wonderful. I agree about cost of living in Pakistan because it is cheaper but I would choose Indonesia myself. Islamabad was voted the second most beautiful capital in the world and if I were to choose Pakistan, it would be Islamabad
That's once you have exhausted everything there and then move on. Why don't you help create a community that can benefit all... And I'm not talking about Rochdale or Rotherham. The pakistani community have done more harm than good there.
Malaysia is also my top pick (of course, I'd love to get the benefits of living in a wealthy but closed off nation like Brunei or the Gulf states, but I'm going to be realistic). Turkey is difficult due to the Lira inflation. But still, being in the West means we can (in theory) set up a source of income to sustain ourselves, no matter where we go. May Allah make it easy for us.
@@Qoral-ef5rz Malaysia ticks all the boxes for me and it is an amazing country with beautiful beaches, amazing waterfalls, jungles, diversity, amazing masjids (and temples), wonderful cities, beautiful tropical islands, incredible people. I went to Brunei when I did visit the Borneo part of Malaysia and it is a small country with not much to do. Turkey would be good for British Muslims like us actually and it does have so many great things to see there but they can be a bit unfriendly at times. Of all the Gulf states, I would actually choose Qatar over UAE any day even though I love Abu Dhabi. Indonesia is a great country and very cheap compared to Malaysia but it does suffer with pollution in some parts and city of Jakarta is sinking apparently.
Even Southern Thailand is a good option as there are a lot of Muslims there and Bangkok has lots of masjids too.
And once you have exploited the country like parasites you will just move on.
upnawalla homies wont go anywhere full time, few months in grandad's village, few weeks in turkey, and then back again to bolton, backburn, bartly, free nhs, free dole, birihani, soda, fast foods, ford focus, lol! give it up bros. LOL!!!
It's best that people should live in their countries of origin. It's easier to fit in. Culture and tradition and language does matter.
It depends on where you get employment and business too. Staying in your own country can cause you to stagnate.
Hey great video really enjoyed it. You gave a useful tip on if you money will get your further in another country compared to UK then one should consider moving there. I'd like to visit Pakistan and visit the coastal towns so Karachi is on my list. I'm a UA-cam vlogger visiting coastal towns and sharing amazing stories about them.
Thank you for sharing this information
The primary goal is to first setup passive income, only then you can enjoy quality life. I'm a British Pakistani and I'm setting my sight on Malaysia, its just not as corrupt as Pak and developed much better.
Living in one's country of origin is ideal. This facilitates integration, as cultural traditions and language are crucial.
Bro, what income options are there?
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Good video. I will be taking early retirement and moving to Pak soon. Its a no brainer especially if you have real estate assets which one could use to earn income.
Brothers, Where would you live in Islamabad?
Uk is finished every town and city is now a cess pit
I’m planning to leave the UK too inshallah. I’m seeing a lot of 3rd generation Asians fed up with life in the UK and looking to leave.
@@ibrahimakhtar2681 it’s just a business hub now I’m welsh born and bred .make some money here then get out good luck to you sir
Where to any suggestion would be welcome? What about austrialia?
@@haroonhussain259 depends what your looking for I guess but Australia for me is too hot and too many dangerous spiders/snakes roaming around for my liking
@@haroonhussain259 All Western countries are in the same mess. The only advantage Australia has over the UK is the weather, though even there the sun in Sydney has the devil in it. Asia is the future.
Im living in peshawar since 2015....my last child is about to complete hifz Quran.... can i have that whatsapp group.. im duel national... UK & Pak...
Just remember ... you must have source of money....
Please email us and I will add you on: mybritishpakistanilife@gmail.com
10,000 RPS daily for a corolla is way too expensive. I was paying that a week.
You can always find a cheaper price, it is more about what is important for you as an individual based on your circumstances and what your requirements are.
I have to agree it's very ,very expensive. You can look up car rental showrooms etc. With driver no more than 6k per day for a newish corolla.
Just came back from Karachi and a Corolla pickup from airport is 3000-6000 rupees. Local In Drive is 1500 rupees. I’m sure service is good but if you don’t know your way around and keep calculating in dollars or pounds you will get taken for a ride 😂
It depends if fuel was included or not.
I got for 3500 for the day... self drive
I agree with brother whose wife was agree to move turkey but took 5yrs convince his wife for Pakistan
You can comfortably live in Pakistan if you were earning in foreign currency. Even then you have to still live and adapt to the Pakistani environment and lifestyle. This can include the unstable political climate, the never ending electrical load shedding, the unpredictable inflation, and the brutal summers you have to bear with are tough..especially with loadshedding .
1) Any time there is an election or something serious protests etc happening, then expect phone service to shut off and also internet. This was going on just last year during the whole Imran khan chase lol, social media had to be shut down because it was showing a different story than the traditional media outlets.
2) Inflation- Prices have gone up drastically and have shown no signs of getting any better either. From fruits/vegetables, electricity bills, and even gas/petrol prices. A price for one product can be raised 3x within a year or less it's insane.
3) Corruption- The government is extremely corrupt and gets away with what it pleases as right, however the lower level everyday man is just as corrupt. From the tire shop guy to the man selling you bad fruit, to even public transportation. Any type of work you can think of will involve corruption, and the reason being is they are allowed to do so without any sort of check and balance system. To live the everyday life you have to understand all of the corrupt system network,shortcuts and any thing that will help you get the job done. For eg: You can go for a simple birth certificate document from one gov building but only to be sent to another , wait in line there to only be told that can't be handled and need to go back to the original building. Take you complaint there then get it done faster by arguing and fighting for a simple piece of paper. Something that could have been even automated or even done online( which is a whole other topic) is being taken ages to do due to laziness and corruption. Oh and that building was in this very same Islamabad, the same Islamabad which doesn't allow motorcycles to go through some roads but will let expensive looking cars go right on.
4) Weather- Now the weather in Pakistan can get both extremely hot and cold as well. If you are in any city within Punjab you will be experiencing some really hot summers, so hot that your clothes get drenched in sweat every day. Punjab and Sindh province both have very high temperature areas, only place I could think of are the northern areas which might have cooler weather. But also that area gets ext cold during winter and heavy snow too. Not much oceanside to escape to unless you are living in the southern side( sindh, karachi etc) so citizens of Punjab mostly cool down in nearby cooler cities ( murree ) or just stay inside with the ac on lol.
5) Health- I’m talking about general health issues which are bound to happen to any new paki bringing that fresh blood. Due to so much pollution within cities , whether it’s air or landfill pollution it’s just a lot. So many open sewers that are bringing in viruses, bugs, mosquitoes, and just general sickness is countless. Now not all cities are completely filthy but they’re scattered around enough to not be spotless clean either if that makes any sense. Islamabad for eg is one of the only spotless cities throughout the entire country and they’ve kept it that way with so many regulations, shows you that it can be done within the whole country too if gov actually cared. The northern area cities are also pretty clean and have some of the best weather too without any pollution or smog. So many people get sick just by the water itself or from something they ate out in the market. You really have to be extra cautious while eating outside at restaurants and street food spots. I barely ever vomit when I’m in the USA but just during my 2023 visit I vomited after eating a few plums. Don't know whether they were not ripe enough or it was due to weather or eating them quickly, but it was something lol. I also see a lot of people there have sugar or high blood pressure even in their 30’s or 40’s which is just mad. Water is a big issue as well even inside major cities like Islamabad or Rawalpindi, I’m talking about water that comes for general use not even drinking water. We had water issues in pindi and murree, we would have to wait for water to come every third day then had to fill up tons of bottles just to use for cooking or using the bathroom, it was madness, it’s something we in the west take for granted very easily. Funny enough in my gaon area they get unlimited water as it was coming directly through the mountain. Oh and you’re bound to have a stomach ache every now and then for sure, and they are the worst kinds too
6) Jobs- Earning in foreign currency is great but not sure if that is a permanent solution to live there indefinitely. Feel like eventually you would have to start earning locally. It’s funny because most of my school time friends/family I know have left the country to pursue work in the west. Dunya gol hai bhai
It's bad because as Muslims we need water to do wudu and pray so that is serious if their is water problems.
@@AmuslimwithAopinion true, of course it's not like it's a drought but there are issues for sure
Its ironic the older generation went from east to west for better live for their kids, the kids now going back. But only if you have £ , Would you would stay there if your income wasnt in pounds. ? You monthly income is still attached to UK 🇬🇧. So not escaped 💯 yet
Yes please do.
Pakistanis need to come back and make the country great
I agree with you. If the best talented people are leaving, who will be left behind?
Yeah for example all the Pakistani Doctors who leave the country after getting their license
You can't blame them.. you've got mafia government
Same istanbul if I had the money
Malaysia near singapore border
Morocco is very good 😊
The future of economic development and prosperity has shifted to the East due to China's rise as a economic superpower. All counties, including Pak will take advantage of that economic prosperity
Also will move insha'Allah from the UK to the UAE sharjah Allah willing - with spouse.
May Allah azaa wajjal make our hijra easy open the doors for us.
West / UK is not fit for living.
Do not go to turkey.
UAE, medina and Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia are all good options - and even Pakistan. Do miss it!
Muslims should just be living in Muslim countries anyways. We cannot live in non muslims secular countries. End of story. Resent parents in thr first place, their all accountable.
Pakistan only good if you have tons money! But yes, I would also luv to live come back to Pakistan/ Islamabad the homeland! All my family cousins naniyaal are back their in Pakistan Karachi. Rather be in Pakistan if I had the money, Inshallah.
Luv Pakistan ❤
Our parents did what they could with the limited knowledge they had. Make D'ua they are forgiven. And be grateful for the blessings of our Lord. Allah granted you parents who wanted what was best for you. And Allah also granted you the ability to earn foreign currency so that when you finally do make Hijrah, you won't be struggling like the locals who never left.
May be when u earn in dollars ,no issue , u can live like kings here
Islamabad mashallah Pakistan 🇵🇰 Zindabad
Bhae mjhay UK fit kerwadou itnay desperate hou tum log regime change operations ka baad. please do so i will keep paying you 'thank you' visit whenever you ask for it. cheers
Bohot desperate Pakistan rrhaish ke Liya, cheers.
@@MyBritishPakistaniLife Honestly if you have a clear purpose of being here then it will become ideal stay like quantifying your standing, work, and business. UK can be a good principle for offshore operations in Pakistan and Islamabad / lahore are leading cities. We can do chat if you think it that way. bless you/
Do *NOT* move to Turkey. That's only one of the few countries where Pakistan still has a good reputation.
Thanks, is moving to Malaysia okay?
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@@MyBritishPakistaniLife Noooo!
How about Malaysia
Malaysia is best. Electricity doesn't cut out, it's s clean country and plenty of Pakistani restaurants if you like them
Definitely recommended. I have been there 6 times already. Honestly, the best country on many levels for Muslims - the only snag is the long distance from the UK. As MoKhan said, electricity doesn't cut out and loads of Pakistani/Indian restaurant, clean country but in addition to that,, great English proficiency, good health care, beautiful masjids, amazing people etc.
On top of that, great cities like KL, JB, Georgetown, KT etc, amazing tropical beaches and islands, jungles, lots of greenery and parks, spectacular waterfalls, amazing cable cars, great infrastructure etc....
I would also choose Indonesia which is cheaper (maybe not Bali though) especially Lombok which is a beautiful tropical island of 1000 masjids Alhamdulillah. I'm going to Malaysia and Indonesia again in July (my 7th visit to Malaysia and my 4th visit to Indonesia)
@@brothersman524are you considering moving to Malaysia ? It’s on my list of places to visit and I will try after Ramadan inshaAllah. I’m in uk living comfortably but not happy with the way things are going here.
@@supersurfer1 I am planning to move to Malaysia (KL to be precise) in the near future. Many Muslims from the UK tend to visit Arab-speaking countries, Pakistan or Turkey but they don't explore further to places like Malaysia and Indonesia - even Southern Thailand and Bangkok got lots of Muslims - there are so much to offer in SE Asia for UK Muslims. The only snag is the length of the journey to get to these places but it is cheaper overall compared to Arab-speaking countries and Turkey. Where are you planning to go in Malaysia? There are 2 parts of Malaysia - Peninsula Malaysia in the west and Borneo Malaysia in the east both separated by South China Sea
@@brothersman524 I have a lot of experience of UAE as I have some investments there but do not find it attractive to live especially for families. Turkey seems too European although I haven’t visited. We did move to Pak for a couple of years but moved back to uk 12 years ago as my sons couldn’t integrate they were around 10 and 12 years old at that time. We want to try again especially now since they have grown up but reluctant about Pakistan due to current situation. So I have been trying to sell them Malaysia but wife isn’t convinced she has been reading that’s it’s corrupt and education system isn’t very good . She is worried about future grandchildren but I’m more interested in us 😊. We plan on visiting after Ramadan InshAllah. Please tell me what are the best places to discover.
We don’t want a busy city life but a good Pakistani or Muslim community. Which areas are best ? Thank you
UK no quality of life.
Its depressing.
Bad weather, stress, expensive, racism, politics, juggle, 9 to 5 & 3 institutions! No freedom?? No maid no cook no sun 😢.
Western countries are not fit for living very deteriorated.
East is better!
But it's alright pakistani men grooming white children in Rochdale and Rotherham?
@@user-ql5pz2gc4gthanks for spending your precious time watching this, much appreciated !
Why do you need a maid and cook
Free up your time 😁
East is better until you need the NHS or unemployment benefits 🤣
Without the two changes of population, and removing the religion from Pakistani government, Pakistan can never succeed. Anyone can accuse a non-Muslim of blasphemy, and can put them in jail, ruining their life.
Hence, why we should have shariah.
@@MyBritishPakistaniLife is that a question or an answer ?
@@MyBritishPakistaniLife does any Muslim country follows Sharia completely?
No, it's an answer. There are no Muslim countries currently following shariah. I pray they all do.
Afghanistan has a Strict Sharia law. But I don't understand why Pakistani government are afraid to invite the experts - Taliban to help implement Sharia law in Pakistan. Soon we hope Sharia law is imposed on Pakistan, reinforcing Islam. But then, one has to forget computers, internet, electronics, peace of mind and power and abide by the rules of Taliban once Sharia is enforced in Pakistan. It will happen soon. Insallah.
*They All Come Running back! Give it june july!*
Benefits of dual nationality 😅
Huge mistake to return to Pakistan. You will regret it. Everything is broken. There is no rule of law. Lawlessness and corruption are everywhere. You will not be safe. No one is safe. There is no political stability. Economy is the worst. The country is bankrupt. No foreign or domestic investors find Pakistan suitable. Both public and private education systems are primitive. Do not waste your time and money in Pakistan. You will not be able to adjust to the country. Your children will not forgive you if you bring them to Pakistan. Just an advice. Think about it.
Being an overseas Pakistani, what kind of reforms in education are you bringing to Pakistan? Are you spreading any awareness of population control? Are you making any moves to remove religion from the politics and the government of Pakistan?
We are moving away from the UK for religion and you want that removed from Pakistan too? That's if there is any in the first place. You being sarcastic or really mentally challenged?
It's not a good sign that these regressive people are coming to Pakistan to exploit poor people and flaunt their pounds.
They're more extreme in religion than the average Pakistani, not different than the settlers in Israel whom they critise the most.
As you can see, everyone is wearing beards, women in burqa, and trying to teach us religion.
They destroyed their own countries and now want sharia law in Pakistan.
They've no loyalty to any country. Pakistani govt. should stop giving people nationality just because someone's grandparents were from Pakistan and left half a century ago.
My father was born in colonial India. Can I claim Indian citizenship? Of course not.
Secularism is a Christian solution to a Christian problem. The Muslims had no issue with developing in science and technology, while governing according to the Shariah. Why would Allah reveal the Shariah if not for us to govern according to its tenets?
But yes, limiting and punishing things like allegations of blasphemy without proof is necessary.
@@Qoral-ef5rz I don’t know from where you are bringing these theories.. India got invaded because of Islam, India got divided because of Islam, Indian had 5 wars because of Islam,India got attacked in 2008 because of Islam, Hindus living in Palkstan are having big problems because of Islam, Islam is a big threat to Global peace and evolution.
@@Qoral-ef5rz then Muslims should not migrate to Secular countries and stay in Islamic countries..
please don't come to Turkiye..
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Only for hair transplant 😂
Why not? Most Turkish people are very friendly, especially towards Pakistani origin people
My plan is to live 6 months in islamabad and 6 months in UK. I have substantial wealth.
For family i would chose pakistan. Some schools are better than UK
Go for it, you won't regret it
That’s awesome stay there don’t come back to the west u have your religion and culture there enjoy don’t ruin it for the rest of us who wanna live in the west
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