To those who don’t know: mammy two shoes was at first indeed as a black maid, but they later changed to her actually being the owner of the house (and Tom)
I thought it was the other way around; she was originally portrayed as Tom's owner, but then due to the stereotype being considered offensive they replaced her with a white woman character.
Honestly, she was my favourite character. I thought she was the owner and I frickin loved her so much. I understand why they'd wanna remove her, but at the same time I think it's important to own up to mistakes and be aware of history rather than just erase it. Also it seems kinda demeaning to remove a prominent black character and replace her with a white one smh
As a kid, I never saw mammy two shoes as a maid. I always thought she was the owner of the house and just always saw the apron as a typical 'house wife' kind of clothing.
They changed Tom's owner to a white lady in the later cartoons. But to be honest, I never saw that scene where she was getting ready for a night out. I know women today who put on the bangle bracelets and the stoplight necklace to "GO" when it's time to go clubbing😝
I always loved when an episode of Tom and Jerry came on with her in it, wanted to give her a big hug. She reminded me of a mother figure, always disciplining Tom. I also assumed she was Toms owner.
@@nathanmorgan3647 The realities of the slave trade. The economics of that era made slavery incredibly profitable for those who owned slaves. With most of the slaves originating from Africa (most Indigenous slaves in the America were dead), people started to dehumanize people from the African continent to justify the acts they were committing. These same attitudes were carried through European colonization of Africa (and Asia). Upon extracting wealth and exploiting, the underclass developed their own distinct distrustful / insular culture that was relatively hostile to the oppressing nations, which furthered the perception of 'inferiority' or 'non-Christianity' views upon them. This mindset was so deeply ingrained in society that Jim Crow laws in the US persisted for almost a century after the Civil War and Apartheid South Africa lasted as long as it did.
@@sciencemanguy BS. Nice programming dude. Most slaves did NOT originate from A drive, not in the US anyway. The transatlantic slace trade was made illegal in the US in the early 1800s, a law spearheaded by Virginia and Georgia, both slave states. French observers noted that race relations in the South were actually far better than in the North, where true racism ran rampant, whereas in the South it was common for whites and blacks to work together in close proximity. As for S Africa, that land was empty when the Dutch forst arrived and built a society there. It was the Zulu and other warlike tribes in the North that saw their prosperity and were jealous and wanted ut for themselves and came in. That was originally a european nation, not a native African.
I watched a lot of these cartoons when I was younger. As an Asian who grew up in Asia, I never understood any of the stereotypes. In fact, I didn't even know those were racial stereotypes. I also didn't even know that Mammy Two Shoes was a maid and always thought she was the house owner.
John Exum I get what you are saying but it’s not that people are born to be racist. The evolutionary defense mechanism you’re referring to is there to have the brain automatically group things into categories in order for fast identification of safe things and dangerous things. It leads to you knowing how to specify what berries are good and what to look out for if they can be bad. This trait incidentally can spark racism but not cause it. It’s just an old but technically still potentially useful biological trait that in a entirely different setting from its development can be misused.
John Exum Well now that you say it like that yes I can see it working in that way to some capacity. However I feel racism wouldn’t solve that issue. So though the mechanisms may work in this way to identify a problem, racism isn’t the solution to it. Perhaps working to better understand why the issue is occurring and avoiding it or resolving it is best.
@John Exum Over all I don’t agree with what you are saying. There is always going to be conflict it, could be between entirely species! I don’t see how this directly means multiculturalism is what leads to conflict, rather conflict is always present no matter the color, race, or species. Yes multiculturalism probably does benefit some people more then others. Yes I do not think racism can be eliminated but at least mitigated and minimized. Segregation would not do either it it would simply mask and ignore it as well as further encourage it. “White” is a very loose term. Depending on who’s in favor and more powerful they are the ones who make the determination. At one point the Irish, Italians, Germans, weren’t considered white, today we wouldn’t blink an eye at that. The entire European continent is more diverse then we classify it in modern times under blanket terms. I think the European continent is a example of multiculturalism can work, but as I said previously there is always conflict it has a lot more factors then just race.
Mammy was a badass. She was basically Tom’s boss, reprimanding him when he slacks/dozes off in his mouse hunting job As a kid I never thought it was racist. I saw it as empowering, that a black person like her could also be a boss to someone Even though she was a maid, she was a badass. Nobody got close to bossing her around
Rick Ramos LOL. Me too! Yeah, the portrayal was racist, but it was still funny. JASPER!!! GET OUT!! O-U-W-T OUT!!!! LOL!!! If you catch any of those episodes now, they use a different voice for mammy and they've edited out scenes I guess were too racist to show these days.
showin&tellin speakin&spellin Liking a character doesn’t make you racist. I’m sure now they know it was racist but didn’t when they were a kid. Don’t be one of those people who call people racist when they did nothing.
An interesting fact is that in the late 40s, the Jewish wolf gag was toned down due(The video is showing the censored version) It was changed because of ...certain events that took place in between 1939 and 1945
@AWGD1 The clip in this video IS the censored version. In the original version, the wolf was wearing a mask with a long, hooked nose and thick glasses. And the wolf originally said "I'm the Fuller Brush man. I've givink avay free samples.", which was a reference to Jews being notoriously stingy, Jack Benny being the best-known example. In the censored version, the wolf isn't even wearing a mask, which makes the disguise much less "convincing". (And it defeats the purpose of the disguise, that Jews don't eat pork.) And the line was redubbed so that the wolf says "I'm the Fuller Brush man. I'm working me way through college.". European You Tube member "Erik", who has a lot of old prints of Disney cartoons with the original titles, has the uncensored version of "Three Little Pigs".
Yeah, she was a stereotype, that's not an insulting thing, any more than having an Aussie stereotype with an acubra hat and a boomerang saying "mate" all the time. I'm an Australian and we think it's funny. Stereotypes aren't harmful per se, it's the intent behind it that matters. The reason you thought she was cool, is because she WAS a cool character.
I actually loved mammy in tom and jerry.... She owned her own house. She was shinning from the chest down... I dont know why people are saying she wasnt toms owner... even in the clip they told her that there was a wild party at HER house. Tom was clearly her cat.
I always appreciated mammys ways. Her strength and style is pretty accurate and proud for a woman of her time. Something very warm about her, would feel safe and protected with her as a caregiver. No nonsense kind of love.
CoolGreySoul CoolGreySoul I think that u r the racist in this case. U are that type that see racism in every cartoon with a black character and if the cartoon doesn’t have any black characters, that’s racist too. It’s pretty funny how you pk folks think. Mammy in Tom & jerry had her own house, she was wearing loads of jewelry do u think that’s racist too? If they had portrayed her as poor you would have been still angry anyway.
@@CoolGreySoul how am I putting words in your mouth? You outright just told someone "what you said is wrong". There's no other way to read that. Yes, subtle racism IS a thing and it WAS common in old cartoons like these, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
Yep. I'm willing to cut them a tiny bit of slack for the World War II era racist content against the Japanese, because the USA was in a major war against them at the time, and it was part of the war propaganda. Still doesn't make it right, but I'm willing to cut a tiny bit of slack on account of the situation.
It was wartime so what do you expect even Dr Suess got into the whole thing and made some very by today's standards un PC depictions of the Japanese and other groups of people
And it wasn't a one-sided thing either; the first anime feature film was a propoganda film promoting the power of the Japanese military and ends with them defeating and children playing with parachutes as they land in america
Yes and it’s a shame that the early work of of African American actors and voice actors has completely been disrespected and thrown away like their work didn’t count. How is that “just?” It’s a shame! Those were the pioneers, sadly, and even more sadly, their work will no longer be seen or heard.
With the song in Dumbo...i dont think they were trying to be racist. I think they were just trying to represent history and say that the elephants were treated like slaves
@@joshuatajiboy525yea, its saying black ppl are poor, when they get paid they blow all of it and are content w that lifestyle. it makes them seem like theyre inherently designed to just be slaves
@@unluckyphantom3356 plus they make it seem as if racism only occurs for black people and asians Edit: A lot of people are accusing me of being white and saying white people don’t experience racism, and while those comments may be correct I wasn’t specifically talking for white people, people of all ethnicities experience racism, and just because a few cartoons made minor mistakes that the creator of the video needs to point out, and because of the specific timing of the making of the cartoons, doesn’t mean anything.
@@cole9590 you sound ignorant white ppl don’t experience racism if that’s what you are tryna say and the creator never said only black and Japanese go through it so does Mexican etc
I never had a problem with Mammy two shoes. Sure she spoke in a very caricaturish way, but in the end she was the boss of Tom and was never seen as weak.
@@somethingcreativ235 Are you unaware that the vast majority of Blacks in America originated from the South? And that Southerners have a specific way of speaking? Or have you just never heard someone Southern, and working class, speak?
and thats the thing about stereotypes and racism. not thinking/questioning and just taking it as you saw it. as a kid i never thought anything about it, until you are an adult and white people look down on black people and suggesting them eating watermelon and keeping out of "mature" business.
@@MoKVidel you actually have to be looking for racism to actually see the subtleties. if you think a cartoon can actually convince someone black people are just burnt people you have a disability in the brain.
@@marioisawesome8218 That's not the point, idiot. To portray black people like that is just disrespectful. If I made a cartoon and exaggerated the Neanderthal features many white people have then you'd have a problem. White people can't take racism but can dish it out all day everyday then act oblivious and play victim.
I also thought that the explosion burned their face 😄 Also, in our culture, there's nothing wrong at all in being black, so I never thought they were mocking the Africans.
Im black and I thought that too when i was very young but at around the age of 7-8 I learned what black face was and looking back at all those episodes all i can say is WHAT THE FUCK TOM AND JERRY!??
@@volsdeep1187 the last hand drawn movie by Disney was princess and the frog and it look 3 and a half years so all those Disney movies made back in the 1900 must have taken double that amount of time
anyone notice how when mickey puts on that hat (nappy hair), its a reference to the black doll saying "mammy" in Santa workshop 0:554:47 they were also made not to far apart in time.
The "Mammy" reference is also attributed to a lot of the Vaudeville black shows that happened as well. It was certainly a popular stereotype that happened in several different cartoons.
I didn’t get this one why is it so racist is it Bc the black doll did it by herself and the white one needed help and I don’t get the three little pigs one and those are half I don’t get and I’m 10 years old so I don’t know some of theese.
@@naycurry2293It’s racist because of how the black doll is still just a Jim Crow caricature, Pitch Black face with huge bright lips with its hair tied in bows and wearing funny clothes and acting all silly, as well as the stereotypical “mammy” line.
@@dark_queen3605 The last Tom and Jerry clip? No he didn't. You must be thinking of a different clip. That clip was most certainly just to make him look like a sunflower and was not racist at all.
Tom and Jerry also has two scenes both involving Tom ends up looking like some old Chinese hermit, along with some Asian-esque music... with one of them is used in "Ching Cheng Hanji" meme
@@mdasrayn1390 yes it's really no sense. In these times not just the nazis but all were racist,and i guess that the fact of Walt Disney was a member of the usa nazism party make it worse.
when i saw Tom n Jerry have explosions and they had the black face i just thought it was soot.... honestly, a racist thought never entered my mind... (im not white)
Bungus McBean it’s 2019 if you say one thing that’s not accusing whites people of being trash or racist then you “must be white and racist” by default. At this point I know more racist black people then I do white. Shame tbh
What are you fucking talking about? Depicting blacks as only racial stereotypes as we see above is what’s racist. Why would you bring up explosions and the soot?? That has nothing to do with black people and those episode aren’t banned
BNKS you know more racist black people!? Impossible. Black people do not gain from being racist. Only white people do. White people are usually in the position of power. Systematic racism is real. And it is reflected upon by the disparities regarding wealth, income, criminal justice, employment, healthcare, political power, education and many many more.
yes because kids will take showing other races as inferior and evil totally like an adult would e: opinion has altered a little. im only ok with this censorship depending on what it may be, like i wouldn’t censor the crows.
Yes and no... Left to be studied in college history-class regarding racism? Yes! Left to be watched by children not knowing any better, or to be watched for the amusement of racists? No!
@@baardkopperud Left out in the open. For all to see and determine for themselves what is right or wrong. Not confined to college classes. Information can be misused even in college classes.
Charlotte Rawlins No she was not their owner. She was a mammy which was cultural stereotype where Black women were portrayed as loud, uneducated housekeepers.
I don't think I ever realized the roustabouts in Dumbo were black. The scene's so dark skin color didn't register. Also as a kid I was unaware of racist stereotypes, so the same goes for the crows.
Same I loved Dumbo and the story. I still love the character Dumbo but it’s horrible how they made black people seem. I also never saw their skin color cause the lighting in that scene was too dark.
The crows are interesting case. They are ever so slightly more subtle than some of these others. And, i think if we are completely honest with ourselves, we have to admit that while they are indeed racial caricatures, they aren't the most unkind variety of caricature compared to so many others. Disney long resisted editing that scene in the way they have so many of their others with racial caricatures in them. The piccaninnies in Fantasia were completely removed, for instance. Unfortunately for the Disney Company, it is hard to imagine that movie without the crows. But I've never been sold on the idea of cleaning up the past by editing this stuff out anyways. We don't remove the slave quarters from Washington's home so as to make it "family friendly" do we? We don't erase the slaves from old photographs of plantations so we can show them to our children without upsetting them. We don't remove the bridge in Selma Alabama because police beatings of black people fighting for their rights happened there? Why should Disney get to clean away its filth like it never happened?
@@ems7623 because when you walk on a bridge it doesn't insult a particular race, it just stays there. On the other hand, these films are still seen by children today, and we shouldn't teach them racism (or make children of insulted races feel hated)
Yeah, the scene is at night. On my 80’s tape, the movie wasn’t as crisp and clear. I always just thought it was shadowed men because it was dark out. I never thought about skin color at all.
Also, Jim Crow's name was changed to "Dandy" a few years later, but unfortunately it did not become popular, and the other four crows were dubbed by African-American actors.
I'm sorry, but as someone who actually watched Dumbo without some present-day person telling me what it means, I never got any sense that the crows were supposed to promote segregation. If anything the movie had a whiff of social commentary on how they're kept separate and why the crows are able to empathize with Dumbo being an outcast.
it’s not just the blackfacing aspect of it, but the lips as well. even in a cartoon, realistically the entire face would be black from the soot and shit. not pink
@@featheredfreaks imo not really racist. Just a playful stereotype.. There were a lot of dark jokes like this back then, and they all seemed like more playful jabs at stereotypes than racism. People are just being a little too sensitive (not saying you are).
It amazes me how some in the comments are busting their asses to explain, justify or change the narrative. "It wasn't that bad. It was a different time."
It is true though it was a different time, there are general things the young internet age seem to fall over themselves to take offence to, which is itself funny to me. In years to come I think some of things people take "offence" to today will viewed in the prism of the politics of the time.
Interesting, you know? For the latin version of the Dumbo song there is a line where they say "Por que no quisimos estudiar" (Because we didn't wanted to study) here in Mexico was never interpretated as black laborers, it was more like "Boy, if you dont study you will end up as a low payed worker almost like an slave".
si, recuerdo que ni habia visto el color de piel, simplemente creia que era de noche y estaba todo oscuro jaja. Para mi simplemente eran personas trabajando en friega, igual los pajaros nunca los vi racista. Me entere de todo eso hasta que vi que los gringos se quejaban bastante en internet.
Nah that's history for you. You either win or you get conquered. They also had brutal wars with neigboring tribes and did some serious scalping, killing and raping. They weren't some noble gentle souls lol. It was pretty much the same in every corner of the world between countries/tribes and it still is in a lot of regions.
I remember watching Dumbo a zillion times when i was little and just LOVING the crows because they moved and danced so well! Never crossed my mind they were "black".
As a kid I enjoyed these cartoons but didn't understand these moments. But now that I'm older and I still look back them, I always pay attention to the warning some of them give before watch, which I think really gives a good look at understanding the past: "The cartoons you are about to see are products of their time. They may depict some of the ethnic and racial prejudices that were commonplace in the U.S. society. These depictions were wrong then and they are wrong today. While the following does not represent the Warner Bros./Disney view of today’s society, these cartoons are being presented as they were originally created, because to do otherwise would be the same as claiming that these prejudices never existed."
Tommy Smith did you mean to say native Africans? I guess the gag was about the saying “cheaper by the dozen” with like donuts, and African slaves were bought in Africa. Also, I’m not saying you think this, but not all African Americans are descendants of slaves a lot have immigrated too meaning it wouldn’t *really* make *that* much sense
A bunch of these feel fairly harmless. However then you come across one of those extremes, like "Cheaper by the dozen"... Holy shit, what were they thinking when they made that?
@@MessedUpBrainspike Lol medias are still like that today.. It's just reversed. I mean CRT, 8 white identities and excluding white people from economic help in California is pretty anti-white..
There’s a scene in Family Guy where Peter loses Chris at Disneyland and goes into a gift shop and encounters the crows from Dumbo and asks them if they’ve seen his son and they say “No I ain’t seen your boy no how”, and Peter laughs and goes “Aw that’s good ol fashion racism”.
Family Guy is literally offensive to everyone. It's not politically correct so find another example. Family Guy is awesome because of how offensive it is. 🖕🏻🤡
I don't know what's more distrubing: that so many characters committed purposeful blackface or that they apparently did so by blowing their face off with dynamite
I remember seeing some Tom and Jerry episodes around 2012 I think on Boomerang and some of the episodes included Mammy Two Shoes before she stopped making any appearances. I didn’t know at the time that she was a racial caricature I always saw Mammy Two Shoes as Tom’s actual owner
Same, when I saw the movie where Tom and Jerry actually talk to each other and saw the woman's legs when she's talking to someone about the house during the beginning of the movie, I was thinking "Who the heck was this?" ( it was the owner, I think, I just didn't understand who she was in the first place, that always confused me as a kid)
For the most part, yeah, but then it has lines about them wasting their money, which is a way of justifying the black workers being poorer. That trope in fact still gets used today - ever heard people talk about how "welfare queens" are spending all their money on iPhones and beauty products?
yellowpig 10 How do you figure? They aren’t slaves. They are the poor class working for a tiny paycheck that they will just waste. And clearly the poor laborers who waste their money on booze and drugs are the minorities right? The crows are clearly racist. His name is Jim Crow FFS.
@@roems6396 I've got no defense for the crows, that WAS racist but I think everyone is being too hard on the song. The thing is I'm pretty sure that entire scene was about them being treated like animals, just like dumbo
@Envy I am not brainwashed, I just don't understand it. English is not my mother language and I don't understand a single word at 4:37. I did not say that it is not racist, I just don't get it. Why do you blame me instead of explaining it?
@Envy He OBVIOUSLY wanted to know about the sunflower part and so do I. What does it symbolize/in what way is that part racist? It seems like the character himself is a racist stereotype but what about the actual sunflower itself?
Correct, but that still doesn't make it any less ignorant, especially seeing as how a portion of the American population was Japanese...and also forced into internment camps for no other reason than because they were of Japanese descent.
@@BlackMambaFox they used them as propaganda back then it was just how it was not like now with political correctness like yes its wrong but it was the way of the times you can't just slap it on there and say yeah this is bad even tho it was justified for being in ww2
Mammy Two-Shoes never appeared racist to me. Sure, she has the "skin tone" animation on her hands; but they didn't use her in any offensive manner. In anything she was one of best personalities of Tom And Jerry. I enjoyed her more than Nibbles and Tyke anyway. Honestly? She had as much personality as Spike, and he was already a great character.
Mammy was a Black woman represented, it's the very opposite of racist. Even journalists used to point her out as a milestone character in Black representation.
@@abdullahal-shimri3091 Bit different, don't you think? It's more like if everyone else in India hated your ethnic group. Black Americans didn't have any "American" solidarity with the rest of the country. It wasn't anti-American racism. It's not even solely anti-black; there are a lot of black people in the world who don't like black Americans. If you really want to try and empathize, imagine instead that you're from India, you love India, this is your country, but 90% of the rest of your countrymen don't think you're actually one of them. It's not like you belong somewhere else; no other country claims you either. This IS your home, but even in your home you don't feel welcome. And think about the ways that would be different from your real-life experience; maybe you have some assumptions that you start questioning when you think about this again. To use a really silly example: it's kind of like you're watching the movie Shrek, and thinking "I don't know what Shrek's problem is-- I live among humans and anti-human racism doesn't bother me at all." The community you have makes your experiences not the same. Shrek may even love himself as he is, but that doesn't mean the world does. And you can see how, even if you love yourself as you are, being "very sensitive" about your skin color is more a response to the world you're forced to live in than a reflection on your own values & character. It's not about skin color; it's about being the "other" & everyone treating you that way, from the moment you're born, before you even understand what skin color is. Not meant to be condescending, I think it's really good that you're using your own experiences to try and understand others across the world. But I hope this helps you think about it differently.
@@TwoStageTrigger you're right, but for AOC, she's from the bronx. I don't actually know what they're supposed like tho. But idk, i haven't really seen any media go at her for the accent.
@@quintonmiller8266 Dude, that scene in Tom and Jerry flew COMPLETELY over my head when I saw it as a kid. Children know nothing about racism or racist stereotypes.
Exactly. I didn't grow up a racist. Black people just happen to be black, and Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) just happen to have slanted eyes so what?
@@chloeking9008 awwwww, poor you. It was a funny joke that was very clever. Just laugh once in a while. I'm Irish and my ancestors were slaves, you don't see me get offended
Chloe King um it's not "finna" its going. Also it's the joke is dark humor. If you keep getting offended over the little racist things. Then you'll never be able to take a joke, because in this day and age dark humor is used very often and black, white, Mexican people are made fun of so... you can't get offended over little things because it’s ridiculous and everyone is just going to be like "it’s just a joke calm down" soo...
Chloe King The key word is when. Back then white people did make fun of blacks, but right now its 2019 not 1965 yes people can still be racist but black people are also racist. Yes back then it was hard to be a black, yes people made fun of blacks, yes people thought less of blacks, but that was back then. Now blacks have a full month of appreciation isn't that amazing? And before you say "well blacks do much harder work" well that’s not true whites work just as hard as blacks. Yes you see those photos of blacks carrying heavy things or they look miserable. The reason they do that is because blacks CHOOSE to be part of that! It's not forced upon them they choose it, and whites work just as hard as that! Lets look at a the president. He wanted to build a boarder and people got mad, because he was being "racist" ,but he was just trying to protect us! Blacks, whites, everyone! He wanted the immigrants out because of drug lords! See now that's just as hard as the blacks he is trying to get everyone to agree with him ,keep his job, keep everyone safe! Thats just as hard as being a black!
none of your fucking business be thankful you didn’t have to grow up in Africa where tribes sneak into other tribes while there sleeping and butcher the shit out of them with machetes while there sleeping.
Crystal Davis yeah I’m thankful as fuck. Good thing that has literally nothing to do with this video or my thoughts on it. Thanks for totally failing to prove a point.
I hated her. My mom was 6ft tall thin and a model. Mammy was horrible representative for black women. None of the black women in my family looked or acted like that.
All of the Japanese cartoons were made in ww2 to make fun of Americas enemies at the time. They were also used to make fun cartoons to help sell war bonds and stamps. (I think)
They did - it's called history folks, just like the statues, they harm no one. PC folks wanna' be offended, take a look at the border invasion, inflation, and the crime stats - those are offensive!
True, but that doesn’t justify how racist the Japanese cartoons are. Let’s not forget about the internment camps in America for anyone of Japanese descent. Racism against Japanese people was at its all time high at this point.
There’s just something so painful about watching your favorite cartoon characters making fun of your own race. It’s like seeing an old friend of yours suddenly turn against you and reveal a whole other, darker side to them...
It sucks that as a mexican I would actually like Speedy Gonzalez even if the way he was created and portrayed was wrong. It just happened to be the only representation I saw as a kid
Mammy Two Shoes isn't considered racist, the fact that her face was never drawn and therefore has no depiction of a stereotypical black woman in the 40's.
@@Spartan3D213 The problem is that they were done as propaganda against the Japanese during war time, and they would not be portrayed at that otherwise if they were not at war. The video in no way states this, meaning if you have not memorized the dates WW2 started and ended (1939-1945) you would just think Disney just did that flat out for no reason, when there was a logical reason behind it. That's why I dislike this video because of how misleading it is, not the full video but every WW2 part featuring Disney portaying the Japanese in a " exaggerated " way. Also everyone knows this video was to just shit on Disney because that's the first thing you think of when you see this. You dont think " Wow this was racially accepted back then?" you think " WTF HOW COULD DISNEY DO THIS? " Though I dont entirely mind because I have always disliked Disney.
@@Spartan3D213 the people of today wanna censor stuff thats what is worse these videos probably wont be on the internet in 20 years down to political correctness
@@baongocnguyenhong5674 his mouth was shut and was very small. There were no big lips, just the area around the mouth (chin and cheeks included) was a different color. Gtfo here with these racist assumptions
I loved Crows, when I was a kid. 😢 They were second characters on a movie who treated Dumbo kindly (mocking him first, but showing kindness later) and looked past his disability. I've always thought that everyone treated Dumbo poorly not only because of his ears, but because of his kind nature, because he couldn't protect himself and was mute. No one stood for him apart of that small mouse, that couldn't do anything to protect him, just console him. I've always had impression that the crows were non-judgemental, supporting and very inspirational towards Dumbo. Probably, bc he was outcast for everyone like they were at that time. To me now their short friendship is a symbol of empathy and kindness even in the worst situations, when no one wants you. ❤
Yeah, most of these didn't make me react much (mostly cause I'd seen most before, and not being too surprised at the level of casual racism they used to throw in) but I'd never seen that one and my jaw nearly hit the floor
@Zeroith Zenith - But in old cartoons, most people are greatly exaggerated, no matter if they are black, white, or whatever. Look at Fred Flintstone for example - fat, lazy, angry, entitled asshole - you know, a pretty accurate caricature of typical American. ^^' How is the judo instructor, or even the black lady from Tom and Jerry, worse than him? ^^' Granted, some of the cartoons shown in this video were actually racist, but not all of them. It is kinda silly to shout "RACIST!" at everything, even if it is just a harmless caricature or fun exploration of the stereotype or archetype. ^^'
@Chelline R. - No, if she was white, she would look like my grandma, and I will have you know, that my grandma looks adorable. ^^' Also, how can you tell that she would look ugly if we have never seen her face? ^^'
It’s funny to me how long It generally takes to make animation, and the animators decided to use their time and money to make scenes and cartoons that haven’t aged well in the slightest.
@@justapineapple6243 That line is used in slave ads which means that you can buy two slaves for a price of one. So this line is alluding to the practice of slavery.
Read about the "Elephant Fly" song on Wikipedia. The writers, singers, arrangers, musicians, were all black jazz & soul musicians. In those days they didn't get much of a chance at performing in "mainstream" entertainment, so in a way, it was "progress" for them to be able to showcase their talent. Plus the lyrics were pretty clever. & the music really good, & measures up very well today.
@@notwwwansik just because it's wrong for you doesn't mean it's wrong for me, as a Japanese descendant of the first Japanese to arrive in Brazil, I was not offended
@@notwwwansik how is it not ok? what did she ever did wrong that makes it not ok? yes I'm black too, i can't understand people who see everything as racism. unless of course the definition of racism have changed and i don't know.
Let's be honest, when we were little, we didn't even think about those moments and just enjoyed watching cartoons. Or is it just that I'm really weird?
Never thought about it at all. Kids don’t think about racism. It’s these over the top adults who are trying to ruin modern Childrens lives by overreacting to things that shouldn’t even be a problem
Actually, the Crows in Dumbo were actually one of the most positive characters in the movie. They weren’t lazy, rather, free spirited and were voiced by the Hall Johnson Choir, an all black gospel group. They were meant to be spoofs of entertainment groups at the time
@@stephenholloway6893 The rest of the crows were though. They were voiced by the Hall Johnson Choir. Bottom line: They weren’t racist and even the first black animator Walt Disney ever hired stands behind them.
so are Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam positive white role models? Maybe that's the whole reason black people think all white people are dumb and backwards racists,it's Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam! Because how better to demonstrate white supremacy than to make the only popular white characters inept idiots who can't catch a rabbit!!! or am I the only one who realizes it's a damn cartoon??? gangster rap encourages racial harmony,right? haha!😙
Gavin Snyder Stereotypes are nothing more than reputations we or other people create for each other that we can choose to get mad, laugh at, ignore, or change them. I prefer to ignore those who choose the first option. 😊
Evan W No, they think that, because they are (understandably) resentful towards whites for how they were treated in the past and have difficulty letting it go.
To those who don’t know: mammy two shoes was at first indeed as a black maid, but they later changed to her actually being the owner of the house (and Tom)
I thought it was the other way around; she was originally portrayed as Tom's owner, but then due to the stereotype being considered offensive they replaced her with a white woman character.
"actually"
Honestly, she was my favourite character. I thought she was the owner and I frickin loved her so much.
I understand why they'd wanna remove her, but at the same time I think it's important to own up to mistakes and be aware of history rather than just erase it.
Also it seems kinda demeaning to remove a prominent black character and replace her with a white one smh
How do you know this?
@@Ravie3 Back when they still were on t.v. in the episode SATURDAY EVENING PUSS they switched her as a slim white woman
As a kid, I never saw mammy two shoes as a maid. I always thought she was the owner of the house and just always saw the apron as a typical 'house wife' kind of clothing.
She's the owner....she was originally to be a maid but it was changed
They changed Tom's owner to a white lady in the later cartoons.
But to be honest, I never saw that scene where she was getting ready for a night out. I know women today who put on the bangle bracelets and the stoplight necklace to "GO" when it's time to go clubbing😝
Me too and I’m mexican, no racism over here
I always loved when an episode of Tom and Jerry came on with her in it, wanted to give her a big hug. She reminded me of a mother figure, always disciplining Tom. I also assumed she was Toms owner.
Same
As a kid I always assumed the black woman was Tom's owner in Tom & Jerry.
Yea
Agreed
Wait, she isn't?
Jade lmfao that’s what I’m saying! What is she then? Is she supposed to be the maid? Omg
She was actually the owner of Tom, you can see it in many episodes like Saturday evening puss
Well I ever assumed that the black woman was Tom and the house owner as a child. And I never noticed nothing racist at it.
We aren't born racist we are taught
@@lillyarts2ridiculous.
@@lillyarts2Then who taught the first racist racism? What introduced it into humanity?
@@nathanmorgan3647
The realities of the slave trade. The economics of that era made slavery incredibly profitable for those who owned slaves. With most of the slaves originating from Africa (most Indigenous slaves in the America were dead), people started to dehumanize people from the African continent to justify the acts they were committing. These same attitudes were carried through European colonization of Africa (and Asia). Upon extracting wealth and exploiting, the underclass developed their own distinct distrustful / insular culture that was relatively hostile to the oppressing nations, which furthered the perception of 'inferiority' or 'non-Christianity' views upon them. This mindset was so deeply ingrained in society that Jim Crow laws in the US persisted for almost a century after the Civil War and Apartheid South Africa lasted as long as it did.
@@sciencemanguy BS. Nice programming dude. Most slaves did NOT originate from A drive, not in the US anyway. The transatlantic slace trade was made illegal in the US in the early 1800s, a law spearheaded by Virginia and Georgia, both slave states. French observers noted that race relations in the South were actually far better than in the North, where true racism ran rampant, whereas in the South it was common for whites and blacks to work together in close proximity. As for S Africa, that land was empty when the Dutch forst arrived and built a society there. It was the Zulu and other warlike tribes in the North that saw their prosperity and were jealous and wanted ut for themselves and came in. That was originally a european nation, not a native African.
Growing up as a black kid i loved tom and Jerry's mammy because i remember not seeing too many black characters if any
Exactly.
I loved her as well.
She was the 1st Tall vampire lady
I love black people because they're beautiful and Pretty!
@@CapriMarnelle_Official yes ✨
I’m pretty sure everyone remembers the black mom from Tom and jerry, and her ability to run as fast as a super car if there is a party being thrown.
Oh yeah! The way she dealt with Tom and had zero patience for his stupidity was absolutely hilarious! I can still hear her shouting, “THOMAS!!!”
@@missagente8100 ik lol
I didn't even know it was racist💀
You mean black “Mammy”
@@nothisispatrick1797 tbf I thought none of these were racist when I first watched them. I still don't get the red face one
I watched a lot of these cartoons when I was younger. As an Asian who grew up in Asia, I never understood any of the stereotypes. In fact, I didn't even know those were racial stereotypes. I also didn't even know that Mammy Two Shoes was a maid and always thought she was the house owner.
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“Alright one more video before I go to bed.”
The video:
No one cares what time you go to bed
@@James-kv6kbNo
@@James-kv6kb bruh...
@@lucasdaniel8902 it would seem you're not able to communicate unless its one word
@@James-kv6kbI di
It’s weird how you never notice things like this as a child
@John Exum who the hell uses the term "hippie" lmao fucking racist boomer
panic! in 1975 my boy tried to make some up when he started losing the argument 😂😂
John Exum
I get what you are saying but it’s not that people are born to be racist. The evolutionary defense mechanism you’re referring to is there to have the brain automatically group things into categories in order for fast identification of safe things and dangerous things. It leads to you knowing how to specify what berries are good and what to look out for if they can be bad. This trait incidentally can spark racism but not cause it. It’s just an old but technically still potentially useful biological trait that in a entirely different setting from its development can be misused.
John Exum
Well now that you say it like that yes I can see it working in that way to some capacity. However I feel racism wouldn’t solve that issue. So though the mechanisms may work in this way to identify a problem, racism isn’t the solution to it. Perhaps working to better understand why the issue is occurring and avoiding it or resolving it is best.
@John Exum
Over all I don’t agree with what you are saying.
There is always going to be conflict it, could be between entirely species! I don’t see how this directly means multiculturalism is what leads to conflict, rather conflict is always present no matter the color, race, or species.
Yes multiculturalism probably does benefit some people more then others.
Yes I do not think racism can be eliminated but at least mitigated and minimized.
Segregation would not do either it it would simply mask and ignore it as well as further encourage it.
“White” is a very loose term. Depending on who’s in favor and more powerful they are the ones who make the determination. At one point the Irish, Italians, Germans, weren’t considered white, today we wouldn’t blink an eye at that. The entire European continent is more diverse then we classify it in modern times under blanket terms.
I think the European continent is a example of multiculturalism can work, but as I said previously there is always conflict it has a lot more factors then just race.
Did anyone ever have a problem with mammy two shoes...
I grew up watching this show and she was an absolute queen
x_fxck_itzz_devin_x bring back Mammy :’( she was a wonderful lady.
I'm hip, I never thought mammy was racist, she was funny too
Mammy was a badass.
She was basically Tom’s boss, reprimanding him when he slacks/dozes off in his mouse hunting job
As a kid I never thought it was racist. I saw it as empowering, that a black person like her could also be a boss to someone
Even though she was a maid, she was a badass. Nobody got close to bossing her around
Jasmine Cruz was she ever a maid?from what I remember, in most episodes she owned the house
She was and still is a queen! All she wanted to do was to keep the house cleen
Not gonna lie, I loved that black mammy growing up. Especially how she'd chew-out the cat and holler at him, "THOMAS!!!!"
Yes🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣
indeed, good ol times
😭
Rick Ramos LOL. Me too! Yeah, the portrayal was racist, but it was still funny. JASPER!!! GET OUT!! O-U-W-T OUT!!!! LOL!!!
If you catch any of those episodes now, they use a different voice for mammy and they've edited out scenes I guess were too racist to show these days.
showin&tellin speakin&spellin
Liking a character doesn’t make you racist. I’m sure now they know it was racist but didn’t when they were a kid. Don’t be one of those people who call people racist when they did nothing.
An interesting fact is that in the late 40s, the Jewish wolf gag was toned down due(The video is showing the censored version) It was changed because of ...certain events that took place in between 1939 and 1945
I’m assuming you’re talking about the 1945 anti-Jewish riots in Cairo (jk, I know what the H0l0cau$t is)
it took genocide to get them to stop. jesus
and to think it was only to try and be morally superior to nazis
@AWGD1 The clip in this video IS the censored version. In the original version, the wolf was wearing a mask with a long, hooked nose and thick glasses. And the wolf originally said "I'm the Fuller Brush man. I've givink avay free samples.", which was a reference to Jews being notoriously stingy, Jack Benny being the best-known example. In the censored version, the wolf isn't even wearing a mask, which makes the disguise much less "convincing". (And it defeats the purpose of the disguise, that Jews don't eat pork.) And the line was redubbed so that the wolf says "I'm the Fuller Brush man. I'm working me way through college.". European You Tube member "Erik", who has a lot of old prints of Disney cartoons with the original titles, has the uncensored version of "Three Little Pigs".
I thought the woman from tom and jerry was cool...
Yeah, she was a stereotype, that's not an insulting thing, any more than having an Aussie stereotype with an acubra hat and a boomerang saying "mate" all the time. I'm an Australian and we think it's funny. Stereotypes aren't harmful per se, it's the intent behind it that matters. The reason you thought she was cool, is because she WAS a cool character.
Clint Hobson Here,here.
Michael Jenner
I called my black friends older sister ( Mammy ) I pissed her off and ripped into me but Butch saved me.
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Clint Hobson yea there’s a fine line between stereotype and racist
@ No. I always thought she was a chill character. Skin color doesn't matter to me. I suppose it's her personality.
I actually loved mammy in tom and jerry.... She owned her own house. She was shinning from the chest down... I dont know why people are saying she wasnt toms owner... even in the clip they told her that there was a wild party at HER house. Tom was clearly her cat.
@@CoolGreySoul the episode where Tom gets replaced with a robot cat, everything she says completely implies Tom was *her* cat.
I always appreciated mammys ways. Her strength and style is pretty accurate and proud for a woman of her time. Something very warm about her, would feel safe and protected with her as a caregiver. No nonsense kind of love.
CoolGreySoul CoolGreySoul I think that u r the racist in this case. U are that type that see racism in every cartoon with a black character and if the cartoon doesn’t have any black characters, that’s racist too. It’s pretty funny how you pk folks think. Mammy in Tom & jerry had her own house, she was wearing loads of jewelry do u think that’s racist too? If they had portrayed her as poor you would have been still angry anyway.
I know there is a difference between being racist and stereotyping people. But I'm confused about what it is
@@CoolGreySoul how am I putting words in your mouth? You outright just told someone "what you said is wrong". There's no other way to read that. Yes, subtle racism IS a thing and it WAS common in old cartoons like these, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
I really thought the black women in Tom and jerry was the house owner
I am too!
In the Filmation ones she was, but it was a much more toned down version. These were from the early 80s and were not very popular.
Me too
@Edits ...
she is
2:16 the reason they depict a Japanese soldier that way was because of Propanganda reasons.
And 3:15
@@midnightrambler7716 I love war time propaganda! I might go and check it out. And I even wondered how the Japanese thought of us in WW2.
Yep. I'm willing to cut them a tiny bit of slack for the World War II era racist content against the Japanese, because the USA was in a major war against them at the time, and it was part of the war propaganda. Still doesn't make it right, but I'm willing to cut a tiny bit of slack on account of the situation.
It was wartime so what do you expect even Dr Suess got into the whole thing and made some very by today's standards un PC depictions of the Japanese and other groups of people
Doesn't make it ok
I know most of the Japanese characters where portrayed like this because of WW2 and them being America’s enemy
I know most of the Jewish characters were portrayed like this because of ww2 and Hitler not liking them.
I'd say it was pretty justified at that point in history.
There's a reason why the Japanese were called the "Asian Nazis".
@@notallopinionswerecreatede4465 The Japanese were very cruel and also had their own kind of racial theories as the Nazis
Propaganda
And it wasn't a one-sided thing either; the first anime feature film was a propoganda film promoting the power of the Japanese military and ends with them defeating and children playing with parachutes as they land in america
Hearing Mickey being racist is like if Mr. Rogers joined the KKK.
Well walt disney was also rasict so that kinda explains it
@@taliyahh6375 how do u know?
@@levymcgarden9117 I know he didn't like Jews, but that's not racist. People like the dumb bitch above you lump in all prejudice as "racism"
@Chris Blackwell you're clearly the idiot for thinking that Judaism is a race hahaha
@@oneenglishbastard87 It’s not racist, but it is religious harassment
The Tom and jerry “mammy” episodes we’re still played early 2000 on Cartoon Network. I remember them.
i had the whole tom and jerry series on dvd and i remember that episode
I DO TOO!!!
Yes and it’s a shame that the early work of of African American actors and voice actors has completely been disrespected and thrown away like their work didn’t count. How is that “just?” It’s a shame! Those were the pioneers, sadly, and even more sadly, their work will no longer be seen or heard.
Same
and they were funny as hell
With the song in Dumbo...i dont think they were trying to be racist. I think they were just trying to represent history and say that the elephants were treated like slaves
The racist part is in the lyrics where they made it sound like the slaves were happy
@@fonejunky6306they most definitely not trying to be happy.
@@joshuatajiboy525yea, its saying black ppl are poor, when they get paid they blow all of it and are content w that lifestyle. it makes them seem like theyre inherently designed to just be slaves
@@fonejunky6306the lyrics are disgusting “We work all day work all night we’re happy hearted roustabouts” and also claiming they throw their money
@@jesterinn Exactly, the lyrics are disgusting because they try to make the slaves seem happy and like they want to be doing this
The moment the bomb exploded on Jerry's face I always thought it showcased him as a sunflower. Little did I know...
Same bro
@Jace Jonas Seriously. They're trying to make everything seem racist.
@@unluckyphantom3356 plus they make it seem as if racism only occurs for black people and asians
Edit: A lot of people are accusing me of being white and saying white people don’t experience racism, and while those comments may be correct I wasn’t specifically talking for white people, people of all ethnicities experience racism, and just because a few cartoons made minor mistakes that the creator of the video needs to point out, and because of the specific timing of the making of the cartoons, doesn’t mean anything.
@@cole9590 you sound ignorant white ppl don’t experience racism if that’s what you are tryna say and the creator never said only black and Japanese go through it so does Mexican etc
@@miyaadabae_6618 so your saying every race except white people can be treated racistly
I never had a problem with Mammy two shoes.
Sure she spoke in a very caricaturish way, but in the end she was the boss of Tom and was never seen as weak.
She was te baddest bitch on the show i just wish the history of this all wasnt so dark
IggyTthunders So..... All black people are from the south?
@@somethingcreativ235 Are you unaware that the vast majority of Blacks in America originated from the South? And that Southerners have a specific way of speaking? Or have you just never heard someone Southern, and working class, speak?
@MoSSad Jewish CIA Prove it.
IggyTthunders Lmao what? All blacks? Majority is not all. And it’s probably way less than that.
Not going to lie, never thought much of the black face jokes in Tom and Jerry. I just they were just burnt. :P
and thats the thing about stereotypes and racism. not thinking/questioning and just taking it as you saw it. as a kid i never thought anything about it, until you are an adult and white people look down on black people and suggesting them eating watermelon and keeping out of "mature" business.
@@MoKVidel you actually have to be looking for racism to actually see the subtleties. if you think a cartoon can actually convince someone black people are just burnt people you have a disability in the brain.
@@marioisawesome8218
That's not the point, idiot. To portray black people like that is just disrespectful. If I made a cartoon and exaggerated the Neanderthal features many white people have then you'd have a problem. White people can't take racism but can dish it out all day everyday then act oblivious and play victim.
I also thought that the explosion burned their face 😄
Also, in our culture, there's nothing wrong at all in being black, so I never thought they were mocking the Africans.
Im black and I thought that too when i was very young but at around the age of 7-8 I learned what black face was and looking back at all those episodes all i can say is WHAT THE FUCK TOM AND JERRY!??
1:37 remember; if disney copyrights this, it's canon
It’s arleady canon
I don't think you understand how the meme works
2:46 I never noticed it was only black dudes working and how dark the song was when I was younger
I realized that it was only black dudes when i around about 9 or 10.
I never cared if the song was racist but I enjoyed it
It seems dumbo didn't as well! Look at his face he looks happy!
I kind of have some mixed feelings about this song 😅
To be honest I couldn’t really hear what they were saying when I last saw this movie
I saw "black face Micky mouse" and thought ' how could they do that? He's a black mouse?' but they somehow actually managed it 💀
😵😵😵
🤣😂😂
Nigga mouse clubhouse
@@dan182v lmaooo
I dont think it was blackface because these episodes were made are New York not the south I dont see any racism
Am I the only one who wondered how they had such smooth animation in the 30s??
Wo dared? Wtf are u saying
@@donutdiggs7348 wondered lmao omg
Its smooth because its hand drawn they draw it frame by frame thats how all the old Disney movies got made
@@bux68 how long did that take?
@@volsdeep1187 the last hand drawn movie by Disney was princess and the frog and it look 3 and a half years so all those Disney movies made back in the 1900 must have taken double that amount of time
anyone notice how when mickey puts on that hat (nappy hair), its a reference to the black doll saying "mammy" in Santa workshop
0:55 4:47 they were also made not to far apart in time.
The "Mammy" reference is also attributed to a lot of the Vaudeville black shows that happened as well. It was certainly a popular stereotype that happened in several different cartoons.
They censored 0:55 on Disney plus.
I didn’t get this one why is it so racist is it Bc the black doll did it by herself and the white one needed help and I don’t get the three little pigs one and those are half I don’t get and I’m 10 years old so I don’t know some of theese.
@@naycurry2293It’s racist because of how the black doll is still just a Jim Crow caricature, Pitch Black face with huge bright lips with its hair tied in bows and wearing funny clothes and acting all silly, as well as the stereotypical “mammy” line.
@@PanickedThoughts mfs at Disney make me pay for their streaming service and then make me pay an extra $30 to see one new movie with a subpar rating.
In Brazil everyone knows Mammy two shoes as "Dona do Tom" (Tom's owner)
Everyone thought of her as their owner. To be honest, even I did. But I guess we were all wrong
I also thought the same
@Marcus Straya if you think that than you’re as big of a fucking idiot as these animators
Growing up in Korea, watching this cartoon, I also thought the same. We were just innocent kids who couldn’t think otherwise.
@@sophiesartwork4729 she was a maid then made the owner.
That last Tom and Jerry one i always thought was supposed to be a sunflower.
Same, but then later on I realized he had baretts (However u spell it) in his "hair"
@@dark_queen3605 The last Tom and Jerry clip? No he didn't. You must be thinking of a different clip. That clip was most certainly just to make him look like a sunflower and was not racist at all.
4:46 can be my perfect flower
@Thrown ! bruh you can't even deny every single one of those were racist, except the flower one idk bout that one but you can't deny any other ones.
@@Hamburgers4Haiti It was blackface, ARE YOU BLIND? ua-cam.com/video/yf7jAF2Tk40/v-deo.html Watch this video.
Tom and Jerry also has two scenes both involving Tom ends up looking like some old Chinese hermit, along with some Asian-esque music... with one of them is used in "Ching Cheng Hanji" meme
Sometimes we forget how much cocaine there was on Coca-Cola that time.
I wish there still was!!!
You mean 1/400th the amount to get you high? Whatchu thinkin headass lmfao I was almost none.
@@shadic187 i wanna know how is mickey mouse racist, i mean isn't it normal to call another black dude friday. i mean mickey is both white and black.
@@mdasrayn1390 yes it's really no sense. In these times not just the nazis but all were racist,and i guess that the fact of Walt Disney was a member of the usa nazism party make it worse.
@@nigstar1239 IDK why people think saying the N word as slang is ok but not calling another blakc dude friday ok
when i saw Tom n Jerry have explosions and they had the black face i just thought it was soot.... honestly, a racist thought never entered my mind... (im not white)
You shouldn't have to use "I'm not white" to prove that you're aren't racist.
Tom nigga Jerry get it tom n jerry
Bungus McBean it’s 2019 if you say one thing that’s not accusing whites people of being trash or racist then you “must be white and racist” by default. At this point I know more racist black people then I do white. Shame tbh
What are you fucking talking about? Depicting blacks as only racial stereotypes as we see above is what’s racist. Why would you bring up explosions and the soot?? That has nothing to do with black people and those episode aren’t banned
BNKS you know more racist black people!? Impossible. Black people do not gain from being racist. Only white people do. White people are usually in the position of power. Systematic racism is real. And it is reflected upon by the disparities regarding wealth, income, criminal justice, employment, healthcare, political power, education and many many more.
Censorship makes whole generations forget history.
I believe all of it needs to be left for posterity.
Liberals would agree otherwise, apparently being "politically correct" to them is more important than being historically correct.
yes because kids will take showing other races as inferior and evil totally like an adult would
e: opinion has altered a little. im only ok with this censorship depending on what it may be, like i wouldn’t censor the crows.
Yes and no... Left to be studied in college history-class regarding racism? Yes! Left to be watched by children not knowing any better, or to be watched for the amusement of racists? No!
@@baardkopperud
Left out in the open. For all to see and determine for themselves what is right or wrong. Not confined to college classes. Information can be misused even in college classes.
Yup fuck censorship. Liberals are a fucking disease and the reason racism exists. They need to be eradicated
why is nobody talking about the mom giving her baby a watermelon at 1:18 😭💀
Because all of the other cartoons are equally as bad
I thought the black women was tom and Jerry’s owner
She was. There's nothing racist about that. The whiny white lib who made this probably secretly hated black women.
Charlotte Rawlins No she was not their owner. She was a mammy which was cultural stereotype where Black women were portrayed as loud, uneducated housekeepers.
@@daytradernupe then why do she can wear that much groceries in Puss Get The Boots
@@trawlins396 You missed the whole point. it was the stereotypes of a black woman not the fact if she was the owner or not
Robert Morneau Did you miss the point? The guy didn’t say it wasn’t a stereotype. He literally just said she was his owner
I don't think I ever realized the roustabouts in Dumbo were black. The scene's so dark skin color didn't register. Also as a kid I was unaware of racist stereotypes, so the same goes for the crows.
Same I loved Dumbo and the story. I still love the character Dumbo but it’s horrible how they made black people seem. I also never saw their skin color cause the lighting in that scene was too dark.
The crows are interesting case. They are ever so slightly more subtle than some of these others. And, i think if we are completely honest with ourselves, we have to admit that while they are indeed racial caricatures, they aren't the most unkind variety of caricature compared to so many others.
Disney long resisted editing that scene in the way they have so many of their others with racial caricatures in them. The piccaninnies in Fantasia were completely removed, for instance.
Unfortunately for the Disney Company, it is hard to imagine that movie without the crows.
But I've never been sold on the idea of cleaning up the past by editing this stuff out anyways. We don't remove the slave quarters from Washington's home so as to make it "family friendly" do we? We don't erase the slaves from old photographs of plantations so we can show them to our children without upsetting them. We don't remove the bridge in Selma Alabama because police beatings of black people fighting for their rights happened there? Why should Disney get to clean away its filth like it never happened?
@@ems7623 because when you walk on a bridge it doesn't insult a particular race, it just stays there. On the other hand, these films are still seen by children today, and we shouldn't teach them racism (or make children of insulted races feel hated)
Yeah, the scene is at night. On my 80’s tape, the movie wasn’t as crisp and clear. I always just thought it was shadowed men because it was dark out. I never thought about skin color at all.
@ewetube is a TYRANT we don’t understand
I never saw the crows in Dumbo as racist. As a kid I found them kinda cool.
Not to mention the fact that they were actually willing to help Dumbo
Also, Jim Crow's name was changed to "Dandy" a few years later, but unfortunately it did not become popular, and the other four crows were dubbed by African-American actors.
Me neither
crows are black no other color
Sebastian Brinkmann They were the SHIT!
I'm sorry, but as someone who actually watched Dumbo without some present-day person telling me what it means, I never got any sense that the crows were supposed to promote segregation. If anything the movie had a whiff of social commentary on how they're kept separate and why the crows are able to empathize with Dumbo being an outcast.
i still remember the exploding sunflower episode and being confused why jerry had HUGE PINK lips from an explosion as a kid......damm...
i was basically saying it was a racist stereotype, i ain’t a racist and anyone who’s racist needs to get a fucking life and stop.
@@featheredfreaks I don't think he's calling you racism he was just giving an answer ^~^
it’s not just the blackfacing aspect of it, but the lips as well. even in a cartoon, realistically the entire face would be black from the soot and shit. not pink
I remember that too
@@featheredfreaks imo not really racist. Just a playful stereotype..
There were a lot of dark jokes like this back then, and they all seemed like more playful jabs at stereotypes than racism. People are just being a little too sensitive (not saying you are).
As a kid, I actually liked mammy two shoes a lot. I thought she was really funny and was just toms owner
Same.
@@tommyddoom lol
Me too, I used to think she was "Tom's mum" when I was 4-5 years olds lol
same!
Me too! When she chased Tom down the stairs for throwing water on her while she was sleeping is my favorite!!
C'mon, I'm dark-skinned and I always thought Mammy Two-Shoes was best part!
Johanna Anuar look at gone with the wind , she was cool.
right, she was a major black cartoon character of the times.
the entire country didn't walk on eggshells back then in fear a wrong word or expression would come out
gee I wonder why that was? because blacks back then didn't have much right back then ya fuckin' genius.
I enjoyed the black cooks chasing The Three Stooges with cleavers.
It amazes me how some in the comments are busting their asses to explain, justify or change the narrative. "It wasn't that bad. It was a different time."
Well, it was a different time. It's not like history is pretty.
It was, doesn't make the cartoons less fun to watch
I guess you hate your grandfather. There's no way you can sort of understand his manners and mistakes just because he lived in a different era, right?
It is true though it was a different time, there are general things the young internet age seem to fall over themselves to take offence to, which is itself funny to me. In years to come I think some of things people take "offence" to today will viewed in the prism of the politics of the time.
The Popeye one was the one that hit everyone in the gut Jesus 💀
Na not really it's just funny
@@codyleslie478 yeah I will admit it was funny but thats some beyond racist shit😂
yeah the ending holy shit 😭
@Alxekaモッカ bruh watch the video im not giving u the damn timeline 😂
@Kamikaze PG my pfp is holy
Interesting, you know? For the latin version of the Dumbo song there is a line where they say "Por que no quisimos estudiar" (Because we didn't wanted to study) here in Mexico was never interpretated as black laborers, it was more like "Boy, if you dont study you will end up as a low payed worker almost like an slave".
Mijo speedy gonzalez and pepe lepou mexico and france
Jaja como me fregaba mi papá cada vez que veíamos esa película con esa escena "si no estudias vas a acabar así"
@@AlejandroKar98k Coño sí, hermano. Con papá era imposible ver esa película, siempre el mismo cuento.
Pero como chillabamos con la mamá de Dumbo
They really just called me an orange picker😭
si, recuerdo que ni habia visto el color de piel, simplemente creia que era de noche y estaba todo oscuro jaja.
Para mi simplemente eran personas trabajando en friega, igual los pajaros nunca los vi racista.
Me entere de todo eso hasta que vi que los gringos se quejaban bastante en internet.
4:48 I can hear the mixture of frustration, sheer confusion and just 'why' feelings in the text
Trueee
Pathetic innit?
God damn, it seems they really hated minorities back then, especially black people
Same…
4:48 Mickey mouse
3:35 the fact that it’s their land is even more disgusting
Nah that's history for you. You either win or you get conquered. They also had brutal wars with neigboring tribes and did some serious scalping, killing and raping. They weren't some noble gentle souls lol. It was pretty much the same in every corner of the world between countries/tribes and it still is in a lot of regions.
I remember watching Dumbo a zillion times when i was little and just LOVING the crows because they moved and danced so well! Never crossed my mind they were "black".
Most don't, or didn't.
same, I was so angry when I found out they were blacks, I hate blacks
Man, I thought those crows were so cool and hip when I was little - they seemed so full of life!
It's not so much that they're black but that the leader is named Jim and is a crow, as in Jim Crow
@@CHURCHBOYCHARLIE now I get it.😮 Thanks! 🙂
As a kid I enjoyed these cartoons but didn't understand these moments. But now that I'm older and I still look back them, I always pay attention to the warning some of them give before watch, which I think really gives a good look at understanding the past:
"The cartoons you are about to see are products of their time. They may depict some of the ethnic and racial prejudices that were commonplace in the U.S. society. These depictions were wrong then and they are wrong today. While the following does not represent the Warner Bros./Disney view of today’s society, these cartoons are being presented as they were originally created, because to do otherwise would be the same as claiming that these prejudices never existed."
Key point: "products of their time". Get over it, okay?
@@conanthegreat4418 do it for the snowflake ppl who want to cancel everything
All the neckbeard youtubers (no bs, the quartering, etc.) seemed to get mad because of the warnings they put.
@@conanthegreat4418 get over the fact the conversation isn't over.
No better way to put it.
The part where Jerry blows into the horn and gets his face blown up, I thought he was supposed to be a flower more than blackface.
me too. I thought he looked like a sunflower
No, it's black face
@@clowntrooper61 i know
Same
@@clowntrooper61 Then clowns and mimes are using whiteface.
“Cheaper by the dozen”-Popeye. Dayum
Damn alot of these I remember as a kid just didnt understand yet
@ZION PATTERSONPopeye one is racist! People in the late 1960s complained about that.. come on dude..
@justine baldwin Nobody is not complaining against a black Barbie doll.. Where in the hell you getting that information from?
All lives matter guys
no not the menace to society blacks
@@th3r3ap3r2
people are feed as soon as they come out the womb
“Cheaper by the dozen”
Alright, Popeye won’t be seen the same way every again.
Ya that was the saddest one for me.
Yeah that clip was another level of fucked up.
That left me shook.
Totally horrible, it gave me goosebumps
Tommy Smith did you mean to say native Africans? I guess the gag was about the saying “cheaper by the dozen” with like donuts, and African slaves were bought in Africa. Also, I’m not saying you think this, but not all African Americans are descendants of slaves a lot have immigrated too meaning it wouldn’t *really* make *that* much sense
A bunch of these feel fairly harmless. However then you come across one of those extremes, like "Cheaper by the dozen"... Holy shit, what were they thinking when they made that?
They were just racist
@@blackvlogs3239 I mean, obviously, but so openly, in media largely aimed towards kids. Even broadcasting it on TV. Those were some strange times.
@@MessedUpBrainspike Lol medias are still like that today.. It's just reversed. I mean CRT, 8 white identities and excluding white people from economic help in California is pretty anti-white..
@@MessedUpBrainspike Is it due to some certain states or just in totality?
@@MMOfreakOUT1 people should just stop being anti something
“Cheaper by the dozen” is actually despicable
Japanese cartoons during the 40s... its more a propaganda thing
Heck they even made fun of the Germans
Wow
Exactly. People need to acknowledge the historical context.
If it's not racist, still xenophobic, (prejudice against other cultures)
Oh!
Mickey mouse is black already, so him wearing the black face is basically like putting a hat on a hat
Wearing two hats, I've done that before.
@@michaeldavidfigures9842 I've put on 3 hats before, I was bored.
@@lochandichabod3084 8
@@beanman4531 what the hell
@@lochandichabod3084 13
There’s a scene in Family Guy where Peter loses Chris at Disneyland and goes into a gift shop and encounters the crows from Dumbo and asks them if they’ve seen his son and they say “No I ain’t seen your boy no how”, and Peter laughs and goes “Aw that’s good ol fashion racism”.
Family Guy is literally offensive to everyone. It's not politically correct so find another example. Family Guy is awesome because of how offensive it is. 🖕🏻🤡
@@No-Lie-I-Want-To-Die family guy hasn’t been offensive to anyone since 2005, GTFOH clown 🤡 😂
Lmao! That's a great scene
Not gunna lie as a black person I laughed at the first one, it’s still heavily racist but it’s so stupid it’s funny.
Yea
That was the point of it in the first place
some are funny and some just seem like horror movie stuff
Then how do you explain your profile picture
@@styloboi6032 it could be a celebrity
I don't know what's more distrubing: that so many characters committed purposeful blackface or that they apparently did so by blowing their face off with dynamite
I remember seeing some Tom and Jerry episodes around 2012 I think on Boomerang and some of the episodes included Mammy Two Shoes before she stopped making any appearances. I didn’t know at the time that she was a racial caricature I always saw Mammy Two Shoes as Tom’s actual owner
Agree, even when Tom, jerry and Spike did get a true owner couple i just thought it was a different timeline
Same, when I saw the movie where Tom and Jerry actually talk to each other and saw the woman's legs when she's talking to someone about the house during the beginning of the movie, I was thinking "Who the heck was this?" ( it was the owner, I think, I just didn't understand who she was in the first place, that always confused me as a kid)
the dumbo song seemed more about slavery in general rather then racism
For the most part, yeah, but then it has lines about them wasting their money, which is a way of justifying the black workers being poorer. That trope in fact still gets used today - ever heard people talk about how "welfare queens" are spending all their money on iPhones and beauty products?
I know
yellowpig 10
How do you figure? They aren’t slaves. They are the poor class working for a tiny paycheck that they will just waste. And clearly the poor laborers who waste their money on booze and drugs are the minorities right? The crows are clearly racist. His name is Jim Crow FFS.
@@roems6396 I've got no defense for the crows, that WAS racist but I think everyone is being too hard on the song. The thing is I'm pretty sure that entire scene was about them being treated like animals, just like dumbo
Slavery was based off racism idiot
4:46 as a kid I thought he was trying to be a sunflower
I still think that. Can you explain me the racist part there? I dont get it
@Envy I am not brainwashed, I just don't understand it. English is not my mother language and I don't understand a single word at 4:37. I did not say that it is not racist, I just don't get it. Why do you blame me instead of explaining it?
I think its cause him with red lips and him wearing black face is the reason why
@Envy
He was talking about the first scene not the obvious other one.
And also stop generalizing every thing
@Envy
He OBVIOUSLY wanted to know about the sunflower part and so do I. What does it symbolize/in what way is that part racist? It seems like the character himself is a racist stereotype but what about the actual sunflower itself?
I'm still waiting for the supposed "racism"
did you hit play?
@@alexk9642waaaah
@@tango1706you commented like 3 times man, get a job right fucking now😂
Mammy Two Shoes was cool
+Neal Wilson I love her sassy tone. Sassiness really works with anything in my book.
i feel she showed black moms in a playful country manner so im ok with it
She was my favorite
I remember seeing her in the old Tom and Jerry DVDs and I thought nothing else about her character.
Colt M4A1 Same here.
if you think about it the Japanese that were portrayed back in the 40s was due to world War 2
I agree
Well obviously
Correct, but that still doesn't make it any less ignorant, especially seeing as how a portion of the American population was Japanese...and also forced into internment camps for no other reason than because they were of Japanese descent.
@@BlackMambaFox they used them as propaganda back then it was just how it was not like now with political correctness like yes its wrong but it was the way of the times you can't just slap it on there and say yeah this is bad even tho it was justified for being in ww2
BlackMambaFox I 100% agree but back then, hating the Japanese was actually considered like politically correct due to the war
I always loved that black woman in Tom and jerry. It was my favorite episode lmao. I always wanted to get all those cool pieces of jewelry she had
watching this cured my racism, thank you so much and god bless.
2:22
The Japanese stereotypes are there because it's a propaganda film.
They flew kamakazi planes into our ships I think they can handle a few cartoons and a few a bombs
Yes, and Amerikkkan propaganda is racist. What’s your point?
@@yazhajohnson254 it's not like they didn't deserve it
@@Komrad_Yuri stfu please i beg
They were murdering and raping their way through Asia at the time. I think a bit of piss taking was appropriate
Mammy Two-Shoes never appeared racist to me.
Sure, she has the "skin tone" animation on her hands; but they didn't use her in any offensive manner. In anything she was one of best personalities of Tom And Jerry. I enjoyed her more than Nibbles and Tyke anyway.
Honestly? She had as much personality as Spike, and he was already a great character.
Why do i see you in like half of UA-cam comments sections
Mammy was a Black woman represented, it's the very opposite of racist.
Even journalists used to point her out as a milestone character in Black representation.
if by best personalities is a naggy, bossy annoyance than sure
@@Conserpovblacks are very sensitive about their black skin. I’m from India and anti-India racism doesn’t bother me at all
@@abdullahal-shimri3091 Bit different, don't you think? It's more like if everyone else in India hated your ethnic group. Black Americans didn't have any "American" solidarity with the rest of the country. It wasn't anti-American racism. It's not even solely anti-black; there are a lot of black people in the world who don't like black Americans.
If you really want to try and empathize, imagine instead that you're from India, you love India, this is your country, but 90% of the rest of your countrymen don't think you're actually one of them. It's not like you belong somewhere else; no other country claims you either. This IS your home, but even in your home you don't feel welcome. And think about the ways that would be different from your real-life experience; maybe you have some assumptions that you start questioning when you think about this again.
To use a really silly example: it's kind of like you're watching the movie Shrek, and thinking "I don't know what Shrek's problem is-- I live among humans and anti-human racism doesn't bother me at all." The community you have makes your experiences not the same. Shrek may even love himself as he is, but that doesn't mean the world does. And you can see how, even if you love yourself as you are, being "very sensitive" about your skin color is more a response to the world you're forced to live in than a reflection on your own values & character. It's not about skin color; it's about being the "other" & everyone treating you that way, from the moment you're born, before you even understand what skin color is.
Not meant to be condescending, I think it's really good that you're using your own experiences to try and understand others across the world. But I hope this helps you think about it differently.
*when you look at the dates they where made in*
Ik, they were probably made in the middle of WW1 or WW2
Obviously. This couldn’t have been made now, for people are too sensitive.
@@flayeddd nah people just know what racist shit looks like. Nowadays, racism should be called out and condemned.
@@Notmynamedontask like peloci pocahontas, and alexandria ocasio blaccent.
@@TwoStageTrigger you're right, but for AOC, she's from the bronx. I don't actually know what they're supposed like tho. But idk, i haven't really seen any media go at her for the accent.
i don't see racism. Only see stereotypes.
LMFOAOAOAOAO WHICH IS RACIST 😂
Same thing
Racism is mainly based on stereotypes
These comments make me uncomfortable
I remember watching these as a kid and having no idea that these racial caricatures were portraying actual people.
Your subconscious knows, and that's why they do it. Be smart and aware.
@@quintonmiller8266 no it doesn't. Kids don't care about this stuff and don't realize it
For the Tom and Jerry scene i always thought them are suppose to disguise to avoid trouble they made and it was funny.. including many other scene
@@quintonmiller8266 Dude, that scene in Tom and Jerry flew COMPLETELY over my head when I saw it as a kid. Children know nothing about racism or racist stereotypes.
Exactly. I didn't grow up a racist. Black people just happen to be black, and Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) just happen to have slanted eyes so what?
CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN?!? whew chileeeeeee
I was laughing my ass off at that one
@@chloeking9008 how is it not funny?
@@chloeking9008 awwwww, poor you. It was a funny joke that was very clever. Just laugh once in a while. I'm Irish and my ancestors were slaves, you don't see me get offended
Chloe King um it's not "finna" its going. Also it's the joke is dark humor. If you keep getting offended over the little racist things. Then you'll never be able to take a joke, because in this day and age dark humor is used very often and black, white, Mexican people are made fun of so... you can't get offended over little things because it’s ridiculous and everyone is just going to be like "it’s just a joke calm down" soo...
Chloe King The key word is when. Back then white people did make fun of blacks, but right now its 2019 not 1965 yes people can still be racist but black people are also racist. Yes back then it was hard to be a black, yes people made fun of blacks, yes people thought less of blacks, but that was back then. Now blacks have a full month of appreciation isn't that amazing? And before you say "well blacks do much harder work" well that’s not true whites work just as hard as blacks. Yes you see those photos of blacks carrying heavy things or they look miserable. The reason they do that is because blacks CHOOSE to be part of that! It's not forced upon them they choose it, and whites work just as hard as that! Lets look at a the president. He wanted to build a boarder and people got mad, because he was being "racist" ,but he was just trying to protect us! Blacks, whites, everyone! He wanted the immigrants out because of drug lords! See now that's just as hard as the blacks he is trying to get everyone to agree with him ,keep his job, keep everyone safe! Thats just as hard as being a black!
I’m black and I grew up in this shit. Even I can’t hate on it, it was a time period thing...
While liberals LOVE to be offended for blacks. They got nothing else going for them.
Pfsif that’s facts tho. Its the same with gays.
I don’t know how I feel that this is my only comment that got more than 2 likes.
none of your fucking business be thankful you didn’t have to grow up in Africa where tribes sneak into other tribes while there sleeping and butcher the shit out of them with machetes while there sleeping.
This comment section is so racist
Crystal Davis yeah I’m thankful as fuck. Good thing that has literally nothing to do with this video or my thoughts on it. Thanks for totally failing to prove a point.
It's so crazy how you never see these things as a kid
Until you're fed up with these by the system?
but Mammy Two shoes was my favorite character!!! she rocked!!
My childhood in 1 sentence
Totally agreed with you.
I agree
I hated her. My mom was 6ft tall thin and a model. Mammy was horrible representative for black women. None of the black women in my family looked or acted like that.
yepu
All of the Japanese cartoons were made in ww2 to make fun of Americas enemies at the time. They were also used to make fun cartoons to help sell war bonds and stamps. (I think)
They did - it's called history folks, just like the statues, they harm no one. PC folks wanna' be offended, take a look at the border invasion, inflation, and the crime stats - those are offensive!
Yes that is true. Even though there was a lot of racism towards Asians before ww2, it really became more prevalent.
Yea if I had a nation and I was at ear with someone
I would make fun of them
True, but that doesn’t justify how racist the Japanese cartoons are. Let’s not forget about the internment camps in America for anyone of Japanese descent. Racism against Japanese people was at its all time high at this point.
@@SamhainBe Every race commits crimes 🤨 And racism should not be used under ANY circumstance. War or not
There’s just something so painful about watching your favorite cartoon characters making fun of your own race. It’s like seeing an old friend of yours suddenly turn against you and reveal a whole other, darker side to them...
Peter Pan made fun of mine. Though, I never liked that movie anyways.
you have to go back
I hate the black faces
Lol
It sucks that as a mexican I would actually like Speedy Gonzalez even if the way he was created and portrayed was wrong. It just happened to be the only representation I saw as a kid
Mammy Two Shoes isn't considered racist, the fact that her face was never drawn and therefore has no depiction of a stereotypical black woman in the 40's.
When you realise most of em are at WW2
Times have changed but trying to cencor or change the past wont help with the problems of today, itll only make it worse.
@@Spartan3D213 The problem is that they were done as propaganda against the Japanese during war time, and they would not be portrayed at that otherwise if they were not at war. The video in no way states this, meaning if you have not memorized the dates WW2 started and ended (1939-1945) you would just think Disney just did that flat out for no reason, when there was a logical reason behind it. That's why I dislike this video because of how misleading it is, not the full video but every WW2 part featuring Disney portaying the Japanese in a " exaggerated " way.
Also everyone knows this video was to just shit on Disney because that's the first thing you think of when you see this. You dont think " Wow this was racially accepted back then?"
you think " WTF HOW COULD DISNEY DO THIS? " Though I dont entirely mind because I have always disliked Disney.
@@Spartan3D213 the people of today wanna censor stuff thats what is worse these videos probably wont be on the internet in 20 years down to political correctness
@@level4youtubepolice201 Tom and Jerry ain't Disney, bub.
@@Sonderwaive Wrong cartoon same argument.
I’m pretty sure at minute 4:46, it was the joke of him looking like a sunflower rather than black face.
ofc it was, but people these days can't seem to think for a second and see racism everywhere
It wasn't. The the big lips of Jerry. Why do they have to make them. Clearly to indicate africans ( they have bigger lips ). (Sorry for bad English)
what about that big lips?
@@baongocnguyenhong5674 his mouth was shut and was very small. There were no big lips, just the area around the mouth (chin and cheeks included) was a different color. Gtfo here with these racist assumptions
@@lambdacode1503 sorry, it's my fault to mistake this scene for another one
I loved Crows, when I was a kid. 😢 They were second characters on a movie who treated Dumbo kindly (mocking him first, but showing kindness later) and looked past his disability.
I've always thought that everyone treated Dumbo poorly not only because of his ears, but because of his kind nature, because he couldn't protect himself and was mute.
No one stood for him apart of that small mouse, that couldn't do anything to protect him, just console him.
I've always had impression that the crows were non-judgemental, supporting and very inspirational towards Dumbo.
Probably, bc he was outcast for everyone like they were at that time.
To me now their short friendship is a symbol of empathy and kindness even in the worst situations, when no one wants you. ❤
The crow leader was still called jim crow
Crows are suppose to be magical and go into other realms.
In some localities, all crows are called Jim. "Jim Crow" just means crow.
The only racist thing i’d agrue is jim’s name jim crow
@@TheVCRTimeMachineI think the racism wasn’t Walt Disney’s intention
The fact there was a group of people who sat down and just took time to animate these ruins me
3:40 man, this is sad.
Yes they were heavy hunks and they got beat up by two sailers
The sign was the worst part
@@ckrager2624 yes, that's what I was talking about. 😔🔫
@@ziagumi yes the worst part that's a bargain
@@WrongNumber76 it's an awesome deal
I literally had my mouth open in disbelief when Popeye put the sign on the guy that said "cheaper by the dozen"...wow
Yeah, most of these didn't make me react much (mostly cause I'd seen most before, and not being too surprised at the level of casual racism they used to throw in) but I'd never seen that one and my jaw nearly hit the floor
Yes it was funny
Keep your mouth closed!
Popeye, no! You can't do that!!!
@@Elel00000 I mean, even I think this "woke" culture is ridiculous but when you see something like this it's pretty blatant
Everyone loved the momma maid from tom and jerry. Keep her out of it lol
@Zeroith Zenith exactly. Idk why ppl are being ignorant
@Zeroith Zenith - But in old cartoons, most people are greatly exaggerated, no matter if they are black, white, or whatever. Look at Fred Flintstone for example - fat, lazy, angry, entitled asshole - you know, a pretty accurate caricature of typical American. ^^' How is the judo instructor, or even the black lady from Tom and Jerry, worse than him? ^^' Granted, some of the cartoons shown in this video were actually racist, but not all of them. It is kinda silly to shout "RACIST!" at everything, even if it is just a harmless caricature or fun exploration of the stereotype or archetype. ^^'
@Chelline R. - No, if she was white, she would look like my grandma, and I will have you know, that my grandma looks adorable. ^^' Also, how can you tell that she would look ugly if we have never seen her face? ^^'
She Deserves Better
Yeah she was cool
It’s funny to me how long It generally takes to make animation, and the animators decided to use their time and money to make scenes and cartoons that haven’t aged well in the slightest.
Shut up
Jerry-
The thumbnail-
What the fuck-
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“Cheaper by the Dozen” made me speechless
Probably the most racist one liner I’ve seen from Popeye’s perspective
Thats was the funniest one. Lol
I don’t understand it can you explain it?
@@justapineapple6243 That line is used in slave ads which means that you can buy two slaves for a price of one. So this line is alluding to the practice of slavery.
MoonChilango that wasn’t funny. It was extremely offensive.
I got to admit even though it’s extremely racist and wrong the Jim “crow” bit was clever
I always thought that the name Jim Crow was used precisely to criticize those laws.
ill agree with this statement here
Read about the "Elephant Fly" song on Wikipedia. The writers, singers, arrangers, musicians, were all black jazz & soul musicians. In those days they didn't get much of a chance at performing in "mainstream" entertainment, so in a way, it was "progress" for them to be able to showcase their talent. Plus the lyrics were pretty clever. & the music really good, & measures up very well today.
I didn’t even know the crows had names at all until a year ago.
@@sideshowbob Yeah, that's what is so cool about them.
Some of these aren’t even racist.
I’m black and I laughed at these cartoons. Grew up watching some of them. Mammy Two Shoes was hilarious
Just because you laughed about it, does that make it okay?
@@notwwwansik just because it's wrong for you doesn't mean it's wrong for me,
as a Japanese descendant of the first Japanese to arrive in Brazil, I was not offended
they’re cartoons
they are made to be laughed at
@@notwwwansik yes it does. Mammy two shoes was the bomb.
@@notwwwansik how is it not ok? what did she ever did wrong that makes it not ok?
yes I'm black too, i can't understand people who see everything as racism.
unless of course the definition of racism have changed and i don't know.
The fact that mickey looks like he's wearing black face
He’s a black mouse alr😭
hi army!!!!
i know 💀💀
@@emmabarela758 BAHAA THATS THE ONLY THING I COULD FOCUS ON! hi armyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
HELLO ARMYY!!!!!
That is what is great about the internet. It keeps a record of this stuff. Don't censor history.
Agreed, good comedy should never be erased
@@markrowley2739 what do u mean good comedy 💀
Ur comments would only support it being censored
What about link rots, which are favoured by Moon the Doomer?
Hope youtube still holds its neutrality, and don't go into SJW site like that other platform 💀
Disturbing? This shit funny as fuck
😂😂😂😂😂
TRUTH
Bro maybe don’t say that
@@stqrryhze they came from instagram just ignore them they have no brain capacity to think like a functional human being
Let's be honest, when we were little, we didn't even think about those moments and just enjoyed watching cartoons. Or is it just that I'm really weird?
Never thought about pepe le pew much either, but i can definitely see the other interpretation
Never thought about it at all. Kids don’t think about racism. It’s these over the top adults who are trying to ruin modern Childrens lives by overreacting to things that shouldn’t even be a problem
@@scarletwarlock3261 so trueee, some people in this comment section are kinda overreacting btw
I’m gonna guess everyone in this thread so far is white
@@randomcandy8209 not anymore
Actually, the Crows in Dumbo were actually one of the most positive characters in the movie. They weren’t lazy, rather, free spirited and were voiced by the Hall Johnson Choir, an all black gospel group. They were meant to be spoofs of entertainment groups at the time
The leader of the crow was voiced by Cliff Edwards (aka Jiminy Cricket) he wasn't African.
@@stephenholloway6893 The rest of the crows were though. They were voiced by the Hall Johnson Choir. Bottom line: They weren’t racist and even the first black animator Walt Disney ever hired stands behind them.
@Teacoon They were that was true just not the leader like I said.
But constantly offended black wokies will never mention it. They know how to be negative only
Good, I'm not the only one who likes them.
These days a lot of people confuse stereotypes with racism.
Gavin Snyder but if you stereotype a races isn't that racism?
If the stereotype is lazy, stupid, ignorant, sneaky, cruel, greedy, racist etc...it affects how you evaluate people different from yourself..
so are Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam positive white role models? Maybe that's the whole reason black people think all white people are dumb and backwards racists,it's Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam! Because how better to demonstrate white supremacy than to make the only popular white characters inept idiots who can't catch a rabbit!!! or am I the only one who realizes it's a damn cartoon??? gangster rap encourages racial harmony,right? haha!😙
Gavin Snyder Stereotypes are nothing more than reputations we or other people create for each other that we can choose to get mad, laugh at, ignore, or change them. I prefer to ignore those who choose the first option. 😊
Evan W No, they think that, because they are (understandably) resentful towards whites for how they were treated in the past and have difficulty letting it go.
Crow is just a bird