Disturbingly Racist Moments in Cartoons
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- Опубліковано 19 лис 2016
- The point of our video is not to promote racism or to make fun of this issue, but to show how pervasive and institutionalized racism was in our culture just a short time ago.
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As a kid I always assumed the black woman was Tom's owner in Tom & Jerry.
Yea
Agreed
Wait, she isn't?
Jade lmfao that’s what I’m saying! What is she then? Is she supposed to be the maid? Omg
She was actually the owner of Tom, you can see it in many episodes like Saturday evening puss
As a kid, I never saw mammy two shoes as a maid. I always thought she was the owner of the house and just always saw the apron as a typical 'house wife' kind of clothing.
She's the owner....she was originally to be a maid but it was changed
They changed Tom's owner to a white lady in the later cartoons.
But to be honest, I never saw that scene where she was getting ready for a night out. I know women today who put on the bangle bracelets and the stoplight necklace to "GO" when it's time to go clubbing😝
Me too and I’m mexican, no racism over here
I always loved when an episode of Tom and Jerry came on with her in it, wanted to give her a big hug. She reminded me of a mother figure, always disciplining Tom. I also assumed she was Toms owner.
Same
I loved Crows, when I was a kid. 😢 They were second characters on a movie who treated Dumbo kindly (mocking him first, but showing kindness later) and looked past his disability.
I've always thought that everyone treated Dumbo poorly not only because of his ears, but because of his kind nature, because he couldn't protect himself and was mute.
No one stood for him apart of that small mouse, that couldn't do anything to protect him, just console him.
I've always had impression that the crows were non-judgemental, supporting and very inspirational towards Dumbo.
Probably, bc he was outcast for everyone like they were at that time.
To me now their short friendship is a symbol of empathy and kindness even in the worst situations, when no one wants you. ❤
The crow leader was still called jim crow
Crows are suppose to be magical and go into other realms.
In some localities, all crows are called Jim. "Jim Crow" just means crow.
Me too loved watching the crows, never thought any such thing.
The only racist thing i’d agrue is jim’s name jim crow
3:40 CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN? AWWW HELL NAH 💀💀💀
I died laughing 😂 😂 😂
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That was the most shocking one imo.
Almost justifies the white male bashing seen these days
bruh i dont get it, how is that racist? Is it because is said "Cheaper by the dozen" and that was what happened to native Americans?
To those who don’t know: mammy two shoes was at first indeed as a black maid, but they later changed to her actually being the owner of the house (and Tom)
I thought it was the other way around; she was originally portrayed as Tom's owner, but then due to the stereotype being considered offensive they replaced her with a white woman character.
"actually"
Honestly, she was my favourite character. I thought she was the owner and I frickin loved her so much.
I understand why they'd wanna remove her, but at the same time I think it's important to own up to mistakes and be aware of history rather than just erase it.
Also it seems kinda demeaning to remove a prominent black character and replace her with a white one smh
How do you know this?
@@Ravie3 Back when they still were on t.v. in the episode SATURDAY EVENING PUSS they switched her as a slim white woman
It’s weird how you never notice things like this as a child
@John Exum who the hell uses the term "hippie" lmao fucking racist boomer
panic! in 1975 my boy tried to make some up when he started losing the argument 😂😂
John Exum
I get what you are saying but it’s not that people are born to be racist. The evolutionary defense mechanism you’re referring to is there to have the brain automatically group things into categories in order for fast identification of safe things and dangerous things. It leads to you knowing how to specify what berries are good and what to look out for if they can be bad. This trait incidentally can spark racism but not cause it. It’s just an old but technically still potentially useful biological trait that in a entirely different setting from its development can be misused.
John Exum
Well now that you say it like that yes I can see it working in that way to some capacity. However I feel racism wouldn’t solve that issue. So though the mechanisms may work in this way to identify a problem, racism isn’t the solution to it. Perhaps working to better understand why the issue is occurring and avoiding it or resolving it is best.
@John Exum
Over all I don’t agree with what you are saying.
There is always going to be conflict it, could be between entirely species! I don’t see how this directly means multiculturalism is what leads to conflict, rather conflict is always present no matter the color, race, or species.
Yes multiculturalism probably does benefit some people more then others.
Yes I do not think racism can be eliminated but at least mitigated and minimized.
Segregation would not do either it it would simply mask and ignore it as well as further encourage it.
“White” is a very loose term. Depending on who’s in favor and more powerful they are the ones who make the determination. At one point the Irish, Italians, Germans, weren’t considered white, today we wouldn’t blink an eye at that. The entire European continent is more diverse then we classify it in modern times under blanket terms.
I think the European continent is a example of multiculturalism can work, but as I said previously there is always conflict it has a lot more factors then just race.
“Alright one more video before I go to bed.”
The video:
No one cares what time you go to bed
@@James-kv6kbNo
@@James-kv6kb bruh...
@@lucasdaniel8902 it would seem you're not able to communicate unless its one word
There's nothing racist about Mammy Two-Shoes. It's just a black lady speaking AAVE who owns a cat. I remember thinking as a kid that it was progressive of them to choose this black lady cat owner who's strong, independent, wise and owns a house. She was portrayed with a lot of respect I thought. The only racism I see is people calling her a racist character, making all these bizarre connections.
Yes, If one has to EXPLAIN WHY they deem something or someone is "racist", THEY are the true RACISTS.
And she was voiced by a black actress.
her name is MAMMY two shoes??
The name my guy
the word mammy
is slang for a black women who have to take care of white children
usually the black women was enslaved for this role.
Growing up as a black kid i loved tom and Jerry's mammy because i remember not seeing too many black characters if any
Exactly.
I loved her as well.
She was the 1st Tall vampire lady
I love black people because they're beautiful and Pretty!
@@CapriMarnelle_Official yes ✨
I know most of the Japanese characters where portrayed like this because of WW2 and them being America’s enemy
I know most of the Jewish characters were portrayed like this because of ww2 and Hitler not liking them.
I'd say it was pretty justified at that point in history.
There's a reason why the Japanese were called the "Asian Nazis".
@@notallopinionswerecreatede4465 The Japanese were very cruel and also had their own kind of racial theories as the Nazis
Propaganda
And it wasn't a one-sided thing either; the first anime feature film was a propoganda film promoting the power of the Japanese military and ends with them defeating and children playing with parachutes as they land in america
An interesting fact is that the Jewish wolf gag was toned down due to...certain events that took place in between 1939 and 1945
I’m assuming you’re talking about the 1945 anti-Jewish riots in Cairo (jk, I know what the H0l0cau$t is)
I remember seeing all these cartoons as a child and I never equated any of these scenes and or moments as racist. Yet I can see how these can be hurtful to some but I think before that can happen, someone usually much older, has to inform said child of its "racist" quotient.
Very true
Of course you didn't associate, you were just a Kid!
I thought the woman from tom and jerry was cool...
Yeah, she was a stereotype, that's not an insulting thing, any more than having an Aussie stereotype with an acubra hat and a boomerang saying "mate" all the time. I'm an Australian and we think it's funny. Stereotypes aren't harmful per se, it's the intent behind it that matters. The reason you thought she was cool, is because she WAS a cool character.
Clint Hobson Here,here.
Michael Jenner
I called my black friends older sister ( Mammy ) I pissed her off and ripped into me but Butch saved me.
About (10 )
Clint Hobson yea there’s a fine line between stereotype and racist
@ No. I always thought she was a chill character. Skin color doesn't matter to me. I suppose it's her personality.
Hearing Mickey being racist is like if Mr. Rogers joined the KKK.
Well walt disney was also rasict so that kinda explains it
@@taliyahh6375 how do u know?
@@levymcgarden9117 I know he didn't like Jews, but that's not racist. People like the dumb bitch above you lump in all prejudice as "racism"
@Chris Blackwell you're clearly the idiot for thinking that Judaism is a race hahaha
@@oneenglishbastard87 It’s not racist, but it is religious harassment
Hey, if you really wanted to impress me you would have included the one where Foghorn Leghorn, referring to Henery Hawk, says, "That, boy, I say, that boy's so dumb, he thinks a Mexican border pays rent!"
If he had said Canadian border the joke would have worked just as well only people in later times wouldn't be calling it out as racist.
I saw "black face Micky mouse" and thought ' how could they do that? He's a black mouse?' but they somehow actually managed it 💀
😵😵😵
🤣😂😂
Nigga mouse clubhouse
@@dan182v lmaooo
I dont think it was blackface because these episodes were made are New York not the south I dont see any racism
Growing up and seeing these in the 90's and with no opinion toward race or any knowledge of racist stereotypes I never thought of any of these as racist. To me it was all general cartoon ridiculousness.
Racism is taught, not inherited.
You also didnt have the historical context to understand the stereotypes being portrayed, and how those people were treated at that time.
@@joehill4094 yeah true, if I was a kid and saw these I wouldn’t understand the context since if you were a kid you probably didn’t know what racism was or stereotypes of race were (well not only just race but sometimes with disabilities too like for example with Sia’s recent movie called Music where she made the autistic girl a huge stereotype of autistic people/people on the spectrum) so I can’t blame the kids at the time didn’t understand what the meaning is cause they are kids.
These weren’t aired in the 90’s except for like Peter Pan, most of these were taken out of television around the time u were prolly born so how the hell did u see them
Exactly, and knowing this is fiction, not reality, that logic didn't apply. I was still fully aware of the dark parts of history. The way I see it, it's racist to call it racist. If these characters' colours were changed it would suddenly be appropriate? In works which include talking animals and magic, a character's colour is the least of my concern. These characters are engaging in some comic violence, if anything, some of which may also be inappropriate by modern standards. (Apply kids' logic from South Park's flag episode.)
@@dillonthevillon3719 probably he was not in America
I never even realised the woman in tom and jerry had a specific race, being from Europe where these things are not even a thing. Now I get on twitter and see all sorts of racist bullshit and I'm like, bruh.
Where is the racism
I actually loved mammy in tom and jerry.... She owned her own house. She was shinning from the chest down... I dont know why people are saying she wasnt toms owner... even in the clip they told her that there was a wild party at HER house. Tom was clearly her cat.
@@CoolGreySoul the episode where Tom gets replaced with a robot cat, everything she says completely implies Tom was *her* cat.
I always appreciated mammys ways. Her strength and style is pretty accurate and proud for a woman of her time. Something very warm about her, would feel safe and protected with her as a caregiver. No nonsense kind of love.
CoolGreySoul CoolGreySoul I think that u r the racist in this case. U are that type that see racism in every cartoon with a black character and if the cartoon doesn’t have any black characters, that’s racist too. It’s pretty funny how you pk folks think. Mammy in Tom & jerry had her own house, she was wearing loads of jewelry do u think that’s racist too? If they had portrayed her as poor you would have been still angry anyway.
I know there is a difference between being racist and stereotyping people. But I'm confused about what it is
@@CoolGreySoul how am I putting words in your mouth? You outright just told someone "what you said is wrong". There's no other way to read that. Yes, subtle racism IS a thing and it WAS common in old cartoons like these, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
I’m pretty sure everyone remembers the black mom from Tom and jerry, and her ability to run as fast as a super car if there is a party being thrown.
Oh yeah! The way she dealt with Tom and had zero patience for his stupidity was absolutely hilarious! I can still hear her shouting, “THOMAS!!!”
@@missagente8100 ik lol
I didn't even know it was racist💀
You mean black “Mammy”
@@nothisispatrick1797 tbf I thought none of these were racist when I first watched them. I still don't get the red face one
It's so crazy how you never see these things as a kid
I always thought the wolf was trying to be a scientist in the three little pigs
Not gonna lie, I loved that black mammy growing up. Especially how she'd chew-out the cat and holler at him, "THOMAS!!!!"
Yes🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣
indeed, good ol times
😭
Rick Ramos LOL. Me too! Yeah, the portrayal was racist, but it was still funny. JASPER!!! GET OUT!! O-U-W-T OUT!!!! LOL!!!
If you catch any of those episodes now, they use a different voice for mammy and they've edited out scenes I guess were too racist to show these days.
showin&tellin speakin&spellin
Liking a character doesn’t make you racist. I’m sure now they know it was racist but didn’t when they were a kid. Don’t be one of those people who call people racist when they did nothing.
Sometimes we forget how much cocaine there was on Coca-Cola that time.
I wish there still was!!!
You mean 1/400th the amount to get you high? Whatchu thinkin headass lmfao I was almost none.
@@shadic187 i wanna know how is mickey mouse racist, i mean isn't it normal to call another black dude friday. i mean mickey is both white and black.
@@mdasrayn1390 yes it's really no sense. In these times not just the nazis but all were racist,and i guess that the fact of Walt Disney was a member of the usa nazism party make it worse.
@@nigstar1239 IDK why people think saying the N word as slang is ok but not calling another blakc dude friday ok
I am not offended by Yosemite Sam. I see him as a perfectly normal depiction of a southern white male.
Disturbing where?
The Tom and jerry “mammy” episodes we’re still played early 2000 on Cartoon Network. I remember them.
i had the whole tom and jerry series on dvd and i remember that episode
I DO TOO!!!
Yes and it’s a shame that the early work of of African American actors and voice actors has completely been disrespected and thrown away like their work didn’t count. How is that “just?” It’s a shame! Those were the pioneers, sadly, and even more sadly, their work will no longer be seen or heard.
Same
and they were funny as hell
Did anyone ever have a problem with mammy two shoes...
I grew up watching this show and she was an absolute queen
x_fxck_itzz_devin_x bring back Mammy :’( she was a wonderful lady.
I'm hip, I never thought mammy was racist, she was funny too
Mammy was a badass.
She was basically Tom’s boss, reprimanding him when he slacks/dozes off in his mouse hunting job
As a kid I never thought it was racist. I saw it as empowering, that a black person like her could also be a boss to someone
Even though she was a maid, she was a badass. Nobody got close to bossing her around
Jasmine Cruz was she ever a maid?from what I remember, in most episodes she owned the house
She was and still is a queen! All she wanted to do was to keep the house cleen
This is humor, not racism.
I never had a problem with Mammy two shoes.
Sure she spoke in a very caricaturish way, but in the end she was the boss of Tom and was never seen as weak.
She was te baddest bitch on the show i just wish the history of this all wasnt so dark
IggyTthunders So..... All black people are from the south?
@@somethingcreativ235 Are you unaware that the vast majority of Blacks in America originated from the South? And that Southerners have a specific way of speaking? Or have you just never heard someone Southern, and working class, speak?
@MoSSad Jewish CIA Prove it.
IggyTthunders Lmao what? All blacks? Majority is not all. And it’s probably way less than that.
There’s a scene in Family Guy where Peter loses Chris at Disneyland and goes into a gift shop and encounters the crows from Dumbo and asks them if they’ve seen his son and they say “No I ain’t seen your boy no how”, and Peter laughs and goes “Aw that’s good ol fashion racism”.
Family Guy is literally offensive to everyone. It's not politically correct so find another example. Family Guy is awesome because of how offensive it is. 🖕🏻🤡
@@No-Lie-I-Want-To-Die family guy hasn’t been offensive to anyone since 2005, GTFOH clown 🤡 😂
I get some of this is just blatant racism but I never saw Tom's owner in Tom and Jerry was racist. She was a black woman, played by a black woman. The clothes she wore were normal at the time and she even owned copious amounts of jewelry living in a suburban home. Seems way ahead of its time considering that was the 40s and 50s.
LuBu4u Mammy herself is a black stereotype type. Not just this Mammy character, any Mammy character.
@@alexdestler3059 Being a single middle class to upper middle class black suburban homeowner was absolutely not a stereotype for black women in the 1940s. Didnt think this had to be clarified. Lmao.
LuBu4u You’re correct but she is still Mammy. They still used the Mammy stereotype. I’m not personally offended as a black person, I just wanted to clarify that even if it isn’t the full stereotype it is still Mammy.
@@alexdestler3059 Yeah TV especially cartoons is full of stereotypes I dont think anyone forgot she was a Mammy though even if its only in voice and (I guess) body weight.
LuBu4u
She wasn’t his owner. She was the maid. And the jewelry scene was mocking maids for wearing all of their boss’s jewelry when she wasn’t home. Basically it was promoting the stereotype that the maid will go through your private things when you aren’t at home.
Most of these don't really seem racist or negative stereotype😂
The way I don't see how a lot of these are racist makes me feel horrible ..
I really thought the black women in Tom and jerry was the house owner
I am too!
In the Filmation ones she was, but it was a much more toned down version. These were from the early 80s and were not very popular.
Me too
@Edits ...
she is
I watched a lot of these cartoons when I was younger. As an Asian who grew up in Asia, I never understood any of the stereotypes. In fact, I didn't even know those were racial stereotypes. I also didn't even know that Mammy Two Shoes was a maid and always thought she was the house owner.
Same
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These are hilarious if you get offended then you shouldn’t watch comedy because thats what comedy is for it’s for making fun of people in a joking sense not in a racism sense.
This cartoons are better than the actuals
The Popeye one was the one that hit everyone in the gut Jesus 💀
Na not really it's just funny
@@codyleslie478 yeah I will admit it was funny but thats some beyond racist shit😂
yeah the ending holy shit 😭
@Alxekaモッカ bruh watch the video im not giving u the damn timeline 😂
@Kamikaze PG my pfp is holy
The moment the bomb exploded on Jerry's face I always thought it showcased him as a sunflower. Little did I know...
Same bro
@@Jaceareeno Seriously. They're trying to make everything seem racist.
@@unluckyphantom3356 plus they make it seem as if racism only occurs for black people and asians
Edit: A lot of people are accusing me of being white and saying white people don’t experience racism, and while those comments may be correct I wasn’t specifically talking for white people, people of all ethnicities experience racism, and just because a few cartoons made minor mistakes that the creator of the video needs to point out, and because of the specific timing of the making of the cartoons, doesn’t mean anything.
@@cole9590 you sound ignorant white ppl don’t experience racism if that’s what you are tryna say and the creator never said only black and Japanese go through it so does Mexican etc
@@miyaadabae_6618 so your saying every race except white people can be treated racistly
The pop eye one was just crazy
Yes, some of these are racist and 'insensitive', but there are also alot of things in this video that aren't necessarily racist at all, and some people are simply being overly sensitive about something that's not even racist, looking into things too much, with a false and misunderstood conclusion about the artists narrative behind such pieces of art.
At the end of the day, it's all freedom of speech and freedom of expression.
Not going to lie, never thought much of the black face jokes in Tom and Jerry. I just they were just burnt. :P
and thats the thing about stereotypes and racism. not thinking/questioning and just taking it as you saw it. as a kid i never thought anything about it, until you are an adult and white people look down on black people and suggesting them eating watermelon and keeping out of "mature" business.
@@MoKVidel you actually have to be looking for racism to actually see the subtleties. if you think a cartoon can actually convince someone black people are just burnt people you have a disability in the brain.
@@marioisawesome8218
That's not the point, idiot. To portray black people like that is just disrespectful. If I made a cartoon and exaggerated the Neanderthal features many white people have then you'd have a problem. White people can't take racism but can dish it out all day everyday then act oblivious and play victim.
I also thought that the explosion burned their face 😄
Also, in our culture, there's nothing wrong at all in being black, so I never thought they were mocking the Africans.
Im black and I thought that too when i was very young but at around the age of 7-8 I learned what black face was and looking back at all those episodes all i can say is WHAT THE FUCK TOM AND JERRY!??
C'mon, I'm dark-skinned and I always thought Mammy Two-Shoes was best part!
Johanna Anuar look at gone with the wind , she was cool.
right, she was a major black cartoon character of the times.
the entire country didn't walk on eggshells back then in fear a wrong word or expression would come out
gee I wonder why that was? because blacks back then didn't have much right back then ya fuckin' genius.
I enjoyed the black cooks chasing The Three Stooges with cleavers.
Get over it as a kid I never thought anything bad about it. Stop victimizing us as minorities
The sad part is the fliesher brothers, known for popeye, betty boop, bimbo, and koko weren’t racist at first. They’d include black singers and at one point made betty a darker skin tone
1945: I'm Japanese, I drink gasoline and blow myself up
2019: I'm Japanese, I play Nintendo, watch anime and eat sushi
Shigeru Miyamoto is a force to be reckoned with.
DJ Mutt bout to report this to the ceo of racism buckaroo
"And ill also would win first in a game "
2020: I'm japanese, i have CoRoNaViRuS.
@Giorno Giovanna the coronavirus didn’t originate from Japan, it originated from China cause an animal had a disease and spread it to a small town, it was no one’s fault besides the people who knew they had it and still traveled.
Am I the only one who wondered how they had such smooth animation in the 30s??
Wo dared? Wtf are u saying
@@donutdiggs7348 wondered lmao omg
Its smooth because its hand drawn they draw it frame by frame thats how all the old Disney movies got made
@@bux68 how long did that take?
@@volsdeep1187 the last hand drawn movie by Disney was princess and the frog and it look 3 and a half years so all those Disney movies made back in the 1900 must have taken double that amount of time
1:37 remember; if disney copyrights this, it's canon
I respectfully disagree. I saw the crows in Dimbo as just average blue collar , working class dudes.. who. are birds anyway.. I think its more rascist to say ' They are black , and therefore were mocking black people " thats insipidly literal minded and dumb.
They were just some birds.
I did not see a single thing at all like when its ' minstrel ' performance. Those are too cringy to watch. Smh.
Terrible thing to do. Black folks are awesome!
I thought the black women was tom and Jerry’s owner
She was. There's nothing racist about that. The whiny white lib who made this probably secretly hated black women.
Charlotte Rawlins No she was not their owner. She was a mammy which was cultural stereotype where Black women were portrayed as loud, uneducated housekeepers.
@@daytradernupe then why do she can wear that much groceries in Puss Get The Boots
@@trawlins396 You missed the whole point. it was the stereotypes of a black woman not the fact if she was the owner or not
Robert Morneau Did you miss the point? The guy didn’t say it wasn’t a stereotype. He literally just said she was his owner
when i saw Tom n Jerry have explosions and they had the black face i just thought it was soot.... honestly, a racist thought never entered my mind... (im not white)
You shouldn't have to use "I'm not white" to prove that you're aren't racist.
Tom nigga Jerry get it tom n jerry
Bungus McBean it’s 2019 if you say one thing that’s not accusing whites people of being trash or racist then you “must be white and racist” by default. At this point I know more racist black people then I do white. Shame tbh
What are you fucking talking about? Depicting blacks as only racial stereotypes as we see above is what’s racist. Why would you bring up explosions and the soot?? That has nothing to do with black people and those episode aren’t banned
BNKS you know more racist black people!? Impossible. Black people do not gain from being racist. Only white people do. White people are usually in the position of power. Systematic racism is real. And it is reflected upon by the disparities regarding wealth, income, criminal justice, employment, healthcare, political power, education and many many more.
Just what is so disturbing about cartoon content that was created 75 or more years ago?! You are wasting your time obsessing over this when the real threat is your own Government.
I had never noticed Jewish stereotypes in the big bad wolf
I never saw the crows in Dumbo as racist. As a kid I found them kinda cool.
Not to mention the fact that they were actually willing to help Dumbo
Also, Jim Crow's name was changed to "Dandy" a few years later, but unfortunately it did not become popular, and the other four crows were dubbed by African-American actors.
Me neither
crows are black no other color
Sebastian Brinkmann They were the SHIT!
2:16 the reason they depict a Japanese soldier that way was because of Propanganda reasons.
And 3:15
Go to the World War II museum in New Orleans (fabulous I might add - and I’m from Canada). They have all kinds of racist Japanese cartoon depictions of Americans on display there as well. They were ubiquitous in propaganda on both sides.
@@midnightrambler7716 I love war time propaganda! I might go and check it out. And I even wondered how the Japanese thought of us in WW2.
@@uss-missouri Highly recommended. I have never seen anything like it. It’s housed in about 5 or 6 separate huge buildings and one, the George HW Bush aviation gallery with full sized actual B-17E Flying Fortress My Gal Sal, B25 Mitchell, Vought F4U Corsair and a P51 Mustang etc. all hanging on display.
That Popeye clip is crazy bro 💀. It’s so funny tho
Interesting, you know? For the latin version of the Dumbo song there is a line where they say "Por que no quisimos estudiar" (Because we didn't wanted to study) here in Mexico was never interpretated as black laborers, it was more like "Boy, if you dont study you will end up as a low payed worker almost like an slave".
Mijo speedy gonzalez and pepe lepou mexico and france
Jaja como me fregaba mi papá cada vez que veíamos esa película con esa escena "si no estudias vas a acabar así"
@@AlejandroKar98k Coño sí, hermano. Con papá era imposible ver esa película, siempre el mismo cuento.
Pero como chillabamos con la mamá de Dumbo
They really just called me an orange picker😭
si, recuerdo que ni habia visto el color de piel, simplemente creia que era de noche y estaba todo oscuro jaja.
Para mi simplemente eran personas trabajando en friega, igual los pajaros nunca los vi racista.
Me entere de todo eso hasta que vi que los gringos se quejaban bastante en internet.
3:40 man, this is sad.
Yes they were heavy hunks and they got beat up by two sailers
The sign was the worst part
@@ckrager2624 yes, that's what I was talking about. 😔🔫
@@ziagumi yes the worst part that's a bargain
@@WrongNumber76 it's an awesome deal
You realise Japan had been invading many countries and attacked Pearl Harbor? Of course they weren't going to be depicted favorably.
That's still racism
3:25 I can confirm as an Asian this how we talk to each other.
I’m from India btw🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
😂😂😂😂😂
Never found any of these racist,and tbh,in my opinion,people need to be less sensitive. They need to realize almost everything here are jokes that shouldn't be taken seriously. They want to create drama for anything
really? the black centaur cleaning the white centaurs is supposed to be a joke?
@@pranav_k__ ALMOST everything
2:46 I never noticed it was only black dudes working and how dark the song was when I was younger
I realized that it was only black dudes when i around about 9 or 10.
I never cared if the song was racist but I enjoyed it
It seems dumbo didn't as well! Look at his face he looks happy!
I kind of have some mixed feelings about this song 😅
To be honest I couldn’t really hear what they were saying when I last saw this movie
Censorship makes whole generations forget history.
I believe all of it needs to be left for posterity.
Liberals would agree otherwise, apparently being "politically correct" to them is more important than being historically correct.
yes because kids will take showing other races as inferior and evil totally like an adult would
e: opinion has altered a little. im only ok with this censorship depending on what it may be, like i wouldn’t censor the crows.
Yes and no... Left to be studied in college history-class regarding racism? Yes! Left to be watched by children not knowing any better, or to be watched for the amusement of racists? No!
@@baardkopperud
Left out in the open. For all to see and determine for themselves what is right or wrong. Not confined to college classes. Information can be misused even in college classes.
Yup fuck censorship. Liberals are a fucking disease and the reason racism exists. They need to be eradicated
not disturbingly racist for me
Mammy Two Shoes isn't considered racist, the fact that her face was never drawn and therefore has no depiction of a stereotypical black woman in the 40's.
In Brazil everyone knows Mammy two shoes as "Dona do Tom" (Tom's owner)
Everyone thought of her as their owner. To be honest, even I did. But I guess we were all wrong
I also thought the same
@Marcus Straya if you think that than you’re as big of a fucking idiot as these animators
Growing up in Korea, watching this cartoon, I also thought the same. We were just innocent kids who couldn’t think otherwise.
@@sophiesartwork4729 she was a maid then made the owner.
“Cheaper by the dozen”
Alright, Popeye won’t be seen the same way every again.
Ya that was the saddest one for me.
Yeah that clip was another level of fucked up.
That left me shook.
Totally horrible, it gave me goosebumps
What does cheaper by the dozen even mean in this context? If it were African Americans that would make sense but native Americans were sold too?
I never thought the crow characters in Dumbo were a racist portrayal. They have the best song and become Dumbo's friends. Calling him "Jim Crow" is just a dumb little pun and is hardly racist, even though those laws thwmselves absolutely were.
Tom and Jerry also has two scenes both involving Tom ends up looking like some old Chinese hermit, along with some Asian-esque music... with one of them is used in "Ching Cheng Hanji" meme
I remember watching Dumbo a zillion times when i was little and just LOVING the crows because they moved and danced so well! Never crossed my mind they were "black".
Most don't, or didn't.
same, I was so angry when I found out they were blacks, I hate blacks
Man, I thought those crows were so cool and hip when I was little - they seemed so full of life!
It's not so much that they're black but that the leader is named Jim and is a crow, as in Jim Crow
@@CHURCHBOYCHARLIE now I get it.😮 Thanks! 🙂
These days a lot of people confuse stereotypes with racism.
Gavin Snyder but if you stereotype a races isn't that racism?
If the stereotype is lazy, stupid, ignorant, sneaky, cruel, greedy, racist etc...it affects how you evaluate people different from yourself..
so are Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam positive white role models? Maybe that's the whole reason black people think all white people are dumb and backwards racists,it's Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam! Because how better to demonstrate white supremacy than to make the only popular white characters inept idiots who can't catch a rabbit!!! or am I the only one who realizes it's a damn cartoon??? gangster rap encourages racial harmony,right? haha!😙
Gavin Snyder Stereotypes are nothing more than reputations we or other people create for each other that we can choose to get mad, laugh at, ignore, or change them. I prefer to ignore those who choose the first option. 😊
Evan W No, they think that, because they are (understandably) resentful towards whites for how they were treated in the past and have difficulty letting it go.
Well, will there be any disadvantages?
I’ve watched Dumbo 100 times and never realized that the ‘roustabouts” were supposed to be Black, primarily because their faces were hidden and the focus was more on the title character. As for the crows, they are the first characters in the movie (other than the mouse) not to scorn Dumbo, and they helped him realize his full potential. And I loved that they were there at the end during his ‘victory ride’ on the train with his mama.
Not to mention they didn't sound at all like black people when they sang.
Also, even if they are probably black, the whole intent of the scene was a "cry for help" of disney's animators against Walt and the poor paychecks. if i'm not wrong when Dumbo was in production there was one of the biggest strikes in Hollywood and animators used this scene to portray how they feel about their job.
Japanese cartoons during the 40s... its more a propaganda thing
Heck they even made fun of the Germans
Wow
Exactly. People need to acknowledge the historical context.
If it's not racist, still xenophobic, (prejudice against other cultures)
Oh!
Not gunna lie as a black person I laughed at the first one, it’s still heavily racist but it’s so stupid it’s funny.
Yea
That was the point of it in the first place
some are funny and some just seem like horror movie stuff
Then how do you explain your profile picture
@@styloboi6032 it could be a celebrity
I'm sorry, but as someone who actually watched Dumbo without some present-day person telling me what it means, I never got any sense that the crows were supposed to promote segregation. If anything the movie had a whiff of social commentary on how they're kept separate and why the crows are able to empathize with Dumbo being an outcast.
That's the 1948 reanimated version of the wolf in Three Little Pigs. The original 1933 version is far worse. With oversized glasses, a long beard, and an enormously long nose.
The part where Jerry blows into the horn and gets his face blown up, I thought he was supposed to be a flower more than blackface.
me too. I thought he looked like a sunflower
No, it's black face
@@clowntrooper61 i know
Same
@@clowntrooper61 Then clowns and mimes are using whiteface.
As a kid I enjoyed these cartoons but didn't understand these moments. But now that I'm older and I still look back them, I always pay attention to the warning some of them give before watch, which I think really gives a good look at understanding the past:
"The cartoons you are about to see are products of their time. They may depict some of the ethnic and racial prejudices that were commonplace in the U.S. society. These depictions were wrong then and they are wrong today. While the following does not represent the Warner Bros./Disney view of today’s society, these cartoons are being presented as they were originally created, because to do otherwise would be the same as claiming that these prejudices never existed."
Key point: "products of their time". Get over it, okay?
@@conanthegreat4418 do it for the snowflake ppl who want to cancel everything
All the neckbeard youtubers (no bs, the quartering, etc.) seemed to get mad because of the warnings they put.
@@conanthegreat4418 get over the fact the conversation isn't over.
No better way to put it.
Cant we just accept that times were different back
They were better*
I wish I could be around a century from now when all the icons of today's Marxist left are erased because they used and promoted products manufactured by slaves. Slave in China. Slaves in Africa mining the cobalt in the electric car batteries. Drove electric cars made by a guy who grew up in Apartheid Africa.
As we age, all things become transparent to our minds having us to see things as they are, anyways, I am not surprised about the influence television has on kids, it's disappointing
I’m black and I grew up in this shit. Even I can’t hate on it, it was a time period thing...
While liberals LOVE to be offended for blacks. They got nothing else going for them.
Pfsif that’s facts tho. Its the same with gays.
I don’t know how I feel that this is my only comment that got more than 2 likes.
none of your fucking business be thankful you didn’t have to grow up in Africa where tribes sneak into other tribes while there sleeping and butcher the shit out of them with machetes while there sleeping.
This comment section is so racist
Crystal Davis yeah I’m thankful as fuck. Good thing that has literally nothing to do with this video or my thoughts on it. Thanks for totally failing to prove a point.
3:35 the fact that it’s their land is even more disgusting
i don't see racism. Only see stereotypes.
the dumbo song seemed more about slavery in general rather then racism
For the most part, yeah, but then it has lines about them wasting their money, which is a way of justifying the black workers being poorer. That trope in fact still gets used today - ever heard people talk about how "welfare queens" are spending all their money on iPhones and beauty products?
I know
yellowpig 10
How do you figure? They aren’t slaves. They are the poor class working for a tiny paycheck that they will just waste. And clearly the poor laborers who waste their money on booze and drugs are the minorities right? The crows are clearly racist. His name is Jim Crow FFS.
@@roems6396 I've got no defense for the crows, that WAS racist but I think everyone is being too hard on the song. The thing is I'm pretty sure that entire scene was about them being treated like animals, just like dumbo
Slavery was based off racism idiot
4:48 I can hear the mixture of frustration, sheer confusion and just 'why' feelings in the text
Trueee
Pathetic innit?
God damn, it seems they really hated minorities back then, especially black people
Same…
4:48 Mickey mouse
fun fact: no minority group was ever really offended nor felt threatened by these depictions, in fact they all laughed it off as this was the "representation" of back then. just goes to show how pampered and wussied-out people have become throughout the decades
People are way to sensitive these days, most of these are harmless jokes.
i still remember the exploding sunflower episode and being confused why jerry had HUGE PINK lips from an explosion as a kid......damm...
i was basically saying it was a racist stereotype, i ain’t a racist and anyone who’s racist needs to get a fucking life and stop.
@@featheredfreaks I don't think he's calling you racism he was just giving an answer ^~^
it’s not just the blackfacing aspect of it, but the lips as well. even in a cartoon, realistically the entire face would be black from the soot and shit. not pink
I remember that too
@@featheredfreaks imo not really racist. Just a playful stereotype..
There were a lot of dark jokes like this back then, and they all seemed like more playful jabs at stereotypes than racism. People are just being a little too sensitive (not saying you are).
anyone notice how when mickey puts on that hat (nappy hair), its a reference to the black doll saying "mammy" in Santa workshop
0:55 4:47 they were also made not to far apart in time.
The "Mammy" reference is also attributed to a lot of the Vaudeville black shows that happened as well. It was certainly a popular stereotype that happened in several different cartoons.
They censored 0:55 on Disney plus.
I didn’t get this one why is it so racist is it Bc the black doll did it by herself and the white one needed help and I don’t get the three little pigs one and those are half I don’t get and I’m 10 years old so I don’t know some of theese.
@@naycurry2293It’s racist because of how the black doll is still just a Jim Crow caricature, Pitch Black face with huge bright lips with its hair tied in bows and wearing funny clothes and acting all silly, as well as the stereotypical “mammy” line.
@@PanickedThoughts mfs at Disney make me pay for their streaming service and then make me pay an extra $30 to see one new movie with a subpar rating.
I found out today that the first ever sound cartoon came in 1926 before Steambkat Willie (beating it by 2 years as the first sound cartoon, and 3 years before the first talking cartoon character as there is a character who speaks a line in the beginning) and I will not say the name, but it is named after a song with extremely racist and stereotypical lyrics and even features that song for most of the cartoon.
boohoo
@@lampter6944 🤓🤓🤓
What's it called?
I don't think I ever realized the roustabouts in Dumbo were black. The scene's so dark skin color didn't register. Also as a kid I was unaware of racist stereotypes, so the same goes for the crows.
Same I loved Dumbo and the story. I still love the character Dumbo but it’s horrible how they made black people seem. I also never saw their skin color cause the lighting in that scene was too dark.
The crows are interesting case. They are ever so slightly more subtle than some of these others. And, i think if we are completely honest with ourselves, we have to admit that while they are indeed racial caricatures, they aren't the most unkind variety of caricature compared to so many others.
Disney long resisted editing that scene in the way they have so many of their others with racial caricatures in them. The piccaninnies in Fantasia were completely removed, for instance.
Unfortunately for the Disney Company, it is hard to imagine that movie without the crows.
But I've never been sold on the idea of cleaning up the past by editing this stuff out anyways. We don't remove the slave quarters from Washington's home so as to make it "family friendly" do we? We don't erase the slaves from old photographs of plantations so we can show them to our children without upsetting them. We don't remove the bridge in Selma Alabama because police beatings of black people fighting for their rights happened there? Why should Disney get to clean away its filth like it never happened?
@@ems7623 because when you walk on a bridge it doesn't insult a particular race, it just stays there. On the other hand, these films are still seen by children today, and we shouldn't teach them racism (or make children of insulted races feel hated)
Yeah, the scene is at night. On my 80’s tape, the movie wasn’t as crisp and clear. I always just thought it was shadowed men because it was dark out. I never thought about skin color at all.
@ewetube is a TYRANT we don’t understand
I remember seeing some Tom and Jerry episodes around 2012 I think on Boomerang and some of the episodes included Mammy Two Shoes before she stopped making any appearances. I didn’t know at the time that she was a racial caricature I always saw Mammy Two Shoes as Tom’s actual owner
Agree, even when Tom, jerry and Spike did get a true owner couple i just thought it was a different timeline
Same, when I saw the movie where Tom and Jerry actually talk to each other and saw the woman's legs when she's talking to someone about the house during the beginning of the movie, I was thinking "Who the heck was this?" ( it was the owner, I think, I just didn't understand who she was in the first place, that always confused me as a kid)
It’s funny to me how long It generally takes to make animation, and the animators decided to use their time and money to make scenes and cartoons that haven’t aged well in the slightest.
i didn't know "the end" was also racist
Damn alot of these I remember as a kid just didnt understand yet
@ZION PATTERSONPopeye one is racist! People in the late 1960s complained about that.. come on dude..
@justine baldwin Nobody is not complaining against a black Barbie doll.. Where in the hell you getting that information from?
All lives matter guys
no not the menace to society blacks
@@th3r3ap3r2
people are feed as soon as they come out the womb
This was never meant to hurt people... Too bad literally everything from our youth television is so destroyed by everything being seen as racist...😪
i still don't get why they say the crows from dumbo are a racist depiction . i don't get it ...