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  • The Pittsburgh Steelers OC said that the competition between Russell Wilson and Justin Fields for the starting QB job will “heat up soon”. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, James Jones, and LeSean McCoy discuss the QB battle and if Russell Wilson should feel any pressure.
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  • @SpeakOnFS1
    @SpeakOnFS1  3 місяці тому +7

    Subscribe to The Carton Show now: sprtspod.fox/SubscribeCartonShow

    • @travoncotton9017
      @travoncotton9017 3 місяці тому

      Y’all forgetting Justin fields played for the bears worse OLine and terrible play calling and no weapons for fields to work with y’all need to take his situation in Chicago into consideration

    • @travoncotton9017
      @travoncotton9017 3 місяці тому

      Bro Russell is trash and Justin is years younger and has more potential put some respect on that man name

  • @kingriq7612
    @kingriq7612 3 місяці тому +143

    I can’t wait for Justin Fields to prove Shady wrong!!

    • @anthonyray5713
      @anthonyray5713 3 місяці тому +19

      Me too. I don’t know why he dislike JF so much.

    • @kingriq7612
      @kingriq7612 3 місяці тому

      @@anthonyray5713 fr

    • @gweedo180
      @gweedo180 3 місяці тому +14

      You will be waiting a long time then, Bustin Fails sucks ..

    • @dnice33
      @dnice33 3 місяці тому +3

      He stinks

    • @michaelbooth4998
      @michaelbooth4998 3 місяці тому +4

      Jus will fumble

  • @chocboywunda
    @chocboywunda 3 місяці тому +12

    I can’t wait for Fields to make shady eat all his words

    • @advaithguvvala1401
      @advaithguvvala1401 3 місяці тому

      Don’t trip. Bro is gonna be the best bench rider in the nfl

  • @dennishicks6007
    @dennishicks6007 3 місяці тому +27

    They have been having this exact conversation for weeks

    • @MrStrosty
      @MrStrosty 3 місяці тому

      Weeks!!! All of there segments are the same

    • @bceazzy1663
      @bceazzy1663 3 місяці тому

      It’s called work, they have to have topics and takes its perfectly normal and real football fans know it.

  • @COA5T
    @COA5T 3 місяці тому +48

    I've never heard any analyst on TV say someone was a fake MVP. That caught me off guard.

    • @bengunter6219
      @bengunter6219 3 місяці тому +2

      Fr especially how wentz played before the acl

    • @jonathanprycejr.7555
      @jonathanprycejr.7555 3 місяці тому

      I think she meant it like he didn’t win it that year but he basically did in our heads based on how well he played if he didn’t get hurt. I don’t think it was to say it was a fluke.

    • @RicardoWinfreeJr
      @RicardoWinfreeJr 2 місяці тому

      Right

  • @maskedman5657
    @maskedman5657 3 місяці тому +24

    Speak be asking some of the dumbest questions. And James is the only one that got some sense

    • @JerryRebolledo-m5j
      @JerryRebolledo-m5j 3 місяці тому +1

      And the worst culprit there is chickenshit acho that CHUMP is the Weakest LINK😮

  • @MattShanley-bb6qs
    @MattShanley-bb6qs 3 місяці тому +30

    James literally makes the most sense in this segment which is nothing new

    • @williambreeze2659
      @williambreeze2659 3 місяці тому +3

      Big dog always does his thing!

    • @humphreyhumphrey7748
      @humphreyhumphrey7748 3 місяці тому +3

      Except when it's ARod. He's balling with him regardless of the question.

    • @MattShanley-bb6qs
      @MattShanley-bb6qs 3 місяці тому +3

      @humphreyhumphrey7748 well besides that he always makes the most sense

    • @humphreyhumphrey7748
      @humphreyhumphrey7748 3 місяці тому +2

      @@MattShanley-bb6qs without him this show would be a clown show. There are times when you can see that Acho doesn’t have any point but just wanna argue

    • @dohnjoe24
      @dohnjoe24 3 місяці тому +1

      James always on point

  • @benjaminhorne7286
    @benjaminhorne7286 3 місяці тому +40

    How come nobody can say Fields was in a bad situation where da coach really didn't want him to succeed cause his eyes was already on Williams BUT I think Russ is going to shut a lot of talk up

    • @TheeEgyptianQueen
      @TheeEgyptianQueen 3 місяці тому

      That part ! ☝🏾

    • @DeCurtaRican
      @DeCurtaRican 3 місяці тому +2

      Fields’s situation wasn’t nearly as bad as Russ’s, but I agree that Russ is going to shut people up this year.

    • @DeCurtaRican
      @DeCurtaRican 3 місяці тому

      Justin Fields + Russell Wilson = JustRuss!

    • @alatreon7451
      @alatreon7451 3 місяці тому +2

      That’s why I want Russ to start, at least part of it. Firstly, I like draft picks, so I’d rather keep the 4th unless Justin really is special, but I think that Justin needs a little bit more time in the oven under a proper development system.

    • @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
      @LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 3 місяці тому

      @@alatreon7451Justin Fields isn’t going to see the field for majority of this season coming unless the Steelers clinch one of the top 4 seeds and clinch their division/God forgive Russ gets injured

  • @joeschmoe5231
    @joeschmoe5231 3 місяці тому +139

    Joy started this segment with a mental breakdown

    • @tonyd7582
      @tonyd7582 3 місяці тому +10

      Little bit. 😂😂😂

    • @billshun3963
      @billshun3963 3 місяці тому +29

      But she is right about Justin Fields..

    • @455zzz
      @455zzz 3 місяці тому +10

      Literally like joy gotta open her eyes Russell Wilson hasn’t been good for awhile now… Justin fields is the future

    • @billshun3963
      @billshun3963 3 місяці тому +6

      Steelers will draft a Quarterback in the first round 2025 season.

    • @TheeEgyptianQueen
      @TheeEgyptianQueen 3 місяці тому +10

      ​@455zzz So 26 TD' with 8 INTs on an average team with a coach who hates you and yells at the top of his lungs on the sideline for the whole world to see isn't good? Your delusional.

  • @jordanullom8353
    @jordanullom8353 3 місяці тому +16

    You can’t use kenny picketts record and say they’re winning in spite of him but use Justin fields 10-28 record and he bares(pun intended) all of it! He has potential! He’s not the reason the bears lost all those games

    • @samuelgaona7196
      @samuelgaona7196 3 місяці тому +1

      That's exactly what I was thinking, her point is wrong anyway because the past three years he has a losing record, Justin was on a team that was bottom 5 for three years and he led them to 7 wins with a less than average team

    • @williampalmer565
      @williampalmer565 3 місяці тому +1

      EXACTLY Fields and the Offense scored enough to Win Alot of those Games

    • @williampalmer565
      @williampalmer565 3 місяці тому

      @@PatriotWatchUSA in the last 14 games he has comparable stats to Lamar Jackson is Jackson terrible too? Lol

    • @williampalmer565
      @williampalmer565 3 місяці тому

      @@PatriotWatchUSA I see you didn't Comment on Lamar or Lawrence 🤣🤡 just stick to Tennis . Lol Tomlin has been Raving about how WOWED his is at Fields Football is a TEAM sport your QB is only as good as the Talent you put around him. Michael Vick was the most talented QB physically in history he never won anything. Sit down and stop talking about Football lmao 🤣 you probably think Dak Prescott is a Good QB ☠️

    • @PatriotWatchUSA
      @PatriotWatchUSA 3 місяці тому

      @@williampalmer565 What do you want me to comment on? Only fools compare Fields to Lamar. That's silly lazy people not knowing or looking. What do you want me to say about Lawrence? I'm not a big fan. Dak? Dak is an NFL QB unlike JF. Dallas needs a new head coach and they probably do much better. P.S. Men don't use emoji's to make their point. 💩

  • @flex2up458
    @flex2up458 3 місяці тому +69

    Just waiting on y’all to talk bout how yall picked the mavs 😂

    • @YeaitsKobe
      @YeaitsKobe 3 місяці тому +1

      Same 😭😂

    • @KennethWilliams-v9l
      @KennethWilliams-v9l 3 місяці тому +5

      Ok they were wrong. What are they supposed to be always right

    • @jerrinmack3804
      @jerrinmack3804 3 місяці тому +4

      They're always wrong

    • @RobertDavis-vg6uy
      @RobertDavis-vg6uy 3 місяці тому +2

      Russ will prove haters to be wrong. 9 probowls 100 career QB rating. 43k passing 5300 rushing 338 Tds 106 int. 39 game winning drives. Superbowl champion

    • @kingdawg5830
      @kingdawg5830 3 місяці тому

      They were belligerent about it too

  • @brianaltman9258
    @brianaltman9258 3 місяці тому +21

    Wait a second…. Winning doesn’t count as QB stat to Acho anymore…? Yet that was the #1 thing he used against Herbert lmao

    • @universoullifebalance
      @universoullifebalance 3 місяці тому

      😂😂😂 right! Acho full of 💩! 😂

    • @jeremyorthman1873
      @jeremyorthman1873 3 місяці тому

      Media personalities always have the players the like and don't like and the goal posts move depending on which player they want to tear down or boost up.

  • @Crosby4ever
    @Crosby4ever 3 місяці тому +10

    Fields was in a terrible situation in Chicago terrible coach and OC no weapons he was set up to fail
    Maybe he just needs a fresh start like Goff and Mayfield did and become the starter next season if Wilson struggles they give Fields a chance with much better coach OC and weapons and OL to protect him

    • @Joel_Aleman
      @Joel_Aleman 3 місяці тому

      DJ is one of the best receivers in the game. Mooney is decent. Kmet is fine. Ppl grossly exaggerate how bad the receiver situation was. Obviously it is better now but it wasn't bad. Goff made it to the Superbowl and had 28TD and 7int in his second season. Fields only shows he can't play a full season of football.

    • @Joel_Aleman
      @Joel_Aleman 3 місяці тому

      PS the weapons Pittsburgh has are very comparable to what the bears had last year.

    • @anthonymccullum2849
      @anthonymccullum2849 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@Joel_Aleman Mooney so good they let him go. Kmet average. DJ Moore only weapon they had

    • @Joel_Aleman
      @Joel_Aleman 3 місяці тому +1

      @@anthonymccullum2849 so good that Kirk cousin wanted him. Christian Kirk was not wanted by Arizona. That's part of the game. Kmet is above average when it comes to receiving TE and he's a decent blocker as well.

    • @Joel_Aleman
      @Joel_Aleman 3 місяці тому

      @@anthonymccullum2849 by the way Cole kmet has had better seasons than Pat Freiermuth. As for Mooney dude had 1000 yards in his second year then got the full field experience the next few years. As a number 2 or 3 he's decent. He's a burner. With 4.38 speed

  • @Jay_Wolfe
    @Jay_Wolfe 3 місяці тому +24

    Joy says she hopes Fields improves.
    No she doesn’t. She hates Fields and there is absolutely nothing he can do to change her mind. There is zero need for her to be involved in this conversation.

    • @knockgaming7637
      @knockgaming7637 3 місяці тому

      She’s honestly right on this take. As a Bears fan, Fields was trash and so glad he’s gone. Only people who like Fields as a QB are weird Ohio state fans who still slobber over him and some weird Fields cultists. He’s a bad NFL QB and will probably never be a real starter ever again.

    • @jeanfourcade
      @jeanfourcade 3 місяці тому

      Her hysterics are insufferable. Why can't she have calm, constructive conversations without turning them into shouting contests?

    • @michaelbooth4998
      @michaelbooth4998 3 місяці тому

      None of this makes any difference. Rooney makes the calls. The owners are the god$.
      It's a business. Like, who decided the schedule & why?

    • @whoisadn
      @whoisadn 3 місяці тому

      Seriously! She always says she has no problem with him improving and growing as a player. But as soon as james brings up him being the future she immediately shuts it down. If the steelers wanted to get a better future qb they would have drafted one or kept pickett instead of trading for fields they act like the nfl or chicago forced the steelers into the trade

    • @whoisadn
      @whoisadn 3 місяці тому

      @@knockgaming7637fields wasnt trash you take his record alone and base him off of that. While he didnt play the best some games you cannot throw a team record on him. Even when players on the bears were asked about fields they never once bashed him and blamed him. Everyone knows he was not put in a good situation especially not as good as the steelers currently or what caleb has in store for this upcoming season

  • @MattShanley-bb6qs
    @MattShanley-bb6qs 3 місяці тому +39

    Joy: "I don't wanna crush on Justin", then continues to crush on him the entire segment 💀

    • @towhomitmayconcern1602
      @towhomitmayconcern1602 3 місяці тому

      Justin hasn't learned the game YET....that's what she is saying. You need a QB whos been there done that, signing Brady Tampa Bay, Manning Broncos . He's the missing piece to the puzzle.

    • @jeanfourcade
      @jeanfourcade 3 місяці тому +1

      I systematically skip Joy's and Shady's take to directly jump to James's.

  • @darrencollinsjr.7584
    @darrencollinsjr.7584 3 місяці тому +4

    This conversation is nuts. The leash is going to be short. No matter how you feel about Justin Fields, he’s going to do something that Russ simply can’t do. He’s going to wow them consistently. Even from a passing standpoint. He’s going to hit the deep ball. If Russ isn’t balling, Fields is going in.

    • @advaithguvvala1401
      @advaithguvvala1401 3 місяці тому

      Bro said he gonna wow them. Why r u acting like he was a pro bowler on a bad team. HE WAS 🗑️. Russ is a Super Bowl champion. End of convo

  • @navarriosharp8824
    @navarriosharp8824 3 місяці тому +11

    It's crazy how joy and shady ignore the fact that Fields played in Chicago smh

    • @DogDongDotCom
      @DogDongDotCom 3 місяці тому +2

      Fields could have played with 49ers, Eagles, or Miami’s scheme/weapons and he will still be him. He has not progressed at all

    • @Semperityy
      @Semperityy 3 місяці тому

      @@DogDongDotComSure buddy

    • @samuelgaona7196
      @samuelgaona7196 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@DogDongDotComIf Fields had a great oline and defense, good play calling and receivers that are experienced he'd be a very solid QB

    • @whoisadn
      @whoisadn 3 місяці тому

      @@DogDongDotComwe havent even seen him with a decent team with great weapons since ohio state and college is incomparable so honestly you cant imagine him on a great team with weapons and assume his style of play

    • @PatriotWatchUSA
      @PatriotWatchUSA 3 місяці тому

      @@Semperityy He right

  • @chaunceybryant6494
    @chaunceybryant6494 3 місяці тому +12

    Well I'm not gonna disrespect JF, the bears were a horrible team. I believe he'll get better with time as a QB. But for right now with the schedule the steelers got this season, I would feel better if russell was out there vs JF 🏈

    • @aaronclay4665
      @aaronclay4665 3 місяці тому +1

      Real talk.... it's better yo start fields.... because RUSS is the one who should be able to handle the difficult games past week 10.... if you start russ and he is bad or you habe questions.... you better pull him by week 4 or 5, because if you don't just keep russ out there all season no way u put a young qb to play 6 afc north games and the cheifs for his intro the steelers football...
      But if fields is not getting it by week 4 or 8 u can swith to the VET in russ and expect him to produce....
      Then you can let fields bake till next year ( if you have faith he just still needs to learn)

    • @whoisadn
      @whoisadn 3 місяці тому

      Exactly! Although i do believe unless wilson blows fields out of the water with a outstanding record to start off the year I still think fields should get a chance to start a game or two just to experiment

    • @advaithguvvala1401
      @advaithguvvala1401 3 місяці тому +2

      Finally people with a brain. I was scared for a second

  • @boodahoncho4598
    @boodahoncho4598 3 місяці тому +5

    James jones is right…. The team is telling you they both have a leash because they aren’t invested like that

  • @chubbydiddy7522
    @chubbydiddy7522 3 місяці тому +15

    i love joy and im a big steelers fan but i just want to explain to her that you dont just trade for a guy and not see how he is in actual gameplay thats like buying a shirt and never wearing it and never planning on wearing it out only in the house.

    • @dewayne638
      @dewayne638 3 місяці тому +2

      This is the same play they wanted to do with Haskins & Ben Let him learn behind a proven winner and SB champion Red shirt year is perfect for him

    • @madding0279
      @madding0279 3 місяці тому

      Don’t compare Haskins to Fields

    • @whoisadn
      @whoisadn 3 місяці тому

      Exactly! Especially after keeping both qb’s on a one year deal ultimately no matter who starts fields or wilson they will have to experiment with both guys at some point unless fields blows wilson out of the water or vice versa

    • @dewayne638
      @dewayne638 3 місяці тому

      @@madding0279 And why not if it's the exact same plan. If your reply is going to be something you feel I'm not interested .

  • @brandonstone367
    @brandonstone367 3 місяці тому +93

    I love the authority of the takes when there’s so little context applied to the question 😂 Fields lost because the Bears STUNK. I watched every Fields game here in Chicago. Wasn’t his fault.

    • @Nate-q4q
      @Nate-q4q 3 місяці тому +17

      I am a Bears 🐻 and you are 💯 right. Not Justin fault. They set him up for failure.

    • @jamesfetcho6315
      @jamesfetcho6315 3 місяці тому +13

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
      He held onto the ball longer than any Qb in the NFL. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Bears fault. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Kentuckybearsfan
      @Kentuckybearsfan 3 місяці тому +21

      I’m a bears fan too. We went 2-2 with an undrafted D2 rookie WITH THE SAME ROSTER. Fields was garbage.

    • @jamesfetcho6315
      @jamesfetcho6315 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Kentuckybearsfan This

    • @DCxViper
      @DCxViper 3 місяці тому +13

      so all those sacks and turnovers were Not his fault??

  • @MrMan-sq7hp
    @MrMan-sq7hp 3 місяці тому +37

    Half way through the season Joy Taylor will be bashing Russell Wilson's head in.

    • @shipjumper6068
      @shipjumper6068 3 місяці тому +15

      No way he’s worse than Kenny Pickett and his 6 TDs

    • @princecheck11
      @princecheck11 3 місяці тому +4

      are you not supposed to update your takes ?

    • @RobertDavis-vg6uy
      @RobertDavis-vg6uy 3 місяці тому +9

      Russ will prove haters to be wrong. 9 probowls 100 career QB rating. 43k passing 5300 rushing 338 Tds 106 int. 39 game winning drives. Superbowl champion

    • @easywalters
      @easywalters 3 місяці тому

      ​@RobertDavis-vg6uy 5 of 9 pro bowls, he was chosen as an alternate

    • @waynesonneman7343
      @waynesonneman7343 3 місяці тому

      @@RobertDavis-vg6uyhe had his year to prove the world wrong and the dude choked

  • @melgeocz7855
    @melgeocz7855 3 місяці тому +10

    Joy Taylor President of the Russell Wilson Fan Club. 😂😂😂 Girl has a Crush !!!!

    • @elcarlitosj8304
      @elcarlitosj8304 3 місяці тому +1

      Russell got 323 td in his career and he's 34

    • @mryang1090
      @mryang1090 3 місяці тому

      @@elcarlitosj8304 how’s does that correlate to anything that was said about the original comment?

    • @elcarlitosj8304
      @elcarlitosj8304 3 місяці тому +1

      @@mryang1090 cause he's a baller

    • @Joel_Aleman
      @Joel_Aleman 3 місяці тому

      I mean the Russ hate has gotten out of hand and she brings up great points. Kirk hasn't been better than Russ,and Fields is a huge question mark at QB.

    • @higherlearning5079
      @higherlearning5079 3 місяці тому

      She is just speaking the truth...

  • @YeaitsKobe
    @YeaitsKobe 3 місяці тому +24

    Nah upload how the whole panel was wrong about their finals picks 😂💯

    • @squalie9
      @squalie9 3 місяці тому +4

      They avoiding that accountability for dear life😂

    • @princecheck11
      @princecheck11 3 місяці тому +1

      how are they avoiding? they been bringing it up all week?

    • @RobertDavis-vg6uy
      @RobertDavis-vg6uy 3 місяці тому +1

      Russ will prove haters to be wrong. 9 probowls 100 career QB rating. 43k passing 5300 rushing 338 Tds 106 int. 39 game winning drives. Superbowl champion

    • @beandip9824
      @beandip9824 3 місяці тому +1

      Its weird, come to a football segment to talk about the lame nba?

    • @Christian-xc5mp
      @Christian-xc5mp 3 місяці тому

      @@RobertDavis-vg6uybruh your whole account protecting Russ lol take it out your mouth

  • @professorzoom4467
    @professorzoom4467 3 місяці тому +12

    Joy Don't Know Ball 🏈

    • @Joel_Aleman
      @Joel_Aleman 3 місяці тому +1

      You don't know basic logic if you think anything she said was incorrect. This conversation will be moot soon though. Stafford was 5-11 his last season with Detroit. Dude had 26 TD, 10int , passer rating of 96 and 4GWD. Russ last year was 7-8 26TD, 8int, passer rating of 98 and 4GWD

    • @AldoSantomauro
      @AldoSantomauro 3 місяці тому

      Maybe you can take her job, and be up there and talk with the rest of these 3 🤡...You probably know more than everyone, please I'm all 👂 ears...

  • @macanthony1982
    @macanthony1982 3 місяці тому +2

    All Russ has to do is replicate how he played last season with Denver (26TDs - 8INTs), with the decent talent the Steelers already have, they are still a playoff team, may even be sneaky good in the playoffs to go deeper

  • @drewwilliams8064
    @drewwilliams8064 3 місяці тому +1

    My favorite part of the show is JJs background commentary 😂

  • @dougallen1769
    @dougallen1769 3 місяці тому +1

    This team is going to rush for 2,800+ yards. The last time Russell Wilson was aided by nearly 2,800 yards rushing, he went to a Super Bowl. Justin Fields is a dynamic athlete that implodes in high leverage situations like 2 minute drills & game winning drives. Russell Wilson is the key to a playoff run.

  • @RIPBlueEyedKing
    @RIPBlueEyedKing 3 місяці тому +2

    The difference between Russ and Kirk is 44 million dollars

  • @KingVirmire
    @KingVirmire 3 місяці тому +2

    Justin Fields literally had no o-line and had 1 receiver for his Bears tenure.

  • @eddieshorty2985
    @eddieshorty2985 3 місяці тому +2

    They have no idea how good J.F is he on a good team great coaching great Culture when giving the opportunity he will shine

  • @seanh.8216
    @seanh.8216 3 місяці тому +2

    As a die hard bears fan, you guys will learn to put respect on J. Fields name. He won 7 games this Past season, 3 losses were out of his control. He didn't have pass protection at all, watch what he becomes in Pittsburgh. Thank me later.

    • @whoisadn
      @whoisadn 3 місяці тому

      Also he won 7 games and missed 5 games which he would have won 2 no doubt. Came back off injury immediately vs the lions. Then played the lions again 2 weeks later and won by 15. Loses a close one to cleveland which the defense didnt hold up on the final drive.

    • @seanh.8216
      @seanh.8216 3 місяці тому +1

      @@whoisadn don't forget the game winning touchdown Mooney dropped in the end zone. Pittsburgh got a steal. I'm happy he is in a good space. The world will see how good J. Fields really is.

    • @whoisadn
      @whoisadn 3 місяці тому +1

      @@seanh.8216 No Doubt, if I was a steelers fan I would be very happy with the quality of Qb they acquired just for a 6th rounder. Definitely can be mentored by russ and become a young Russell Wilson I believe thats how high his ceiling is.

  • @brentoneil7267
    @brentoneil7267 3 місяці тому +5

    I didn't know quarterbacks played defense.

    • @AldoSantomauro
      @AldoSantomauro 3 місяці тому

      They don't 😂...These 3 🤡 have nothing to talk about before the season even started...Either way season hasn't start go Steelers! 🖤💛 💪

  • @DEvans843
    @DEvans843 3 місяці тому +2

    This is what I’m not understanding. If Kenny Pickett can win games in PIT why can’t Justin Fields win games. They keep bringing up 10-28 for Fields, Bears had no roster. They traded him then brought in people for Williams. That’s insane.

  • @thetarheel2010j
    @thetarheel2010j 3 місяці тому +11

    I don’t get Joy, just last summer, she and everyone else was taking Russ out of the HOF now their tunes have changed. A least James Jones has a reasonable argument.

    • @Mandoshawn
      @Mandoshawn 3 місяці тому

      Yeah a lot of these hosts like to flip flop. But on Joy I think it’s because she is a Steelers fan. And Mike’s a beast of a coach. I think Russ is pretty much in my opinion but time will tell I guess.

    • @TheZayzoo
      @TheZayzoo 3 місяці тому +1

      Is it wrong to change your opinion when new data presents itself ?
      Are you saying Analyst should be closed minded? I'm just trying to understand

    • @samuelgaona7196
      @samuelgaona7196 3 місяці тому

      ​@@TheZayzooit's wrong when you don't acknowledge that you're wrong and just start yelling at everyone else about how wrong they are when you used to have the same opinion, it's hypocritical

    • @TheZayzoo
      @TheZayzoo 3 місяці тому

      @@samuelgaona7196 I see, thanks

  • @johnbochenek5526
    @johnbochenek5526 3 місяці тому +1

    Anyone who uses Ws and Ls for a QB stat has no argument.

  • @PanthaPolitix
    @PanthaPolitix 3 місяці тому +2

    We look forward to Joy eating her words...she acts like Justin had the same support in Chi that he will have in Pitt.

  • @DeCurtaRican
    @DeCurtaRican 3 місяці тому +1

    Nobody WANTS Russ from 2013. His best years were 2017 until he was injured in game 5 of 2021. He was the best QB in the league overall during those years! He was the presumptive #2 or #3 MVP in each of those years.

  • @CThomas-wg4gc
    @CThomas-wg4gc 3 місяці тому +4

    Joy…. You obviously didn’t see Wilson vs Fields last season

    • @bashirwhite2563
      @bashirwhite2563 3 місяці тому

      Who won the game? Lol

    • @aaronclay4665
      @aaronclay4665 3 місяці тому

      ​@@bashirwhite2563not because of fileds..
      He put up 27 points in the first half... it was because the bears DC was molesting kids or something and the fbi was about to raid him he was tradh... once that DC got dressed or quit the hc took over the def in the next week or two and bears got a good def...
      And ppl blamed the hc for that lost anyhow for goingnfor it and not kicking field goals....t
      Matt eberfluse lost fields at least 3 games on VERY questionable decisions, worst than stally of the chargers.
      But u know u don't watch games, I understand casuals don't have the whole story, FYI I'm a browns fan not beats or steelers I'm a football fan and I watch games.
      But yea just go on TEAM records

    • @Joel_Aleman
      @Joel_Aleman 3 місяці тому +1

      You obviously don't remember that game. While Fields number look great he had two crucial turnovers. The fumble resulted in points and the int sealed the game. Fields stop scoring with about 19mins of game time. The last time the bears scored was with 4:01 mins in the 3rd.

  • @philipwest6317
    @philipwest6317 3 місяці тому +4

    this show loves to talk about Russ and Rodgers

  • @jacobcamp6871
    @jacobcamp6871 3 місяці тому +1

    The hate on my boy kenny. Just look at that first game without canada.

  • @michaelbooth4998
    @michaelbooth4998 2 місяці тому

    JOY SHOULD HAVE HER OWN SHOW. The truth & facts don't lie like opinions & speculation.

  • @damnittrevor
    @damnittrevor 3 місяці тому

    Acho at the end saying "and that's why I'm currently on speak" was the most entertaining part of this video

  • @DeCurtaRican
    @DeCurtaRican 3 місяці тому +1

    Notice how nobody ever mentions Russ’s injuries.

  • @JoeRandom7
    @JoeRandom7 3 місяці тому +1

    Idk why but I get the feeling that Joy is miserable.

  • @rasserfrasser
    @rasserfrasser 3 місяці тому

    The best thing that could happen for the Stealers is Wilson gets them to 9+ games and then they re-sign Justin Fields (as a backup) if they like what they've seen off-season. That way they can have negotiating leverage to sign Wilson for another 2-3* years. I would say potentially draft another quarterback in that duration of time, but this is the Steelers.

  • @lenstarks7936
    @lenstarks7936 2 місяці тому

    Thank you Joy and Shady. I hope Fields is able to revive his career but to compare him and Cousins to RW3 is ridiculous. Please debate this for me: Why do we continue to talk about Herbert as one of the top QBs in the NFL when the guy has yet to win (only been to one) a playoff game. RW3 had been to 2 SBs at that stage of his career. 2021 RW3 threw for 25 TDs and the media said he had a bad season. The following season Herbert also threw for 25 TDs on 300 more attempts and yet he was still part of the discussion of best QBs...tough to watch.

  • @JonKlinkel
    @JonKlinkel 3 місяці тому

    No - he's exponentially better. If it's just Fields/Wilson.....Wilson should be starting unless he's physically unable.

  • @Randogg785
    @Randogg785 3 місяці тому

    5:14 the best sport moment EVER on television

  • @foranyandevery7656
    @foranyandevery7656 3 місяці тому +1

    Someone please take the topic selection option from Acho.

  • @dajuanhackett5332
    @dajuanhackett5332 3 місяці тому

    If the 49ers would have drafted Fields instead Trey Lance , Fields would be a super bowl champion right now

  • @cortencebatiste1378
    @cortencebatiste1378 3 місяці тому

    Fields is 10 & 28…. In 3 years. Russell Wilson is the intelligent QB. Period.

  • @jeanfourcade
    @jeanfourcade 3 місяці тому

    The real question is: how high has Russ to fly, to get the Steelers to give him a 3-year mega deal? This is why they have Fields developing and waiting in the wings.

  • @Magucci13
    @Magucci13 3 місяці тому

    Honestly I think a dual package set with fields and Russ could really see the league on fire if they execute it right.
    Russ can catch, and if he tucks the ball on a run, I doubt he'll fumble. Fields can obviously run. I'm not saying it be a staple, but when you have tools. You have to use them

  • @emanuelcarter75
    @emanuelcarter75 3 місяці тому

    7:51 Russell Wilson in 2013, 63% 3357yds 26TDs 9ints in 16 games. Russell Wilson in 2023, 66% 3050yds 26TDs 8ints in 15 games

  • @anthonymccullum2849
    @anthonymccullum2849 3 місяці тому +1

    Wilson hasn't done nothing since legion of boom

  • @sideretired9907
    @sideretired9907 3 місяці тому

    I believe the Steelers should just start Justin Fields all season and let Russell be the back up, just as an outsider Texans fan outside looking in

  • @heartmatters701
    @heartmatters701 3 місяці тому

    I know there’s significant bias against Justin on this show and he admittedly has issues reading defenses, holds on to the ball too long.
    Here are some facts to consider about Justin:
    He’s had two different HC. He was thrown out there without any support, no receivers, no OL, poor Coaching, yet he turned a 3-14 season to 8-9 which should’ve been 10-7 were it not for HC miscalculations. Show me which other QB tripled the wins in one year with as little support as Justin had.

  • @ohopejr
    @ohopejr 3 місяці тому

    As a Steelers fan, I don't won't to see a 2 back system. I hope Russell balls out for us and we sign him for 3 yrs. Then give the reins to Fields.

  • @JonKlinkel
    @JonKlinkel 3 місяці тому

    This is the same problem the Bears had....the FANS and MEDIA were clamoring for Fields to play, even though Andy Dalton is ALSO exponentially better than Fields. They got Nagy fired, even though he was doing what he should have done.....it's a joke. This shouldn't even be a topic of discussion.

  • @orvillesatterthwaite9093
    @orvillesatterthwaite9093 3 місяці тому

    Steelers should give Justin most of the snaps in preseason to evaluate him for free because you know what Russell brings which is ok at best.

  • @DerQuanDoucett
    @DerQuanDoucett 3 місяці тому

    Joy talks about Rodgers Super Bowl ring like it was 20 years ago then brings up Russ ring like it was yesterday. They rings not even 5 years apart 😂😂

  • @brandonlacy9058
    @brandonlacy9058 3 місяці тому

    Joy Taylor definitely makes this show, not just because she’s the finest female sports analyst on tv, it’s mostly due to her out shining her co host. She usually right and proves her point better than her counterparts! Definitely needs her own show!

  • @vanillasky1271
    @vanillasky1271 3 місяці тому

    Justin is younger, more athletic and higher upside... Justin could be more lethal with Harris and Warren with new OC... of course there is a leash...

  • @BillyL
    @BillyL 3 місяці тому

    Shady hates stats but uses them to talk trash about Trevor even when it's obvious he doesn't watch him play.

  • @jpchevy440
    @jpchevy440 3 місяці тому +1

    You know I feel the same way about Fields as I do Lance lol they writing them both off when they just waiting on that moment to shine

    • @daniellopez3606
      @daniellopez3606 3 місяці тому +3

      Justin showed some flashes a lot but when you got oc that’s sucks call in play s when it matters the most

    • @williambreeze2659
      @williambreeze2659 3 місяці тому +1

      Dallas should draft Shadeur next season!

    • @whoisadn
      @whoisadn 3 місяці тому

      @@daniellopez3606facts!

  • @DeCurtaRican
    @DeCurtaRican 3 місяці тому

    A short leash on Russ will only mean a presumed shorter one for Fields. Once you bench Russ for Fields, you cannot go back to Russ if Fields sucks, and putting in Kyle Allen at that point is risky because Shaw you will have played three QBs.
    THAT could at the very least put Mike Tomlin on the hot seat for the 2025 season if it doesn’t get him fired, new contract or no new contract.
    This is why you have to give Russ a long leash. James Jones says there’s a leash.
    I can buy that, but it’s only going to make him play better, but there are media and fans ready to call for Fields the first time Russ throws an INT, and that’s total bullsh!t. Russ needs to be comfortable in there, and there will be growing pains.
    The NFL did Russ and the Steelers a huge favor by backloading their schedule, and I believe they did it on purpose.
    One more note: Russ doesn’t have to be paid a bag by the Steelers because he is being paid $39M by the Broncos, who wanted to hang onto Russ for another year, btw.
    They benched Russ in efforts to lose the final two games and move up in the draft, and they only cut Russ because he refused to defer his injury guarantee for an additional year. That guarantee could’ve cost the Broncos $100M.
    If Russ would’ve deferred, they would’ve kept him for 2024. He would still be in Denver, and he didn’t want to stay in Denver!
    Get it right!

  • @josephgonsalves8579
    @josephgonsalves8579 3 місяці тому

    If you just based this on talent and not resumes from a bygone era, you would pick Justin Fields over Russell Wilson all day long

  • @gretchennash7357
    @gretchennash7357 3 місяці тому

    Obviously the Steelers should have kept Kenny and had some patience.

  • @RaulGuzman-jo3nr
    @RaulGuzman-jo3nr 3 місяці тому

    Im winning n so happy NFL is here

  • @higherlearning5079
    @higherlearning5079 3 місяці тому

    Ok, Joy knows what she is talking about. That Kirk observation is on point, just never said out loud for those other sports talk shows. Can we have joy do a QB ranking to give some reality to those other QB rankings out there.... Acho, can do one to compare on the show...

  • @CB10-6
    @CB10-6 3 місяці тому

    Russell Wilson is the better quarterback out of the two is her point and this season will prove that. However, Justin Fields is a better athlete but his throws are slower and inaccurate and his processing speed is why Chicago sent this nice young man packing to the Steelers.

  • @Anthony-yu5yz
    @Anthony-yu5yz 3 місяці тому

    The AFC North is going to be brutal this season.

  • @riverdearden1088
    @riverdearden1088 3 місяці тому

    Steelers fan here. Nobody claims joy

  • @yarosh999
    @yarosh999 3 місяці тому

    Why Steelers should give a chance to 30+ year old QB who's at the end of his career a chance to get another pay day rather then to see what young QB can do/show you and probably solidify your QB room for years as they might just keep running the ball with Fields/Harris/Warren and occasionally let Fields throw that ball and let your D do the rest as Russel cannot run as effectively as he used to

  • @fatalcontent
    @fatalcontent 3 місяці тому

    Steelers have a brutal schedule, it's set up for Fields to get his turn. Joy acting like it's 2015 Russ

  • @jihadzmuhammad
    @jihadzmuhammad 2 місяці тому

    Joy’s take is spot on

  • @JonKlinkel
    @JonKlinkel 3 місяці тому

    ANY time "money" comes into the discussion, you know it's not a legitimate argument. That's an excuse.

  • @ChristopherPorter-n7r
    @ChristopherPorter-n7r 3 місяці тому

    Joy defends Russel Wilson with his accomplishments of the past but then disregards them for Aaron Rodgers....racism

  • @steelcitychamps12
    @steelcitychamps12 2 місяці тому

    Russell Wilson has ran for his life for 4 or 5 seasons. Hard to win when you are always running for your life

  • @bangusasports
    @bangusasports 3 місяці тому +1

    thats pittsburgh problem to figure out they went and signed two competitive qbs

  • @HockeyMike
    @HockeyMike 3 місяці тому

    Everybody had good points on this

  • @Coyotepapii
    @Coyotepapii 3 місяці тому

    Only one of those qbs listed actually wins it all in the playoffs…. And acho back hand complimented dak with “regular season winner” NO OTHER QB YOU NAMED BESIDES MAHOMES WINS THE POST SEASON

  • @JohnSmith-it4sv
    @JohnSmith-it4sv 3 місяці тому

    Cousins is on a leash for sure. Atlanta spent a No. 1 pick on Pennix. If Kirk starts shaky, changes coming.

  • @455zzz
    @455zzz 3 місяці тому

    Guys Russell Wilson is on a short leash whether you like it or not idc how much you like him as a person it’s a QB competition

  • @DylanWolf_entertainment
    @DylanWolf_entertainment 3 місяці тому

    I loved how no one listened when Joy said it but as soon Shady (all love Shady you did nothing wrong it’s the other guys) said it they all started agreeing and nodding their heads all because she said it in a different tone with different chromosomes everything she said is right and should be heard

  • @mathgod
    @mathgod 3 місяці тому

    Oh no, Russel fan here. Joy supporting him worries me. Her takes are often insane.

  • @ONGEES
    @ONGEES 3 місяці тому

    Wasn’t she talking down on Russell Wilson last year?

  • @Nuke631
    @Nuke631 3 місяці тому +1

    Get'em joy😅😊😅

  • @williambreeze2659
    @williambreeze2659 3 місяці тому

    Justin Fields team is the nfl equivalent to the Detroit Pistons. Justin and Cade had no help last season! We can't expect Fields to ball in Chicago. Joy/Shady needs to stop hating on Fields. I think Justin will be the starter next year, and he might be able to grab the starting job near the end of this season!

  • @rickmartinez342
    @rickmartinez342 3 місяці тому

    Hey, I hear however this is all speculation. How about Baker Mayfield? I believe Justin could be something, if he learns some things, matures.

  • @TheZayzoo
    @TheZayzoo 3 місяці тому

    5:15
    Shady cracks me up

  • @seanc6754
    @seanc6754 3 місяці тому

    Justin Fields also played for the bears... And the bears did NOT give him the team they gave Caleb.. lets inject some context joy

  • @jays8664
    @jays8664 3 місяці тому

    Joy still salty from last year when keep saying Pickett was prime for a big season cause he was tearing it up in the preseason.

  • @MrMan-sq7hp
    @MrMan-sq7hp 3 місяці тому +4

    Justin Fields has NEVER had any help.The Bears put pieces around.Caleb Wms. ,but let Fields struggle.

    • @DeCurtaRican
      @DeCurtaRican 3 місяці тому +1

      Russ is still going to be the starter, and Russ’s situation in Denver was horrific!

  • @siriusblack745
    @siriusblack745 3 місяці тому

    2:26 Justin Fields was good his last yr in chi Town that's why we didn't want them to give him up

  • @bigdawgscanner2756
    @bigdawgscanner2756 3 місяці тому

    The only shorter leash is the one ARod has on Mr. Jones...😂

  • @DopeThamacc-cx2bi
    @DopeThamacc-cx2bi 3 місяці тому

    Kenny Pickett looked so good that first year I don't know how he regressed like he did

  • @jamarvinb6252
    @jamarvinb6252 3 місяці тому

    Acho the biggest Russell Wilson hater I ever seen

  • @RaulGuzman-jo3nr
    @RaulGuzman-jo3nr 3 місяці тому

    Behind door number one is perfect coaching 👌