Jesus also gave all twelve power to cast out devils... A devil can't cast out devils, or his kingdom will be divided against itself and cannot stand, according to Jesus. Not only that, Jesus told the twelve their names were written in heaven 🤔
Let me pose the following questions and statements to those brethren who still don’t believe Judas was ever saved. 1. Would Christ have sent an unsaved man, full of the devil, and doing everything he could to destroy the work of God, out on a missionary journey? Psalm 41:9. 2. How could Judas become an apostle, preach the gospel, heal the sick, cast out demons, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, have the peace of God to give to a household, be a sheep in the midst of wolves, and be able to speak under the power, authority, and influence of the Father’s Spirit, if he was an unsaved soul never in grace? Matthew 10: 1-26, Mark 3:20-27. 3. What did Judas fall from? How could he do this if he was always a sinner and a devil as some say? Would not the Scripture say he died in his sins, like Jesus said to those Pharisees who never believed in Him? Acts 1:25, John 8:21-24. 4. How could Judas never be saved and have his name blotted out of the book of life? Psalm 69: 25-28 (David speaking prophetically). 5. To those who use 1 John 2:19 to speak about Judas, I would retort with Acts 1:15-17, Peter speaking, with emphasis on verse 17. 6. Lastly, let me counter the argument that no one was saved until Pentecost came. I would refer you to Jesus’s prayer for Himself, His disciples, and all His believers in John 17. According to Jesus, eleven made it to heaven and one did not. 7. In Luke 23:39-43, Jesus tells one of the thieves on the cross he would be with Him in Paradise. Deathbed conversions are very real and Biblical. This passage refutes all the Jesus plus theologies out there on the Christian landscape. Jesus + absolute eternal security, Jesus + baptism (it’s good to get baptized, although it’s not a requirement for salvation), Jesus + you must speak in a tongue, and Jesus + you must worship on Saturday (Seventh Day Adventists) All false. The correct answer is Jesus + nothing more or nothing less. Jesus alone. Revelation 22:18-1 9. I know there are many out there who disagree with my interpretation of this issue, and that’s fine. As a person of consensus, I believe we as Christians can unanimously agree that Judas was lost for all eternity. Some would say that he was never saved and some would say as I do that he was saved and then backslid and fell from the faith. Either way, we all end up on the same page, and that’s a good thing.
Question: Corey does the fact that he could not save Judas a weak God? Did Judas walk away from the faith? Did Judas have to betray Christ or did he choose to reject Christ? Does God force the will to do ANYTHING or does man make their own choice?
Curious to see Corey’s view on your questions, too. I view it as a decision God made pre-emptively not to save Judas. He used Judas to effectuate His plan of salvation, but I don’t believe this is an issue of whether God *could* save Judas. Scripture shows that Judas was marked from the beginning for destruction, and Jesus indicates that Judas was fully responsible for his actions. This gets into the sticky issue of free will vs God’s sovereignty that often puts reformed folks at odds with non-reformed people.
God doesn’t force your will . He restrains wickedness and if it is apart of His decree He releases His hand to let you do the wicked things that are already within your sinful nature . So I would say that He limits our sinful will according to His purposes and for His glory.
Brother, thank you. I have been dealing with this with my pastor and other minister within the church I attend. I went to John 13: 10-11, "Jesus said to him, “He who is bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean, but not all of you.” For He knew who would betray Him; therefore He said, “You are not all clean.” Jesus was clearly saving Judas was not saved! They try to use Judas going out with the 70 casting out demons and healing to say Judas was saved. In my rebuttal, If Jesus gives a command it would come to past. God told the devil he could do all he wants to do with Job but take Job' life. Demons is under God's commands also. Like the spirit who put a lie in the false prophets mouths of Ahab, in 1 Kings 22:19-23, And the Lord said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner. 21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the Lord, and said, I will persuade him. 22 And the Lord said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so. 23 Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee."
Judas was one time a saved man? He had the Holy Spirit and power like the other apostles and was a successful preacher and healer like them (Mt. 10:1-20; Mk. 6:7-13). He had his name written in Heaven, as proven by Acts 1:20 with Ps. 69:25-29. He fell from the apostleship by transgression (Acts 1:25). Judas was not a devil from the beginning? There is no such statement in the Bible. He was "a devil" or an adversary against Christ toward the latter part of His ministry and this is all the Bible does say about the question (Jn. 6:70). He was not always an adversary for he was once a saved man.
@MatthewMencias so you are saying two things if I'm correct... 1.The Holy Ghost was not strong enough to keep his salvation? 2.That God is not all knowing?
@@mariodebeer I'm saying that man is a free moral agent. Man can freely choose to serve God or not. This is why Joshua told the children of Israel to "Choose you this day whom you will serve". All the Holy Ghost in the world is not going to force anyone to stay saved if they choose not to.. it's called backsliding, just like ancient Israel constantly did, and Christians do it all the time today... Concerning God being all knowing, God's knowing had nothing to do with Adam and Eve willfully disobeying God. God knew they would disobey one billion years BEFORE he created them. They disobeyed God because they chose to.. God's knowing doesn't interfere with or stop the choices we make.. If you DECIDE to blow your brains out, God knows, but most of the time he'll allow you to do it.. We have freedom of choice. Satan has it, and the angels have it.
All i remember about Judas is they said he was a thief and Jesus said he was a devil...He said to the 12 havent i chosen you 12 and 1 if you is a devil anf before he was gonna betray the lord Jesus it said satan entered judas...He obviously betrayed him for 30 pieces of silver and after jesus was put to death he was crying talking bout he betrayed innocent blood and his bowels gushed out in this place called the field of blood something like that and its called that to this day...This man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity i remember the scripture saying something like that
The holy spirit was never in anyone in the old testament, it came upon them. When Saul was anointed king of Israel, the Holy Spirit came upon him (1 Samuel 10:10), but when God removed His blessing on Saul, the Holy Spirit left him (1 Samuel 16:14). The Holy Spirit came for specific moments or seasons in the lives of Othniel (Judges 3:10), Gideon (Judges 6:34), and Samson (Judges 13:25; 14:6) as well, to enable them to do His will and serve Israel. At Pentecost, the Holy Spirit was poured out on all believers in Christ, and He came to stay. This marked a major change in the Holy Spirit’s work. An issue related to losing the Holy Spirit is eternal security. There is debate among Christians about whether or not someone can lose his or her salvation. To lose salvation would be to lose the Holy Spirit who provides it. In fact, Scripture says that the Holy Spirit “seals” our salvation until we experience its completion in the presence of God (Ephesians 1:13; 4:30). For the Holy Spirit to vacate a heart that He had promised to seal would make Him unfaithful. One of the Holy Spirit’s tasks, after moving into a believing heart, is transforming that person into the image of Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17; Romans 8:29), and we have the promise that “he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion” (Philippians 1:6). We do not believe the Spirit will undo His work of regeneration, give up on His transformative work, or redefine eternal life to mean “temporary life.” Since we did not “find” the Holy Spirit, it is doubtful that we can “lose” Him. Some take issue with the word lose and say that, while a Christian cannot lose the Holy Spirit, he or she can forfeit the gifts and salvation He brings by a willful renouncement of Him. However, Ephesians 1:13 says, “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit.” Can a believer truly break the seal placed on him by God? The Holy Spirit is the mark of a true believer; therefore, to lose Him would be to lose any hope of salvation in the future. What causes confusion on this issue is that we cannot know whether someone else has truly been born of the Spirit or whether he is the “shallow soil” as Jesus described in Luke 8:1-15. Some people seem excited to follow Jesus and may exhibit what appear to be supernatural gifts, but they were never truly born again. Jesus addresses those people with a stern warning in Matthew 7:21-23. Many people profess to have the Holy Spirit but eventually prove that they were imposters when their lives turn away from following Him (see Romans 8:14). Such people did not lose the Holy Spirit; He was never theirs at all (1 John 2:19).
Correct you can only make a judgement based on what the lord tells you in scripture the bible tells us he was a devil a thief satan entered him he betrayed him.jesus for 30 pieces of silver and it would have been better if he had never been born etc
@@kirillsergeyev7116 he didnt cast out demons theres no record of in the whole kjv bible of judas casting demons out of people like others deciples of the lord jesus christ and he did not receive the holy spirit like other apostles he was only added to the 12 to betray jesus he was already wicked so since he chose that was Gods purpose for him to do what he normally does do wickedness and betray jesus and after his death he got replaced by a true christian mathias..The devil cant cast out devils
My argument to this conclusion to him not being saved, just to give another perspective is the position of the son of perdition could have been any one of the 12. Jesus had to rebuke Peter and says get the behind me Satan after Peter had just spoken what the Father revealed to him. Also to add this point, Jesus tells Peter that Satan has desired to have him or sift him as wheat. But the Lord said he prayed for him that his Faith don't fail. But the scripture says Satan put it in Judas heart to betray Jesus and Satan entered into Judas. We try to read scripture and give answers from the knowledge only the Lord has unless it's revealed unto us.
I have always wondered about this question. If it was God's plan to sacrifice his son then if Judas didn't do his part it wouldn't have happened right?
You don't have a part to do, if we do something to be justified we would not be saved by Grace, we would be saved by our ability to follow directions. Jesus told Nicodemus we had to be born again (from above), we do not makes ourselves born from above only God does that. Jesus was referring to Ezekiel 36:25-27 where God said; 25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. Notice who is talking God, notice he did not ask Israel to do anything, notice the condition is a heart issue, God said he would take out the heart and put in a new heart, notice God put his spirit in them and caused them to walk in his ways, after you are born from above you can chose and continue to chose, obey and abide in Jesus. God does the work not us.
Uh... that makes it sound like the Father essentially had it guaranteed that Judas and only Judas was going to betray... thus making it seem as though it was fate... like some who teach the erroneous predestination lie... Rather, I believe it was more about the Father knowing the enemy and how he would attack His Son... thus, the enemy was going to certainly get to someone in Christ inner circle... Remember, Christ called others who were not the 12 as well and I believe satan also tried to get to as many who were close... then once the 12 were established, perhaps he focused on them.... Christ even told Peter that satan actually requested to sift Peter like wheat.... My point is that The Father knew how the enemy would attack and would certainly succeed in turning one close to His Son... who that one was to be wasn't necessarily fixed... as we see in this passage of John, there were others who didn't believe yet... along with Judas. As such, Judas was not absolved from his CHOICE... he still chose to betray the Lord... he was not forced or predestined to do so.
@@gd512826 Hate to burst your bubble but Judas was predestined and created for his specific purpose. This is textbook predestination. He was created to be unsaved, evil and to betray Christ.
@@555chanYes. Actually according to the Bible we are all evil born in sin. God doesn't force anyone to Sin, but he can accomplish his purposes through sinful creatures. Acts 2:23 " This man was handed over to you by God’s deliberate plan and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross. ". Nobody forced Judas to sin, but God let him do his thing to accomplish his purpose.
I came to know Christ in jail in 2013 by reading a book, "Overcoming spiritual blindness" by James P. Gills MD. The veil was taken off my eyes. Heaven came through for me in my finances too, getting $43,000 monthly. I can support God's work and give back to my community. God is absolutely more than enough!
Isaiah 45:3 speaks of a transference of riches from the heathen to the righteous... I will give you the treasures of darkness and the riches hidden in secret... I receive this for my household in Jesus' name. Amen!
He said we shouldn't bother about what to wear or eat. He is more than enough, as he supplies my needs according to his riches in glory. I can't love him less
What about verses in John 21:20-23? Jesus says the disciple that betrayed Him would not die; however, Judas is already dead by this point. Wouldn’t this mean Judas would not die the Second Death?
Yeah that. If Jesus Himself says better for that man had he never been born...yeeeeah. Of all the people we're sure are in Hell, we're more sure Judas is in Hell than we are Hitler.
@freegracejake42 let me put it this way: did you argue the point when Jesus told the good thief he was going to Heaven? No? Then don't argue when He says Judas went to Hell
I had a friend who believed that he listen to a guy named Sam samou ,I believe he said told him ,I showed him the scriptures where it showed he never was
Jesus said don't come rejoicing because the devil's obey you.... But rejoice because your names are written in the book of Life..... And Judas was with them when he said that...
Similar question about another person in the Bible: was King Nebuchadnezzar saved? I would lean to the side of no, as he has a similar situation to other people in the Bible to acknowledge Gods existence and sovereignty, but the main difference is that there is a section in the book of Daniel that is an excerpt of what appears to be written by him (correct me if I'm wrong) at the end of chapter 4. I find it hard to believe that the writing of a non-believer / someone not filled with the holy spirit, would make it into the Bible.
This has always made me wonder. Because I have never understood why Jesus would give authority to preach, heal and cast out demons to someone who He said was a devil. Is this what is happening in the church? Is God using people who are 'devils' and giving them authority and power in His church to preach and do other spiritual things? I mean God is the same yesterday, today and forever more. If He used the 'devil' Judas to go forth is His power and authority to preach, heal and cast out demons, who says He is not still using 'devils' to get His work done today? And if He is, then maybe I can better understand why the church is in such a downfall. Paul did talk about the qualifications of a bishop. Correct me if I am wrong, but among all the things he said to Timothy about the qualifications of a pastor, he didn't say that he must be born again and full of the Spirit of God. Maybe he didn't mention it because being born again and full of the Spirit was a given. The qualifications for pastor seem to indicate the one must be a good upstanding man of good reputation. One who's house is in order and not given to much wine. So will God use a man who meets all the qualifications but who is not born again and full of the Spirit? I mean I want to say no way would He use someone who is not at lease born again. But then again, He used Judas. Who He said was a devil.
Judas situation brings up this question, Can a person remain saved without continuing to obey? Judas obeyed and believed in Jesus until his betrayal. Not saying he was saved
Judas hung himself, saved people, if they're truly saved, would they hang themselves? I'd really like to know the answer to that question. A saved individual, why would anyone commit suicide if they're saved? Corey, please advise, thank you so much, 🙏🏾♥️🙏🏾
So they’re saved. David was saved but Commited murder and adultery. Sin is sin all is forgiven for Christ paid for our sins. It does not mean to freely sin it means we are saved from not going to hell when we sin but we pay our family members pay and others pay for our sins. It’s not the suicide but his unbelieving that caused him to go to Hell. He was the only apostle that called him just master while the other ones referred to him as Lord. KJV 2 corithians 12:19-21 19 Again, think ye that we excuse ourselves unto you? we speak before God in Christ: but we do all things, dearly beloved, for your edifying. 20 For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults: 21 And lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed. And corithians 5:1-5 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife. 2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, 4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
Peter in the book of Acts referes to the ancient prophecies concerning Judas and his fate let alone the proof of the "Field of blood" which exist even to this day. Salvation is, and has always been according to God's will not mans choice or deeds.
What do you say about the prodigal son in scripture? The Father said he was dead but now is alive. Dead spiritually because he left His Fathers house or dead because The Father thought he was physically dead? Is this saying you could be alive by faith but then become dead by leaving the faith? ”But as soon as this son of yours came, who has devoured your livelihood with harlots, you killed the fatted calf for him.’ “And he said to him, ‘Son, you are always with me, and all that I have is yours. It was right that we should make merry and be glad, for your brother was dead and is alive again, and was lost and is found.’ ”“ Luke 15:30-32
Luke 15 the parable of the prodigal son, one of my commentary quotes this is sometimes called “ The parable of the Perfect Father “, as a matter of fact the “Father (God) “ is the hero of the story “ A certain man”( God) and his response to his two sons is what the parable is all about. (Not so much Judas at all)The primary lesson of the parable is to show the difference between Gods attitude toward sinners and that of the Pharisees( the elder brother), it is undoubtedly intentional that Jesus said this “certain man” had only Two sons. Two sons prodigal(sinners) and petulant (Pharisees) that’s all the sons God has(except His Perfect Son). All mankind falls into one category or the other those who openly rebel and admit they are sinners, and those who s pretend they are not. Humanity falls either prodigal or Pharisee there is no other breed of man outside the grace of God. So the story of Luke 15 has more to do with Deuteronomy 21:17 , and Mathew 12:30 , James 5:19-20 then anything to do with Judas another prodigal son, or Acts 5 incident.
He repented, Do a deeper study around the 30 pieces of silver and the true meaning behind that. Also he did not commit suicide by hanging, he was split open. Act 1:15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,) Act 1:16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. Act 1:17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry. Act 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. Mat 27:3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, The chief priests and elders hanged him. HE REPENTED! This was going to happen just as sure as Peter denied Christ 3 times before cock crowed
It’s awesome you say lets” do a deeper study” let’s do one on “falling headlong”, “ field of blood”. “Falling headlong”could it be possible it was a medical term for “swelling up”( Moultan and Milligan the vocabulary of the Greek Testament pg 535-536) even some English translations CJB,Phillips, Mofatt and Godspeed. Field of blood is Greek translation of an Aramaic word. It is always difficult to uniformly transpose from one language to another. Despite the Greek spelling variations the Aramaic means “Field of blood” this could mean, A field bought with blood money Mathew 27:7, A field where blood was shed Act 1:18, Or a field where murders or foreigners (strangers)were buried Mat 27:7. Act 1:20 are 2 quotes from psalm 69:25, and the second is from psalm 109:8 and provides the prophetic replacement for Judas as discussed In Acts 1:21-26.
@@fernandojrapodaca Fact of the matter is, Judas repented, and for Corey to say he is not saved is making himself God. Do you know why God is judge and not man? Luk 16:15 And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God. Jas 4:12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another? Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
@@denisemaxwell51 Do you know how to rightly divide the word of God? Them verses you pulled out of context have nothing to do with what ever you are try to apply them in context. Luke is referring to either a public weekly alms giving or ostentatious giving in the temple, Luke often records Jesus teachings about this kind of self righteousness, this was the PROBLEM of the PHARISEES. James 4:12 this is another reference to monotheism as in jame 2:19 and probably an illusion to Deuteronomy 6:4, these phrases is often used of God the Father ( Mathew 10:28,Luke 12:4-5) in the OT all causality is attributed to YWHH this is still another way of asserting monotheism Deu 32:39,1 Sam 2:6-7,2 king:5-7, judging criticizing or comparing makes one look better at another expense which is another inappropriate use of the tongue.Mathew 7:1 Christians have a tendency to be critical of one another. This verse is quoted to prove that Christians should not judge each other at all BUT, Mathew 7:5-6, Mathew 7:15, 1 Corinthians 5:1-12 Jesus was assuming that believers evaluate one another spiritually one attitude and motives are the keys Galatians 6:1,Romans 2:1-11,Romans 14:1-23, Jas 4:11-12 them 3 verses you used have nothing to do with Corey or defending Mary good luck.
@@fernandojrapodaca Pro 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. I will not longer reply to your foolishness. So bye fool. How's that for rightly dividing the truth.
@@denisemaxwell51 LOL , I love you God love you to proverbs 26:4-5 make a revealing couplet, they contradict each other and for a good reason. There is no way to deal with a fool. If you answer him accordingly, accurately to his folly? Like him, on the other hand if you answer a fool accordingly to his folly he will think himself like yourself. It’s is impossible to reason with a fool. They are convinced in thee own mind. People exhorts people to get away from fools( pro14:7) . Sticks and stones can break my bones but YOUR words DENISE Maxwell 51 will never hurt me LOL. God bless in the name of JESUS!!!!
So you think Jesus chose a demon to be an Apostle. That's not smart my friend. Jesus told Peter to get behind me Satan as well. Was Peter a fraud as well?
As for judas the same as every human. Each person choses for himself heaven or hell. God knew the outcome but didnt chose for hell for judas , judas chose for himself, silver
I agree about Judas. My mind keeps replayin Jesus saying "I never knew you" though...... Yeshua knew Judas though right? They walked beside each other literally....... Anyone care to attempt to make that sound right? Cause im having a hard time with the "never knew you" verse in accordance with Judas......
TheBible never said that Judas was a devil. Christ said “ Did I not choose you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil? There’s a big difference between was and is. Judas turned on Jesus toward the close of His ministry. John 6:70 To see what Jesus thought about Judas prior to his earthly ministry, go to Psalm 41:9.
Did Judas heal the sick, raise the dead, and cast out devils? We know that the twelve disciples were given to do all those things. But that raises another question.
Question. If Judas wasn't saved, and was a devil, why would Jesus give him power to cast out devils and unclean spirits? Jesus plainly taught that a Kingdom divided against itself cannot stand 🤔🤔
@@kevinb.1454Because Jesus can't deny himself as his word is true and faithful as he said in his name you will cast out demons even you who can believe and say in Jesus name can you cast out demons but doesnt mean you are saved . living a willingly sinful lifestyle not abiding in christ still being a fornicator, theif , adulterer etc never wanting to change and leaving you sinful lifestyle . They will send you to hell and you will hear these words . Matthew 7:23 King James Version 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Notice it says ye that work iniquity meaning immoral or "grossly unfair behavior" its not OSAS . 1 Peter 1:15-16 King James Version 15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; 16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. Hebrews 12:14 King James Version 14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
@@MatthewMencias Absolutely correct, my point exactly... Or Jesus would have never given all the disciples power to cast out devils and unclean spirits.
Corey @smartchristians Um my comment? Don’t see it anywhere? I shared why not say which channel you saw this at? It was my channel. At least let people know. And I asked if you would be willing to have a discussion. Are you? Or will this be removed as well?
John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw ( salvation process )him: and I will raise him up at the last day. Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work ( salvation process ) in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ ( Resurrection ). Salvation is a process just like a covenant is also a process!!! God started the process of the salvation of the twelve disciples ( including Judas )through Christ; just like planting twelve trees hoping that all of them will be fruitful ( you don't plant one bad one intentionally and turn around and blame the tree for being fruitless). Judas fell off the wagon because he refused to be discipled in accordance to Christ's teachings and instructions.
Ephesians 1:13 King James Version 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
With all due respect and love, the Scriptures declare that Judas was a saved man before he betrayed the Lord. Please note Matthew 10: 5-20, when the Lord sent twelve men out on a missionary journey. Slip on down to verse 20 where it says the Spirit of the Father would be in each of the twelve. He had the Holy Spirit in him. Case closed. The reason it says Father is because Jesus had not yet gone to the cross. Spirit of the Father, Spirit of Jesus, and Holy Spirit are all three co-equal members of the Triune Godhead. Please note the Scripture says that by transgression Judas fell. How can you fall from something you never had to begin with? If it said that he died in his sins, which is what Christ told the unbelieving Pharisees who would not believe in Him in John 8, you would be on more solid ground.
No. Pay attention to what Jesus says in verse 17 “But beware of men, for they will hand you over to the courts and scourge you bin their synagogues; 18 and you will even be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles. 19 “aBut when they hand you over, do not worry about how or what you are to say; for it will be given you in that hour what you are to say. This did not happen to Judas. He was speaking of what would come and this certainly happened to the apostles after Pentecost.
no he wasnt jesus told the 12 havent i chosen you 12 and one of you is a devil talking about him we know he was a thief too a terrible one i guess but after that it talks about satan entering judas and the lord told him what youre about to do do quickly..You betray the son of man with a kiss the lord said to him and the lord said he goes as it is written of him but woe to the man by whom he is betrayed it were better if that man had never been born..So sounds like judas is doomed...the others are not damned or in danger of eternal hell fire..
The good shepherd does not lose his sheep, the sheep even after chasing and fighting for them and praying for them and dying for them go on in their sin and leave. Be wise, your human smarts are failing
Was Judas saved ? Yes , until he forgave his salvation for a price. He wasn't called a disciple for no reason. God knew and God forgave. Man John 14 Matthew 5 1 John if anyone says they know me but doesn't keep my commandments he is a liar so anybody falling short of keeping that doctrine how can I take you serious? . If one can't lose salvation explain that to a lot of the Jewish people because that's why only a remnant made it out and that's why you got the gospel because they are descendants from the remnant... And tell that to the angels who are chained in the abyss that you can't lose your salvation because they're wondering how that happened... It's called free will... The book of Thessalonians clearly says this Don’t be fooled by anything they might say. That day of the Lord will not come (until the turning away from God happens.) And that day will not come until the Man of Evil appears, the one who belongs to hell. Man it says apostasy so that means no secret rapture none of that can happen until the many fall away from God so you can fall way and stray away from God you can walk away from salvation? Yes you can. Don't be fooled or let a fool give you fools gold. Because the very people who was taught by the disciples who was taught by Jesus taught you could lose your salvation... Now argue with God because it seems that people have a problem with him and yet they teach causing people to stumble. Thou shalt not bear false witness
Yahshau said I picked all of you and one of the devil. So he always knew one was picked for this task and would be better if not born. If you are Christian you can not be possessed because light(holy spirt) and dark(devil) can not live in the same house which is your body(house) at the same time. So he had to not be save for this to happen at all being possessed of the devil if saved.
You mean the sacrifice of Jesus, right? Old Testament saints were saved by grace through faith just like Christians today. The only difference is that they looked forward to the Messiah and His life, death, burial and resurrection as God revealed as early as in the garden of Eden (Genesis 3:15) continued to reveal throughout the law and the prophets. Today, we look back towards the Cross and put our faith in Jesus’s finished work.
@@Blueb937 I dont know judas wasnt saved and I dont think we know if he was saved or not. I'm just using basic logic. The bible says its only way to the kingdom and that is through Jesus. Well if Jesus ain't had the blood sacrifice then it's no way to heaven. Unless you float up on a cloud like a couple of the prophets.
I can tell you speak & teach with authority, so therefore, you are a worthy priesthood holder, I am new to Christianity, so please excuse my choice of words, am I on the right path? is the true gospel and Church of Jesus Christ organized in this way? like how the Catholic church and Mormon church have deacons, teachers, priest, etc. Please let me know in simple terms as I have said, I am very new to Christianity, so please take no offense if I accidentally offended anyone, thank you.. .. ..
I have wondered what he may have said before hanging himself. Obviously he felt guilt and I assume remorse for selling Jesus out. But it doesn’t say he repented. Idk. I’m not gonna venture to say Judas didn’t get forgiveness, but if he did I’d think the guilt wouldn’t have led him to suicide. Either way we’ll know when we get there. I just wanna be extra careful because he was a disciple and everyone always says we will be surprised who will be there and who won’t.
Corey the scripture does not say the devil was always in him!! Matter fact Matthew 10:1-3 “ he gave them power” what was that power Corey? That text you use in the Old Testament did not name a person!! Did that verse name the name of Judas Iscariot? Remember Peter denied. Christ 3 times as well!! You would not call any man a believer if they denied Christ 3 times today would you?
Could Judas have repented? I suppose he could have, in principle--but when would that have been? Committing suicide isn't consistent with repentance. Sorrow for sin is a part of repentance, but not all of it.
I don't see evidence in the Bible that Judas was ever saved. Just because someone interacts with God or the things of God doesn't put them in a saved state. It seems that what we know of Judas would confirm that.
Jesus said it would have been better Judas had never been born and a son of perdition. His god was money not Christ. The Bible says there is a worldly sorry that leads to death. Worldly sorrow is only a guilty conscience. You dont lkle the consequence of your sin because of your love for Christ. You only want to avoid the feeling of guilt. A godly sorrow leads to repentance which leads to salvation. Its a genuine sorrow over sin because you love Christ and leads you to Christ. Judas did not repent. His guilty conscience didnt lead him back to Christ. He only wanted to feel from his guilt. Judas was not saved.
Let me make one more comment to all those who incorrectly believe Judas was never saved. Mark 6:7-13, Luke 9:1-6. In both of these passages,it says the Lord gave power and authority to the twelve to cast out demons and heal the sick, Judas included. It also says the twelve successfully cast out demons and healed the sick, Judas also included. How did they do this? Was it by the power of Satan or was it by the power of the Holy Spirit? Mark 3:20-27 Home in on Jesus speaking in verse 23. All twelve were filled with the Holy Spirit, Judas again included. I would like to conclude by using one of the teacher’s arguments against him to prove my point. In John 6:70 he correctly states that Jesus said, “Did I not choose you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil? Notice carefully, He did not say was a devil, which dovetails perfectly with Psalm 41:9. At this point, he turned against the Lord, betrayed Him,and ultimately ended up in Hell. I believe in the doctrine of eternal security, I just don’t believe it’s absolute. You’re eternally secure as long as you continue to believe in Jesus and His shed blood at Calvary. Don’t willfully turn or walk away from Jesus and you’ll be just fine.
@@nickjones1314 Unfortunately no. John 17:12 with the very words of Jesus. If you saw my response this morning, I acknowledge the fact that he’s in hell for all eternity.
@@jamesdick8681 Thank you for making my point James. I will admit that I was scratching my head on why it says Spirit of the Father in Matthew 10:20. You’ve given me the correct answer. However, it still begs the question, how could Judas, as well as the other eleven, cast out demons as well as heal all manner of sickness,unless they had some measure of the Spirit in them? I keep hearing this repeated claim that no one could be saved until Jesus resurrected from the dead. Stay tuned, I will be addressing that later today. Again, thanks for clearing up that point for me.
As someone who doesn't believe in osas I definitely don't think it biblical. Judas being saved whether he was or wasn't is a bad arginine because he waa doing ministry before the new testament ushered in yet. He was still under the old testament law.
I've never thought of Judas as being saved BUT as one of the 12, I assumed he would have been baptized in order to be considered a 'deciple'🥴. After all, Jesus washed his feet too!
We know Jesus referred to Judas as the one who didn't believe among the 12. So he was not saved up until the time Jesus was washing their feet just before the last supper we know Judas had not believed so was not saved. And according to the following verse we know certainly that Judas didn't die saved because he died cursed as human. Galatians 3:13 KJV (paraphrased) “Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one (or every human because it was given in the law) that hangeth on a tree:” Judas died hung on a tree and fell on the ground and got broken. The verse above was given referring to Jesus. The human Jesus, the lamb of God was cursed for 3 hours when he was on the tree/cross, but he didn't die cursed because just before he died God delivered him according to the following verse applicable to humans since the law: Psalms 34:17 KJV (paraphrased) “The righteous (not a righteousness of nature, but that of not being guilty of breaking the law like the perfect lamb of God) cry, and the LORD (God) heareth, and delivereth them out of all their troubles.” So when Jesus cried on the cross "My God, my God why has thou forsaken me", God delivered him from all his troubles; that means God restored all what he had lost because he was righteous according to the law and he was still the perfect lamb of God. That's why just before Jesus died, he could still refer to God as Father. He didn't said "My God into thy hands..." but rather "Father into thy hands I commit my spirit". Because the perfect fellowship with God was completely restored. So Jesus didn't die cursed unlike Judas who died cursed and went to hell.
I don't see how people can read what Jesus clearly says "But there are some of you who do NOT believe, for Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did NOT believe and who it was that would betray Him" [because he, the betrayer, was one of "those" who did NOT believe] and still think that Judas was a believer who was saved, when Jesus clearly says that we have to believe in order to be saved (John 5:24) .... o_0?!?
Well, the same way someone can read John 17 when Christ called his Father "The Only True God" and also read this passage here in John, where Christ says except "it has been granted him by the Father," and also read about how Christ was emphatic and purposeful about his Father being Known and Glorified as the One and Only True God that He is.... Yet, still believe (adamantly and sometimes arrogantly) that the trinity is true and even further, that the trinitarian doctrine is foundational to salvation. The people who believe this about Judas do the same things with scripture as those who believe that Christ is God as part of this trinity dogma.
You Go out into all the world and teach, and preach??@@BrandonAsburyI go with you, I help; Because we all need to Repent, turn from our wicked ways, our ways, today are wickedness before God, 2 Chronicles 7:14, If my people, who are called by my name, will turn from their wicked ways.....
@@BrandonAsburyJesus preached the Law to Jews who were under the Law. They thought their feeble attempts at keeping the Law justified them. But… “Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; because by the works of the Law none of mankind will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes knowledge of sin.” In other words, if you think obeying the commandments will save you, shut your arrogant mouth. “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” This is His commandment: stop insulting God by trying to earn His gift. Trust Him, not yourself.
Right.. And since judas was not saved and we know this is true. than Repentance is NOT what saves you either. It cant be both ways, because we see clearly that judas was feeling guilty about what he did, even to the fact he took his own life in guilt. So a if judas was not saved than repentance cant be what saves. So it all comes down to Faith in God, repentance is what takes place after knowledge of truth. its what begins a turning of faith from oneself (creation)to God (creator). So this argument is sound and scriptural. But one cannot say Repentance saves and Judas was not saved, it cant be both ways. So, yes this stands up to scripture.
Its a heart issue. Judas repented and turned back the silver he was rewarded. He killed himself out of guilt. Is God so small that He could not forgive Judas. I dont think so.
That makes to much sense Corey. It reminds me of the scriptures that said that Jesus came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it. That would include the prophesy as you spoke of in Psalms.
Exodus 20: 13 "Thou shalt not kill." Judas killed himself. 1 Corinthians 3: 17 "If any man defile the temple of God, *him shall God destroy;* for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are." Judas defiled his body which God says do not defile. Judas did not get a chance to repent because...dead. To me, it's clear where I THINK Judas went, but ultimately it's up to Christ who will judge him on that day.
Many pastors continue to tell their congregations that Judas was saved. He absolutely was not. Pastors us the fact that Judas tried to give back the money as being remorseful and this was his was of showing repentance. The fact that Judas took his own life, that's the part that pastors struggle with justifying Judas was saved because some of their members have losted loved ones the same way. Pastors rather put Judas in heaven then to offemd its members.
Yep it’s not suicide it’s because he didn’t believe. It doesn’t matter that he was remorseful he is not supposed to cry or be remorseful to men he was supposed to Cry and be remorseful to God by Praying to Christ for Forgiveness where he was crucified. If only he knew this verse Proverbs 24:16 King James Version (KJV) For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: But the wicked shall fall into mischief.
Judas died ahead of Jesus and went to hell. When Jesus died, he also went to hell to set the captives free (Ephesians 4:8-10, Revelation 1:18). Judas repented just before his death, which is why he ended up commiting suicide. Everything happened accordig to the plan of God (Acts 2:23, John 10:17-18). What evidence is there that he did not believe the Lord's word when it was preached to him in hades? If anything, he was a catalyst for the crucifixion of Jesus. Look who sold Joseph (the savoir of the family) in Genesis 37:26-27. Yes, Judah, AKA Judas. Was he not saved together with his brothers when they went to Egypt? Please draw lines on how a lamb was offered on the day of atonement and how Judas did it. Peter did the devil's bidding in Matthew 16:22. Was he not restored? Luke 22:54-61.
Judas was saved because he was given the same rights and authority as the other 11. But he gave up is own salvation by choice. God sees us to the end but does not force us or he could be called a dictator (more like the god of Tulip). Yes Jesus knows all things and he knew Judas would betray him...that does not translate to Judas not having free will to chose not to to betray him. This topic is truly separating the body of Christ because the osas supporters can twist it to fit their false teaching. I believe in osas but not the way it is taught by many. I 💯 believe in free will because it is mentioned in Genesis. Adam and Eve were told not to eat from a tree but they freely chose to eat from it and now the world pays the consequences of their choice. My kids are told not to eat too many cookies but they eat all of them and the consequences are a stomach ache...they chose to eat all and not listen to dad. Judas was a vessel God used but he still had a choice before its final outcome.
Judas was never saved period. I agree. Also, why every Christians that died we already “assume” he or she is going to heaven? 😂 ONLY GOD KNOWS! Cause the Bible says, good deeds and self righteousness & many more are filthy rags. If a person DOES NOT have a TRUE relationship with GOD, what makes you think his name is in the book of life aka VIP list? Remember, it is HIS Kingdom not yours or mine! Try knocking on someone’s house and ask to be let in and see what happens! You’ll either get shot or they’ll call a cop on you! WHY? There is NO relationship built up! A relationship that’s built with good intentions & motive. Sad to say, Christians today are only searching GOD for their own benefits. To be blessed & prosper! 🤷♂️ Y’all think GOD is dumb? 😂 This is why the road to “eternal life” remains NARROW! Let that sink it!
Acts 1:25....Judas went to his own place in hell. He is prototype of all apostates. So many a trapped by this sin. This sin never ennds well. Playing church isn't good!
@Bob.55 Sir, why would God the Father send His Son into the world to die for people who are not His sheep? Jesus said, My sheep hear My voice and a stranger they will not follow.
Judas was one time a saved man? He had the Holy Spirit and power like the other apostles and was a successful preacher and healer like them (Mt. 10:1-20; Mk. 6:7-13). He had his name written in Heaven, as proven by Acts 1:20 with Ps. 69:25-29. He fell from the apostleship by transgression (Acts 1:25). Judas was not a devil from the beginning? There is no such statement in the Bible. He was "a devil" or an adversary against Christ toward the latter part of His ministry and this is all the Bible does say about the question (Jn. 6:70). He was not always an adversary for he was once a saved man.
@@smartchristians He only had a measure of the spirit, not to be confused with the baptism in the spirit. One needs the spirit of God to cast out devils and raise the dead.. The disciples were given power by Jesus to do the work he sent them to do when they went out paired up, or by two. Even John the Baptist had the Spirit of God, but he died before Pentecost, which proves he never received the baptism in the Spirit. Mary the mother of Jesus even had the Holy Spirit.. I'm not in front of my Bible at the moment, but if you do a search of the word spirit with your Concordance, you'll come across a few scriptures of people in the new testament who had the Spirit of God. There's a difference between having the Spirit in a measure and without measure.. for example, one can fill a glass with water, but until it's submerged in water it is only filled. Once the glass is submerged in water, it is now filled and baptized. That is a great example of receiving the Spirit without measure. Jesus was full of the Holy Ghost, for God gave him the Spirit without measure, hence the mighty miracles he performed, for God anointed him with power and the Holy Ghost. Sad to say, but many Pentecostals, COGIC comes to mind, don't know the difference between being filled and being baptized in the Holy Ghost. They believe it's the same work. In fact, I have heard many members in COGIC tell brand new converts THEY AIN'T GOT NOTHING until they're baptized in the spirit. This attitude has turned many from that particular denomination. How can you be saved at 1pm and five minutes later you're told "You ain't got nothing" if you haven't received the baptism. The new birth is the work of the Spirit of God, and so is the baptism in the Spirit. Think about it. Who does Jesus baptize in the Spirit, those who are BORN OF THE SPIRIT, BORN FROM ABOVE, that is the work of the spirit IN THE HEART OF MEN, now you're a candidate for the baptism in the spirit, which is a second work of grace. The sole purpose for the baptism in the spirit is to give the Christian POWER to do the works of Christ and confirm the word of God. Many so called Christians lack this power, so, they fall back on "The Holy Ghost is a keeper, and without it you can't live holy". That's only partly true, because the very spirit of God is keeping you, if you choose, while seeking the baptism in the spirit.. Corey, I love your program, but the church is in a mess, especially when it comes to the spirit of God, many Christians are totally ignorant as to how the spirit of God works at salvation, during salvation, and especially after receiving the baptism in the Holy Ghost.. One of the many reasons we don't see the miracles signs and wonders we see in the book of Acts, is because the modern church has watered down the true purpose for the baptism in the spirit to nothing more than just a keeper. And we wonder why we don't have the power to go out in the world to be a better witness for Christ. No confirmation because the modern Church, as a whole, has no power.. Just like these so-called modern day Apostles.. NO POWER 👋
Matthew 26:24 KJV The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if *he had not been born.* After reading this, i think it's safe to say that Judas wasn't saved...
Not sure what you mean Isaiah 45:7 King James Version 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
I notice you conveniently stop short of verse 20, where the issue is quickly resolved. Let’s go back to the Old Testament where Jesus speaks prophetically of Judas. He says “Even my own familiar friend in whom I trusted, who ate my bread, has lifted up heel against me. Psalm 41:9 Jesus would never have sent an unsaved man who he didn’t trust out on a missionary journey. OK, you don’t accept Judas, so l’ll give you King Saul. Again, I believe in eternal security overwhelmingly as a Biblical doctrine, but not absolutely. Let me leave you with one Scripture verse, and I say this with all love and respect. James 3:1
I’m so happy I stumbled upon this channel. God bless you man, I’ve been bingeing your work and it’s clear you are walking in the Spirit🙏🏻
Yes. Jesus said, he chose the 12 but one of them was a devil. The Lord knows his sheep, for a stranger they will not follow. Amen
Jesus also gave all twelve power to cast out devils... A devil can't cast out devils, or his kingdom will be divided against itself and cannot stand, according to Jesus. Not only that, Jesus told the twelve their names were written in heaven 🤔
Let me pose the following questions and statements to those brethren who still don’t believe Judas was ever saved. 1. Would Christ have sent an unsaved man, full of the devil, and doing everything he could to destroy the work of God, out on a missionary journey? Psalm 41:9. 2. How could Judas become an apostle, preach the gospel, heal the sick, cast out demons, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, have the peace of God to give to a household, be a sheep in the midst of wolves, and be able to speak under the power, authority, and influence of the Father’s Spirit, if he was an unsaved soul never in grace? Matthew 10: 1-26, Mark 3:20-27. 3. What did Judas fall from? How could he do this if he was always a sinner and a devil as some say? Would not the Scripture say he died in his sins, like Jesus said to those Pharisees who never believed in Him? Acts 1:25, John 8:21-24. 4. How could Judas never be saved and have his name blotted out of the book of life? Psalm 69: 25-28 (David speaking prophetically). 5. To those who use 1 John 2:19 to speak about Judas, I would retort with Acts 1:15-17, Peter speaking, with emphasis on verse 17. 6. Lastly, let me counter the argument that no one was saved until Pentecost came. I would refer you to Jesus’s prayer for Himself, His disciples, and all His believers in John 17. According to Jesus, eleven made it to heaven and one did not. 7. In Luke 23:39-43, Jesus tells one of the thieves on the cross he would be with Him in Paradise. Deathbed conversions are very real and Biblical. This passage refutes all the Jesus plus theologies out there on the Christian landscape. Jesus + absolute eternal security, Jesus + baptism (it’s good to get baptized, although it’s not a requirement for salvation), Jesus + you must speak in a tongue, and Jesus + you must worship on Saturday (Seventh Day Adventists) All false. The correct answer is Jesus + nothing more or nothing less. Jesus alone. Revelation 22:18-1 9. I know there are many out there who disagree with my interpretation of this issue, and that’s fine. As a person of consensus, I believe we as Christians can unanimously agree that Judas was lost for all eternity. Some would say that he was never saved and some would say as I do that he was saved and then backslid and fell from the faith. Either way, we all end up on the same page, and that’s a good thing.
Question: Corey does the fact that he could not save Judas a weak God? Did Judas walk away from the faith? Did Judas have to betray Christ or did he choose to reject Christ? Does God force the will to do ANYTHING or does man make their own choice?
Curious to see Corey’s view on your questions, too. I view it as a decision God made pre-emptively not to save Judas. He used Judas to effectuate His plan of salvation, but I don’t believe this is an issue of whether God *could* save Judas.
Scripture shows that Judas was marked from the beginning for destruction, and Jesus indicates that Judas was fully responsible for his actions. This gets into the sticky issue of free will vs God’s sovereignty that often puts reformed folks at odds with non-reformed people.
Judas wasn’t elected to be saved. God could’ve saved him but chose not to.
God doesn’t force your will . He restrains wickedness and if it is apart of His decree He releases His hand to let you do the wicked things that are already within your sinful nature . So I would say that He limits our sinful will according to His purposes and for His glory.
@@Noah-rv9uj Where in the Bible does it say Judas was not elected to be saved?
Brother, thank you. I have been dealing with this with my pastor and other minister within the church I attend. I went to John 13: 10-11, "Jesus said to him, “He who is bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean; and you are clean, but not all of you.” For He knew who would betray Him; therefore He said, “You are not all clean.”
Jesus was clearly saving Judas was not saved! They try to use Judas going out with the 70 casting out demons and healing to say Judas was saved. In my rebuttal, If Jesus gives a command it would come to past. God told the devil he could do all he wants to do with Job but take Job' life. Demons is under God's commands also. Like the spirit who put a lie in the false prophets mouths of Ahab, in 1 Kings 22:19-23, And the Lord said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.
21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the Lord, and said, I will persuade him.
22 And the Lord said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so.
23 Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee."
“When He ascended on high,
He led captive a host of captives”
This is what I call an excellent demonstration of "rightly handling the word of truth.". Well done brother Corey!
Jip amen!!!!People think he lost his salvation but he was never saved to begin with!!!!
Judas was one time a saved man? He had the Holy Spirit and power like the other apostles and was a successful preacher and healer like them (Mt. 10:1-20; Mk. 6:7-13). He had his name written in Heaven, as proven by Acts 1:20 with Ps. 69:25-29. He fell from the apostleship by transgression (Acts 1:25).
Judas was not a devil from the beginning? There is no such statement in the Bible. He was "a devil" or an adversary against Christ toward the latter part of His ministry and this is all the Bible does say about the question (Jn. 6:70). He was not always an adversary for he was once a saved man.
@MatthewMencias so you are saying two things if I'm correct...
1.The Holy Ghost was not strong enough to keep his salvation?
2.That God is not all knowing?
@@mariodebeer I'm saying that man is a free moral agent. Man can freely choose to serve God or not. This is why Joshua told the children of Israel to "Choose you this day whom you will serve". All the Holy Ghost in the world is not going to force anyone to stay saved if they choose not to.. it's called backsliding, just like ancient Israel constantly did, and Christians do it all the time today... Concerning God being all knowing, God's knowing had nothing to do with Adam and Eve willfully disobeying God. God knew they would disobey one billion years BEFORE he created them. They disobeyed God because they chose to.. God's knowing doesn't interfere with or stop the choices we make.. If you DECIDE to blow your brains out, God knows, but most of the time he'll allow you to do it.. We have freedom of choice. Satan has it, and the angels have it.
All i remember about Judas is they said he was a thief and Jesus said he was a devil...He said to the 12 havent i chosen you 12 and 1 if you is a devil anf before he was gonna betray the lord Jesus it said satan entered judas...He obviously betrayed him for 30 pieces of silver and after jesus was put to death he was crying talking bout he betrayed innocent blood and his bowels gushed out in this place called the field of blood something like that and its called that to this day...This man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity i remember the scripture saying something like that
@@kevinb.1454 No he wasnt..satan didnr enter the other apostles of christ
What about the Holy Spirit being taken from Saul Corey?
That is a good question. My understanding is he denied Jesus not betrayed Him. Samuel also said as well he’d be with him.
The holy spirit was never in anyone in the old testament, it came upon them. When Saul was anointed king of Israel, the Holy Spirit came upon him (1 Samuel 10:10), but when God removed His blessing on Saul, the Holy Spirit left him (1 Samuel 16:14). The Holy Spirit came for specific moments or seasons in the lives of Othniel (Judges 3:10), Gideon (Judges 6:34), and Samson (Judges 13:25; 14:6) as well, to enable them to do His will and serve Israel. At Pentecost, the Holy Spirit was poured out on all believers in Christ, and He came to stay. This marked a major change in the Holy Spirit’s work.
An issue related to losing the Holy Spirit is eternal security. There is debate among Christians about whether or not someone can lose his or her salvation. To lose salvation would be to lose the Holy Spirit who provides it. In fact, Scripture says that the Holy Spirit “seals” our salvation until we experience its completion in the presence of God (Ephesians 1:13; 4:30). For the Holy Spirit to vacate a heart that He had promised to seal would make Him unfaithful. One of the Holy Spirit’s tasks, after moving into a believing heart, is transforming that person into the image of Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17; Romans 8:29), and we have the promise that “he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion” (Philippians 1:6). We do not believe the Spirit will undo His work of regeneration, give up on His transformative work, or redefine eternal life to mean “temporary life.”
Since we did not “find” the Holy Spirit, it is doubtful that we can “lose” Him. Some take issue with the word lose and say that, while a Christian cannot lose the Holy Spirit, he or she can forfeit the gifts and salvation He brings by a willful renouncement of Him. However, Ephesians 1:13 says, “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit.” Can a believer truly break the seal placed on him by God? The Holy Spirit is the mark of a true believer; therefore, to lose Him would be to lose any hope of salvation in the future.
What causes confusion on this issue is that we cannot know whether someone else has truly been born of the Spirit or whether he is the “shallow soil” as Jesus described in Luke 8:1-15. Some people seem excited to follow Jesus and may exhibit what appear to be supernatural gifts, but they were never truly born again. Jesus addresses those people with a stern warning in Matthew 7:21-23. Many people profess to have the Holy Spirit but eventually prove that they were imposters when their lives turn away from following Him (see Romans 8:14). Such people did not lose the Holy Spirit; He was never theirs at all (1 John 2:19).
@@aishahill4379 with him in sheol not heaven
In the ot the spirit couod be taken away not New Testament
@@Kingjamesbible161 verse? Or just an opinion?
Betray is akin to the word Traitor. On one side and went to another. He possibly repented for he gave the money back.
I would like to gain some understanding on several topics of the word from your perspective
Question: Who has the authority to say who is saved? If only God have that authority then how can any human ( pastor) say who is or who is not saved?
Exactly, thats why john 13 says Judas was not cleaned. The Bible tells us he wasnt
Correct you can only make a judgement based on what the lord tells you in scripture the bible tells us he was a devil a thief satan entered him he betrayed him.jesus for 30 pieces of silver and it would have been better if he had never been born etc
@@user-uv3jp1tj5pif he was a devil how did he cast out demons ?
@@kirillsergeyev7116 he didnt cast out demons theres no record of in the whole kjv bible of judas casting demons out of people like others deciples of the lord jesus christ and he did not receive the holy spirit like other apostles he was only added to the 12 to betray jesus he was already wicked so since he chose that was Gods purpose for him to do what he normally does do wickedness and betray jesus and after his death he got replaced by a true christian mathias..The devil cant cast out devils
My argument to this conclusion to him not being saved, just to give another perspective is the position of the son of perdition could have been any one of the 12. Jesus had to rebuke Peter and says get the behind me Satan after Peter had just spoken what the Father revealed to him. Also to add this point, Jesus tells Peter that Satan has desired to have him or sift him as wheat. But the Lord said he prayed for him that his Faith don't fail. But the scripture says Satan put it in Judas heart to betray Jesus and Satan entered into Judas. We try to read scripture and give answers from the knowledge only the Lord has unless it's revealed unto us.
I have always wondered about this question. If it was God's plan to sacrifice his son then if Judas didn't do his part it wouldn't have happened right?
You don't have a part to do, if we do something to be justified we would not be saved by Grace, we would be saved by our ability to follow directions. Jesus told Nicodemus we had to be born again (from above), we do not makes ourselves born from above only God does that. Jesus was referring to
Ezekiel 36:25-27 where God said;
25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Notice who is talking God, notice he did not ask Israel to do anything, notice the condition is a heart issue, God said he would take out the heart and put in a new heart, notice God put his spirit in them and caused them to walk in his ways, after you are born from above you can chose and continue to chose, obey and abide in Jesus. God does the work not us.
Uh... that makes it sound like the Father essentially had it guaranteed that Judas and only Judas was going to betray... thus making it seem as though it was fate... like some who teach the erroneous predestination lie...
Rather, I believe it was more about the Father knowing the enemy and how he would attack His Son... thus, the enemy was going to certainly get to someone in Christ inner circle...
Remember, Christ called others who were not the 12 as well and I believe satan also tried to get to as many who were close... then once the 12 were established, perhaps he focused on them.... Christ even told Peter that satan actually requested to sift Peter like wheat....
My point is that The Father knew how the enemy would attack and would certainly succeed in turning one close to His Son... who that one was to be wasn't necessarily fixed... as we see in this passage of John, there were others who didn't believe yet... along with Judas.
As such, Judas was not absolved from his CHOICE... he still chose to betray the Lord... he was not forced or predestined to do so.
@@gd512826 Hate to burst your bubble but Judas was predestined and created for his specific purpose. This is textbook predestination. He was created to be unsaved, evil and to betray Christ.
@@brianabbott8102God created an evil human? If so, is God at fault for all the evil people that have been born?
@@555chanYes. Actually according to the Bible we are all evil born in sin. God doesn't force anyone to Sin, but he can accomplish his purposes through sinful creatures. Acts 2:23 " This man was handed over to you by God’s deliberate plan and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross. ". Nobody forced Judas to sin, but God let him do his thing to accomplish his purpose.
Where did Judas go after he died?
Where does Jesus go after He dies but before He resurrects?
Who is there when He goes there?
To his own place like the word says - hell
Hell Christ has the keys to hell and death .
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Amen HalleluYAH!. YAH will use whoever He wishes, whenever He wishes, for whatever He wishes. HalleluYAH! ❤🙏
I came to know Christ in jail in 2013 by reading a book, "Overcoming spiritual blindness" by James P. Gills MD. The veil was taken off my eyes. Heaven came through for me in my finances too, getting $43,000 monthly. I can support God's work and give back to my community. God is absolutely more than enough!
God is more than enough for us, and his mercy is new every morning. Hallelujah
Isaiah 45:3 speaks of a transference of riches from the heathen to the righteous... I will give you the treasures of darkness and the riches hidden in secret... I receive this for my household in Jesus' name. Amen!
He said we shouldn't bother about what to wear or eat. He is more than enough, as he supplies my needs according to his riches in glory. I can't love him less
What a testimony!!!
I'm genuinely curious to know how you earn that much monthly
What about verses in John 21:20-23? Jesus says the disciple that betrayed Him would not die; however, Judas is already dead by this point.
Wouldn’t this mean Judas would not die the Second Death?
I think you need to read those verses again, including verse 24. John is the disciple Peter and Jesus are speaking of.
Jesus said it would have been better I he would not have been born. That tells you everything
Yeah that. If Jesus Himself says better for that man had he never been born...yeeeeah. Of all the people we're sure are in Hell, we're more sure Judas is in Hell than we are Hitler.
@freegracejake42 ...come on man. Jesus Himself said better for that man had he never been born. Call a spade a spade.
@freegracejake42 the Bible is always right. Rightly Divide the Word...and then practically apply it.
@freegracejake42 let me put it this way: did you argue the point when Jesus told the good thief he was going to Heaven? No? Then don't argue when He says Judas went to Hell
I had a friend who believed that he listen to a guy named Sam samou ,I believe he said told him ,I showed him the scriptures where it showed he never was
Jesus said don't come rejoicing because the devil's obey you....
But rejoice because your names are written in the book of Life..... And Judas was with them when he said that...
He was making a statement of truth, that doesn’t mean it pertained to everyone who heard the words.
Thumbnail click bait? Lol
Similar question about another person in the Bible: was King Nebuchadnezzar saved? I would lean to the side of no, as he has a similar situation to other people in the Bible to acknowledge Gods existence and sovereignty, but the main difference is that there is a section in the book of Daniel that is an excerpt of what appears to be written by him (correct me if I'm wrong) at the end of chapter 4. I find it hard to believe that the writing of a non-believer / someone not filled with the holy spirit, would make it into the Bible.
I have a lot of questions to ask you. You have a lot of knowledge but there are many things that I never hear you speak on
This has always made me wonder. Because I have never understood why Jesus would give authority to preach, heal and cast out demons to someone who He said was a devil. Is this what is happening in the church? Is God using people who are 'devils' and giving them authority and power in His church to preach and do other spiritual things? I mean God is the same yesterday, today and forever more. If He used the 'devil' Judas to go forth is His power and authority to preach, heal and cast out demons, who says He is not still using 'devils' to get His work done today? And if He is, then maybe I can better understand why the church is in such a downfall. Paul did talk about the qualifications of a bishop. Correct me if I am wrong, but among all the things he said to Timothy about the qualifications of a pastor, he didn't say that he must be born again and full of the Spirit of God. Maybe he didn't mention it because being born again and full of the Spirit was a given. The qualifications for pastor seem to indicate the one must be a good upstanding man of good reputation. One who's house is in order and not given to much wine. So will God use a man who meets all the qualifications but who is not born again and full of the Spirit? I mean I want to say no way would He use someone who is not at lease born again. But then again, He used Judas. Who He said was a devil.
Judas situation brings up this question, Can a person remain saved without continuing to obey? Judas obeyed and believed in Jesus until his betrayal. Not saying he was saved
He loved money
He died before the cross, went into his torment before the dispensation of grace, he is definitely not saved !!
GOOD ONE COREY GOD BLESS YOU FOR HIS TRUTH
Who said something like this? 😕
Judas hung himself, saved people, if they're truly saved, would they hang themselves? I'd really like to know the answer to that question. A saved individual, why would anyone commit suicide if they're saved? Corey, please advise, thank you so much, 🙏🏾♥️🙏🏾
So they’re saved. David was saved but Commited murder and adultery. Sin is sin all is forgiven for Christ paid for our sins. It does not mean to freely sin it means we are saved from not going to hell when we sin but we pay our family members pay and others pay for our sins. It’s not the suicide but his unbelieving that caused him to go to Hell. He was the only apostle that called him just master while the other ones referred to him as Lord.
KJV
2 corithians 12:19-21
19 Again, think ye that we excuse ourselves unto you? we speak before God in Christ: but we do all things, dearly beloved, for your edifying.
20 For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults:
21 And lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed.
And corithians 5:1-5
It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.
2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,
4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
You can still be Saved. Suicide is usually an act of cowardice, unselfishness
Awesome study . Thank The Lord Jesus Christ from who all blessings flow.
When did Judas lose his salvation? Does anyone that is saved have the Holy Ghost? Can you be saved without the Holy Ghost?
Peter in the book of Acts referes to the ancient prophecies concerning Judas and his fate let alone the proof of the "Field of blood" which exist even to this day. Salvation is, and has always been according to God's will not mans choice or deeds.
He was chosen📖🕊🙏🔥
chosen to do what? Aren't we told by prophecy that one would be chosen to betray Jesus?
@@smartchristians did he chose you?we all betrayed him?are you perfect?
What do you say about the prodigal son in scripture? The Father said he was dead but now is alive. Dead spiritually because he left His Fathers house or dead because The Father thought he was physically dead?
Is this saying you could be alive by faith but then become dead by leaving the faith?
”But as soon as this son of yours came, who has devoured your livelihood with harlots, you killed the fatted calf for him.’ “And he said to him, ‘Son, you are always with me, and all that I have is yours. It was right that we should make merry and be glad, for your brother was dead and is alive again, and was lost and is found.’ ”“
Luke 15:30-32
Luke 15 the parable of the prodigal son, one of my commentary quotes this is sometimes called “ The parable of the Perfect Father “, as a matter of fact the “Father (God) “ is the hero of the story “ A certain man”( God) and his response to his two sons is what the parable is all about. (Not so much Judas at all)The primary lesson of the parable is to show the difference between Gods attitude toward sinners and that of the Pharisees( the elder brother), it is undoubtedly intentional that Jesus said this “certain man” had only Two sons. Two sons prodigal(sinners) and petulant (Pharisees) that’s all the sons God has(except His Perfect Son). All mankind falls into one category or the other those who openly rebel and admit they are sinners, and those who s pretend they are not. Humanity falls either prodigal or Pharisee there is no other breed of man outside the grace of God. So the story of Luke 15 has more to do with Deuteronomy 21:17 , and Mathew 12:30 , James 5:19-20 then anything to do with Judas another prodigal son, or Acts 5 incident.
He repented, Do a deeper study around the 30 pieces of silver and the true meaning behind that. Also he did not commit suicide by hanging, he was split open.
Act 1:15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)
Act 1:16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.
Act 1:17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry.
Act 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.
Mat 27:3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
The chief priests and elders hanged him. HE REPENTED!
This was going to happen just as sure as Peter denied Christ 3 times before cock crowed
It’s awesome you say lets” do a deeper study” let’s do one on “falling headlong”, “ field of blood”. “Falling headlong”could it be possible it was a medical term for “swelling up”( Moultan and Milligan the vocabulary of the Greek Testament pg 535-536) even some English translations CJB,Phillips, Mofatt and Godspeed. Field of blood is Greek translation of an Aramaic word. It is always difficult to uniformly transpose from one language to another. Despite the Greek spelling variations the Aramaic means “Field of blood” this could mean,
A field bought with blood money Mathew 27:7,
A field where blood was shed Act 1:18,
Or a field where murders or foreigners (strangers)were buried Mat 27:7. Act 1:20 are 2 quotes from psalm 69:25, and the second is from psalm 109:8 and provides the prophetic replacement for Judas as discussed In Acts 1:21-26.
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Fact of the matter is, Judas repented, and for Corey to say he is not saved is making himself God. Do you know why God is judge and not man?
Luk 16:15 And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.
Jas 4:12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
@@denisemaxwell51 Do you know how to rightly divide the word of God? Them verses you pulled out of context have nothing to do with what ever you are try to apply them in context. Luke is referring to either a public weekly alms giving or ostentatious giving in the temple, Luke often records Jesus teachings about this kind of self righteousness, this was the PROBLEM of the PHARISEES.
James 4:12 this is another reference to monotheism as in jame 2:19 and probably an illusion to Deuteronomy 6:4, these phrases is often used of God the Father ( Mathew 10:28,Luke 12:4-5) in the OT all causality is attributed to YWHH this is still another way of asserting monotheism Deu 32:39,1 Sam 2:6-7,2 king:5-7, judging criticizing or comparing makes one look better at another expense which is another inappropriate use of the tongue.Mathew 7:1 Christians have a tendency to be critical of one another. This verse is quoted to prove that Christians should not judge each other at all BUT, Mathew 7:5-6, Mathew 7:15, 1 Corinthians 5:1-12
Jesus was assuming that believers evaluate one another spiritually one attitude and motives are the keys Galatians 6:1,Romans 2:1-11,Romans 14:1-23, Jas 4:11-12 them 3 verses you used have nothing to do with Corey or defending Mary good luck.
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Pro 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
I will not longer reply to your foolishness.
So bye fool.
How's that for rightly dividing the truth.
@@denisemaxwell51 LOL , I love you God love you to proverbs 26:4-5 make a revealing couplet, they contradict each other and for a good reason. There is no way to deal with a fool. If you answer him accordingly, accurately to his folly? Like him, on the other hand if you answer a fool accordingly to his folly he will think himself like yourself. It’s is impossible to reason with a fool. They are convinced in thee own mind. People exhorts people to get away from fools( pro14:7) . Sticks and stones can break my bones but YOUR words DENISE Maxwell 51 will never hurt me LOL. God bless in the name of JESUS!!!!
So you think Jesus chose a demon to be an Apostle. That's not smart my friend. Jesus told Peter to get behind me Satan as well. Was Peter a fraud as well?
Corey, could Judas have changed his mind about betraying Jesus?
He couodve have and had free will like anyone else but he didn’t
But he was chosen by Christ to be the “son of perdition “? If he changed his mind then the prophecy Christ cited would not have been fulfilled?
Even you are chosen for a role, so are you saved?
As for judas the same as every human. Each person choses for himself heaven or hell.
God knew the outcome but didnt chose for hell for judas , judas chose for himself, silver
exactly
I agree about Judas.
My mind keeps replayin Jesus saying "I never knew you" though...... Yeshua knew Judas though right? They walked beside each other literally.......
Anyone care to attempt to make that sound right?
Cause im having a hard time with the "never knew you" verse in accordance with Judas......
Right, Chose for WHAT?
Many arguments for Insecurity pivot on attributing to children of God what false converts do.
TheBible never said that Judas was a devil. Christ said “ Did I not choose you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil? There’s a big difference between was and is. Judas turned on Jesus toward the close of His ministry. John 6:70 To see what Jesus thought about Judas prior to his earthly ministry, go to Psalm 41:9.
Judas has tasted the goodness of God but yet had fallen away. It is impossible for him to return once fallen away. [Hebrews 6:4-6].
Did Judas heal the sick, raise the dead, and cast out devils?
We know that the twelve disciples were given to do all those things. But that raises another question.
Yes, Judas did all that the other apostles did!
Amen brother Corey. Just bc he was chosen by the LORD himself don't mean he was saved!
@@MatthewMencias blah blah blah 🤪
Question. If Judas wasn't saved, and was a devil, why would Jesus give him power to cast out devils and unclean spirits? Jesus plainly taught that a Kingdom divided against itself cannot stand 🤔🤔
@@kevinb.1454Because Jesus can't deny himself as his word is true and faithful as he said in his name you will cast out demons even you who can believe and say in Jesus name can you cast out demons but doesnt mean you are saved . living a willingly sinful lifestyle not abiding in christ still being a fornicator, theif , adulterer etc never wanting to change and leaving you sinful lifestyle . They will send you to hell and you will hear these words .
Matthew 7:23
King James Version
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Notice it says ye that work iniquity meaning immoral or "grossly unfair behavior" its not OSAS .
1 Peter 1:15-16
King James Version
15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
Hebrews 12:14
King James Version
14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
@@MatthewMencias Absolutely correct, my point exactly... Or Jesus would have never given all the disciples power to cast out devils and unclean spirits.
@@RichardHulk Jesus also told his disciples that their names were written in heaven 🤔
Corey @smartchristians Um my comment? Don’t see it anywhere? I shared why not say which channel you saw this at? It was my channel. At least let people know. And I asked if you would be willing to have a discussion. Are you? Or will this be removed as well?
John 6:44
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw ( salvation process )him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Philippians 1:6
Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work ( salvation process ) in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ ( Resurrection ).
Salvation is a process just like a covenant is also a process!!!
God started the process of the salvation of the twelve disciples ( including Judas )through Christ; just like planting twelve trees hoping that all of them will be fruitful ( you don't plant one bad one intentionally and turn around and blame the tree for being fruitless).
Judas fell off the wagon because he refused to be discipled in accordance to Christ's teachings and instructions.
Salvation is instant it’s not a process cause Christ said it’s finshed your realtiship ans walk and getting to know him is a process
Ephesians 1:13
King James Version
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Did Judas endure till the end?
No
With all due respect and love, the Scriptures declare that Judas was a saved man before he betrayed the Lord. Please note Matthew 10: 5-20, when the Lord sent twelve men out on a missionary journey. Slip on down to verse 20 where it says the Spirit of the Father would be in each of the twelve. He had the Holy Spirit in him. Case closed. The reason it says Father is because Jesus had not yet gone to the cross. Spirit of the Father, Spirit of Jesus, and Holy Spirit are all three co-equal members of the Triune Godhead. Please note the Scripture says that by transgression Judas fell. How can you fall from something you never had to begin with? If it said that he died in his sins, which is what Christ told the unbelieving Pharisees who would not believe in Him in John 8, you would be on more solid ground.
No. Pay attention to what Jesus says in verse 17 “But beware of men, for they will hand you over to the courts and scourge you bin their synagogues; 18 and you will even be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles. 19 “aBut when they hand you over, do not worry about how or what you are to say; for it will be given you in that hour what you are to say.
This did not happen to Judas. He was speaking of what would come and this certainly happened to the apostles after Pentecost.
no he wasnt jesus told the 12 havent i chosen you 12 and one of you is a devil talking about him we know he was a thief too a terrible one i guess but after that it talks about satan entering judas and the lord told him what youre about to do do quickly..You betray the son of man with a kiss the lord said to him and the lord said he goes as it is written of him but woe to the man by whom he is betrayed it were better if that man had never been born..So sounds like judas is doomed...the others are not damned or in danger of eternal hell fire..
Amen Brother! It Is Written!
KJV - Revelation 19 : 10 "For The Testimony of Jesus is The Spirit of Prophecy.”
Who in the world says that?
Saved or not, Judas had all the best musical numbers.
The good shepherd does not lose his sheep, the sheep even after chasing and fighting for them and praying for them and dying for them go on in their sin and leave. Be wise, your human smarts are failing
Amen, Brother Corey, Judas was Not Savesd. If he was Saved he would not have Betrayed JESUS , our LORD and SAVIOR.
Was Judas saved ? Yes , until he forgave his salvation for a price.
He wasn't called a disciple for no reason. God knew and God forgave.
Man John 14 Matthew 5 1 John if anyone says they know me but doesn't keep my commandments he is a liar so anybody falling short of keeping that doctrine how can I take you serious? . If one can't lose salvation explain that to a lot of the Jewish people because that's why only a remnant made it out and that's why you got the gospel because they are descendants from the remnant... And tell that to the angels who are chained in the abyss that you can't lose your salvation because they're wondering how that happened... It's called free will...
The book of Thessalonians clearly says this Don’t be fooled by anything they might say. That day of the Lord will not come (until the turning away from God happens.) And that day will not come until the Man of Evil appears, the one who belongs to hell.
Man it says apostasy so that means no secret rapture none of that can happen until the many fall away from God so you can fall way and stray away from God you can walk away from salvation? Yes you can. Don't be fooled or let a fool give you fools gold. Because the very people who was taught by the disciples who was taught by Jesus taught you could lose your salvation... Now argue with God because it seems that people have a problem with him and yet they teach causing people to stumble.
Thou shalt not bear false witness
Judas exchanged Christ for 30 pieces of silver. He was blind to the Glory of God in the face of Christ.
Yahshau said I picked all of you and one of the devil. So he always knew one was picked for this task and would be better if not born. If you are Christian you can not be possessed because light(holy spirt) and dark(devil) can not live in the same house which is your body(house) at the same time. So he had to not be save for this to happen at all being possessed of the devil if saved.
If Jesus wasnt resurrected yet was anyone saved?
How could he be when he died before the human blood sacrifice? How could anyone be saved before the sacrifice
You mean the sacrifice of Jesus, right? Old Testament saints were saved by grace through faith just like Christians today. The only difference is that they looked forward to the Messiah and His life, death, burial and resurrection as God revealed as early as in the garden of Eden (Genesis 3:15) continued to reveal throughout the law and the prophets. Today, we look back towards the Cross and put our faith in Jesus’s finished work.
So the fact that he dies before Jesus’s death and resurrection is not the reason Judas wasn’t saved
@@Blueb937 Where in the bible does it indicate that the common man was saved before Jesus had the blood sacrifice?
@@Blueb937 I dont know judas wasnt saved and I dont think we know if he was saved or not. I'm just using basic logic. The bible says its only way to the kingdom and that is through Jesus. Well if Jesus ain't had the blood sacrifice then it's no way to heaven. Unless you float up on a cloud like a couple of the prophets.
But you know I don’t think Judas thought from the beginning he would betray Jesus. Wonder why he never believed? Was he never called?
I can tell you speak & teach with authority, so therefore, you are a worthy priesthood holder, I am new to Christianity, so please excuse my choice of words, am I on the right path? is the true gospel and Church of Jesus Christ organized in this way? like how the Catholic church and Mormon church have deacons, teachers, priest, etc. Please let me know in simple terms as I have said, I am very new to Christianity, so please take no offense if I accidentally offended anyone, thank you.. .. ..
I have wondered what he may have said before hanging himself. Obviously he felt guilt and I assume remorse for selling Jesus out. But it doesn’t say he repented. Idk. I’m not gonna venture to say Judas didn’t get forgiveness, but if he did I’d think the guilt wouldn’t have led him to suicide. Either way we’ll know when we get there. I just wanna be extra careful because he was a disciple and everyone always says we will be surprised who will be there and who won’t.
Corey the scripture does not say the devil was always in him!! Matter fact Matthew 10:1-3 “ he gave them power” what was that power Corey? That text you use in the Old Testament did not name a person!! Did that verse name the name of Judas Iscariot? Remember Peter denied. Christ 3 times as well!! You would not call any man a believer if they denied Christ 3 times today would you?
Would you say about Judas repenting?
I've seen some say that since Judas repented he became saved
I'd like to see them cite the book, chapter, and verse in which that happened.
Could Judas have repented? I suppose he could have, in principle--but when would that have been? Committing suicide isn't consistent with repentance. Sorrow for sin is a part of repentance, but not all of it.
Judas didn't repent, he only acknowledged his wrong. Thinking Jesus was going to show his hand and kill the ruling Romans.
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They use the part where Judas returned the money to say he did
Bruh.. I thought I was missing something lol. I’m like why are ppl saying this when he clearly was NEVER saved
This has never been discussed or explained like this before. Again thank you Brother Corey 🙏🏽
I don't see evidence in the Bible that Judas was ever saved. Just because someone interacts with God or the things of God doesn't put them in a saved state. It seems that what we know of Judas would confirm that.
Jesus said it would have been better Judas had never been born and a son of perdition. His god was money not Christ. The Bible says there is a worldly sorry that leads to death. Worldly sorrow is only a guilty conscience. You dont lkle the consequence of your sin because of your love for Christ. You only want to avoid the feeling of guilt. A godly sorrow leads to repentance which leads to salvation. Its a genuine sorrow over sin because you love Christ and leads you to Christ. Judas did not repent. His guilty conscience didnt lead him back to Christ. He only wanted to feel from his guilt. Judas was not saved.
Let me make one more comment to all those who incorrectly believe Judas was never saved. Mark 6:7-13, Luke 9:1-6. In both of these passages,it says the Lord gave power and authority to the twelve to cast out demons and heal the sick, Judas included. It also says the twelve successfully cast out demons and healed the sick, Judas also included. How did they do this? Was it by the power of Satan or was it by the power of the Holy Spirit? Mark 3:20-27 Home in on Jesus speaking in verse 23. All twelve were filled with the Holy Spirit, Judas again included. I would like to conclude by using one of the teacher’s arguments against him to prove my point. In John 6:70 he correctly states that Jesus said, “Did I not choose you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil? Notice carefully, He did not say was a devil, which dovetails perfectly with Psalm 41:9. At this point, he turned against the Lord, betrayed Him,and ultimately ended up in Hell. I believe in the doctrine of eternal security, I just don’t believe it’s absolute. You’re eternally secure as long as you continue to believe in Jesus and His shed blood at Calvary. Don’t willfully turn or walk away from Jesus and you’ll be just fine.
So Judas is in heaven?
@@nickjones1314 Unfortunately no. John 17:12 with the very words of Jesus. If you saw my response this morning, I acknowledge the fact that he’s in hell for all eternity.
They hadn’t been filled with the Spirit till Pentecost. Jesus said the Spirit couldn’t come till Jesus left.
@@jamesdick8681 Thank you for making my point James. I will admit that I was scratching my head on why it says Spirit of the Father in Matthew 10:20. You’ve given me the correct answer. However, it still begs the question, how could Judas, as well as the other eleven, cast out demons as well as heal all manner of sickness,unless they had some measure of the Spirit in them? I keep hearing this repeated claim that no one could be saved until Jesus resurrected from the dead. Stay tuned, I will be addressing that later today. Again, thanks for clearing up that point for me.
As someone who doesn't believe in osas I definitely don't think it biblical. Judas being saved whether he was or wasn't is a bad arginine because he waa doing ministry before the new testament ushered in yet. He was still under the old testament law.
Study From the beginning, don't start in the middle of their walk with Christ to start justifying a false doctrine man.
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power there of.
I've never thought of Judas as being saved BUT as one of the 12, I assumed he would have been baptized in order to be considered a 'deciple'🥴. After all, Jesus washed his feet too!
Baptized is worthless unto salvation of your soul.
Jesus baptized, every single one of his 12 disciples. Do you think Jesus would have baptized a man who was not saved. I don’t think so.
Go read john 13
@@ashlimyers207 i dont think there is a verse talking about Jesus baptizing anybody
@@ashlimyers207 Jesus didn’t baptize a single person
We know Jesus referred to Judas as the one who didn't believe among the 12. So he was not saved up until the time Jesus was washing their feet just before the last supper we know Judas had not believed so was not saved.
And according to the following verse we know certainly that Judas didn't die saved because he died cursed as human.
Galatians 3:13 KJV (paraphrased)
“Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one (or every human because it was given in the law) that hangeth on a tree:”
Judas died hung on a tree and fell on the ground and got broken.
The verse above was given referring to Jesus. The human Jesus, the lamb of God was cursed for 3 hours when he was on the tree/cross, but he didn't die cursed because just before he died God delivered him according to the following verse applicable to humans since the law:
Psalms 34:17 KJV (paraphrased)
“The righteous (not a righteousness of nature, but that of not being guilty of breaking the law like the perfect lamb of God) cry, and the LORD (God) heareth, and delivereth them out of all their troubles.”
So when Jesus cried on the cross "My God, my God why has thou forsaken me", God delivered him from all his troubles; that means God restored all what he had lost because he was righteous according to the law and he was still the perfect lamb of God.
That's why just before Jesus died, he could still refer to God as Father. He didn't said "My God into thy hands..." but rather "Father into thy hands I commit my spirit". Because the perfect fellowship with God was completely restored. So Jesus didn't die cursed unlike Judas who died cursed and went to hell.
I don't see how people can read what Jesus clearly says "But there are some of you who do NOT believe, for Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did NOT believe and who it was that would betray Him" [because he, the betrayer, was one of "those" who did NOT believe] and still think that Judas was a believer who was saved, when Jesus clearly says that we have to believe in order to be saved (John 5:24) .... o_0?!?
Well, the same way someone can read John 17 when Christ called his Father "The Only True God" and also read this passage here in John, where Christ says except "it has been granted him by the Father," and also read about how Christ was emphatic and purposeful about his Father being Known and Glorified as the One and Only True God that He is....
Yet, still believe (adamantly and sometimes arrogantly) that the trinity is true and even further, that the trinitarian doctrine is foundational to salvation.
The people who believe this about Judas do the same things with scripture as those who believe that Christ is God as part of this trinity dogma.
I Don't get how people can't keep his commandments John 14 but have the nerve to speak.
@@BrandonAsbury I finally met someone who kept all of his law.. his name is Brandon🤦🏾♂️
You Go out into all the world and teach, and preach??@@BrandonAsburyI go with you, I help;
Because we all need to Repent, turn from our wicked ways, our ways, today are wickedness before God, 2 Chronicles 7:14, If my people, who are called by my name, will turn from their wicked ways.....
@@BrandonAsburyJesus preached the Law to Jews who were under the Law. They thought their feeble attempts at keeping the Law justified them. But…
“Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; because by the works of the Law none of mankind will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes knowledge of sin.”
In other words, if you think obeying the commandments will save you, shut your arrogant mouth. “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.”
This is His commandment: stop insulting God by trying to earn His gift. Trust Him, not yourself.
Right.. And since judas was not saved and we know this is true. than Repentance is NOT what saves you either. It cant be both ways, because we see clearly that judas was feeling guilty about what he did, even to the fact he took his own life in guilt. So a if judas was not saved than repentance cant be what saves. So it all comes down to Faith in God, repentance is what takes place after knowledge of truth. its what begins a turning of faith from oneself (creation)to God (creator). So this argument is sound and scriptural. But one cannot say Repentance saves and Judas was not saved, it cant be both ways. So, yes this stands up to scripture.
Its a heart issue. Judas repented and turned back the silver he was rewarded. He killed himself out of guilt. Is God so small that He could not forgive Judas. I dont think so.
That makes to much sense Corey. It reminds me of the scriptures that said that Jesus came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it. That would include the prophesy as you spoke of in Psalms.
Exodus 20: 13 "Thou shalt not kill." Judas killed himself.
1 Corinthians 3: 17 "If any man defile the temple of God, *him shall God destroy;* for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are."
Judas defiled his body which God says do not defile. Judas did not get a chance to repent because...dead.
To me, it's clear where I THINK Judas went, but ultimately it's up to Christ who will judge him on that day.
I COMPLETELY disagree. It has been on my spirit to cover this since @2014/15...THIS is the final sign that I NEED to do it ASAP!
No one knows god alone knows
He was always a devil from jump!!!
Jesus said it himself "One of you is a Devil". He said this out for all of the disciples to hear.
Great information Corey
Can you prove Judas is in hell.?
@@MatthewMencias Bible verses are not proof.
Many pastors continue to tell their congregations that Judas was saved. He absolutely was not. Pastors us the fact that Judas tried to give back the money as being remorseful and this was his was of showing repentance. The fact that Judas took his own life, that's the part that pastors struggle with justifying Judas was saved because some of their members have losted loved ones the same way. Pastors rather put Judas in heaven then to offemd its members.
Judas was not saved because he did not believe, it had nothing to do with us his suicide
Yep it’s not suicide it’s because he didn’t believe. It doesn’t matter that he was remorseful he is not supposed to cry or be remorseful to men he was supposed to Cry and be remorseful to God by Praying to Christ for Forgiveness where he was crucified. If only he knew this verse
Proverbs 24:16 King James Version (KJV)
For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: But the wicked shall fall into mischief.
@@josephwhite8850
Samason commited suicide ans weny ti heaven
@@azz2203 he had remorse for getting caught and worldly sorrow but not genuine godly repentance to be saved
Judas died ahead of Jesus and went to hell.
When Jesus died, he also went to hell to set the captives free (Ephesians 4:8-10, Revelation 1:18).
Judas repented just before his death, which is why he ended up commiting suicide.
Everything happened accordig to the plan of God (Acts 2:23, John 10:17-18).
What evidence is there that he did not believe the Lord's word when it was preached to him in hades?
If anything, he was a catalyst for the crucifixion of Jesus.
Look who sold Joseph (the savoir of the family) in Genesis 37:26-27. Yes, Judah, AKA Judas.
Was he not saved together with his brothers when they went to Egypt?
Please draw lines on how a lamb was offered on the day of atonement and how Judas did it.
Peter did the devil's bidding in Matthew 16:22. Was he not restored? Luke 22:54-61.
Judas was saved because he was given the same rights and authority as the other 11. But he gave up is own salvation by choice. God sees us to the end but does not force us or he could be called a dictator (more like the god of Tulip). Yes Jesus knows all things and he knew Judas would betray him...that does not translate to Judas not having free will to chose not to to betray him. This topic is truly separating the body of Christ because the osas supporters can twist it to fit their false teaching. I believe in osas but not the way it is taught by many. I 💯 believe in free will because it is mentioned in Genesis. Adam and Eve were told not to eat from a tree but they freely chose to eat from it and now the world pays the consequences of their choice. My kids are told not to eat too many cookies but they eat all of them and the consequences are a stomach ache...they chose to eat all and not listen to dad. Judas was a vessel God used but he still had a choice before its final outcome.
Looks like Judas was as born again as Donald Trump
Judas was never saved period. I agree. Also, why every Christians that died we already “assume” he or she is going to heaven? 😂 ONLY GOD KNOWS! Cause the Bible says, good deeds and self righteousness & many more are filthy rags. If a person DOES NOT have a TRUE relationship with GOD, what makes you think his name is in the book of life aka VIP list? Remember, it is HIS Kingdom not yours or mine! Try knocking on someone’s house and ask to be let in and see what happens! You’ll either get shot or they’ll call a cop on you! WHY? There is NO relationship built up! A relationship that’s built with good intentions & motive. Sad to say, Christians today are only searching GOD for their own benefits. To be blessed & prosper! 🤷♂️ Y’all think GOD is dumb? 😂 This is why the road to “eternal life” remains NARROW! Let that sink it!
Acts 1:25....Judas went to his own place in hell. He is prototype of all apostates. So many a trapped by this sin. This sin never ennds well. Playing church isn't good!
@Bob.55 Sir, why would God the Father send His Son into the world to die for people who are not His sheep? Jesus said, My sheep hear My voice and a stranger they will not follow.
John 6:70 Jesus answered them, Did I not choose you the 12 and one you are the devil
Judas was one time a saved man? He had the Holy Spirit and power like the other apostles and was a successful preacher and healer like them (Mt. 10:1-20; Mk. 6:7-13). He had his name written in Heaven, as proven by Acts 1:20 with Ps. 69:25-29. He fell from the apostleship by transgression (Acts 1:25).
Judas was not a devil from the beginning? There is no such statement in the Bible. He was "a devil" or an adversary against Christ toward the latter part of His ministry and this is all the Bible does say about the question (Jn. 6:70). He was not always an adversary for he was once a saved man.
When did Judas have the Holy Spirit?
@@smartchristians He only had a measure of the spirit, not to be confused with the baptism in the spirit. One needs the spirit of God to cast out devils and raise the dead.. The disciples were given power by Jesus to do the work he sent them to do when they went out paired up, or by two. Even John the Baptist had the Spirit of God, but he died before Pentecost, which proves he never received the baptism in the Spirit. Mary the mother of Jesus even had the Holy Spirit.. I'm not in front of my Bible at the moment, but if you do a search of the word spirit with your Concordance, you'll come across a few scriptures of people in the new testament who had the Spirit of God. There's a difference between having the Spirit in a measure and without measure.. for example, one can fill a glass with water, but until it's submerged in water it is only filled. Once the glass is submerged in water, it is now filled and baptized. That is a great example of receiving the Spirit without measure. Jesus was full of the Holy Ghost, for God gave him the Spirit without measure, hence the mighty miracles he performed, for God anointed him with power and the Holy Ghost. Sad to say, but many Pentecostals, COGIC comes to mind, don't know the difference between being filled and being baptized in the Holy Ghost. They believe it's the same work. In fact, I have heard many members in COGIC tell brand new converts THEY AIN'T GOT NOTHING until they're baptized in the spirit. This attitude has turned many from that particular denomination. How can you be saved at 1pm and five minutes later you're told "You ain't got nothing" if you haven't received the baptism. The new birth is the work of the Spirit of God, and so is the baptism in the Spirit. Think about it. Who does Jesus baptize in the Spirit, those who are BORN OF THE SPIRIT, BORN FROM ABOVE, that is the work of the spirit IN THE HEART OF MEN, now you're a candidate for the baptism in the spirit, which is a second work of grace. The sole purpose for the baptism in the spirit is to give the Christian POWER to do the works of Christ and confirm the word of God. Many so called Christians lack this power, so, they fall back on "The Holy Ghost is a keeper, and without it you can't live holy". That's only partly true, because the very spirit of God is keeping you, if you choose, while seeking the baptism in the spirit.. Corey, I love your program, but the church is in a mess, especially when it comes to the spirit of God, many Christians are totally ignorant as to how the spirit of God works at salvation, during salvation, and especially after receiving the baptism in the Holy Ghost.. One of the many reasons we don't see the miracles signs and wonders we see in the book of Acts, is because the modern church has watered down the true purpose for the baptism in the spirit to nothing more than just a keeper. And we wonder why we don't have the power to go out in the world to be a better witness for Christ. No confirmation because the modern Church, as a whole, has no power.. Just like these so-called modern day Apostles.. NO POWER 👋
Matthew 26:24 KJV
The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if *he had not been born.*
After reading this, i think it's safe to say that Judas wasn't saved...
If You Say The Most High Create Evil Then That Goes Against Scripture Even Though Judas Did What He Did He Still Had A Choice SHALOM
Not sure what you mean
Isaiah 45:7
King James Version
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
I notice you conveniently stop short of verse 20, where the issue is quickly resolved. Let’s go back to the Old Testament where Jesus speaks prophetically of Judas. He says “Even my own familiar friend in whom I trusted, who ate my bread, has lifted up heel against me. Psalm 41:9 Jesus would never have sent an unsaved man who he didn’t trust out on a missionary journey. OK, you don’t accept Judas, so l’ll give you King Saul. Again, I believe in eternal security overwhelmingly as a Biblical doctrine, but not absolutely. Let me leave you with one Scripture verse, and I say this with all love and respect. James 3:1
Amen brother Corey. If I may add, God sealed the 144,000 in Revelation and lost none.