Stuka Siren - How Effective Was It?
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- A lot is said about the Ju-87 Siren, the 'Jericho Trumpet'. But what lies behind the story of the Stuka's claim to fame? Let's talk about that!
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Goldeneye (1995) - Martin Campbell, MGM
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my grandfather was in France in 1940 and said the two sounds that scared him the most were the stuka siren and the clatter of tank tracks
Gosh that gives me chills
That is very true though
jason kristunas NEBELWERFER
Scared him and every other Frenchman too hahahahahahahaha. (Sorry, I had to)
jason kristunas Huh, funny.When I played WW2 online,tank tracks were the number one scariest thing that I heard in it.What increased the effect of being scared was that they could be heard from quite a long distance so sometimes you couldn't judge if the tank was 1 km or 100 meters away.And that was just the game.I could only imagine that in real life.
JU-87´s sound didn`t come from any siren. It was the tail gunner who was screaming.
XD Noice one
"rrrreeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhheeeeee"
"I THOUGHT THE DIVING THING WAS A JOKEEEEE!!!"
“I NEVER LEARNED HOW TO READ!!!”
wwwwwwwwwwwwwHhhHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEAEEAEAEEAEAEEAEAEEAEAaaaaahaaaaahhhhhhhhh
My grandmother was a little girl in Belgrade during the 1941 bombing, some time ago she overheard me test flying a JU87 in War Thunder, and told me she "knew that sound from when she was little" - not much else was said.
Yeah, my grandfather once saw me playing Men of War. Just looked at it, looked at me and walked away. Didn't feel like playing after that.
PO3000 ugh, not the best idea to play War games when your grandparents are present D:
Yup, I learned my lesson
Chilling to say the least. :S
She also told me about how a german soldier gave her a small choccolate ration bar when she went to take a portrait photo with her mother, he thought she was cute in the dress I think (4-5 years old), so it wasn't all bad.
This is the alarm clock sound that i use to wake up my poland friends.
damn... that was amazing
Aghahhhah
frank anderson yes!
You have a sick sense of humour...thank God that still exists in the world...fucking political correctness is just evil, not funny at all. Like I learned in the Navy, "If you can't take a joke, fffffuck ya!!"
Polish*
I was ten years old when Stukas attacked Rotterdam, my home town. I am now 85 years old, but that awful sound still resonates
Wilheeelllmmmuuuussss vaaaaann nasau ben ik van duuuiiitse bloed
Respect voor u.
Road to 0,003K no he wouldnt he coulda still lived
Road to 0,003K no because there was still many alive in camps and outside camps
@AARAV PRITESH bro xD
Of course it does not feel threatening to us since we never experienced a Stuka trying to attack something close to us.
masterP I actually find it threatening, I mean it's fucking loud and it's everywhere, the brain cant process noise very well
Even though i was not around in the times when these were relevant, nuclear alarms sure agitate me instantly.
Well... that is the purpose of them.
Tempest and a Computer Lmao I can agree with ur comment
Imagine the A10 or the su25 fitted with ti!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEE goes the stuka
REEEEEEEE spitfire, get away from my bomb run! REEEEEEE
[Normies running for cover in the distance]
ALL HAIL PEPE
Luftwaffe pls go and stay go!
DA WHISTLES GO WOOOOOOOO
It's not "effective" it just makes every soldier shit themselves first so they have to waddle instead of sprint away.
Its like a giant tsunami in a movie, people just sit there looking at it instead of running way.
This is an underrated comment
Best comment^
i on even care how much shit is in my pants if i see a stuka coming at me im running as fast as my legs will carry me
But it's still called as effective. It makes enemy's morale suddenly drop. Made them panic and just lie down to the ground.
Am I the only one who thinks the famous Tom and Jerry scream sounds just like the Stuka?
OH SHET
Wait hol up
The long screaming sound of Tom
OMG he found the secret
Ohh fuk
2:05 "At cruising speed it will have a constant wail following it."
So is basically a tie fighter?
You misunderstood, it's a "constant *whale* following it". This high frequencies attract marine mammals.
I did do voice acting after the war so yeah I was the sound for the tie fighter
where do you think the galactic empire was inspired from? Have you ever seen darth vader's helmet? It's literally a black stahlhelm.
@@llamallama1509 no. Its wail, as in a ghost wailing, not marine life
id say we should put them on the A-10
maybe ov-10 as well
Sure. We can call it the Farthog.
could you imagine the PC carnage that would ensue from SJWs? LoL..
Al Lee Yeah, like my grandmother, who survived the Blitzkrieg and got out of Poland while every person she knew was murdered by the NAZIS. Those SJWs.
So she was in the western half of Poland? 'Cause half the country was taken by the Soviets, who did plenty of killing, themselves.
Run to the hills, run for your lives...
IRON MAIDEN
Bartłomiej D Epic song!
rome total war
More like there goes the siren that warns our the air raid
Even more epic song!
The Germans developed a tactic to match the siren.
The first 2 or 3 waves of dive bombers would bomb enemy positions, and the next wave would come with harmless concrete bombs (of course, after previous agreement with the attacking German ground forces).
The German ground forces therefore knew that the 'bombs' dropped were concrete, while the defenders were ducked down in their trenches, expecting another vicious attack....
When then heard the sirens howl, expecting the the massive explosions....there were only a few little thuds....and when they stuck their heads out of their trenches, the Germans were already inside their positions....
Ralph Bernhard very interesting
Ralph Bernhard Do you have a source? seems like an interesting read
Ralph Bernhard NOT A SIREN , A JERICHO TRUMPET
Donald Trump calm yo self
Ralph Bernhard fucking campers
just like tie fighters...
tie fighters sound was influenced by the JU-87 StuKa, that's where the name 'intergalactic nazis' came from...
maybe I actually thought that up I don't know.
@@unclebillybob1359 no, stormtroopers were named after ww1 german troops
David Tiareh could it mean the empire is really the nazis 😯🤔
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
STAR WARS is higly influenced by the Nazis.
The Stuka Siren was also the inspiration for the sound of the TIE fighters from Star Wars
Bloody James Bond movies always using this siren for crashing planes, and even Helicopters. I love James Bond, but the sirens together with the screatching tires on GRAS make for a cringy watch.
Yes, the James Bond franchise does it constantly.
Well Bond movies take a lot of liberties like the suit of Bond is lightweight yet deflects at ease 7.62x39 FMJ not even transferring the kinetic energy.
Also in the Dunkirk movie trailer I heard them while seeing some 109s... I really hope they didn't fuck that up
My favourite from the older bond movies is the sound of bullets echoing... in open fields ❤️
Kevin Lind Grass reverb.
My great grandfather sat me down and asked me to play the stuka sound as he knows I like ww2 stuff and he was a soldier during 1943.
After I played it we sat in silence for like 20 minutes and then he told me the story of how is entire squad was wiped out in one pass.
I only had one thing left to say, eish.
Damn...
The Finn yeah it was pretty overwhelming
And for months before hand he would say how good friends, and what they did at the bases. So I grew to like them so it was intense.
Wian Snyders
D:
I think us fat comfy lazy kids playing war games will never understand what we're playing with there...
It's okay to play at soldiering. It's another thing to do the real thing. Playing brings out our competitiveness while real warfare is disgusting
Wian Snyders ITS CALLED A JERICHO TRUMPET
So basically the Germans attached 2 feminists on both wings of their Stukas?
LOL you sir just made my day
they are technically feminazis
hereLiesThisTroper NO , THEY ATTACHED ONE DEVICE CALLED A JERICHO TRUPET ON THE FORE FUSALAGE!!
andres felipe Vaca badumtss
Hahahaha xD Nice one!
We're immune to the sound because of videogames? I strongly doubt that would be the case in a real life situation.
Exactly. My town is close to a major airbase, where jets used to fly over our town. Sometimes pilots used to fly very low at high speed, omg that sound was giving me chills. I know they are our jets, I know we are not at war, but still it was terrifying. Now image being at war and enemy jets come for you.
yeah I wish I was born in france to see them
@@jasiekskyy6081 Well if your middle eastern and the US airforce flyes.....
youre dead
@@jasiekskyy6081 Right... no civilians were ever bombed by aircraft in any war, after all.
@@jasiekskyy6081 You may want to read up about the firebombing of civilians in Dresden, WWII, where tens of thousands perished, the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki where hundreds of thousands of civilians died, and the millions of civilians killed in Vietnam. There are supposedly 'rules' in wartime to protect civilians, but what is supposed to happen, and what actually happens are two different things.
I know nothing about aviation, aber Hut ab, werter Kollege! Du machst hier eine tolle Arbeit! 👍
Yo, please reply to me!
@@generalgta3528 Hi!
@@generalgta3528 I read your comment and therefore I shall reply to said comment.
How are you doing?
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This is BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT's older brother.
I'd rather 2 stukas go after me than 1 a10. 8mm mauser machieneguns vs 30mm projectile blender
No that would be 262's 4 mk108 cannons... FOUR
Hans-Ulrich Rudel, who destroyed over 500 russian tanks with his Ju-87, was actually consulted by the Air Force when they developed the A-10 so it's not that far off
@@grahamlopez6202 tell that to the D-5 version lol
@Chef no its the bv238s backwards faceing turrets
I don't know why, but the concept of a wailing siren for psychological warfare is very interesting. The Stuka's siren has caused me to think of several ideas for a similar device on aircraft in a book.
It can be useful, but as Bismarck said, it will also warn the enemy you are coming if they've heard it before. Now, you've piqued my curiosity, so please, tell me more.
Now we have the equally terrifying noise of a jet speeding towards you. It's not scary in cities or airports but imagine in a battle how horrible that must be.
MillionFoul Well one idea was just the engine of this craft creating the wailing sounds.
Franko definitely, or the sound of an A-10 Thunderbolt's 30mm GAU.
Maybe third wave feminism is working on the same concept?
They do sound similar....
Could the siren also be used to slow enemy advances even after the Stuka expended it's bombs and ammunition? I figure if i were an infantryman and i heard the wailing siren of a Stuka, I'd dive to cover even if it was armed or not.
Gothic Jack maybe they used the Siren the warn civilians from bombing.they goal was to destroy Factorys and Fortresses Not to kill People
Marian Dobre yes, it was used to scare people shitless, even if a civilian heard it do you think they would react? they'd be like a deer caught by the headlights
The Nazis dive bombed civilians on purpose. Especially on the eastern front where Stukas specifically would gun down civilians fleeing the front lines. . . . Why do you think after damn near losing the Soviets came back to crash and burn everything? They were bitter and full of hatred for what the Nazis did, and did to their civilians in particular.
My grandmother was also strafed by a fighter while working the fields on the countryside during the war, in Germany. It was probably an American.
Gothic Jack NOT THE SIREN , THE JERICHO TRUMPET
The stuka sirens in Dunkirk were out of this fucking world
The modern equivalent is the Warthog lol
Except the A-10 Warthog's psychological effect comes from its beastly rotary cannon. Seriously the sound that thing emits is basically Satan inviting you to the depths of hell.
In Michigan we have a squadron of A-10s. It's a sight seeing those birds flying low. Sometimes you can hear them firing that beastly 30mm cannon. It definitely gets your attention.
Deadlyaztec27 fun fact a-10 is heavily based off the ju-87 as a close air support aircraft the us government went so far as to interviewing Hans Ulrich Rudel and other stuka pilots for help on the design
Piss-inducing brrrrrrrt.
Ethan truth but then again, the bullets hit you before the sound does.
I made one of these sirens during a mechanics field trip we had to make a propeller that collected the most energy from wind i made one of these instead lets just say it turned some heads when we fired up the wind tunnel
LegacyAtom Gaming
Haha epic :D
i made it vibrate with mismatched aerodynamics on a tri blade propeller made the perfect sound
sorry butt no i dont im sure you can find one on youtube though btw i used acrylic plastic as the material
Then could you please make a video tutorial for it? I'm certain it'll get lots of views and likes!..
Imagine if poor veteran heard it
I don't know if you already made one, but I think you should make a video about the effectiveness of back gunners/turrets in planes during WWII.
Well the TU-4's back gunners sure are effective...
shalol you need a nuke to destroy this piece of shit
Spoofy Tofuwu you need German 20mm Anti bomber rounds to even set it on fire, I agree
minenshoss is useless, you need the duck or a whole team of quad hispano beaufighters
Jook up the Brit Bolton Paul Defiant which had a crazy 4 bbl rear turret, Crazy but crew figured way to fly in multiplane spirals over Dunkirk and were doing well until brass interfered and made them fly in regular formations. This caused high losses and they were reassigned to sub hunting and later ground attack.
my grandpa still panicks when he hears the sound (he fought from 1940 to 1944)
What happened in 44?
@@gailraby1722 Probably got injured, and then got a medal. Maybe he received a Purple Heart...
My great-grand uncle fought from 1939 till 1945, and he used to say that he found the sound quite reassuring. I think he got the wound badge in black and an iron cross 2nd class out of it, not sure though. Sadly, he passed away in 2011. Great guy, really, even though he never wanted to admit that he was fighting for the wrong side. Well, how could he, having lost so much and so many in a war, he needed to justify it.
When does he ever hear this sound 😂
And so the Soviets created the Deaf Batallions.
Munrais only they dont understand commands very good... like on the phone or somthing
@@ItsARandomDragon "These soldiers are always on their damn phones!"
- 1942 Soviet Field General, probably, idk
my grand mother, Ursula Margarett Krauser, was a young woman during ww2, she was born in germany, but migrated to brazil after the outcome of the war, married a local, and gave birth to my father Max, i was allways into war related stuff, when i was 6 i showed her a toy plane and she told me:
"i remenber when i lived in my of my hometown mulheim, there was a airport nearby and planes would train near my village, i will never forget the stukas, every day they wuld dive in the air, like they were to crash, and they would make a siren sound,one day the british came and destroyed it all, i will never forget this"
today she just lays in the bed all day, like a rock, when she is not sleeping, she moans, like she is in a almost dead state, she has alzheimer, and can't remember who i am, it's just sad.
i know one day i will be like her, a shell of a human, forguetting everything and every one, and that scares me.
*Edit
She died the same that same year that this comment was posted, those were simpler times, looking back now I remember her fondly, always remember to show love to the people around you, you'll never have enough time with them.
Alzheimer is a horrible thing. My mom once told about her grandmother: they were talking to each other and everything was alright but suddenly her grandmother became quiet; then she asked my mom:,, who are you and what are you doing ind my house?" :(
:(
Lots of this can be avoided by having a healthy diet. Stay healthy my friend.
Eating healthy does nothing against Alzheimer and dementia
alzeheimer can be prevented using healthy natural essential oils. learn about it
Great video Bis, btw what are your thoughts on the HE-111 H-16 and FW 190 A-5 so far?
Haven't tried the H-16 yet but the A-5 looks like a nice addition. Need to run a few tests with it
i like the pink floyd soundclips
God damn it! Ahahahahaha!
Harrison Fletcher I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed
All the Pink Floyd The Wall clips are from the movie Battle of Britain. You should watch it. All the pilots in the film were actual RAF or Luftwaffe pilots who survived.
In my view a crap movie with, even at that time, bad effects and acting. And I wholeheartedly hated the hybrid Bf-109 things. A Merlin fitted to a Spanish Bf-109 looks so fake.
It was all they had.
I'm a machinist, and I know just from using the air gun to blow out a part after working on it, why the engineers decided to put this on a plane. You can blow out your eardrum just by blasting that airgun into a fix depth hole in a part, the siren hiss rips through the entire shop
I'd like to put Stuka sirens on my car, so that when i'm approaching a police radar, the cops run for cover and hide....
My grandma was in China during World War II and she always get paranoid around low flying single-engine propeller aircraft. She told us that the Japanese Zero's and Val's (similar in appearance to the Stuka) would often fly very low and slow then strafe anything that moves. She told us how she has never ran faster than she has ever been before nor since towards a wooded area as everyone around her gets gun down by the attacking planes.
Sources?
Sources? For Japanese war crimes? Just Google everything is there.
The Kuomintang (Nationalist Party), the rulers of China at the time, led by Chiang Kai-Shek had a truly despicable strategy of retreating before the Japanese advance and laying waste as they went in order to try to exhaust the Japanese Forces. Also, they wanted to preserve their own military hardware and provisions so that they could control the Chinese warlords and fight the communists. This resulted in many civilian deaths added to the atrocities committed be the Japanese.
The US general in charge of aiding the Chinese against the Japanese was so disgusted by the Kuomintang's willful failure to protect cities and civilians that he stated he would gladly join the communists if that meant he got to fight the Japanese and be rid of Chiang Kai-Shek's leadership problems.
This cruel strategy was also one of the biggest reasons the communists became so popular.
did she know about Japans atrocites
@@admontblanc the soviets did a similar thing but not the same. Stalin fought a war of attrition and basically had his soldiers fight losing battles to slow the Germans and exhaust their resources. The Guo Ming Tan had their soldiers avoid battle and let the civilians suffer the casualties instead. The optics of it were way worse, even if the intent was similar.
this sound has been so over used in movies and cartoons when they want to depict a diving plane (even jets) that even now that i know what it truly is it gives me the impression it is an over riding plane engine.
In nearly every plane in a movie has a stuka soundeffect
when I was young and I watched a TV show it showd a talking bunny fly a plane but he crash and it showed the siren but in a little deeper sound also he yelled BRACE FOR IMPACT WOOAAHHHH (crash ) i was laughing for hours after I heard it
My friend's mother lived in Italy during the WWII. She was just a kid back then, and unfortunately had to live on a strategically important island. Which meant, first the Allied bombed it into oblivion, then when Italy changed sides, Germans bombed it into oblivion, with Stukas.
Years later when she was 80+, my friend was watching a WWII aviation documentary, and the Stuka air siren sound came from the TV. The 80-years-old mother's PTSD still triggered from hearing it.
well I mean thats how you get it going... you know. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
3:34, Man this reminds me of a story that my dad told me about my grandpa. During the war, my grandpa and his parents where fleeing to somewhere safer, they went to a train station to leave. There where so many people there because everyone wanted to leave. As my grandpa got onto the train, he was suddenly hit in the head by a bottle so hard that he literally fell of the train, so his parents had to get off too. Thankfully there was a second train that came, so they boarded that one. After some time they came upon the first train, it had been bombed. The train was completely destroyed and there where bodies everywhere. People just ripped apart, guts hanging from nearby trees, a truly terrifying bloody sight. War is truly a terrible thing.
stuka used siren . Its very affective !
A great example of the Sirens inflicting fear and horror is in the Film "Dunkirk" during the Blitzkrieg. Great scenes of the English cursing the planes while attacking
Jeremy Bear Is it already out?
Meister Proper Not the new movie coming out, its the 1958 version. It's in UA-cam. Treat yourself to a great film!
The new one is also great especially in cinema. It felt really frightening I almost couldn't take it
@@jennyh2884 I watched Dunkirk about 5 times in the theater
OMG I'm so happy that you used ww2 online footage, that's my childhood memory (I'm 17 now). Btw do you also play it as well? The video is great!
I am pretty new to it
I will admit my eyes lit up at the use of ww2ol footage, my fav plane to fly, with a roll over, air brakes and ofcourse.. sirens 😊
WOW have fun with it, and keep making awesome video like you always do
Harry Chu: That isn't WW2OL. (Gold Builder since 2006)
Von Neely it says on the bottom left of the screen... wait man you r a gold builder?
"Oh, a Stuka siren. They're about a minute out. No problem.
when the trees start speaking vietnamese
when the snow starts speaking finnish
when the sky starts screaming RRRREEEOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW
Even if you grew accustomed to it, I imagine the siren would have a demoralizing effect. It would differentiate the bomb strikes from German artillery and for the engaged soldier not able to take full stock of the entire battlescape would serve as a constant reminder that the Germans had air superiority and his own side did not. I recall reading accounts of Dunkirk and how soldiers were disgusted that their own fighters were no where to be found while the shrieking stukas seemed to bomb them with impunity. The reality was that the friendly aircraft was putting up something of a fight, but it was beyond eyesight and earshot. The Stuka sirens, however, made - a bad situation seem much worse.
Well it surely isn't effective in WT when I'm trying to divebomb a tank...
shalol
Yes... :/
I get kinda scared and use the machine guns to shot them down ( the machine guns basically don't exist for low tier Japanese)
The fact that we are talking about it today says something about how effective it was
Would they normally have rolled over before beginning their dive?
MrDgwphotos Yes.
Most small aircraft would. Positive g force if you roll. Negative g if you don't. Negative G's hurt.
Where would I need to look to read up more on effects such as these?
Try google for Centrifical force as it applies to aircraft maneuvers. Or possibly gravity and aircraft maneuvers. Try searching stunt flying maneuvers? If possible, go to your local air show. Or try a VFW post, talk to actual combat pilots. You can learn a lot. My family has been Air Force since airplanes came along, so i just sort of learned as i grew up.
Basically, negative G's will knock you unconscious fast. Blood rushes to the head. The human body is designed to take G's towards the feet.
Are you German? You speak „Sturzkampfgeschwader“ so Good!!
Okay... ich hab weitergehört... Grüße aus Karlsruhe ^^
Thankyou so much for covering this topic. I had always wondered about their effectiveness and use. I'd love to see one in a collection somewhere. see the mechanics of it. I wonder how they made it to switch on and off?
"A German officer of the air force declared to the commander of the Greek
Eastern Macedonia division group, lieutenant general Dedes that the
Greek army was the first army on which the stuka fighter planes did not
cause panic. "Your soldiers" he said, "instead of fleeing frantically,
as they did in France and Poland, were shooting at us from their
positions.""
Thats seems to be one of the reasons why they ditched the sirens later in the war, instead of panicking, the soldiers in the ground took their time to fire back or to calculate the exact moment it took the bomb to hit the ground.
Insult..?Whom did I insult exactly ? Spread lies on the name of people ...?What? I didn't say those words mate. They aren't mine. If a German Officer wants to be a dick to his enemies, well, so be it. Maybe he didnt see much fighting, maybe it was his personal opinion, how the hell could we know 70 years later?
Also, nowhere it is mentioned that the Frech and the Poles where not fighting as bravely as they could, just that they , according to that officer, were panicked by the Stuka...
I don't care who held the most.
Every country was in a different situation when Nazi's struck.
But, when it is being consistently reported by different Military personel that the Stuka wasnt all that terrifying,
it should be no suprise that somewhere along the front lines of Greece, some divisions were not fazed at all.
Simple as that.
Plus, you can't compare countries just like that. France was practically a superpower back then, and way larger than Greece. So was/ is Poland.
Some facts
TOTAL LOSES IN POPULATION PERCENTAGES:
Greece 10%
Soviet Union 2.8%
Holland 2.2%
France 2%
Poland 1.8%
Yugoslavia 1.7%
Belgium 1.5%
DURATION OF RESISTANCE (in days):
Greece 219
Norway 61
France 43
Poland 30
Belgium 18
Holland 4
Yugoslavia 3
Denmark 0
Czechoslovakia 0
Luxenburg 0
I really don't se the point of your comment mate. As I said, each country was in a different position at the beginning of a dreadful war.
I do agree that without context those facts explain nothing. Thats why I dont have conversations about who lasted longer.
Different countries, different situations.
I myself have never heard of anyone calling the Poles cowards, and the only people I have heard calling the French cowards are Americans really.
Maybe you thought I was coming from a different point of view?
I tried searching for the name of the officer, and the only thing I could find is that what he said was reported by Dedes.
Though even if he didnt say such things, its true that the Greeks were not afraid of Stukas.
I guess after so many years, with little stories traveling from mouth to mouth, every one can add their own stupid thing in something.
To be fair, if a German officer praised the Greeks for something, I doubt that he would bother to mention how "bad" according to him other ountries were.
Mostly I wanted to disprove the theory that Stukas were all that terrifying. Never crossed my mind that French and Poles might be considered cowards, I know personally that this isnt true so I didnt imagine someone would call them as such.
wow, I didn't know that!
I know, I google checked it right after I read it^^ by the end of March 1945 they were given the chance to stop fighting and help out building defenses for the rest of the war, but most refused and went to Berlin, incredible!
one never stops learning...
Bismark, where did you find the Handbook for the 87?
Just type it into Google and you'll find it. I have my copy from DeutscheLuftwaffe
fun fact the prince of wail the ship that was nearby when te hood was sunk go sunk. where?
IN MALAYIA halfway across the world
We should incorporate these into us fighter jets
WĪLD DĪÇTĀTØR put it on a A-10
i feel pretty certain the overwhelming, deafening sound of a fighter jet is enough.
yes I wonder how high and loud he sound would be
Germany loved it's phycological attacks. Pulse Jets AND the JU 87
PerrinPansy Nebelwerfers also
psyop always works
PerrinPansy Like the V-1
what about the V-1 the british were terified with that
I know this is IL-2 footage, but this video was what inspired me to start playing war thunder back in 2018. I'm now a level 100 and have over a thousand hours in total, so I thought I'd come back to thank you for all of the fun that you've inspired me to have.
How much money/time have you spent so far? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
the snail has consumed another soul
play war thunder and dive bomb in the ju88 it's freaking awesome. especially with 7.1 surround sound headphones.
All I hear is Tom screaming when Jerry puts him in a state of extreme pain.
Growing up, I just assumed the siren was the noise all planes made when diving, just because it was so iconic that it became a stock sound effect.
I only just now learned today that it wasn't.
This was a common sound in early WW II movies, then it was used to accompany any scenes of any airplane, even an airliner, if it was in a deadly dive. The rising pitch as the Stukas accelerated while diving gave in increasing sense of terror, so movie directors loved it.
My friend's father was an RAF pilot who was captured in Germany.
The British bombers carried crates full of empty beer bottles to drop after the bomb load was released to create a horrible whistling noise as a makeshift terror weapon.
My friend's dad said that as a POW he heard the sound of these bottles from the ground several times, and that even knowing the source of the whistling (unlike the German public who had no idea) he found the sound terrifying. He said it was his worst experience of the war; worse than having his plane shot down and crash landing.
someone mentioned they dropped concrete blocks after 2 waves of real bombs so it doesn’t surprise me they used bottles as well lol
Those devices were also called "Udet Sirens", named for Ernst Udet, who created the concept of them.
Great video, hope too see more IL-2 with Bo and company soon
My grandfather told me that former enemy soldiers (allies) told him that they were terrified by the German Strategy to use these planes:
They tried to dive through clouds so imagine you are standing on a beach in France and you begin to hear these sirens. You knew you were dead before you even saw the planes and then suddenly they plow through the clouds and attack. That must have been terrifying. The sound of death...
Spitfire: normal
P51: normal
A6m: normal
Ju87: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Ju87 pilot and tail gunner: YEEEEEETTTT
P51*
Bulgarian army had those, the JU-87, during WW2. After 1994, when we switched sides, the Bulgarins used them against the Germans. At first they used the sirens, but after a while they stopped, because the German gunners were firing blindly at the sound of the plane, not needing to see it in clouds. So it works, but not against Germans :)
1994?
@@yeah-7544 my guess would be that he means 1944
@@AAArnold I Know, I was just pointing that out cause im annoying
Also a nice tidbit of information: the sound was used (after application of some filters ) as the scream of the tie fighters. Just listen to them in the movies.
same origin, same purpose: to make you fear.
I couldn't watch the Chronicles of Narnia movie when I was little because the Jericho trumpet in the beginning of the movie scared me too much.
Korvux VH nothing scares Geralt of rivia
what the hell is the movie Chrornicles of Narnia
Yeah my French college professor's grandmother here in Texas once administered a midterm and someone asked if she remember WWII and she mentioned the horrible noise she would only decades later find out were the dive bombers. Incredible story you could almost feel the terror as she explained everything in French!
I can only imagine the terror of the V-1, V-2 and other vengeance weapons too!
I was a ten year old kid in Rotterdam when it got hit by Ju 87's. I am now 85 years of age and that infernal sound is still with me. As if 10,000 drug crazed banshees sounded off together all at once.
One would think that it would be a very very large impediment to stealthy bombing runs.
My mother’s uncle was on warships during the Second World War. He fought against both the Germans and the Japanese. He showed me a photograph of the side of his ship with the shape of a Kamikaze aircraft burnt into it after an attack. I asked him how he had dealt with the psychological affects of the Kamikaze. He told me in no uncertain terms that it had been the Stukas that had terrified him the most when he had encountered them earlier in the war.
ah, I love the sound of Stukas in the morning....
same I use it to get my parents up and get breakfest we live in britain
I play this sound full blast for my 85 year old French neighbor every Saturday morning. He seems to love it, comes out hands waving every time.
Good enough for Darth Vaders fighters :-) I would love to fit one on my car!
Are you Bismarck from bo time gaming??? Just asking...
Those who fought or ran away from but survived the war. Will never forget that terrible sound from the stuka.
It sounds like s TIE fighter.
The engine sound was inspired by the stuka siren so it makes sense
The siren at 6:16 is from the end of Pink Floyd's "In the Flesh?" from their album "The Wall."
Well, firstly, the Wehrmacht's so-called Blitzkrieg was not a myth, as you so beautifully call it here. And the Stuka, the JU 87, was known for its accuracy and of course the “Jericho Trumpet” the sirens. There is no question that they caused fear and terror among the enemy. It should also be mentioned that many pilots did not want the sirens. Without the sirens, the Stukas could have attacked silently and had the element of surprise on their side and no advance warning for the enemy. And anyone who knows the German language should read the book “Stuka” by Valentin Mikula. Then you know the story. Kind regards, Magnus
The Stuka siren is almost like the historical equivalent of the A-10 Warthogs infamous "BRRRRRRRT.... BREEEEEEE". I can only imagine that the most horrifying thing an infantryman on the battlefield can experience is being attacked from the air, where there is next to nothing you can do to protect yourself but pray that friendly air support comes to save your life. I think that would be enough to make me lose my cool and panic
The sound of a smiling bomber
LOVELY
I learned that I need to reinstall IL-2
my grand father told me whenever they hear this sound everyone just panics and it gives everyone ptsd and this tactic makes counter attack/positioning difficult for enemies during bombings.
Ye, skip all the bloody interpretations of 'trumpet of jerico' in German. No ones interested. You think thousands of English viewers are interested in what the the German translation is? NEIN! Plus we couldn't even bloody pronounce the stupid long tongue twister German word for Trumpet of Jericho.
That, coupled with your whole German accent, made your entire video hard to comprehend. Cater for your wider audience who largely are English speaking, and leave out your German interpretation of the Trumpets Of Jerico
I'm not likely to tell my friends that Trumpets Of Jerico, is interpreted as 'Ass me in glass von shtster shutzheimer von dassenberger hein shyster' in German, or whatever the hell it was you bloody said.
My German and Austrian family members fought against my English and South African [English] family members. Always makes family reunions very memorable to say the least!
My one uncle, Uncle Bill, a South African vetran and a Victoria Cross recipient of the North African and Italian campaigns would always get us kids in the local community dressed up in both Allied and Axis military kit and make home videos of us "doing battle". We always sat and listened as he would tell us some of his experiences; or show us some footage he had taken with a handheld two-reel videocam (?).
I vividly recall him often mentioning the Stuka with fear and trepidation - especially the blood curdling scream of the Stuka siren - which worked havoc on their psyches. He personally feared the siren scream more than the payload dropped! From the first time he spoke of the Stuka divebombers with such awe and shudder in his voice it became my favorite German WW2 plane.
My grandfather told me when the focke wolf and stuka's appeared over the Russian hordes all shooting stopped on both sides. Everyone just paralyzed. He said the pilots of fight group Kuhlmey was experts on their work. This was in summer 1944 Karelia. Finland.
4:24 "The sound itself no longer feels threatening to any of us." Put a JU-87 3,000m above your head and note your change in impression.
You should read Stuka Pilot by Hans Ulrich Rundel (The Highest decorated pilot in Germany history).
It's funny. We thought it's a thing of the past, that it's forever far away from us. Yet Europeans are, directly or indirectly, hearing those sounds again.
I understand the purpose during the Blitzkrieg, but as the ware went on, wouldn't the siren be a liability, alerting the target to the presence of the dive bomber and giving anti-aircraft guns more time to respond?
My dad maintenance co worker in the 1940s Malta who as a little kid heard the wailing Stuka siren. He said it seems that your skin will tear off your flesh. That's sheer terror and demoralizing effect?
So, I guess every plane in film mounted with Jericho trumpet
I wonder why Germany didn't increase the performance of the JU-87? Because they went on the defensive?
We Texans have a bird that is very close to the looks of the Stuka. Air Tractor as its known. Its a shame there are only a few of examples of this awesome looking machine left. I would love to see a flying one at a air show.
By 1939 we British already had an air raid siren of our own: it sounded quite scary and made people run for safety (a good thing). Thankfully, the Germans did some of our work for us by also equipping their Ju-87s with a similar device (it sounded quite scary, and it made people run for cover - again, a good thing). It was jolly sportsmanlike of you to have assisted in our civil defence in this way.
Weird how a "terrible" country wanted to warn people. Seems totally compassionate
3:50 I love how even in a vicious war, people took the time to troll others.. Putting whistles on bombs? 😂🤣😭
In the Pacific, the F4u Corsair was called "whistling death" by the Japanese. The corsair had wing radiators that made High pitched whistling sound when they dove. Its pretty cool. This was not intentional, it was just a side effect of having the radiators on the wings. Great video, the Stuka is one of my favorite WWII aircraft.
That's a good point: sometimes scary things are just coincidences.
The windows in my grandfather's house had little springs that would make a moaning sound if the wind hit them a certain way.
It was super creepy.
IMpeller, not a PROpeller.
It turned due to passing through the air. It had nothing to do with pulling the aircraft through the air.
Sukhoi: so how we are going to deal with Su 57 engines.
Mikoyan: have ya ever heard of Stuka.