Understanding Cancer Survival Rates
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Well, yknow, It’s a weird one, but I make stuff about the things I’m thinking about and this is definitely one of them! It’s such a wild thing that we talk about cancer in a unified way when it is many hundreds of different diseases. Cancer isn’t a disease, it’s a way for disease to happen. And even with something as treatable as Hodgkin’s there are lots of ways it can be more or less dangerous, and sometimes it gets really stubborn! So far that isn’t happening with me, but I am very aware that it could. I’m not a population, I’m just one person, so I get to be on one side or the other! It’s good to actually understand what it all means. ELECTRIC CAR BRAKE LIGHTS ARE FASCINATING if you're not in the mood for this: • Electric cars prove we...
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My father died of HL in 1952 at the age of 28 while undergoing experimental treatment. I like to think he's part of the reason Hank has a good chance of surviving!
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❤ so sorry for your loss - what a lovely way of thinking about it.
*hugs* I think he is, too. My dad was in a similar situation, having therapies that were still under study. He was about the same age at diagnosis as your father though he was a boomer and had a different cancer. His survival had been a close run thing for a while there.
Absolutely, no person lost to cancer is lost in vain. Every loss contributes something to our understanding of disease and the advancement of treatment. It’s just heartbreaking the nature of the disease has made this the case though
as a health statistician, I'm so glad that you talked about the nuance of survival rates. I just finished working as a data analyst for a pancreatic cancer clinical trial.
Sounds interesting :O Care to give us a scope?
As a Radiotherapy Tech we see the inoperable pancreatic patients come through our clinic. I am curious what the trail is on and its results
Oh god, Pancreatic cancer? So basically the death sentence that is the whipple procedure. How do you feel about the "new promising" vaccine for adenocarcinoma?
So I read somewhere that the 5 year survival rate is also deceptive because we can detect cancers earlier now. This means that even if nothing else changes these people will seem to be living longer.
My 12yr old brother passed 2 months ago from pancreatic cancer. From the bottom of my heart, I thank you for working on this ❤
@@Qwerty0791 no idea because the trial I was helping with seemed to be also very experimental but I was mainly looking at the average length of treatment for patients for certain drugs and the site level metrics and biomarkers. Also because my background is in statistics and programming some of the bio things were left to the people on the team and most of the statistical protocols and design was already there before I joined the team.
My stage 4 lung cancer had a 5% 5 year survival rate back when I was diagnosed. I'm still here and currently working through year 7. Good luck to you my friend :3
How old are you?
Congratulations! That is absolutely fantastic 🎉
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congrats man you deserve it
so glad you're still here friend
Here in Ireland, a standard response among sick or elderly people when asked how they're doing is simply "Still above ground". I had to explain to my dumbstruck Italian girlfriend that no, my 87 year old grandfather isn't being bitter, and it's not gallows humour, it's genuine joy and gratitude that he woke up this morning, ate his cornflakes, read the paper and went for a walk. Tomorrow isn't promised to anyone, but if you appreciate today, you're guaranteed to enjoy the rest of your life. You're doing grand, Hank.
Irish people just GET death, and that’s a great thing. The U.S. has become pretty removed from illness and death being normalized despite how inevitable it all is… and there’s a variety of reasons for that… but I hope we can turn that tide back around.
My dad used to say a similar thing haha! When he got cancer people who knew (which was most people in our small town) took to asking him “How are you doing?” in this really somber and concerned tone. He started saying back “Still standing on my own two legs! :)” because being up and out and about was something he was genuinely grateful for
When anyone used to ask my Australian grandfather “How are you?” he used to say “I’m one step in front of the undertaker” with glee and a twinkle in his eye.
I know a customer at my job who always says “Every day’s a blessing.” Despite not being religious myself, I really like that answer.
I always say “alive and employed” :)
I’m a cancer biologist graduate researcher in a Phd program in a research hospital, but less than a decade ago I was a terrified daughter helping my mom through her cancer diagnosis as a chemistry undergraduate.
This was an amazing explanation of how we measure survival and why these metrics matter. This video would have been so helpful as an undergrad, and I hope others find it helpful ❤
Do you know about the radical remissions? I know there are rare but not much has gone into investigating them.
My team has been treating people for 10 years now. We have achieved an amazing success rate using only cannabis oil for treatment. 1 gram a day for 60 days is the cure for cancer. What do you people do all day? Seriously.
My wife is a stage IV cancer survivor who's over 5 years cancer free. The treatment protocol she underwent was still experimental at the time, but is now a standard treatment regimen for her particular cancer.
I'm sorry to hear about your diagnosis. Your chances are good & hopefully your side effects from treament won't be too onerous. Even so, this can be a reminder to not leave things unsaid. When my wife was diagnosed, I swore that if the worst happened, she would not go into the great unknown without knowing she is loved. I'm just glad that I've had 13 years to let her know every day. Best of luck to you.
There is so much to take into consideration with diseases. My late wife was taken from me by Cystic Fibrosis. When she was born, her survival age was about 15, when I laid her to rest, she was 31, so the rate is constantly changing. You got this! LOVE THE HAWK!
Similar story with my late uncle. When he was diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes as a kid, his parents were told he wouldn’t live to see 15. Instead he made it into his 30s. And he died about 30 years ago now. A child with his diagnosis now could potentially live a normal life span. The treatments are always improving.
I'm sorry for your loss.
My grandma was told my dad was die before he was 5, obviously he didn't and didn't die until his mid 50s
I am sorry for your loss. My sincere condolences
*"Today is the best time in human history to get cancer."* It's wild hearing you say that, because I _exactly_ thought of the same thing when I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer 4 years ago! My cancer was very treatable, heck it didn't even need chemotherapy (there were still surgery and radioactive iodine therapy tho). This made me often worried that my inner turmoil wasn't warranted at all, that I was not sick enough, wasn't deserving enough to call myself a "cancer patient".
But like you said, different types (and stages) of cancer are different diseases. There isn't one monolithic cancer experience (although unfortunately the media seems to portray the contrary and rarely captures the nuance of this illness). It did help realizing that my cancer is now very very treatable thanks to the cancer researchers and the many experiences of cancer patients before me. I'm standing on the shoulders of giants. I'm forever grateful for them.
If anyone reads this comment, I hope you're having a good day ❤️
Thank you Hank. My mom is about to start treatment for her stage 4 pancreatic cancer. We learned about her diagnosis a week after you shared your diagnosis, and your whole process has been helpful to my processing, even though hers is the "worst" one and yours is the "best" one.
The odds are against us, big time. The site you quoted gives us:
1% in 5 years
21% in 1 year (I'm holding onto this one)
Out of 100 people in her situation, 50 lived for 2 months to 10 months after diagnosis.
I really hope we're not on the 2 month end of the statistics. But, she's perfectly healthy aside from the terminal cancer. And, importantly... she's alive right now. Won't let cancer and anticipatory grief rob us of the beautiful moments we still have ahead of us. Thanks Hank.
My mom also had pan can. Stage 4 at diagnosis. She was otherwise healthy and very active. Chemo was brutal on her…she spent the next 3 months in bed. Toward the end…she said,” wrong choice…should have just went on with my life as it was”. Why be miserable…enjoy the life you have left! Best wishes for your mom.
There are radiotherapy treatments tested in the last few years that could locally halt the tumor for up to a year in the pancreas.
You ll need to ask the doctor for a 'MR-Linac treatment for up to 5x10Gy' which is currently the latest we offer in our hospital. If such treatments are available in your area, it may will be worth it. Wish you all the best!
I'm so sorry your family is going through this. I hope her pain is well managed & that she's getting to spend some quality time with you.
@@HexerPsyBest wish you for your Mother
My father (63m) was diagnosed with stage 3 pancreatic cancer last year. One of the first things his oncologist told us was that current survival rates for his cancer are already outdated. In the last several years they have made a lot of advancements in treatment that just haven't been around long enough to know how much it effects survival rates.
One of the big things is that they now start chemo and radiation before surgery to remove the cancer. This way the person is in better physical condition to withstand as much treatment as possible, and maybe shrink the tumor making the surgery easier.
It's been a hard year and a half, but my dad's scans are clear, there are no signs of cancer. He's still recovering from the whipple surgery, but he's here. Recovery is a sort of two steps forward , one step back situation but he's here and regaining strength and that's all that matters to me. Please have hope, no matter how scary the diagnosis.
I wish nothing but the best for your dad. My mom's friend told her the same "To never lose hope and rely on God (not meaning to proselytize), regardless of what she hears". I believe hope is a good thing and nobody has the final say. God bless.
My mom is coming out of a bone marrow transplant, with the same benefits of newer aggressive treatment strategies. Coming up on 9 months since transplant.
Today was a one step back kind of day for her, but that comes on the heals of two or three days of two steps forward. Nowhere near "cured" in the it-doesnt-affect-me-anymore way, but the cancer itself is managed well, and her general improvement has a positive trend line, and has gotten to a manageable absolute state.
Today really is the best time in human history to get cancer, and the hard work of researchers and clinicians, combined with willingness of previous and present patients to share data, it all adds up to make a diagnosis tomorrow even better than today.
I love these stories of humans clawing progress through hard work, collaboration, and caring.
Hospice nurse here.
YES! These conversations NEED to happen!
Canadian and American culture is so out of touch with death and dying. The more talking we can do, the better. Normalize death or die trying!
My aunt just got diagnosed with Pancreatic cancer. Later today she will have a test to see what stage she’s at. I’m completely devastated, she’s an amazing mother of 2. Both are still in HS, if I’m terrified and hurt…. I can’t even begin to imagine what they are going through. I have yet to talk to them because I keep crying and that’s not the energy I want to give them. I want to give them hope but I know the odds are bad. Sylvia is her name, I hope to come back next year to this comment and say she saw her daughter graduate and preparing for her son.
I know someone who survived pancreatic cancer. Yes, the odds are bad but not impossible. I pray your aunt will beat the odds.
@@drgw04wow! 😮
Friend, my nephew who is 55 years old just got diagnosed with Stage 4 pancreatic cancer two weeks ago. He started chemo Monday, July 3.
He looks like he’s already lost 50 pounds and he was a very healthy muscular man who did construction work.
I just saw him over the weekend. Thankfully he was able to come to our Independence Day family picnic.
His sister‘s husband just diagnosed with stage four lung in December 2022. So we went from zero female members struggling with cancer to two members of our family having cancer at the same time. I sure hope your aunt does OK. It’s a very very scary diagnosis. 😢😮
Be strong. I know what you're going through. My mom passed away from pancan in March. Hank's quote "people with an 85% chance of dying in the next year are 100% alive today" is what you need to focus on. Our amazing palliative care doctor would always remind us at appointments that my mom was alive, and even if she's not capable of doing everything she used to, she still had life to live and to help her find meaning and the joy in what's left. There's also so much hope in many of the recent breakthroughs of treatment.
And also please talk to your aunt and your cousins, even if you're crying. Trust me, mutual crying session I've had with family and friends is what got me through the last nightmare of a year for me.
im 22 and was diagnosed about 10 months ago with stage 2 HL with a softball sized tumor in my chest. after 5 rounds of chemo and a month of radiation i was diagnosed as in remission 1 month ago. Ive been watching a lot of your videos since you were first diagnosed and its awesome seeing you put a spotlight on it and on your journey. It'll get worse before it gets better but you've got this!
Thousands have told you the same, but I can't help myself. I am so grateful to have heard you and to have shared this with you. You have given us so much, you have done so all throughout this process, and we all know, as you do, that you will continue to do so. Thus, we have been part of your life, and you are meaningful to us. However, sharing this particular aspect of your personal life is very useful, as you are fully aware, to both the curious and those who have had personal experience with potentially fatal diseases. Thank you for hitting the nail on the head, and for understanding your viewers.
I’m grateful that you took your frustration (‘everyone asks about the survival rate and there’s no quick way to make sure they don’t get the wrong idea’) and channeled it into an explainer video that will be a helpful resource for many people in the same boat!
My mom was a oncologist (cancer researcher). Some of her research went all the way to human trials I think, she was an inventor on some patents. But she died of cancer at 60, after a fighting it a couple of times over her life. Unfortunately I have the same genes that give me a similar chances of getting cancer. It was bitter sweet the way she was explaining her own disease to doctors at the hospital and some of them seemed really grateful to hear about the cutting edge stuff she was doing. I’m glad she told me all this and more, and glad someone else is doing that for everyone more openly. It’s also a good reminder not to just assume I’ll also be gone by 60 and should try harder to understand the research my mom left behind.
Your mom sounds like an incredible woman. I know life is hard to plan when you just see pain and disease in your future, so I'd not blame yourself if that's the case. It is def a great reminder tho to enjoy the now
My mom was also an oncology researcher! Thank God that folks like them put their lives into the research they did, because people are surviving longer thanks to them. :)
What I find really fascinating is if you have the BRACA gene is you can just take those organs out, I'm hoping there is some prophylaxis like that you can undertake.
Your mom sounds like a badass. Wishing you the best of health.
**HOW TO CURE CANCER**
dig into and apply
-sr9009
-vit. b17
-RIFE frequency generator
-7 day photosynthesis (7 day water fast right under the sun)
don't forget to avoid endocrine disruptors
eat sufficient organs for optimal nutritional profile (recommend eating grass fed grass finished beef brain, liver and heart)
10 sets of 30 second HIIT sprints 3 times per week
push pull legs, but only one cycle per week, with only 1 set of each exercise at RPE 10
don't trust the doctors or that blog post, instead trust the science.
Lost my dad to leukemia at 56 years old back in 2013. Id only recently joined the community. As a man in his early 20s at the time since then, vlogbrothers videos have been a constant source of joy, and solace. You got this Hank. Mohawk looks great by the way DFTBA for life.
My 4 year old was diagnosed with cancer and the process was very strange and complicated! His surgery didn't remove it all, so he is not technically cancer-free, but his type (DFSP) is so slow-growing that we have to live with a diagnosis of "wait and see" for the indefinite future. People really don't like to hear that answer when they ask if your child is okay now! I ignorantly always thought it was a binary between having cancer and being in remission. Embracing the unknown has been a large part of our family's cancer journey.
Good luck man. I've been watching your videos on and off for 10 years and I think you have been doing a good job. And I like the mohawk.
Wishing you all the best Hank ❤
21 years Hodgkin's Lymphoma free here 💪
I was diagnosed at 13.
Hank, all I can say is thank you for choosing to live your “now” here with us, adding to humanity’s collective knowledge. seriously, you’ve propped me up through some of the hardest periods of my life and we can only hope to return the favor a little bit.
Only Hank Green would get a possibly fatal disease and bring us educational videos about it.
As someone who watched your chemistry videos multiple times, and considers you one of the people that inspired me to go onto pharmacy school, thank you. But the momma in me wants to make sure that you are taking naps.
John said in his video on Tuesday that Hank's Friday video (this one) was pre-recorded. So it sounds like he's taken this week to rest. :)
You explained things so well. 4 time cancer survivor
My condolences
You have so many people sending you good energy, Hank. ❤ If this offers a modicum of additional hope, my dad was diagnosed 5 yrs ago w/ NON-Hodgkin's lymphoma; the meaner, more aggressive of the two lymphomas, as you know. He went through the whole nine yard of extended chemo, 3x. Yesterday my dad flew into AZ for his first visit since he completed treatment. Damn if he didn't look exactly the same, except now he's 80 yrs old - and cancer free! Docs said they have to watch his numbers due to his age but.. ya 💪✌🙌. You got this Hank!
Our family is sending you healing thoughts. Your continued contributions to DFTBA are amazing! Thank you!
This video helps explain why so many family members felt my grandfather had a chance of more then a few days. The VA had given him a diagnosis years before, but he chose to do nothing. Including tell anyone else. So when he fell on his way to the bathroom one night and was sent to hospital… it’s exposure was quite a shock. We had enough time to figure out it was linked to his tour in Vietnam and agent Orange. I’m no nurse. I’m no doctor! But I knew the veteran side of him better then anyone else. So when the rest of the family was chatting away about him getting treated and him opening gifts for X-mass…. I was giving my good byes and talking to my own doctors for grief treatment. Being optimistic is good as long as the patient is the most optimistic, Grump was on machines by the time treatment was out of his hands.
He passed before Christmas and it tore the family apart.
Always be open and honest about your medical choices and end of life care YOU want. It’ll be a hard conversation, but will save so much heart break. If you have the fight in you, fight like hell! If your ready to go home, be clear about it. Otherwise those Christmas gifts will sell with the house.
My aunt just died yesterday from an infection caused by cancer. Thank you
Thanks for this Hank.. I needed to hear that today. I had a highly aggressive, malignant glioma removed from my head in 2021. I had radiation and now get weekly infusions of Keytruda. Sometimes it’s hard to think past what’s going wrong in my body and remember that I’m more than my aches, pains, type 1 diabetes and cancer. Thank you for reminding me to live my life and enjoy it as much as I can! 😊❤
Seriously, this level of information and the way you explain it is invaluable, it's... Thank you so much
My grandmother was diagnosed earlier this year with stage four metastasized cancer, and she isn’t going to get rid of it. But she’s here now, enjoying time with her family, and I couldn’t ask for more than that
I really love that Hank continues making vlogbrother videos, mostly douing scientific communication about his own diagnosis. Truly shows how much he loves what he does. I just graduated college with a BS in Psycholoy and used to watch every crash course psychology video, I also adored crash course world history and all the stuff John does, you two are by far my longest running favorite creators on this website. Thanks for doing all you do!
Please be patient with me as I scream into the void of nerdfightaria..... F*** CANCER!!! Four years ago, my mom and dad were both diagnosed with cancer within 2 weeks of each other. My dad lived for about 3 months, it was so advanced when it was found that treatment wasn't even an option. I was with my dad, holding his hand when he passed. My mom underwear multiple treatments and lived almost 3 years with the disease. I was with my mom, holding her hand when she passed. And now.... now I'm SO ANGRY, that I have watch someone whom I've grown to care about over the last 8 or so years that I've been part of this community. F*** YOU CANCER!
Having said that, I am so, SO grateful for Hank, for being the brave, curious, compationate, scientist, educator and fucking rock star that he is. Thank you Hank for sharing so openly what you are going through, and helping me retroactively understand what my parents went through.
Much love and grace be upon you.❤
Thank you for explaining this. As someone who's through a lot of a very imperfect healthcare system for late diagnosis of a chronic illness, and insufficient follow up, the thing about "they should be okay", and people needing different things, that advocating matter, the way people treat others like they're already dead, or already not there is also surprisingly relevant to both chronic illness and mental health concerns. Telling someone "I might not make it because I have crippling social anxiety." tends to make people not make as much of an effort to ensure you even feel welcome, which FYI *IDIOTS* , is how you isolate people and ensure they won't come. Do not stop asking people if they want to socialise; want to interact. Don't stop trying to come up with new ways to do it, even if they get annoyed or angry; most people don't want to be alone (and even if they do, beyond a certain degree that's probably an issue in itself), and that frustration, that annoyance, that anger; probably pain. 100% alive and there for as long as they are. That should matter most.
Hank I just wanna say how much I appreciate you sharing your journey from both a personal and scientific perspective. My uncle was diagnosed with cancer about 2 weeks after your announcement video was posted, and learning more about the science behind the disease has brought me a refreshing amount of clarity. Thank you and wishes of healing to you!!
Thanks for explaining the 5 year survival rate. There's been a lot of cancer in my family, and my family has an absolutely terrible relationship with mortality, so we just ... never talk about it. The reasons you gave here make so much sense - especially regarding treatment improvements. So, thanks for that, really.
Also: My grandmother, who just turned 87, has non-HL, which is the not-curable kind. She was diagnosed almost 30 years ago. And, at 87, she's still chugging along great! So as hard as so many treatments still are, there have been incredible innovations and advancements, and I have so much hope that within the next 25 years, treatments will not only be more effective, they'll be less difficult to endure.
My grandfather died in 2002 of cancer. He died 6 weeks after his diagnosis because the NHS diagnosed him too late. I really hope you survive. I discovered you through crash course biology in 2013 and it helped me pass biology. You’re one of my favourite UA-camrs. Praying for you 🙏
Diagnosed him too late? Sometimes that is the limitation of our technology.
A tv series recommendation for all of you who are going through rough times right now - "The Good Place".
Four seasons of touching, heartwarming, hilarious (and quite philosophical) shenanigans of four people who ended up in heaven by mistake after being absolute jerks on earth. A wonderful and light-hearted story that tackles the hard topics such as mortality and death with care.💙
My favorite science teacher rocking a widow's peak hawk! You and John are the best!
My dad has 2 months to live, he has stage 4 lung and brain cancer. He’s super tough, still walking around and playing his guitar when he can. I’m spending all the time I can with him.
Mortality sucks. We fear what we do not know and do not understand. I really appreciate you helping us by sharing your experience. I hope you realize just how much of an impact that alone has on the world.
I am so happy that Hank Green has taught me so much ab the world and this is just a part of my education I didn’t expect
Hank, I have no words to express how big of an impact you have had on my life and the world in general. Thank you for everything. I am 28 but I still want to be Hank Green when I grow up.
This gives me a lot of hope, but also a nice reality check. My father was recently diagnosed with tonsil cancer, and the 5 year survival rate is currently 30-80% (there’s a lot of factors we haven’t gotten into on yet). Hearing those statistics explained so clearly and how they’re made gives me hope, but also lets me sleep better at night knowing the actuality of him dying.
I'm a clinical research coordinator in cancer research and you explain so well - I especially like how you said someone living with cancer (no matter the stats) is 100% alive right now. The patients I work with face much more stark stats than you are facing, but when I sit across from them and talk to them about signing up for the study I work on (in this case a tissue banking study, not a therapeutic study) I realize how true this is.
Thanks for explaining all this. Also, I knew exactly which electric brake light video you were talking about and Technology Connections is a great channel!
Literally sitting at home this week right now on the couch watching this recovering from my Radical Orchiectomy from my testicular cancer surgery and it's definitely a weird place in time. Waiting to hear from more test results to see what flavor of cancer it it and what chemo I'll be getting. Keep up the good work.
As a Health Information Management student I work with health statistics a lot. Its so easy to forget to look at the trees when you're trying to analyse the chi-squared and p-value of the forest. This video is such a great reminder about the individuals behind these numbers, and those who are looking to them for comfort or answers or predictions or reissuance. Thank you
I assume the video you're referring to is the one from Technology Connections and it's not in the description. Please add it, because any additional exposure Alec gets is awesome.
It is that one and it's in the description.
@@dedwardskbdIt wasn't when the video first went up, but yes, it is now and that's great.
I want to express appreciation for your sharing your experiences. I have enjoyed your videos for years, but find myself having recently avoided watching some of them. t helps me to understand how people (including me) may avoid people who are diagnosed with cancer. It can happen for selfish (yet human) reasons, such as not knowing what to say or feelings of sadness or fear it can bring out (both self-referential reasons to avoid). In this case, I think I was avoiding your videos for a bit due to feeling sad (which in no way helps you). While this did not affect you (I'm glad), it could affect people in my life. That is what I am thanking you for- a chance to reconsider my responses to people who get a diagnosis of cancer before it is felt as painful and rejecting. It could also help me understand other people's reactions to me if I receive a life-changing diagnosis.
I am a mental health counselor in training and when learning to write treatment plans, I was taught "we treat people, not diagnoses." Knowing an average prognosis is helpful, it can provide a client with hope or encouragement and help them know what to expect from treatment. But it fails to account for context or other individual factors. I love how the same thing is the case in this medical perspective.
I love watching these videos especially because my name is John and by happenstance I am watching in the morning. Cancer survival rates should also implore to how mental state can affect the cancer survival rate.
Thank you for this! It's wild that you had this same diagnosis. I was also also diagnosed HL in 2021 while in medical school at 27 years old.
HEYYYY!!! SICK MOHAWK BRO!
Thank you again for educating the masses! You, your brother, and Michael from Vsauce all deserve Nobel prizes for education. I really think we're gonna find out how helpful people like you are.
Praying for you even more! Thanks for explaining all of this. I love you Hank (platonically but genuinely.)
I absolutely love that you are using this awful experience as a chance to educate people and correct a number of errors or misunderstandings that we have surrounding cancer. Keep up the great work. I’m praying for your full recovery, and I’m confident you’re gonna be fine!
Imagine all the cancer researchers out there who benefited from crash course videos! It comes full circle Hank!🙂
My dad died of GIST when I was 12 after it had gone into remission 2x in 6 years. His original 5-year survival rate was over 80% for his age group and staging, but for some reason a lot of treatments didn't work for him (or worked for a while then stopped, because the cancer was very aggressive. I was very young when this was explained to me, but his primary oncologist described it to my sister and I that the cancer was 'smart'), and eventually it overwhelmed him. About 3 months before he died, he got the news he was terminal.
Instead of stopping the aggressive and painful treatments, he decided to let the doctors throw everything at him they could. Experimental treatments and surgeries, in hopes that they might learn something valuable that might help the next person. He went through a lot of pain because of that decision, but never wavered. He kept on until the end, when he donated his body for study.
His determination even in those last days got me through. Even though physically he no longer looked like my big, strong dad, he was stronger during those few months than anyone else I've ever known.
He didn't know it then (the gene was only discovered 2 years after he passed), but the cancer that he had has the potential to be genetic. There's a more than small chance I or my sister will get it at some point. I only hope if that day ever comes I will have even an ounce of the courage he had.
If it does, I will take comfort in knowing that even though the kind of cancer is very rare compared to some other types (~5000 people diagnosed every year in North America), at least some of the advances made in treatments since then have been made possible because of his sacrifice.
I don't personally believe in prayer, but Hank you and your family have been in my thoughts since you announced your diagnosis. I've followed you and your brother on youtube for more than a decade now, and you both remind me a bit of my dad (in your intellect, your kindness, and your strength of character). I take some selfish comfort in knowing your chances are good, at least in the amount we can measure.
I wish you strength and healing, and all the courage you need. Your community stands behind you, 100%. 💙
Where is the link about brake lights? Cuz that sounds interesting.
I'm pretty sure it's this one: ua-cam.com/video/U0YW7x9U5TQ/v-deo.html
Your words have been really uplifting dealing with my own bout of testicular cancer. Still waiting on CT to make sure it didn't spread but after the removal and biopsy my doctor told me it looked to him as though the tumor was just beginning to turn cancerous. Thankfully it sounds but are not certain that it was caught early. Here's wishing you a speedy recovery!
You teach me so much awesome knowledge, fueling my curiousity with every video. And the fact that even when being diagnosed with cancer, one of the first things on your mind is still to teach us about it and educate people. Massive respect, You can beat this!
The advocating element Hank talks about is a key element of survival rates. The quality of treatment can affect the outcome significantly. I have had two family members that had either error in their treatments or in their follow-up care that lowered their survival rate to 0. I think it is important to know that cancer isn't the only one that has a say in survival rates; you can advocate for yourself and your loved ones as best as you can to contribute to the outcome.
I’ve been watching you and lurking for ages on UA-cam and Tiktok, you’re amazing and hang in there. We appreciate you making your illness a teachable time for us.
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain the reality of such simplified “statistics’. This is something we all need to get used to, thinking about how complicated issues are rather than trying to dumb down everything.
This is so true. My mom was born with Lynch Syndrome. From both of her parents, which makes her a double trait person. She's currently on cancer #10.
So, any cancer information and statistics don't really apply to her because not enough is out there for people who have Lynch Syndrome.
I love your infectious thirst for knowledge in every circumstance! The hair looks great, you should rock it after everything goes back to normal.
Thank you for this info. My son had HL when he was a senior in high school. He just turned 40 last month. ❤
What I appreciated most was your comment about being 100 percent alive today. I have a friend diagnosed this week with small cell lung cancer . We both work in a research department as support staff (not clinical ), but we are always hearing about survival numbers. I was looking at survival rates for her and they didn’t look good. I was feeling very sad about it… However, what you said is true! She is alive today and all I can do is make sure that I’m a supportive friend. Today it doesn’t really matter what those rates mean. She will have a tough journey over the next couple of years and I need to be there for HER.
My dad was diagnosed with stage 4 brain cancer glioblastoma in October 2022. He’s now a bit over 8 months since diagnosis. We are hoping he beats the 10-14 month prognosis :(. For now we are just taking it one day at a time and being grateful for everyday. I wish you the best Hank!
hey hank i am studying therapeutic radiography which is the usage of radiotherapy for treatment of cancer alongside usage of imaging for accuracy in radiotherapy treatments. Although I know most of the things youre talking about and in more depth. the way you explain things makes things just click in your mind. Anyways i wish you good luck Hank and keep up the videos and your good spirits !!!!!!!
I did my statistics masters project on how to summarise survival statistics as well as some other things. My favourite way to summarise it is to look at the RMST - restricted mean survival time. For example, the 5-year restricted mean survival time is how many of the next 5 years, on average, would someone like you be alive for. You can also look at the restricted mean time lost and break it down into cancer deaths and non-cancer deaths, for example is the 5-years RMST is only 3.5 years but 1 year is lost to cancer and 0.5 years is lost to non-cancer deaths, it gives you an idea of your risk of cancer.
I much prefer this to the 5 year survival rate, because that just gives you a probability of being alive in 5 years. It doesn't give you much indication of when in those 5 years people tend to live to. Like it doesn't differentiate between a cancer with a high chance of killing you in the first couple of months, but if you survive that you're probably fine, vs a cancer that kills people at a pretty steady level over the next 5 years. You can also adjust RMST with a quality of life measure, to say how many equivalent healthy years will I have in the next x years.
I looked at a registry of colon cancer patients going back to the 70s in the US and was adjusting for age, sex, stage, and year of diagnosis, as well as HOW we adjust for them (ie what models do we use - is the effect linear? At what point are we overspecifying the model?). There was also some cool stuff about comparing the risk difference between males and females, because typically males were diagnosed at a later stage and therefore had worse prognosis... But what happens if you adjust for that later diagnosis? And how do you do that? Was some very cool stuff (that made my laptop very sad with how computer-intensive it was)
I'm glad to see you Hank, I am very glad that you're here, and I wish you the best of wishes and prayers.
Best definition ever on life expectancy. Best.
My mom had esophageal cancer at 72. She went from being perfectly able bodied in January of 2022 to bed ridden by July, then gone in October, largely due to her body being unable to recover from chemo. Her oncologists were really knowledgeable and good people, but not once did either of them touch on survival or how long they thought she had, even when she was progressing worse and worse. From August up until her death, she had to bounce between assisted living facilities that couldn't take care of her needs due to insurance and my inability to take off enough work to care for her. I had no idea how close she was to death until the doctor at the last living facility she was at finally told me, "I don't think she'll make it more than a week."
Had I known that, I would have gotten her home and on hospice much sooner. I desperately wish someone was more upfront with me, or told me what kind of things to look out for in a dying person, so she didn't have to suffer the hell of being neglected and poorly treated by strangers. She wanted nothing more than to be home, and even though I rushed to get her here a couple days later, she lost most functionality shortly after and was gone by day 4.
The packet I got from hospice clearly outlined signs of oncoming death and she was showing them for a month prior. I don't know if the doctors were trying to soften the blow or not make a judgment call in the event they were wrong, but it was really frustrating. I hate how much she had to suffer in the last months of her life. They never even directly told us what stage she was in at diagnosis, so we had nothing to go by.
You're one of my favorite UA-camrs. ❤ good luck!!
My dad had HL when I was around 11, so about 19 years ago. After a couple of years he was in remission and has been since. I think they gave him a 60% chance of survival over 5 years, or at least that's what I remember him saying. It helped knowing he wasn't 100% going to die but it was also scary. On top of that I didn't know my dad until he was diagnosed with cancer, so I just met him and didn't want to lose my father I just met. It was a wild ride.
My Dad passed away from a very aggressive Melanoma last year...I'm not sure why, but these cancer info vids are quite cathartic. I think it's partly because your prognosis is so good (and I'm very happy for you), but also I'm understanding a bit better some of what he went through. Thanks for continuing to make videos!... but we all understand if you do ever need to take a break.
Thank you Hank, very cool
I heard about your diagnosis a couple of days ago and I’ve been thinking about you since. I love your videos and interactions with your brother. I’ll never be able to offer in person support but please accept my (what feels like) empty internet words to fill you with love and support.
Thanks, Hank! For your continued endeavour to educate people you will be forever treasured!! I, for one, will have tears in my eyes if you go before me. Take care, I know you have much support but remember you have literally MILLIONS of people rooting for you :) don't feel it as an obligation, you've done enough. Just take care man!!! If you can't film it's fine, we've been worried about you at work because tangents is kinda off and we do podcasts at work and we both cried at your cancer announcement and updates but we'd rather you take care and just... do what you need while undergoing therapy for your ailment. Lots of love from the bakery
I've been watching you forever, thanks for the excellent content!
❤Thank you for sharing this important piece of advice in a very succinct manner and good luck with your treatment!
So much prayers and love goes out to you
Omg hank. I am so sad. Why would such a thing happen. Godspeed. 🙏 Hope you get well soon .
You are a treasure to this world, friend!
We are following because my family are fans of yours - We are science teachers and we are in Bozeman, MT and she is studying Thermobiology. We have watched the Microcosmos, SciShow, CrashCourse and what you do is beyond valuable for myself and my students. You make science entertaining. My 8 year old son also loves listening to you, so please get well and thank you for what you do!
Unironically cool hairstyle. Very punk! 🤟
My partner was diagnosed with stage 4b nasopharyngeal cancer, which is really stupid rare, on July 3rd. He's already sliding downhill.
Thank you for this. His numbers don't really change due to rarity, but, it helps. Stay healthy
Hank Green is the kind of guy that will post a short from his literal deathbed just to teach us something new. I, for one, hope that that day is far in the future. Respect sir🫡
As an oncologist, thank you for explaining this to people. Youre amazing for everything you did before and now.
Thanks for the work you do.
And you're amazing for everything you do
Yeah and I'm a neuro surgeon
@@jm52995I would like to hear an oncologist's explanation of so many post -vaccination aggressive cancers surfacing. I will never take an experimental gene therapy.
@@kcmaldonado3948 You can't start a discussion with a random statement. What are your sources for what you're trying to talk about?
Imagine taking a month long break from UA-cam and you come back to see hanks new office, hanks new haircut, and Hank now uploads videos over 4 four minutes.
A lot changes fast.
Among other things...
@@KrazyKaiser can’t think of ANYTHING else personally
Claims he's got cancer as well, but seems way to upbeat to be true - but could be a Psy Op for the 🐑
@@xraylife is this a joke lol
I'm sorry, but imagining the impossible just isn't something I'm good at.
Taking a month long break from YT?? Whoa.
Gah that furby never gets less unsettling
I didn't even notice that until you pointed it out, and now it's somehow the most noticeable thing in the video. I can't stop looking at it, and I don't know how to feel about that.
I had so many furbies growing up including full sized electronic and old plastic mcdonalds toys that it took me scarily long to find it in the background
It will always be watching
It's sad I know what it is, but don't remember what was the deal with them. There's several things in the life of now regarding the items of the life of yesterday.
The og ones had certain bad word filters so they wouldn't repeat swears. The problem was you could teach them words that were close, and eventually another furby could seemingly bypass the language filter when it was learning things from other furbys.
Eventually a couple buddies and I collected a box full of cussing furbies and left them in the back corner of an abandoned house in our neighborhood. None of us went back because of that nightmare fuel
My non-hodgkin's lymphoma had a 0% survival rate when I was diagnosed in '83. Prognosis was 0% survival rate at 6 weeks WITH treatment and 2 weeks without treatment. I got extremely lucky as they discovered an effective treatment protocol WITH me.
Wow! That is incredible I'm so glad you were there for that
same to me '86.
Wow Paul. This actually made me cry. I’m so glad you’re still here.
Awesome for you! Grasp life
@@Uhohlisa Thank you. I like to share my story because so many people feel like there's no hope when it comes to cancer diagnoses. But you never know WHEN a cure to a type of cancer will be found.... even when everything feels hopeless.
You need to FIGHT, even when doctors say there's no hope.. because you just never know.
I had the chance to have a fairly full life, And I've got two kids whom I love to death, and every single day I've had in the last 40 years has been a blessing.
“We’re 100% alive right now.” Is amazing in the context of anyone with a chronic disability or terminal illness. I love that very much. In fact, it goes for everyone, no matter the health, you never know what happens tomorrow. But we are here.
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“A person who has an 85% chance of dying in the five years is 100% alive now”
My mom got diagnosed with Parkinson’s a few days ago and I’ve been having a hard time keeping myself from imagining what could possibly happen to her years down the road… it’s been a rough week but everything you said surround that quote was stuff I really needed to hear right now, thanks Hank 🖤
I’m sorry about your Mom’s diagnosis. But maybe, having the diagnosis is helpful, in that fighting shadows is really really hard. But once the enemy has a name, once we can understand it and its process, we’re on a more level playing field and can begin digging in and doing the real work to treat it and to prolong the time before quality of life gets impeded.
My Mom had Lupus and then cancer (which the Lupus hid) and it was so hard before she was diagnosed. It wasn’t what she wanted to hear, but it was so much better than some doctors thinking she was maybe a little nuts or wanting attention or drugs and it gave her a community of so many people who also had the diagnosis.
I hope she gets a great medical team in place to deal with the illness and its symptoms. She’s lucky to have such an empathetic kid that is really feeling this with her. Hang in there together.
My mom was sick almost my whole life, but we had a lot of fun together, even when we were in pain. She gifted me great memories.
This is me. I'm in remission from stage 3 overian cancer. I got like a 15% five year survival rate. Had 6 rounds of day long chemo treatments, and now I'm doing a year of maintenance treatments. Like I said I'm in remission, my numbers look great. My CA125 is at 6, which is better than some people who don't have cancer. That 15% haunts me tho.
@@AderynBach42 My Mom managed stage 4 Appendiceal Cancer for over two years at almost remission levels. If it wasn’t for COVID messing up her treatment schedule, they don’t think it would have gotten out of hand.
Treating it and looking at it like another chronic condition is so different, but sometimes that’s the way to go. Especially since stress can be somewhat toxic, that mindset seems helpful.
Also, SOMEONE has to be in that 15%. It could be your group! ❤️
I'm sorry to hear about your Mom's diagnosis, I hope this might offer you a bit of comfort though...My grandfather got diagnosed with Parkinson's in his 50's and mostly had a very active and full life for 25 years with Parkinson's. There are a lot of difficult things that came along with it but he was still building decks, driving, and travelling with my Grandma when he was in his late 60's- early 70s so for him, there was lots of time to still do all of the things he loved, even though those things sometimes had to look a little different for him. He was also diagnosed over 30 years ago so there has been lots of progress since.
Wishing you and your family comfort and support. I studied Parkinsons at NIH and the disease can be devastating, but there is also a lot of hope. So many approaches are available and emerging to not just manage symptoms but preserve joy in living. My uncle lived with Parkinsons for many years. It's a very hard diagnosis to receive. dftba
I am an Acute Lymphocytic Leukemia survivor. Was diagnosed back in 2009. I've had chemo, a bone marrow transplant, and finally on the last relapse, a clinical trial called CAR-T cell therapy. It cleared me up completely, and I have been cancer-free since 2017. It is now being FDA approved and is being applied to other cancers.
I can't tell you how cool it is to be a part of something scary and unknown, but wholly helpful for so many people.
Thank you for having fought all these years. I am so happy to know that you are feeling better today!
THATS AWESOME MAN CONGRATULATIONS 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
CAR-T is a game changer. Glad you kicked cancers butt 💪
I love you.
Right now I'm going through screening for a clinical trial. I think it's pretty cool, too!
When I was diagnosed with a very large brain tumor, just before going into surgery to remove it I thought to myself, "Everyone I love knows that I love them. So I'm OK no matter what happens." That is the one great lesson I learned from major illness. And I hope I never forget it. Make sure everyone you love knows that you love them. And then it's absolutely going to be OK.
That was my reaction to my father’s brain cancer but from the other point of view. I knew my dad knew I loved him. We were solid. That’s what mattered and when he died I was grateful he was free. Of course I mourned but it was easier.
You’re reflection is beautiful. Just have to say that right off the top.
On a less serious note - I initially read your comment as saying that you were preparing to operate on yourself and my brain just kind of whirred to a stop.
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That reminds me a lot of what the artist Louis Wain said
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That "A person with an 85% chance of dying in the next 5 years is 100% alive right now" line hit me harder than I would have expected. I don't even have anyone in my personal life dying of cancer that I know of right now and it still made me tear up. The closest thing was my grandmother dying of cancer when I was like 8. It hardly hurts me anymore and I just remember her with what little memories I still retain.
"Those who only chase tomorrow will find it cold and gray, but those who make the present count, live lifetimes every day"
@@Kantara01 wow that is a rhyme
I’m sorry for your loss ❤ may she rest in peace
@@Kantara01 beautiful
My mother died of leukemia over forty years ago. I was eight. I usually don't even think about it anymore. When I do, I say heigh. I love you. Stuff like that.
I still have my father.
I struggled with that and my thyroid cancer, then I realized or found out the literature was mostly for women because they get thyroid cancer at a significantly higher rate. Mine was a fluke, super aggressive and I won. My outlook on life is so much better, I am happier than ever. I honestly count it as a blessing.
You got this! This will be a joke or a pun later!
Super glad you beat it!
Glad to hear of your success! I'm a thyroid cancer survivor. And, I think people benefit from hearing from survivors.
I have stage 2 Thyroid cancer, I've found the same thing, hard to find info for men with this one. but glad you beat it, good job, I got diagnosed last year so I'm not out of the waters yet. but I'm told not to worry, numbers were not good, new growths were found, but now my tsh and tg are going down so we'll see. all should be good in a few years I guess
@@MachuSayTruck good luck. Dw you’ll get through this
@@MachuSayTruck i hope you can find more information and most importantly, everything goes well for you! Unfortunately, it does make things worse when you are not a 'typical' patient and the fact that there is more than one type of thyroid cancer. Mine was caught very early from thyroid surgery (rather than surgery because of the diagnosis) and then treated with just a radioactive iodine pill. As you know, everyone is not going to have that outcome and that is rotten.
"Our lives are not valuable because we expect to be here in a certain amount of time, they are valuable because we are here now"
As somebody who is feeling their age lately, thank you, Hank. That's going to stick with me.
We're here because we're here!
Yeah this stuck with me too... Thanks Hank
Could make for a sweet tattoo honestly. Such a beautiful perspective!
True, a great reminder of being present in the moment and being grateful for being alive currently. I need to work on this and being more grateful
Hmmm...suspicious comment from a Frankenstein
"Our lives aren't valuable because we have a guarantee that we're gonna be here in a certain amount of time. Our lives are valuable because we're here, now." This hit me really hard. Thank you, Hank.
Same ... this can't be over stated. My mother passed away from a rare and aggressive cancer. We did so many things in her last few years. Don't wait for a diagnosis like this before taking advantage of the time you have!
Hi John, I was diagnosed with lymphoma a week ago. I still don't know what kind i have. I should find out on Tuesday. My daughter introduced me to you videos because of your journey and the insite you share with the world. I can't thank you enough for making these videos. ♡
welcome to the community! i hope your journey goes smoothly and you find support here!
How are you doing now one month later?
Really hope you're doing okay now nearly a year later! 💜💜also i had a slight smile @ the "John". I assume unintentional but many people purposefully joke that way on these videos ;)
One thing of doing educational videos for so long that ultimately becomes so clear is absolutely NOTHING is as simple as it first appears. And nothing is black and white. But also the complexity and nuance ends up being what makes basically everything so interesting when you dive in. In this case, questions like "Why haven't we cured cancer yet?" Or "What are the survival rates of XYZ?" Fascinating. And also amazing how far we've come with it and how fast it is changing all the time for the better. Also interesting to think that literally all of human experience since the first human to ever human has led up to our ability today to tell cancer, in many cases, to F- off. Countless thousands of years of humans humaning to get to today, and ability to do things today that even a century ago would have been miraculous. But now we say "It's going to be scary. It's going to be awful in every possible way mentally and physically. But there is a really good chance you're going to be ok on the other side." -Daven
Amen to all that Daven!
Well said Daven. Love your channel btw, always great writing! Tell Simon Hi. 😄
It's sad that if we spent all the money the world spent on military on cancer research in 5 years would probably solve this.
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I am a teacher.
I tell my students a few things with a frequency that I am sure they find frustrating.
1 - If it seems simple, you probably don't fully understand it (yet).
2 - The key to finding things interesting, is to be interested.
As someone with health anxiety I avoid these types of video but Hank is the only person I can hear and process this type of information without freaking out.
Wow, I'm not alone with that? I thought it was just me being my crazy self, and not that it was something that's real. Hope that makes sense. 😕
Anyway, yeah, Hank is making me feel a little less uncomfortable about serious illnesses. I'm glad he helps you, too. He is an awesome, amazing guy!
Absolutely, I've dealth with health anxiety for years, but this past year has been especially bad. To the point where I use incognito mode in my browser when Googling symptoms because I don't want to be reminded of it afterwards.
But Hank just has such a calm and optimistic way of looking at things, that I just don't get that panicked feeling while watching it, to the point where it actually has the opposite effect.
I feel more relaxed from watching this video than I do from **not** researching symptoms or reading fearbait articles about the subject.
I wonder how anxiety impacts the quality of life post prognosis. I had a dream, last night, that I had gone in for some tests (not feeling very well) and was informed that I had an advanced stage of cancer and that (with treatment) I could look forward to six months of life and without treatment it would be one month. To me - those numbers were pretty much the same. One month or six months it probably doesn't make much difference to me as I will be spending my remaining time frozen with fear. If we are told we have a set amount of life left, and we are naturally anxious, it would just stop us in our tracks. The older we get - the faster time flies, anyway. Mortality is horrible. I'm one of those people who doesn't want to know how long I have left. We're all different, though, and a more dynamic person would be able to negotiate and utilise that information and make their remaining time count. They'd be much more likely to confound expectations. I want to be the person that puts off finding out until absolutely necessary and is then told that it's astonishing that I'm still alive. Until we are able to completely eliminate the beast that stalks us - I don't really want to know how close it is. I watched this for the third reason, that Hank didn't mention, and that is because I am rooting for him. I want to see him chase that beast back into the shadows.
I like how you found a way to make Hanks struggle with cancer about yourself.
Edit: I say this and I stand by it. Through my life I have lost the most important people in my life to cancer. Grandpa, God father, my dad, one of my best friends. The first three being 3 years apart. One cancer death a year when I was 16, 17 and 18. Then one of my best friends right after my divorce.
I understand Hank (almost absolutely) wants positivity, and discussions, and other view points. It's very frustrating to me though, to watch people take someone else's sickness and make it about themselves. I've seen it time and time again, someone is on their final bed and people are squabbling over who has it worse for pity points. Its particularly frustrating because my grandmother passed a few months ago and now I'm watching my uncle and 5 of my aunts squabble over petty things.
I don't understand why it's so difficult for people to just support those who are going through the flames. The original comment I replied to isn't even about cancer or survival, it's about health anxiety. To me it doesn't make sense to say "I'm anxious about my health" to a man who's literally fighting one of the scariest diseases. Why not keep these topics for a later date, hopefully when we're watching the man who's brought us so much joy on the mend.
I am sorry that my past experiences made me jump to a potentially insensitive comment.
I am sorry that everyone else has their struggles and to them it makes sense to relieve stress by discussing them on someone else's video. It doesn't make sense to me but my perspective isn't the only one in the world and just because it's my lived experience doesn't make it right.
@@MaryAnnNytowl No, you're absolutely not alone