I was gutted about the ending being such a letdown, and was also a bit miffed at the fact you could pay real money for more praxis kits. However I do enjoy mankind divided over human revolution for how much smoother it plays, and for the improved controller scheme compared to human revolution
I eagerly await Embracer and IDIOS to do more with the franchise after playing this game. It's a shame Square Enix didn't let them properly finish MKDX and got heavily involved with trying to monetize the shit out of it.
You missed a lot. Delara being Beth Duclare and its implications. Jensen doesn't "luckily" survive orchid because he's naturally immune. Orchid kills people by violently accelerating their aug rejection. Jensen has no rejection and has never needed neuropozyne in the series. This is commented on several times. It also makes perfect sense that Megan developed this since she based her original research on Jensen's DNA and its resistance to rejection. You barely scratched the surface of the subplot and themes.
Hey I just finished deus ex mankind divided and I really want to get into the lore and all the Little details of both the games so can anyone please suggest a video or any article to see cause after finishing the game I just want to know more!
I’m currently playing this now, and have played through so many times. I still find a corner somewhere I hadn’t discovered on my previous playthroughs. Today I only just discovered Radich has a secret stash in his office. There’s always something new to discover!
looking purely at the game I fully agree. But looking at the bigger picture makes me sad. So Human Revolution was a success for if you look at previous video, or wikipedia sales section for Human Revolution it was called a success with 2.18M copies. But sadly gaming landscape started to change soon after that and SqrEnx was frequently reporting that games fails to meet the sales expectations. Notable example reboot of the Tomb Raider series from 2013, the best selling game in the franchise but at 3.4M sold copies SqrEnx claimed it was a failure, finally with the PS4/XO release and getting to 8M copies they were pleased. This put Mankind Divided (and any other game for that matter) in a tough spot, on top of this there were other changes in gaming like additional monetization. And looking at everything leading up to launch of this game was a disaster. From very unclear tiers for pre-orders (no numbers given to the public) yet the more pre-orders player should gain more the last tier was to play game a week early. This was not well received (no surprise there) and finally game release was pushed so this whole idea went down the drain. Breach mode which felt like something added to have option for additional monetization. And finally cherry on top one time use consumables sold for real money including praxis points. The game dropped in price very quickly 6 months from release I got it brand new for 10EUR PS4. I blame the publisher as they are the once making decisions. With that said and back to the first sentence I have 2 copies of this game (PS4 and PC) I played it and I really like it. Maybe not as much as Human Revolution but it is close. It is still a very good game which in my opinion was hurt by publishers decisions. I wish we got the the 3rd part of modern DeusEx which would close many still open plot points. I hope I will get time to revisit this game.
While I prefer Human Revolution, I've played Mankind Divided more. It begs to be replayed and doing different stuff. I always find something new or a new way to finish a mission. I do think it's highly underrated.
Agreed. Plus, I really prefer the augs; they are so much more fun. The little quality of life improvements are nice. I've replayed it 2/3 times in 2023 and every time I found new paths and used new augs, which completely changed the nature of the game for me. My [distant] second favorite DX game.
When i was recovering from a broken knee, I played through this 6 times, back to back with minimal sleep in between, all in an effort to get all the achievements. It was one of the tougher things ive ever done in a game because of the inconsistency with how some achievements are tracked by the game. Years later I've played it all the way through a few times since, while its not perfect and the story is lackluster and ends poorly, its still one of my top tier games just because of the environments, gameplay, and overall feel I get when playing as Adam Jensen.
@@pitgeheimagent5617 it was never actually cancelled, simply never was a priority forSE. Fortunately, SE sold Eidos with all it's including IPs... so we can still hope for sequel in maybe 4/5 years..
@Pit Geheimagent It's not cancelled and I'm pretty sure Eidos Montreal is going to do something with it. Like @Germanb90 mentioned it's probably going to take some time. Luckily they have a great engine they could work with wihout building from scratch. Unreal Engine 5. Probably going to see more from it in 2024. *ffs edited it 3 times lol*
@@pitgeheimagent5617 Embracer have confirmed they will work on Deus Ex with EDIOS. Square cancelled Deus Ex and put Edios on Avengers projects (ugh.) until Embracer bought Edios from Square.
Honestly? I never finished Mankind Divided. I sunk plenty of hours into it, but I found that after a while I just... Didn't care anymore. The story meandered around so much, and nothing ever happened, it got kind of exhausting, like the carrot on the stick was always just a little further away, with no payoff in the mean time.
I just played this after having skipping it since release for no particular reason. The level exploring and attention to detail is amazing. And the soundtrack of TF29 HQ just slaps so unbelievebly hard.. we need a new deus ex badly
Your use of words are so pleasing to listen too. I don't even have to know what you're talking about to enjoy it. Big ups to you, no wonder you're my Favorite.
Son, you've made all us dads proud. Great job! Since you mentioned both Eidos and IO Interactive in this video, I would love to see you start a retrospective on the Hitman Series. Keep it up my boy
Take this with a grain of salt, because I can't cite my sources off hand. My recollection was that Square ordered Mankind Divided to be split into two titles sometime during development (or during the shift from preproduction to actual development.) The feeling that it was more interested in setting up a sequel could be attributed more to the game literally stopping at a mid-point of the story, rather than resolving it. But, again, six or seven years out from that bit popping up in an interview, I can't cite back to the original source.
I love how they went the "all the endings are canon" route again, for this one. if you pay attention, play through all the missions (side & main) and read reading all the side material in the game, and put all the clues together, its heavily implied that Jensen, sent out all three messages before sacrificing himself to destroy Panchaea at the end of Human Revolution meaning... SPOILER ALERT: Adam Jensen is dead, and you are actually a sleep agent clone of him with Implanted memories from a backup, and forged Augs...
Right here, the king of gaming retrospectives. Right up there with Salt Factory, Tehsnakerer, Avalanche Reviews etc. but just killing it with the prolificacy. Well done mijo favorido 😁
I put 90+ hours into my first playthrough, & halfway through my second I NEEDED to uninstall it because I was neglecting my wedding planning. No other game, not even DX1, has ever distracted me *that* badly.
I really enjoyed DXMD even with all of its flaws and it's hard stop ending. As you said, Son, the hub city was huge in terms of detail, I played through the game numerous times finding extra story details everywhere in the city. For example, (Spoilers if needed) in DXHR you can save Malik from the ambush if your fast enough (if I remember from your video Son you did not do). Well, at one of the night sections in the city, you can go back home and make a bowl of Jensen's favorite cereal, in the box there is a toy and a note from Malik, canonizing her survival from the ambush in the world. These small details that some may never see or take several playthroughs to find are what makes this game great.
I love DXMD a lot , it's got so much replayability and such good level design . I've played through the game five times and once at the hardest difficulty . The OST and visuals are perfect for me . More games should go for dense hub world's instead of big empty ones . Awesome work man .
Mankind Divided honestly felt like Act I in a three act story. Act I being just how helpless and lost the world is. Reflected in gameplay and the story by the plot going everywhere and nowhere at the same time. Marchenko being the only "boss" in the entire game reinforces this point. Ideally for me, they should've made the side mission for Helle/Eliza part of the main story. Only introducing her again *_after_* the Apex Centre incident. From there, Eliza would be instrumental in helping Adam in getting closer to finding the Illuminati. I mean come on. What's a more apt way to refocus and help move along the plot in a Deus Ex game by re introducing a literal deus ex machina?
Thanks again for the Sunday morning uploads. I swear I am developing a pavlovian response to start cleaning my house when I hear your voice since these often release as I'm doing my Sunday housekeeping.
Just recently found your channel and I've been loving your retrospectives! DX has been a longtime favorite series of mine, and hearing your perspectives and research is a delight. Keep it up!
THere's a pretty big paradox with it MD, it upgrade a lot of things from HR, but at the same time it feel like it shrank a lot of thing, I think they have had a mandate to make Deus Ex more episodic (a la hitman) so they could make more sequels
I wanted this game to be more than human revolution, but it wasn't even in the same field. It doubled down on some faults while ignoring others. For all the replays I gave it's flawed but endearing predecessor. I gave this one a single half hearted replay and let it rest.
Having recently played through this game AND having recently stumbled on your channel (absolutely adored your Max Payne retrospective), this is a treat. Going to watch later this evening as I settle in for bed. You're quickly becoming one of my favourite long-form youtubers mate.
This was my first Deus Ex I was aware of the series and the lore for a very long time, without being too familiar with it at the same time As such, I more or less took everything about Mankind Divided at face value and had no baggage from previous games... Because of this, I loved it! After the abysmal launch of Cyberpunk, this really filled a niche... However, even I was taken aback by the ending and how sudden it was I love the game, but yeah, the story was not as developed as it should have been
This is one of the few games I replay so much I literally create my own challenges cus the game isn't challenging enough. I don't like Hardest difficulties just being hard mode but you can't die. I needed more challenge so I make up my own rules like only having 2 Augs and 1 weapon.
37:33 it's the [Only] one because it's special. It makes as much sense as you give credit towards the concept of a future security concept requiring a "plug-in". It has gravitas on it's own, and is cool, although not as cool as something like Portal by valve. Having this reappear again would reduce the value of the initial puzzle.
Agreed. And its not like it took a ton of resources to make that Breach segment of NSN and therefore wasted potential. Even if we gut out the Breach Mode multiplayer, the NSN's difference is some models and textures for walls and boxes. There's no new mechanics that are unique to that segment and the mechanics that are there you would've already been using hours before. Stacking boxes to create elevated platforms. Remote Hacking to disable cameras. Or in this case obscure their view.
Eidos Montreal one of the most underated devs in gaming industry. Loved Mankind Divided. The city hub of Prague like you said is brillant. So glad that they are working on another deus ex (according to jpurnalist Schteier) Great review!
i think mankind divided DOES give you the good cyberpunk and conspiracy stuff that the games are know for, just not until nearly enough and it really suffers from needing a next one, GODS i hope there is a next one with Adam...
Maybe it was the lackluster story that caused me to feel this way, but I just remember finishing this one and feeling like it was really short and not nearly as “open” or expansive as I thought it would be. Had fun playing, but it wasn’t anything really memorable.
DXMD is the kind of game that proves great gameplays and worlds are more important than story in a video game. Everyone loves GTA bcuz of how much you can piss around, and the same applies to DX. I personally don't care about main quests in games. I only care about the world, game play, and side quests. That's where the real fun and experimentation takes place. EDIT: also, weird, I'm watching this on August 23, the anniversary of the game's release in 2016. What a coincidence.
Son, I am so sad this never got a sequel. I feel like MD started planted some seeds that connect to the original DX and I feel like they were building to some solid reveals for their next game, only for that game to never be made. I still prefer this game over Cyberpunk 2077 despite it being much smaller in scope.
Hey man I’m new to the channel and enjoying this video! Some feedback; maybe switch up the enunciation of the end of your sentences as they always end the same way.
Even with all of its flaws, there was something magical about the world building. It felt more open world with its tiny map than some huge games do. They don't limit what you can do, and that level of freedom is what makes the replayability so special. Looking forwards to the next game
@YourFavoriteSon - what are your PC specs? The Mankind Divided was known to had PC optimization issues, and back than mid range PCs had troubles. For me and I played both Human Revolution DC and Mankind Divided on laptop with gtx970m - Human Revolution was flawless (at 60fps), while Mankind Divided was not (mostly due to lack of proper vsync option, and running between 30 and 40fps).
I enjoyed Mankind Divided (until it began irreparably crashing on my new gaming laptop!), though Human Revolution is definitely better. Apparently, there is a new Deus Ex game in a very early stage of development, so the series will continue. Really hoping they'll do justice to the Adam Jensen character!
I love watching your videos but a small note that I'd like to vocalise, is that lately I've been having to increase your videos playback speed to 1.25x. Your scripts are very well written, don't get me wrong. It's just that I personally think that a small increase in vocal pace could go a long way. Regardless, great video!
Deus Ex: Mankind Divided is the only game where I can finish without killing anyone. And the previous one I finished without killing anyone (bosses do not count)
This is my favorite game of all time but at the same time i hate it, i love the ambiance, the gameplay, the music, especially the levels, but i hate the fact that Square Enix cut the game short to try to get more money with a sequel and then just leaving us hanging and wanting to know more about how the journey of Jensen ends, they just decided to put it in a vault and forget about it, i pray that the new owner of the IP decides to make a new Deus Ex game following Adam Jensen story maybe giving it a proper ending. I want to know where it all goes in this universe :c
I always intend to try and play the game through without killing anyone but hackng security terminals and turning friendly fire on is too much fun. Carrying a turret around with you and attracting guards to it while you hide and watch as it tracks and kills everything in front of you is so crafty and cowardly but so much fun. 😂
29:59 Hey now, that was only a problem with the Director's Cut ver. of DX:HR, not the original release. They decided to use the camera angles from the Missing Link DLC which are all crooked. All in all, I think original DX:HR really is the superior version of the game. The only downside is less options for boss fights, that's about it.
according to industry rumores, the game was suppose to be much longer but SE demanded they cut it up so the Jensen games could be a trilogy...and then killed the planed 3rd game after that...
I'll admit that after Human Revolution, I gave up. I decided to leave new things to the young. Although I may pick up some new tools from time to time, I find great comfort and familiarity in the things that made me into the man I am. I'm Glad though that you could see, feel and appreciate what we experienced the first time around. Proud of you son.
I've played this game over 7 times. I love this game. I think the story is amazing. The story is like xmen just replace mutants with augmented. The music is perfect, I know this city like that back of my hand. I have to have a sequel. Not sure it will happen tho.
I don't think the writing was bad. The emails and side quests were amazing. I think they cut the story into what it was because they were intending to do a sequel or longer dlc.
From what I'd heard, the game was cut up to be sold as different games and we got 1/3rd of the game. Unsure how true that is, but it's Square Enix, so it probably is
Also, they did Malik dirty by not putting her in this game. Her and Jensen have great chemistry (possibly romantic), and she was a great sidekick in HR. And yeah, I think this was the Matrix Reloaded game. No satisfying end, and some disjointed plot lines. Overall I like the game, but they could have done better. I'm hoping that now that Square Enix no longer owns the franchise, maybe we'll get another one in the near future that will do the series justice.
I loved DE:HR and whilst I was playing MD I loved it too. But as soon as it ended my love ended. It just stopped what felt like half way through the story (forgetting obvious sequel setup, which I hope we get). Prague was amazing, but at the same time it really irked me that the whole state of the world happened to revolve around this one city. It felt small in scope compared to HR as we were mostly confined to this one place. And any globetrotting missions were one off sideshows. Gameplay I can’t fault and the experience of playing it was near perfect. I really enjoyed the story that was experienced at the time, definitely felt a bit more surface level, but I quite enjoyed the more obvious ‘out in the open’ nature of the illuminati stuff. But I was so burnt on the way it ended. I really want a sequel just to make it feel whole. Even HR, which had pretty weak ending, felt more satisfying than MD and had potential to launch a sequel from (without feeling obvious). Having Eliza read off everything as a news article just felt insulting (and again shrunk the world to only make it seem like Prague was the only place to ever have anything happen) Great video, like with soul reaver and kain (raziel too) I just want to have another chance to experience a new story with Adam again. Here’s hoping
I wish I was able to finish the new Dues Ex games. Human Revolution made me rage quit and uninstall at the second boss battle and Mankind Divided was crashing so often on PC that I gave up on it.
Still a very dope game. Here's me praying they make another. The exploration/environments/tactics/strategies are just too cool and borderline sim. I love these games, and their realism goes a long way to make you feel like you're actually there. Something few games can do. It was short, but the game lets you enter so many shops, interact, hack emails, gain access to new areas with upgrades that it filled the spaces. The dlc's are largely great as well. The escape from prison one is a particular favorite. The ability to write every NPC as something approaching a living breathing character is something Bethesda has never been able to do, CDPR has gotten pretty good at, and studios like Remedy have practically mastered. Eidos-Montreal did a good job. Again, as with almost everyone, the game just didn't last long enough. It felt like it ended at the midpoint. You just can't kill the coolness of Deus-Ex MD. (Or any Deus Ex game) It just makes you wish there was more. That is not a bad thing. As far as the Aug system is concerned, after several play-throughs I never got the negative reinforcement of the special augs. That could be chalked up to being a glitch, or pacing. I never used them much anyways, but after you figure out the system, you can access basically all of them. The performance/"Optimization" left a bit to be desired as well, although this is not a problem with newer hardware. Most of the time people just don't comprehend how much is going on around them computational-wise. Realism=heavy computation.
Anyone else have this problem? So I bought a new laptop last year and was eager to run DX:MD on it. Installed smoothly and ran well until the intro sequence after Jensen arrives in Prague...then crashed. Every. Single. Time. I tried every remedy I could think of, all to no avail. To this day, I have been unable to run it on the new laptop.
MD is the better of the two games overall in my experience. With embracer group having purchased the rights to the franchise I have high hopes for the future.
Hey I just finished deus ex mankind divided and I really want to get into the lore and all the Little details of both the games so can anyone please suggest a video or any article to see cause after finishing the game I just want to know more!
Gingy has a UA-cam video that goes through the story of the whole series, including some of the extra/spinoff content like Deus Ex: The Fall. It's called 'The COMPLETE Deus Ex Series Story Retrospective'
I'd rather a diff studio developed the game than Eidos. I loved MD and HR but not the biggest fan of how they handled combat among other things (melee especially) if they do make the next one hopefully they change the way it works.
The story of this game and the last trying to make "aug issues" run parallel to real life issues drive me fuckin insane. Not because they're trying but because they're overlooking the incredibly obvious and potentially extremely potent solutions. If they want to use augs to talk about classicism and racism they need to make augmentations something that EVERYONE has easy access to but depending on what augs you have determine how you're perceived/treated in society. Rich people, if they want augs, are going to have ultra slick/incognito ones where they just look like regular humans, "passable" even. Where as poor people who may not be able to afford augs will have to settle for obvious ones or ones to compensate for a work related injury or maybe their "aug collar" job pays them to get procedures to remove their functional arm to be replaced with a company proprietary tool which then ties them to their employer, etc. Like no one's going to FLIP THE FUCK OUT over someone having metal arms but people *will* treat someone with a metal arm special created by The Armory Firm differently than someone who has an iArm. Such wasted potential. Anyways great video, son. You did good again 🧶🐈🏳️🌈
@@YourFavoriteSon1 Pog The steam version of Knight doesn't have Denuvo, they just haven't updated the page. Also, if you play the PC versions, I recommend that you use the advanced launchers and the community patches. It might go a bit against the idea of the videos but the improvements are really nice. It might also be good if you show and compare the differences between the available steam releases and the "Return to Arkham" collection, which is console exclusive.
Hey Dad, how did you feel about Mankind Divided? 😎😎
Divided honestly
I felt thirsty for more after completing it
I was gutted about the ending being such a letdown, and was also a bit miffed at the fact you could pay real money for more praxis kits. However I do enjoy mankind divided over human revolution for how much smoother it plays, and for the improved controller scheme compared to human revolution
I never asked for this, son.
I eagerly await Embracer and IDIOS to do more with the franchise after playing this game. It's a shame Square Enix didn't let them properly finish MKDX and got heavily involved with trying to monetize the shit out of it.
You missed a lot. Delara being Beth Duclare and its implications. Jensen doesn't "luckily" survive orchid because he's naturally immune. Orchid kills people by violently accelerating their aug rejection. Jensen has no rejection and has never needed neuropozyne in the series. This is commented on several times. It also makes perfect sense that Megan developed this since she based her original research on Jensen's DNA and its resistance to rejection. You barely scratched the surface of the subplot and themes.
I agree, plotwise it rushed his research quite a bit. Maybe this is way he didn't appreciate it. There are tons a little details hidden everywhere
Yeah right near the end when Jensen meets Alex in his apartment, he clarifies this, he doesn't suffer from Aug rejection syndrome
Hey I just finished deus ex mankind divided and I really want to get into the lore and all the Little details of both the games so can anyone please suggest a video or any article to see cause after finishing the game I just want to know more!
@@anjalipanwar2587 Same here and unfortunately I can't find anything. There's tons of videos for human revolution, but nothing for mankind divided.
@@anjalipanwar2587 Play all the games and read all the books.
The side quest involving Adam's cat-loving neighbor Daria is the greatest side quest I have ever experienced.
I’m currently playing this now, and have played through so many times. I still find a corner somewhere I hadn’t discovered on my previous playthroughs. Today I only just discovered Radich has a secret stash in his office. There’s always something new to discover!
I just discovered that Marchenko has a kill switch.
looking purely at the game I fully agree.
But looking at the bigger picture makes me sad. So Human Revolution was a success for if you look at previous video, or wikipedia sales section for Human Revolution it was called a success with 2.18M copies. But sadly gaming landscape started to change soon after that and SqrEnx was frequently reporting that games fails to meet the sales expectations. Notable example reboot of the Tomb Raider series from 2013, the best selling game in the franchise but at 3.4M sold copies SqrEnx claimed it was a failure, finally with the PS4/XO release and getting to 8M copies they were pleased.
This put Mankind Divided (and any other game for that matter) in a tough spot, on top of this there were other changes in gaming like additional monetization.
And looking at everything leading up to launch of this game was a disaster.
From very unclear tiers for pre-orders (no numbers given to the public) yet the more pre-orders player should gain more the last tier was to play game a week early. This was not well received (no surprise there) and finally game release was pushed so this whole idea went down the drain. Breach mode which felt like something added to have option for additional monetization. And finally cherry on top one time use consumables sold for real money including praxis points.
The game dropped in price very quickly 6 months from release I got it brand new for 10EUR PS4.
I blame the publisher as they are the once making decisions.
With that said and back to the first sentence I have 2 copies of this game (PS4 and PC) I played it and I really like it. Maybe not as much as Human Revolution but it is close.
It is still a very good game which in my opinion was hurt by publishers decisions. I wish we got the the 3rd part of modern DeusEx which would close many still open plot points.
I hope I will get time to revisit this game.
While I prefer Human Revolution, I've played Mankind Divided more. It begs to be replayed and doing different stuff. I always find something new or a new way to finish a mission. I do think it's highly underrated.
Blows my mind people prefer HR.. is this based on your first playthrough? Playing them now it's clear to me MD is way bett3r
Agreed. Plus, I really prefer the augs; they are so much more fun. The little quality of life improvements are nice. I've replayed it 2/3 times in 2023 and every time I found new paths and used new augs, which completely changed the nature of the game for me.
My [distant] second favorite DX game.
When i was recovering from a broken knee, I played through this 6 times, back to back with minimal sleep in between, all in an effort to get all the achievements. It was one of the tougher things ive ever done in a game because of the inconsistency with how some achievements are tracked by the game. Years later I've played it all the way through a few times since, while its not perfect and the story is lackluster and ends poorly, its still one of my top tier games just because of the environments, gameplay, and overall feel I get when playing as Adam Jensen.
ahhh playing video games after a broken bone, preferably not the hands or arms, with some painkillers is an awesome time
@@LtLeisureforce It seriously is lol, I couldnt imagine recovering from a broken hand or arm I need my hands for all of my hobbies
I loved both Human Revolution and Mankind Divided. I’ve been begging for a sequel to MD to no avail so far.
And there won't come a sequel. Deus Ex got cancelled as far as i know.
@@pitgeheimagent5617 it was never actually cancelled, simply never was a priority forSE. Fortunately, SE sold Eidos with all it's including IPs... so we can still hope for sequel in maybe 4/5 years..
@Pit Geheimagent It's not cancelled and I'm pretty sure Eidos Montreal is going to do something with it.
Like @Germanb90 mentioned it's probably going to take some time.
Luckily they have a great engine they could work with wihout building from scratch. Unreal Engine 5.
Probably going to see more from it in 2024.
*ffs edited it 3 times lol*
Theres rumors floating around about a new game in development. I hope its true. Probably wont be a sequel to these games though.
@@pitgeheimagent5617 Embracer have confirmed they will work on Deus Ex with EDIOS. Square cancelled Deus Ex and put Edios on Avengers projects (ugh.) until Embracer bought Edios from Square.
Honestly? I never finished Mankind Divided. I sunk plenty of hours into it, but I found that after a while I just... Didn't care anymore. The story meandered around so much, and nothing ever happened, it got kind of exhausting, like the carrot on the stick was always just a little further away, with no payoff in the mean time.
Great work as always Son. Your retrospectives have become my favourite videos 😁
Glad you enjoy!
I just played this after having skipping it since release for no particular reason. The level exploring and attention to detail is amazing. And the soundtrack of TF29 HQ just slaps so unbelievebly hard.. we need a new deus ex badly
*Mankind Divided is too good. Super immersive. The stealth missions in that big corporate building is very memorable.*
Your use of words are so pleasing to listen too. I don't even have to know what you're talking about to enjoy it.
Big ups to you, no wonder you're my Favorite.
Glad you enjoy the content!
Miller's head around the 42:00 minute mark looks HILARIOUSLY HUGE. Like he's wearing a mask of his own face. Anyone else notice that?
Son, you've made all us dads proud. Great job! Since you mentioned both Eidos and IO Interactive in this video, I would love to see you start a retrospective on the Hitman Series. Keep it up my boy
Possibly 😎
Take this with a grain of salt, because I can't cite my sources off hand. My recollection was that Square ordered Mankind Divided to be split into two titles sometime during development (or during the shift from preproduction to actual development.) The feeling that it was more interested in setting up a sequel could be attributed more to the game literally stopping at a mid-point of the story, rather than resolving it. But, again, six or seven years out from that bit popping up in an interview, I can't cite back to the original source.
I love how they went the "all the endings are canon" route again, for this one. if you pay attention, play through all the missions (side & main) and read reading all the side material in the game, and put all the clues together, its heavily implied that Jensen, sent out all three messages before sacrificing himself to destroy Panchaea at the end of Human Revolution meaning... SPOILER ALERT:
Adam Jensen is dead, and you are actually a sleep agent clone of him with Implanted memories from a backup, and forged Augs...
Another great video from my favorite son. Proud of you
Thanks Dad, hope you enjoy!
Right here, the king of gaming retrospectives. Right up there with Salt Factory, Tehsnakerer, Avalanche Reviews etc. but just killing it with the prolificacy.
Well done mijo favorido 😁
I put 90+ hours into my first playthrough, & halfway through my second I NEEDED to uninstall it because I was neglecting my wedding planning. No other game, not even DX1, has ever distracted me *that* badly.
I really enjoyed DXMD even with all of its flaws and it's hard stop ending. As you said, Son, the hub city was huge in terms of detail, I played through the game numerous times finding extra story details everywhere in the city. For example, (Spoilers if needed) in DXHR you can save Malik from the ambush if your fast enough (if I remember from your video Son you did not do). Well, at one of the night sections in the city, you can go back home and make a bowl of Jensen's favorite cereal, in the box there is a toy and a note from Malik, canonizing her survival from the ambush in the world. These small details that some may never see or take several playthroughs to find are what makes this game great.
One thing that irked me about the hub city was that the side quests needed me to travel between the two areas a bit too frequently.
I love DXMD a lot , it's got so much replayability and such good level design . I've played through the game five times and once at the hardest difficulty . The OST and visuals are perfect for me . More games should go for dense hub world's instead of big empty ones . Awesome work man .
Leaving aside the story, Mankind Divided is one of my favs in the series.
I was so looking forward to this video, great job!
Hope you enjoyed it!
Mankind Divided honestly felt like Act I in a three act story.
Act I being just how helpless and lost the world is. Reflected in gameplay and the story by the plot going everywhere and nowhere at the same time.
Marchenko being the only "boss" in the entire game reinforces this point.
Ideally for me, they should've made the side mission for Helle/Eliza part of the main story. Only introducing her again *_after_* the Apex Centre incident. From there, Eliza would be instrumental in helping Adam in getting closer to finding the Illuminati.
I mean come on.
What's a more apt way to refocus and help move along the plot in a Deus Ex game by re introducing a literal deus ex machina?
Thanks again for the Sunday morning uploads. I swear I am developing a pavlovian response to start cleaning my house when I hear your voice since these often release as I'm doing my Sunday housekeeping.
I guess I'm doing some good then haha
Just recently found your channel and I've been loving your retrospectives! DX has been a longtime favorite series of mine, and hearing your perspectives and research is a delight. Keep it up!
THere's a pretty big paradox with it MD, it upgrade a lot of things from HR, but at the same time it feel like it shrank a lot of thing, I think they have had a mandate to make Deus Ex more episodic (a la hitman) so they could make more sequels
I wanted this game to be more than human revolution, but it wasn't even in the same field.
It doubled down on some faults while ignoring others.
For all the replays I gave it's flawed but endearing predecessor. I gave this one a single half hearted replay and let it rest.
Having recently played through this game AND having recently stumbled on your channel (absolutely adored your Max Payne retrospective), this is a treat.
Going to watch later this evening as I settle in for bed.
You're quickly becoming one of my favourite long-form youtubers mate.
I still need to go back and finish this game, I remember liking what I played
This was my first Deus Ex
I was aware of the series and the lore for a very long time, without being too familiar with it at the same time
As such, I more or less took everything about Mankind Divided at face value and had no baggage from previous games... Because of this, I loved it! After the abysmal launch of Cyberpunk, this really filled a niche... However, even I was taken aback by the ending and how sudden it was
I love the game, but yeah, the story was not as developed as it should have been
Another great video my Son. Always look forward to getting these notifications. Keep it up!!
This is one of the few games I replay so much I literally create my own challenges cus the game isn't challenging enough. I don't like Hardest difficulties just being hard mode but you can't die. I needed more challenge so I make up my own rules like only having 2 Augs and 1 weapon.
37:33 it's the [Only] one because it's special. It makes as much sense as you give credit towards the concept of a future security concept requiring a "plug-in". It has gravitas on it's own, and is cool, although not as cool as something like Portal by valve. Having this reappear again would reduce the value of the initial puzzle.
Agreed. And its not like it took a ton of resources to make that Breach segment of NSN and therefore wasted potential.
Even if we gut out the Breach Mode multiplayer, the NSN's difference is some models and textures for walls and boxes. There's no new mechanics that are unique to that segment and the mechanics that are there you would've already been using hours before.
Stacking boxes to create elevated platforms.
Remote Hacking to disable cameras. Or in this case obscure their view.
Never knew that about that particular voice actor. Great insight and research as always son!
For real this game has the most fun and coolest sidequests ive ever played. I would put them over witcher 3
i've been waiting for this !
Hope you enjoy!
Great video!
another quality piece of work son.
Thanks Dad
Another great video! I’d love to see a Deus Ex remake and maybe new games as a continuation of the original Deus Ex
Eidos Montreal one of the most underated devs in gaming industry. Loved Mankind Divided. The city hub of Prague like you said is brillant.
So glad that they are working on another deus ex (according to jpurnalist Schteier)
Great review!
Been waiting for this ever since I found your channel a week or two ago with the Yakuza series
Hope you enjoy!
Good work son. You've given me a new game to Play.
Looking forward to the next installment in the Deus Ex series!
Tnx again!
i think mankind divided DOES give you the good cyberpunk and conspiracy stuff that the games are know for, just not until nearly enough and it really suffers from needing a next one, GODS i hope there is a next one with Adam...
Maybe it was the lackluster story that caused me to feel this way, but I just remember finishing this one and feeling like it was really short and not nearly as “open” or expansive as I thought it would be. Had fun playing, but it wasn’t anything really memorable.
DXMD is the kind of game that proves great gameplays and worlds are more important than story in a video game. Everyone loves GTA bcuz of how much you can piss around, and the same applies to DX. I personally don't care about main quests in games. I only care about the world, game play, and side quests. That's where the real fun and experimentation takes place.
EDIT: also, weird, I'm watching this on August 23, the anniversary of the game's release in 2016. What a coincidence.
Love listening to your vids while sleeping. May I recommend the Castlevania series for a retrospective, dont know if its your type of game though
I probably won't cover Castlevania any time soon, but I would recommend I Finished A Video Game, who released a mammoth on those games.
Son, I am so sad this never got a sequel. I feel like MD started planted some seeds that connect to the original DX and I feel like they were building to some solid reveals for their next game, only for that game to never be made. I still prefer this game over Cyberpunk 2077 despite it being much smaller in scope.
Excellent deep dive as always, son. Do you plan on covering Project: Snowblind at any point?
Hey man I’m new to the channel and enjoying this video!
Some feedback; maybe switch up the enunciation of the end of your sentences as they always end the same way.
I love Mankind Divided for the same reasons you do but the plot and story really rubbed me the wrong way.
Plot and story are by far the weakest parts of this game. Some of the sidequests are better than the main plot.
Another superb SonDay!!
Happy Sonday!
Great job son!
Another great video of yours I enjoyed. There is a small error though; Periphery is an American band.
With all the dad vibes here it reminds me that if you haven't played Ctrl Alt Ego you should pick it up. Very good immersive sim
Even with all of its flaws, there was something magical about the world building. It felt more open world with its tiny map than some huge games do. They don't limit what you can do, and that level of freedom is what makes the replayability so special. Looking forwards to the next game
Love Adam Jensen as a character
Great character
@YourFavoriteSon - what are your PC specs?
The Mankind Divided was known to had PC optimization issues, and back than mid range PCs had troubles.
For me and I played both Human Revolution DC and Mankind Divided on laptop with gtx970m - Human Revolution was flawless (at 60fps), while Mankind Divided was not (mostly due to lack of proper vsync option, and running between 30 and 40fps).
I enjoyed Mankind Divided (until it began irreparably crashing on my new gaming laptop!), though Human Revolution is definitely better. Apparently, there is a new Deus Ex game in a very early stage of development, so the series will continue. Really hoping they'll do justice to the Adam Jensen character!
Haven't looked up that voice actor's tirades, but I applaud your panache in delivery.
The Harvester-Last Harvest is one of my favourite side missions from any videogame period.
I love watching your videos but a small note that I'd like to vocalise, is that lately I've been having to increase your videos playback speed to 1.25x. Your scripts are very well written, don't get me wrong. It's just that I personally think that a small increase in vocal pace could go a long way. Regardless, great video!
Such an amazing game. It pains me to this day that well probably never get a conclusion to Jensens story.
Deus Ex: Mankind Divided is the only game where I can finish without killing anyone. And the previous one I finished without killing anyone (bosses do not count)
35:35 - I thought it was Sarif smoking and too much stress and age, it effected his voice.
This is my favorite game of all time but at the same time i hate it, i love the ambiance, the gameplay, the music, especially the levels, but i hate the fact that Square Enix cut the game short to try to get more money with a sequel and then just leaving us hanging and wanting to know more about how the journey of Jensen ends, they just decided to put it in a vault and forget about it, i pray that the new owner of the IP decides to make a new Deus Ex game following Adam Jensen story maybe giving it a proper ending.
I want to know where it all goes in this universe :c
I always intend to try and play the game through without killing anyone but hackng security terminals and turning friendly fire on is too much fun. Carrying a turret around with you and attracting guards to it while you hide and watch as it tracks and kills everything in front of you is so crafty and cowardly but so much fun. 😂
Been waiting for this one. A underrated gem
Will you ever do a dishonoured Series? Since you’ve covered this one in terms of interactive sim games I think dishonoured ranks highly?
Great work my boy. Proud to call you my son. Keep it up…
Thanks Dad!
29:59 Hey now, that was only a problem with the Director's Cut ver. of DX:HR, not the original release. They decided to use the camera angles from the Missing Link DLC which are all crooked.
All in all, I think original DX:HR really is the superior version of the game. The only downside is less options for boss fights, that's about it.
Thank you son
Thanks for watching Dad!
according to industry rumores, the game was suppose to be much longer but SE demanded they cut it up so the Jensen games could be a trilogy...and then killed the planed 3rd game after that...
I'll admit that after Human Revolution, I gave up. I decided to leave new things to the young. Although I may pick up some new tools from time to time, I find great comfort and familiarity in the things that made me into the man I am. I'm Glad though that you could see, feel and appreciate what we experienced the first time around. Proud of you son.
I love this one and human revolution so much, and i am still upset that square enix stopped a potential 3rd game for the avengers game
I've played this game over 7 times. I love this game. I think the story is amazing. The story is like xmen just replace mutants with augmented. The music is perfect, I know this city like that back of my hand. I have to have a sequel. Not sure it will happen tho.
I don't think the writing was bad. The emails and side quests were amazing. I think they cut the story into what it was because they were intending to do a sequel or longer dlc.
From what I'd heard, the game was cut up to be sold as different games and we got 1/3rd of the game. Unsure how true that is, but it's Square Enix, so it probably is
That seems to be the case
Also, they did Malik dirty by not putting her in this game. Her and Jensen have great chemistry (possibly romantic), and she was a great sidekick in HR. And yeah, I think this was the Matrix Reloaded game. No satisfying end, and some disjointed plot lines. Overall I like the game, but they could have done better. I'm hoping that now that Square Enix no longer owns the franchise, maybe we'll get another one in the near future that will do the series justice.
I loved DE:HR and whilst I was playing MD I loved it too. But as soon as it ended my love ended. It just stopped what felt like half way through the story (forgetting obvious sequel setup, which I hope we get).
Prague was amazing, but at the same time it really irked me that the whole state of the world happened to revolve around this one city.
It felt small in scope compared to HR as we were mostly confined to this one place. And any globetrotting missions were one off sideshows.
Gameplay I can’t fault and the experience of playing it was near perfect. I really enjoyed the story that was experienced at the time, definitely felt a bit more surface level, but I quite enjoyed the more obvious ‘out in the open’ nature of the illuminati stuff.
But I was so burnt on the way it ended. I really want a sequel just to make it feel whole. Even HR, which had pretty weak ending, felt more satisfying than MD and had potential to launch a sequel from (without feeling obvious).
Having Eliza read off everything as a news article just felt insulting (and again shrunk the world to only make it seem like Prague was the only place to ever have anything happen)
Great video, like with soul reaver and kain (raziel too) I just want to have another chance to experience a new story with Adam again. Here’s hoping
I wish I was able to finish the new Dues Ex games. Human Revolution made me rage quit and uninstall at the second boss battle and Mankind Divided was crashing so often on PC that I gave up on it.
Still a very dope game. Here's me praying they make another. The exploration/environments/tactics/strategies are just too cool and borderline sim. I love these games, and their realism goes a long way to make you feel like you're actually there. Something few games can do. It was short, but the game lets you enter so many shops, interact, hack emails, gain access to new areas with upgrades that it filled the spaces. The dlc's are largely great as well. The escape from prison one is a particular favorite.
The ability to write every NPC as something approaching a living breathing character is something Bethesda has never been able to do, CDPR has gotten pretty good at, and studios like Remedy have practically mastered. Eidos-Montreal did a good job. Again, as with almost everyone, the game just didn't last long enough. It felt like it ended at the midpoint.
You just can't kill the coolness of Deus-Ex MD. (Or any Deus Ex game) It just makes you wish there was more. That is not a bad thing.
As far as the Aug system is concerned, after several play-throughs I never got the negative reinforcement of the special augs. That could be chalked up to being a glitch, or pacing. I never used them much anyways, but after you figure out the system, you can access basically all of them. The performance/"Optimization" left a bit to be desired as well, although this is not a problem with newer hardware. Most of the time people just don't comprehend how much is going on around them computational-wise. Realism=heavy computation.
Anyone else have this problem? So I bought a new laptop last year and was eager to run DX:MD on it. Installed smoothly and ran well until the intro sequence after Jensen arrives in Prague...then crashed. Every. Single. Time. I tried every remedy I could think of, all to no avail. To this day, I have been unable to run it on the new laptop.
I'm playing this game right now, currently on the bank in new game plus being chaotic neutral.
I really wish this game was finished. Love the series
MD is the better of the two games overall in my experience.
With embracer group having purchased the rights to the franchise I have high hopes for the future.
Do you see that city in the distance? That beautiful vast and massive city over there. You can't explore a single inch of it.
Hey I just finished deus ex mankind divided and I really want to get into the lore and all the Little details of both the games so can anyone please suggest a video or any article to see cause after finishing the game I just want to know more!
Gingy has a UA-cam video that goes through the story of the whole series, including some of the extra/spinoff content like Deus Ex: The Fall. It's called 'The COMPLETE Deus Ex Series Story Retrospective'
Great video, dad
This is a fantastic game. Wish they would make a follow on from this.
I love this game
*humming I'm walking on sonshine* wooah!
Happy Sonday!
nice
Loved this game, hopefully embracer let's eidos make the final entry.
Hopefully soon
I'd rather a diff studio developed the game than Eidos. I loved MD and HR but not the biggest fan of how they handled combat among other things (melee especially) if they do make the next one hopefully they change the way it works.
Your opening statement summed exactly what I about this game
I never mistrusted Miller. I always trusted him.
The story of this game and the last trying to make "aug issues" run parallel to real life issues drive me fuckin insane. Not because they're trying but because they're overlooking the incredibly obvious and potentially extremely potent solutions. If they want to use augs to talk about classicism and racism they need to make augmentations something that EVERYONE has easy access to but depending on what augs you have determine how you're perceived/treated in society. Rich people, if they want augs, are going to have ultra slick/incognito ones where they just look like regular humans, "passable" even. Where as poor people who may not be able to afford augs will have to settle for obvious ones or ones to compensate for a work related injury or maybe their "aug collar" job pays them to get procedures to remove their functional arm to be replaced with a company proprietary tool which then ties them to their employer, etc. Like no one's going to FLIP THE FUCK OUT over someone having metal arms but people *will* treat someone with a metal arm special created by The Armory Firm differently than someone who has an iArm. Such wasted potential.
Anyways great video, son. You did good again 🧶🐈🏳️🌈
Agreed, glad you enjoyed!
Before you tackle the behemoth of the Metal Gear franchise, you should try the Batman Arkham series.
Thought about it
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The steam version of Knight doesn't have Denuvo, they just haven't updated the page.
Also, if you play the PC versions, I recommend that you use the advanced launchers and the community patches. It might go a bit against the idea of the videos but the improvements are really nice. It might also be good if you show and compare the differences between the available steam releases and the "Return to Arkham" collection, which is console exclusive.