In the Eastern Plaguelands died and raised, in an Ebon Hold is where I spent most of my days, chilling enemies and relaxing with ghouls and striking some paladins outside Stratholmes pools. When a couple of heroes who were up to some good, starting making trouble in my neighbourhood. I got in one little fight and my Lich King got scared, so he raised an army of the dead to spread plague and despair.
The "fearless tapping" was a little too fearless here I think. The rogue opponent was much more likely to win with burn than by ever winning the board control contest.
I main control and I always thought zoo was low skill. When I do try this deck I'm quite bad and decisions seem more impactful than whether to 0 heal my opponent or myself on turn 2
I think you guys are being too harsh on trump. It's the start of a new expansion which means he isn't going to have the best deck list straight away, it takes time and experimenting to get a better deck and that's what he's doing. I think we just need to enjoy the video and chill until experimenting is over and we have the good decks.
I don't understand why the comments are so critical of Trump right now. He played decent Druid and Paladin decks before this one, but the moment he tries out an experimental deck that isn't refined, people call him terrible. Every streamer makes bad decks, but not all of their experimentation is uploaded to YT. I'll admit Trump is not the best theorycrafter (by far), but I'd rather him show his experiments rather than having no content until the meta settles.
I'm actually finding Skelemancer a really good card. Synergises well with Bonemare and Argus obviously but also works fantastically as a deterrent against board clears.
Did you see Kripp's zoo with the Skelemancer? Pretty effective at discouraging clears. The Skalebane's absolutely terrorize though, along with the Despicable dreadlords. Those were an instant craft.
does anyone know why doomguard isn't in the deck? the decks curve is a bit higher than typical zoo but he still seemed to be close to empty handed a lot and a 5 mana 5/7 charge seems too good to pass up. Anyone else have any thoughts on it?
Valvatorez00 The way I see it, Skelemancer is good if they are forced to try and nuke the board. If they don't run board clears, it becomes worse, but still playable if given taunt.
Skelemancer is worthless against other aggressive decks. So Trump's Zoo deck gets better if you're playing against more aggressive opponents because you have those Sea Giants instead of Skelemancers, while Kripp's version of Zoo is way worse against aggro.
5:45 How do i lose this? Tapping yourself below 8 hp against a rouge. And by Playing around an imaginary tank minion in the rouge deck ;). But well, hindsight i guess
Zoo is strong right now, the version I use is similar to Kripps with the skelemancers and eggs, they can be so strong in some matchups but Trump's is probably more consistent, sometimes you draw 5 mana 2/2 and you can't play it or it has low immediate impact, druid with plague is so annoying and paladin divine shield matchups are almost unwinnable
I would assume the 4 mana 4/6 taunt guy is an auto include in this deck, at least over grim necromancer, and with Kaldesh he is a 4 mana 6/8 taunt. Edot: Saronite Chain Gang
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While I agree Zoo is a control deck, there is a bit much tapping and a bit too little tempo/control. First game there was a good turn 3 play in playing out all the Pirates and killing the 2/2. Your minions are buffed, you just need to fight for board. Second game, not very aggressive trading. Coin was held far too long.
Compare this "Zoo" to old zoo. Old zoo, one or two sea giant, 2 doomguards. thats the cap of the curve. this deck runs 5 cards that either do very little when they come out (cobalt dragon and dreadlord), or are situational (black knight). This is a curvestone deck posing as zoo in my opinion. But I'm glad to see Trump trying what he thinks is good so we all can save our dust. This deck is a case of mistaken identity imo.
Whether the deck is good or not (it's not), it's laughable to call it Zoo. No voidwalker, dire wolf, doomguard. And no fallen sun cleric and deathspeaker, which practically scream "put me in Zoo"
The video after this says that this video had some giant paragraph comment criticizing Trump on his gameplay, yet I dont see it here? Was that just a meme?
why would you tap to 6 health against rogue? i know trump's thinking, that you have to get the cards to win or you'll lose any way but i feel like it's so obvious and if he tried to stop the bleeding 2 turns earlier he could win by just making slightly worse plays.
Yeah... No. Played 10 games with this Prince 2 Mana SuxAlot and never got him in my opening hand. Managed to play him once as early as turn 3. 400 dust for me!
You should put Skelemancer in your deck. Not because its a 5 mana 10/10, but because it ruins mage or any other AoE damage. I denies any board clear your opponent might have, allowing zoo to hit face without concequence.
Really shouldn't have tapped on 10 health vs a rogue, let alone another time. That's probably why the first game was a loss. The jade curve was good but the turn 2 prince was good too.
In the Eastern Plaguelands died and raised, in an Ebon Hold is where I spent most of my days, chilling enemies and relaxing with ghouls and striking some paladins outside Stratholmes pools. When a couple of heroes who were up to some good, starting making trouble in my neighbourhood. I got in one little fight and my Lich King got scared, so he raised an army of the dead to spread plague and despair.
Simon Savill This comment deserves more likes XD
9:59 opponent takes additional 8 damage to face for no reason at all: "slight mistrade there by him" -Trump
The "fearless tapping" was a little too fearless here I think. The rogue opponent was much more likely to win with burn than by ever winning the board control contest.
I main control and I always thought zoo was low skill. When I do try this deck I'm quite bad and decisions seem more impactful than whether to 0 heal my opponent or myself on turn 2
Zoo is actually difficult to master and it's definitely not the worst type of agressive deck ever.
You main control?
Jesus christ...
It's a control deck
it's not an aggressive deck that's probably why
You're probably bad because you have something that can heal you on turn 2.
I think you guys are being too harsh on trump. It's the start of a new expansion which means he isn't going to have the best deck list straight away, it takes time and experimenting to get a better deck and that's what he's doing. I think we just need to enjoy the video and chill until experimenting is over and we have the good decks.
I don't understand why the comments are so critical of Trump right now. He played decent Druid and Paladin decks before this one, but the moment he tries out an experimental deck that isn't refined, people call him terrible. Every streamer makes bad decks, but not all of their experimentation is uploaded to YT. I'll admit Trump is not the best theorycrafter (by far), but I'd rather him show his experiments rather than having no content until the meta settles.
That "sorry about that" rogue edit in the beginning 😭😭 praise jens
I'm actually finding Skelemancer a really good card. Synergises well with Bonemare and Argus obviously but also works fantastically as a deterrent against board clears.
Did you see Kripp's zoo with the Skelemancer? Pretty effective at discouraging clears.
The Skalebane's absolutely terrorize though, along with the Despicable dreadlords. Those were an instant craft.
does anyone know why doomguard isn't in the deck? the decks curve is a bit higher than typical zoo but he still seemed to be close to empty handed a lot and a 5 mana 5/7 charge seems too good to pass up. Anyone else have any thoughts on it?
I love all this warcraft 3 music you keep using Jens. Brings back memories
Where is the warcraft 3 music?
Always tapping where no tapping is needed and minions would be better
I actually pulled that Legendary in Gold , seems like a more solid card than i thought
Still wondering about the outro song, anyone know what it's name is?
Gustav Modin Invincible
just google/youtube WoW invincible song
I just remember it as "the song that played at the end of warcraft 3 that I loved"
fake latin sounds bad
10:00 "Slight missplay there by him"
Yeah he slightly took 10 damage to the face instead of 2. Good druid.
Doctor: You have 15 minutes and 9 seconds to live.
Me: Browses Reddit
So you missed the outro?
I think kripp's Frozen Throne’s Best Day One Deck video/deck might be a bit better. I didn't realise how strong skelemancer would be
It is better, not by a bit either. ;)
Yea its really strong, and also cheap.
Valvatorez00 The way I see it, Skelemancer is good if they are forced to try and nuke the board. If they don't run board clears, it becomes worse, but still playable if given taunt.
Trump also did not realise it.
Skelemancer is worthless against other aggressive decks. So Trump's Zoo deck gets better if you're playing against more aggressive opponents because you have those Sea Giants instead of Skelemancers, while Kripp's version of Zoo is way worse against aggro.
why are you tapping at 10 health as if you have reno in your deck lul
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S T A R
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May I ask to include the copy/paste link for the decks in these videos?
That rogue literally had the best starting hand and draws
and the druid had a really good start
*Put to 1 HP*
"Oh good, I can still tap"
its amazing how much this meta still relies on cards from gadgetzan
I'm actually happy I opened Prince Keleseth, because I would never craft him but he's perfect for zoo decks.
Jacob yeah kinda my problem.. would love to try this deck out but no way i gonna throw 1600 dust on that pos
Loving the songs at the end of the vids.
Glad to know good commons exist for us free to play players.
Just from that small sample size I saw so much power from bonemare lol. Really seems like it fits in any deck that can make stuff stick. New doctor 7?
Love the title & thumb ;)
There's a control element to zoo, but that doesn't mean it should be played at Trump speed.
14:10 Netdecking Kripp in 2017 LUL
Nice, you found a deck where my golden prince works in. Thank god thought he was useless!
Could you bounce Keleseth for repeated +1/+1 buffs?
I dont see why not, but what are you going to bounce him with?
Fun idea though. I guess ill try to make it work in a pally deck?
yeah
Boates Bounce with brewmasters!
Wait
GhostElite974 nah dude the good ones cost 2. I was thinking getaway kodos and maybe one of the expensive ones along with handbuff
But the hydrologist and pyromancers are so useful though. And the outfitter as well.
I literally said "bone mayor of value town" a second before trump did. That was spooky
5:45
How do i lose this?
Tapping yourself below 8 hp against a rouge.
And by Playing around an imaginary tank minion in the rouge deck ;).
But well, hindsight i guess
I'm hoping to hear Trump say "why is everyone saying coin ghoul?!"
If you use the new skelly then you have double ravenous pterodax and that egg that spawns a 5/5. Pretty sweeet.
I would appreciate deck code in description. :)
I personally think kripps version(the one he played) was better as a more aggressive deck, then more of a control deck like trumps version.
It's back!
aaaaaand it's gone...
can you try putting the all the prince in hearthstone in a deck and see if it works?
Why did that Druid take an extra 8 damage? Was he playing around something? I really want to know his strategy there
Until I'm able to get one, would Siphon Soul be a good replacement for Black Knight?
Yes. Gains health, more versatile. You lose the 4/5 body though.
It's absolutely a valid substitute.
How much did you spend on Frozen Throne? Just curious
Trump's mindset is so limited from time to time he doesn't see that skelemancer is insanely good against boardclears
Is that the music from Warcraft III?
Is the one star in your description the rating for your deck?
Skelemancer is really strong against midrange and control decks because it makes your opponent's board clears really shitty.
When did Jens start doing the Trolden style editing?
Zoo is strong right now, the version I use is similar to Kripps with the skelemancers and eggs, they can be so strong in some matchups but Trump's is probably more consistent, sometimes you draw 5 mana 2/2 and you can't play it or it has low immediate impact, druid with plague is so annoying and paladin divine shield matchups are almost unwinnable
I would assume the 4 mana 4/6 taunt guy is an auto include in this deck, at least over grim necromancer, and with Kaldesh he is a 4 mana 6/8 taunt.
Edot: Saronite Chain Gang
boi add skelemancer in that deck, it's a perfect fit.
What could I replace the patches package with?
why's he not running voidwalkers?
Why is everyone talking about Trump being bad? This decklist had a good winrate, and that comeback at 7:40 was awesome.
i think midrange hunter will come back im having decent sucess with that deck right now
That feeling when video was uploaded 3 seconds ago
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please editor-san, invincible at the end of the videos makes me sad. too much wotlk memories.
A rage face in 2017. Now I've seen it all.
>taps with 8 health against rogue
>omg how did i lose?
RickyBalboa he would have lost without tapping as well though
Do people still use blood imp?
What's the ending music?
Anyone knows the ending music?
keleseth is the only prince that could see play
No Void walker? then it is not a normal zoo lock...
So who is in charge now ?
What about eggs in the deck? think about it
Never change, bro.
ITT: people who have a problem with Trump experimenting with decks
I have no idea how is this dwarf winning.
Completely punted the first game lol, whatre you tapping for? Doomguard? lol
do someone know the outro song?
While I agree Zoo is a control deck, there is a bit much tapping and a bit too little tempo/control. First game there was a good turn 3 play in playing out all the Pirates and killing the 2/2. Your minions are buffed, you just need to fight for board. Second game, not very aggressive trading. Coin was held far too long.
Whats the outro song from ?
Compare this "Zoo" to old zoo. Old zoo, one or two sea giant, 2 doomguards. thats the cap of the curve. this deck runs 5 cards that either do very little when they come out (cobalt dragon and dreadlord), or are situational (black knight). This is a curvestone deck posing as zoo in my opinion. But I'm glad to see Trump trying what he thinks is good so we all can save our dust. This deck is a case of mistaken identity imo.
Whether the deck is good or not (it's not), it's laughable to call it Zoo. No voidwalker, dire wolf, doomguard. And no fallen sun cleric and deathspeaker, which practically scream "put me in Zoo"
They didn't scream loud enough for trump to hear.
Should try Skelemancer. Honestly, its just amazing. Especially with Bonemare.
can u put arthas in one of your decks pls?????
Henrique Sant'Anna its a ZOO deck
so what we learned from this is:
bonemare OP
Btw zoo is a board control deck
Which decktracker is he using?
GuyFactionArts tried and true hearthstone deck tracker hsdecktracker.net
Today I had my opponent playing coin prince keleseth on turn 1, I lost miserably :/
The video after this says that this video had some giant paragraph comment criticizing Trump on his gameplay, yet I dont see it here? Was that just a meme?
No, it was deleted from here, and guy who wrote it was serious.
Yo yo yo, my hearthstone peeps. Riddle me dis. Why Possessed Villager instead of Argent Squire? Squire keeps attack buffs, and PO ain't here no more.
Darkshire Councilman triggers maybe.
WHAT!? This is not a dungeon. Where the monsters at!!? I'm scared of not monsters!
Well Prison Trump make an icy comeback? :thinking:
why would you tap to 6 health against rogue? i know trump's thinking, that you have to get the cards to win or you'll lose any way but i feel like it's so obvious and if he tried to stop the bleeding 2 turns earlier he could win by just making slightly worse plays.
I disagree with adding Skelemancer because this deck is so big that most AoE doesn't cripple it.
Yeah... No. Played 10 games with this Prince 2 Mana SuxAlot and never got him in my opening hand. Managed to play him once as early as turn 3. 400 dust for me!
10 games is not a sample size.
With my RNG... It is good enough for me :P
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You should put Skelemancer in your deck. Not because its a 5 mana 10/10, but because it ruins mage or any other AoE damage. I denies any board clear your opponent might have, allowing zoo to hit face without concequence.
How did you lose g1?
Dealing 14dmg to yourself with no healing, including tapping twice under 10hp, while dying with 3cards in hand.
Thats how
Where's the Darkest Dungeon T - T?
Cheers for Warcraft III theme song
5.46 how do i lose when i drew prince keleseth on turn 2! i dont even know... never lucky!~~ #trump 2017
Kripp's list is better. Been using it with great success.
I play the zoo that "does egg stuff"
This is the first time I have ever been early
Really shouldn't have tapped on 10 health vs a rogue, let alone another time. That's probably why the first game was a loss. The jade curve was good but the turn 2 prince was good too.
Thumbs up for the thumbnail alone. I didn't even watch the video ;)
Skelemancer is a great anti board clear
Doom guard instead of dreadlord and this deck is tier 1.