@@kennkoala By earth's, I believe he's just talking about habitable planetary bodies, moon or planet. Judging from other firefly material produced since (which probably still isn't canon but it's something), there doesn't seem to be 70 planets in the firefly system but we're close to that number counting terraformed moons. Also the alliance controls a vast number of those earth's either way so much less for everyone else.
@@andersonprimer Meek means what it means, _mjukr_ from Old Norse means "soft, pliant, gentle" and _muik_ in Dutch means just "soft". What I'd guess you are referring to is the bible verse, which was translated poorly - translating Latin word _mansuetus_ as meek. _Manus_ means "hand", _suescere_ means "habituated, accustomed" combined into mansuetus; the trait of having trained, controlled hands.
nero91 The best part is she says it so offhandedly, the same way you would tell someone their hair was messed up before getting back to the real issue at hand.
"I'm in the family way." Okay, there is NO WAY that they got that scene in one take. They had to have stopped it at least once because somebody was doubled over in laughter.
I love how River thinks that it's appropriate to marry her brother because in her mind, love just means love, and there aren't any different versions of it. :) kinda makes me both happy and sad.
River said in a soft tone "I didn't see you" to Saffron. How finely written these episodes were. The notion of River being a psychic somehow creeps in and then of course we've seen her kill three men with a gun not even looking at them in "War stories", not to mention the movie. That show was really something special.
I wanted to marry my grandpa til I was almost four... When I proposed, he kind of laughed and said, "I don't think your grandmother would like that too much, besides, you'll find someone you like better, promise." And I did.
"There's more than 70 Earths spinning about the galaxy and the meek have inherited not a one." That's such a great line for Malcom, a man who lost his faith after losing a war for independence.
My favorite line in this episode is from Shepard; "if you take advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell, a level they reserve for child molesters, and people who talk at the theater"
i've used that line many times on my friends. particularly on one of my friends. found out she doesn't like pizza. at all. i said multiple times "there's a special place in hell for people who don't like pizza. a level they reserve for child molesters, and people who talk in the theater"
@@nevillewran4083 i understand how shitty that sounds now. i don't remember the reason for why i used that phrasing. i'll edit that. thanks for bringing it to my attention. normally i only bring up that shes trans when that detail is relevant. i don't know why i put that in that comment.
"You're a thief" Mal assumed she meant the stolen food packet. River says under her breath "Didn't see it" She was actually talking about gleaning that Saffron was a trickster and con artist
"Now we have to be married.. I'm in the family way" Hahahahaha I love Summer Glau. Her adorableness makes me cringe. Even on Terminator! Thanks for uploading, babe :) Such a good show. I wish these scenes weren't deleted. Boo you, Fox for not being risk takers.
This is a really good scene. Everything it shows us - River’s innocence and naivety and insecurities, Simon trying to explain to her why they can’t be married, River exposing Saffron and giving us another subtle hint of her psychic abilities, Mal’s response to Saffron taking the food - all that is really good. The bit where Simon calls her crazy does seem slightly out of character, but it doesn’t seem like a complete character break, to be honest. He didn’t really mean it, he was just shocked by what she had said and was trying to think of an excuse to give to Book. I mean, he apologised immediately.
Loved it! :) Joss was right, if you had to delete something that was almost 4 minutes long without corrupting the storyline, this was (unfortunately) the scene to remove. Still, loved how River is giving Simon such a hard time, and I love Mal really telling Saffron off about her supposed meekness. (She was gettin' on my nerves with that too.) Such a great line, too: "There are about 70 earths spinning anout the galaxy and the meek have inherited not a one of 'em."
I thought it was neat that he said that because in the Bible it says that the meek shall inherit the earth. He was at one point a Christian as it shows in the first episode.
@Fredcheesburger Only if you don't watch the episode. 1: Mal all ready told Yosaffbridge that she could help herself to the kitchen. So, assuming you watched this and you didn't know what was going to happen later in the episode, why wouldn't he just say, "No, it's okay. I all ready told you to grab something if you were hungry." 2: He all ready gave her a speech about killing people who try to kill her, in otherwords, standing up for herself. This is repeating what he already told her.
Found this accidentally looking for something, ANYTHING, to fill the void left after watching this full series and movie. Now I'm gonna search every deleted scene :) Love it!
She's a little touched in the head because of some government experiment, and she has trouble understanding the subtle nuances of human interaction. In her mind, she and her brother love each other, and people who love each other get married, not understanding why it's inappropriate.
I always thought that a great many of River's crazy notions was her being pychic and saying things someone else had randomly thought. I think maybe River got the marry idea because the whole 'gift wife to Mal' incident made someone think in terms of marriage and River heard someone think 'Simon's as good as married to his sis.' Simon avoided courting Kaylee in part because he's his sisters keeper, in a way River is his Ball and Chain.
Here Shepard Book says "I'm still collating data." In the first episode, when Mal is talking to Patience, she says "Just collating data" when referring to the stolen food bars. Shepard Book worked for the Alliance.
@@usul573 Although they wrote a different explanation in the graphic novel, I will always believe Whedon had planned to do what he eventually did with the character Boyd from Dollhouse (and make Shepherd turn out to have been a bad guy all along). Whedon tends to carry ideas he didn't get to do along until he can use them. Pretty sure the antagonist in Serenity would have basically been the role that Shepard Book eventually played if the show had continued. Although I'm very glad to have the non-evil Shepard we've been left with.
@@rachael8646 I always felt that was disingenuous, that Boyd twist, it wasn't something planned or consistent with the character, it was a *GASP* moment. Bad guy all along! I think it would not have happened if they got a full five seasons of Dollhouse and such. I could be wrong. Same with Book. If he was gathering info for the alliance, kind of an absurd long game and retroactive. I think Book truly is just a priest, but before that long story and connections to Alliance and crime and his ID card has a special status for life at least.
I watched this thinking to myself I do not remember this scene and then I notice the deleted part about it.......lol. Show was great and a ball the execs literally and figuratively dropped.
Poor sweet little river. She might be crazier than a sack of cats at least she's never boring. The look on Simon's face when she suggested they get married was beyond priceless.
Rather than childlike innocence, perhaps she's operating more out of desperation. Book is avowed to celibacy, so with Mal married off by whatever means, then the only two eligible men on the ship, e.g. in her world, are Simon and Jayne. Given her antagonistic relationship with the latter, perhaps she had decided that incest was the better option. As for the "She's a thief!" That could be a manifestation of her psychic abilities, knowing Saffron correctly before the others got any indication.
I was like I watches this series dozens of times... how do I not know this scene. Then I noticed the description saying deleted scene. Though I will say I had the DVD box set, and watches pretty much all the commentary and such. Don't remember this if I ever saw it.
I think maybe if it was written a little differently, maybe Simon awkwardly trying to explain the difference between familial and romantic love while the preacher is judging him with a slowly raising eyebrow like he does with Mal in this episode, and his out-of-character reaction being better explained as him trying to escape the preachers wrath, it could have been included. There's some good and funny lines here that didn't deserve cutting; Mal's speech especially.
Only reason it was deleted, I heard, cause it made the episode too long. This is River's only scene. Every other time we see her she's in the ba ckground
I'm just wondering what Saffron is really thinking when Mal is giving her that lecture. Probably "Fool has no damn idea, I'm about to mess up his day."
This show was cancelled after one Season and Jersey Shore was on for 6 Seasons, I don't want to live on this planet anymore, Please Serenity take me away!!!
"She's feeling crazy" *kick* "OW!" I feel that 5 seconds of exchange totally validates Citadel1221's point about how River is still emotionally very young.
2:12 Man, River can make me laugh. Lol at her putting the pillow under her dress. 2:20 She's fixing it. 3:36 She's pregant! Man, I miss this show. One thing I found a little weird though, she didn't look like she was kidding. Bet alot of Tamcest fans loved this. =) I know I did.
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"Near about 70 earths spinning about the galaxy and the meek have inherited not a one."
What a line to not make it in!!
70 Earths? Why live on the little moons if there are 70 planets each faction could live freely upon?
@@kennkoala By earth's, I believe he's just talking about habitable planetary bodies, moon or planet. Judging from other firefly material produced since (which probably still isn't canon but it's something), there doesn't seem to be 70 planets in the firefly system but we're close to that number counting terraformed moons.
Also the alliance controls a vast number of those earth's either way so much less for everyone else.
@@kennkoala Because there's a fuckton of moons for each planet.
@@andersonprimer Meek means what it means, _mjukr_ from Old Norse means "soft, pliant, gentle" and _muik_ in Dutch means just "soft".
What I'd guess you are referring to is the bible verse, which was translated poorly - translating Latin word _mansuetus_ as meek.
_Manus_ means "hand", _suescere_ means "habituated, accustomed" combined into mansuetus; the trait of having trained, controlled hands.
I love how river just instantly says "you're a thief". Boom. Shit should've stayed.
nero91 The best part is she says it so offhandedly, the same way you would tell someone their hair was messed up before getting back to the real issue at hand.
"We'll take care of each other. I'll knit." Best part :)
"Yes, we frown on that here." Perfect delivery. I love Ron Glass.
"I didn't know she saw me"
"I didn't see you" BOOM!
"I'm in the family way."
Okay, there is NO WAY that they got that scene in one take. They had to have stopped it at least once because somebody was doubled over in laughter.
I love how River thinks that it's appropriate to marry her brother because in her mind, love just means love, and there aren't any different versions of it. :) kinda makes me both happy and sad.
She also read the Bible and tried to edit out the part she didn't think worked.
ur sad she doesn't think of love as humping like an animal? okay....
@@Cerbyo to be completely fair, humping like animals works for siblings perfectly well too.
@Анатолий Бронштейн….. Wat da fuq!?!
@@miloradowicz Gonna try that later. Lol.
"I didn't see you". Sums up that River wasn't just talking about the swiped ration. :D I love all the subtleties.
Or she mind-read it.
@@BradyPostma in the words of Peanut "niiiieeeerrrrggghhhhmmm"
River said in a soft tone "I didn't see you" to Saffron. How finely written these episodes were. The notion of River being a psychic somehow creeps in and then of course we've seen her kill three men with a gun not even looking at them in "War stories", not to mention the movie. That show was really something special.
River: "I'll knit" XD
She says it with so much pride. I love it.
I had the same response. 👍🏼
I wanted to marry my grandpa til I was almost four... When I proposed, he kind of laughed and said, "I don't think your grandmother would like that too much, besides, you'll find someone you like better, promise." And I did.
"I got no use for people sneaking around taking what ain't theirs"
"Yes, we frown on that here"
Love Book!
"There's more than 70 Earths spinning about the galaxy and the meek have inherited not a one." That's such a great line for Malcom, a man who lost his faith after losing a war for independence.
Turns out those who aren't meek don't necessarily inherit jack, but at least they try. The meek don't even have that going for them.
River - "I'll Knit..."
Shepherd - "You'll go to the Special Hell...."
My favorite line in this episode is from Shepard; "if you take advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell, a level they reserve for child molesters, and people who talk at the theater"
i've used that line many times on my friends. particularly on one of my friends. found out she doesn't like pizza. at all. i said multiple times "there's a special place in hell for people who don't like pizza. a level they reserve for child molesters, and people who talk in the theater"
@@DavidLinn That's how you describe her? "My transgender friend"?
@@nevillewran4083 i understand how shitty that sounds now. i don't remember the reason for why i used that phrasing. i'll edit that. thanks for bringing it to my attention. normally i only bring up that shes trans when that detail is relevant. i don't know why i put that in that comment.
@@DavidLinn I don't know why I say half the shit I do online. Or why I phrase it a certain way.
I love this scene, it's like a kid saying they want to marry their parent, it's cute and wholesome
Simon's face at the end...lmao...priceless!
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW cute. He called her Mei Mei.
No shit!
nan
"You're a thief" Mal assumed she meant the stolen food packet. River says under her breath
"Didn't see it"
She was actually talking about gleaning that Saffron was a trickster and con artist
...and / or that she didn't need to see Mrs.Reynolds taking it, because she's psychic and just knew it was the case.
I love how many times Mal contradicts himself during his little speech.
"Now we have to be married.. I'm in the family way"
Hahahahaha I love Summer Glau. Her adorableness makes me cringe. Even on Terminator! Thanks for uploading, babe :) Such a good show. I wish these scenes weren't deleted. Boo you, Fox for not being risk takers.
River IS whack job crazy. But she realizes it and and fortunately for us, she uses it to yank the chains of all around her.
Crazy? Most of what she says makes perfect sense when you think about it...
Moreththerogue I like your picture
i used to want river as a girlfriend. but after having a friend who was crazier than she is, i decided mental stability is the thing for me
I mean she was basically tortured and experimented on, so we should let that slide
This is a really good scene. Everything it shows us - River’s innocence and naivety and insecurities, Simon trying to explain to her why they can’t be married, River exposing Saffron and giving us another subtle hint of her psychic abilities, Mal’s response to Saffron taking the food - all that is really good. The bit where Simon calls her crazy does seem slightly out of character, but it doesn’t seem like a complete character break, to be honest. He didn’t really mean it, he was just shocked by what she had said and was trying to think of an excuse to give to Book. I mean, he apologised immediately.
Best argument from River "I'll knit". xD
I totally love that girl. :)
would love to see a "directors cut' of the entire series!!!
Loved it! :) Joss was right, if you had to delete something that was almost 4 minutes long without corrupting the storyline, this was (unfortunately) the scene to remove. Still, loved how River is giving Simon such a hard time, and I love Mal really telling Saffron off about her supposed meekness. (She was gettin' on my nerves with that too.) Such a great line, too: "There are about 70 earths spinning anout the galaxy and the meek have inherited not a one of 'em."
I thought it was neat that he said that because in the Bible it says that the meek shall inherit the earth. He was at one point a Christian as it shows in the first episode.
Seems like River is just playing with them at by the end.
@Fredcheesburger Only if you don't watch the episode.
1: Mal all ready told Yosaffbridge that she could help herself to the kitchen. So, assuming you watched this and you didn't know what was going to happen later in the episode, why wouldn't he just say, "No, it's okay. I all ready told you to grab something if you were hungry."
2: He all ready gave her a speech about killing people who try to kill her, in otherwords, standing up for herself. This is repeating what he already told her.
Found this accidentally looking for something, ANYTHING, to fill the void left after watching this full series and movie. Now I'm gonna search every deleted scene :) Love it!
'I got no use for people sneaking off an takin' what aint there's'
'Yes we, frown on that here'
such a great scene, thanks for the upload...
After rewatching the episode, I was wondering this scene wasn't in there. Thought I dreamed it or something.
Thank you for posting this, I was wondering why the hell River was even in this episode. She has no lines in the final cut, she's just sort of there.
What’s funny is that if people pay attention to River she actually predicts everything that happens in the show.
oh my god I just died laughing "now we have to get married" ...now I have to get the dvd sets so I can see the deleted scenes. River is a riot!
river had me laughing in this scene
Would you say this scene was "Phenomenal"...
I'll see myself out
She's a little touched in the head because of some government experiment, and she has trouble understanding the subtle nuances of human interaction. In her mind, she and her brother love each other, and people who love each other get married, not understanding why it's inappropriate.
I always thought that a great many of River's crazy notions was her being pychic and saying things someone else had randomly thought. I think maybe River got the marry idea because the whole 'gift wife to Mal' incident made someone think in terms of marriage and River heard someone think 'Simon's as good as married to his sis.'
Simon avoided courting Kaylee in part because he's his sisters keeper, in a way River is his Ball and Chain.
lolololol... i just love simon's face at the end! he's just like, ,"that is wrong on so many levels, River!"
XDDD
Good lord, now that I've seen this, that scene at the end of the movie when River is spying on Simon and Kaylee from the vents is even creepier.
Ceiling River is watching you copulate
@@Luinta hot
If you want to get creepier: I think Kaylee wouldn't have minded.
@@maigretus1 I mean, based on the way she and Mal first met, I think you might be right there.
RIP Ron Glass
Been re-watching the Barney Miller episodes. Such a handsome man he was.
River: Now we have to be married. In the family way.
Simon: ô.o
I freaking lost it.
Glad they cut this bit. Smart smart people on this set.
Simon's horrified face at the end (subtly horrified and confused) just makes this scene. Sean is a great actor.
Here Shepard Book says "I'm still collating data." In the first episode, when Mal is talking to Patience, she says "Just collating data" when referring to the stolen food bars.
Shepard Book worked for the Alliance.
At one point I'm sure he did.
There's a whole graphic novel that covers Book's backstory. Works backwards [Memento style] from Serenity.
@@dugclrk If nothing else, his ID card says "VIP STATUS".
@@usul573 Although they wrote a different explanation in the graphic novel, I will always believe Whedon had planned to do what he eventually did with the character Boyd from Dollhouse (and make Shepherd turn out to have been a bad guy all along). Whedon tends to carry ideas he didn't get to do along until he can use them. Pretty sure the antagonist in Serenity would have basically been the role that Shepard Book eventually played if the show had continued. Although I'm very glad to have the non-evil Shepard we've been left with.
@@rachael8646 I always felt that was disingenuous, that Boyd twist, it wasn't something planned or consistent with the character, it was a *GASP* moment. Bad guy all along! I think it would not have happened if they got a full five seasons of Dollhouse and such. I could be wrong. Same with Book. If he was gathering info for the alliance, kind of an absurd long game and retroactive. I think Book truly is just a priest, but before that long story and connections to Alliance and crime and his ID card has a special status for life at least.
hahaha "There's more than 70 earths spinning about the galaxy and the meek have inherited not a one" lol I love it
I miss this show
I watched this thinking to myself I do not remember this scene and then I notice the deleted part about it.......lol. Show was great and a ball the execs literally and figuratively dropped.
Aww, River. "That's not something brothers and sisters do." She's so insane it adorable.
"I' mean on some planets, but only really bad ones"
haha his is great! thanks so much
HOORAY!! A Firefly scene I haven't seen! I'm so happy!!!!!
I'd marry Summer Glau if she came up to me and said so. I am so jealous of her husband. ARGHHHHH
Damatovg you're not the only one man
true. but speaking for this episode, it was harder for me to avert my eyes from christina hendricks.
Poor sweet little river. She might be crazier than a sack of cats at least she's never boring. The look on Simon's face when she suggested they get married was beyond priceless.
That cracks me up everytime!
I LOVE THIS SCEEN! Damn this should have bene in the episode! For so many reasons.
DIRECTOR'S CUT! Then Season 2.
“Well, on some planets but… only really bad ones”
I love Book. “Yes, we’re friend frown on that here.”🤣
Simon+River > Jaime+Cersei
Someone HAD to mention those two, right? XD
William Signs
Let the games begin. Live or die. Make your choice.
God of Abraham >George R.R Martin.
Putting the pillow in her shirt. Oh, River. xD
Damn this is some good writing! I'm pissed anew Firefly went so quickly.
I watched it twice, only then I realized where river hid the pillows lol
Now I understand why Simon looks like that at the end lol
"there's more than 70 earth's spinnin about the galaxy and the meek have inherited not a one." i LOVE that! wish they had left this in!
I'll Knit!! :D love her face when she says that line!
Even though River is a bad ass in many ways, I enjoy how innocent she is and how sweet she can be
Somewhere on the internet, there exists a fanfiction that is based on this scene.
Ya just KNOW it's out there.
Wincest?
Rather than childlike innocence, perhaps she's operating more out of desperation. Book is avowed to celibacy, so with Mal married off by whatever means, then the only two eligible men on the ship, e.g. in her world, are Simon and Jayne. Given her antagonistic relationship with the latter, perhaps she had decided that incest was the better option.
As for the "She's a thief!" That could be a manifestation of her psychic abilities, knowing Saffron correctly before the others got any indication.
I was like I watches this series dozens of times... how do I not know this scene. Then I noticed the description saying deleted scene. Though I will say I had the DVD box set, and watches pretty much all the commentary and such. Don't remember this if I ever saw it.
It helps to add background noise. I'm listening to relaxing rain and car noises with this.
I think maybe if it was written a little differently, maybe Simon awkwardly trying to explain the difference between familial and romantic love while the preacher is judging him with a slowly raising eyebrow like he does with Mal in this episode, and his out-of-character reaction being better explained as him trying to escape the preachers wrath, it could have been included. There's some good and funny lines here that didn't deserve cutting; Mal's speech especially.
This scene has so much loreshadowing in it.
omg, just River stuffing the pillow up her shirt in the background.
Such an awesome scene. Can't believe they deleted it. River was hilarious :)
Only reason it was deleted, I heard, cause it made the episode too long. This is River's only scene. Every other time we see her she's in the ba ckground
This is a good scene, should've been in the episode
oh i love you Malcolm Reynolds
I'm just wondering what Saffron is really thinking when Mal is giving her that lecture. Probably "Fool has no damn idea, I'm about to mess up his day."
It means "little sister". That's the term of endearment Simon uses for River throughout the series.
This is honestly one of the best scenes i ever saw. Hilarious!!!!
Just occurred to me - in this episode, Christina Hendricks was a dudette playing a dudette who was playing another dudette.
Bahahaha oh river
This was a great scene, I wish they had kept it in. Still, glad it's here online.
"I'll knit!" omg River I love you.
Was river acting out the psychic impressions SBI was picking up from “Saffron’s” mind? 😂 this show was bloody genius
Haha, Simon's face at the end just kinda says, "da fuq?"
Great show I miss it
I love Mal's philosophies
I'm glad they cut Simon calling her crazy but river is just so damn adorable in this scene
There's about 70 Earths floatin' about now and the Meek have inherited not one.
And that is why everything that Mal says is awesome.
Ah, now it makes sense.
"I'll knit!" XD
Only some planets... but only pretty bad ones. Ha ha ha
"On some planets, but only really bad ones". The Cornish colonised the 'verse?
This is hilarious! I really wish they'd have kept this scene!
River is like the kids in horror movies, they do or say something
Take it seriously or get drugged, robbed and almost lose your home
I think he was more referring to her being all sneaky about it.
This show was cancelled after one Season and Jersey Shore was on for 6 Seasons, I don't want to live on this planet anymore, Please Serenity take me away!!!
Absolutely NO knitting, River!! I saw those online sessions! Not to be trusted with pointy things!
"She's feeling crazy"
*kick*
"OW!"
I feel that 5 seconds of exchange totally validates Citadel1221's point about how River is still emotionally very young.
awwww. River is so sweet.
I love, how Mal is rating Saffron because of the theft ...
And the look of Simon in the end of the scene! *lmao*
2:12 Man, River can make me laugh. Lol at her putting the pillow under her dress.
2:20 She's fixing it.
3:36 She's pregant!
Man, I miss this show.
One thing I found a little weird though, she didn't look like she was kidding.
Bet alot of Tamcest fans loved this. =) I know I did.
I love how she says she'll knit lol