@@j.b.998 nobody cares about black Superman. They don’t care about the comics and they don’t care about this dogshit movie idea. The racism card is worthless now. Card declined. Cope harder
@j.b.998 Movies are not comics. The only way it would work on film would be an actual Crisis storyline which also had Kal-El Superman in it. A standalone Val-Zod story would get panned my the audience for being woke. Do you really want the DCU to go down the path of recent MCU and Star Wars films? Did you just call me a racist?
@ThanosDestroyeryearsago only the woke minority would be for for that movie. Go look at the reaction to Sam Wilson As Captain America. Most people see Steve Rogers as Cap,
@@SmoothLife. Because at least Icon is (slightly) more original, with a better costume, and is in the same universe as Superman (making things less complicated).
@@SmoothLife. Miles is overrated as hell (not bad, but not even nearly as good as his sychophants pretend he is). Also, it's kind of sad to prefer a palette-swap knockoff over an original character.
@assassinsknight well Batman caped crusader came out this past fall and it was decent. I liked it. Yes it is woke in places, but Batman is still Batman.
You know how many iterations of Batman that take place in the 1940s?!?!? I say this is fine. Let some elseworld stories take place. Cuz the only elseworld stories people care about is THE BATMAN franchise. We could’ve had Joker have a franchise if the sequel was any good. Superman and Lois is over by the time the DCU even begun. So we can use some elseworlds.
Yeah, I can see it working on Max honestly. A limited series (if it was gonna be a small period piece thing) would work, though I guess they’d have to restructure it as a TV show. I mean there’s no way folks would get confused and it’s more Superman content, so why not.
Icon is there many black superheroes that are not from dc or marvel and they still want white charecters to be black when they have a lot of black charecters they don't even have static and theyre think of a black superman and yet val zod is there
A Man of Steel trilogy would have been really good back then. With Faora and Brainiac in the second film. And Lex Luthor and Metallo in the third film. But Warner had no idea what they were doing.🙄
Honestly, of all movies and deals WBD should cancel and do away with, it's the stuff with JJ Abrams. Dude hasn't done anything in years and he's had a deal with WB for how long, then it got renewed? Like, it should be canned.
Dude ..let it go...no more Snyder We have moved on & its not coming back...but we definitely can use more elseworld stories in the multiverse...especially when they sold well in comics Val Zod or Calvin Ellis
Here’s why not. After the firing of Cavill and cancellation of the very popular SUPERMAN AND LOIS, all most reliable audiences (ie, fans) would likely see in a black Superman movie is an opportunity for Hollywood to once again preach its politics, especially if it’s written by Ta Nahisi Coates. The movie would likely be ratio’d into oblivion and all but destroy a lot of whatever goodwill Gunn’s DCU has because even as an Elseworlds project, everyone knows that only Gunn and Safran have the authority to allow it. And no, calling audiences idiots and bigots won’t help anything whether it’s true or not.
No its not, WB gave him 500 million to produce movies for DC for 5 years and that ends next year. In that time, he hasn't written any scripts for DC, just a crappy alternate universe Spider-man book for Marvel. Jeff Scheider also confirmed that this and Constantine are dead just last week on the Hot Mic Podcast.
I black and I 50/50 on this movie, that it the black superman going be woke or really a good movie, if the movie focus on superman being black I not watch it and if the movie going be about superman being hope then I would watch it cause there it a black superman in the comic and it focus more on him being a hero to the people but J.J Abrams got a bad track record, so I doubt this movie will be good
It should be a BLACK Superman Red Son. He should be what Paul Robeson (famous black American musician/athlete of the 1940s) was to the Soviets. That would be a perfect ELSEWORLD film.
I just hope J.J. Abrams just receives Producer credit & doesn't actually have anything thing script wise & directing wise with the movie. I also want Ta-Nehisi Coates is removed as writer cause I don't want a Black Clark Kent or a racial period piece. Just make a Calvin Ellis/President Superman a DCU Original Elseworld. That way it can open the door to us seeing The Earth 23 Justice League which has all Black members & more importantly open up the door to The Justice Incarnate.
Ok we have Pattinson and the DCU Batman whoever it is but The DCU Superman should be the only one why have 2 supermen I honestly forgot JJ was still with WB DC to be honest
Why? I feel like if this is made, it should be a new character. No one wants Superman, with the only difference being his skin colour. We should ceeate new stories rather than lazily reskin old ones while pretending that's reputation. I'm all for a black man with Superman level powers, and especially in the 1930s, as this has the potential to truly be a story of beauty and true justice. I'm not hating on the idea, I just feel like this needs to change way more than, oh, look, here's black Clark Kent, no other differences, just that. The reason Miles Morales works so well is because he's a completely new character with a completely new story, a well written and thought-out one as well. Miles Morales isn't a cheap cash grab disguised as representation. He isn't just black Peter Parker. I hope if this is made, they find a way to really justify not just creating a new character. Imagen if instead of creating Static Shock, they just made black Shazam for a comic run, everyone would forget and move on, but when they created a new character in Static Shock, it created a Black Icon in comics. And speaking of Icons, why not create an ICON film? ICON is just as powerful, if not just as powerful as Superman, and represents hope in the same way. There would be so much potential to help give us a permanent new black hero or help make other ones like ICON way more famous. I hope it works out, but it needs to be more than false representation for quick money. Merry Christmas to those reading. ❤
@ nobody wants Superman to be black lol. Except black people with insecurities and crazy self hating white leftists. Stick to source material and it will be fine. Race swapping bullshit is a sure fire way to fail and lose hundreds of millions of dollars. DC isn’t your protest sign. Create your own shit
Aww what’s wrong your frail white ego can’t accept a black Superman. Typical from people like you . Just like I bet a Black Captain America triggers you also 😂😂.
So they cancel superman and loise but not this out all the things they choose to cancel but they dont cancel this unnecessary thing the people wb don't make no sense
Um no were good Gunns Superman is fine with me. There is only one elseworld superman story I might consider and that's MOS 2 with Cavill hopefully without snyder but if it isn't that we don't need a elseworld Superman right now.
How is it woke To have an elseworld story of Superman, WHO WONT EVEN BE CLARK KENT and take place in the 1930s?!?!?! Do you even know the definition of woke???? Tell me the definition right now you p***y! I dare you
All these IGNORANT comments...reveal yall are truly ignorant & clearly dont follow comics...there DEFINITELY is more than one Black Superman in comics & yet....it didn't break anything (Calvin Ellis, Val Zod, etc..) FYI...Marvel comics thought this about Spider-Man & yet Miles Morales is blowing up💪🏾💯👍🏾✊🏾 So just STOP with the bullshit racism...& just enjoy comic inspired stuff. Yall sound crazy with this nonsense hating on something that already exists & went over fine with readers...me included
@@j.b.998 fuck off. Nobody considers miles morales Spider-Man or even close to the same popularity as Spider-Man. Nobody wants to see black Superman except black people with serious insecurity issues and retarded leftist white people. Nobody cares about Val Zod or Calvin Ellis. You losers need to make your own culture and characters. Stop stealing shit
@michellewilson6249 that's more understandable...all of us fans want the new DCU to succeed but why thr overwhelming outrage of not even making the movie was my issue...it came off as if it's because it's a black superman...because JJ Abrams is a dope director & with the right casting & good script...its gonna be a dope elseworld story. Optimism is my point you feel me?!?
@j.b.998 yes I feel you. I just don't want a crappy product. Do you want a crappy product? With bad production values? Even I know you wouldn't be happy with that. I don't think you want something that's half-ass done. That's what I think what really disappoints me I guess.
@michellewilson6249 facts but I trust JJ Abrams & I trust James Gunn & he wouldn't let a bad product push thru just to be politically correct. This is seen in all his films, visual effects Teams, & writing collaborations
@ no we really don’t. Miles morales is a totally different case. And he’s NOT Spider-Man. We never needed miles morales. He’s here but will NEVER be the real Spider-Man and never be close to as a popular. Nobody with any sense wants a black Clark Kent or black Bruce Wayne. People would NEVER accept black Peter Parker. You are a tiny minuscule portion of the fandom that wants this dogshit. Everybody else is sick to death of race swapping characters. A black Superman movie will bomb.
@comicbookcast2 if your making videos to make ends meet just be honest don’t be bs to your community almost all of your “scoops” have been fake or not even real make real content not this crap
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No way is this true. Only Gunns version.
Agreed. It's a total cheese fest
if it's going to be in the 1930 and about a Black Superman, just make an Icon movie. The character is right there!
Completely agree. They are probably just doing it for brand recognition
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I'm so thankful James Gunn is making a DC universe centered around superman
I agree, and it should be centered around him.
JJ Abrahams will never make that.
Val Zod
@@brandonclark8395 nobody cares lmao
@EricWilkinson You may not but many do. Speak for yourself.
I don't know he kind of screwed up Star Trek in some ways too. I don't think I would trust JJ Abrahams.
@@brandonclark8395nobody cares about that hand me down val zod, when icon exist.
If they’re can be different versions of Spider-Man and Batman, I believe they’re can be more versions of Superman, I’m cool with it.
Can I ask you a question? Are you paying paid by the studio? I'm just curious.
Without a doubt IMO, plus i reckon certainly Disney is paying him. He shills for both daily.
That would kill the DCU
It didn't fine in comics...why wouldn't it if done right here?
Or are you having a racism moment?
@@j.b.998 nobody cares about black Superman. They don’t care about the comics and they don’t care about this dogshit movie idea. The racism card is worthless now. Card declined. Cope harder
@j.b.998 Movies are not comics. The only way it would work on film would be an actual Crisis storyline which also had Kal-El Superman in it. A standalone Val-Zod story would get panned my the audience for being woke. Do you really want the DCU to go down the path of recent MCU and Star Wars films?
Did you just call me a racist?
@@Majestros No normal person will have a problem with a Val-Zod movie.
@ThanosDestroyeryearsago only the woke minority would be for for that movie. Go look at the reaction to Sam Wilson As Captain America. Most people see Steve Rogers as Cap,
Would have been nice to have seen a Superman 2 from Snyder.
Honestly? Snyder doesn’t understand the character.
Why not make an Icon movie instead?
Because nobody in Hollywood knows who any of the Black Superheroes are.
Why does he have to be Icon? Theirs literally Val-Zod in the comics.
@@SmoothLife. Because at least Icon is (slightly) more original, with a better costume, and is in the same universe as Superman (making things less complicated).
@@ldcg106 Spiderman has miles morales. It was done well. Superman can have Val-Zod dammit.
@@SmoothLife. Miles is overrated as hell (not bad, but not even nearly as good as his sychophants pretend he is).
Also, it's kind of sad to prefer a palette-swap knockoff over an original character.
Why not Val-Zod? 0_o
A supposed separate project
"Development" means thinking about it
Cool. Bro, why are you using ai art when val zod has tons of comic art to use?
What happened to the rumored Micheal B. Jordan Superman project?
I think that was the 1930’s sperman
I would pay all the money to see Micheal B Jordan as Supes!!! 😍
Sure it is. Just waiting for JJ Abrahams to get back from Gas Station and actually release a DC project.
He did. It is called Batman: Caped Crusader.
One of the worst entertainment contracts of all time.
@@OmarHudsonFunny when ever I hear about that project all I hear about is Bruce Timm working on.
@assassinsknight well Batman caped crusader came out this past fall and it was decent. I liked it. Yes it is woke in places, but Batman is still Batman.
@@OmarHudsonHeard about it. Decided not to watch it. Nothing against anyone who did.
You know how many iterations of Batman that take place in the 1940s?!?!? I say this is fine. Let some elseworld stories take place. Cuz the only elseworld stories people care about is THE BATMAN franchise. We could’ve had Joker have a franchise if the sequel was any good. Superman and Lois is over by the time the DCU even begun. So we can use some elseworlds.
We know. Because you make this same video every other month.
Yeah, I can see it working on Max honestly. A limited series (if it was gonna be a small period piece thing) would work, though I guess they’d have to restructure it as a TV show. I mean there’s no way folks would get confused and it’s more Superman content, so why not.
It’s in development but it’s probably not happening
Icon is there many black superheroes that are not from dc or marvel and they still want white charecters to be black when they have a lot of black charecters they don't even have static and theyre think of a black superman and yet val zod is there
They kept this crap but canceled Superman & Lois because there can only be one live action Superman
I’m sorry making Superman black doesn’t make him more interesting it just makes it annoying
A Man of Steel trilogy would have been really good back then. With Faora and Brainiac in the second film. And Lex Luthor and Metallo in the third film. But Warner had no idea what they were doing.🙄
I mean it’s going to be Val Zod not Kal el he’s an actual character in DC Comics he’s just another kryptonian I hope this happens
🤔Val Zod.🔥
I'm thinking about it..🙄
If the new Superman works then a potential for Elseworlds can happen, but we need our Superman Prime first.
They can do it. But only if it has a significant and meaningful plot point in context of the DCU. Like some Fiegi level brain work.
Well that is good news for me
Honestly, of all movies and deals WBD should cancel and do away with, it's the stuff with JJ Abrams. Dude hasn't done anything in years and he's had a deal with WB for how long, then it got renewed? Like, it should be canned.
so they do this but no cavill.....
I know. Hypocrites
Dude
..let it go...no more Snyder
We have moved on & its not coming back...but we definitely can use more elseworld stories in the multiverse...especially when they sold well in comics
Val Zod or Calvin Ellis
@j.b.998 Well consider Snyderverse an Elseworld's then
@@j.b.998 you can watch that. I’m good
But why?
😶How about ICON of Dc milestone an actual black superman-like hero who came to earth and took up a black slave. Try that?
That would mean someone would have to actually research this Character and read some Comicbooks.
Hollywood is too lazy for that.
Another race swap? 🥵
Except it's not. Earth 23 Superman is a totally different person..smh, casuals.
Jesus has been raced swapped for thousands of years....
Here’s why not. After the firing of Cavill and cancellation of the very popular SUPERMAN AND LOIS, all most reliable audiences (ie, fans) would likely see in a black Superman movie is an opportunity for Hollywood to once again preach its politics, especially if it’s written by Ta Nahisi Coates. The movie would likely be ratio’d into oblivion and all but destroy a lot of whatever goodwill Gunn’s DCU has because even as an Elseworlds project, everyone knows that only Gunn and Safran have the authority to allow it. And no, calling audiences idiots and bigots won’t help anything whether it’s true or not.
is this Gunns version.
No
Make him Calvin Ellis or Val-Zod and maybe we can talk
No its not, WB gave him 500 million to produce movies for DC for 5 years and that ends next year. In that time, he hasn't written any scripts for DC, just a crappy alternate universe Spider-man book for Marvel.
Jeff Scheider also confirmed that this and Constantine are dead just last week on the Hot Mic Podcast.
You'd be surprised on how minds can change. If a Black Superman film happens, why not welcome him?
He’s the reason they got rid of John Constantine in the Arrowverse
I would like to see two Earth-2 Realm’s supermen shown in a movie; That’s about a variant of KAL-EL, and about VAL-ZOD the supermen heroes.
I black and I 50/50 on this movie, that it the black superman going be woke or really a good movie, if the movie focus on superman being black I not watch it and if the movie going be about superman being hope then I would watch it cause there it a black superman in the comic and it focus more on him being a hero to the people but J.J Abrams got a bad track record, so I doubt this movie will be good
This is pointless. Why keep paying JJ in the first place.
There's already a black Superman. His name is Val-Zod. No need to recast Kal-El.
It should be a BLACK Superman Red Son. He should be what Paul Robeson (famous black American musician/athlete of the 1940s) was to the Soviets.
That would be a perfect ELSEWORLD film.
I just hope J.J. Abrams just receives Producer credit & doesn't actually have anything thing script wise & directing wise with the movie. I also want Ta-Nehisi Coates is removed as writer cause I don't want a Black Clark Kent or a racial period piece. Just make a Calvin Ellis/President Superman a DCU Original Elseworld. That way it can open the door to us seeing The Earth 23 Justice League which has all Black members & more importantly open up the door to The Justice Incarnate.
I'll agree if JJ Abrams make a elsworld Black superman but not in DCU.
Oh I like that now that's a good suggestion. Now that can work.
@michellewilson6249 u are right 👍 bro.
@@RaizelEtrama-t2t thank you. Don't you wish directors or movie execs with think of stuff like this?
@michellewilson6249 yup 💯.
@@RaizelEtrama-t2t you heard about the absolute Superman right?
Will release 2050
I love it.
Lmao bro I forgot about that shit… how mans got overlap?!
Ok we have Pattinson and the DCU Batman whoever it is but The DCU Superman should be the only one why have 2 supermen I honestly forgot JJ was still with WB DC to be honest
Pass
No it's not if it was James Gunn would say so
Just make a Blue Marvel movie 🎬
Just do an Icon movie with rocket
Yes please
Why? I feel like if this is made, it should be a new character. No one wants Superman, with the only difference being his skin colour. We should ceeate new stories rather than lazily reskin old ones while pretending that's reputation. I'm all for a black man with Superman level powers, and especially in the 1930s, as this has the potential to truly be a story of beauty and true justice. I'm not hating on the idea, I just feel like this needs to change way more than, oh, look, here's black Clark Kent, no other differences, just that. The reason Miles Morales works so well is because he's a completely new character with a completely new story, a well written and thought-out one as well. Miles Morales isn't a cheap cash grab disguised as representation. He isn't just black Peter Parker. I hope if this is made, they find a way to really justify not just creating a new character. Imagen if instead of creating Static Shock, they just made black Shazam for a comic run, everyone would forget and move on, but when they created a new character in Static Shock, it created a Black Icon in comics. And speaking of Icons, why not create an ICON film? ICON is just as powerful, if not just as powerful as Superman, and represents hope in the same way. There would be so much potential to help give us a permanent new black hero or help make other ones like ICON way more famous. I hope it works out, but it needs to be more than false representation for quick money.
Merry Christmas to those reading. ❤
Black Superman will flop
Why would it flop if it's a good story?
Agreed. Because Hollywood is really screwing up things here lately.
@@mrbrainchild7637Because it will fail like every other tokenized character. Black Panther worked because it was original.
No it's not
Who put a Gorilla in a Superman Costume?
what is this true.
Oh God no. Please. Don't ruin this property too.
Ruin it how?
@ nobody wants Superman to be black lol. Except black people with insecurities and crazy self hating white leftists. Stick to source material and it will be fine. Race swapping bullshit is a sure fire way to fail and lose hundreds of millions of dollars. DC isn’t your protest sign. Create your own shit
How there already a black Superman lol
Aww what’s wrong your frail white ego can’t accept a black Superman. Typical from people like you . Just like I bet a Black Captain America triggers you also 😂😂.
@@ltgaming1190Only people complaining are casuals. Not actual comic readers.
No thank you I don’t want a tokenised Superman! 🤷🏾♂️ give me Icon & Rocket instead!
Good coz James Gunn's Superman is gonna flop.
How the movie isn't even out yet
Wow. So many negative comments about a black Superman. What happened to the "Real DC Fans" lmao
Real fans gatekeep. Nobody with any sense wants this movie.
Why not make Superman a trans activist?
😨😨😨😨
Ah yes Cavill MoS 2 is no go but AU black Superman totally is. And no him being canon to comic doesn't make the situation better
So they cancel superman and loise but not this out all the things they choose to cancel but they dont cancel this unnecessary thing the people wb don't make no sense
Um no were good Gunns Superman is fine with me. There is only one elseworld superman story I might consider and that's MOS 2 with Cavill hopefully without snyder but if it isn't that we don't need a elseworld Superman right now.
Can’t wait
Oh please make it stop. Enough of the Superman reboots 😂
Oh Lord you are so right on this one. Can you imagine what Wonder woman's going to be like?
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Just let it die 😂. Will probably be shit anyway
Noooooooooooooooooo
WOKE!! 🤬🤬
How is it woke To have an elseworld story of Superman, WHO WONT EVEN BE CLARK KENT and take place in the 1930s?!?!?! Do you even know the definition of woke???? Tell me the definition right now you p***y! I dare you
No one wants this
Speak for yourself...these comics of black Superman were dope af
Not true 💯🔥👑💰 and dare I say it'll be better than Gunn's
Well it is comicbookcast, so take this with half a grain of salt lol…This guy just talks nonsense.
No, no it is not
Don't need this BS.
😮lmfaoooo
BS
It be way better than James Gunn trash superman film
Yeah.. no. Go away idot
No it's not
@ Bro it’s Christmas get a life 👍🏽
😑
African descent Superman
Not black.
No he's actually black and of American descent.
@mrbrainchild7637
What are you effin
Chalenged ?? American is a nationality
All these IGNORANT comments...reveal yall are truly ignorant & clearly dont follow comics...there DEFINITELY is more than one Black Superman in comics & yet....it didn't break anything (Calvin Ellis, Val Zod, etc..)
FYI...Marvel comics thought this about Spider-Man & yet Miles Morales is blowing up💪🏾💯👍🏾✊🏾
So just STOP with the bullshit racism...& just enjoy comic inspired stuff.
Yall sound crazy with this nonsense hating on something that already exists & went over fine with readers...me included
@@j.b.998 fuck off. Nobody considers miles morales Spider-Man or even close to the same popularity as Spider-Man. Nobody wants to see black Superman except black people with serious insecurity issues and retarded leftist white people. Nobody cares about Val Zod or Calvin Ellis. You losers need to make your own culture and characters. Stop stealing shit
I think everybody doesn't want a crappy project. That's why. Why should you invest your money in something that's going to be crap.
@michellewilson6249 that's more understandable...all of us fans want the new DCU to succeed but why thr overwhelming outrage of not even making the movie was my issue...it came off as if it's because it's a black superman...because JJ Abrams is a dope director & with the right casting & good script...its gonna be a dope elseworld story.
Optimism is my point you feel me?!?
@j.b.998 yes I feel you. I just don't want a crappy product. Do you want a crappy product? With bad production values? Even I know you wouldn't be happy with that. I don't think you want something that's half-ass done. That's what I think what really disappoints me I guess.
@michellewilson6249 facts but I trust JJ Abrams & I trust James Gunn & he wouldn't let a bad product push thru just to be politically correct.
This is seen in all his films, visual effects Teams, & writing collaborations
We need a black Superman
Watch Hancock
We really don’t lol.
Steel and Val-Zod
@@EricWilkinson-e3b uh yes. We do. Look how wildly popular Miles Morales was. He is essentially a Black Spiderman.
@ no we really don’t. Miles morales is a totally different case. And he’s NOT Spider-Man. We never needed miles morales. He’s here but will NEVER be the real Spider-Man and never be close to as a popular. Nobody with any sense wants a black Clark Kent or black Bruce Wayne. People would NEVER accept black Peter Parker. You are a tiny minuscule portion of the fandom that wants this dogshit. Everybody else is sick to death of race swapping characters. A black Superman movie will bomb.
@comicbookcast2 if your making videos to make ends meet just be honest don’t be bs to your community almost all of your “scoops” have been fake or not even real make real content not this crap