The Astrology of Music
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- A new approach to music and music therapy, via Vedic Astrology.
Vic's Website: vicdicara.com
You can get access to my readings there, as well as my books and classes on astrology and Vedic philosophy.
Just wanted to add .. In Indian culture there is a tradition of giving names to children based on a Birth Charts .. It uses the significations of planets and the sounds associated with them to get the most out of individuals .. The idea is, if an individual keeps hearing a particular sound vibration they are invoking the corresponding planet and its significations. Usually it is the Lagna Lord or Moon Raasi Lord as they are auspicious. Sun is represented by the vowels , Moon represents ya, ra, la va se sha .. , Mars Ka Kha Ga Gha na, Venus cha, cha jha, jha .. etc, Mercury ta tha dha .. etc, Jupiter ta tha da dha .. etc , saturn pa, pha bha .. Primary focus is on sound vibration.
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thank you for your encouragement.
All the very best to you. Certainly groundbreaking 🎉
As a student of Composition and Astrology, this was a wonderful Masterclass 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
music has been here since the beginning🙏🏾❤️🔥 🪘
WOW not a coincidence at all that you're moving in this direction....awesome! I've watched your face light up like a Christmas tree over the years but this is on another level!
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Yes this was nothing at all like the last parents live - you were were GLOWING and so happy Vic!!
Vic! As a musician who has been using his knowledge of astrology and spirituality as a whole, as a guide to release music and create concept albums for the past four years, THANK YOU for this video! I've ever clicked so fast on a video.
Amazing...I was thinking about This in the morning while hiking..And now this video.. Goosebumps
Vedic astrology and it's correlation with applied music theory. The two loves of my life in one subject!! Thank you Vic, I can't wait to play and consciously think about these connections and what resonates with me.
🎶 _Erin and Aries sitting in a tree. First comes fear, then comes worry, next comes the 4th tone played in music theory!_ 🎶
Need more videos like this! Made me think!
This has me thinking about making music in all kinds of different ways! So freaking cool!!! I think of each note based on their zodiac sign association & it makes me think of the way each sign interacts & feels each other
i would love to hear what you play. i am preparing to start trying the same
Great good luck to you guru
vic this is amazing!!!! knowledge is truly infinite. my brain feels like it’s been cracked open!
That auricular difference between the gemini and the Virgo dissonant really allows knowledge to sink in, thank you for adding it,
The "devil's note" used without scarcity by Bach also reflects the deep nature of Scorpio making it all make sense.
The geometry of it is baffling, as per everything falls into an order, and there's nothing left to chance. Thank you so much for the lesson, we'll take it.
oooo that is interesting! it would be fun to look at various composers chart and compare them with the intervals they seemed to enjoy using the most. Someone noted that the hardcore punk music I wrote really extensively used 4#. My moon is in Scorpio navamsha, and also my 8th house is the focal point of the chart (I wonder if it would be reliable to correlate that)
@@VicDiCaraAstrology That's a great idea! I'll pull up some data and look a bit closer at those composers, you Sir, just gave me a great assignment :D Also, it doesn't take an astrology genius to know you're heavily 8th house rulled. I would suggest that you're one of what I call the spooky boy's clan (heavy cap and scorpio placements) but it's just a hunch 🤷 thank you for responding, really appreciate it.
Yes!!!
VIC! Thank you so much for this video! I've been wanting to combine my knowledge of sound healing & music therapy with my passion for Vedic astrology, but I had no idea what sources to look for. This is so perfectly timed.
Thank you ❤
Music connects. No doubt.
Would be waiting for your tool. Wish you all the pleasant, harmonious best for it :)
🕺💃 Yes, what beauty! Please keep moving here with everything you see, hear, feel about the mathematical mysticism of sound. Thanks for this, as it's wonderful and reminds me of the thrill of flying dreams. The phenomenal sensings of freedom, dissonance, harmony, clairaudience, altogether transmigrating any bonds of time and space.
I'm very excited by this 👂💕
I watched it again, very very interesting. So cool that you are bringing this.
Yup.
❤ I love this!! I’ve been playing with tones recently!!! I have ideas!!! But I haven’t finished the video…. lol I’ll comment again hahah😅
This is an exciting concept, can't wait to see what you do with it
youre really amazing Vic!
Vic DiCara is the Vedic Gandalf
This is fantastic research
this is brilliant and beautifully timed!
i've been internally inquiring around the idea of using the overlays of the astrological wheel and the musical intervals as sound therapy for years but have struggled as someone who is primarily a vocalist (who was able to intuitively grasp music theory through practice when i was immersed in it) to digest any western musical theory enough to actually be able to take action on it. and i've spent a lot of time wondering how it would work-i've contemplated how one would go about assigning tones to different planets and if the key signiture would change depending on a planet that would determine it (or the rising sign...all just contemplations i've been mulling over without the skill to explore them and not knowing where to start).
it's such a relief to have a brief and powerful lesson into vedic music and feel the aliveness that is honored in the understanding of the scale as relational rather than static. that's something i lean into inner inquiry about often and feel resistance to, the idea tones are static. it's exciting to learn that you can even look up vedic music based on tonal relationships!
i didn't realize how much i was overcomplicating the matter. referring back to sa and contextualizing the medicinal tone in that as a tonal titration is what i've been internally sensing is possible and powerful medicine but not knowing how to go about assigning anything.
with a few more times with this video, this practice is something i'm going to be able to integrate into client work so quickly. thank you for distilling this and sharing this integration of your skills and interests! rich, rich teaching.
Beautiful! Thank you, looking forward to more of The Astrologie of Music .
🪈 🪈🪈 stay in tune!
This blew my mind, I always knew that music and astrology were related but I could never quite crack it. Your description of the connection between musical intervals and the signs really clicked, 100% accurate. Thanks for sharing this knowledge. This might be my favorite video on youtube ngl
Libra 7 😍
Music is one of the 4 Vedas
very nice point. Sāmaveda. Also it is one of the four most essential sciences: music, architecture, medicine, warfare.
Brilliant and good luck with this, can't wait to see where you take this, just Brilliant~!
Wow thank you, I NEEDED THIS and I didn't know I needed it this bad until it has been recieved! I play indian classical instruments but I was feeling a sense of something missing, this is IT! THANK YOU SO MUCH
Thanks a lot Vic 🙏 🙇♀️💜
This is brilliant and inspiring!
Good luck with your project 🍀
Looking forward to applying it!
By the way, while studying Indian vocal I noticed that Sa and Pa are easiest note to thing correctly and continuously 😊
Love love love!
Vic, you're always on another level, as someone who loves nakshatras and practicing guitar, I'm loving this ❤
Wow i adored this subject ❤️❤️
very cool vic!! thanks!!
LEGEND!! This is so amazing, thank you.
Hell yeah!!!
Wonderful !!! Only you could have done this .. Your are specially empowered by the Lord to offer this kind of service .. May Lord Krishna bless you and your endeavor !
my brain cells are dancing in excitement 😍😍 this-is-mindblowing!!! ❤
🙏🏾❤️🔥🪕 amazing!
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Pluto in Aquarius (cool emoji)
This is very cool as someone who has been into astrology for few years and started with learning music few months ago might try to make my next music project keeping this in mind. Thank you so much 🫶🏼
Soooo excited for this
Would be intersting to see a deeper astrological analysis of western classical music and symphonies according to the various tones you layed out, to give further jnsight on why some are considered healing, help studies, why they reduce crime when played, etc. Etc would be a great video series!!
try using this model and let us know!
Marsilio Ficino, in the 15th century, did work on the topic of astrology and music therapy from the Western perspective.
I would suggest reading the 1992 PhD dissertation of Angela Voss entitled "Magic, Astrology and Music; the astrological music therapy of Marsilio Ficino and his role as Renaissance Magus".
Thank you for this information!
Thank you 🙏 beautiful soul! Looking 👀 forward to viewing your awesome upcoming performance along with learning more from you. 😂 Makes so much sense 👍. My son, Scorpio 🌞 Aquarius 🌙 Gemini ⬆️, writes and sings rock music 🎶 that would be considered a spin on grunge genre with a heavy focus on social justice ⚖️ issues. The more I learn about astrology I'm becoming more and more convinced that Astrology IS THE parenting manual that many people say children aren't born with yet wish they were 😂. Certainly explains why I'm drawn to the various types of music and tones that I'm drawn to as well as a Cancer 🌞 Aquarius 🌙 Libra ⬆️ along with fully supporting my sons work, especially enjoying their pieces in regards to social justice and lifting humanity despite not necessarily caring for the screaming components in their music due to sending my central nervous system into orbit 😂 yet can appreciatewhy it appeals to others 👍.
I'm incredibly interested to see 👀 what you do with all of this beautiful soul. Again, sharing this series with my son in case he may be interested in utilizing some of these concepts and tones albeit I'm sure with a western twist.
I pray 🙏 that ☮️❤️😁 and other highest forms of abundance fills and surrounds you, your loved ❤ ones and all the beautiful souls you aide along their journeys 🙌. ✨️ 🙏😇
Cool!!
Thank you Vic
Wow, this is amazing. I've always had this curiosity as someone who kinda connected the dots. Just not sure where! Great vid.
I'M IN ECSTASY OVER THIS VIDEO
fascinating
I dont agree with your western vedic approach however this is gold!
your work is very cool
This is was an absolute masterpiece... not only did you link the sounds to the heavenly bodies, but in the end you joined them all to show that this is also geometry/visual. Please could you do more videos on Vedic music system? Whether or not connected to astrology. It would be incredible!!
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This is the greatest video you have ever made and my favroite !!! Brilliant work you should teach music more often!!
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@@VicDiCaraAstrology being a musician and astrologer myself I would love to jam with you and listen to your music btw !
Sun & moon are always in direct motion...that's why Sa nd Pa don't have "bikrit Swar"....and we call Sa as "Soroj"......
Rishabh,Gandhar,Dhaibat, Nishad have their "bikrito Swar" just before the exact note but only the Madhyam...Mangal/Mars has "bikrito Swar" just next to the exact note...
And the 7+5 =12 Swar have effects on our 12 chakras/energy centres....nd the Chakras have connection with our astrological houses as well as the planets....
I’m in seriously - I’ve been asking universe for a year how can I incorporate music in all the work I’m about to launch - BOOM! Maybe it was Pluto moving in Aquarius coincidence whatever thank you 🙏🏻 🎉 and no joke I’m a Pisces rising, when you hit that 6th flat note I instantly said to myself - “what the heck was that?” Lmao ❤❤❤
Thats awesome!
vic!!! loved this and I was getting to some conclusions... on my own ragas elections to meditate and to the tone that I pick up to sustain my Sikhs prayers... awesome! if you need somebody able to do some experiments count on me!
interesting thank you 🤗🙏
Saturn sign is earth and also rules Shravana nakshastra, ears to hear. Thanks for this lovely angle on music and astrology 🎶 🎵
i agree, just as saturn is a really fascinating ruler for a feminine earth sign, the flattened 2nd (komal ṛṣabha) is a really fascinating tone. It is sooooo dissonant and rude that it attains a class of beauty and dignity all its own.
@@VicDiCaraAstrology No doubt. Being the husband of Venus , Saturn has to be in polarity.
@@VicDiCaraAstrology Music ability has Venus traits the origin seems more in Moon and Soma energy. As a palmist if someone has a fat moon mount thier palm actually resembles a guitar 🎸 and inevitably they have music ability. Thanks for the correspondence dear Brother. 💌💌
Thanks so much Prabhu! I am not very knowledgeable about the Vedic music style. Is it just temperament based? If so, what is the reference pitch? Can we use Cymatics to further refine the specific frequencies we use in this kind of music? Thank you for the video and for your time! All the best! Jay Sri Hari! 🙏🏼🪷
THIS IS FUCKING DOPE! 👑💎
Next we need ritm connected to planets and signs. We will make music of Golden Era
indeed
how would you support a struggling sun using this system?
excellent question from a practical mind! thank you. play / listen to rāgas with ṣaḍja vādi - for example Vasant, Manda, Nanda, Tiloka-kamoda. These rāgas will present the musical symbolism of Sa (Sun) being in harmony with everything else.
@@VicDiCaraAstrology i will check that out, thanks! that was my intuitive sense but i wouldn't have known how to find it in rāgas.
What about the Nakshatras?
It would have to be at least two notes because the particular tone would be relative to the root. So what key then?
I am not sure if I understand your question correctly, but I would say in Vedic music, the key is whatever suits the performer. It is the intervals, not the pitch, that we care about. So I would probably ask the patient to sing a natural pitch, and consider that to be "sa" (root)
Interstellar has entered the chat😭
Sir can you explain about ayanmsha
how bout the hertz... that can be refined i guess. looking forward to it.
that is where western theory went, into hertz measurements.
Sir can you explain about 30 nakshathras.
i dont know anything about it
Thank you sir.
I have seen so many astrology lessons in UA-cam.
I'm really happy to say your lessons very high.
I got so many knowledge that I haven't heard before.
Very scientific 🎉
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hi Vic, I send you an email asking for a new link for my birthchart since the last download expired...
please check your mail, i already sent you a new copy
I love this.
Are you familiar with the Western theories of temperament? Especially 12-tome equal temperament and the distinction between that and Just Intonation?
I have mostly understood the swaras using the Western concept of ratios, e.g. sa is 1/1, pancham 3/2, madhyam 4/3, etc.
A man named dr vidyadhar oke has explained the 22 srutis with reference to this. Basically, except sa and pa, each swara has a version based only on the prime number 3, and one based only on either just the prime 5, or a combination of 3 and 5.
Also, concerning shadja: monier-williams says it means born of 6 (organs of the vocal tract), which makes sense by analogy with, for example, atmaja-born of self. At the same time, saying that it gives birth to the other six shuddha notes makes sense...I'm just curious about it from a linguistic perspective.
Also, a thought about how to use this. Teach the person how to sing the note. Have them download a tanpura app, and they can sing the note with the tanpura as a meditation.
I am not well studied about this, but it seems to me that both just and equal are mathematically based, inspired by Pythagorean theory. Bharata came at it from a completely different perspective. He didn't come with a calculator, he came with his glorious ears and heart. I think when you take a ruler to what he came up with it will make sense, mathematically (as Oke explained). I am not sure if Monier's explanation is acceptable. Are the tones sa and ri so far apart that they require different physical components? It is rather because sa produces and is defined by the other six notes, that it is called ṣaḍja. Finally, your idea about having a person sing IS VERY VERY GOOD.
There has been A LOT of speculation in regards to the tuning of the shruti. Sadly Bharat assumes the reader knows them already, for example, he describes tuning the string tuned to Pa on his harp (the instrument called a "vina" during his time was a harp, not the lute instrument that carries the name today) down by one shruti. This has led to many attempts at trying to "reverse engineer" them.
That all being said, there is consensus for shudah Pa being 3:2 and one of the Ma's being 4:3. Beyond that is where things get dicey. Some hold that it's purely a 3-limit JI (just intonation), others that it's a 5-limit JI, etc. There are even some who hold that his system was actually a 22TET (equal temperament) - an opinion I reject for various reasons.
Let me know if you're interested (and how deep this rabbit hole you want to go down) and I can suggest some academic books/articles on the topic.
@@VicDiCaraAstrology yes I think the ruler analogy is good. I studied viola when younger but could never play "in tune" because my ears can't make sense of 12tet, so learning about just intonation was life changing. In the west, Indian music is usually described as being in JI, indicated by ratios, that being the ruler. I would love to learn singing with a tanpura, e.g., dhrupad, and experience the Indian perspective of sound. I forgot the bit about Pythagoras: he liked the number 3 so he based a tuning system on the number 3, not on sound...and I suppose that has messed with us all down the line, privileging numbers over sound.
@VicDiCaraAstrology Question: I asked this a few months ago in a Q&A, but since you have been diving deeper into the topic of music I feel it is appropriate to ask again - especially since I can ask it differently......
Is there anything astrological significant with the number 22?
As you pointed out in this video the seven svaras can correspond to the seven planets, the twelve "chromatic notes" with the twelve zodiac signs.
So what astrologically can correspond with the 22 shruti?
AFAIK, no, there is nothing - therefore some students of bharata muni become uncomfortable with the concept and try to adjust it to 24. AFAIK It is simply that he heard 22 identifiable tones between any octave.
@@VicDiCaraAstrology Thanks for the reply. Part of my research is trying to find out why the number 22 was selected. Since some attribute there being 7 "main" pitches due to there being 7 planets, and some like to link the 12 "chromatic" pitches to the 12 zodiac signs; I was wondering if there was such a thing for the 22 shruti and something astrological.
In Western music there's a system of 19-tones per octave, and of course there are 19 divisions in the metonic lunar cycle (whose partitioning , interestingly, is lined up with a diatonic scale).
Even though your expertise is in Vedic Astrology, I'm sure you know quite a bit about Hellenistic as well. Do you know of anything the Hellenistic system that might offer some clues?
I dont think the "number was selected." That is a pythagorean way of looking at this. Phythagoras assumed that numbers were at the root of reality. Bharata did not. In Vedic thinking, numbers can DESCRIBE reality, but they are not at the root of it (brahman - consciousness - is at the root of it). Bharata didnt select 22 or even care that the number was 22. He just *listened.* Listening, he noticed 22 distinct pitches. If we ask "why" we will probably figure something out about the physical limitations of the human ear.
I found some information about this in a book called "Science of Melody" - and that author is directly referencing some text, I am not exactly clear what - the devanagari typesetting is terrible and I am a little lazy. But he says 22 nadi cross the ida/pingala nadya, and this is a basis for humans being able to distinguish 22 sounds in an octave. He also said some other things that are interesting, correlatting "4,3,2,4,4,3,2" to several other things and making it all link. Link most English books written by Indians in India, the presentation is in extreme need of a very very thorough editing, and very difficult to access, but the content is superb. "Science of Melody" is the title. The section begans about halfway through the book ("Section 2: Nada, Sruti, Svara")
@@VicDiCaraAstrology Sorry for the delay - been dealing with health issues.
I purchased the book you mentioned, "Science of Melody". Skimmed through it a bit, and was disappointing that they do not provide any citations - like when they mention in the beginning about a report from NASA..... completely failed to provide the source.
I'll be sure to message you after I get the chance to actually read through the book - but with all the other works (with proper citations) I already have on my "to-read" list - I will be frank and tell you that its towards the bottom.
You said you deviated from the 2nd being in Aquarius and instead you put it in Capricorn. But since the flat 2nd is so disharmonious, wouldn't it be better to assign that to the sign opposite Leo - Capricorn, and put the 2nd in Aquarius? Where did the Indian guy you like out the flat 2nd?
i put all the shuddha svara on the first placements. Opposite from Leo is aquarius, this suddha-ri (pure second). The modified second (flat) is on the other saturn-owned sign, Capricorn. Vasumtira Ji put it the other way around, he puts flat 2nd in aquarius and pure 2nd in capricorn.
@@VicDiCaraAstrology Ok. It's makes sense that whatever most contrasts with Leo should go in Aquarius. After the #4, the b2 is the most dissoant note in relation to the first. The 2nd can stand on its own, but the b2 wants to resolve to the one.
Also I’ve heard from someone that there are specific ancient instruments that relate to all the nadis in human body i guess rudra veena if you have any information about that would really love to know more.
there is an esoteric idea out there that a fretboard has analogy to the spinal column. I have not explored it and so dont have an opinion on it. some say it is particularly the vina, and particularly the rudra vina fretboard. what i DO know for sure is that the musical "intrument" merges with the body "instruments" (aka indriyā, aka "senses") so that it becomes a natural part of the musicians body. Unless that happens the musician is very poor in the art.
I'm curious where do Rahu and Ketu fit in the musical scale. Since they are not physical grahas, maybe R and K are the modes/ragas which capture the mood of actual notes?! Or are they the microtonal notes in between the whole/half notes?!
For a few centuries, people have been trying to stick Rāhu and Ketu everywhere and anywhere. Instead, they just dont belong sometimes. However, in musical theory, Rāhu is the *arohana* (ascending progression) of the rāga, and Ketu is the *avarohana* (descending progression). Also, we can feel Rāhu and Ketu in the *dynamics* of the music. Crescendos express Rāhu, Decrescendos express Ketu. Also stacatto wil bring out the presence of nodes. Also rāgas that have fewer notes and longer gaps between the notes accenturate nodes.
I had an image of piano peddles reading this I love this nodes so important I see as the environment journey
@@VicDiCaraAstrology I understand, Vic. That's deeply insightful and makes perfect sense. The dynamics, and ascending and descending progressions. This has been a beautiful discussion. I am desperately hoping you'd bring out more videos in Vedic Astrology+Music Therapy series.
so we can play out a birth chart, and some may sound quite horrible... 😮
indeed!
Maybe you didn't get the chance to read all my comments before you deleted your original video (correcting the svaras), the shruti partitioning is still incorrect - at least from the system of Bharat.
The Natyasastra states that from Sa to Re is 3, Re to Ga is 2, Ga to Ma is 4, Ma to Pa is 4, Pa to Dha is 3, Dha to Ni is 2, Ni to Sa is 4.
This makes his Ga equivalent to the modern komal Ga, and his Ni equivalent to the modern komal Ni.
Of course there is nothing wrong with using the modern system, but how you presented it makes it sound like you are stating it's Bharat's system.
on what basis are you stating this? I do not find support for it in this sloka (maybe you have another reference?):
चतुश्चतुश्चतुश्चैव षड्जमध्यमपञ्चमाः द्वे द्वे निषादगान्धारौ त्रिस्त्री ऋषभधैवतौ
catuś catuś catuś caiva
ṣaḍja madhyama pañcamāḥ
dve dve niṣāda gāndhārau
tris trī ṛṣabha dhaivatau
to get the meaning you suggest, one would need the fifth declension case, "ablative". Nothing in this statement is in ablative, it is all nominative.
@@VicDiCaraAstrology So the following is from the 28th chapter.
The text states in 28:24 "In the Sadja grama there are three sruti-s in the Rsabha, two in the Gandhara, four in the Madhyama, four in the Pancama, three in the Dhaivata, two in the Nisada, and four in the Sadja."
(28:25 reports the same info, just starting from going to Sa)
How this is understood is that going from Sa to Re there are 3, from Re to Ga is 2, from Ga to Ma is 4, from Ma to Pa is 4, from Pa to Dha is 3, from Dha to Ni is 2, and from Ni to Sa is 4.
You might be thinking "when it says Re has 3 shruti it means from Re to Ga is 3."
Well you have to look at the other passages where it goes into detail about the distances.....
This is clarified by looking at an earlier passage (in the same chapter)
"Now, Vivadi is where the svara-s are tweny sruti-s apart. For examle, Rsabha and Gandhara, Dhaivata and Nisada."
So for there to be 20 (2) shrutis between Dha and Ni, there needs to be 4 shrutis between Ni and Sa; and for there to be 20 (2) shrutis between Re and Ga, there needs to be 4 shrutis between Ga and Ma.
This is further clairifed later in the text it talks about modifying the Sadja grama into the Madhyama grama by tuning the Pa down by 1 shruti. Where it states "In the Madhyama grama Pancama should be made deficient in one sruti."
It states later that the result of tuning Pa down 1 shruti is "Madhyama consists of four sruti-s, Pancama three, Dhaivata four...."
Notice by lowering Pa the measurement of Ma did NOT get smaller, but instead the measurement of Pa got smaller and the measurement of Dha got larger.
So the measurements being given are the "distance to get to the svara named from its lower neighbor", the "distance from the svara named to get its upper neighbor".
I hope how I explained this in a UA-cam comment makes sense.
Who taught you this? It does not seem correct. As I explained regarding 28.25, it simply, literally, gramatically, *does not say* "from this to that is N śruti" It explicitly says "N śruti are in A, B, C".
24 looks like a sutra version of 25.
28, however is interesting, because it presents an alternative system. Maybe this is what you are thinking of?
The complete idea in 24-28 seems to be this:
- There are two systems for tuning
- The main system is called "Sa-based"
- The alternative sytem is called "Ma-based"
The sa-based system is as I explained in the video. The ma-based system is modified so that "Madhyama consists of four Śrutis. Pañcama three, Dhaivata four, Niṣāda two, Ṣaḍja four, Ṛṣabha three and Gāndhāra two Śrutis"
@@VicDiCaraAstrology So I guess you are going to ignore the fact that the way you are interpreting the partitioning causes the other information he gives (such as "Now, Vivadi is where the svara-s are twenty sruti-s apart. For example, Rsabha and Gandhara, Dhaivata and Nisada") make no sense, as the maths would no longer lines up.
For example, how you are wanting to read it there would be 18 (4) srutis separating the svaras mentioned.
"Who taught you this?" This is how it is understood by the musicologists who have study and taught on the topic:
Daielou, Alain "Northern Indian Music Vol 1", page 44 "To the seven main notes were added, in ancient music, two accessory notes dividing the major tones Ni, Sa (modern Ni k., Sa; Bb, C) and Ga, Ma (modern Ga k., Ma; Eb F) into two half-tones."
Strangways, A.H. Fox "Music of Hindostan", page 109 "Again he [Bharat] speaks of Sa (one of the svaras) as 'of' four srutis, meaning the interval from the note N to the note S."
Meer, Wim van der "The Construction, Reconstruction, and Deconstruction of Shruti", page 675 (from a chart) "Sa 3 Re 2 Ga 4 Ma 4 Pa 3 Dha 2 Ni 4 Sa"
Levy, Mark "Intonation in North Indian Music" page 7 "The consensus among the majority of scholars, however, such as Bake, Jairazbhoy, Deva, Powers, Clements, Danielou, and Sachs, is that Bharata's svaras are pitches, and that the given number of srutis lie immediately below the svara in question."
Besides all these modern scholars, you have the text of Dattilam (which many date to either slightly before or slightly after Bharat) expresses it in even clearer terms.
Dattilam, page 5 (from the Kalamulasastra Series, translation by Lath) "In the sadja grama, rsabha is the third higher sruti beginning with the sound accepted as the sadja. This is byond doubt. From rsabha, the second higher sruti is gandhara, and from gandhara the fourth is madhyama.......From dhaivata, nisada is higher by two srutis and from there the fourth is again the sadja."
And just as an aside (for what it is worth), since you asked me "who taught you this": I am fortunate to personally know both Meer and Levy, and have had many conversations with them where the point came up in regards to the ancient Saregama having a flat-3 and a flat-7 for its base. This is just something that is basically common knowledge for those in the field.
Your voice sounds insanely similar to Ethan Hawke's voice! In case you didn't know this! 😄
I realize that's a weird thing to say. 👋🤷😂😂
/*o*\ where my korg at!?
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I'm not surprised Libra note is your favorite, and no wonder libras are excellent in music especially hasta ❤
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Check this music played by a Libra man, and lemme tell ya, first time I heard him play I knew he was a Libra ♎ and I went there told him, hey are you a Libra? He said...how do you know? I said "eyy only Libra can tap into these melodies 😂 believe me when I say i can spot libras through the melodies they play, uuuu it's a melody you can't help but fall 🍂 my ketu is in Libra in 12th house and has significant aspects from my moon and sun Incase that has something to do with it, everytime I hear a Libra play music I experience a serious meltdown 🫠 lemme know if you like the classic and I'll share another melody from another hasta moon man.
I would say having Jupiter dominate my chart from Libra disposes me to this note. Since Jupiter governs sounds. I am not sure if that is the best explanation, but its my instinct to say it.