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  • @johnbowyer6902
    @johnbowyer6902 Рік тому +33

    How ironic, in this day and age, that an environmentally friendly means of mass transit was taken out of service to make way to polluting diesel buses. Now, these trolley buses are more relevant today than ever. It is a shame they only have a small area to operate in. I traveled on trolley buses in Belfast, Northern Ireland, in the late 60s.

  • @WAL_DC-6B
    @WAL_DC-6B 8 місяців тому

    Forget Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle, the Tower of London. All that "royal" stuff! If I'm going to take a trip to the U.K., this trolleybus museum is what I'd visit first (It broke my heart as a teenager when Chicago discontinued commercial use of electric trolleybuses on March 31, 1973). Thanks for sharing!

  • @johnledingham852
    @johnledingham852 Рік тому +8

    I came to Brisbane, Queensland as lad of 11 years. My father was transferred from NSW with his job. I loved the trolley bus rides from
    the city centre to our new home in East Brisbane. They were so smooth to ride in, and very silent. Going to and from school I rode trams
    which were another discovery for a country boy. They were exciting and noisy. So the smooth and silent trolley bus rides were were
    something I'd look forward to whenever the occasion arose.

  • @trevordance5181
    @trevordance5181 Рік тому +1

    I can just about remember travelling on London Trolleybuses as a small boy to visit an aunt who lived in Earlsfield. It was the 630 that ran from West Croydon to Harlesdon.

  • @douglasmacari8707
    @douglasmacari8707 Рік тому +6

    I used to love riding on these in Brighton as a child; so clean, smooth and quiet.

    • @brianwood9913
      @brianwood9913 Рік тому

      Yes, always preferred a trolley to go up Ditchling Road where the diesels struggled on the steep bit. Lived in Florence Road for a while in the late 50's.

  • @johnbristow8099
    @johnbristow8099 11 місяців тому

    Great video. Lovely to hear the sound of the overhead wiring.

  • @SuperBarnaby12
    @SuperBarnaby12 Рік тому +6

    I loved this video. It took me back to when was a child 60 years ago and travelled on Wolverhampton trolley buses out to Tettenhall. Every so often the pantographs would come off the wires with a loud bang. We loved that happening. I now live in New Zealand. Such happy memories. Thank you and hats off to all you wonderful people.

    • @flybobbie1449
      @flybobbie1449 Рік тому +3

      I remember Green Lane Walsall, bus stopped and conductor got the long pole out to reattach. I wonder if term conductor has anything to due with "recontacting" arms to wires.

  • @gord307
    @gord307 Рік тому +9

    Excellent video, very well put together and very informative.
    I had a ride on the Black Country Living Museum's Trolleybus some years ago - what a fantastic vehicle, I remember the young driver being very keen to show off the startling acceleration!
    I know that they say "hindsight is a wonderful thing", but the UK government and councils have a lot to answer for, for the astonishing damage they did to our public transport infrastructure in the 50 and 60s. The scrapping of the tram and trolleybus was, of course, followed by appalling air quality and smog that has, potentially, killed thousands.
    Growing up in the 80s a few miles from Coventry, trips into the city used to make me feel ill because of the bus fumes; and yet, today, little has changed. Whilst we are expected to all go out and buy electric cars with their environment destroying batteries, to replace the diesel cars people were encouraged, by the government, to buy, the diesel bus still reigns supreme. How difficult would it be to reinstate the clean, efficient and reliable trolleybus in our cities?

    • @gord307
      @gord307 Рік тому +1

      ​@@conradharcourt8263 Thank you for your comment.
      The environmental impact of Li-ion battery production is well known and it is easy to find information about this. The life cycle of the batteries is also relatively short, and, at present, recycling of these batteries is almost non existent. Add to this the potentially dangerous and unstable nature of the batteries, which is also well documented.
      You could also include energy ‘waste’, as it takes more energy to charge a battery than you get out of a battery, and also the energy loss as a battery loses charge over time.
      On the other hand, most of the materials used in catenary are abundant and easy to extract and refine, and, importantly, easy to recycle. I understand the lifespan of the contact wire to be several decades?
      It would also be a relatively simple affair to combine the overhead lines with other street furniture, such as lighting and buildings.
      Please note that I am suggesting the maximum benefit of such a system to be urban, where pollution and road congestion is a great liability.
      I would suggest the implementation of an electric bus system powered by overhead lines would have great environmental benefits, both locally and globally, with very few drawbacks.

    • @ricktownend9144
      @ricktownend9144 Рік тому +2

      Though noting your exchange of views below re batteries, I tend to agree that it's a shame there is no trolleybus system remaining in the UK (except for museums). Maybe it would need several such systems to make the supply industry economic, while for battery buses that seems to be happening already (though maybe at a risk of making everyone dependent on supplies from abroad?). However, it is interesting that railways seem to have decided that overhead wires are the way forward except for the odd branch or so, where batteries will be used.

    • @kristinajendesen7111
      @kristinajendesen7111 Рік тому +1

      Those rear engine bus fumes were awful. Going into Cov city centre in the early 60s & 70s was better on the rear platform Daimler CVG-6s. That said, upstairs was invariably smoke filled.

    • @gord307
      @gord307 Рік тому +1

      @@kristinajendesen7111 60s is a little before my time 😀, but I remember the smoke filled busses well, from the late 70s and 80s. Smoking upstairs on the Corporation double-decker bus, smoking at the back of the single-deck Midland Reds (as if the smoke would actually stay at the back 🤢). Happy days!

  • @radarplotextractor3168
    @radarplotextractor3168 Рік тому +5

    In the Canadian city where I grew up, we had trolley busses and on very cold days where the temp was colder than -30C and very low humidity the trolleys would be arcing and sparklers would be coming down from the overhead wires as they passed by. I would always stop and watch as I walked to school.

  • @obus7800
    @obus7800 Рік тому +6

    I worked as a trolleybus operator for nearly a decade and a half. They weren't retired until 1994. I still have a headsign to remind me of better days. Ours were replaced by diesel and natural gas buses...both more costly to operate and maintain. I'm surprised by the manual switches...ours were all selectric or power. I particularly liked the E800's...very warm in bitter winters.

    • @Telecolor-in3cl
      @Telecolor-in3cl Рік тому

      In what city you worked as a operator?

    • @obus7800
      @obus7800 Рік тому

      @@Telecolor-in3cl Hamilton, Ontario...both Toronto and Hamilton had trolleybus systems. In Hamilton, all the overhead was upgraded in the 1990s and then scrapped. Only Hamilton had the newer E800 trolleys from Flyer...one of which had high performance shoes and brakes before the decision was taken to scrap the service.

    • @Telecolor-in3cl
      @Telecolor-in3cl Рік тому

      @@obus7800 Why did they scraped it?

    • @obus7800
      @obus7800 Рік тому +1

      @@Telecolor-in3cl the Ministry of Transportation (provincial govt) wanted to promote alternative fuels...first a failed demonstration with propane in Ottawa then natural gas in Hamilton. If the trolleys were scrapped in both cities it would provide an opportunity to sell a large number of CNG buses to both cities from the govt's preferred supplier. Both cities were effectively "Blackmailed" into accepting poor performing CNG buses. Search an article, Dewired, for the full story.

  • @philipholt6184
    @philipholt6184 Рік тому +4

    Great video great place will be returning there soon!

  • @flybobbie1449
    @flybobbie1449 Рік тому +3

    I remember as a kid travelling on Walsall corp. trolley buses. Should bring them back.

    • @flybobbie1449
      @flybobbie1449 Рік тому +1

      There is quite a bit of amateur video on YT.

  • @TonyBanks21
    @TonyBanks21 Рік тому +3

    What a beautiful video-loved looking at all those restored trolleybuses in operation,how they’re driven,and maintained !!

  • @stevewright4576
    @stevewright4576 Рік тому +3

    I'm Canadian and
    loved this video!

  • @ianmarshall170
    @ianmarshall170 Рік тому +2

    I took my son & nephew here when they were about 4 & 5 years old they loved it especially the mock up cabs where they went mad on the steering wheel.

  • @waynecheshire7878
    @waynecheshire7878 Рік тому

    Absolutely wonder I’m going be taking my elderly friend there who used to be a conductor on a trolley bus thank you 🚎

  • @SteveBernard42
    @SteveBernard42 11 місяців тому

    I was on that last Bradford trolley bus as a teenager, a sad day indeed for public transport in the city.

  • @bertiewooster3326
    @bertiewooster3326 Рік тому +2

    Used ride the trollies in Grangetown near Middlesbrough great ! Cheap green safe!

  • @captaindave47
    @captaindave47 Рік тому +4

    I remember well the Huddersfield and Bradford trolley buses.
    I went on them regularly.
    They should never have been stopped. They were so environment friendly, but no one bothered much back in the 60s. They were better times than now.

  • @RGC198
    @RGC198 Рік тому +1

    Wow!! Double deck trolleybuses. I haven't ridden a double deck trolleybus since the late 1950's, when they ran in Sydney NSW Australia. I have ridden single deck trolley buses in later years during the 1970's, while holidaying in New Zealand. New Zealand's last trolleybus system operated in Wellington, which finally closed in October 2017. Anyway, thanks for sharing.

    • @paulwarner5395
      @paulwarner5395 Рік тому

      Yep that was criminal by the Wellington Council to rip out a basically new wiring system and buses that were only 10 years old.

  • @cJ-cr8gp
    @cJ-cr8gp Рік тому

    Awesome. I remember as a small child in the 60’s being on a trolley in Bradford. I would have been 9 when they ended. Shall visit soon...

  • @malcolmbrown3532
    @malcolmbrown3532 Рік тому +1

    I recall that the had a Newcastle [upon Tyne] Trolley bus at Beamish Museum in the early days. On one occasion visiting, it was got out of the shared Tram/road vehicle shed. Once outside it studiously refused to go backwards, forwards or any direction at all, no matter what...... After a while the staff gave up and pushed the 'bus back in the shed by hand. In the same way as folk "jump start" a car.

  • @arthurvasey
    @arthurvasey Рік тому +3

    We had trolley buses running a circuitous route terminating in North Ormesby, but travelling to places like Cargo Fleet, South Bank, Grangetown, Eston and Normanby - that was discontinued in about 1971, I believe!

  • @andrewmyerscough9397
    @andrewmyerscough9397 Рік тому +2

    I've been on modern trolley busses in Belgrade. A strange but good experience with no engine sound

  • @robertlewis7237
    @robertlewis7237 Рік тому

    THANK YOU FOR VIDEO
    USED IN AUSTRALIA IN STATE SERVICE HERE FOR SHORT TIME

  • @thestig8133
    @thestig8133 Рік тому +2

    Beautifully & lovingly restored. By those who enjoy working with these lovely old vehicles. Just wish they had a lot more space to drive on instead what seems like just over 200 yards or less than quarter of a acre ( or there abouts). 🥺

  • @atlanticcoastexpress
    @atlanticcoastexpress Рік тому +3

    Many thanks….a truly excellent video and it’s the very first (I’ve watched many trolleybus themed videos) to show the power supply aspects. I really wasn’t expecting to see a Hackbridge-Hewittic glass bottle Mercury Arc rectifier in action! Well done for showing this absolutely basic piece of information that’s usually totally ignored by other videographers. Top marks!
    Suggestions: I would have preferred a higher definition up-load but the lower definition didn’t detract from the viewing very much. Secondly, I would have preferred no music in the background so I could enjoy the peaceful sounds of the vehicles and your excellent camera work. Many thanks again and please pass my congratulations on to the private owners of the Huddersfield trolleybus….it looks brand new! From Rob in (unfortunately trolley-less nowadays) Bournemouth.

    • @davidmyers9810
      @davidmyers9810  Рік тому +2

      Hi Rob. I very much appreciate your comments. The footage was initially intended as an information/teaching aid for the museum but sadly it did not come to fruition. It was filmed on standard definition digital video and unfortunately on a large screen does not look anywhere near as good as the latest 2K /4K presentations. Just for anyone reading this I am a film maker and do not have any direct connection with the trolleybus museum.

  • @skipper409
    @skipper409 Рік тому

    Those 3 axle double deckers are so stylish. I can ‘just’ remember yellow ones in Newcastle

  • @TheHappyPensioners
    @TheHappyPensioners Рік тому +4

    Cracking film!

  • @ampersand.
    @ampersand. Рік тому

    Thoroughly enjoyable, thanks for sharing the video.

  • @gordonwebster3809
    @gordonwebster3809 Рік тому +4

    teesside trolley buses were clean quiet and fast

  • @victorvance2573
    @victorvance2573 Рік тому +1

    I knew of trolleybuses but thought it was a way more modern concept (1960s or 1970s maybe). It was very surprising to learn how long they already exist.
    Anyway this looks like a museum worth visiting.

  • @paulhorn2665
    @paulhorn2665 Рік тому +5

    Nice Video!

  • @rogerramsay5700
    @rogerramsay5700 Рік тому +1

    I remember riding the 609 T/B in North London back in the day brilliant😎👍

  • @davidrumbelow
    @davidrumbelow Рік тому +3

    Loved Cape Town trolley busses when I was growing up. Sadly they produced lots of static radio interference as they didn't have surpressors

  • @Steven_Rowe
    @Steven_Rowe Рік тому +5

    Great educational video.
    Went to Sandtoft in 2014.
    Pity the London trolley wasn't working, I remember them well.
    Strange that the accelerator and brake are reversed.
    I still don't know how they tension the tra tonight wires which must expand and contract.

    • @davidmyers9810
      @davidmyers9810  Рік тому +2

      Hi Steven.I understand the control handing was to aid tram drivers to adapt to trolleybuses. If you look at a tram controller the regulator is on the left and the brake on the right.

  • @dean6816
    @dean6816 Рік тому +1

    Fascinates me how this worked in busy cities??!

  • @barrytipton1179
    @barrytipton1179 Рік тому

    I remember Lancashire transport trams as a kid in 1950in Farnworth near Bolton. In 1967 they were still running in Pretoria S.A.

  • @peterlister9626
    @peterlister9626 Рік тому +1

    This is a brilliant video and is informative.

  • @warrencrosby2620
    @warrencrosby2620 Рік тому +2

    Here in the U.S our trolley buses don't have point controls, the pole pulls the direction change on its own.

  • @Mr_Spliffy
    @Mr_Spliffy Рік тому +3

    So cool

  • @robsmithracing
    @robsmithracing Рік тому +1

    I fly into Sandtoft airfield sometimes from Humberside. never knew it had a trolleybus museum 😮. I’ve only ever picked up some car spares from RenParts and took off again.

  • @geoffroberts4267
    @geoffroberts4267 Рік тому

    I grew up in Walsall, one of the very last Corporations to have Trolley buses, Tesla would be embarrassed at the power to weight acceleration possible over 60 years ago..

  • @colmone5592
    @colmone5592 Рік тому +3

    Make trolleybuses great again!

  • @robfriedrich2822
    @robfriedrich2822 Рік тому

    In the early 1950's they converted 3 diesel bus lines to trolleybus and in 1973 back (in East Berlin) and they abandoned trolleybus (in West Berlin).

  • @Telecolor-in3cl
    @Telecolor-in3cl Рік тому

    I've see a Porto trolleybus (Porto, Portugal was the last city with double deck trolleyebuses)
    and a Soligen one (the one with an upper deck only in the rear side).

  • @srfurley
    @srfurley 14 годин тому

    I never saw one n London. Would have been five when they were withdrawn but I don’t think there were any near where I lived. The only place I ever rode on one was in Moscow, in 1974.

  • @oscars4107
    @oscars4107 Рік тому +6

    This is the future🙂

    • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
      @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 Рік тому +1

      A modern trollybus system has so many advantages over trams but at a fraction of the price and difficulty of the inflexible dangerous track system. Plus with a battery pack on board you can divert round accidents and temporary diversions.
      You could skip any overheads at junctions and turns..
      For bodys use the 6 wheel double decker coaches...with large luggage rooms at the rear down stairs so you could carry bikes, prams and shopping trolleys out of the way of passengers.

  • @robfriedrich2822
    @robfriedrich2822 Рік тому

    In Berlin we had double deck bus and trolleybus, but never both in one.

  • @kevanhubbard9673
    @kevanhubbard9673 Рік тому

    That grey and red one with Boland on the front is very much like the livery that Northumbria adopted after the NBC split United up 3 ways in,if I remember correctly,1987.

  • @johannesfeigl5309
    @johannesfeigl5309 11 місяців тому

    I cant wait to visitsantoft orthecollection held in the lt museumm in south acton.london

  • @simonvancoevorden295
    @simonvancoevorden295 Рік тому +2

    They should have a look at the ultra modern trolly buses that are supposed to be withdrawn in Wellington New Zealand .

  • @thestig8133
    @thestig8133 Рік тому +5

    Such a shame they are on only a 4 acre area of land & it be far more enjoyable to ride on these with a huge 15 or 20+ acre area instead. But, sadly that is unlikely to happen.

  • @westyham1
    @westyham1 Рік тому +1

    No London trolley busses?

  • @begudmaximan953
    @begudmaximan953 Рік тому

    Modern trolleybus overhead is far less obtrusive as in the previous systems. There is a definate place for such vehicles, especially if operable in dual mode electro-diesel guise, with modern construction methods.
    Seen were the pioneering days, until urban planners in the 1960s decided otherwise.
    Perhaps twenty-first century attempts can re-ignite a clean come back given some forward thinking!

  • @z00h
    @z00h Рік тому

    Looks like the acceleratoeur was just an on off switch with very limited modulation?

  • @rogergaspar709
    @rogergaspar709 Рік тому +1

    Great video. Very good clear explanation. I travelled on one of the Nottingham Trolleys between 1959 and 1964 (one of the 8 footers) for school (Route 43). I am sure I have sat many times on that actual 8 footer you have. Do the trolley buses also have batteries for short emergency movement?

    • @fresagrus4490
      @fresagrus4490 Рік тому

      Yes, most if not all modern trolleybuses do

  • @johannesfeigl5309
    @johannesfeigl5309 11 місяців тому

    My hometownofsalzburgis still using articulatedand single cartrolly bussesthe articulazedareknown as"bendy busses"!!!!!!!!!!

  • @mikego18753
    @mikego18753 Рік тому

    Thumbs up David.Did they have a heater?
    Cheers.

    • @davidmyers9810
      @davidmyers9810  Рік тому +1

      So far as I know they did have electric heaters in the later buses. If you contact the Trolleybus Museum they will confirm this. They have a web site.

  • @bolwem50
    @bolwem50 Рік тому

    Well, going here is on my "To do" list now.

  • @trevorveail
    @trevorveail Рік тому

    All buses in Vancouver BC Canada become trolley buses when they enter the city limits. I rode on theses buses on many visits there between 1990 and my last vist in 2016.

  • @johannesfeigl5309
    @johannesfeigl5309 11 місяців тому

    I remembertravelling as a childonroute445 in north londonout of north finchley bus an d tram depot

  • @royston600
    @royston600 Рік тому

    The British people that used to travel on them will be things of the past soon

  • @paulwarner5395
    @paulwarner5395 Рік тому

    Thanx for the great tour. Where I come from in Auckland, New Zealand we had trolly busses until 1980 when the system was closed for upgrading. They lied and replaced it with dirty diesel busses. Our busses had BUT control gear with Ohio Brass overhead. Could never understand why the bus accelerator was on the left side of the steering wheel and the brake on the right. Was this a BUT thing?? Also I notice no overhear powered track switches only manual ones. Was this the norm in the UK??

    • @davidmyers9810
      @davidmyers9810  Рік тому

      Hi Paul. I understand the accelerator on the left and brake on the right reflected the layout of tram controls and was an aid to driver conversion from tram to trolleybus. I am not sure about the overhead powered switches here.

    • @Telecolor-in3cl
      @Telecolor-in3cl Рік тому

      @@davidmyers9810 For me, that should be the layout.

    • @crewkerne40
      @crewkerne40 7 місяців тому

      Cardiff trolleybuses had powered track switches in the overhead;the method of operation seemed to be approaching the switch the driver pulled on the handbrake at the same time boosting the power supply throught the bus,this made the switch change.

  • @rachelbridger2473
    @rachelbridger2473 Рік тому

    Have they spelt bazaar wrong?

  • @raycooke312
    @raycooke312 Рік тому

    Most cities in Ukraine still have running trolley buses. Trams are still quite common.
    And yes they have lots of dirty diesel ones.

  • @charleswll
    @charleswll Рік тому +2

    I wonder if these trolly buses could be revived by solar power?

    • @PreservationEnthusiast
      @PreservationEnthusiast Рік тому +1

      Not locally. The bus would not be able to collect nearly enough power on it's own.
      But renewable resources such as solar, wind and HEP, can feed into the grid to power electric buses.

  • @dierkschurack-ye9kr
    @dierkschurack-ye9kr 6 місяців тому

    Bei uns im Aachen. Deutschland hat es auch solche E Busse. Gegeben

  • @136miles
    @136miles Рік тому

    This place needs some serious investment and expansion

  • @terranceyeo3087
    @terranceyeo3087 Рік тому

    they knew what the future holds but we didn't keep up with the times as usual

  • @bangerbangerbro
    @bangerbangerbro Рік тому +1

    Remember the Trolleybus is all shot here too I think, together with some kind of soundblaster music.

  • @Teddystream.
    @Teddystream. Рік тому

    Not one London Trolley Bus

  • @gianpaoloarborio7009
    @gianpaoloarborio7009 6 місяців тому

    Lancia Esagamma Dalfa (Oporto)

  • @tonto716
    @tonto716 11 місяців тому

    I have 150scale models trolly buses When l tell Them they were electric they are Shocked and say what happened to them