By 1980, the band needed a rest. So many passed away that year: John Bonham, Keith Moon...Bon Scott. The touring had taken a hard toll on the majority of 70's touring acts, the decade even killed Elvis. The drugs within the music industry were ridiculous. Peter was lucky, he went to rehab and got himself together, eventually rejoining Kiss in 1996 for their Reunion tour.
Spot On. It was a time of excess. Studio 54. Cocaine was cool. Lynyrd Skynyrd was out of control before their crash. Peter Frampton couldn’t continue on. Disco was pure excess. The Bee Gees, Andy Gibb, Donna Summer, KC and the Sunshine Band, The Village People: just a whole lot of excess. Much nose candy. That Smell as Ronnie Van Zant sang. Blondie was another group that suffered from excess. And on and on. Groups would tour relentlessly. Excessively. Too much touring. Too much of the road. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. It was the late 70’s rolling into the early 80’s. Often romanticized, yet, the reality of it all was something much different. It’s a wonder more musicians didn’t suffer a similar fate.
You equate material possession with intellect? That’s strange I guess all those philosophers and scientists are idiots then because they didn’t make millions of dollars
@SpaceAce100 I like Paul more and more as I grow older. I am glad to know that gene was always a shitty but cocky business man. So glad Paul ran the show the whole time.
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It's so true. I have a friend for over 20 years and we do get along , but he's a total hypocrite and antagonist - alcohol fueled. I really don't like a lot about him but we are friends and we do care about eachother lol, it's just not fun to be around a weird alcoholic or drug addict when you're totally sober
Your idea of what makes a friend and mine are like 1,000% difference. If I do not like a lot about someone it's a better than 99% chance I am not going to continue much less start a friendship with that person. Doen't matter to me if their are a falling down drunk when they are drinking or a sober square. Unlikable people I just do not draw to........period!
Seriously. I spent the first three minutes of this story trying to figure out but this was actually Paul.. (forgot his last name), cause I don't know very much about KISS. But from three other comments I've accepted it is him. Not what I expected at all, though I'm not sure exactly what I did expect. Only other time I saw any of these guys talk was an interview with Simmons and .. Paul where Gene was telling him to stop contradicting everything he said. It was funny cause you could tell Paul didn't give af.
Fuck Paul Stanley, this a disgusting Peter smear campaign, unbelievable!!! Peter Criss actually quit and didn't sabotage the band, got tired of their bullshit and dictatorship!!! Enough said, team Peter!!!! Obviously, people are ignorant and insane if they don't see the treachery and Ace finally saw it a year later in 81!!!
I read Peter's autobiography/biography...he was a very messed up dude...the stories he tells about the events of his life are beyond wild, shocking, heartbreaking, even for a rock legend like PC. Its an incredible book
I agree, but at least Peter was honest in his book and told the truth, and actually it is disgusting that Paul and Gene have bashed Peter and Ace for years, because Peter never bashed them in his book, he was honestly critical on himself!!!
Ace seemed to complain the least, which is kind of strange. He seemed like the most rational, which is so strange to say. At least he admits that he was a drunken dick and that the other band members must hated dealing with him.
Peter was very sick because of addiction! A bad situation! I wish that he would have gotten some much needed help at the time. Addiction is so real and a person has to reach out for help to receive any help. Still, I wish him the best in whatever he's doing today. Peace.
@John Smith you must be going to some shit artists then.....a real artist plays you ....in Australia we get pretty rowdy and abuse the bands thats means we like you
I was friends with someone who worked for Kiss for decades so I have met them and heard stories and met both Peter and Ace on solo tours. They were both still wasted when I met them. I know there are people who think..rock band..they all had to have drunk or did drugs. I'm in my 50s now..rock fan..and nope..never drank or did drugs. And Gene never has and Paul occasionally drinks. So when you don't and your are constantly around someone who is, it gets hard to be around them. And Paul and Gene were and still are businessmen. They were running a business and having musicians who are always drunk or high wasn't working. They didn't want help at the time. And you can't make people get help if they don't want it.
I think part of the issue that people have, is how KISS now seems to treat their ex members, like Ace and Peter, usually trying to act as if they didn't deserve to be in KISS. It's not like Gene didn't have his own addictions, it's just that women won't affect you as much as alcohol, but it's still an addiction
Unicorn Steaks Ace was a joke of a guitar player. Bruce and Vinnie blew him away easily. Even Tommy plays Ace guitar solos better than Ace. He was very sloppy. The best part of the show is when his guitar flew out of his hands so we didn’t have to hear him play. It gave our ears a much needed break. 😂
Bruce and Vinnie were better technically,but Ace is the one who influenced scores of guitarists,played the solos everyone remembers,is far more famous...
Right there with you, Paul. If someone refuses to carry their share of the load, let them go and find someone else who will. I am sorry Peter is gone. But it was for the best.
Paul Is full of himself and always has been. I have personally met him twice and he refused to sign an album for me. Yet he Is the member of the band that always says '' We couldn't be here without our fans ''
Paul is a narcissistic sociopath asshole, jealous of Peter and Ace the real talent!!! Peter said in his book, he regrets sobataging that show, but he said Paul and Gene at that time in 79 after the Phantom of the Park disaster, they didn't listen to any input from Peter or Ace and Dynasty only had Peter on 2 drum tracks and Ace on none!!! Fuck this ridiculous asshole, without Peter and Ace these two greedy dickbags would have never, and I mean never been great!!!!@
Paul and Gene can say what they want, but the best Kiss era was when Peter and Ace were in the band. Too bad egos, money, alcohol and drugs fucked up the band but that's part of rock n roll. Now they're currently on their last tour? Thank God
Peter had also regularly on the Dynasty Tour been pretending to forget the words to Beth. And if you read his book, in his own words he said he put his hands on Gene and knew the second he did it that he was out. Ace told him, “I’m sorry Catman but you were out of control.” Then the other 3 felt guilty and gave him an audition to see if they could work it out. Again in the book by Peter’s own admission he sabotaged it, being sarcastic and trying to make a point. He was playing too slow and saying, Is this good enough?! Am I doing it right?! They said, OK we tried but we can’t do this anymore.
They just couldn’t afford to pay them. Firing 2, and replacing them with minimum wagers, allowed KISS to carry on, and Gene and Paul to make millions of dollars Peter and Ace wouldn’t get.
I vividly remember when Peter left KISS. I was 5 and all I knew was that the Catman from my favourite band had gone. I was finishing some leftover cookies from my school lunch, crying, then choking on cookie crumbs, then having more cookies, more crying, more choking. I finished my cookie though.
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Peter (and Ace) thought that KISS was supposed to be a heavy metal band. It was Paul and Gene's decision to put out Dynasty, Unmasked and Music from the Elder. Instead of owning up to his bad decisions, Paul would rather blame Peter and Ace for the fact that nobody listened to KISS in the 1980s.
Actually I know a lot of people who listened to kiss in the 80's,get your facts straight.Kiss also has the largest fan base in the world known as the kiss army.Just because you don't like them doesn't give you the right to tell lies about them.
Here I am at 32 years old first got introduced to KISS from the movie Detroit Rock City that I would watch religiously & these four guys are still my favorite Heavy Metal gods of all time.🤘🏼
Sounds like a pretty logical business decision to me. People want to make it about friends and all that stuff but in the end they've all got bills to pay. And I would say that they made a great decision letting those two go. However much people hate to see it it is business
@@sjnxsjxyn Glad you saw KISS. They are one of a kind concert. There's some good UA-cam videos of End of the Road tour that you will enjoy. My favorite is from Pittsburgh, the opening of the show
It was only when he mentioned Peter's second marriage that I realized I had heard this before: this is an excerpt from Paul Stanley's audiobook version of his autobiography.
He wasn´t ""his friend"" chump, AND THIS IS A BUSSINESS if you don´t know it. Also, Peter WAS FIRED FOR THE SAME REASONS THREE TIMES IN DIFFERENT ERAS, three times! For god´s sake, nobody is that stupid! Well, Peter was... So he had his chances and he alone decided to throw it all away. Nobody to blame but himself
Zoe Smith Peter isn’t as bad now but idk if I’d rlly trust peter. Same thing with gene simmons he talked about ace and Peter. I think it was either gene or Paul I can’t remember
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"it was the end of something... but WAT?" well it was the end of the band really. i loved them as a little kid, but after they lost one i never listened again. it was a 'thing' for me. they were the four of them, when they weren't it was changing something immutable for me. the same since i was little, things like that - just seemed like they were forever. when they weren't.... well you know kids don't know how to take that stuff, because they've usually not seen it yet. i get being a grown up and having to make that call on a band-mate, but don't expect a kid fan to ever be able to conceptualize it. it was never the same for me after that.
End of the day Peter was an original but he will also forever be a mediocre drummer. Not sure why everyone get's pissed when Paul says Peter basically sucked and was a pain in the ass to deal with.
Whoever the comment was that said Peter and Ace had lesser talent than Gene and Paul was wrong!!! They just didn't have the ego problem Gene and Paul did!!
Mick Jagger once said, and I para phrase “u aren’t at 100% on stage for the fans when drugs and alcohol are involved”. Alcohol and drugs will consume ur life.. I’m glad Paul and Gene did not take that road. My younger brother died from a heroin overdose years ago.. he was super smart, funny and would have all the women after him cuz he was seriously handsome.. but drugs was all that mattered to him .. sad. RIP Jon.
Bottom line is without Peter Criss and Ace Frehley, it ain't Kiss. Its just a money hungry poor ass bass player that had to resort to gimmicks to be relevant. Hate me for saying that. I don't care.
The band got beter without them , They were drinking and drugging and not doing their job. The singers and writers are still there. The brains behind the band are still there. Legendary band
This was in the past and anyone who struggles with their inside demons and survives should be credited for their success beating the demons . Peter and Ace are happily doing what they do these days. Being rich and famous doesnt mean happiness. The band ruled the world in the 70s and no line up after that will top the classic line up.
Paul also mentions in his book that Peter already threatened the band in the early years. For example, "Hooligan" was originally planned with Gene on vocals. Peter said: "I'll sing "Hooligan", or I'm out!". I never respected him as a musician. I mean, listen to his boring drum solos. He needed dozens of takes to play the more complicated tunes. Ace is great, but the guitar players that also were on the albums (Bob Kulick, Bruce Kulick, Vinnie Vincent, Steve Farris, Mark St. John, Dick Wagner and so on) are way better.
wikipedia tells me that Peter took a songwriting credit for "Hooligan". If he didn't actually write any of it, fuck that! But if he did, I support him. Every song I've ever written, I get lead-vocal, unless I give it to someone else.
2:39 How disrespectful have these rock divas been to each other along the years! What does Peter´s second marriage have to do here? Isn't Paul strictly talking about professional issues?
well, i can hear in his voice, Paul's, that he is bitter, and i am trying to look at this from all sides instead of just listening to bits and clips on here, but Paul has some hang ups from his childhood as well as from his deformity that has left him with bitterness? or bitterness that can come out, intentional or unintentional, towards situations that he is uncomfortable with, i can not say for him on what to do, but i myself found that if you just let it go, you are better off for it, i understand that he had made it, rock star, lots of cash, but if you listen or read book, you can see what i am saying here and why he is why he is, yes he does sound like a whinny bitch, but looking at it form his point of view this was something, the band that he worked hard for and got it! but once more, it is better to let things go and not let it embitter you more so than what you already are, perhaps he can nto see that due to his bitterness that he harbors from his deformity, nothing to be ashamed of mind you,and his childhood which does not sound all that great. in closing, none of us are perfect, if we was , it sure as hell would be boring but perhaps Paul as well as the rest of us could try and rise above such things and maybe be a better person for it in the end. just a thought here that i wanted to share
Drug and or alcohol addictions have ruined so many careers, spousal and family relationships, and lives. Some below here say, you have to give them a chance. Truth is, numerous chances are given, until those around the addict realize he/she isn't trying to solve their problem, so the spouse, family member, friends, co-workers finally give up and cut the masochistic person loose. I know about this because a close family member has run out of chances with us. It's sad, it hurts, it's not our fault, he lies to himself, and won't change.
Whether or not you like Kiss, you can't deny that their focus was always on giving their fans the best show they could do. They were always very appreciative and grateful for their fans.
@@taylorlibby7642 I don't care what has happened to the Western world this dude's attitude is Unforgivable. For Christ's sake he walked out on a Make-a-Wish child just because her family couldn't afford to buy her an authentic KISS T-shirt because they were paying her medical bills.
If you don't care to look at what I have to say (it's a documentary btw) and decide to be so insulting and dismissive about it, why should I g.a.f. about you ranting out your highly suspect rumor-mill story? Away with you you boring person.🥱
Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons were no interested in have excess. Simmons said that his mother had a lot of problems in her life and he said that he didn't wanted make her crying for stupid things like drugs and alcohol
@@jimd2101 having reservations to only drink on weekends is what alcoholics do. You were a loser with a drinking prob too. You just knew when to drink.
ABC 789 Kid Rock is not even close to as talented or good as KISS, or even most popular artists and bands lmao. I god a great seat for $100-$150 and it was the greatest show of my life thus far.
Real Story.... He left the band cause Paul was trying to hookup with him ....lol....So he took his makeup case and high heels and his purse and left the band... Paul was trying to be gay with him...LOL
Gene's and Paul's discipline is what kept the band alive when Ace and Peter were trying to destroy it with their unprofessionalism. It reached a point where they couldn't even make it to the studio or play on stage because they weren't sober. Being around an addict is hard when you're not one yourself.
Opposite!!! If it wasn't for Peter and Ace bailed them out in the early days Paul and Gene would still be in a scumbag apartment playing with Wicked fuckin Lester people!!!
Yes, great speaker, pleasant voice, just a pity about the resentful, narcissistic poison that comes out of his huge wrinkled, plastic surgeried bald head that's ugly.
When I saw KISS in 2000 in their first farewell tour Peter was there. I'm a musician and I prayed everyone was in top form. Thankfully everyone was. It was an amazing show and I'm extremely thankful that it was.
By 1980, the band needed a rest. So many passed away that year: John Bonham, Keith Moon...Bon Scott. The touring had taken a hard toll on the majority of 70's touring acts, the decade even killed Elvis. The drugs within the music industry were ridiculous. Peter was lucky, he went to rehab and got himself together, eventually rejoining Kiss in 1996 for their Reunion tour.
Spot On. It was a time of excess. Studio 54. Cocaine was cool. Lynyrd Skynyrd was out of control before their crash. Peter Frampton couldn’t continue on. Disco was pure excess. The Bee Gees, Andy Gibb, Donna Summer, KC and the Sunshine Band, The Village People: just a whole lot of excess. Much nose candy. That Smell as Ronnie Van Zant sang. Blondie was another group that suffered from excess. And on and on. Groups would tour relentlessly. Excessively. Too much touring. Too much of the road. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. It was the late 70’s rolling into the early 80’s. Often romanticized, yet, the reality of it all was something much different. It’s a wonder more musicians didn’t suffer a similar fate.
John Lennon.
Keith Moon died in 1978
Kieth moon died in 78 get your shit together
I never taught about with Elvis and bon Scott
Whether you like Paul or not....he is one SMART man.
50 years of PURE SUCCESS.
Doesn't get any smarter than THAT.
You have a bizarre idea of "success". Oh, you meant money! Sorry...
It’s not about success. It’s about significance.
You equate material possession with intellect? That’s strange I guess all those philosophers and scientists are idiots then because they didn’t make millions of dollars
@SpaceAce100 I like Paul more and more as I grow older. I am glad to know that gene was always a shitty but cocky business man. So glad Paul ran the show the whole time.
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KISS GOT SONGS PLAYED THE WRIGHT WAY THATS MY TAKE BUENO DIAS😎I NEED SOME⛽
Unless you are drunk yourself you cannot stand to be around a drunk
It's so true. I have a friend for over 20 years and we do get along , but he's a total hypocrite and antagonist - alcohol fueled. I really don't like a lot about him but we are friends and we do care about eachother lol, it's just not fun to be around a weird alcoholic or drug addict when you're totally sober
Oh Hell yeah!!! My feelings exactly.
Your idea of what makes a friend and mine are like 1,000% difference. If I do not like a lot about someone it's a better than 99% chance I am not going to continue much less start a friendship with that person. Doen't matter to me if their are a falling down drunk when they are drinking or a sober square. Unlikable people I just do not draw to........period!
So is our alleged President. Criss and Frehley have both been sober for years. Simmons and Stanley are both STILL assholes.
I think we can do without the hate speech.
"Nobody wants to be Peter Criss, not even Peter Criss" -Peter Griffin
nice to see u here fam
Eric singer does
Peter is da MAAAAAAN
@@cheriblossom983 LMAO spot on
He had the best voice out of the original four
I want Paul to read me a bedtime story....he has a soothing voice.
Smh lol
Honestly
@@ironhorse6688 don't be rude
IKRR
Seriously. I spent the first three minutes of this story trying to figure out but this was actually Paul.. (forgot his last name), cause I don't know very much about KISS.
But from three other comments I've accepted it is him. Not what I expected at all, though I'm not sure exactly what I did expect. Only other time I saw any of these guys talk was an interview with Simmons and .. Paul where Gene was telling him to stop contradicting everything he said. It was funny cause you could tell Paul didn't give af.
"if he wants to be at the front of the stage, he should learn to play the damn guitar"
--the irony is so thick, i swear i can see it from 1979
Yes, the irony is that Stanley should learn to play guitar.
I don't know what you mean. Playing 2 chords a song live is totally playing guitar. Right?
Paul is a great rhythm guitarist. His lead notes are in his voice (not so much these days)
indytbird you’re actually an idiot. Caw
Is it Paul Stanley or is it Memorex?
And then came Eric Carr......RIP my man!
I remember the night he died, hearing it on the radio. He was way too young, it was an actual tragedy.
Shawn Lewis bless Eric’s heart. R.I.P.
Eric IS the most talented drummer in rock history ever!
Same man. RIP Eric Carr. One of my favorite drummers of all time.
Eric Carr chokes me up. he was a good drummer.
Whether you like Paul Stanley or not you would have to agree he is a very good narrator.
He is great at this
Paul was always the true talent in the band, period. He held it together even when Gene went Hollywood. Met him once, a truly nice and funny man.
He really is. I would like to see him narrate more and do books on audio.
He is, and a good writer and speaker in general. There's an old Joe Rogan with him on it that's pretty great.
Fuck Paul Stanley, this a disgusting Peter smear campaign, unbelievable!!! Peter Criss actually quit and didn't sabotage the band, got tired of their bullshit and dictatorship!!! Enough said, team Peter!!!! Obviously, people are ignorant and insane if they don't see the treachery and Ace finally saw it a year later in 81!!!
Ace: I wanna be a space alien! Gene: I wanna be a demon from hell! Peter: I wanna be a cat, MEOW! Paul: ...You're fired!
so true! lol!
Fired THREE TIMES in different eras! For god´s sake! Nobody is that stupid!... Well, he was.
...and fired from the superstar
Lol
Paul: I wanna be the fancy girl
I think he was really fired cause he wouldnt shave his green armpit hair
They didnt like cats. Peters Beth was a good song.
Did get a little out of control
Lol
Ha... Ha-ha... Hahahahahahahahaha!
@@roberthickerty390 - Har! I see what you did there!
I read Peter's autobiography/biography...he was a very messed up dude...the stories he tells about the events of his life are beyond wild, shocking, heartbreaking, even for a rock legend like PC. Its an incredible book
what happened?
I agree, but at least Peter was honest in his book and told the truth, and actually it is disgusting that Paul and Gene have bashed Peter and Ace for years, because Peter never bashed them in his book, he was honestly critical on himself!!!
I wish Peter still wore this costume. Not while performing - just while hanging out and watching tv or reading at home.
AccurateCrabLegs 😂
AccurateCrabLegs I bet he does 🤣
He probably now dresses up as Paul Stanley or Gene Simmons.
@Rulya Mórrigan Ard Mhacha lol. You're probably right. I'm guessing that he has worn his costume to a number of work functions by now.
I love this costume just for the fur cape covered in green tails
If you want proof there's no such thing as an adult, listen to each member of KISS complain about the other three...
MiddleFingerMotionPictures Seriously? That’s their truth as they saw it, dumb ass.
Ace seemed to complain the least, which is kind of strange. He seemed like the most rational, which is so strange to say.
At least he admits that he was a drunken dick and that the other band members must hated dealing with him.
Peter was very sick because of addiction! A bad situation! I wish that he would have gotten some much needed help at the time. Addiction is so real and a person has to reach out for help to receive any help. Still, I wish him the best in whatever he's doing today. Peace.
What drugs did he use, heroin?
when I can't sleep, I play anything with Paul talking; problem solved !
LOL
His voice is heaven his looks naughty n fun no sleeping lol
Yup. They have his audiobook here on Utube....
Of course, Pau is reading it.
When I can't sleep I put it on and nighters....
LMAO
Lol, now that's funny
I agree. If I pay for your show, you better be a friggin' professional and give me a great show.
Don is looking at you Lars...
@John Smith I've never seen a bad show
@John Smith you must be going to some shit artists then.....a real artist plays you ....in Australia we get pretty rowdy and abuse the bands thats means we like you
@John Smith i saw iggy pop this year on his 72th birthday in melbourne australia was the show of the year amazing
@John Smith some bands only make sense live then you can see the raw power ...they are human everyone has a off night i guess
You gotta admit that sheet music bit was pretty damn funny, haha
The part where you said I read music now it's funnier.
Some people just have serious problems. Hope it all works out. I'm just glad to be here. God bless.
God Bless
I was friends with someone who worked for Kiss for decades so I have met them and heard stories and met both Peter and Ace on solo tours. They were both still wasted when I met them.
I know there are people who think..rock band..they all had to have drunk or did drugs. I'm in my 50s now..rock fan..and nope..never drank or did drugs. And Gene never has and Paul occasionally drinks. So when you don't and your are constantly around someone who is, it gets hard to be around them. And Paul and Gene were and still are businessmen. They were running a business and having musicians who are always drunk or high wasn't working. They didn't want help at the time. And you can't make people get help if they don't want it.
shut up and pour some cold gin!
I think part of the issue that people have, is how KISS now seems to treat their ex members, like Ace and Peter, usually trying to act as if they didn't deserve to be in KISS. It's not like Gene didn't have his own addictions, it's just that women won't affect you as much as alcohol, but it's still an addiction
Yes as someone that doesnt drink it is very annoying to be around a drunk dude.
Susan Burris wow
Susan Burris reasonable
He looks like the frickin' Grinch...the Jim Carrey version
Tom Julian he does.😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 true!
Imagine having to appear in public in that garb. I hated the Dynasty look. When they started wearing capes it was over.
(sings) You're a drunk one... Mr. Criss!
@@brianshaffneraclc you really are a mess!
This sounds like a Paul Stanley computer voice bot!
Then, it would sound computerized. But it's really him.
@Hirkey Shmirkey LOL, that woudl be great
Ha ..i hadnt thought about that...your so right
Its the audiobook read from Paul.... from Pauls book 🙄
I remember when this happened. I was 19 and had a subscription to Creem mag. The front cover had the headline....Chris says Hiss to Kiss!
Yeah it’s time to go. I listened to the whole thing. You did the right thing.
He seemed a little difficult
I'd get wasted too if I had to wear that costume.
and hear that music...
lmao!
Or had to put up with Chaim and Stanley, or is it Laurel and Hardy?
That outfit is dope as fuck. He should’ve went and joined Parliament Funkadelic after KISS. They wouldn’t even mind him being all doped up.
LOLO :))..
Yeah, Peter was a mess, but Ace was the best musician in the band, even if he was drunk all the time.
Unicorn Steaks Ace was a joke of a guitar player. Bruce and Vinnie blew him away easily. Even Tommy plays Ace guitar solos better than Ace. He was very sloppy. The best part of the show is when his guitar flew out of his hands so we didn’t have to hear him play. It gave our ears a much needed break. 😂
Even the solos he did on "Dark Light" and "Breakout"?
Bruce and Vinnie were better technically,but Ace is the one who influenced scores of guitarists,played the solos everyone remembers,is far more famous...
Unicorn Steaks ::: I Still Listen to (New York Groove)... Everyday:::
Without a doubt - PERIOD.
I agree with Paul... I've listened to a lot of what he says and he is an honest and wise man.
Paul lies through his teeth...
Paul is a DICK
@83rdox lmao!
Well, Paul was always a man with principles. He never stooped so low as to do a Folgers commercial!
My goodness, Paul has such a beautiful voice.
LOL
Right there with you, Paul. If someone refuses to carry their share of the load, let them go and find someone else who will.
I am sorry Peter is gone. But it was for the best.
Yes. His successors were far more capable. They don't need triggered drums (did such a thing even _exist_ before Peter?)
Shit, they couldn't hold Peter drumsticks in his prime!!!! Team Peter and Ace always
Paul Is full of himself and always has been. I have personally met him twice and he refused to sign an album for me. Yet he Is the member of the band that always says '' We couldn't be here without our fans ''
what album?? maybe he has a not fav album.
That's a shame
Paul is a narcissistic sociopath asshole, jealous of Peter and Ace the real talent!!! Peter said in his book, he regrets sobataging that show, but he said Paul and Gene at that time in 79 after the Phantom of the Park disaster, they didn't listen to any input from Peter or Ace and Dynasty only had Peter on 2 drum tracks and Ace on none!!! Fuck this ridiculous asshole, without Peter and Ace these two greedy dickbags would have never, and I mean never been great!!!!@
Ever been in a band with drug addicts or alcoholics? I have. It's a fucking nightmare.
@@ooneybird27 I met Gene in 02. Was totally down to earth with me.
Paul and Gene can say what they want, but the best Kiss era was when Peter and Ace were in the band. Too bad egos, money, alcohol and drugs fucked up the band but that's part of rock n roll. Now they're currently on their last tour? Thank God
Peter had also regularly on the Dynasty Tour been pretending to forget the words to Beth. And if you read his book, in his own words he said he put his hands on Gene and knew the second he did it that he was out. Ace told him, “I’m sorry Catman but you were out of control.” Then the other 3 felt guilty and gave him an audition to see if they could work it out. Again in the book by Peter’s own admission he sabotaged it, being sarcastic and trying to make a point. He was playing too slow and saying, Is this good enough?! Am I doing it right?! They said, OK we tried but we can’t do this anymore.
They just couldn’t afford to pay them. Firing 2, and replacing them with minimum wagers, allowed KISS to carry on, and Gene and Paul to make millions of dollars Peter and Ace wouldn’t get.
I heard they got replaced by illegal immigrants. Far less expensive.
I vividly remember when Peter left KISS. I was 5 and all I knew was that the Catman from my favourite band had gone. I was finishing some leftover cookies from my school lunch, crying, then choking on cookie crumbs, then having more cookies, more crying, more choking. I finished my cookie though.
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Peter (and Ace) thought that KISS was supposed to be a heavy metal band. It was Paul and Gene's decision to put out Dynasty, Unmasked and Music from the Elder. Instead of owning up to his bad decisions, Paul would rather blame Peter and Ace for the fact that nobody listened to KISS in the 1980s.
Actually I know a lot of people who listened to kiss in the 80's,get your facts straight.Kiss also has the largest fan base in the world known as the kiss army.Just because you don't like them doesn't give you the right to tell lies about them.
Here I am at 32 years old first got introduced to KISS from the movie Detroit Rock City that I would watch religiously & these four guys are still my favorite Heavy Metal gods of all time.🤘🏼
kiss aint the same since they fell apart
Peter Criss was the 70's version of Steven Adler..
I just spit out my water folks.
Man I love this band😎 Especially Ace Fhreely
paul stanely the great martyr takes on the whole big bad evil world
Lol...The Great Complainer.
Sounds like a pretty logical business decision to me. People want to make it about friends and all that stuff but in the end they've all got bills to pay. And I would say that they made a great decision letting those two go. However much people hate to see it it is business
I could listen to Paul Stanley all day and night.❤️😉❤️
This was awesome
Cordell Ivy same here! I’m seeing them this Saturday with my best friend and can’t wait
@@sjnxsjxyn was it a great show. Ofc.
Your favorite part?
@@sjnxsjxyn did you make it to the show? Did you see them descend to the stage covered in smoke jamming Detroit Rock City?
Cordell Ivy I did make it and it was awesome👍
@@sjnxsjxyn Glad you saw KISS.
They are one of a kind concert.
There's some good UA-cam videos of End of the Road tour that you will enjoy.
My favorite is from Pittsburgh, the opening of the show
It was only when he mentioned Peter's second marriage that I realized I had heard this before: this is an excerpt from Paul Stanley's audiobook version of his autobiography.
Nothing like throwing your team mate under the bus to get the attention of yourself.
Exactly
Well, they are KISS. Look at Gene. Money hungry egomaniacal dick but we all still love him.
He wasn´t ""his friend"" chump, AND THIS IS A BUSSINESS if you don´t know it. Also, Peter WAS FIRED FOR THE SAME REASONS THREE TIMES IN DIFFERENT ERAS, three times! For god´s sake, nobody is that stupid! Well, Peter was... So he had his chances and he alone decided to throw it all away. Nobody to blame but himself
Thanks For sharing that with us. 🥁
(KISS FOREVER!!!!!)
this band always reminds me of scooby doo
just another old cartoon
j en The fact is they did the movie Scooby Doo And KISS Rock In Roll Mystery.
What children's book is this from? Great reading by Paul. I am getting sleepy.
Sorry for my lack of knowledge, but is this from a book of his, or rather an audiobook version? Thanks!
When I was a kid, Peter Criss was my favorite KISS member because he looked like a cat...and I wasn't really a KISS fan.
Paul Stanley is gorgeous and so talented angelic o, I'm a huge fan!!
Paul is so perfect.
HE MASTERBATES IN FRONT OF THE MIRROR
Paul and Gene are the greatest....Just ask them, they will tell you.
Not that much, they are human beings, they can make mistakes but this wasn´t one of them
You are so FULL of shit F U z z e e Knutts
@@robmoir7524 🖕
I went and saw kiss last night and missed peter criss but after hearing this I don’t care anymore
Zoe Smith Peter isn’t as bad now but idk if I’d rlly trust peter. Same thing with gene simmons he talked about ace and Peter. I think it was either gene or Paul I can’t remember
Paul Stanley: It's everyone's fault except mine. I'd pitch a fit if I had to wear that God awful green fur.
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Paul should be a narrator he would be good at it
"it was the end of something... but WAT?" well it was the end of the band really. i loved them as a little kid, but after they lost one i never listened again. it was a 'thing' for me. they were the four of them, when they weren't it was changing something immutable for me. the same since i was little, things like that - just seemed like they were forever. when they weren't.... well you know kids don't know how to take that stuff, because they've usually not seen it yet. i get being a grown up and having to make that call on a band-mate, but don't expect a kid fan to ever be able to conceptualize it. it was never the same for me after that.
i think the band has grown. also, since u havent listened since they fired Mr. Criss, you missed out on a lot of good music
Damn,a KI⚡⚡ ASMR! AWESOME!!
Wonder why each of Paul's videos about band members he is reading it?
Dan Cujo - there clips from him reading his Kindle audio memoir. E-book.
End of the day Peter was an original but he will also forever be a mediocre drummer. Not sure why everyone get's pissed when Paul says Peter basically sucked and was a pain in the ass to deal with.
Whoever the comment was that said Peter and Ace had lesser talent than Gene and Paul was wrong!!! They just didn't have the ego problem Gene and Paul did!!
Is this part of an Autobiography?
Yes
Mick Jagger once said, and I para phrase “u aren’t at 100% on stage for the fans when drugs and alcohol are involved”. Alcohol and drugs will consume ur life.. I’m glad Paul and Gene did not take that road. My younger brother died from a heroin overdose years ago.. he was super smart, funny and would have all the women after him cuz he was seriously handsome.. but drugs was all that mattered to him .. sad. RIP Jon.
Bottom line is without Peter Criss and Ace Frehley, it ain't Kiss. Its just a money hungry poor ass bass player that had to resort to gimmicks to be relevant. Hate me for saying that. I don't care.
Agree 100%
agree randy ace the best in the bandgene and paul both terds
The band got beter without them , They were drinking and drugging and not doing their job. The singers and writers are still there. The brains behind the band are still there. Legendary band
No disrespect to the other members that came after Peter and Ace, but whenever people think of KISS, they think of the original four.
@@countryboy5510 turds.
Purposely messing up a gig out of spite is going too far. People pay their hard earned money to be entertained and they expect you to deliver.
This was in the past and anyone who struggles with their inside demons and survives should be credited for their success beating the demons . Peter and Ace are happily doing what they do these days. Being rich and famous doesnt mean happiness. The band ruled the world in the 70s and no line up after that will top the classic line up.
Paul also mentions in his book that Peter already threatened the band in the early years. For example, "Hooligan" was originally planned with Gene on vocals. Peter said: "I'll sing "Hooligan", or I'm out!". I never respected him as a musician. I mean, listen to his boring drum solos. He needed dozens of takes to play the more complicated tunes. Ace is great, but the guitar players that also were on the albums (Bob Kulick, Bruce Kulick, Vinnie Vincent, Steve Farris, Mark St. John, Dick Wagner and so on) are way better.
VelvetViolator wrong
Ace can never be replaced
Plenty of good guitar players... Very few entertainers with the star-power of Ace...
wikipedia tells me that Peter took a songwriting credit for "Hooligan". If he didn't actually write any of it, fuck that! But if he did, I support him. Every song I've ever written, I get lead-vocal, unless I give it to someone else.
Absolutely agree
Never could stand to listen to paul.
Paul Stanley talking about Peter: "If WE LET HIM sleep late..." First sign of a control freak... who was Paul to LET HIM do anything?...
Have you been around drunk/addicted people? Especially if your job depends on it?
2:39 How disrespectful have these rock divas been to each other along the years! What does Peter´s second marriage have to do here? Isn't Paul strictly talking about professional issues?
We all know that Paul Stanley can't live without peter, lol. He LOVES peter. lol
Gene Bath put Kiss on the map on your Destroyer album thanks to Peter Criss. I am a huge fan 45 years going back to Wick Lester
Gene acts like he isn't just a bass player, literally the most replaceable person in the band.
case by case
Bass players just ahead of drummers
Tell that to The Who, Cream and Led Zeppelin .
Paul could always get a job narrating online books.
With no doubt, he should give it a go.
Sounds like Peter had to deal with some high level A-holes.
Do you mean arseholes or assholes?
Wow Paul is good at this, great story 👍
What was this narration from?
...there is ALWAYS two sides to a story.
Paul Stanley has an issue with everything
_Paul Stanley has an issue with this comment_
"If he wants to be in front of stage he should play guitar." Fuck he couldn't play drums nevermind guitar
I feel bad for Peter, he didn't really get a chance. He was only on KISS for a day.
well, i can hear in his voice, Paul's, that he is bitter, and i am trying to look at this from all sides instead of just listening to bits and clips on here, but Paul has some hang ups from his childhood as well as from his deformity that has left him with bitterness? or bitterness that can come out, intentional or unintentional, towards situations that he is uncomfortable with, i can not say for him on what to do, but i myself found that if you just let it go, you are better off for it, i understand that he had made it, rock star, lots of cash, but if you listen or read book, you can see what i am saying here and why he is why he is, yes he does sound like a whinny bitch, but looking at it form his point of view this was something, the band that he worked hard for and got it! but once more, it is better to let things go and not let it embitter you more so than what you already are, perhaps he can nto see that due to his bitterness that he harbors from his deformity, nothing to be ashamed of mind you,and his childhood which does not sound all that great. in closing, none of us are perfect, if we was , it sure as hell would be boring but perhaps Paul as well as the rest of us could try and rise above such things and maybe be a better person for it in the end. just a thought here that i wanted to share
Jealous gets you now where and at the end you take it to your grave so get rid of it boys!
Who runs the Music, Entertainment or Media/Film Industry?
Jooooooze
Når jeg hører deg, Paul, så er jeg enig i alt. Det var synd men helt riktig.
Drug and or alcohol addictions have ruined so many careers, spousal and family relationships, and lives. Some below here say, you have to give them a chance. Truth is, numerous chances are given, until those around the addict realize he/she isn't trying to solve their problem, so the spouse, family member, friends, co-workers finally give up and cut the masochistic person loose. I know about this because a close family member has run out of chances with us. It's sad, it hurts, it's not our fault, he lies to himself, and won't change.
Whether or not you like Kiss, you can't deny that their focus was always on giving their fans the best show they could do. They were always very appreciative and grateful for their fans.
Well except for Gene Simmons.
@@honestdave🙄 Go watch Decline of Western Civilization II to get an idea about Gene's attitude towards his fans.
@@taylorlibby7642 I don't care what has happened to the Western world this dude's attitude is Unforgivable. For Christ's sake he walked out on a Make-a-Wish child just because her family couldn't afford to buy her an authentic KISS T-shirt because they were paying her medical bills.
If you don't care to look at what I have to say (it's a documentary btw) and decide to be so insulting and dismissive about it, why should I g.a.f. about you ranting out your highly suspect rumor-mill story? Away with you you boring person.🥱
@whiteapologistsarefkndum 🙄That makes absolutely no sense.
I heard peter criss in an interview say if he didn't leave he would've died from all the drugs an alcohol.
@Jim D you know that like 90% of rockstars do have drug and alcohol problems.
@@thecantaloupenetwork8862 well kiss always said they were a clean and sober band
@@thecantaloupenetwork8862 I drank a lot back in the 80s , but I was smart enough to only do it on the weekends
Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons were no interested in have excess.
Simmons said that his mother had a lot of problems in her life and he said that he didn't wanted make her crying for stupid things like drugs and alcohol
@@jimd2101 having reservations to only drink on weekends is what alcoholics do. You were a loser with a drinking prob too. You just knew when to drink.
"People had paid money..." Consistent theme with KISS. They have always treated their fans well.
The best thing about them.
A decent seat is over $300.
Not fair treatment to the fans.
@Mr Dancy Pants
I don't
@Mr Dancy Pants
Research Kid Rock's pricing for his fans.
ABC 789 Kid Rock is not even close to as talented or good as KISS, or even most popular artists and bands lmao. I god a great seat for $100-$150 and it was the greatest show of my life thus far.
He took his MAKEUP CASE and left. ROTFLMAO!!!!
John Craven LOL
HAHAAHAHHA
I was dying Lmaoooo
Yea, I'm gay and I have never heard that one before. I got a kick out of it. So profound.
He took his songbook too
LMAO!! “He took his makeup case and left”...🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
Real Story.... He left the band cause Paul was trying to hookup with him ....lol....So he took his makeup case and high heels and his purse and left the band... Paul was trying to be gay with him...LOL
Gene's and Paul's discipline is what kept the band alive when Ace and Peter were trying to destroy it with their unprofessionalism. It reached a point where they couldn't even make it to the studio or play on stage because they weren't sober. Being around an addict is hard when you're not one yourself.
It's even harder to be around an alcoholic when you're an alcoholic.
@@johngalush8790LOL
Opposite!!! If it wasn't for Peter and Ace bailed them out in the early days Paul and Gene would still be in a scumbag apartment playing with Wicked fuckin Lester people!!!
Neither Ace nor Peter ever missed a gig.
It sucks working with an addict 😔
Glad him and Ace got help.👍
Still one of my favorite child hood bands anyways.
I blame The Phantom of the Park.
Yapostadodat 😂😂😂😂😂
🤣
Yapostadodat lol 😂
+Yapostadodat If there was ever a jump-the-shark moment during KISS's career, that movie would be it!
Shhhh we dont talk about that! Lol
The funny thing here is that Criss sang what are probably their two best songs, Hard Luck Woman and Black Diamond.
Also "Beth" from the Destroyer album.
Dirty Livin'!
and arguably partially wrote their biggest hit "Beth". NO Peter, No Beth.
Yeah, but he didn’t write them.
@@stanknugget What does that say about them?
Cocaine is a helluva drug...
"She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie"....
"Master Of puppets I'm pulling your strings, Twisting your mind, Smashing your dreams!"
Don't you think I know what I'm doing don't tell me that it's doing me wrong you're the one that's really a loser this where I feel I belong
Good 1!
HAAA
This sounds like Paul reading for an audiobook
thethunderbird87 It is
Jajajaja
😂😂👍🏽
Bizarre
No shit Sherlock.....
All Paul Stanley does is to complain about Peter and Ace.
Not true. He also complains about Gene, Bruce, Vinnie, Eric, Axl Rose, and others.
@@unsweetenedit9090 ok - I'll take your word for it. Don't you kinda wish Paul would quit whining?
Given the failure of the “Cats” movie
This makes A LOT of sense.
Paul Stanley is definetely a great speaker. He has a pleasant voice and speaks with natural speed.
Jack McDouglas if only he would read books
@@keira7511 would you like to hear him reading audio books? is that it?
Jack McDouglas yeah, his voice is pretty soothing
Yes, great speaker, pleasant voice, just a pity about the resentful, narcissistic poison that comes out of his huge wrinkled, plastic surgeried bald head that's ugly.
@@Rockpig1969 don't be rude
When I saw KISS in 2000 in their first farewell tour Peter was there. I'm a musician and I prayed everyone was in top form. Thankfully everyone was. It was an amazing show and I'm extremely thankful that it was.
If one doesn't have the discipline to behave , then goodbye !!