[Lost Footage] Cannabis Strains Journey to The USA & Dutch Breeding Part 2 S01 E04
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
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Take a Toke/dab every time Notso says “right?”
We would pass out
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My uncle Terry takes the cake on rights he has this gnarly half laughing suggestive "riiiiighhiiiiighht!?" Lol
Shout out to uncle Terry, he was a cannabis legend back in the day
Aaaaaand I'm dead
So good 🙌 Notso motivating me to break into my old seed stash
Nice to see the oldies back up again❤🍻🙏
Man, you two are my heroes. Such knowledge on a plant that is so misunderstood. Thank you for sharing such amazing information. You two are such a wealth of knowledge. You are much appreciated.
16:30 I've don't a lot of research on this topic. Where it came from and how we started to use it. I think cannabis used to be a vine. A lot of people don't know its related to strawberries as well as hops. The regions it thrived in started to become more wet and tropical and over time, it began to lift off the ground. Resulting in things like creeper sativa variants that grow weirdly outward. I imagine the early variants growing like larger ABC cannabis from Australia. When those branches touch the ground, they root like strawberries. Eventually they began reaching upward because of light competition.
I believe cannabis, if left untouched by man, was well on it's way to becoming carnivorous. They smell a specific kind of way to attract insects that get stuck to their leaves. Other insects come and eat those bugs and poo on the leaves resulting in a proto carnivorous plant. There are plants right now that do the same thing and we unanimously consider them to be carnivorous. And they have trichomes that look exactly like the ones in cannabis. Plants like butterwort or the drosera. In these locations, the soil isnt exactly fertile, contrary to what most think. Nutrient uptake is just as competitive as the sun in dense tropical forests. It's really fascinating.
In regards to how people started smoking it. They probably thought it smelled interesting but tasted bad. That maybe they could burn it for religious purposes in a fire. Doing so, they realized the fibers are useful as twine or rope. They realized it got them high, useful as medicine etc. I think that exact process happened multiple times across the old world.
And it's not exactly weird that south American cannabis is from Asia. During the last ice age, Asia was connected to the Americas via Alaska/Canada and thats how people got there in the first place. I bet they brought seeds with them. For the fiber, effects etc.
africans traveled long before anyone. someway somehow all the past genetics i feel came from africa. and the different growing conditions over time soil content and growing method changed the genetics over time. love the show guys
I've heard that slaves snuck seeds over hidden in dreadlocks
That's because we've been indoctrinated the last 20 years to believe EVERYTHING is Afro-centric...
Which is absolutely FALSE.
Polynesian is the group your looking for
They brought the seeds from Asia to Central and South America
Got some beans haze like beans at least from how the structure is described, the lengthy flower time and very racy high. Doesn't seem to be Malawi, which was my first thought seeing it grown out but it was not a watermelon scented plant at all. It was very herbal and was very triched out. Not sure how terpinelaline smells like so can't really say if it's that. It takes about 26 weeks in flower. Breed it with some Barney's farm seed stock from 10 years ago while they still had the seed shaped pack. Got fem seeds still regret it because though I did find a male in a few packs I mostly used that long flowering plant as a male. Didn't know what i know now. Sad situation but we live and we learn. Appreciate this channel for all the incredibly useful information. Much love from Botswana
im in your area, can trade with some 2013 swazi gold, the one that popped up at ub. also have a few sort of super thin leafed and that smelly stuff we could not travel with from before 2012.
The rundown of the F1, Bx and stuff was really good explained!
I was chuck some pollen in the past but i will do it with goals now!
There is so much to learn about the topic and the whole history.
It is sooo hard to belive genetics are real if you not know the story behind it and the real people finding it!
That all should be on paper at some point, i would buy a book with all strain info, but how you make a 1000000 page book...🙈😂
Growers love 💚
I’m gonna convince the homies to write a collab book together once we get settled down
My buddies dad used to grow the chronic in the late 90s in missouri. He told me a story of coming out of the woods with 2 trash bags full of weed and a helicopter was spotlighting his truck. He got in it and just drove and drove and drove and eventually the helicopter flew off.
@91750fast been growing in these hills for a long time now, seen some spectacular stuff over the years.
This was fascinating. Thanks! I loved the explanation and in depth history of origins and trade around the world. I am particularly interested in landraces, heirloom styles of selection.
I’d like to hear more about that Maui cut NotSoDog has. If it’s the same Maui cut that went around upstate NY, around 98’, its absolute fire. The Maui is incredible!
I love the last comment about all the knowledge being on a level playing field
💜💜💜
Well I'm feeling very medicated so decided to hit some older shows again, this one got me thinking (in the beginning) when we started finding out what was food, medicine, etc in plants. I wonder how many peeps keeled over eating the wrong plant and how did the info it get from one area to another to not eat "that plant lol.
I been meaning to say it for a while...Shit Notso and my Cuz look like doppelgangers. Was Notso a milkman in his hey days? lmfao 😂
Hey boys.. The first person selling selfed seeds, Sam arrived with S1's so whoever he bought seeds off
Mmhmm - possible. Would be nice to get the same answers out of David twice for folks
love the pause at 1:10:06 ..the face of when you find out you have pollen contamination..😉😍😎
You could grow the New years Haze here in the Tampon. It's so fuckin humid and rainy until mid Sept. Those late flowering Sativa strains would jam out with their clams out if you had a place to grow those trees!
Wow y’all dudes ganja history is crazy, love to listen 🎧 y’all spit game 🤩
Sorry for being long with it but I want to give a hats off to the old school guy come because he was not rude you cannot argue knowledge which is learned or acquired with the things that you have access to but wisdom is it from God and usually seen through nature which unfortunately means older people have more likelihood of knowing how to do more things the original way might not be fast or the most seen but you don't need a lot of the gadgets and these methods still work strongly today just remember there was a day when the US denied the new anything about this but if you were from the fifties you understood that the government had people to grow cannabis it's a long story but they went back and forth because they can control the money so you guys keep doing your thing because without these younger guys us older guys will die with the knowledge we have but it's up to you younger guys to accept and research what we tell you or not otherwise if we don't learn from history the first time it will repeat itself and some of these lineages will be gone forever
A Real History on the original herijunia strain would be thought provoking imo.
Great show
👌 top notch information!
The scarcity of genetics is the same in dogs. You won't find 80s Neapolitan Mastiffs now but if you cross it to another breed that F1 can get close.
I laughed so fucking hard. Such great conversation.
Notso a lot of us in the PNW want your Chem D most of what you like there are a bunch in the NW that love your mind on herb. Matt i love your pov on many things especially Blueberry. Whats your top 10?
Agreed on green usually being stronger than purples even here. There are exceptions though I've not seen a solid purple thats Very strong compared to the partially purple stuff.
Purple has pain relief properties that are useful medically imo. The early purps at least the good good that made it back east was very strong. It was mostly Widow crosses. Big Surx Widow was my jam back in 2001. It was definitely purple but bright purp not the deep U W or Rare Darkness. Not like grape ape. Soo when I moved west I expected the purps to kick my ass. It didn't and I was confused. Most SD or OG is true enough Krippy AKa kind bud. Well grown versions at least. The Cookies lost me bro. Looks great but has to work. Moonbow al that sucks. I avoid purps now. GMO sorta works but it's the taste that gets you. What these guys are saying is legit. Cookies unless it's extreme sativa crossed in or half inbred OG cross doesn't work. The indica craze to me is people smoking to not get high at all. Doesn't make any sense. It's like an edgy thing for an image. I want the herb to work. Yes indices I love them too but only if they work. Mazar , NL all of the NL hell Glue works although Noone really knows Chem Sis really. Idk man it's not the color it's the genetics. Bland high and tasty weed has cornered the market and these guys know what's up. It will shift. I will say Gary Payton is a good cross of that Kali Mist with Cookies. I dig it.
The 'cleaning' phase, on the Frisbee
Another excellent discussion, guys. Are you both sure you are not anthropologists or ethnohistorians =))! I am thoroughly enjoying your podcasts, Thanks!
I wish, man. Just a nerd who loves to read - as is notso. But we are just wildly passionate about making sure the real history isn’t lost. Always an uphill battle - any any commodities history the winners eventually write it.
Means a ton more coming from you my man
I have a first edition of M botany , back in the day
Great one to have
Polynesian people were the ones who brought the seeds from asia to South America
Wharram catamaran makes modern interpretation of the type of catamaran they built back then
and Columbus in his autobiography mentioned he was traveling to India to conquer (P)JeruSalem...when you know based on ancient historian accounts where India really was/is.
ty I learned a lot from thus interview @914
I been growing one strain here in Kentucky soil for at least 20yrs doesn't that make it a land race lol
Facts
What happen to the gabby interviews it had some nice gems
Still avail on audio
First off this is a great podcast however I'm at the section where you guys are discussing where most of the seeds are bred and the fact is that both of you guys are right according to how much knowledge you have unfortunately for the guy that feels 99% are bred inside is just incorrect because when you know more people that grow outside then you'll understand the secrecy is so that most people can believe what they wish because outside breeders and outside seeds are really where the health and medicinal parts of the plant come in because there are some grown more Terps etc etc versus a man-made light and that is also recorded in science we cannot be God so just remember even though you guys have different ideas everyone can win but you have to accept that everything is not what you think it might be and all these seeds are not 99% grown inside because if you grow a seed outside it is bigger most of the time more robust so for those breeders that grow outside not in a greenhouse and had to fight off bugs naturally they will understand what I'm saying those plants are more vigorous But as time goes on you are correct more people are doing it inside because it is cheaper and makes more sense for the system that wants to use this as recreational or a monetary type crop but this is not tobacco or alcohol so therefore there are many ways that this plant will be produced
Outdoors seedmaking being grown indoor have a higher chance of intersex stuff showing vs making seed indoor to outdoor. Most serious breeders and seedmakers know this by now just from hands on and experience. I think most seedmakers do make seeds outdoors. I think the very few people BREEDING know that indoor is the safest route for environmental control and for keeping the customer happy with much less of a chance on intersex traits showing from slight stress. Cheers and thanks for your comments brother!
I can't find part one...
Most importantly you'll see.....freenyotypes
Phenotypes
hey, this is so good. i love this podcast.
greetings from germany. we can, if politic dont fug up, grow three plants in april 24.
which seed should i choose?
shiva skunk or nothern light
As long as there from legit sources shiva skunk imo
hey thanks,
the first plant in my life will be the shiva skunk from sensi seeds.
love for you two, this storys are well done and fun to listen.
one question. there is a strain you and your host are taking about pain relief.
which strain was that?
for you it was a nerve pain. I think.
thanks
The early S Americans traded their sweet potatoes for that Polynesian kind bud
Do yous know anything about the XX Strain. I tried it as a teenager. I was told it's from the white family from Holland. Apparently it's a 'White' female cross with a pre 98 alhoe white widow. I tried it In Australia in 2010. Floral underarm terps. Never seen it again.
Thumbs-up...
So what would a Bx1thats been bread into itself called ? (Bx1-F2)? Bx1 IBL ? I’m not quite sure it’s not a Bx2 because it was never backed crossed a second time just the Bx1 males and females into them selves ???
Damn so Quintero’s method seems so be a good and bad thing in the long run then less bag seeds less new genetics 🧬
What is a R2 generation????
Egyptian mummies have tested positive for cocaine and nicotine, which are new world drugs.
Yo, Matt, can you help me on an international order? menu?
RiotseedcoEurope on Instagram is our euro contact as well as Riotseeds.com - we ship intl for now as well until we have our buddy fully stocked over there
Pakalolo out in the pacific islands. Chinese sailors c. 1420 landed in South America. Pacific islands was more psychedelic fungi, psychedelic fish, a type of "beer" and kava.
you guys might get the significance of corn...in the bible...corn was indigenous to the Americas...with that said cannabis and cocaine is also in the bible. The history of this plant/spice/calamus is something to say the least.
I saw an interview to Captain Jack. Seems to be that he was the first to bring the afghani into California. And the first seeds.
😂😂😂🥸 is about all I gotta say about that claim
Dude looks like Conor McGregor the weed grower
Hey Matt... Question i hear you guys talking about middle eastern landraces. anything about Jamaican landrace strains? i was gifted a bunch of open pollinated Jamaican landrace and im trying to figure out its history or what it is. and here in Ontario Canada we don't have geno type testing. i have a ton of pics of this ive grown over the yrs i acquired this strain during prohibition in early 2000's i don't know enough about landrace stuff but ive had this strain for over 20 yrs
No such thing unfortunatelyc they’re all imported lines, no landraces in that island
charles(reeferman)BreedForBarneysAround03to06
Ole reef made seeds? Wild.
Reef didn't move his operation over to Holland until around 06-07. He was running reefernan seeds out of Canada. He was selling through Mark Emery before then. Prairie fire ect.
The reefernan site started in 05.
He did produce some lines for Barneys after he moved to Holland. 💚