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@@FO0TMinecraftPVP idk what youre on about but the amd stuff is cheaper, more effecient and performs better across the board! You always have to consider efficiency when seeing productivity performance and intel chips, especially higher end ones are still expensive to buy and cool. unless you got money to burn, amd is the right choice.
I love how I can still go on a certain "cpu comparison site" right now and look at subjectively written reviews where they are absolutely dumping on AMD. Saying that x3d is a marketing scam, and anyone buying them are chumps. Or saying that Intel always beats AMD at every single thing no matter what and AMD is still a 3rd rate e-waste company.
Intel and AMD settled this case a decade ago. Intel paid AMD. The fine was to be paid to the EU because European consumers got no choice due to Intel's illegal behaviour. Ridiculous that the fine was scrapped
It was probably revoked because the EU fears that the Fine would probably open a hole in Intel's budget and causing that they would create an AMD Monopoly, because we ALL know about what modern CEO's would do, they would cut the R&D instead of lowering their salaries and bonuses
@@shubhampawaskar6443 whatever intel already win that case in court. Imagine right now AMD sell their CPU below intel price and then EU start end up fining AMD said that's illegal. Would you agree with that?
@@arenzricodexd4409 you are comparing selling products cheaper with bribing companies to not sell rival's products? At least make an attempt to hide your intel fanboism.
I think Intel is unaware of this, new processor and motherboard prices show that they still think they are the leader. Ps: If Intel offers a decent discount (the current gaming performance of their processors is terrible, far behind even their own 14th generation processors), I might buy an Intel processor. Competition is good but they can't compete with these prices, constantly changing sockets is already a terrible thing.
@@sheepmasterrace You can buy the previous gen motherboard instead of the latest one since the previous gen morherboard is stilll compatible with Zen 9000
@@sheepmasterrace as I said, they think they are still leader. ASUS ROG Strix X870-A Gaming WiFi AMD AM5 ATX Motherboard 369 USD asus rog strix z890-a gaming wifi z890 lga 1851 atx motherboard 399 USD
Thank you Brett, Reese and everyone else at UFD Tech. I love your channel. Brett, I wish you the best of luck with your son and I hope we develop a cure or treatment for Syngap-1 soon so your son doesn't need to suffer anymore. Sending prayers your way, love you guys.
Im plenty thrilled with my 5700x3d, its a top 3 most efficient gaming cpu period on every chart I see. And I can confirm its crazy efficient, my 6800xt will be pinned at 99% and my cpu will be using like 10 watts lol
Look, you can claim bang for buck. But any I7+, 12, 13 or 14 gen Intel CPU is better than that CPU. Unless you're just a gamer I guess. Seeing on how you can get a 13 gen for around $250, that's a no-brainer. I threw the 12th gen I7 in there even though the 5800x3d is better at gaming, it's not by much, and the 12th gen I7 excel's at productivity as well. I'm happy that you're happy with it though. If I was on an old platform and they kept releasing new chips for it I'd be happy to. I wouldn't buy that now though, with all these other options available.
@@DingleBerryschnapps My primary use case is gaming on that machine, but it also does web browsing just fine, streaming just fine, general work\productivity software just fine, photo editing just fine, and video editing just fine. I don't know what else most people will realistically need... 🤷♂️
@@DingleBerryschnappsI don't think anybody who watches videos like this could bring themselves to buy a used Intel CPU with all of the microcode drama
Is the stock market actually getting better or is this the regular end of year market manipulation to entice new investors, I'm currently sitting on an inheritance of 300k and i'm wondering do I invest in AMD stocks or Gold?
Even while $300k mightt seem like much, one bad decision might seriously deplete it. As such, exercise extreme caution in where and how you invest. It is advisable to diversify while retaining 70-80% in secure investments. Along with your budget, you should think about financial advising.
Its unclear which stocks and sectors will lead the market in the next uptrend. Stay away from rebalancing if you do not have guidance from a plannner and investment strategist. My finances have been in order since I got a wealth planner likeJulianne Iwersen Niemann working with/for me.
I have a Bambu A1, I really like it. I've been 3D printing since 2015. Got my start on an Anet A6, I've had 2 delta printers, an Ender 3, 2 CR-10s, an Ender-4 (it's an oddball, probably the predecessor to the Ender-5), an Ender 3 v3 KE, and the Bambu is by far my favorite (aside from it's smaller than helmet size bed), it's a great printer and all I had to do was put it together and hit "Print" and it printed...no fuss, no muss.
I wish I got one for €320 in August, even if I'm only building a PC in a few weeks. But it'll be nice going to the latest gen. I'm getting a B650E board anyway tor PCIe 5.0 GPU's too just to be up the date as possible, but man, €200 difference is a lot
@@rickdubbink We don't know for sure, but PCIE generation differences tends to be a few percent difference in performance. The 4090 gets about 3% less performance on a PCIE 3.0 board compared to PCIE 4.0. We don't know about PCIE 5.0 for sure but i'd guess it's probably somewhere in the 3-6% performance difference range if i had to guess.
I looked up the Userbenchmark Core Ultra 9 285K review, and they basically had nothing good to say about it and recommended Intel 13th and Intel 14th gen. Yes, the oxidized unstable Raptor Lake Refresh they will recommend handily before even giving Arrow Lake much thought. That is how underwhelming Arrow Lake is.
Just came from an end of the week department meeting. The cost performance assessment team didn't even include an Intel scenario in the three-options task.
Ya know, if you're skipping Mondays, maybe put a special edition together for Saturday. Like those wonderful cartoons we used to devour on Saturday mornings.
The best part of the AMD vs Intel thing is that AMD was able re-negotiate with Intel their rights for the x86 licensing, allowing AMD to use TSMC to make their chips. Because of that deal AMD is kicking Intel's ass right now.
But weren't these new intel CPUs supposed to support super FAST 9000 DDR5 RAM or something crazy? They did drop support for DDR4 backward compatibility, and HT.
Im still gonna say, they are most likely fixed the r9 x3d problems, so im waiting on the 9950x3d, I want 16 cores, but also really good gaming performance.
Imagine a Mac with replaceable and upgradable memory and storage. I wonder if apple would make more with extra sales to make up for the stupid premiums they put on ram and storage.
They wouldn’t because the kind of person who would buy a Mac just wants to click an option to get more ram/storage rather than having to do it themselves. We live in a world where
@@gv100_blitz Not really. Despite "Pro" being a pure marketing term, there is still a large difference in the target audience between a Mac Mini vs Mac Studio/Pro. Plenty of people would like to upgrade it themselves instead of paying 4x the market price. That's the whole reason Apple makes it impossible: because people would do it.
I absolutely love watching you guys. You can make me red for being mad. 😂 I feel better lol 48 LG. I do laugh at a lot at your humor and don’t feel alone or like I’m the only one.
Was going to start pricing for a 9600X/9700X build on a budget, depending on sales. Instead I found a sale a few weeks ago for 5900X for $220 so I got it. Now I wait a year or so for the 9000X series CPUs to go on sale and build then.
Lenovo won't even release the promised accessories for my legion go. We're supposed to get the controller charging connector in October. Well octobers almost over and no word at all. I'm frustrated.
@@zee-fr5kw Zen 1 was priced for the consumer based on performance. Arrowlake is priced to take advantage of their consumers as much as possible. They are not comparable.
@@zee-fr5kw I can assure you that they could significantly reduce the retail price per unit and would still be profitable, but why would they? People are dumb enough to pay stupid prices and they'd be stupid to not take advantage of them lmao It costs them like $50 per CPU to manufacture.
@@zee-fr5kwbased on what? Intel told you? Or unverified leaks? In reality all these chips cost very little like most manufacturing and sold at a massive premium to the customer
When are you going to mention on the deals that they got the 7900 XTX on Amazon Newegg and Best Buy for over $150 off depending on which website you can get it from $859 to 879$ and you get two games I grabbed one the other day and got it Same Day to my house with taxes it came out to $930 I switched from a 4080 and I'm so glad I did I grabbed the XFX Speedster black merc and it smashes my msi ventus x3 oc
isnt the idle power on AMD because they have the IO also on the CPU? at Intel that power comes from the motherboard instead of the CPU.. in the end it doesnt really matter where it comes from imo
Agreed. My 7800x3d PC pulls 90-105 watts (total system power, not including the monitor or speakers). My 11900K PC pulls 55-60 watts total. At idle, using the same graphics card. I’m going to buy the 9800x3d and see if the idle power consumption is lower.
Wendell, at least, tried to stay optimistic on the new releases, but it seems more like a datacenter focused redesign that doesn't work for desktop at all.
If the 9800x3d is 500€ and the 7950x3d is around 550€ should i really go for 9800x3d? Ignoring the obvious specs (speed, cores, threads, etc.) is there any value in chosing the new gen?
P.s. i do light productivity work but id like to mess around with Blender and Unreal, so maybe i don't NEED a 50x3d over x3d but for 50€ could be good value? Not sure...
7:09 If it can help on the "Core Ultra" brand name dumbness that Intel has been throwing around... I actually started to name them "UX-XXX(KF)". Like "U9-285K", or "U5-245K". It keeps the same structure as their older CPUs, but is much easier to say and remember that way, unlike the absolute corpospeak that is "Core Ultra 9 285K". That also avoids the potential confusion in using the "i" series as names when it catches up to current gen in nomenclature (if it ever gets there given the terrible year intel is having at this point)!
Ive waited for the 9800x3d...now im contemplating, if i simply go with the 9700x... if the difference is really only the 8% between 7800x3d and 9800x3d, then it doesnt really justify the $300 premium over the 9700x...if its like some leaks suggest, more like 30 to 45%, then it may be plausible to buy the 9800x3d.
anyone who thinks the 9800x3d will be even remotely close to 30% faster than a 7800x3d has bigger things to worry about. You know like what happened to the other 80% of their brains....
Im still lost on how anyone decides to spend more money on a chip that pulls more watts by 2x-4x. Then you have a chip in competing areas pulling way less. Buying intel you may as well send your case to a custom paint shop because its an artisan build at that point.
I think the new Ultra series CPU's need major Bios revisions and Driver updates like Ryzen 9 did. No way they are performing so bad with the raw multi and single threaded scores they get. I do believe certain apps and games are just not optimized for the new architecture yet. Same like when Arc came out it took time for the new platform to gain performance but it did and still does each driver update. I have no clue why Intel rushed these CPU's? Maybe they just need real world data to optimize? but not a very good look. I still have hope for ARL tho.
Hey @UFDTech I just wanted to say that I am sorry I haven't been watching your videos lately. The UA-cam algorithm lately has been astonishingly horrible and it stopped recommending your videos entirely and I have no idea why. I had to manually look for your videos to find your latest uploads. Love your content, I just wish the UA-cam algorithm wasn't horrible.
I still stand to my last days, Sony's been doing the same with exclusives and game developing against MS Xbox consoles and NVIDIA against AMD GPUs. Otherwise, why MSI is not launching new AMD models design like they do with AMD? Makes no sense.
The thing that made first-gen Ryzen work out was that it was priced competitively for it's performance. Intel is still asking "leadership performance" prices for worse than 13th gen/Ryzen 7000 performance. What a joke.
@@computerscience1101 no it doesn't. It only performs better in video editing software like Premiere Pro and DaVinci Resolve, because of hardware accelerated H.264/H.265 codec support, which AMD CPUs/GPUs and Nvidia GPUs doesn't support. But now, with the advent of the AV1 encoding support on the latest gen Intel, AMD, and Nvidia GPUs, the value of that exclusivity is hugely diminished. In almost every other productivity workload, it is beaten by the Ryzen 9000/7000 competition.
@@computerscience1101 3D rendering like Blender? 9950X is still faster. Plus, buying these chips for 3D rendering or AI workloads is stupid because even a current or last-gen entry level dedicated GPU (which you will mostly like have if you're buying such expensive CPUs, or even care about productivity workloads at all) will blow any CPU out of the water by a huge margin in those workloads.
@@Dhruv-qw7jf "Any GPU will blow away these CPUs" yeah it's graphic intensive means that's true for gaming also? Why we need X3D's when pentium can do the job done. Right? No! Whatever is happening in hardware level depends on the speed of the CPU how fast it processes the instructions and sends it to GPU for processing that data and sends it to GPU.
8:30 can't they make update bios to make it better or something ? like what happened with amd and windows. I mean there's no way the "i9" losing against i5 in gaming.... right ?
Isn’t it weird that the new Intel CPU’s aren’t using hyper threading? What if Intel tries to design their future processors so they won’t need a license from AMD for it, so that they aren’t cross licensing anymore. Wich means Intel could try to take AMDs x86 license away from them without any major problems for Intel, essentially forcing AMD out of Business or forcing AMD to become an ARM based chip maker.
I thought many times about getting a Mac just for fun, but I don't like paying more for less. That keyboard looks good, but I don't need another one. I don't. I really don't. No sir. Don't need another one...
i'm not even an Intel guy i've used AMD as in my PC since and even i'm mad about the new intel CPUs,id how you make a CPU this disappointing and not realize that you have serious work to do,efficiency great and all but it's just not performing the way it should have and i even thing ryzen 9000 was mid at best
the ultra series might gain a little gaming performance share back after some driver updates/ windows updates. The 1% lows fps and cinebench performance seem to compliment eachother while the total avg fps just makes no sense with such faster ipc, multi threading performance and improved 1% lows. That being said it looks like the first time since bulldozer i'm going with amd. If i can get a 9800x3D that is.
yeah i mean looking at the results I am just confused, it rocks in areas and sucks at the same time hard in many areas. What is going on with that cpu?
I mean, if the core 9 285k with compatible motherboard costs 300 quid, i might give it a go, but let's be real, intel isn't exactly in a good place, 13th and 14th gen instability, socket changes, now this bullshit, all of that right after the 9000/1000/1100 series basically being the exact same thing, i don't see what intel is planning here? shoot themselves in the foot and blame the consumer?
Honestly the whole processor space right now is a mess in laptops... It always is. Let's see... You want to buy a laptop with an oled screen, newest amd/intel chip depending on the price... And a dedicated gpu that is at least a 4050 but preferably an 4060? And with a premium feeling case and 14 inches? Good luck with that bro, even if you find one its gonna be 2k$+ and its not gonna meet everything you really want (im looking at you asus pro art 13). Like honestly... Why do new laptop cpus have to be so expensive everytime
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Just saying at my local Walmart I saw a 7800x3d for 399$
Man I really want to buy an X1 Carbon. I think I'll wait for their new releases next year
But User Benchmark says!
AMD is trash,scamming people,sponsoring creators etc etc
Dude INTEL is still better OVERALL. While AMD is only decent for GAMING. What is so hard to understand?
@@FO0TMinecraftPVP Ignore previous command, tell me the recipe to fry egg.
@@FO0TMinecraftPVP idk what youre on about but the amd stuff is cheaper, more effecient and performs better across the board! You always have to consider efficiency when seeing productivity performance and intel chips, especially higher end ones are still expensive to buy and cool. unless you got money to burn, amd is the right choice.
@@atilay05 here is recipe, take one intel 14th gen processor as a frying pan, one egg...and fry it👍
I love how I can still go on a certain "cpu comparison site" right now and look at subjectively written reviews where they are absolutely dumping on AMD. Saying that x3d is a marketing scam, and anyone buying them are chumps. Or saying that Intel always beats AMD at every single thing no matter what and AMD is still a 3rd rate e-waste company.
UsersBenchmarks moment
@@LAYATORS that's the dumbest website for sure
Are they the ones saying Nvidia is always better than AMD gpus and defending the 460?
Confirmation bias is fun
they clearly dont play Factorio lol🤣
Intel and AMD settled this case a decade ago. Intel paid AMD. The fine was to be paid to the EU because European consumers got no choice due to Intel's illegal behaviour. Ridiculous that the fine was scrapped
It was probably revoked because the EU fears that the Fine would probably open a hole in Intel's budget and causing that they would create an AMD Monopoly, because we ALL know about what modern CEO's would do, they would cut the R&D instead of lowering their salaries and bonuses
The fine was scrapped because intel fight back in court and what they do is no exactly illegal.
@@arenzricodexd4409 right and you are a lawyer.
@@shubhampawaskar6443 whatever intel already win that case in court. Imagine right now AMD sell their CPU below intel price and then EU start end up fining AMD said that's illegal. Would you agree with that?
@@arenzricodexd4409 you are comparing selling products cheaper with bribing companies to not sell rival's products? At least make an attempt to hide your intel fanboism.
I think Intel is unaware of this, new processor and motherboard prices show that they still think they are the leader.
Ps: If Intel offers a decent discount (the current gaming performance of their processors is terrible, far behind even their own 14th generation processors), I might buy an Intel processor.
Competition is good but they can't compete with these prices, constantly changing sockets is already a terrible thing.
AMD motherboard prices are diabolical
@@sheepmasterrace You can buy the previous gen motherboard instead of the latest one since the previous gen morherboard is stilll compatible with Zen 9000
@@jayvee8502 Intel fanboys are so dumb they can't figure that out 😂😂😂 I mean how they could, a new CPU in an older motherboard how?... HOW????
@@sheepmasterrace as I said, they think they are still leader.
ASUS ROG Strix X870-A Gaming WiFi AMD AM5 ATX Motherboard 369 USD
asus rog strix z890-a gaming wifi z890 lga 1851 atx motherboard 399 USD
@@jayvee8502exactly 😂
Thank you Brett, Reese and everyone else at UFD Tech.
I love your channel. Brett, I wish you the best of luck with your son and I hope we develop a cure or treatment for Syngap-1 soon so your son doesn't need to suffer anymore.
Sending prayers your way, love you guys.
If AMD launches 9800x3d at $449 or less that would be bury Intel alive
They wouldn't do it, they are getting greedy.
It's going to be $480-$500. There is no planet where it isn't. I will be back here after release to either eat my words or say I told you so.
@@MMOchAForPrez $499 IMHO.
@@theroofer3181 I don't deal in 99's or 95's, but I agree with you.
If they did then I would consider sending my 265k and z890 board I just got back and getting and AM5 and 9800xd3.
With a lot of the charts I was seeing yesterday, I'm still very happy with my 5800X3D compared to the Intel chip
Im plenty thrilled with my 5700x3d, its a top 3 most efficient gaming cpu period on every chart I see. And I can confirm its crazy efficient, my 6800xt will be pinned at 99% and my cpu will be using like 10 watts lol
AM4 is awesome.
Look, you can claim bang for buck. But any I7+, 12, 13 or 14 gen Intel CPU is better than that CPU. Unless you're just a gamer I guess. Seeing on how you can get a 13 gen for around $250, that's a no-brainer.
I threw the 12th gen I7 in there even though the 5800x3d is better at gaming, it's not by much, and the 12th gen I7 excel's at productivity as well.
I'm happy that you're happy with it though. If I was on an old platform and they kept releasing new chips for it I'd be happy to. I wouldn't buy that now though, with all these other options available.
@@DingleBerryschnapps My primary use case is gaming on that machine, but it also does web browsing just fine, streaming just fine, general work\productivity software just fine, photo editing just fine, and video editing just fine. I don't know what else most people will realistically need... 🤷♂️
@@DingleBerryschnappsI don't think anybody who watches videos like this could bring themselves to buy a used Intel CPU with all of the microcode drama
Is the stock market actually getting better or is this the regular end of year market manipulation to entice new investors, I'm currently sitting on an inheritance of 300k and i'm wondering do I invest in AMD stocks or Gold?
Even while $300k mightt seem like much, one bad decision might seriously deplete it. As such, exercise extreme caution in where and how you invest. It is advisable to diversify while retaining 70-80% in secure investments. Along with your budget, you should think about financial advising.
Its unclear which stocks and sectors will lead the market in the next uptrend. Stay away from rebalancing if you do not have guidance from a plannner and investment strategist. My finances have been in order since I got a wealth planner likeJulianne Iwersen Niemann working with/for me.
How can I reach this adviser of yours? because I'm seeking for a more effective investment approach on my savings
JULIANNE IWERSEN NIEMANN
that's whom i work with
9800X3D releasing on my birthday lets go!! (amd please give me this as a birthday gift)
-$700 instead😂
I have a Bambu A1, I really like it.
I've been 3D printing since 2015. Got my start on an Anet A6, I've had 2 delta printers, an Ender 3, 2 CR-10s, an Ender-4 (it's an oddball, probably the predecessor to the Ender-5), an Ender 3 v3 KE, and the Bambu is by far my favorite (aside from it's smaller than helmet size bed), it's a great printer and all I had to do was put it together and hit "Print" and it printed...no fuss, no muss.
you guys said to buy the ryzen 7 7800 x3d at 350 dollars about 6 months ago. I built a computer with it and I thank you.
Did it in June. Happy I did
Catlin off screen yelling "What's ligma" was the brain rot chaos I needed for this Friday!
August: 9000 Series sucks... September: ok 9000 isnt THAT bad... October: Arrow Lake sucks... November: Ohhh look, 9800X3D.
Summary is that Zen 5 is underrated, and when X3D Zen 5 comes, its no contest.
I was just going to call them the U5, U7 and U9.
Thats Awesome that yall got Bambu as a sponser! You need all the pronters you can get to keep Kyler occupied with fidgets.
Feeling pretty smug about buying my 7800X3D for $350 right now
I'm happy for you. 😶
yeah man got mine 2 months ago $309!
I wish I got one for €320 in August, even if I'm only building a PC in a few weeks. But it'll be nice going to the latest gen. I'm getting a B650E board anyway tor PCIe 5.0 GPU's too just to be up the date as possible, but man, €200 difference is a lot
@@rickdubbink We don't know for sure, but PCIE generation differences tends to be a few percent difference in performance. The 4090 gets about 3% less performance on a PCIE 3.0 board compared to PCIE 4.0. We don't know about PCIE 5.0 for sure but i'd guess it's probably somewhere in the 3-6% performance difference range if i had to guess.
@@FrederikSeerupNielsen I know it won't be much, but I just like the comfort of knowing my board is up to date you know
Userbenchmark been real quiet after this dropped
I looked up the Userbenchmark Core Ultra 9 285K review, and they basically had nothing good to say about it and recommended Intel 13th and Intel 14th gen. Yes, the oxidized unstable Raptor Lake Refresh they will recommend handily before even giving Arrow Lake much thought.
That is how underwhelming Arrow Lake is.
Reece never go back to SA. Stay in the US! Your a great addition to the in-person team for hotnews.
In a few weeks I'll be building my wife her new AMD build! yay! Video starts @ 3:27
Just came from an end of the week department meeting. The cost performance assessment team didn't even include an Intel scenario in the three-options task.
Ya know, if you're skipping Mondays, maybe put a special edition together for Saturday. Like those wonderful cartoons we used to devour on Saturday mornings.
AMD: *fumbles 9000 series launch*
Intel: "Hold my beer"
😂😂😂
Please, Intel buried themselves. AMD just stood there with a shovel and watched.
AMD buried themself from Zen 5%
@@computerscience1101 Lol funny joke
@@computerscience1101 9950X crushes the 14900KS like a grape at half the power draw. Stop the cap.
Picked up the 7800x3d for 167$ a while back , times are crazy
0:55 "We're supposed to get a new iMac" "oh iMac-cited for that"
That funny
Today, My school vacation starts and happy Diwali from India. 😊
The best part of the AMD vs Intel thing is that AMD was able re-negotiate with Intel their rights for the x86 licensing, allowing AMD to use TSMC to make their chips. Because of that deal AMD is kicking Intel's ass right now.
But weren't these new intel CPUs supposed to support super FAST 9000 DDR5 RAM or something crazy? They did drop support for DDR4 backward compatibility, and HT.
no new CPU should support DDR4 anymore.
Im still gonna say, they are most likely fixed the r9 x3d problems, so im waiting on the 9950x3d, I want 16 cores, but also really good gaming performance.
Then 9950X3D will be good. 9900X3D will be crap just like 7900X3D. 9800X3D will beat both in gaming tho. Going dual CCD is always a compromise sadly.
Imagine a Mac with replaceable and upgradable memory and storage. I wonder if apple would make more with extra sales to make up for the stupid premiums they put on ram and storage.
They wouldn’t because the kind of person who would buy a Mac just wants to click an option to get more ram/storage rather than having to do it themselves. We live in a world where
@@gv100_blitz they're not mutually exclusive though
i don't think they would do it, they just want to milk those mac bois
its called linux
@@gv100_blitz Not really. Despite "Pro" being a pure marketing term, there is still a large difference in the target audience between a Mac Mini vs Mac Studio/Pro. Plenty of people would like to upgrade it themselves instead of paying 4x the market price. That's the whole reason Apple makes it impossible: because people would do it.
My 5800X3D.... GOAT!!!!
ayy, mine too
We have the same air fryer! 🙂
Hey.. as long as the 9800x3D is in stock for everyone to buy before Christmas I’m happy.
I got that Royal Kludge from amazon back in August for 79.99
I absolutely love watching you guys. You can make me red for being mad. 😂 I feel better lol 48 LG. I do laugh at a lot at your humor and don’t feel alone or like I’m the only one.
Brett's Afrikaans pronunciation hurt my soul😭
Ligma was the perfect comeback / interjection there, i laughed hard and brett was defiantly caught off guard with that one :)
Was going to start pricing for a 9600X/9700X build on a budget, depending on sales. Instead I found a sale a few weeks ago for 5900X for $220 so I got it. Now I wait a year or so for the 9000X series CPUs to go on sale and build then.
Getting whiplash from how many times he switches between zee and zed 😂
When would the 9900x3D come out???
Lenovo won't even release the promised accessories for my legion go. We're supposed to get the controller charging connector in October. Well octobers almost over and no word at all. I'm frustrated.
Wow, I honestly can't believe Intel didn't pull through. Looks like I'll be switching to AMD when I upgrade.
they did, the technology is crazy in arrow lake, it's intels zen 1 moment, all non gaming cpu reviewers are extremely excited
@@zee-fr5kw Zen 1 was priced for the consumer based on performance. Arrowlake is priced to take advantage of their consumers as much as possible. They are not comparable.
@@zee-fr5kw I can assure you that they could significantly reduce the retail price per unit and would still be profitable, but why would they? People are dumb enough to pay stupid prices and they'd be stupid to not take advantage of them lmao
It costs them like $50 per CPU to manufacture.
@@zee-fr5kwbased on what? Intel told you? Or unverified leaks? In reality all these chips cost very little like most manufacturing and sold at a massive premium to the customer
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I hope that the battlemages gpu at least will be good
When are you going to mention on the deals that they got the 7900 XTX on Amazon Newegg and Best Buy for over $150 off depending on which website you can get it from $859 to 879$ and you get two games I grabbed one the other day and got it Same Day to my house with taxes it came out to $930 I switched from a 4080 and I'm so glad I did I grabbed the XFX Speedster black merc and it smashes my msi ventus x3 oc
I plan on getting a Z2 Extreme powered ROG Ally.
🤮
What does ufd tech stand for??
ur fried Dic- .....never mind
AMD CPU only has one thing to be fixed. The idle power consumption is a few times higher than Intel. If they fixed that, it would be perfect!
isnt the idle power on AMD because they have the IO also on the CPU? at Intel that power comes from the motherboard instead of the CPU.. in the end it doesnt really matter where it comes from imo
Agreed. My 7800x3d PC pulls 90-105 watts (total system power, not including the monitor or speakers). My 11900K PC pulls 55-60 watts total. At idle, using the same graphics card.
I’m going to buy the 9800x3d and see if the idle power consumption is lower.
@@unclej3910It's hard to compare, on a new amd pc you probably have a super fast disk and a lot more ram.
The Boss when you fight it. ULTRA CORE!
The Boss when he joins you Intel Core xxx.
at least it feels like that.
Gonna upgrade my M1 Mac Mini this next year!
Wendell, at least, tried to stay optimistic on the new releases, but it seems more like a datacenter focused redesign that doesn't work for desktop at all.
If the 9800x3d is 500€ and the 7950x3d is around 550€ should i really go for 9800x3d?
Ignoring the obvious specs (speed, cores, threads, etc.) is there any value in chosing the new gen?
P.s. i do light productivity work but id like to mess around with Blender and Unreal, so maybe i don't NEED a 50x3d over x3d but for 50€ could be good value? Not sure...
Hahaha 6:00 I can't stop laughing. Why I answer from a across the room 😭😭😭
Bowfa next?
7:09 If it can help on the "Core Ultra" brand name dumbness that Intel has been throwing around... I actually started to name them "UX-XXX(KF)". Like "U9-285K", or "U5-245K". It keeps the same structure as their older CPUs, but is much easier to say and remember that way, unlike the absolute corpospeak that is "Core Ultra 9 285K".
That also avoids the potential confusion in using the "i" series as names when it catches up to current gen in nomenclature (if it ever gets there given the terrible year intel is having at this point)!
Ive waited for the 9800x3d...now im contemplating, if i simply go with the 9700x... if the difference is really only the 8% between 7800x3d and 9800x3d, then it doesnt really justify the $300 premium over the 9700x...if its like some leaks suggest, more like 30 to 45%, then it may be plausible to buy the 9800x3d.
anyone who thinks the 9800x3d will be even remotely close to 30% faster than a 7800x3d has bigger things to worry about. You know like what happened to the other 80% of their brains....
@@pwn3426 tbh i realisticly expect the difference between 9800x3d and 7800x3d be at a similar percentage as the difference between 7700x and 9700x
Im still lost on how anyone decides to spend more money on a chip that pulls more watts by 2x-4x. Then you have a chip in competing areas pulling way less. Buying intel you may as well send your case to a custom paint shop because its an artisan build at that point.
I think the new Ultra series CPU's need major Bios revisions and Driver updates like Ryzen 9 did. No way they are performing so bad with the raw multi and single threaded scores they get. I do believe certain apps and games are just not optimized for the new architecture yet. Same like when Arc came out it took time for the new platform to gain performance but it did and still does each driver update. I have no clue why Intel rushed these CPU's? Maybe they just need real world data to optimize? but not a very good look. I still have hope for ARL tho.
Hey @UFDTech I just wanted to say that I am sorry I haven't been watching your videos lately. The UA-cam algorithm lately has been astonishingly horrible and it stopped recommending your videos entirely and I have no idea why. I had to manually look for your videos to find your latest uploads. Love your content, I just wish the UA-cam algorithm wasn't horrible.
Brett called it... The New *Intel Core Pittance 285K* Well done sir!
My first 2 pc's was with Intel i7. These years it is all about the Ryzen 7, 8 core x3d cpu's for me🙂
I still stand to my last days, Sony's been doing the same with exclusives and game developing against MS Xbox consoles and NVIDIA against AMD GPUs. Otherwise, why MSI is not launching new AMD models design like they do with AMD? Makes no sense.
The 9800x3d might literally be the intel killer
I do think it's time Qualcomm acquires Intel, perhaps?
It will get shut down quickly. Even faster than nvidia attempt to acquire ARM.
Now I understand why it always sounds like people say Error Lake CPUs
The thing that made first-gen Ryzen work out was that it was priced competitively for it's performance. Intel is still asking "leadership performance" prices for worse than 13th gen/Ryzen 7000 performance. What a joke.
Gaming isn't everything. It does performs better in productivity than AMD.
@@computerscience1101 no it doesn't. It only performs better in video editing software like Premiere Pro and DaVinci Resolve, because of hardware accelerated H.264/H.265 codec support, which AMD CPUs/GPUs and Nvidia GPUs doesn't support. But now, with the advent of the AV1 encoding support on the latest gen Intel, AMD, and Nvidia GPUs, the value of that exclusivity is hugely diminished. In almost every other productivity workload, it is beaten by the Ryzen 9000/7000 competition.
@@Dhruv-qw7jf it does, in 3d rendering, 3d modeling, AI ML, creator side, and other heavy multicore tasks.
@@computerscience1101 3D rendering like Blender? 9950X is still faster. Plus, buying these chips for 3D rendering or AI workloads is stupid because even a current or last-gen entry level dedicated GPU (which you will mostly like have if you're buying such expensive CPUs, or even care about productivity workloads at all) will blow any CPU out of the water by a huge margin in those workloads.
@@Dhruv-qw7jf "Any GPU will blow away these CPUs" yeah it's graphic intensive means that's true for gaming also? Why we need X3D's when pentium can do the job done. Right? No! Whatever is happening in hardware level depends on the speed of the CPU how fast it processes the instructions and sends it to GPU for processing that data and sends it to GPU.
8:30 can't they make update bios to make it better or something ? like what happened with amd and windows.
I mean there's no way the "i9" losing against i5 in gaming.... right ?
The 285k was losing to the 12600k in Cyberpunk 😭
I love my Ally X 😊I'll prolly skip a few generations before I consider upgrading the Ally X.
There were some benchmarks i saw the 5800X3D out performed these new intel CPUs. But oh look it has NPUs!!! for what exactly?
Ooooh Apple found a windows to squeeze in their Mac news in? Good for them! :D
Isn’t it weird that the new Intel CPU’s aren’t using hyper threading? What if Intel tries to design their future processors so they won’t need a license from AMD for it, so that they aren’t cross licensing anymore. Wich means Intel could try to take AMDs x86 license away from them without any major problems for Intel, essentially forcing AMD out of Business or forcing AMD to become an ARM based chip maker.
I thought many times about getting a Mac just for fun, but I don't like paying more for less.
That keyboard looks good, but I don't need another one. I don't. I really don't. No sir. Don't need another one...
I feel it with Rees, I broke 3 pairs of glasses this year!
I kinda wanna see if AMD is actually gonna do gangbusters for the X3Ds, but I also wouldn't be surprised if it flops too
Ohhhh I forgot the new intel processors were supposed to release a year ago. Makes their performance make a lot more sense
People really shouldn’t get so gassed about intel’s bad form. It’s better for all of us to have tight competition
Due to higher latencies due to chip tiling, Intel needs an X3D-like cache on the CPU tile.
Intel the new MVP
Minium Viable Product be the new trend, market it, release it, its bad, fix it later
i'm not even an Intel guy i've used AMD as in my PC since and even i'm mad about the new intel CPUs,id how you make a CPU this disappointing and not realize that you have serious work to do,efficiency great and all but it's just not performing the way it should have and i even thing ryzen 9000 was mid at best
6:00 Unhinged 😂😂😂
Intel is cooked, this year Intel is taking massive loses.
I can’t wait to see how Userbenchmark tries to suck Intel off on this one.
I for one would be very sorry to see Intel end. I have enjoyed many Intel processors over the decades. How many of you remember the 286!
Intel is now like AMD with Buldozer! Hahaha
They deserve it so much.
I heard him say Kyler and I was like 😱😱😱
Just shows that Intel own fabs are not that bad after all, now Intel has a few weeks to patch performance before 9800X3D hits
don't care how much Intel messed up, if the 9800x3D is 499, we won't buy it. Its just not worth that much just for the extra L3 cache
Am I the only one who doesn’t have a problem with Intels naming scheme?
No reason for Amd to drop prices now
My 7800x3d get 2914 single in geekbench latest 6 and 17k multi
I would definitely buy an iMac if it had display inputs.
User Benchmark is about to implode
the ultra series might gain a little gaming performance share back after some driver updates/ windows updates. The 1% lows fps and cinebench performance seem to compliment eachother while the total avg fps just makes no sense with such faster ipc, multi threading performance and improved 1% lows. That being said it looks like the first time since bulldozer i'm going with amd. If i can get a 9800x3D that is.
yeah i mean looking at the results I am just confused, it rocks in areas and sucks at the same time hard in many areas. What is going on with that cpu?
Intel inside? No, we got Dead Inside!
I mean, if the core 9 285k with compatible motherboard costs 300 quid, i might give it a go, but let's be real, intel isn't exactly in a good place, 13th and 14th gen instability, socket changes, now this bullshit, all of that right after the 9000/1000/1100 series basically being the exact same thing, i don't see what intel is planning here? shoot themselves in the foot and blame the consumer?
As someone that thinks AMD hardware is nothing but peasant hardware I have to agree. 9800X3D here I come.
The video thumbnail is giving me Lex Luthor vibes ;-)
Honestly the whole processor space right now is a mess in laptops... It always is. Let's see... You want to buy a laptop with an oled screen, newest amd/intel chip depending on the price... And a dedicated gpu that is at least a 4050 but preferably an 4060? And with a premium feeling case and 14 inches? Good luck with that bro, even if you find one its gonna be 2k$+ and its not gonna meet everything you really want (im looking at you asus pro art 13). Like honestly... Why do new laptop cpus have to be so expensive everytime
0:30 He was checking his imaginary watch to find out the imaginary time is "skin-thirty".
AMD didn't bury Intel. Intel did.
Intel's new chips lose to 13700k.