@Mr7Reality I was just thinking this, it's what brought me to watch this. The "Was it worth it?!" Doesn't particularly fit with the story up to this point. This story is incredible.
@Mr7Reality I'm not sure if it's lying so much as straight up repression, a lot of people do that after trauma. I think in his rage of the moment he was able to remember some fractioned fault he assigned, but then lost it once he came to... Kind of like a dissociation. His genuine desire to help her get all the answers makes me think he wasn't intentionally trying to conceal anything, which goes with the rest of the story of the mind protecting itself. Going back to your first point though... Deep down, I think he knew, and feared it to be true.
@Mr7Reality Yeah good point. He also probably wouldn't fully know where the truth began and Comstock's deception ended. A lot going on in the scene. So good.
paradisecityX0 That's not irony. If you went into the movie expecting the best thing since Christ because of all the critical acclaim it's garnered, then that's your own damn fault. Saying that something's "overrated" invariably makes it sound like "Everyone who likes this is wrong! Everyone has a stronger feeling about this is wrong and I'm right!"
Daniel Plainview Not really, overrated means something gets more credit than it deserves. You don't have to flip out, it wasn't bad, it just wasn't "great" imo (certainly not Godfather great). I thought it was pretty average compared to many other westerns and there are far better movies out there (but I guess there's something I missed).
He's been fighting himself this whole time. This version of Columbia is madness. Wonder what the Demo version of Comstock would have been like if he wasn't Booker. There has to be a reality where Columbia isn't a dead end. Just having this city to appear in one game would feel a little off since Rapture had two main games. Just a thought.
What's interesting about this scene is I think part of Booker before he went to Columbia comes out here. The regretful father who sold his child is released and kills Comstock for what he did to his daughter. He doesn't even know it yet but I think he's furious for what Comstock did to Elizabeth. In Episode 1 Elizabeth uses the struggle to make Comstock remember his own struggle with Anna. I think Booker remembers here for a few seconds his own struggle with Comstock and takes out his rage that was built up for 20 years on him. It's almost the same thing Elizabeth does to Comstock in BAS part 1, she kills Comstock brutally because of having to drown Booker. Booker kills Comstock for loosing Anna, Elizabeth kills Comstock for loosing Booker. Both of them take their revenge too far because they lost each other.
When you put it like that, it makes a lot of sense and the irony is so strong. In the end, they seem to have mirrored each other even with their ending.
This must be one of the few games where the plot actually gets better on the second playthrough. All of Booker's dialogue, hearing it knowing the reveal, is just perfect.
At first, I thought booker was going to be an absolute jerk to Elizabeth. This scene proved to me Booker cared about her. He loved her like a daughter. As if she was...😉
@@maruf7956 She killed this Booker to prevent Comstocks (aka smother him in his "crib", said crib being the Baptism. However, there apparently was a Comstock that exists (but reverted to the Booker identity so Elizabeth set out to kill this last Comstock, hence the second death by Big Daddy. Booker himself exists, since he didn't go through with the baptism, hence the epilogue ending where he checks on Anna
@@dadkwashere one comstock that went to rapture he was good. He understood his mistakes and even tried to save his adopted daughter so killing him was unnecessary
"DeWitt, I'm a fool. I've sent mighty armies to stop you, I've rained fire from above!" Story of every main villain. I find it amusing cause he points out how pointless it was to stop Booker.
Has anyone ever realized that when Booker snaps and tell's him "He's your daughter you son of a bitch" Comstock is surprised? It's so fast and so very subtle that you can clearly see it. But thanks to this this could give a whole new meaning to his dying words "It is finished". Maybe Comstock has been assumed Eli will be broken after leaning the truth about Booker and will be still finish the prophecy one way or the other. Not sure it's true but I think this is fucking genius. Whoever says this game is stupid/boring/doesn't makes sense is either didn't paid attention or not smart enough to understand.
Krisztian Bari Another irony is Booker kills Comstock by drowning in a baptism pile and later Booker died drowned in the same place where Combstock gets baptized.
Daniel Gaxiola Lugo Right and even the Songbird who acted like a father to Elisabeth died in the water. I find it really interesting how the story killed everyone this way who has been a guardian or a father to Beth.
Ali Sallam *SPOILERS* Yes, Booker DeWitt and Zachary Hale Comstock are the same person, from two alternate realities. The reason Booker's nose bleeds is because he is not meant to be in that reality.
People dislike the end cuz many of them dont understand it. Well lets be honest, i had to read some topics on web to get it too. But once u fully understand it, its awesome and happy end at all.
NexDroid It's unfortunate that some people don't like what they don't understand, without even bothering to try to understand it. This was a masterful twist. Levine has a great imagination.
pbl2519 No, they just have never let Comstock to exist. But in another dimensions, where Booker didnt accept a baptism, they still live together, cuz there is no one who will kidnap Anna. Its great ending.
no.. that's the point of the story. The Booker and Elizabeth that were shown in this plot never existed after Comstock died. Yes, Booker and Anna exists in another dimension but the characters we personally played didn't exist after the ending. It's a good ending but not happy.
in this case murder since Comstock and Booker have existed as seperate entities, even though they were one and the same at the very beginning, and thus can each survive the demise of the other
The moment when he intervenes with Comstock's hold on Elizabeth just sticks with me, right until he drowns him, its the voice acting, I like how genuinely passionate Troy Baker sounds.
SPOILER The sad thing about Bioshock Infinite is that Elizabeth ceases to exist at the end. and only anna exist, the elizabeth that has been with you all this time is gone, cus you killed yourself after you accepted the batism (actually it was Comstock how died, the you who refused the batism still exist) and with Comstock dead, there's no Elizabeth in the tower, Booker would not have to sell anna. If you listen carefully during the ending, everytime an Elizabeth dissapears from a certain world, a piano key chimes, signalling the end of existence for that Elizabeth. Right after the camera fades to black, you hear one final "plink", indicating that the last Elizabeth ceases to exist, and everything in Bioshock Infinite never happens. Because the "Adult Elizabeth" that has powers all dissapear, and only Anna who didn't was sold (Cus comstock don't exist anymore) will exist, and Anna will never be like Elizabeth.
***** The One who was drowned was the Booker how was baptized (How later turns in Comstock), she drowning Comstock before the baptism destroy every possibility of the events in Bioshock from happening. Comstock and Booker lives in different dimensions, each characterize his options in the baptism, rejecting will create Booker, Accepting will create Comstock, two different dimensions, Comstock Died, Booker still alive. The booker that you play in is the booker that didn't accept the baptism. Only Elizabeth would cease to exist, anna would still exist. Elizabeth is a personality created from the point she was selled to comstock, the personality that was trapped inside a tower and etc... Anna is a new born baby, as comstock died drowned, Elizabeth will never exist cus anna won't be selled to Comstock and wouldn't be trapped in a tower, she also won't learn her powers, and her personality will be completely diffent, like a different person.
@@battletoads8922 Because Burial at Sea happens, it causes some confusion with Anna and her character. At the start of Burial at Sea it's shown that there was, at least one Booker DeWitt still alive. But he was really a Comstock who wanted to forget his past transgressions. In this Comstocks reality, during the scene where Booker and Comstock are fighting to pull Anna through the temporal portal, her head was cut off instead of her Pinky. Comstock goes to Rapture to forget his life and continue on as Booker DeWitt. But an Elizabeth also comes to Rapture to ensure he not only remembers but to make sure he pays for what he did to her alternate self. That's how part 1 ends. But part 2 starts with Elizabeth in Paris, who goes to Rapture to save a little girl named Sally that she used as a means to an end to get revenge on Comstock. When she gets there. she learns that the Elizabeth from the first part died and that she (Part 2 Elizabeth) retained Part 1's memories. She also learned that if an Elizabeth goes to a world where Elizabeth already existed, then she loses her powers, and becomes a normal girl. But given that Burial at sea shows 2 Elizabeth's still alive even after the events of Bioshock Infinite, it suggests that there are still many more Elizabeth's and possibly even more Booker DeWitts and Comstocks still alive. The ending of Bioshock Infinite means nothing, except that we saw how 1 story ends. But Elizabeth, Booker, and Comstock all still exist.
Not going to lie, I just finished the game today and when Booker said, "You cut off her finger, and you put it on me!" I thought that Booker had gotten digit replacement surgery. Completely understood the ending, though.
"She´s your daughter you son of a bitch! And you abandoned her! Was it worth it? Huh? Did you get what you wanted? Tell me! Tell me!" holy shit, looking at it after finishing the game is like if he knew unconsciously he was telling that to himself, this game is absolute gold!
indeed, even Rosalind said in one Voxophone that the tears Comstock used for his "prophecies" only show POSSIBILITIES, not CERTAINTIES. his "indoctrinate Elizabeth to drown the mountains of man in flames" plan can only happen if he MAKES it happen.
I think you don't actually know what absolute freedom really is or what it can do. Freedom is blindly preached by so many because it can be used by the evil and power corrupt to do whatever the hell they want without justice, just like every antagonist in the Bioshock series has done very clearly. Everyone deserves the freedom to form their own opinions and philosophies, as long as they are based on evidence and not biases or hatred of any kind. Not a single living being can be trusted with the freedom to act without receiving appropriate justice and criticism, as that goes against the meaning of it. Just look at all the dictators around the world, they have been given absolute freedom to act without criticism or equality, isn't that a good thing?
Say what you will about the BioShock series, but every main villain in the game dies in such a satisfying way. Andrew Ryan is beaten to death with a golf club, Atlas/Fontaine is stabbed to death by the Little Sisters, Sofia Lamb is drowned by her own daughter (depending on the choices you make in BioShock 2), and finally Comstock gets his skull cracked open followed by him being drowned. Give me a minute to enjoy the thought of these horrible (albeit fictional) people dying the deaths that they deserve.
@@elgranhermano8872the dude founded a racist dystopia where the prize for winning a raffle was getting the first stone to throw at an interracial couple 💀
Part of me is disappointed this wasn’t a more traditional boss fight. They could easily have Comstock in a specially customized Handyman suit. Plus, since he was stricken with cancer. It would have made sense in story.
@@elgranhermano8872 Those were disappointing as well. At least in Ryan's case, it had ludonarrative reasons,for the other two...they were just too lazy to design a boss fight.
@@elgranhermano8872 At the very least, it was a proper traditional boss fight, I.E. you fight a boss and not just another wave of enemies you've already fought plenty of times before.
Wow. I just realized Comstock's last words are "It is finished," which are the same last words as Jesus Christ right before he died on the cross in the Bible. Furthermore, when you're drowning him, the "AD" on Booker's hand is clearly visible. In game, it stands for Anna DeWitt, but A.D. is commonly used to refer to the Latin phrase "Anno Domini," which means "in the year of our lord." Sometimes, A.D. is also said to stand for "After Death". As in, after the death of Christ. Neat.
2K really knows how to twist the gamer's mind. Just like in Spec Ops The Line where you taught you're the hero but you are actually the villain. Criminally underrated video game company.
I felt that this death is not only ironic and also symbolic since Comstock Booker's past eventually caught up with him that he desperately tried to run away from with Religion...
Was I the only one that went “….huh.” right after seeing Booker’s nosebleed once he killed Comstock? Low key impressed that I put it together on the spot (at least the Comstock part). While Bioshock 1’s story and atmosphere is goatee, I admit the story grew on me and the ending was very clever as I just finished it. Not just because of what you find out, but how well it was put together and tied things together throughout the game.
The holy messenger of any prophet. It's a lot easier than explaining to the people, "I went back in time and space, kidnapped my own daughter (sorta), and now she is a multidimensional being with obscene powers because we frankensteined her as soon as we got back." More or less. If Booker gets nosebleeds when remembering Comstock's memories then it follows that the reciprocal should be true too. So it's a little of Comstock's own actions and transdimensional memory transference. Or whatever...
Comsock isn't Booker from the future, he's an alternate Booker from another timeline completely. Basically, in one timeline Booker accepted a baptism and in the other, he didn't. In the one where the baptism was rejected, Booker had Anna. In the one where he accepted, Booker became Comstock, founded Colombia, found a way into unbaptized Booker's dimension, and took his daughter from him. Booker gave himself the scar because he regretted giving Anna to Comstock.
"She's your daughter, you son of a bitch and you abandoned her!" I've beaten the game a few times and I missed the foreshadowing with that line. Once you find out the truth in the ending.
The fact that he simply accepted his fate was not very satisfying at all, to me. It would have been more satisfying if he tried to defy dying and fought you back.
this entire story is so fascinating. but I Comstock should've known Booker would stop at nothing to protect Elizabeth seeing as technically they are the same persistent person and all
After finishing Burial at Sea Episode 2, I realized something. Maybe Comstock knew more than he's letting on, or at least in riddles. "Seed of the Prophet, shall sit the throne and drown in flame the Mountains of Man.." In Episode 2, Elizabeth seems to be playing the role of the 'Prophet', Jack is the 'Seed' she's sowing, who then 'sit the throne' (as in being brought on to the airplane by Fontain/Atlas) and 'drown in flame the Mountain of Man' is Jack's eventual arrival back to Rapture, setting in motion of the first game. Maybe that's why he imprisoned her in the tower all this time, to prevent the end of the Episode 2. Her true Future.
apparently you get stronger, faster, and smarter. In the upcoming DLC, booker will start traveling to parallel universes to hunt down his other selves so that he can become... THE ONE!!!
This scene gets a lot more emotional once you beat the game and figure out that Booker is both figuratively and literally lashing out at himself.
@Mr7Reality I was just thinking this, it's what brought me to watch this. The "Was it worth it?!" Doesn't particularly fit with the story up to this point. This story is incredible.
@Mr7Reality I'm not sure if it's lying so much as straight up repression, a lot of people do that after trauma. I think in his rage of the moment he was able to remember some fractioned fault he assigned, but then lost it once he came to... Kind of like a dissociation. His genuine desire to help her get all the answers makes me think he wasn't intentionally trying to conceal anything, which goes with the rest of the story of the mind protecting itself.
Going back to your first point though... Deep down, I think he knew, and feared it to be true.
@Mr7Reality Yeah good point. He also probably wouldn't fully know where the truth began and Comstock's deception ended. A lot going on in the scene. So good.
Interesting form of suicide.
he can't kill himself that's a paradox he killed the older Dewitt (Comstock)
Comstock isnt older, he just aged faster due to a tumor. Ms. Lutece says this in one of her recordings.
+Tauch Sieder it wasnt a tumor that was just an additional side effect it was from being constantly near tears which he used to make his "prophecies"
He killed different version of himself not his futureself so i don't know if its suicide
"Technically" is suicide killing yourself/another you (Same difference) from another youniverse.
"SHE'S YOUR DAUGHTER, YOU SON OF A BITCH, AND YOU ABANDONED HER!"
oh the irony
p.s. I'VE ABANDONED MY CHILD!
+Daniel Plainview Another irony: I just watched your movie the first time yesterday. Sooo overrated
paradisecityX0 That's not irony.
If you went into the movie expecting the best thing since Christ because of all the critical acclaim it's garnered, then that's your own damn fault. Saying that something's "overrated" invariably makes it sound like "Everyone who likes this is wrong! Everyone has a stronger feeling about this is wrong and I'm right!"
Daniel Plainview Not really, overrated means something gets more credit than it deserves. You don't have to flip out, it wasn't bad, it just wasn't "great" imo (certainly not Godfather great). I thought it was pretty average compared to many other westerns and there are far better movies out there (but I guess there's something I missed).
+Daniel Plainview I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE, ELI! I DRINK IT UP! *SHLLLUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRP*
Trust Nobody, Not Even Yourself
Galvatron Literally
Galvatron BioShock
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How?
*Booker punches the shit out of Comstock* "STOP HITTING YOURSELF, STOP HITTING YOURSELF"
mrmrmrwatermellon lmao
Booker: "You cut off her finger! And you put it on me!"
Me: *Claps*
*WELL ACTUALLY......*
That sounds so Indian😂😂😂
@@3bigbignig-abandoned what
@@bigtonybruiser It sounds Indian
@@3bigbignig-abandoned how so?
A MAN CHOOSES, A SLAVE OBEYS
DoughRayMe Would you kindly go to Ryan's office, and kill the son of a bitch?!
Wrong bioshock game
Nice work, boyo
@@MisterJohnDoe THERE AINT NO ATLAS KID. NEVER WAS
incognito BUT YOU’VE BEEN A SPOOORT. SO I GUESS I OWE YOU A LITTLE HONESTY
NAMES FRANK FONTAINE
Anyone else think Comstock sounds like, super nice and shit before he starts yelling?
Nick Lynch the point 3rd like
Nick Lynch Yep, once he starts yelling, i was shocked.
Comstock is a manipultor.
Red Coin “Cornhole”
I like that, not as much as “Cumsock” but it’s a good one none the less.
they really nailed that manipulative vibe
Thats how most evil people speak
That moment when you realise 1:59-2:07 is what has been repeating itself over and over again in Booker's mind for the past twenty years. :(
He's been fighting himself this whole time. This version of Columbia is madness. Wonder what the Demo version of Comstock would have been like if he wasn't Booker. There has to be a reality where Columbia isn't a dead end. Just having this city to appear in one game would feel a little off since Rapture had two main games. Just a thought.
Booker! Stop hitting yourself!
Hahahaha nice one
TOO SOON!!!
Comstock will die
What's interesting about this scene is I think part of Booker before he went to Columbia comes out here. The regretful father who sold his child is released and kills Comstock for what he did to his daughter. He doesn't even know it yet but I think he's furious for what Comstock did to Elizabeth.
In Episode 1 Elizabeth uses the struggle to make Comstock remember his own struggle with Anna. I think Booker remembers here for a few seconds his own struggle with Comstock and takes out his rage that was built up for 20 years on him.
It's almost the same thing Elizabeth does to Comstock in BAS part 1, she kills Comstock brutally because of having to drown Booker. Booker kills Comstock for loosing Anna, Elizabeth kills Comstock for loosing Booker. Both of them take their revenge too far because they lost each other.
When you put it like that, it makes a lot of sense and the irony is so strong.
In the end, they seem to have mirrored each other even with their ending.
I agree with what you said here, this game always finds a way to make people think doesn't it?
Yeah, when Booker said: “Was it worth it? Did you get what you want?” I can feel the self blame that he tried to sell his daughter.
Sorry kids, Christmas is cancelled!
Oh my god you killed santa clause!
lol XD
Well no more gifts that being drop to some roof square thing that stupid children belive :(
+kyle ancheta Roof square thing? Do you mean a chimney?
DragonToaster I JUST WHACTHED ANDREW RYAN GETTING KILLED AND A COMMENT SAID JACK KILLED WALT DISNEY AND NOW THIS well it was a good joke so well done
Rip santa
Rip hershel
RIP ZZ Top
It's weird when you realize he's only 38.
The Tears gave him cancer and aged him rapidly from overuse :/
Kanna Racist Santa, lol. Also, I met Hershel at comicon, dude's awesome.
Dat looked like my grand daddy D:
1:59 Booker... it's bad to insult your mother...
This must be one of the few games where the plot actually gets better on the second playthrough.
All of Booker's dialogue, hearing it knowing the reveal, is just perfect.
At first, I thought booker was going to be an absolute jerk to Elizabeth. This scene proved to me Booker cared about her. He loved her like a daughter.
As if she was...😉
But Elizabeth don't care about booker considering she killed him twice
One in main game and one in DLC
@@maruf7956 She killed this Booker to prevent Comstocks (aka smother him in his "crib", said crib being the Baptism.
However, there apparently was a Comstock that exists (but reverted to the Booker identity so Elizabeth set out to kill this last Comstock, hence the second death by Big Daddy.
Booker himself exists, since he didn't go through with the baptism, hence the epilogue ending where he checks on Anna
@@dadkwashere one comstock that went to rapture he was good.
He understood his mistakes and even tried to save his adopted daughter so killing him was unnecessary
@@maruf7956 Yeah, I think that by that point Elizabeth was just being as a jerk more than Comstock himself was
@@anonymus5637
Same
I was annoyed that Elizabeth did that
Was it really necessary Elizabeth?
No, no it wasn't
"DeWitt, I'm a fool. I've sent mighty armies to stop you, I've rained fire from above!"
Story of every main villain. I find it amusing cause he points out how pointless it was to stop Booker.
To enter the city, officials slam Booker into the water.
To exit the city, Booker drowns the leader in water.
There's A LOT more to it than just that
To free his mind, Booker drowns himself in water
Elizabeth's drown booker.
Has anyone ever realized that when Booker snaps and tell's him "He's your daughter you son of a bitch" Comstock is surprised? It's so fast and so very subtle that you can clearly see it. But thanks to this this could give a whole new meaning to his dying words "It is finished". Maybe Comstock has been assumed Eli will be broken after leaning the truth about Booker and will be still finish the prophecy one way or the other. Not sure it's true but I think this is fucking genius. Whoever says this game is stupid/boring/doesn't makes sense is either didn't paid attention or not smart enough to understand.
***** But he died by drowning, not for the head trauma.
Krisztian Bari Another irony is Booker kills Comstock by drowning in a baptism pile and later Booker died drowned in the same place where Combstock gets baptized.
Daniel Gaxiola Lugo
Right and even the Songbird who acted like a father to Elisabeth died in the water.
I find it really interesting how the story killed everyone this way who has been a guardian or a father to Beth.
“not smart enough to understand” 🤓🤓🤓
I think he's surprised because he's getting his head smashed against the fountain, call me crazy tho
2:00 Stop hitting yourself Stop hitting yourself
666melodeath666 can u explain to me what do u mean
Ali Sallam seriously play the game dude
666melodeath666 do u mean that booker and comstock r the same person
Ali Sallam *SPOILERS*
Yes, Booker DeWitt and Zachary Hale Comstock are the same person, from two alternate realities. The reason Booker's nose bleeds is because he is not meant to be in that reality.
Bioshock - capitalism utopia
Bioshock 2 - socialism utopia
Bioshock Infinite - Clan utopia :)
BountyFlamor Bioshock Infinite- Theocracy utopia
Patrick Cross yeah, the whole game is something like that.
Patrick Cross Without fresh minds and ideas, even the most noble of disciplines will rot.
Bioshock Infinite - *Alt Right Utopia
Except if you heard one of the conversations between the police early in-game, that Columbia dislikes misogynists, they had female soldiers.
I loved the game. Best one I've played so far :D Can't understand why people dislike the end. It was absolutly amazing imo
People dislike the end cuz many of them dont understand it. Well lets be honest, i had to read some topics on web to get it too. But once u fully understand it, its awesome and happy end at all.
NexDroid It's unfortunate that some people don't like what they don't understand, without even bothering to try to understand it. This was a masterful twist. Levine has a great imagination.
NexDroid it's... not a happy ending. The Elizabeth and Booker played in this game never existed at all after the ending.
pbl2519 No, they just have never let Comstock to exist. But in another dimensions, where Booker didnt accept a baptism, they still live together, cuz there is no one who will kidnap Anna. Its great ending.
no.. that's the point of the story. The Booker and Elizabeth that were shown in this plot never existed after Comstock died. Yes, Booker and Anna exists in another dimension but the characters we personally played didn't exist after the ending. It's a good ending but not happy.
yeah that moment was awesome
booker is a real badass
Sama Orochimaru sorry im 3 years late but they are the same person
@@gecek1981 okay
DID YOU THINK YOUR SONG AND DANCE AND YOUR SUPERSTITION WOULD HELP YOU, ELI?!
Oh my god...ET Cage....the FALSE PROPHET!
BOOKER DEWITT IS THE THIRD REVELATION!!!
Would killing your other self be called murder or suicide?
***** scuider?
in this case murder since Comstock and Booker have existed as seperate entities, even though they were one and the same at the very beginning, and thus can each survive the demise of the other
Wehn Boker kills Comestock its like he would kill his twin.
So its murder but you are right he kills himself in a Strange Way
+Conor Climo It's a two part answer.
Yes, but legally they are the same person
The moment when he intervenes with Comstock's hold on Elizabeth just sticks with me, right until he drowns him, its the voice acting, I like how genuinely passionate Troy Baker sounds.
SPOILER
The sad thing about Bioshock Infinite is that Elizabeth ceases to exist at the end. and only anna exist, the elizabeth that has been with you all this time is gone, cus you killed yourself after you accepted the batism (actually it was Comstock how died, the you who refused the batism still exist) and with Comstock dead, there's no Elizabeth in the tower, Booker would not have to sell anna.
If you listen carefully during the ending, everytime an Elizabeth dissapears from a certain world, a piano key chimes, signalling the end of existence for that Elizabeth. Right after the camera fades to black, you hear one final "plink", indicating that the last Elizabeth ceases to exist, and everything in Bioshock Infinite never happens.
Because the "Adult Elizabeth" that has powers all dissapear, and only Anna who didn't was sold (Cus comstock don't exist anymore) will exist, and Anna will never be like Elizabeth.
***** The One who was drowned was the Booker how was baptized (How later turns in Comstock), she drowning Comstock before the baptism destroy every possibility of the events in Bioshock from happening.
Comstock and Booker lives in different dimensions, each characterize his options in the baptism, rejecting will create Booker, Accepting will create Comstock, two different dimensions, Comstock Died, Booker still alive.
The booker that you play in is the booker that didn't accept the baptism.
Only Elizabeth would cease to exist, anna would still exist.
Elizabeth is a personality created from the point she was selled to comstock, the personality that was trapped inside a tower and etc...
Anna is a new born baby, as comstock died drowned, Elizabeth will never exist cus anna won't be selled to Comstock and wouldn't be trapped in a tower, she also won't learn her powers, and her personality will be completely diffent, like a different person.
Until Burial at Sea happens.
@@muatring actually she will case to exist because Booker had Anna\Elizabet after rejecting the baptism
@@ShiniRyuga probably won’t play it so explain
@@battletoads8922 Because Burial at Sea happens, it causes some confusion with Anna and her character. At the start of Burial at Sea it's shown that there was, at least one Booker DeWitt still alive. But he was really a Comstock who wanted to forget his past transgressions. In this Comstocks reality, during the scene where Booker and Comstock are fighting to pull Anna through the temporal portal, her head was cut off instead of her Pinky. Comstock goes to Rapture to forget his life and continue on as Booker DeWitt. But an Elizabeth also comes to Rapture to ensure he not only remembers but to make sure he pays for what he did to her alternate self. That's how part 1 ends. But part 2 starts with Elizabeth in Paris, who goes to Rapture to save a little girl named Sally that she used as a means to an end to get revenge on Comstock. When she gets there. she learns that the Elizabeth from the first part died and that she (Part 2 Elizabeth) retained Part 1's memories. She also learned that if an Elizabeth goes to a world where Elizabeth already existed, then she loses her powers, and becomes a normal girl. But given that Burial at sea shows 2 Elizabeth's still alive even after the events of Bioshock Infinite, it suggests that there are still many more Elizabeth's and possibly even more Booker DeWitts and Comstocks still alive. The ending of Bioshock Infinite means nothing, except that we saw how 1 story ends. But Elizabeth, Booker, and Comstock all still exist.
I lugged a volley gun all the way to kill Comstock and I got a non-interactive cutscene.
Same here, had to drop the cabrine my favourite weapon ha
Not going to lie, I just finished the game today and when Booker said, "You cut off her finger, and you put it on me!" I thought that Booker had gotten digit replacement surgery.
Completely understood the ending, though.
What a masterpiece of a game. After all these years you still have to search hard to find something equal to it's genius.
"She´s your daughter you son of a bitch! And you abandoned her! Was it worth it? Huh? Did you get what you wanted? Tell me! Tell me!" holy shit, looking at it after finishing the game is like if he knew unconsciously he was telling that to himself, this game is absolute gold!
Comstock, like many supposed prophets, only saw what he wanted to see, as blinded by prejudice as any other tyrant before him.
indeed, even Rosalind said in one Voxophone that the tears Comstock used for his "prophecies" only show POSSIBILITIES, not CERTAINTIES. his "indoctrinate Elizabeth to drown the mountains of man in flames" plan can only happen if he MAKES it happen.
Rip Karl Marx
And good riddance.
@Red Coin how can you play this game and still believe that?
I think you don't actually know what absolute freedom really is or what it can do. Freedom is blindly preached by so many because it can be used by the evil and power corrupt to do whatever the hell they want without justice, just like every antagonist in the Bioshock series has done very clearly. Everyone deserves the freedom to form their own opinions and philosophies, as long as they are based on evidence and not biases or hatred of any kind. Not a single living being can be trusted with the freedom to act without receiving appropriate justice and criticism, as that goes against the meaning of it. Just look at all the dictators around the world, they have been given absolute freedom to act without criticism or equality, isn't that a good thing?
@@aplix747 So there is God.
Comstock , booker and the Song bird all of them died by drowning, coincidence?
Say what you will about the BioShock series, but every main villain in the game dies in such a satisfying way. Andrew Ryan is beaten to death with a golf club, Atlas/Fontaine is stabbed to death by the Little Sisters, Sofia Lamb is drowned by her own daughter (depending on the choices you make in BioShock 2), and finally Comstock gets his skull cracked open followed by him being drowned.
Give me a minute to enjoy the thought of these horrible (albeit fictional) people dying the deaths that they deserve.
Comstock is based tho
@@elgranhermano8872the dude founded a racist dystopia where the prize for winning a raffle was getting the first stone to throw at an interracial couple 💀
It’s great how he beckons her in. Real southern-pastor-you-grew-up-with vibes
Part of me is disappointed this wasn’t a more traditional boss fight. They could easily have Comstock in a specially customized Handyman suit. Plus, since he was stricken with cancer. It would have made sense in story.
You mean like ryan or lamb? Lmao
@@elgranhermano8872 Those were disappointing as well. At least in Ryan's case, it had ludonarrative reasons,for the other two...they were just too lazy to design a boss fight.
@@bluecoin3771 maybe
But fontaine's fight was boring aswell
@@elgranhermano8872 At the very least, it was a proper traditional boss fight, I.E. you fight a boss and not just another wave of enemies you've already fought plenty of times before.
"YOU KILLED HIM"
yeah, that's what we came here to do. it was your idea, remember?
He looks like Santa Claus! GG Cosmtock!
This is like an echo of when Jack killed Andrew Ryan.
Constants and variables...
Am I the only one who thinks the voices of the game are done amazing?
So does this count as suicide or not?
EmptyMan000 It does not because this killing is to another individual.
George Hamilton Is it another individual? What makes an individual? If I believe the exact same things as my friends am I still different from them?
Kevin Nicklen Yes: the matter that composes you is not the matter that composes them.
+George Hamilton So an alternate you that's the same as you but made different choices counts as someone else? Food for thought.
EmptyMan000 You say that as if Comstock and Booker share a mind. They are different entities.
Wow. I just realized Comstock's last words are "It is finished," which are the same last words as Jesus Christ right before he died on the cross in the Bible. Furthermore, when you're drowning him, the "AD" on Booker's hand is clearly visible. In game, it stands for Anna DeWitt, but A.D. is commonly used to refer to the Latin phrase "Anno Domini," which means "in the year of our lord." Sometimes, A.D. is also said to stand for "After Death". As in, after the death of Christ. Neat.
"It is finished."
These same words are usually considered Jesus Christ's final words as well. Very fitting.
And this is why santa never talks about his brother
Booker is Darkwing Duck and Comstock is Negaduck
This just didn't impact me as much as the Ryan Scene until I played through again.
2K really knows how to twist the gamer's mind. Just like in Spec Ops The Line where you taught you're the hero but you are actually the villain. Criminally underrated video game company.
Booker: Oh My God I kill myself
Jesus i was expecting answers not blind rage
Murder, it may be him, but an alternate version with his own separate memories and ideas.
I felt that this death is not only ironic and also symbolic since Comstock Booker's past eventually caught up with him that he desperately tried to run away from with Religion...
Im currently revisiting Infinite, and what a fucking good game. Just got through this segment and Ive been having a blast.
1:57 SPARTAN RAGE ACTIVATED
Was I the only one that went “….huh.” right after seeing Booker’s nosebleed once he killed Comstock? Low key impressed that I put it together on the spot (at least the Comstock part). While Bioshock 1’s story and atmosphere is goatee, I admit the story grew on me and the ending was very clever as I just finished it. Not just because of what you find out, but how well it was put together and tied things together throughout the game.
The holy messenger of any prophet. It's a lot easier than explaining to the people, "I went back in time and space, kidnapped my own daughter (sorta), and now she is a multidimensional being with obscene powers because we frankensteined her as soon as we got back." More or less. If Booker gets nosebleeds when remembering Comstock's memories then it follows that the reciprocal should be true too. So it's a little of Comstock's own actions and transdimensional memory transference. Or whatever...
In this universe we clearly have rage issues
This game was the biggest mindfuck of my life...
a prophet is just somebody that has prophecies of the future. Being a prophet and being immortal are very different things
When I saw this the first time it was so satisfying
0:52 And he seemed like such a nice guy at that one point!
0:52
Comsock isn't Booker from the future, he's an alternate Booker from another timeline completely. Basically, in one timeline Booker accepted a baptism and in the other, he didn't. In the one where the baptism was rejected, Booker had Anna. In the one where he accepted, Booker became Comstock, founded Colombia, found a way into unbaptized Booker's dimension, and took his daughter from him. Booker gave himself the scar because he regretted giving Anna to Comstock.
Comstock in Birdbath: "Stay thirsty, my friends."
Drowning is such an amazing foreshadow in for the ending first the baptism then songbird's first appearance, then this and final
That scene was basically "I use the booker to kill the booker"
"She's your daughter, you son of a bitch and you abandoned her!"
I've beaten the game a few times and I missed the foreshadowing with that line. Once you find out the truth in the ending.
Oh no, he killed Zach Cumsock!
Comestock can only hold his breath underwater for 12 seconds. That's weak.
good riddance to that Santa wannabe lol XDDDDD
Stopp hitting yourself! Stop hitting yourself!
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Booker took suicide..
One word: Anger!
And like 2 people actually got the ending and knew comstock was booker
Maybe He knew. It would explain the blind rage and the nose bleeding.
The whole new meaning of you are your own worst enemy
Bro really self deleted
Imo, serious lack of golf clubs.
When I've first saw this I couldn't help but to "LMFAO" the entire time...
At the 2:00 mark a meta game of"STOP HITTING YOURSELF, STOP HITTING YOURSELF!"
"I've sent mighty armies to stop you, I rained fire on you from above"
Well geez thanks for making my 1999 game a living heck to begin with
SANTA! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
To killing him was really satisfying
+Treyvor Comstock Yeah , after all the shit he did. It was one of those fuck yeah moments
i was fuckin around bro i played the game
Treyvor Comstock what? I don't understand I was agreeing with you. I assumed you played the game otherwise you would not be here
oh my bad i took that wrong
we cool
The fact that he simply accepted his fate was not very satisfying at all, to me. It would have been more satisfying if he tried to defy dying and fought you back.
this entire story is so fascinating. but I Comstock should've known Booker would stop at nothing to protect Elizabeth seeing as technically they are the same persistent person and all
Man comstock's voice and much younger then I thought.
You sinners really like to brake my skull and drown me...
"this is getting out of hand, now there are 2 of them"
when I looked at the thumbnail I thought it was santa
how pleasant it was for me at that moment.
After finishing Burial at Sea Episode 2, I realized something. Maybe Comstock knew more than he's letting on, or at least in riddles.
"Seed of the Prophet, shall sit the throne and drown in flame the Mountains of Man.."
In Episode 2, Elizabeth seems to be playing the role of the 'Prophet', Jack is the 'Seed' she's sowing, who then 'sit the throne' (as in being brought on to the airplane by Fontain/Atlas) and 'drown in flame the Mountain of Man' is Jack's eventual arrival back to Rapture, setting in motion of the first game.
Maybe that's why he imprisoned her in the tower all this time, to prevent the end of the Episode 2. Her true Future.
That prophecy was about Elizabeth destroying whole world. You see that prophecy happening when you meet old Elizabeth.
Comstock doesn't have A.D. scarred on top of his hand but in the end Elizabeth/Anna kills Booker who has A.D. scarred on him.
great! booker just killed the man who could give him answers
2:24
at that point, I said to the computer screen
"I kill a lot of people, Elizabeth."
I just realized, his nose bleeds because Comstock, the alternate version of himself, is dead!
apparently you get stronger, faster, and smarter. In the upcoming DLC, booker will start traveling to parallel universes to hunt down his other selves so that he can become... THE ONE!!!
When his noes starts bleeding, shit just got real.
and they didn't even need to ask if he would kindly do it
His death felt so unsatisfying... BioShock series has had this effect on me
Games kinda been out a while, and what do you expect would happen, comstock goes on his merry way.
He makes the growing noise before booker kills him