When we are already making near 1000 lbs/feet of torque, the under vs over square starts to become less important. The l5p is a solid engine and should definately be a consideration for anyone looking to haul
I have a 2024 Duramax. I have had numerous software issues. When I got it, I had 2 OTA updates. Since then we have had several modules updated. The def system gage, the trailer brake module, the engine ECM and the latest one is the infotainment system gateway. I have over 15k miles on it, 90% of that with my 5th wheel behind it. It tows fantastic. Zero oil consumption and I get 13 mpg towing, around 20 empty.
First selling driver habits info to insurance companies and now monitoring you if you make mods to something you paid a minimum of $70k for to last longer. Screw General Motors.
The EPA sucks. Please vote any supporters of emissions controls out of office. We need to roll backwards on this.
It is what it is. I understand the concern for pollutants but at this point diesel engines are running extremely clean and the idea of tightening up missions even further seems a bit much
I can concour to that. They're still using the old engine logo with a carburetor and air cleaner on top. That's how dated the epa rules n regulations are
Greetings Alex.
for now; I feel much more reliable than the 6.7 liter Cummins. But you have to remember that nothing is perfect! Your information and support as well as your comments are great. Thank you so much! 😊
Voting system is rigged towards democrats, we live in a dictatorship
I have a new 6.6 gas 3500 dually. I've put over 60,000 mi on it in just over a year. I tow 6 days a week. This truck has been worked very hard and has literally had zero issues. If you're towing under 15,000 lb and need a high payload I definitely recommend the 6.6 gas.
the 6.6L gas isn't anything pretty but it seems like a pretty solid work horse.
@@TheGettyAdventures give me a work truck that'll go +300k miles with no headache and I'm happy. I'd love to see more on the new Ford 6.8
You don’t think the diesel is better for fuel economy over the gas truck?
Also would like to add, thank you for your information on ( Map) sensor 😊 YES I have taken mine off, not as dirty as the one you show, but boy it's so easy and simple to unbolt, clean, and make it pretty again
A big thank you for showing that service that any owner can do on their own. Another thing I do is raise the hood and let the rain water drain from the Rubber Boot attached to the hood. I just like to get rid of that water just about every time I start my baby 😊
10:15 the Dealer replaced the crankshaft gasket on mine, but they reused that long bolt (manual says you must use a new bolt)... long story short the bolt sheered off, the harmonic balancer spun and it destroyed my entire engine, leaving us stranded hundreds of miles from home. Never buy a vehicle from Varney GMC in Bangor, Maine. Biggest ripoff crooks and liars out there and completely incompetent! (hint, they also returned my wife's Escalade with the wheel falling off because they never tightened the new ball joints).
I’ve always found it funny whenever people comment “I’ll keep my 7.3” on videos reviewing new trucks, however I’m starting to see why people are hating newer trucks. I have a 2017 L5P for a personal truck that I think I’m going to keep forever now. I really believe besides those and the 17-19 super duties will be the last good diesels ever made
I’ll keep my Ford Model A thank you. Never had a check engine light on that horseless carriage!
I have a 65 C10 I'll just keep forever. The engine has never turned on... It's amazing 😅
I hear alot of people having good luck with those early L5P engines. and yes Covid did seem to kill alot of quality for a numbers of reasons it seems.
Great information, good stuff! An over-the-air update caused my 2022 F-150 King Ranch 5.0 to spend over a week in the shop. They pushed an update that told the truck it had a feature it didn't (park assist). Was an absolute mess, thet had to send an engineer to fix it, told me to disable updates for a "while". I'm convinced it was a mistake by some rookie developer. Looking forward to the next video!
My 2024 HD Ultimate made it 1 mile from dealership before check engine light and Christmas tree. Bad sensor front right, fixed day later. Concerning that these types of things are commonplace .
The OTA updates are an issue with f150s as well. On my 21 3.0 Powerstroke, I’ve only had one update come through since new and there have been countless updates apparently pushed out over that course of time. But hearing about guys getting OTA updates and then things stop working (head units brick, running lights malfunction, etc), I’ve actually turned off the auto updates altogether…..don’t want them. My fear is that now that the warranty is up, whatever ford screws up with an update will be on my dime to fix and I’m not ok with that.
I had my 24 for 4 months and put 20000 miles on it, better then the 24 Ford power stroke I got rid of, with nothing but trouble I had with the engine.
Greetings Alex.
for now; I feel much more reliable than the 6.7 liter Cummins. But you have to remember that nothing is perfect! Your information and support as well as your comments are great. Thank you so much!
BIG HUG! 😮
Gm Duramax trucks are the best tow trucks hands down.
Bring back the big block Chevy in the gm trucks and I will trade my Duramax in .
Just wait when your social score goes down because you dislike a post or a tweet, they make you start walking...
OTA software updates... what could POSSIBLY GO WRONG?
More like “over the air turn your truck off when your social credit score drops below 500”
Somehow we’ve gotten by just fine with air gapped transportation since we started riding horses, no need to start connecting things now
Thank you for updating information on
Chevy ( GM) Duramax Diesel PU engine
Although my Silverado Z-71 3500 Duramax
Is a 2021. Bought it used with about 10 thousand miles on her. I love my 8 foot bed and 4 door. It is also white. The most useful thing for me is the 4 side step up for bed of box.😊❤😊
Have a landscaping business we pull trailer everyday with the 6.6 L8T gas motor and this truck is a beast it’s been very good to us and we work it hard we are planning on trading for 2022 duramax only because we have a gooseneck trailer that carries heavy hopefully the 2022 duramax treats us well to soon to get a 2024
My 2024 Duramax has been at the dealer for eight weeks now with clogged DPF after 54,000km and won't regen. They tell me it reads 255% clogged. No parts available anywhere and they say could be 6 - 8 months! $103k truck and inoperaple! Over 75% of the miles has been pulling trailers.
Bought a ‘24 Duramax and the first thing I did was install a MAP sensor spacer. Curious to see how that works out in 20k miles.
@@anthonymckenzie4234 yeah I wonder if this is all a bunch of UA-cam/social media drama.
brand new 100k truck acting up anywhere, anytime for any reason...way to go GM
Global B gives me the feeling like you never really own your truck.
I get that there’s many great advantages to these new trucks and the engineering in them, but there’s also downsides.
I don’t mean to be a conspiracy theorist lol
100% agree, no conspiracy theories but it is a little weird to think of something being able to “hack” into your truck
I work in tech so I’m not scared of it. I hate subscriptions, don’t get me wrong. But the benefits you get from telemetry data, remote diagnosis, and constant software updates makes it more than worth it to me. I also don’t blame any of the “give me a steering wheel and a pedal with none of that computer crap” crowd, especially when they really don’t understand software technology at all. Just know anything that comes with your truck today can’t suddenly become a subscription. So there is no “my truck isn’t mine”. But by all means simply disconnecting the fuses that use cellular will be more then enough to keep the tin foil bag folk happy. I for one am crossing my fingers for an OTA update that’s gives me full screen CarPlay and more guages in my instrument cluster. The power of this platform 💪🏽
Wait until you realize it's just not trucks. Planes are vulnerable also, and that is scary as shit.
As a 6.6L owner, I have to say it's easily one of the trucks ever produced.
Putting heavy workload miles on it day after day, has taught me that it has the gm engine recently made, maybe even of all time!
Yeah it's a truck and it has an engine. Your insight is truly mind expanding and impactful. I'm for your comments and you.
All the failures on the crank that I’ve read about are related to excessive tuning.
Over 150 HP increase over stock.
Larger turbo ect.
I refuse to link my truck to on star.
Did Claus Schwab have a hand in this truck's development?
I have 24 duramax with 15k miles that turned 1 year old not too long ago. Only issue I had was one of DRL headlight had LED deadspot...probably from factory and warranty replaced it. They are 3k+ each and completely not serviceable...if a bulb goes out, you replace the whole thing. This isn't inspiring much confidence in me keeping the truck past warranty...my other cars never saw a dead headlight lightbulb in 5+ years, but they also did have a string of a zillion LEDs for DRLs. Also these fancy LED headlights aren't all that great at night either.
There some software updates. 1 of them early on I had to approve and sit in truck as it happened (to fix some check engine light thing people were having that I never had), but another one I later discovered happened by itself, which is a bit concerning as I don't even know how it was able to download anything since the truck didn't have data service plan and is normally in low single zones.
I replaced my fuel filter just a week ago (for which btw dealer wanted $600 to do and said should be done every oil change or 5k miles). I found a tiny bit of metal shavings on the bottom...kinda concerning, but doing some research, seems like it's normal/common thing...I have no way of knowing if it was in the fuel I purchased or the tank pump.
What I don't like is the truck MPG is often inconsistent... I'll get 13 MPG one day for the same trip that I normally 18-20 MPG another day...I think it's because regen kicks in and there is nothing in tell me that. In long trips, I average 21-24 MPG. I got 21 MPG in a 250 mile trip to beach with the truck fully loaded in family and baggage/gear....700+ miles or range. Towing MPG doesn't make sense to me as well... I'll get 10-12 MPG same trip with empty trailer or it having +9000 LB on it...I'd think empty towing I should be getting better MPG, but it's just not the case. It just seems to me the truck just gets whatever MPG it chooses and my driving style or load isn't really a big factor. Towing rarely and mixed driving, my overall MPG ends up being between 17-18 MPG. Def usage has been about 2000-2500 miles per jug, or something like add a jug every 4-5 fill ups.
Alex, what do you think about wet belt engines. Not just DuraMax, any of them. I've heard that Ford is having a hell of a time in the U.K. with their small diesels not being able to make past 100K miles because the oil system gets clogged from the belt disintegrating and the engine goes. And they're not warrantying it. The theory goes that if they do it once it'll open such a can of worms and cost them a fortune, that they deny any claims.
I do have a 2024 Chevy 2500 Silverado 15,000 miles on it blew the turbo exhaust line pull a trailer. I can’t believe they had partial metal and then lower half of it all rubber hose. And the truck is stock the interested to see how they’re gonna fix it because that hose is nightmare and it blew about a quarter size hole in it
I've had a 1972 Chevy C10, a 2023 Chevy 2500 6.6L Gas and now am about to trade to a 2024 Chevy 2500 Duramax. I didn't know about the Global issue. Thanks for the info. I miss the good old days where trucks were made for work and not overengineered. One question I have is, I had a pedal commander on my 2023 500 gas and it worked great. I plan to add a pedal monster onto the Duramax. Since all it does is increase throttle response I don't believe it should affect it negatively. I am curious what your opinion would be.
Absolutely no reason the big 3 can't put out a bulletproof diesel motor on this modern era. Instead of focusing on making more horsepower and torque, they should fully abuse the engines for 2 years and make a good product
Maybe me and you would appreciate that, but I think for the average buyer, more power = better.
I think deleted 2020-2023 duramaxes will be seen as the epitome of the modern diesel era.
They are very reliable, and the delete in Canada is about $5k all in.
The trucks themselves have all the things a truck needs, there isn't anything better than can be added, so there is no downside to owning the slightly older model.
The first gen L5P engines are solid units. no major issues, aside from some minor hiccups.
The Chevy Colorado's have also had issues bricking from the battery being killed after the OTA updates went goofy.
Short stroke has its advantages too.
It does, the ability to rev higher and faster, less inertial load on the rotating assembly. all of which is great for creating high end power. However in a diesel HD truck I'd take low end high torque grunt over top end performance all day.
Diesel dudes almost complete with the 24 L5P Delete kit for “off highway” Register in South Dakota after
Ya I figured there’d be some hiccups and issues with the updated engine. I ended up not waiting and picked up my 2022 Silverado HD diesel.
I’ll keep my 2013 🇺🇸 HD2500 gas 6.0 4x4 with 220k miles. still pulling strong ✊
Who Can AFFORD these ?
Odd that the Duramax wouldn't shut off if the oil pump is not turning making pressure since most modern engine do shut off due to no pressure thanks to fail safes built in, although if the oil is getting old and starts to thicken then that could be part of the problem. Most people just fuel it and go with no thought of ever performing basic maintenance that's why so many vehicles end up junked with low mileage.
My 24 AT4 seemed to be burning way more fuel than previous. (my 6th Dmax)
Imagine that software update done remotely. Guess better chk with dealer.
Ya it would't hurt, the second gen L5P's may also just drink more fuel, heard a number of people discussing much higher Regen frequency
My 21 f150 had multiple ota updates so i took to dealer for an update. The update was supposed to take 2 or 3 hours. It sat updating for 22 hours. They were afraid it would brick if the stopped so we let it go. It didnt solve all the issues that the update was supposed to take care of. I just live with the electrical annoyances. Lease ends in oct this year. Not sure which way to go.
I’ll keep my 7.3 🤘😎
my 17 just ate 2 lifters and fucked up the cam. Its rare, but documented
@@TheGettyAdventures i have a picture of the lifter. I caught it early so it didnt look too crazy.
Price and complexity increases coincides with more problems. Who would have thought!
If you put it on weight loss, GM will report you. No thanks, It's Ford or Ram. Keep your GM.
Never heard of Global-B. Sounds like a nightmare and a NO SALE for me.
The pin is just used as a guide, the bolt is supposed to hold everything
My highest MPG on my 2017 Silverado 2500HD LT 6.6L was 38.8 but currently it is staying near 18. I suspect if I disconnect the OnStar antenna that the mileage will return to 38.
The Global B is much more about receiving data from you than the other way around. They can keep their trash intrusion. I will go back to a carb and points. The diesel emissions have ruined all the diesel trucks.
Agreed, there is something weird about having the ability for someone to access your truck remotely.
@TheGettyAdventures its all about big G having control over everyone.
So, you say pretty common issues. Just how many? Probably less than .5% of Duramax on the road.
Just like onstar , dont get it. They report your driving habits to your insurance company, then they raise your rates
With all the epa crap on diesel engines i think cummins 6.7 would be a way better engine for ease of maintenance and repairs. These v8 diesel from ford and chevy looks like a nightmare to own.
for dozens of reasons i wouldn't touch a chevy with a 45 ft pole
I'm really hung up on diesel vs gas
New ford 6.7 needs new main bearings after 200,000 thousand probably, l5p is the best built stock motor capable over 1000hp ez!
P.S. the harmonic balancer is night and day better then Dodges that RUSTS off and destroys the engine.
you still got that ridgeline? i wanna see another video of it!
for a RV need, which kind of truck would you recommend?
Just get a GM Gas, up to 6.6L if you're really haeavy towing and\or on lotss of grades.
The total diesel engine is immensely complex for the average person just told RV every once in awhile the complexity of maintenance and operation and the higher cost of diesel the greater efficiency is wiped out by the higher cost right now so it's about even so the benefit is hugely more torque but and quiet are running from the standpoint of lower RPM but the issues and the maintenance and the upkeep are just way way way more than it's necessary and sensible from a cost and time and effort standpoint for an average person told an RV you know even a bunch of times a year let alone a few times. I have an older door max by the way so I know what I speak of for the general family and if you watch the video by the car wizard about 10 diesels to get the commentaries in between pretty much hold solidly if you want to hear it elsewhere if you're going to make money towing big stuff all the time and upgrades and mountains and all that get a diesel if you're just going to tell her if he wants in a while it's a recreational person it's not worth all the extra not the diesels or not phenomenal it's just not what the average everyday person needs is way too much to upkeep and keep track like keeping a DEF full keeping from plugging a DPF by not driving freeway long enough to region and all kind of stuff it's just too much it's just not worth it.
Now the crankshaft is the #1 issue…..beware!!!!
I turned all my ota data sharing off. F them. Went to dealer and they turned it back on. Called and they said GM makes them. Turned it back off.
Imagine I buy a PC with Windows installed on it. Then I decide I want to try Linux on it. I install Linux but when I do the PC no longer works since I tried to change the OS. WoW!!!
Why does a truck need to be protected from "unauthorized access to customer data"? Why have any data about the customer? What kind of data are they collecting? Are they sharing any data?
They collect all your driver data and sell it to insurance companies. They are currently getting sued by the State of Texas for doing this without customer consent.
Why do they need to update software on vehicles? It’s not like the purpose of the vehicle is going to change.
lol well from experience, what happens is for example a vehicle will be released and they find out that the fuel map is slighly off causing engines codes or aftertreatment codes and so they need to update the computers to change the fuel mapping. stuff like that is the main reason for software updates. helps to Iron out kinks.
Klouse Shwab gets to turn of your engine when you don't eat z bugs!
Updated junk. Nanny software, no.
Not a big fan of OTA updates for my vehicles, at least in any fashion that can inhibit driving ability.
Was there really anything you liked????
I get how some people find what he says to be true but he is no engineer. No mechanic is by FAR. And i can say that they HDs go far beyond his scope of understanding. All he can really do is turn a wrench and repeat what hes learned in school. Go to Banks channel is you REALLY want to see what makes this engine the best.
Does the global b apply to the gas l8t gas engine as well?
You’re right. You are winging it as some without an engineering background.
About 95% of the issues he is talking about happens across all Diesel Platforms across all brands occasionally. Everything man made is prone to breaking.
Wow!! Are you buying the truck or are you renting it. How can they control how you tune it? It's not their truck once you buy it!!!!!!!!!!!
Why have egr with epf?
Would you recommend a Fass fuel pump?
Not necessary the L5P has a lift pump I think fast sells something for it but it's not needed like the previous generations
A lot more diesel consumption vs 2022.
I regret the change.
A number of people have mentioned that. Potentially more frequent regens ?
2024 vs 2019 here…. Easily twice as many regens. I have not seen a huge drop in fuel economy between the two….
Banks makes a maf spacer.
S and B as well. Do they actually work? I just pull and clean mine…. Always been pretty easy….
Listen, if guys from Norway figured out how to tune a DME in a BMW, they will find a way around it....
You mean they can track and deactivate your vehical without your knowledge.
Mine leaks oil like a mother
Have to be sharper than a brain surgeon to work on this new stuff.
That's a government kill switch
@TheGettyAdventures no it is. It was mandated in legislation per the "Inflation reduction act"
How do you feel about the Sany yellow iron?
Crank pin sheering will keep these off the farm for sure 😂 another grenade by gm. Someone will have to die before they fix any of it too.
It's a weird one forsure, Personally I think it's a little overblown but obviously something to look into!
Vehicles have been able to be hacked into for years. Do you forget the whole Ram debacle where they could be hacked into and controlled? That was years ago… don’t pretend like this is something new
@@freedomisntfree_44 if you watched you would know it’s not a common issue and the one that did the harmonic balancer wasn’t torqued correctly causes the problem. Please show us more than 3 of these
@@Billybob50119 ua-cam.com/video/l1qR-B36p4w/v-deo.htmlsi=m2feBhANfIITBI48 😂
I guess my point was that this new electronic back bone may be causing these check engines lights, lol and figured I would touch on the system itself.
So, the Chinese have hacked the engine and Mary should retire?
Buy a gas engine…..did you hear this??….wow
ho, yah i will have a truck that is controlled by someone else... think not
I wouldn’t say controlled but a third party can gain access to the truck which I agree is a little odd.
100,000.00 worth of junk.
@@JoshuaOvermanFords 6.7 is miles ahead of the 6.6. The 23 gmc I drive is so slow 😂
@@waterloo123100the duramax doesn’t have piles of blown engines laying around like the 6.7 power stroke does :)
This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen
Hey Big 3, it is a pickup truck, not a fucking Boeing 747 plane. Quit making these vehicles needlessly complicated.
biggest pile of junk i ever bought
I dont like that they are not an inline 6. Id go GM hd 6.6 gas over a dmax.
Inline 6 in my opinion is an optimal diesel engine design. But I think the issue is the length of the engines. They may not be able fit them into the engine bays which is why GM and Ford may have gone with the V8
@@TheGettyAdventures when GM was looking for an engine to replace the 6.5, at least one inline 6 was sent to them - a John Deere Powertech. But the v8 obsessed meatheads at GM had to go with a v8.
Im not sure about your videos, you say Cummins has a longer stroke for more torque and yet the shorter stroke 24 l5p has way more torque than cummins. Definitely need to separate your opinion from fact. P.S. i am also a technician
The HO 6.7 makes 1075 lb ft of torque. That’s a 100 more than the 24 l5p. You definitely need to separate your opinion from fact. Kinda embarrassing from a tech.
So torque generation relies a number of factors, but it is very well documented that an engine with a larger stroke has a better advantage of producing torque over a shorter stroke engine.
@Lq32332 don't take my comment out of text, I was not denying longer stroke can produce more torque. Dale Banks tore down a 24 l5p and was highly impressed with the upgrades and design of the engine. As far as the ho 6.7l, you can't get that in a 2500 pickup. By the way, I'm not embarrassed lol
@@Steve-rf3rn Even the SO cummins has more torque per cylinder. 850 ft-lb / 6 = 141.6 ft-lb per cylinder. l5p is 975 / 8 = 121.8 ft-lb per cylnder. The SO powerstroke is 131.2 so the refreshed duramax still has the LEAST torque per cylinder.
I have a 24 L5P, stock, with a little over 20k miles. Half of that towing. I’ve had no issues at all. Tows up the western mountains with ease. I am very pleased with the truck, 10 speed trany and the engine.
20 k miles it considering new truck when you 200k than you can say something
@@raphaeldallavechia4510we didn’t realize you were in control
@joshdixon8624 hes right though. Every vehicle should be running fine with only 20k miles.
Mines a 2024 3500 and its been back to the dealership twice for emission problem. Although, when it’s running right it’s tough. It pulls my 20k toy hauler with no problem.