Around and about in the West Midlands in the late 1980's. Look out for the class 90 driver training at Nuneaton, and smokey class 37's at Birmingham New Street.
First time I went spotting was Birmingham New Street first loco I saw was 47001... and I saw it so many times at New Street.... Anyone remember the destination stickers on carriage windows ....good collectables...
Absolutely magic mate. FUNeaton. British Rail, we thought it would never. Halcyon days mate. I am from Derby but lived in Coventry too. East Midlands Rangers and Deltics, West Midlands Rangers and West Midlands day trippers on the 50's from BNS to Cov. We took it for granted. I did the scene from 77 to 90, I left the country for the second time in 1990, when I come back it was all gone. Thanks for sharing I will be watching all your other stuff now.
Great video and didn't things seem a lot calmer then .. the three talking women on the platform looked as if they had the same hairstyle and not a mobile in sight
It's always so depressing watching videos like this Phil, the good ole days long gone and consigned to memories from the 86 driver at Nuneaton doffing his brew to you to the BRUTES at Birmingham and never mind the traction..... Keep em coming mate.
yeh. we used to sit on the BRUTES and eat our sandwiches while watching the locomotives come in and out. I think of those days every time i'm waiting for a train at Grand Central, sorry, New Street.
A fascinating time to have grown up in, when old met what is already "not quite so old", both worked together & both were exciting, either because it was new & I wanted to know how it worked or it was old & I wanted to know how it worked. When Leyland still built engines, when MCW still built buses, when trains still sounded like trains instead of like a convoy of buses or lorries...
Fantastic memories! Luckily I remember seeing the demise of the "Westerns" at Swindon works in 1977. Seeing my first "Deltic" (55009) vibrate the platform at York. The "76's" over Woodhead, "50's along the sea wall, 24's & 40's at Crewe. 27's out of Edinburgh, 33's & 73's at Clapham Jct. 44's at Burton & Derby. Catching loco hauled trains to and from "Oldbury" on my way to work (85's,86's, 87's). Class 13's at Tinsley. The introduction of the 56's. "Drags" by 56's and 58's to and from Birmingham New Street. Double headed 25's from New Street to Wolverhampton. Bescot & Saltley rammed with all classes......All just memories now sadly.
Quite fun looking at the consist and seeing what we have and where it [probably] went. At least one train had no tail lamp but of course signalmen were a rare breed on most routes.Enjoy the tangy tangy taste of diesel, but modern passengers would weep if they once knew the comfort of a 304.
Did anyone notice what I think are fairly distinctive InterCity Manchester Pullman MK2s at New Street about 9:34 into the video? First film clip I have seen of them. Love to know if there are anymore clips of them on UA-cam?
Used to go to New Street and Wolverhampton station’s regular and spend the day with my grandad when I went to stay with them in West Bromwich in the school holidays. Get the train from Smethwick Rolfe Street station and decide which way to head from there😂👍👌 great times❤️
Great footage, thanks. When was the Nuneaton footage filmed? That was my home station and I loved watching the ballast and other engineers trains in that period. Any more 80s or early 90s Nuneaton or engineers footage?
Lovely stuff, cheers. Some great memories of when I was a kid, used to spend hours after buying a platform ticket for 4 pence at Watford Junction grabbing the numbers of the 86s and 87s!
Useful to rearrange old footage for this kind of thing. It reminded me that they used to maximise the use of electric traction, by actually changing the locomotives! The layout at New Street was optimised to faciltate this as well; better than long journeys under the wires with diesel engines.
Trains from Manchester and Liverpool would usually arrive electric hauled before sticking on a 47 or 50 diesel to head down to Reading or West Country. It was a dark station back then and was quick a trek to change platforms.
Excellent video my friend. ..il wager you didn't expect all these years later that it would be appreciated as much as it is...loved them as a kid...tbh still do
thnx for posting this video how i miss the good old days used to love doing overnights at crewe carlisle doncaster now all we have are those horrible canadadian built shed class 70s pendelinos and voyagers
I also have happy memories of overnights, including diving across the road from Carlisle Citadel to the Caledonian pub for a couple of swift pints, followed by a sack of chips from the chippy next door! :-)
I really enjoyed that. A very varied locos and great camera work. Thanks for sharing. I have subb'd. If you want to see a lot of these locos in oo gauge, head over to my Dean Park layout ;-) Thanks again. Dave
Used to cost me £5 from Northampton and I could bash Class 47, 86, 87 & 90's all day around Birmingham, Wolverhampton and Coventry, not to mention the old DMU and EMU units. Very happy days.
Great stuff , thanks , just wondering though , where where the two 37,s going to , and where did the 47 that coupled up come from , as Saltley was up the other end , thanks
The scene at Birmingham New Street is mystifying. How comes, that the majority traffic has been Diesel Traction and yet, overhead electric power lines?
Many of the trains would be coming from or going to non-electrified locations. This is (was) particularly the case at a central interchange location like Birmingham where trains would have travelled along non-electrified routes to get there.
@@nigelmitchell351 Diversion out of BNS, on a Sunday. Engineering works between BNS and COV. Would have an electric logo 'dragged' by a diesel to Nuneaton, then to Coventry, where the pantograph could go back up.
@@mesnilman2327 Back in the 70's, Sunday engineering work used to provide diesels pulling AL 's and Stock through Rugby. I once saw an EE type 4 Drag an AL6 and 24 coaches south !
Super memories of a great time... the 87 at Nuneaton didn't appear to have a name which would put it nearer 1977/8? I'm sure someone will tell us 86219s driver's name! Great stuff!
The 87 in the late 70s? With InterCity liveried Mk3 coaches in the consist? Looks very much like 87101 to me which IIRC had thin silver nameplates, which you can just make out.
Very enjoyable and interesting. Though the Class 31/4 and the Ganger / Mk2B diagram confused me a little as to where from / to? Also never seen a Mk3A RFB with the Intercity 'Swallow' branding placed in the middle rather than to one end - the diagram with 86219 providing the power out of Nuneaton is where this appears. My money is on this video being either late 1988 or 1989 with the Class 90 driver training and the Intercity 'Swallow' livery in it's infancy. Thank you for sharing / posting! :o)
Yep - I could be wrong but I think there might have been an Ipswich diagram too. In any case it used to take forever and only ran every couple of hours.
@@HFStuart Ipswich rings a bell with me. i feel like they ought to have been fairly quick as they avoided the reversal at Ely. though that meant if you wanted to get to Cambridge, you had to wait for years in the desolation that is March.
that 86 at 3:53 is on platform 4 Nuneaton can tell by the slop from the train crash that I seen not the crash but 2 days after and still the 2 locos was there one 86 was on that slop in a bad way saying on the slop meaning it made the slop and was nether rebuilt but the class 86 was the other loco was down the line only of the rails. 7 dead if it was not a sleeper but a full rush hour train it most likely of been a lot more thanks to a light out on a speed limit sign I was 7 at the time 44years ago now
Thanks for sharing. Ah the memories! I recall in late 1970s, there were so many of us spotters one one platform at Birmingham, we were moved off by the BTP, as apparently drivers were concerned we'd fall off. You don't see quite as many these days.
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8:20 I can hear Gretha Thunberg sobbing as she sees the 37 open up...lol
Back when New St was worth visiting and the amount of spotters then, now you hardly see anyone on a platform....even less in lockdown lol
i know lol :)
Decades before I was born (05), wish I could have seen stuff like this. Great vid mate
First time I went spotting was Birmingham New Street first loco I saw was 47001... and I saw it so many times at New Street....
Anyone remember the destination stickers on carriage windows ....good collectables...
1:00 Ah, bashers making amusing hand gestures. Those were the days.
I like the 86 driver with his tea mug.
Absolutely magic mate. FUNeaton. British Rail, we thought it would never. Halcyon days mate. I am from Derby but lived in Coventry too. East Midlands Rangers and Deltics, West Midlands Rangers and West Midlands day trippers on the 50's from BNS to Cov. We took it for granted. I did the scene from 77 to 90, I left the country for the second time in 1990, when I come back it was all gone. Thanks for sharing I will be watching all your other stuff now.
Great times, great memories. I'm from Cov and was a spotter in the 80s 👍
Great video and didn't things seem a lot calmer then .. the three talking women on the platform looked as if they had the same hairstyle and not a mobile in sight
Tardis please...Absolutely brilliant video 👌
I remember many times travelling from Slough to Manchester via Oxford. The class 47 would be swapped out and a Class 86 marshalled onto the front.
Blimey. That is memories. I was looking to see if I could see myself... But no (sadly!). Many thanks for sharing
Mermaid ballast wagons , god I hated tipping them by hand, on a cold wet rainy night. Good days. Love BR.
It's always so depressing watching videos like this Phil, the good ole days long gone and consigned to memories from the 86 driver at Nuneaton doffing his brew to you to the BRUTES at Birmingham and never mind the traction..... Keep em coming mate.
Thanks Phil. I've been digitising my old VHS tapes so hopefully I'll get some more footage out soon.
yeh. we used to sit on the BRUTES and eat our sandwiches while watching the locomotives come in and out. I think of those days every time i'm waiting for a train at Grand Central, sorry, New Street.
A fascinating time to have grown up in, when old met what is already "not quite so old", both worked together & both were exciting, either because it was new & I wanted to know how it worked or it was old & I wanted to know how it worked. When Leyland still built engines, when MCW still built buses, when trains still sounded like trains instead of like a convoy of buses or lorries...
Fantastic memories! Luckily I remember seeing the demise of the "Westerns" at Swindon works in 1977. Seeing my first "Deltic" (55009) vibrate the platform at York. The "76's" over Woodhead, "50's along the sea wall, 24's & 40's at Crewe. 27's out of Edinburgh, 33's & 73's at Clapham Jct. 44's at Burton & Derby. Catching loco hauled trains to and from "Oldbury" on my way to work (85's,86's, 87's). Class 13's at Tinsley. The introduction of the 56's. "Drags" by 56's and 58's to and from Birmingham New Street. Double headed 25's from New Street to Wolverhampton. Bescot & Saltley rammed with all classes......All just memories now sadly.
Quite fun looking at the consist and seeing what we have and where it [probably] went. At least one train had no tail lamp but of course signalmen were a rare breed on most routes.Enjoy the tangy tangy taste of diesel, but modern passengers would weep if they once knew the comfort of a 304.
It was a great time to be into railways.
I'm ploughing through the archive at the moment so stay tuned for more material of similar vintage.
Did you go back in time to get this footage! This is fantastic!
Stafford is a very good station for seeing trains but apparently it have poor internet wifi signals.
Still plenty to see at Stafford.
I want a Time Machine!
It was a great era to be roaming the rails.
31s on Birmingham -Norwichs and a Class 90 - it must be early 1988
Excellent footage especially from Coventry and Nuneaton.
That was really good to watch, proper stuff more pls..
Some great footage there.
Thanks
Did anyone notice what I think are fairly distinctive InterCity Manchester Pullman MK2s at New Street about 9:34 into the video? First film clip I have seen of them. Love to know if there are anymore clips of them on UA-cam?
I used to on daytrippers all over the midlands. 1985/1987
Birmingham to everywhere lol
Used to go to New Street and Wolverhampton station’s regular and spend the day with my grandad when I went to stay with them in West Bromwich in the school holidays. Get the train from Smethwick Rolfe Street station and decide which way to head from there😂👍👌 great times❤️
I don't half miss clagging dmu's
Great to see 31414 still alive and kicking,.
Great footage, thanks. When was the Nuneaton footage filmed? That was my home station and I loved watching the ballast and other engineers trains in that period. Any more 80s or early 90s Nuneaton or engineers footage?
Lovely stuff, cheers. Some great memories of when I was a kid, used to spend hours after buying a platform ticket for 4 pence at Watford Junction grabbing the numbers of the 86s and 87s!
My trainspotting days
I wish both my headphones sides had sound, 30 sec in my ears had enough shame as i do like the sound of old diesels
its little things like the announcers voice at stafford that was nice to hear again,,,
How delightful! No frigging Branson and not a bloody container in sight.
Epic video of a great era, brought back some great memories, thanks for posting
This is fantastic cracking Video nice one :)
Almost taste those old diesel fumes
Nice bit of flailing behind that BR blue 47
double header h-bombs and a baby brush - memories!
Useful to rearrange old footage for this kind of thing. It reminded me that they used to maximise the use of electric traction, by actually changing the locomotives! The layout at New Street was optimised to faciltate this as well; better than long journeys under the wires with diesel engines.
Trains from Manchester and Liverpool would usually arrive electric hauled before sticking on a 47 or 50 diesel to head down to Reading or West Country. It was a dark station back then and was quick a trek to change platforms.
Excellent video my friend. ..il wager you didn't expect all these years later that it would be appreciated as much as it is...loved them as a kid...tbh still do
I just wish I'd taken more! :(
Agree with comment from Richard Timms!!!
Cracking variety, glad you filmed it.
Excellent archive footage 👍
7:00 any ideas how a Buxton based DMU ended up at Birmingham New Street ?
thnx for posting this video how i miss the good old days used to love doing overnights at crewe carlisle doncaster now all we have are those horrible canadadian built shed class 70s pendelinos and voyagers
I also have happy memories of overnights, including diving across the road from Carlisle Citadel to the Caledonian pub for a couple of swift pints, followed by a sack of chips from the chippy next door! :-)
Excuse me
I really enjoyed that. A very varied locos and great camera work. Thanks for sharing. I have subb'd. If you want to see a lot of these locos in oo gauge, head over to my Dean Park layout ;-) Thanks again. Dave
Great too see a Coventry video , amongst others . Was a spotter back then also .
Leamington lad. Recognised it straight away. These are my glory days.
Thanks for posting. Great memories of Midline Day Rangers!
Midline Rover was fantastic value. I wonder if there is still a similar ticket available?
Used to cost me £5 from Northampton and I could bash Class 47, 86, 87 & 90's all day around Birmingham, Wolverhampton and Coventry, not to mention the old DMU and EMU units. Very happy days.
Fond memories
Great stuff , thanks , just wondering though , where where the two 37,s going to , and where did the 47 that coupled up come from , as Saltley was up the other end , thanks
The scene at Birmingham New Street is mystifying. How comes, that the majority traffic has been Diesel Traction and yet, overhead electric power lines?
Many of the trains would be coming from or going to non-electrified locations. This is (was) particularly the case at a central interchange location like Birmingham where trains would have travelled along non-electrified routes to get there.
Dragging in the early 90s into Nuneaton was great
Dragging?
Dunno
@@nigelmitchell351 Diversion out of BNS, on a Sunday. Engineering works between BNS and COV. Would have an electric logo 'dragged' by a diesel to Nuneaton, then to Coventry, where the pantograph could go back up.
@@mesnilman2327 Back in the 70's, Sunday engineering work used to provide diesels pulling AL 's and Stock through Rugby.
I once saw an EE type 4 Drag an AL6 and 24 coaches south !
Super memories of a great time... the 87 at Nuneaton didn't appear to have a name which would put it nearer 1977/8? I'm sure someone will tell us 86219s driver's name! Great stuff!
The 87 in the late 70s? With InterCity liveried Mk3 coaches in the consist? Looks very much like 87101 to me which IIRC had thin silver nameplates, which you can just make out.
That was 87101 Stephenson, quite rare to see that on passenger work
Nice video, thanks
Nice Phil. Very nice. Very nice indeed.
classic, took me right back.
great colours
Superb Phil
Great footage! Thanks for posting
Glad you enjoyed it. :)
Very enjoyable and interesting. Though the Class 31/4 and the Ganger / Mk2B diagram confused me a little as to where from / to? Also never seen a Mk3A RFB with the Intercity 'Swallow' branding placed in the middle rather than to one end - the diagram with 86219 providing the power out of Nuneaton is where this appears. My money is on this video being either late 1988 or 1989 with the Class 90 driver training and the Intercity 'Swallow' livery in it's infancy. Thank you for sharing / posting! :o)
i expect the 31/4 & Mk2s would have been Birmingham New Street to Norwich, making use of the Ely avoiding line.
Yep - I could be wrong but I think there might have been an Ipswich diagram too. In any case it used to take forever and only ran every couple of hours.
@@HFStuart Ipswich rings a bell with me. i feel like they ought to have been fairly quick as they avoided the reversal at Ely. though that meant if you wanted to get to Cambridge, you had to wait for years in the desolation that is March.
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great stuff - thank you for sharing. :) i hope the pair of 37s were heading out for a trip to Pwllheli. :)
I think that they were the Lickey bankers heading to Saltley for fuel but I'm not really sure. Can anyone help out there?
Phil Thomas they are heading away from Saltley but lickey bankers would be my guess
great video sir thanks for the upload.
My pleasure! ;-)
that 86 at 3:53 is on platform 4 Nuneaton can tell by the slop from the train crash that I seen not the crash but 2 days after and still the 2 locos was there one 86 was on that slop in a bad way saying on the slop meaning it made the slop and was nether rebuilt but the class 86 was the other loco was down the line only of the rails. 7 dead if it was not a sleeper but a full rush hour train it most likely of been a lot more thanks to a light out on a speed limit sign I was 7 at the time 44years ago now
delticsarebest sorry but a full stop or comma would be helpful . No idea what slop means..
don't worry about it then
I mist a e out of slope quick get the grammar police
Great video
:-)
Thanks for sharing. Ah the memories! I recall in late 1970s, there were so many of us spotters one one platform at Birmingham, we were moved off by the BTP, as apparently drivers were concerned we'd fall off. You don't see quite as many these days.
Sadly the trains just aren't very interesting wish I had grown up in the 80s or 90s