Pretty good, but some warning about the dental drill sound would have been helpful. I am glad I wasn't wearing headphones! Also I noticed as the smoke began to warm up it started to rise quite high so short bursts would be better?
Sorry about the sudden air tool noise. I’ve put some time into more recent videos to try add better production value to my newer content. Thanks for your input. Yes indeed you want to cycle these units. Please check out the other vids I did on this topic.
Save some cash-- Ollie's Bargain Outlet sells these plastic totes for less than $5! Also, I like to use ice packs-- you can put them back in the freezer and use them night after night. Small water balloons, frozen, also work. Line your bucket with aluminum foil, shiny side in, to help it work even better.
Thanks for the 411 on where to find the bins cheap! Now ill agree that on a budget the ice packs are much more practical especially for repeated use, but the ice packs cant compare with a bin full of ice. Its actually not even close. Two reasons- we are exploiting the chemical reaction of cacl2 and melting ice in this chiller. ice packs can't do this. Also there is little contact between the ice packs and the aluminum pipes compared to the bin full of ice. On the other hand i never thought to try foil on the inside of the chiller, although i always thought an inner bin made out of aluminum might help with the core temp, almost like a thermal sync. I'm going to try the foil in an upcoming video. Thank you Brent.
So the bubble gum minus the bubble gum? Is that just rock salt to get the ice extra cold or what? Also the glycerin you added to the fog juice where do you get that? And what fog machine are you using? Bad ass man. That’s the best fog kept low I’ve ever seen. Waaaaay friggin bad ass! 🇨🇦
The “bubble gum” is calcium chloride or ice melt mixed with salt yes. Glycerin can be purchased at most pharmacy’s just make sure it’s food grade and has no extra additives.
Mc Zoolando think this vegetable glycerin is the same? Glycerin Vegetable - 1 Quart (43 oz.) - Non GMO - Sustainable Palm Based - USP - KOSHER - PURE - Pharmaceutical Grade - safety sealed HDPE container with resealable cap www.amazon.com/dp/B004C7MTLA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_eEbSDbX2B4KN9
That's awesome, I'm looking forward to building one like yours soon. I have a 1000 Watt fog system. After seeing so many videos on chillers yours seems the best option. I have one concern about it. I see that your outtake is laying on the bottom. What happens when the ice starts melting? Would the water ever make contact with the fan? Or are you draining it somehow while its running?
Tom Vanslingerland the electronics are safe from water. It takes 12 or more hours before the water level reaches the output pipe where it can drip out if it gets left there, but that’s why the fan is also a quick attach so it can be removed and drained. Plus you also don’t want cacl2 water dripping all over your grass or worse yet all over the floor. I’ve never gone as far to put an aquarium pump on one of these things, but I’ve been waiting for someone to try one out... I’ve never run it for more than 12 hours continuously.
Noticed your footwear at the beginning of the video and wonder if you live in Regina or just somewhere in Sask.? This will be handy for me when I get to the outside Halloween decorating!
i don't know if anyone can help. I basically did a similar fog cooler. the fog machine is a 1000w. i have it funneling through a small plastic pumpkin head where it flows through the mouth of the pumpkin. However, huge problem, the smoke barely comes out of the pumpkin. and it doesn't lay low (and im using ground fog) I shortened the piping by about half and similar results. there doesn't seem to be any leaking. and when the smoke machine is on by itself, there is a great amount of smoke coming out...wtf? thoughts?
Has anyone compared the 2 types of chillers? Passing through a tube entirly through with ice around the tube and out .. VS .. one that sends the smoke actually through the ice and back into an outlet. Efficiency output etc?
Jesse C this design has both the chilled pipes and travels through the ice in between but I’ll break down the ultimate formula for fog chiller design success. 1- don’t bother anywhere there is wind or an uncontrolled setting. 2- have the coldest ice possible with safe chemical reaction or use dry ice. 3- restrict air movement but control it with forced air (fan). You want the fog inside for at least 5-10 seconds before it exits. The colder the better. 4- pvc or plastic on the inside it a waste of time and potential. Aluminum or copper will better transfer cold temperature to the fog. Thermodynamics 101 ✌️
@@McZoolando hey you seem pretty helpful .. I'm curious, would it be better to attach the fan with a wye fitting to push air from the side vs pulling the fog (and any moisture) directly through it? It makes sense that potential moisture within the fog couod damage or shorten the life of the fan.
Jesse C agreed the pros and cons are the following. Now although we have never had one fan on four different chillers die or seize up, it is indeed bound to happen eventually. The reality is that pushing the fog through our pipes and “ice honeycomb” is much less effective as far as a consistent output. Secondly pushing the fog also just blows out of all the cracks and seeps from anywhere it can. Reality of the fog chiller concept is there is still room for improvement and I love to hear feedback from others and what seems to work better. Please share any insight.
Hi, Great video. I really like your set up compared to the others that are out there. One question though does the fog damage the fan or the electronics of the fan after alot of use?
Daniel Nikolaus to date all fans I have ever run of any kind still work, but I still have yet to run it daily for many weeks. Laws of physics say it has to fail at come point. They also can get very sluggish at -60 and below lol
Love the video - can you elaborate on how the pipes are set up inside? Originally I thought the pipes were connected inside but upon watching closely I see that the pipes are not connected at all, is this correct? How do you prevent the output pipe from being clogged with ice (and water) since it is sitting on the floor of the box?
The chamber is always full of ice. Everything on the insides we want to be as cold as possible. In this chiller there is an in pipe and an out pipe. The inner ends are located in the two furthest points apart from each other so the fog also has to travel through a maze of ice. Fog is inside this chiller for up to 10 seconds before it comes out the out pipe. The only thing bad about ice and water inside the pipes is air restriction. In retrospect, the super chilled water on the out pipe is probably the single best thing this chiller concept exploits. Only reason i never put a drain valve on the bottom is that it takes like 12 hours of non stop use before the water level gets that high. I was going to include the diy drain valve in one of the next vids. For outdoor use though you can elevate the output end slightly so it'll drain itself out the back without any airflow issues. Warning- when using salt and cacl2 , mind your lawn and garden lol. Nothing will grow there for a while lol
Thanks for the quick reply MC Zoolando! I got it - built my version of it this morning. Question: how do you prevent the fog from exiting back out from the intakepipe? I put the fogger right next to the pipe but some amount is coming back out
There can be a lot of air restriction when the bin is full. This is good for the fog to condense inside, but the fan is necessary for pulling the fog out the output pipe. Please check out all 8 of my videos on the topic. If youre still having issues ill help you work through it. Also the Bose Einstein fog chiller is exclusive to Hauntforum. You can interact with the thread in there and you can also post photos there.
Got it - unfortunately that site isn't processing new registrations correctly at the moment so I can't see any details of the supercharger-carbonator. Is this shown in any of your vid's? I've watched most of them but I don't think you show it in the vids.
Hey MC, Great video series!!! Out of all the chiller videos, your chiller is exactly what I am looking for and with the holiday coming so close; I want to duplicate exactly what you have using ice without having to waste time doing more mods than necessary (pretty much plug and play). I'm on my way to the Depot to get the supplies. After watching all of your vids I have one question, what is the exact fan that you are using and how do you hook it up to the AC charger? Just like you, I have a boxful of AC adapters but I searched for Shanghai fans but could not find the proper fan, can you send me a link or a search keyword for the fan or even an alternative fan that I can get sent to me quickly? Thanks and keep up the good work!!!
The fans i'm using are universal size 3 or 4 inch fans. On ebay they came up first page when searching - computer fan. Different seller and coming out of Hong Kong but same diff. Problem is that a man on an aquatic bicycle could get it to you sooner than it takes coming from there with free shipping. You could likely find the computer fans at any computer surplus store. Also there are in line fans available at the major home stores like the Depot. Iv'e never tried one of them yet but i intend to. They're just a bit pricier at like 35$ but they're ac powered i believe. From all the different ways iv'e tried, the fan always works better on the output. Also this chiller will still perform well without the fan but there cant be very much air restriction or it won't be as effective.
Fans came from China but they're standard computer fans. They come in all sizes just choose a fan that fits right for your setup. I have used different voltages from 6 to 14 dc transformers (wall warts). What is most important is make sure the fog is forced to sit or compress in your chamber, while at the same time also forced out the front end. My next video i'm going to use 115 volts ac and a larger fogger. In using the more powerful fan, i will try create more resistance inside if that makes sense. Full thread and videos available on Hauntforum :0
That’s a loaded question. The more salt mix the quicker it will melt, but in theory will achieve lower temps. It won’t be that significant though. A coffee cup of melt per bag of ice or two would be a generously fair ratio. This concept still has a lot of data that’s missing.
Great video, looking to do a chiller dog next year. Question, is it absolutely necessary to use calcium chloride and salt? This would likely go on our lawn. Also what sort of machine are you using?
Great question Fred Gallegos. It's not absolutely necessary, but it is indeed a huge advantage. It'll drop -5c ice to -20c quickly, and iv'e gotten below -35c with ice that was frozen to -20c. There are 8 videos in total and iv'e used a 700 watt ADJ fog machine in all to date. check em all out and there's one more coming shortly.
THEoriginalTAPS no. Although you can fit a bit more ice inside, no. In a forced air chiller like this those aluminum pipes help keep the fog inside the chiller a bit longer so as to chill the fog better. Other chiller designs don’t allow the fog to to stay inside long enough and after many tests I’ve found that those telescopic pieces had no real advantage whatsoever.
I'm doing the barrel scene in the basement from return of the living dead. I attached another pipe to the output of the chiller to the backside of the barrel and i made a rupture in the bottom of the barrel. If running hose on the outside of the chiller, an insulated pipe works better. Don't use aluminum on the outside. as far as the grass goes i would just make some kind of basin with plastic or a larger bin than the chiller. Otherwise just rinse the grass very well lol.
Stephen P if eBay has links, I don’t know how to use em. Here is the item and description word for word for the cheapest ones I’m seeing right now - Quad 4-LED Light Neon Clear PC Computer Case Cooling Fan Mod Heat Sink 120MM Lot
Positive is always red. Black is always negative. On “wall wart” plugs, they identify the positive with either paint or etching or something to identify the positive. The negative wire should always be plain. Don’t worry though these fans will only run when wired correctly and it’s such little voltage it’s an ideal project for beginners.
By far the most legit video on youtube on how to make a fog chiller. Affordable, safe, precise and functional design. Well done!
liliana aslanidou Thank you! Part 2 for the hand controller is complete. ^
I love your slippers/shoes!! Rider pride!!
Sure hope they start to skoden here soon our best chances are looking like crossover
Pretty good, but some warning about the dental drill sound would have been helpful. I am glad I wasn't wearing headphones! Also I noticed as the smoke began to warm up it started to rise quite high so short bursts would be better?
Sorry about the sudden air tool noise. I’ve put some time into more recent videos to try add better production value to my newer content. Thanks for your input. Yes indeed you want to cycle these units. Please check out the other vids I did on this topic.
Idk why but I love when some of the fog broke free from the ground in the bottom right corner, reminds me of updraft when storms form
There was a heater down there causing the disturbance. It’s cold this time of year where I live.
DAMN! Dis guy knows what he is talking about!
hah! Return of the Living Dead theme! Love it! Gonna build one of these for next year. Good job.
Save some cash-- Ollie's Bargain Outlet sells these plastic totes for less than $5! Also, I like to use ice packs-- you can put them back in the freezer and use them night after night. Small water balloons, frozen, also work. Line your bucket with aluminum foil, shiny side in, to help it work even better.
Thanks for the 411 on where to find the bins cheap! Now ill agree that on a budget the ice packs are much more practical especially for repeated use, but the ice packs cant compare with a bin full of ice. Its actually not even close. Two reasons- we are exploiting the chemical reaction of cacl2 and melting ice in this chiller. ice packs can't do this. Also there is little contact between the ice packs and the aluminum pipes compared to the bin full of ice. On the other hand i never thought to try foil on the inside of the chiller, although i always thought an inner bin made out of aluminum might help with the core temp, almost like a thermal sync. I'm going to try the foil in an upcoming video. Thank you Brent.
The music + that fog means Hallowe'en is going to be amazing at your house. Can't wait! 💀
Great video
Try putting the camera at the other end by the fog maker. Love the video
DUUUUUDE!!! Is the music at 9:03 from Return of the Living Dead?
Trioxin
So the bubble gum minus the bubble gum? Is that just rock salt to get the ice extra cold or what? Also the glycerin you added to the fog juice where do you get that? And what fog machine are you using? Bad ass man. That’s the best fog kept low I’ve ever seen. Waaaaay friggin bad ass! 🇨🇦
The “bubble gum” is calcium chloride or ice melt mixed with salt yes. Glycerin can be purchased at most pharmacy’s just make sure it’s food grade and has no extra additives.
This test was done with a little 700 watt. Imagine what it’ll do with a big fogger. Thank you!
Mc Zoolando rad okay yea I have a chatua 700 or something like that. Thing works really good. Dang okay I’ll have to see what I can find. Thanks man!
Mc Zoolando think this vegetable glycerin is the same?
Glycerin Vegetable - 1 Quart (43 oz.) - Non GMO - Sustainable Palm Based - USP - KOSHER - PURE - Pharmaceutical Grade - safety sealed HDPE container with resealable cap www.amazon.com/dp/B004C7MTLA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_eEbSDbX2B4KN9
I wonder if it's all water tight, what using a bunch of salt with ice would look like? Lowering the temp even more..
In the water/ice category it plunged to minus 41.7 with cacl2/salt mixture.
That's awesome, I'm looking forward to building one like yours soon. I have a 1000 Watt fog system. After seeing so many videos on chillers yours seems the best option. I have one concern about it. I see that your outtake is laying on the bottom. What happens when the ice starts melting? Would the water ever make contact with the fan? Or are you draining it somehow while its running?
Tom Vanslingerland the electronics are safe from water. It takes 12 or more hours before the water level reaches the output pipe where it can drip out if it gets left there, but that’s why the fan is also a quick attach so it can be removed and drained. Plus you also don’t want cacl2 water dripping all over your grass or worse yet all over the floor. I’ve never gone as far to put an aquarium pump on one of these things, but I’ve been waiting for someone to try one out... I’ve never run it for more than 12 hours continuously.
Noticed your footwear at the beginning of the video and wonder if you live in Regina or just somewhere in Sask.? This will be handy for me when I get to the outside Halloween decorating!
Yes sir I live in the city that rhymes with fun. Go Riders!
Awesome!
i don't know if anyone can help. I basically did a similar fog cooler. the fog machine is a 1000w. i have it funneling through a small plastic pumpkin head where it flows through the mouth of the pumpkin. However, huge problem, the smoke barely comes out of the pumpkin. and it doesn't lay low (and im using ground fog) I shortened the piping by about half and similar results. there doesn't seem to be any leaking. and when the smoke machine is on by itself, there is a great amount of smoke coming out...wtf? thoughts?
Scott Yunes install the fan. Problem solved.
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Has anyone compared the 2 types of chillers? Passing through a tube entirly through with ice around the tube and out .. VS .. one that sends the smoke actually through the ice and back into an outlet. Efficiency output etc?
Jesse C this design has both the chilled pipes and travels through the ice in between but I’ll break down the ultimate formula for fog chiller design success. 1- don’t bother anywhere there is wind or an uncontrolled setting. 2- have the coldest ice possible with safe chemical reaction or use dry ice. 3- restrict air movement but control it with forced air (fan). You want the fog inside for at least 5-10 seconds before it exits. The colder the better. 4- pvc or plastic on the inside it a waste of time and potential. Aluminum or copper will better transfer cold temperature to the fog. Thermodynamics 101 ✌️
@@McZoolando that's awesome, your chiller is next level with the CPU fan. Thanks for responding!!
@@McZoolando hey you seem pretty helpful .. I'm curious, would it be better to attach the fan with a wye fitting to push air from the side vs pulling the fog (and any moisture) directly through it? It makes sense that potential moisture within the fog couod damage or shorten the life of the fan.
Jesse C agreed the pros and cons are the following. Now although we have never had one fan on four different chillers die or seize up, it is indeed bound to happen eventually. The reality is that pushing the fog through our pipes and “ice honeycomb” is much less effective as far as a consistent output. Secondly pushing the fog also just blows out of all the cracks and seeps from anywhere it can. Reality of the fog chiller concept is there is still room for improvement and I love to hear feedback from others and what seems to work better. Please share any insight.
Hi, Great video. I really like your set up compared to the others that are out there. One question though does the fog damage the fan or the electronics of the fan after alot of use?
Daniel Nikolaus to date all fans I have ever run of any kind still work, but I still have yet to run it daily for many weeks. Laws of physics say it has to fail at come point. They also can get very sluggish at -60 and below lol
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The water/glycerin mix in the fog seems to have little effect to the fans to date...
Love the video - can you elaborate on how the pipes are set up inside? Originally I thought the pipes were connected inside but upon watching closely I see that the pipes are not connected at all, is this correct? How do you prevent the output pipe from being clogged with ice (and water) since it is sitting on the floor of the box?
The chamber is always full of ice. Everything on the insides we want to be as cold as possible. In this chiller there is an in pipe and an out pipe. The inner ends are located in the two furthest points apart from each other so the fog also has to travel through a maze of ice. Fog is inside this chiller for up to 10 seconds before it comes out the out pipe. The only thing bad about ice and water inside the pipes is air restriction. In retrospect, the super chilled water on the out pipe is probably the single best thing this chiller concept exploits. Only reason i never put a drain valve on the bottom is that it takes like 12 hours of non stop use before the water level gets that high. I was going to include the diy drain valve in one of the next vids. For outdoor use though you can elevate the output end slightly so it'll drain itself out the back without any airflow issues. Warning- when using salt and cacl2 , mind your lawn and garden lol. Nothing will grow there for a while lol
Thanks for the quick reply MC Zoolando! I got it - built my version of it this morning. Question: how do you prevent the fog from exiting back out from the intakepipe? I put the fogger right next to the pipe but some amount is coming back out
There can be a lot of air restriction when the bin is full. This is good for the fog to condense inside, but the fan is necessary for pulling the fog out the output pipe. Please check out all 8 of my videos on the topic. If youre still having issues ill help you work through it. Also the Bose Einstein fog chiller is exclusive to Hauntforum. You can interact with the thread in there and you can also post photos there.
Got it - unfortunately that site isn't processing new registrations correctly at the moment so I can't see any details of the supercharger-carbonator. Is this shown in any of your vid's? I've watched most of them but I don't think you show it in the vids.
I'm working on the next vid. Hopefully it'll help your chiller perform to its full potential.
Hey MC,
Great video series!!! Out of all the chiller videos, your chiller is exactly what I am looking for and with the holiday coming so close; I want to duplicate exactly what you have using ice without having to waste time doing more mods than necessary (pretty much plug and play). I'm on my way to the Depot to get the supplies. After watching all of your vids I have one question, what is the exact fan that you are using and how do you hook it up to the AC charger? Just like you, I have a boxful of AC adapters but I searched for Shanghai fans but could not find the proper fan, can you send me a link or a search keyword for the fan or even an alternative fan that I can get sent to me quickly?
Thanks and keep up the good work!!!
The fans i'm using are universal size 3 or 4 inch fans. On ebay they came up first page when searching - computer fan. Different seller and coming out of Hong Kong but same diff. Problem is that a man on an aquatic bicycle could get it to you sooner than it takes coming from there with free shipping. You could likely find the computer fans at any computer surplus store. Also there are in line fans available at the major home stores like the Depot. Iv'e never tried one of them yet but i intend to. They're just a bit pricier at like 35$ but they're ac powered i believe. From all the different ways iv'e tried, the fan always works better on the output. Also this chiller will still perform well without the fan but there cant be very much air restriction or it won't be as effective.
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Can you tell me exactly what fan you got. I tried once but the fans were too powerful. What is the power supply you use too? Thanks
Fans came from China but they're standard computer fans. They come in all sizes just choose a fan that fits right for your setup. I have used different voltages from 6 to 14 dc transformers (wall warts). What is most important is make sure the fog is forced to sit or compress in your chamber, while at the same time also forced out the front end. My next video i'm going to use 115 volts ac and a larger fogger. In using the more powerful fan, i will try create more resistance inside if that makes sense. Full thread and videos available on Hauntforum :0
Thanx for all your great videos on this topic! They are really helpful. I have a question on the tote. Is that the 17 gallon or the 27 gallon? Cheers
I used the 27 gallon tote. I'm glad you found the videos helpful!
What is the ratio for the ice melt and the salt ?
That’s a loaded question. The more salt mix the quicker it will melt, but in theory will achieve lower temps. It won’t be that significant though. A coffee cup of melt per bag of ice or two would be a generously fair ratio. This concept still has a lot of data that’s missing.
Great video, looking to do a chiller dog next year.
Question, is it absolutely necessary to use calcium chloride and salt? This would likely go on our lawn.
Also what sort of machine are you using?
Great question Fred Gallegos. It's not absolutely necessary, but it is indeed a huge advantage. It'll drop -5c ice to -20c quickly, and iv'e gotten below -35c with ice that was frozen to -20c. There are 8 videos in total and iv'e used a 700 watt ADJ fog machine in all to date. check em all out and there's one more coming shortly.
Would it best to just use 2 telescopic pieces instead of ducting?
THEoriginalTAPS no. Although you can fit a bit more ice inside, no. In a forced air chiller like this those aluminum pipes help keep the fog inside the chiller a bit longer so as to chill the fog better. Other chiller designs don’t allow the fog to to stay inside long enough and after many tests I’ve found that those telescopic pieces had no real advantage whatsoever.
When operating properly this chiller has the fog inside for up to 10 seconds before it exits the chiller.
THEoriginalTAPS you must use a fan to force the fog through when making a chiller like this
@@McZoolando if i just use ducting, do i need that small fan??
Yes you need the fan
Why the term "Bose EinSTein" (quantum mechanical -524F atomic coherence) which has nothing to do with fog?
Why not use "dry ice" (frozen CO2)?
Are these serious questions? I’m sure the World Wide Web will answer you for me lol first person to correctly answer gets a cookie
P.S ~ Any tips on using this set up in the grass like in a cemetery type scenario for good fog disbursing?
I'm doing the barrel scene in the basement from return of the living dead. I attached another pipe to the output of the chiller to the backside of the barrel and i made a rupture in the bottom of the barrel. If running hose on the outside of the chiller, an insulated pipe works better. Don't use aluminum on the outside. as far as the grass goes i would just make some kind of basin with plastic or a larger bin than the chiller. Otherwise just rinse the grass very well lol.
Do you have a link for the exact fan you purchased? How exactly are you connecting the fan to a power adapter?
Stephen P if eBay has links, I don’t know how to use em. Here is the item and description word for word for the cheapest ones I’m seeing right now - Quad 4-LED Light Neon Clear PC Computer Case Cooling Fan Mod Heat Sink 120MM Lot
Stephen P ua-cam.com/video/nFIx2eKi2cA/v-deo.html
Appreciate it. I want to do a fan but not thermometer. When you cut the end off the power adapter, which wire goes to red and which to black?
Positive is always red. Black is always negative. On “wall wart” plugs, they identify the positive with either paint or etching or something to identify the positive. The negative wire should always be plain. Don’t worry though these fans will only run when wired correctly and it’s such little voltage it’s an ideal project for beginners.
hate to keep asking questions, but where did you get the vent pieces? I'm not seeing it on home depots website
how many gallons is that tub?
Gruesome Shadow 27 gal I believe. Check out my haunt vids from this year it was next level
Gruesome Shadow like boss level next level
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where are the tin tubes running to - you did not show that ????Are you kidding me - you gotta dislike from me !!!
grm3300 watch all the videos