New limited edition model: "The Lemond KFC" Oversized cast iron tubes Poultry based chain wax drivetrain (yes raised w synthetic hormones) 11-speed (1 per herb and spice recipe) Special bucket shaped hubs Comfy biscuit shaped lever hoods...
Just a week ago my brother has won a mountain running race where a former tour de France winner (now almost 50 years old) finished second. Dedication beats emoglobin, finally 😄
If Lemond thinks the only explanation for Froome’s performances was a motor, how the hell does he explain the stand out performances by Pog and MVDP in recent years that make Froome’s look tame by comparison?
No it’s not. It’s Chris Froome remember. The greatest stage racer of that era. He used an e-bike for every win??? 😆😆 Makes no logic man. Think of the logistics. You obviously don’t own an e-bike. Where is the bike swap? He rode extra 3kg of e-bike tech the entire stage?? 😆😆
In the 1991 Tour De France Miguel MUTANT Indurain did the TT in 1:11:45 and Greg Lemond was only 48 seconds behind. This is after over 2 weeks of racing around France FULL GAS lol. They both ROMPED the TT course holding OVER 47kph average speed. Indurain was also more of a TT specialist than Greg and built a lot stronger. IMPOSSIBLE Greg was natty in that 1991 TDF. Physiologically impossible.
@durianriders thing is, LeMond was dead beat in the '89 Giro. He was looking at his wife WTF are we going to do? The doctor chimes in, "I could give you some juice cocktail and see how you go"... Sure, what do we have to loose lets try it! Then that miracle TT where he finishes 3rd everything all of a sudden seems to fall into place. Everyone's pointing at his bars this his bars that. As Allan Pieper would say, "RUBISH"!!! LeMond has the talent to beat these dudes with one leg but with some special potion he's got the Mutant Levels! Hey! Don't forget his Hinault team name was LA Vie Claire! That's a laugh in itself! We're living the, "Clean Life". Sheesh too much Drama for me. Can't we just ride our bikes pan y Agua! Cheers Mate!
He podiumed at age 12 racing adults in the Arizona mountains. He did not take drugs like the others or your weekly TEST shot Harley. We have got to be fair here. Cheers!
These athletes are freaks of nature to be sure. They have enormous VO2 max. So sure, they can win local races as a kid all natural. But you can’t win a pro race without EPO when other pros with just as high VO2 as you are on EPO. Just like you can’t win Mr Olympia without steroids.
cycling is a technological field where they invent the most efficient motors and batteries. where they generate heat and noise at the minimum levels. it's also a field of medical science where they research how to combat aging
Totally agree on the Lemond issues, he seems totally fixated on motors, and cannot stop talking about it. Would be way more impressive if he looked actually half-fit, like my mates who some are in their 60s would probably ride circles around him these days, and they were never top level. On the other end of the spectrum there is official commentary on the giro praising Pantani and how fast he was, without mentioning that he was peobably doping just as hard as Lance, and even more on recreational drugs as well. Big hero :-)
If you've spent much of a lifetime putting in monster hours keeping as fit as Greg you can be cut some slack in your later living. Very common for athletes to let go. Look at Brad. He was once a stick.
Bro am I a unicorn? Because my results with sugar are always shot down instantly. Even vegangains doesn't believe me that I'm eating enough calories for how lean I am, he said he thinks I'm underestimating my calories yet I eat around 5000 calories a day,... Just the two banana smoothies I eat everyday is over 2400 calories, 24 large bananas + 100g added sugar...and I eat allot more variety than just two banana smoothies per day!! Cooked food around 2500 calories per day maybe more. Sometimes I think to myself "am I crazy, am I fucking up my body?" but I look around and I have amazing health compared to most people including most of my family. It's like I have a good thing going here and I don't know why I would change if its working. Im starting to think I should stop trying to tell people about carbs and sugar, people don't want to listen, they don't even want to consider. They are overweight on a caloric deficit while eating ham and cheese, WHY? they are making their life hard.
Because you use pharmaceutical products to do what’s expected of you at work it makes you non genuine?? 😆😆 NOBODY is buying a bike because they think they will win the TDF etc. Taking PED’s is part of the job. Pro sport is NOT healthy for the body. It’s business mate. If you can’t keep up then cya later bro. Nice to know you. Good luck with your podcast etc. ❤️
Lamond has brought this upon him. If he just kept quiet, let history play out . he would have everyone throwing roses at his feet. He has ruined one of the great stories in sports, his own. I like him, but he's going crazy.
@@durianriders He won didn't he? So apparently he made the right decision in chasing down Boyer. If he didn't do it, someone else would have. Boyer ended 30th in that race, he was not going to win regardless. That's why Lemond he is a 3 time TDF winner and 3 time World Champion.
How would a top World Tour rider of today get away with using a motor? His mechanics would know. His teammates would know. Management would know. The UCI would know. And the motor would be found. It isn't like drugs. Greg is too consumed with conspiracy theories.
In fact I think it's rife in triathlon, especially Ironman. Long, Sanders, Frodeno etc I think are questionable. I think the Brownlees are probably natural though.
You are insufferable in some ways, but I believe you speak truth when talking about doping. The notion that LeMond never took doping products is absurd, and it never ceases to amaze me when people cling to the notion that he won races clean. It beggars belief. Talking to someone who thinks LeMond never doped is like talking to someone who believes Santa is coming down the chimney on Christmas eve.
gregs hate is so deep he even tries in a half ass way to bring Induráin into question..raising an eye brow like a clever little fella with all the answers. i love watching interviews with him just to listen to him regurgitate the same tired lines about his lungs and his youthful exploits beating adults etc..pathetic..thanks for shining some real truth on this subject!!
I wish Greg LeMond would just open up and tell the truth about his time and cycling, before he gets too old and isn’t able to. With the LA drama behind us I feel like him coming clean would be much better received and he wouldn’t be stripped and shunned like LA was.
C'è chi ha lematocrito 'oltre 52 naturalmente ( genetico ) li non serve l 'epo.Lemond non so se ce l'hma alcuni proffesionist in diversi sport si e wada rilascia certificati medici dopo test severi .
@@durianriders I don't believe that's the case. I think many are, but not all. High skill sports like tennis or soccer I think it's much less rife - because it's so technical it's probably not enough of a benefit to improve your physicality by 5% or 10% and risk getting caught when you can just be better at the game. For example, a natural Djokovic would still demolish almost all other players if they were doped. You couldn't say that about cycling etc.
@@ln5747A bit naive, the money in sports like tennis and football, means the pressure to cheat is even higher. The pressure of pro tennis is immense, you don't win you don't get paid. The pro tennis tour is a real grind, to keep your fitness for the entire season, irrespective of your hand eye coordination is immense. The testing is a joke, no one wants to bust the big stars, because you destroy the sport, then the money goes down. So there is no motivation to catch cheaters.
@@kevincockburn7805 not naive at all. I've not seen anything to believe people like Djokovic are doping. Top level tennis is still way less demanding than a high level endurance sport, the ability to stay fit is not a problem. One can easily do that workload naturally. More injuries than endurance sport due to the twisting and turning etc, but workload is much lower. Some/many are definitely doping as they've been caught, but I don't believe it's at all necessary to get to the top. Technique will by far outweigh someone having 10% more endurance than you all things being equal.
@@ln5747 I totally disagree, every sport I have ever seen has been polluted by drugs. Let's take baseball, hitting a fast ball is one of the single most skillful feats of hand eye coordination in all of sport. And yet the hitters were doped out of their minds, Barry bonds, Jose conseco junior, mark Maguire etc. So how do you explain their love of the juice, when that is a skill position, a power lifter is not going to be a good batter in major league baseball.
Old Greg seems to know an awful lot about cheating. Just sayin...
Hella great video..thank you for shedding light on Lemond vs Froome incident
I often find your style a bit over the top but I have to agree with everything you’re saying here. 👏🏻
Always inspiring.. your enthusiasm for a healthy lifestyle is infectious.. please, don’t ever stop..
Lemond goes after anyone English speaking that has won more tours , than him . First it was lance , then Froome U seen him lately he is pickled .
What does pickled mean in this context
Well he was right about Lance and Froome and his former team weren’t riding on water and Clif Bars.
New limited edition model: "The Lemond KFC"
Oversized cast iron tubes
Poultry based chain wax drivetrain (yes raised w synthetic hormones)
11-speed (1 per herb and spice recipe)
Special bucket shaped hubs
Comfy biscuit shaped lever hoods...
Graaavy in the blood iykyk
Your honesty rocks!
Just a week ago my brother has won a mountain running race where a former tour de France winner (now almost 50 years old) finished second. Dedication beats emoglobin, finally 😄
If Lemond thinks the only explanation for Froome’s performances was a motor, how the hell does he explain the stand out performances by Pog and MVDP in recent years that make Froome’s look tame by comparison?
Greg Lemond is the only Natural top pro cyclist 🤣
Crazy how everyone around him doped but he beats them! XD
Ventous 2013 it's hard to believe CF didn't use a motor
No it’s not. It’s Chris Froome remember. The greatest stage racer of that era. He used an e-bike for every win??? 😆😆
Makes no logic man. Think of the logistics. You obviously don’t own an e-bike. Where is the bike swap? He rode extra 3kg of e-bike tech the entire stage?? 😆😆
He said Mutant Levels!
In the 1991 Tour De France Miguel MUTANT Indurain did the TT in 1:11:45 and Greg Lemond was only 48 seconds behind. This is after over 2 weeks of racing around France FULL GAS lol. They both ROMPED the TT course holding OVER 47kph average speed.
Indurain was also more of a TT specialist than Greg and built a lot stronger. IMPOSSIBLE Greg was natty in that 1991 TDF. Physiologically impossible.
@durianriders thing is, LeMond was dead beat in the '89 Giro. He was looking at his wife WTF are we going to do? The doctor chimes in, "I could give you some juice cocktail and see how you go"... Sure, what do we have to loose lets try it! Then that miracle TT where he finishes 3rd everything all of a sudden seems to fall into place. Everyone's pointing at his bars this his bars that. As Allan Pieper would say, "RUBISH"!!! LeMond has the talent to beat these dudes with one leg but with some special potion he's got the Mutant Levels! Hey! Don't forget his Hinault team name was LA Vie Claire! That's a laugh in itself! We're living the, "Clean Life". Sheesh too much Drama for me. Can't we just ride our bikes pan y Agua!
Cheers Mate!
He podiumed at age 12 racing adults in the Arizona mountains. He did not take drugs like the others or your weekly TEST shot Harley. We have got to be fair here. Cheers!
1. Lance Armstrong also won events age 12. So did every big name lol.
2. I don’t take test every week. I don’t even take it every 3 months.
These athletes are freaks of nature to be sure. They have enormous VO2 max. So sure, they can win local races as a kid all natural. But you can’t win a pro race without EPO when other pros with just as high VO2 as you are on EPO. Just like you can’t win Mr Olympia without steroids.
If Greg listened to your advice and got in shape again what would be his w/kg for 20 minutes at 62?
Depends if he is still on the juice 😆
Suppose he is natty, 68kg and having trained like a professional for a season.
wow are those koala bears in the trees?
cycling is a technological field where they invent the most efficient motors and batteries. where they generate heat and noise at the minimum levels.
it's also a field of medical science where they research how to combat aging
Greg really thinks he's natural 😂😂😂😂😂
2:06 did that koala just take a dump? :D
There's gen Koalas just hanging out in the trees in town, didn't realise they were that common 😂
What gloves are you wearing?
Imagine their is a dark version of Durian where is he obsessed with mountian bikes and is a carnivore...
Anyone can speculate all they want but the riders themselves know if they dope or not. I just sit back and enjoy the race when I can.
Greg BAFFOON lemond 😂
Totally agree on the Lemond issues, he seems totally fixated on motors, and cannot stop talking about it. Would be way more impressive if he looked actually half-fit, like my mates who some are in their 60s would probably ride circles around him these days, and they were never top level. On the other end of the spectrum there is official commentary on the giro praising Pantani and how fast he was, without mentioning that he was peobably doping just as hard as Lance, and even more on recreational drugs as well. Big hero :-)
If you've spent much of a lifetime putting in monster hours keeping as fit as Greg you can be cut some slack in your later living. Very common for athletes to let go. Look at Brad. He was once a stick.
What helmet are you wearing?
Bro am I a unicorn? Because my results with sugar are always shot down instantly. Even vegangains doesn't believe me that I'm eating enough calories for how lean I am, he said he thinks I'm underestimating my calories yet I eat around 5000 calories a day,... Just the two banana smoothies I eat everyday is over 2400 calories, 24 large bananas + 100g added sugar...and I eat allot more variety than just two banana smoothies per day!! Cooked food around 2500 calories per day maybe more.
Sometimes I think to myself "am I crazy, am I fucking up my body?" but I look around and I have amazing health compared to most people including most of my family. It's like I have a good thing going here and I don't know why I would change if its working.
Im starting to think I should stop trying to tell people about carbs and sugar, people don't want to listen, they don't even want to consider. They are overweight on a caloric deficit while eating ham and cheese, WHY? they are making their life hard.
Couldn't have said it better myself 😂👍🏼
How did Greg go from winning the TDF title to getting dropped from the peloton a year later if he was on the juice?
How did he go from getting dropped in the Giro to months later WINNING the TDF?? 😆😆
@@durianriders that’s been explained, he had to sit out 5 weeks in 1990 due to a viral infection resulting in him riding like shit in the spring.
Greg's soignuer BITD ....look at that guy!!!! He was like ... "One for you - Greg."...."....and TWO for me!!!"
yes a motor with 3 AAA batteries will win the stage easy. that bike was full natty.
Maggies, koalas, border collies, vegan - you've got it all but what's the go with the motorbike gloves?
Mitch Docker, G Thomas, Locky Morton, some of the most genuine guys on the planet - all users? really?
Because you use pharmaceutical products to do what’s expected of you at work it makes you non genuine?? 😆😆
NOBODY is buying a bike because they think they will win the TDF etc.
Taking PED’s is part of the job. Pro sport is NOT healthy for the body. It’s business mate. If you can’t keep up then cya later bro. Nice to know you. Good luck with your podcast etc. ❤️
yeh, I get that, Harley. but these guys deny using. and i struggle to disbelieve them, because of their character. see where I'm coming from mate?
Legend !
Nobody listens to Greg !
He couldn't keep up with the peloton , he didn't want Lance to break his record ..
harley why do i get so sleepy after i eat a big fruit meal? it kind of interferes with my life. cheers ty for everything
Lamond has brought this upon him. If he just kept quiet, let history play out . he would have everyone throwing roses at his feet. He has ruined one of the great stories in sports, his own. I like him, but he's going crazy.
💯💯
Yes, I think I speak for everyone when I say I want to see Greg get ripped once again. He would absolutely smash it.
I still believe they are all natural in all sports unless caught by all the strict testing ... Even Florence Griffith Joyner was clean as a whisle 😂
Vitamins…
GL was a great rider but was always a bit of a drama queen and a whiny little itch…
When he chased down his own teammate at the worlds it says all you need to know about him 😆💯
@@durianriders He won didn't he? So apparently he made the right decision in chasing down Boyer. If he didn't do it, someone else would have. Boyer ended 30th in that race, he was not going to win regardless. That's why Lemond he is a 3 time TDF winner and 3 time World Champion.
I sometimes wear my moto gloves too.... keep those hands protected.
Carbs + EPO = fastest weightloss results!! Carbs FTW!! 💪💪
Greg is jealous.
Remember Lemond only won the 89 tdf because Fignon had a skin growth on his balls the size of another testie
How would a top World Tour rider of today get away with using a motor? His mechanics would know. His teammates would know. Management would know. The UCI would know. And the motor would be found. It isn't like drugs. Greg is too consumed with conspiracy theories.
I see some interesting stuff happening on the A Bas Le Ciel channel..
I doubt it
Blummenfelt VO2 100 is also natural :))
He's not natural imho
In fact I think it's rife in triathlon, especially Ironman. Long, Sanders, Frodeno etc I think are questionable. I think the Brownlees are probably natural though.
nice jersey
I think Greg's dad without training has a crazy vo2... yes Greg needs to dump weight 👏 🎉🎉
You are insufferable in some ways, but I believe you speak truth when talking about doping. The notion that LeMond never took doping products is absurd, and it never ceases to amaze me when people cling to the notion that he won races clean. It beggars belief. Talking to someone who thinks LeMond never doped is like talking to someone who believes Santa is coming down the chimney on Christmas eve.
60kg veiny blood bag
Them cycling gloves do not look natural.
gregs hate is so deep he even tries in a half ass way to bring Induráin into question..raising an eye brow like a clever little fella with all the answers. i love watching interviews with him just to listen to him regurgitate the same tired lines about his lungs and his youthful exploits beating adults etc..pathetic..thanks for shining some real truth on this subject!!
Im sick of the Lemond crap , Hes full of it and he juiced , To beat a juicer you have to JUICE
Yessss he juiced for sure
Lance was rewarded for cheating….
Only in America
I'm doping with beetroot. Give me wings!
Harley the scientist 🧐
Just ask aimir khan about blood doping haha
I wish Greg LeMond would just open up and tell the truth about his time and cycling, before he gets too old and isn’t able to. With the LA drama behind us I feel like him coming clean would be much better received and he wouldn’t be stripped and shunned like LA was.
Good
Greg is the ultimate yellow jersey wearer for sour grapes.... move on dude.
C'è chi ha lematocrito 'oltre 52 naturalmente ( genetico ) li non serve l 'epo.Lemond non so se ce l'hma alcuni proffesionist in diversi sport si e wada rilascia certificati medici dopo test severi .
can't use dope, can't use motor, whats the point then lol
Lemond and Cookie man goes hand in hand . And imean hand in hand in each other shorts 😂
froome and lemond are both clean IMHO
You definitely can win the biggest events in sport with every day hormone levels.
If Santa gives you special shoes, bike, ball, racket or swim cap.
@@durianriders some events and sports you can win naturally, including endurance sports. But Tour de France no chance.
@@durianriders so you believe that tadej pogacar is a cheater - and jonas Vingegaard is a cheater?
"NLM"
Natty Lives Matter.
Go vegan or go vegemite?
Lol!!!
Greg 💉💉Lemond
Bottom line all professional cyclists are on dope 👌
Not all.
ALL sporting champions in ALL big $ events are though.
@@durianriders I don't believe that's the case. I think many are, but not all. High skill sports like tennis or soccer I think it's much less rife - because it's so technical it's probably not enough of a benefit to improve your physicality by 5% or 10% and risk getting caught when you can just be better at the game. For example, a natural Djokovic would still demolish almost all other players if they were doped. You couldn't say that about cycling etc.
@@ln5747A bit naive, the money in sports like tennis and football, means the pressure to cheat is even higher. The pressure of pro tennis is immense, you don't win you don't get paid. The pro tennis tour is a real grind, to keep your fitness for the entire season, irrespective of your hand eye coordination is immense. The testing is a joke, no one wants to bust the big stars, because you destroy the sport, then the money goes down. So there is no motivation to catch cheaters.
@@kevincockburn7805 not naive at all. I've not seen anything to believe people like Djokovic are doping. Top level tennis is still way less demanding than a high level endurance sport, the ability to stay fit is not a problem. One can easily do that workload naturally. More injuries than endurance sport due to the twisting and turning etc, but workload is much lower. Some/many are definitely doping as they've been caught, but I don't believe it's at all necessary to get to the top. Technique will by far outweigh someone having 10% more endurance than you all things being equal.
@@ln5747 I totally disagree, every sport I have ever seen has been polluted by drugs. Let's take baseball, hitting a fast ball is one of the single most skillful feats of hand eye coordination in all of sport. And yet the hitters were doped out of their minds, Barry bonds, Jose conseco junior, mark Maguire etc. So how do you explain their love of the juice, when that is a skill position, a power lifter is not going to be a good batter in major league baseball.