@@DoodlebudI’m sure you could ad lib something ”lathey” from your cordless screwdriver!( I did that, but still have some trouble holding pen parts gently but securely in the chuck)
@@Doodlebud Ah, that's why, I was wondering why an engineer doesn't use a lathe, which would be way more accurate and easier. But well, sometimes a nice improvisation is all you need.
Love the DIY setup, goes a long way to show you don’t always need the fanciest of setups if you use some ingenuity. Looking forward to the long term test results :)
Fascinating! I've often wondered what features affect cap-seal & it's delightful to see the "why" of Pilot's careful design in practice. I aspire to pen-making, so this video will live rent-free in my head for years. Thank you for sharing your work :)
Funny, my Wing Sung 699 are all of them well sealed. I have 3. Keeps for many months without problems. Maybe this problem is batch-related? But I'm still grateful for this tip. GJ.
Great result, only thing I would say is the Conservator's Wax is a petroleum (Naphtha) based product, it's probably safe but over a longer period of time it could degrade some plastics.
i was thinking that the liner was pushing back into the cap and not touching the seal lip anymore. i never thought it would be a messy chamfer! very cool, and happy autumn!
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Lisa here, (since my SO hijacks my youtube account because he doesn’t want to be known to the google). Yeah, you have tens of thousands of viewers, some of which have lathes, and the ability to set that chamfer very precisely, to the thousandth, like my SO, who has a full micro-machining shop, who makes pens sometimes for fun but mostly does restoration of vintage aircraft instruments for museums and used to make stuff for science, some of which is on other planets now for science. He got into pens because I am into pens and has fixed several of mine and made new sections for alternative nib units as well as making me nearly a dozen pens and friends and family another few dozen. He doesn’t actually use pens, he never writes, just types, but he makes a very nice “kitless” pens, the only thing he buy’s are the nib unit or nib and feeds when he makes his own integrated nib units in the section (and spent 30 minutes explaining to me the superiority of that). You aren’t using your UA-cam power very well. You could have had a line of pen makers ready to fix it using the right machines and tools for the job. After showing this video to him, he is both infuriated and impressed with the result given your technique and it’s lack of precision.
The point of this video isn't to show how a proper machining setup could fix the issue. I specifically did it this way so anyone at home could do it too. If I get someone to fix it with a lathe then that doesn't help out anyone else. I thought about 3D printing a fixture to improve the setup, but didn't again since most people don't have something like that available to them. So I did a very crude method but still good enough to fix the issue.
That was great. I thought you would pull out a Dremel with some sort of taped wrapped dowel inserted into the section to hold it. I guess that might be more uncontrolled though. Great solution.
Really interesting, thx for sharing. Might that be the reason for the price gap? The pilot seams to be build on much lower measuring tolerances, that's just more expensive. I'm very curious for the end-result of the test in december.
Need to identify the exact problem to be able to come up with the correct solution. This was the correct solution for this issue, but might need an entirely different approach on the 360
Great demonstration. I have not had the nib drying out. My concern has been whether there rod in the 699 actually seals the barrel. The rod wobbles a bit. Sometimes it seems to work, other times it just misses. Is there anyway you can stabilize the rod to seal properly?
@@Kevinjimtheone you can but it's not a permanent solution not to mention you end up with grease on your fingers and other things you touch. Like I mentioned in the video, grease isn't the best way to fix things
@@Doodlebud not silicon grease. You mentioned that in the video, too. I don't know why would anyone use grease at the tip of the pen. Your hands would always get greasy. I meant something like silicone superglue with powdered rubber or something, for increased elasticity and flexibility of the weld.
@@Kevinjimtheone yup that can work too. VERY tiny concentric and uniform bead would be needed. But it is a bit of a bandaid approach. It's in my nautre to fix the root problem rather than add a fix and leave the existing problem in place if you know what I mean
@@Doodlebud you are correct. I was just trying to think of a more general solution to this issue because this happens all the time with fountain pens. Sometimes, it's when someone is trying to copy a design without understanding why it was made that way, and other times it can be an imperfect design.
@@Doodlebud I don't think they're watching non-Chinese YT content creators with an engineering background, but an incentive program would be super neat. LOL
As a retired lab tech, I truly enjoyed the technical aspects of your video. Great fun and thanks for comparing the options to the Pilot 823 which I consider vastly overpriced.
I was half expecting a lathe to appear out of nowhere, but this solution is really nice for us DIYers. Well done!
Wish I had a Lathe!
@@DoodlebudI’m sure you could ad lib something ”lathey” from your cordless screwdriver!( I did that, but still have some trouble holding pen parts gently but securely in the chuck)
@@Doodlebud Ah, that's why, I was wondering why an engineer doesn't use a lathe, which would be way more accurate and easier. But well, sometimes a nice improvisation is all you need.
Love the DIY setup, goes a long way to show you don’t always need the fanciest of setups if you use some ingenuity. Looking forward to the long term test results :)
I had a few different ways to do it but wanted to do something very simple so anyone could try to DIY if they had the same issue
Fascinating! I've often wondered what features affect cap-seal & it's delightful to see the "why" of Pilot's careful design in practice.
I aspire to pen-making, so this video will live rent-free in my head for years. Thank you for sharing your work :)
Funny, my Wing Sung 699 are all of them well sealed. I have 3. Keeps for many months without problems. Maybe this problem is batch-related? But I'm still grateful for this tip. GJ.
Again, terrific. I love your engineering perspective. Nice job! Great video.
@@morganblarue Figured I might as well fix it instead of complain about it
Naaaah. 823 is always better. Love your content
823 is always better, but if folks have this same issue with their 699 they have a way to fix it
Great result, only thing I would say is the Conservator's Wax is a petroleum (Naphtha) based product, it's probably safe but over a longer period of time it could degrade some plastics.
Hi DB! That was a great fix! I'll have to check my 699 when it arrives. . . .
nice way to improve the pen !!! necessity is the mother of all inventions 💪
If it weren't for problems we'd never come up with solutions
Very cool that you were able to adjust the grip section to better fit the cap liner.
Tiny little detail but makes a huge difference
i was thinking that the liner was pushing back into the cap and not touching the seal lip anymore. i never thought it would be a messy chamfer! very cool, and happy autumn!
What a terrific video! Love your 'handyman' approach! Just bought this pen. Keep up excellent work.
This was a really great video! I would have never thought to do that. I'll be curious to see how it does towards the end of the year.
Hello from the USA! Just wanted to let you know that I used your discount code I found and placed a good size order with Pen Chalet today. Thanks for all your videos! It helps this pen newbie out.
They will be happy for the order and glad to hear the code saved you a few bucks
@@Doodlebud Stay awesome! Stay healthy and safe!
Smart! Here I would have done some sketchy setup with a powerdrill but this seems quite a bit safer!
For some things more power just means you mess it up even quicker 😂
Great problem solving idea.
Lisa here, (since my SO hijacks my youtube account because he doesn’t want to be known to the google). Yeah, you have tens of thousands of viewers, some of which have lathes, and the ability to set that chamfer very precisely, to the thousandth, like my SO, who has a full micro-machining shop, who makes pens sometimes for fun but mostly does restoration of vintage aircraft instruments for museums and used to make stuff for science, some of which is on other planets now for science.
He got into pens because I am into pens and has fixed several of mine and made new sections for alternative nib units as well as making me nearly a dozen pens and friends and family another few dozen. He doesn’t actually use pens, he never writes, just types, but he makes a very nice “kitless” pens, the only thing he buy’s are the nib unit or nib and feeds when he makes his own integrated nib units in the section (and spent 30 minutes explaining to me the superiority of that).
You aren’t using your UA-cam power very well. You could have had a line of pen makers ready to fix it using the right machines and tools for the job.
After showing this video to him, he is both infuriated and impressed with the result given your technique and it’s lack of precision.
The point of this video isn't to show how a proper machining setup could fix the issue. I specifically did it this way so anyone at home could do it too. If I get someone to fix it with a lathe then that doesn't help out anyone else. I thought about 3D printing a fixture to improve the setup, but didn't again since most people don't have something like that available to them. So I did a very crude method but still good enough to fix the issue.
That was great. I thought you would pull out a Dremel with some sort of taped wrapped dowel inserted into the section to hold it. I guess that might be more uncontrolled though. Great solution.
Just needed a tiny adjustment to that profile so slow is the way to go
Thanks Doodlebud, this is a great diy video. 😊
Glad you enjoyed it
Really interesting, thx for sharing.
Might that be the reason for the price gap? The pilot seams to be build on much lower measuring tolerances, that's just more expensive.
I'm very curious for the end-result of the test in december.
Here's a deep dive video I did on the topic
ua-cam.com/video/psX10uaBwfk/v-deo.html
I love your fix it videos. Thank you
I like your ingenious solution!
My Omas 360 also has problems with sealing and drying out. I wonder if I could do something similar with it 🤔
Need to identify the exact problem to be able to come up with the correct solution. This was the correct solution for this issue, but might need an entirely different approach on the 360
Great demonstration. I have not had the nib drying out. My concern has been whether there rod in the 699 actually seals the barrel. The rod wobbles a bit. Sometimes it seems to work, other times it just misses. Is there anyway you can stabilize the rod to seal properly?
Does it not suck up ink or does lit leak? If it doesn't the seals should be all good
Excellent 👌👍
is the Novus polishing compound safe to use on vintage Montblanc ??
My god, you really fixed the thing. It seens to be ok now. We are not sending a pen to the space!
You sound surprised 😅
I have a Majohn A1 with poor sealing. It works great when in use, but a few hours later will have a hard start. How can I identify the problem?
Nicely done. (If only you had a way to make a custom V-block for the job... 😉)
@@michaellew1297 I was tempted to but wanted to show a way that didn't require a 3d printer
Nicely done, great job with just some basic tools. PS: I had to giggle when I saw you confused the pens XD
I looked at it under the loupe and was surprised how quickly the shape was perfect! Then.... Oh wait what?!?!
This is a very interesting and informative video. As is so often the case, the devil is in the details. Many thanks.
good job
Wow, this is great! Definitely earned a sub. Thanks for the vid
Glad you enjoyed the video 👍
1. Success! You win!
2. To my eye the chamfer angles did not look identical?
Would it it be fine if you put a tiny line of silicon at the edge of inner cap to make a seal that way?
@@Kevinjimtheone you can but it's not a permanent solution not to mention you end up with grease on your fingers and other things you touch. Like I mentioned in the video, grease isn't the best way to fix things
@@Doodlebud not silicon grease. You mentioned that in the video, too. I don't know why would anyone use grease at the tip of the pen. Your hands would always get greasy.
I meant something like silicone superglue with powdered rubber or something, for increased elasticity and flexibility of the weld.
@@Kevinjimtheone yup that can work too. VERY tiny concentric and uniform bead would be needed. But it is a bit of a bandaid approach. It's in my nautre to fix the root problem rather than add a fix and leave the existing problem in place if you know what I mean
@@Doodlebud you are correct. I was just trying to think of a more general solution to this issue because this happens all the time with fountain pens.
Sometimes, it's when someone is trying to copy a design without understanding why it was made that way, and other times it can be an imperfect design.
Wing Sung should pay you for troubleshooting and improving their pen.
Would love that but I don't see it happening 🤣
@@Doodlebud I don't think they're watching non-Chinese YT content creators with an engineering background, but an incentive program would be super neat. LOL
Ooft! I think I would've cried if I were in your shoes 🤣 Glad you were able to get it sorted though.
It's just a piece of plastic and it can buff out 😉
What's the mechanical pencil you used in the thumbnail?
Ahhh it actually takes a Pilot inset, its by ensso
www.ensso.com/collections/frontpage/products/uno-xl-minimalist-pen-for-hi-tec-c-stainless-steel
@Doodlebud thank you for the reply!!! I thought it was a new drafting pencil I just had to get my grubby little hands on!!!!
You have a DJ type of voice
huh, good job.
Thanks
Man this is awesome haha!
Knife sharpening tool!
As a retired lab tech, I truly enjoyed the technical aspects of your video. Great fun and thanks for comparing the options to the Pilot 823 which I consider vastly overpriced.
There's this quote I always carry in my mind: "When you want to know how things really work, study them when they're coming apart" .
@@DoodlebudGreat quote! (However I never had the patience to wait for things to fall apart by themselves 😉)
Weird. I’m not ready to get a degree in mechanical engineering so I might possibly understand him. Not a general remark, just this.