@@operatoncreation6396 Is over with extremely restricted emissions, high vehicle tax and mile charge for fuel powered cars. There is no next generation, is a dying breed...
So good to see the J's S2000 on the gunsai again. Hoping to see Techno Pro Spirit's MR-S return and break its 24"937 record as well! Can't wait to see what's done with FEED's FD
I love the fact that these phased out cars still looks amazing. I really hope Japanese automakers focus on performance vehicles again, but with cars heading to the EV direction, that would be unlikely.
EVs will get there eventually. They’re still fairly new and will only get better. Remember the first automobile had a top speed of 10mph and 0.75 horse power.
The new GR86 has extreme potential and has strong chance of reaching 24.x time. The GT86 did a 25.4 on this Touge with the Revolution 86 with only 210hp.
I think the GR line has potential, but it will be the last generation. Every other manufacturer is going for immense weight and immense power. Cayman might be another option too.
Honda also makes the best handling FWD's and the best 4 cylinders engines around, they are truly unmatched in the automotive world. People just love to hate Honda because the "Ricer" stereotype.
If they fixed that rear dampening and rebound with the bumps and jumping it would shave another .3 off I bet. He did that pass with the rear end of the car jumping around the entire time! Insane
There is no way that would happen if timing system would measure time in 0.001 intervals. The timing system they use probably has intervals large enough, like 1/30s, where being close enough gives same exact time.
during the section, FD only shifted twice, 4th to 3rd and 3rd to 2nd, S2000 shifted 4 times, 4th to 3rd, 3rd to 4th, 4th to 3rd and 3rd to 2nd, meaning the FD has better gear ratio for this section, so maybe the FD can be even faster with a little extra downforce
Well indeed there is huge gap of power between these 2 machines. If u watch closely, the S2K slightly faster on corners entry, while FD faster on corner exit.
It's videos like this that show the way real car tuning works. Take driver input based from driving then make adjustments accordingly. Not slapping parts on a slammed car to reverse park it into your favorite mall parking spot.
この年齢でこれをやることに、
いや、神ですわ
魔王比較映像見ると、こっちはここが速くて、あっちはここが速いじゃなくて、どのコーナーも互角の速さで同タイムってのがスゲェ〜
?
Brought a tear to my eye. The greatest generation cars, the greatest racers, the greatest tuners: the attack never ends!
up to the next generation
@@operatoncreation6396
Is over with extremely restricted emissions, high vehicle tax and mile charge for fuel powered cars.
There is no next generation, is a dying breed...
@@mazpr2025 Where is this happening?
@@FightingSportsMedia like everywhere you go, especially europe
I love the fact two different tuners and two different platforms can shoot out and still admire each other’s work.
ドローで2台魔王になって2回目も決着つかずで次にタイムアタックも同タイムは何か運命を感じる。
This just proves how consistent pro drivers' lap times are. Just amazing!
跳ねてる時のステアリングがすごすぎる。
車でもカートでも跳ねの攻略で腕がわかれるよね
かっこいい。日本が誇る土屋。
みんなに向上心をくれる最強の男。
この狭い峠道で130km近く出してからのフルブレーキとか異次元すぎる...
ドリキンも対応してガンガン攻めるからすげぇほんとに
Its so cool to see Tsuchiya still attacking Gunsai even now. Man is a literal racing god.
couldn't agree more
これが、現役引退して還暦を超えた人の走りかよ
マシンが違うとは言え現役ドライバーと同じタイム出せるとかバケモン
毎回思うけど谷口選手ってしなやかな運転や操作するよね
So good to see the J's S2000 on the gunsai again. Hoping to see Techno Pro Spirit's MR-S return and break its 24"937 record as well! Can't wait to see what's done with FEED's FD
Yeah i can't wait for the MR-S, let's just hope the driver can withstand the g-force
@@siontheodorus1501 I don't think the MR-S can go any faster!
do u have link? ive been searching for the mrs 24sec run coz i know ive seen it
@@alexanderwong1069 Indeed, it went 24.937 at Vol 126. You can search for "Best motoring 2014 Part 4" and where he did it starts at 5:20
@@adarshkeswani2319 That MR-S had a bone stock engine, with tires to manage extra power it could definitely go faster
自己ベストと同じタイムを出した瞬間びっくりしたのと、feed FDと同じタイムを出す土屋さんがかっこいい!!
結論、魔王号はすごい。。
J's S2000相変わらずかっこいいし凄い走り。
それにしても「いつでも勝負しますよ。かかってきなさい。」かっこよすぎるでしょ!
バトルでもタイムアタックでもがっぷり四つなのが熱い。
織戸氏がクラッシュしたアルボーS2000も脚の跳ねで試行錯誤していたので繊細な車なのかも知れませんね。
同タイムってことは車の出来もドライバーの腕も全く同じってことだと思う。fdの秘策vs s2000 のギャップ克服した上で同タイムだったらさらにすごい。この四人は本当にすごい
藤田さんのバッチバチに燃えてるの好きだなぁ
車もドリキンもすごすぎる
はねなきゃいけるってワードがすげえ
峠をこの速度で走り続けられる土屋さんの集中力凄いすぎます!
凄いな!
難しい群サイで同タイムでる事が・・・痺れたね!
あの跳ねさえなければだな
車も車で凄いけどこの齢にして24秒台で車を操る土屋さんが一番やばい。
土屋さんのテクニックがすごい。コーナーの入りで跳ねるから、あえてアクセルオフしてる。
2台の車も凄いけど、土屋さんの年齢考えて動体視力と腕が既に 魔王なんよw
Hi from Canada 🇨🇦 I have been watching Best Motoring for years. How old is he?
@@ESR66 He is over 60.
@@ESR66 He is 65 years old……
かなり跳ねてるにも関わらずしっかり踏んでるってことは、それだけ信頼して踏んでいけるような車をj's racingが造ってるってことなんですよね…
でも、何より土屋さんだからこそ魔王号の速さを引き出せてるんだと感じる…そんな動画でした。
個人的に何度でも見たくなる動画の一つです!
マジでJsのS2000好きすぎる一生かっこいいわ
車もドライバーもバケモンすぎる...。
それにしてもS2000は本当にかっこいい。
速すぎて怖いってコメントが凄さを物語りますね。
ターボvsNA至高の対決
Holy hell the fact the S2000 still holds up to this day is incredible.
ストレートもあるのにターボと同タイムだせるS2もやばい
I love the fact that these phased out cars still looks amazing. I really hope Japanese automakers focus on performance vehicles again, but with cars heading to the EV direction, that would be unlikely.
EVs will get there eventually. They’re still fairly new and will only get better. Remember the first automobile had a top speed of 10mph and 0.75 horse power.
The new GR86 has extreme potential and has strong chance of reaching 24.x time. The GT86 did a 25.4 on this Touge with the Revolution 86 with only 210hp.
I think the GR line has potential, but it will be the last generation. Every other manufacturer is going for immense weight and immense power. Cayman might be another option too.
みんなの目がキラキラしてるのが良い。。
10:11 Eurobeat as ending theme brings a tear to my eye. These videos are awesome. As usual Japan on top on this kind of quality content.
アップ感謝です
やっぱこの2台は最高
魔王同士のTIME争い奇跡の1000分の1秒まで同タイムに痺れました
トップコメントがネタバレで草
トップコメントを避けられぬiPhone
コメント主が悪い訳では無いけど、ネタバレが残念💦
Who would’ve thought that the one modern RWD car Honda makes is one of the best cars ever made.
They make NSX also but the 2000 is a better car u think
Honda also makes the best handling FWD's and the best 4 cylinders engines around, they are truly unmatched in the automotive world.
People just love to hate Honda because the "Ricer" stereotype.
It's crazy how the driver cam can make it look like he could push harder but then you see the flyby and he's going SO FAST
NAでこんなに早いのさすがホンダ🥰
NAサウンド堪らない✨🎵
HONDA最高ですね!
ハイカム有りのVTECの生産を是非復活させて欲しいですね!
It's amazing how evenly j's and feed built their machines
しかし、やっぱりS2000カッコいいなぁ!
バトルでもタイムでも、ってこんなことあるのかw
結果が出た時鳥肌が止まらなかった。
Love how much respect there is between driver and tuner!
Arigatou Hot Version for reuploading in Public
世界最高の車UA-camチャンネル
FEEDはパワーもあるし動きもしなやか、しかもさらに伸びしろがある
対してs2はコース外に吹っ飛んでいきそうな危うさがあるし足が合ってないんだね
DKが言うように跳ねが抑えられてしなやかな足になったらまだ伸びるだろうしまたこの2台に期待
s2000はNAだから
この速さはチート^^
レボリューションといいなんで跳ねる足持ってくるんでしょう
@@きりまるっ
足の構造的にストロークさせた方がトラクションかかる車と逆にストロークさせずにアライメント変化を起こさない方が良い車があるので仕方ないです。つまり簡単に言うとガチガチの足にしないとタイム出ない車は足回り設計のジオメトリーが劣ってるって事です。こればっかりはレーシングカーみたいにアームの取り付け位置等を変更しない限りはどうしようもないです。
As an S2000 fan and owner I very much enjoyed watching this!
全員目がキラキラしててかっこいい!!
もはや神の領域すぎて脳がついていけん
決着付かずにずっとバチバチやってて欲しいw
双璧として
音と楽しさと見た目は圧勝
やっぱS2最高😭✨
単走でラップタイム競ってるんだから
速いのなんてもはや当然なんだけど、
その中でも本当に「速い」って
こういうことなんだなって
思い知らされてる気がする
車でタイヤ4本地面に着けてるはずなのに
滑空してるみたいにスっ…と居なくなる
もうそんなんだったら
目で追いつかないとか、凄いとかじゃなくて
怖い
魔王を自分の手足の如く使い倒す土屋圭一さんが真の魔王説。
Without force induction it is impressive even if it did not beat feed's time.
こんな細い道の峠で140も出せるの凄すぎる
感動しました
この2台は見せてくれるね〜!
接戦とは正にこのバトルのこと!!
2 of the finest tuner cars to ever run the course..
By arguably the greatest driver ever..
It seems Gunsai has reached its limit !!
If they fixed that rear dampening and rebound with the bumps and jumping it would shave another .3 off I bet. He did that pass with the rear end of the car jumping around the entire time! Insane
What are the odds of him exactly matching two records down to the thousandth of a second?
god knows
There is no way that would happen if timing system would measure time in 0.001 intervals. The timing system they use probably has intervals large enough, like 1/30s, where being close enough gives same exact time.
Almost impossible😂😂😂
Small ;)
Basically none
during the section, FD only shifted twice, 4th to 3rd and 3rd to 2nd, S2000 shifted 4 times, 4th to 3rd, 3rd to 4th, 4th to 3rd and 3rd to 2nd, meaning the FD has better gear ratio for this section, so maybe the FD can be even faster with a little extra downforce
Well indeed there is huge gap of power between these 2 machines. If u watch closely, the S2K slightly faster on corners entry, while FD faster on corner exit.
The rivalry between these two Maou continues yet again.
こんな狭い峠道で170キロ超えからブレーキングしてコーナー突っ込むとかやばすぎ
Unbelievable great!
But still sitting here and wait for yashio factory touge spec car 😎
SR20 ftw!!!
ドリキン凄すぎるわ……
すごいな、ジェイズ渾身の…。FEEDが仕上げたFDとのガチ勝負
いやーすげえわ。
すごい
感動した
最後の藤田さんの「かかって来なさい」がカッコよすぎる……✨
Thank you for the English subtitles 🍻
梅本さんも藤田さんも、何十年後かあの世行っても同じことやってそう
I love you guys, you are absolute legends!!!....best regards from Croatia
スンゲードラテクカッコいいっす🎵
プロドライバーって凄いな!
What a great effort, love the spirit and how close they both are
Can't wait for the next season of this anime, the rx7 revenge arc 😅 good stuff
I just hope that they don't use the "POWER OF FRIENDSHIP" excuse like the other anime did.
Come on honda make a mk2 s2000. Look at how iconic this car still is to this day, and how well it keeps up.
バンバン跳ねててよく踏んでいけるなあ()
跳ねが良くなればもうちょいいけそうに見えなくもないけど…
1本目から26.3ほんとに危ない領域だよ…
車検対応ストリートカー企画じゃない
サムネバカかっこいい!
以前J'sのラジアル用の足を使っていたけど実際一般道でも跳ねまくってた。足の固さは毎回指摘されてるので開発者の好みなのかもね。
This S2000 sounds so good, nothing like a race motor in a road car
年齢とマシンの許容範囲を考えたら、ホントの『峠の魔王』は『土屋圭市』その人なんじゃねぇ〜のかな?
ノブをS2に乗せたらどうだろうって考える人も多いと思うけど、あの跳ねるマシンじゃ、ノブは決して無理してまでは踏まないと思う。ビビって踏めないとかじゃなくて、ノブの場合はまだ現役で背負ってるモノも大きいしね。現状のセッティングであそこまで踏めるのはやっぱり、突き抜けた時のドリキンだけだと思うね。
こう見るとFDはめちゃ安定してるな〜
S2が跳ねなくなったらめちゃ速そう
The Naruto and Sasuke of the Gunsai Touge always have the same fate.
They pull eachother along like magnets
It’s beautiful to see how grateful everyone is regarding the drift master.
That's pretty amazing he had an identical lap time.
車載見ると藤田FDのがかなり安心感あるな。
同タイムだけど、多分DKのが命削ってると思う。老い先短いのに…笑
ほんとそう思う。
マシンとしてのポテンシャルは藤田FD。
This car is so beautiful
It's videos like this that show the way real car tuning works. Take driver input based from driving then make adjustments accordingly. Not slapping parts on a slammed car to reverse park it into your favorite mall parking spot.
Thank you!!! 🙏🏻
These cars are truly legends
These two builders, J's Racing and Fujita Engineering, they are Snake and Mongoose!
Perfect analogy
It would be more thrill to watch if Tanabe-san from Amuse Powerhouse is still around. May hope rest in peace for him.
I wanna see the Spirit MR-S come back to Gunsai
Dori dori your the best!!!
世の中の同世代がコンビニに突っ込んでいく中、ただ一人限界スピードで峠のコーナーに突っ込んでいく漢。
Love you DK! Keep it UP!!
The FEED FD run side by side seems alot less manic on the limit compared to the S2K...awesome vid
yes s2k looks more like a track setup. the fd is perfect for the touge
@@frieddayfriday Because it is. The S2K is an "almost race car" and barely described as a legal street car while the FD is FEED owner's own daily car.
百戦錬磨のドライバーが速すぎて怖いって凄過ぎる。
チューニングカーGT選手権とか開催したら楽しそう😁実際のタイヤ交換+ドライバー交代も含めて🌟かつてのGT選手権の名場面が蘇る✨それにしてもJSさんのS2000は速いよ〜❗イニシャルdでJSさんのS2000とバトルしたけどコーナーが速すぎる😱
I hope that REamemiya will come to break the record.