@@fotis3v480 I'm just laughing at how fragile the archetype ecosystem always seems to be; always shifting ranges, decimal places in the damage model, aim assist, etc. Never getting it *just* right, and then releasing another meta perk/gun to mess up the balance again.
@@MemoriesAreLost D2 is one of the most uncompetitive games on the market, as long as something's isn't suffocating everything then tbh idc. They could literally just reduce the weapon archetypes if they don't wanna balance as much tbh.
@@MemoriesAreLost every shooter games has a fragile line between balance and broken. Look at cod or even xdefiant one wrong move and the meta Swift completely
Cross it’s okay you don’t have to act like a titan main for our sake, if you come out the closet and admit to being a warlock main we will still accept you
@@jimmcmeen761chill dude, it's not that deep. People can main different subclasses over different periods as metas come and go, but they can still have a favourite one
Why are people that think the game is dead even click on these vids to comment. It cost nothing not to and leave people enjoy the content in peace. That is just pathetic
I’m thinking they’ll add iron banner to a weekend card style similar to trials but 6V6, probably give Iron Banner a lighthouse but instead call it the Felwinters Peak so you can get adebt iron banner gear
Theres a reason theres still like 30k players online at a time(that is NOT a dead game, unless you're top 1% you still find games very quickly, stop capping.) I personally have taken a very ling break, but we gotta stop insilting people for enjoying a game
@thenexus7343 I think people aren't really insulting but if they are they should do something better with their time. I think the player base is bringing up stuff like this because it's at its lowest player count ever in it's history currently and so the game can improve in the long run.
I'm tired of all the negative comments. Been playing destiny since Crota and I'm still not bored. No other game like it and pvp is still enjoyable for us regular joes.
Me to chief, got 5300 hours in this game. Play crucible mainly 3v3 and never get bored. Only frustrated if it's a bad streak. Still feckin love trials.
the kill at 4:23 is wild. You can see that cross didnt even have his crosshair on the dude, and the bullet decals were on the wall. Yet he got the kill and the decals disappeared lmao
Cross, I think a video that summarizes recent and Revenant weapon changes would help those of us coming back. Love the content. Glad you're ok after the Hurricane.
I’m still enjoying D2 especially PVP but I’m also enjoying other games more now. I’m not calling this game dead but after all these years them new seasonal updates are a must or I will get bored fast.
I think that auto is actually in a good spot nowdays.. Y'all remember when this thing first came out? It was ridiculously strong. It was beyond broken, crazy range, crazy damage, no reload time at all and stupidly easy to use.
I haven’t seen the full vid but I’m assuming that cross is basically saying that when Centrifuse gets its next buff, (which it kind of needs one) it’s going to be really good. In other words, Centrifuse is one buff away from being meta
TWID 09/26/24 From the Sandbox Changes' section: "Precisions Auto Rifles Base Damage from 19 to 19.4, Critical Hit Damage from 33.6 to 33.95. Reduces the nerf they received in Into the Light by ~50%."
Everyone was shitting on Hunter’s for “ability spamming” This though, This is a perfect example of Warlocks and Titans always having the upper hand with abilities. Deployable shields, magic balls shooting your opponents… yet no one see’s a problem with this. 😐
I hope the hive boomer moth special launcher gets buffed, or at the very least a big increase to its reserves. That thing is complete ass outside of a motherkeepers wraps build and even still it runs out of ammo far too quickly against anything more tanky than a room of dregs.
I don't think I've seen cross suck off a weapon quite like Centrifuse. Just before Act III, Centrifuse this, Centrifuse that. Hardly anyone uses it though it's a very viable option. Now he's at it again. This is his next Runescape.
Yooo Cross, it'd be sick to see you do a card with Sturm/Drang. I don't like drang over my heliocentric, but 39m of two tap range with Sturm goes hard in this pulse rifle meta where peakshooting w 140s is a bit sketchier.
These already melt. Even after the nerf all you need is a small buff to dominate. With how easy surges and radiant are to get right now theyre still good options.
My favorite d1 exotic. If they re-worked it with something like a different firing mode option like when u hold reload it goes into an onslaught type speed of firing mode but about 1 1/2 speed of onslaught and also fired enhanced solar slugs that scorch and ignite targets when they explode upon impact spreading scorch to near by targets as well. If they really want to get creative and make it just a little more deadly and more fun to use they could make it so that landing 3 slugs on a single target triggers a massive solar explosion or landing 70% of the pellets in a shot loads an explosive solar slug for the next shot that dose massive damage to the target and spreads scorch to near by targets as well.
@@BoxPounder Nahh - from my frequency of deaths, Hunters are by far the most dangerous still. That fucking teleporting Super for arc Hunter has killed me more times than anything else
Of course, you’re completely correct. But Hunter movement and play styles are easier to be comfortable with in PVP, so more people use them, leading to more for people to complain about that ultimately is a skill issue and not a balance issue. RIP 90% of the function of Threaded Specter
Problem is the range on this thing is ass. Yes it has absurd stbaility, but it's a precision. Stability is like the least important thing. Low stability 450s still barely move.
I'm not sure what you guys are smoking with you think people don't want to play iron banner for two weeks... IB ques are always full trials is empty.. numbers don't lie.
Bro I will say it now and I will say it on my dying hill: Marathon will be incredible. Why? Cuz 10 years of negative gunk has clouded your eyes from the fact that bungies gunplay is the best in the industry. As a business, valen verga (they fucking such but in spanish) But as far as how the game actually plays? let’s just say we are eating so good we have taken it for granted.
@@hectornieves537 that’s the one thing they got going for them is the gameplay they pioneered. I know the crucible is a nightmare to balance with the amount of perks and builds you can merc with. With marathon it seems their focus is mostly PvP and some E mechanics. Easier to balance if things break
Not even 50k players (all platforms) who playing this game, and the numbers are still dropping. Game is finished. Doesnt take long anymore before the servers are permanent down. Bungie drastically have to make a 180 or its done. I honestly already think its way to late for them to turn the tides. Go woke go broke.
Yet again, I stare at the comments filled with shilling, as people continue to be needlessly defend this game and allow a multi billion dollar corporation with thousands of employees spanning DECADES of experience on a nearly 30 year old engine. What's the excuse? 5 man dev teams put more content out then bungie x.x
@@lostprospector7914 Without negativity we would still be on: Double primary XP throttling abilities doing nothing in pve no go fast update no new pvp maps no new strikes no new dungeons Final shape would have no duality mission Salvations edge would have no verity No exotic catalysts No bad luck protection for raid exotics Stop blanket labeling any and all criticism as negativity. That's what prevents bungie from hearing feedback. Need the list to have a few hundred / thousand more issues that we'd still have without complaining?
@@Parmesan.314 Did I say it was dead? No Did you ignore all the points I made just to strawman the argument into ‘well u only say dead.’ Yes. Yes you did. Try again maybe without the fallacy 😭
No one wants to play trials either!! No one wants to play the game right now.. The new season will bring everyone back for 20 minutes.. even Cross quit after his card, he couldn’t be bothered..
Yea and so Certrifuge isn’t like a Warframe weapon where you can clean the room in a matter of seconds. Come and join us at Warframe where the craftining is always here the exploration of builds are always here and crazier than Destiny’s. Time to play instead of ignoring it.
Nerf 450s, they're too powerful
Buff 450s, they're underperforming
This is like 6 months apart.
37m auto rifles with the easiest archetype to use is kinda iffy.
Almost like 340 pulses:p.
They should be fine next patch without being obnoxious.
@@fotis3v480 I'm just laughing at how fragile the archetype ecosystem always seems to be; always shifting ranges, decimal places in the damage model, aim assist, etc. Never getting it *just* right, and then releasing another meta perk/gun to mess up the balance again.
@@MemoriesAreLost D2 is one of the most uncompetitive games on the market, as long as something's isn't suffocating everything then tbh idc.
They could literally just reduce the weapon archetypes if they don't wanna balance as much tbh.
Bungie for ya. This has been happening for years
@@MemoriesAreLost every shooter games has a fragile line between balance and broken. Look at cod or even xdefiant one wrong move and the meta Swift completely
Cross it’s okay you don’t have to act like a titan main for our sake, if you come out the closet and admit to being a warlock main we will still accept you
Look at the “titan main” in a dress again
It's not my fault our dresses look cool!
He can’t deny his true identity anymore
Dude is full of it. I never see him run a titan. It’s fine but he really needs to quit calling himself that…. Ok warlock almost every video he does
@@toastedslimeofficialomg
@@jimmcmeen761chill dude, it's not that deep. People can main different subclasses over different periods as metas come and go, but they can still have a favourite one
Why are people that think the game is dead even click on these vids to comment. It cost nothing not to and leave people enjoy the content in peace. That is just pathetic
Real
Fair, but them leaving those comments actually helps the creator (algorithmic reasons)
yeah, I guess they want the game to be dead, they want to make the ones that still enjoy the game leave to play other games
That’s the destiny community bruh. “WHAT YOU ENJOY THE GAME??!?” Then proceed to focus on all the problems instead of even noticing one positive.
@@wesley.zago120Cough cough Warframe
I’m thinking they’ll add iron banner to a weekend card style similar to trials but 6V6, probably give Iron Banner a lighthouse but instead call it the Felwinters Peak so you can get adebt iron banner gear
That sounds like a plan
Put this man in charge^
Like your train of thought....would love to go back to the Iron Lord Temple
🔥🔥🔥🗣️
Theres a reason theres still like 30k players online at a time(that is NOT a dead game, unless you're top 1% you still find games very quickly, stop capping.) I personally have taken a very ling break, but we gotta stop insilting people for enjoying a game
@@Axisoflordsuhhh no?
@thenexus7343 I think people aren't really insulting but if they are they should do something better with their time. I think the player base is bringing up stuff like this because it's at its lowest player count ever in it's history currently and so the game can improve in the long run.
@@Axisoflordshow do you check those numbers ? Real questions
Facts though
30k players is absolutely a dead game. Wth yall smoking. 😂.
I'm tired of all the negative comments. Been playing destiny since Crota and I'm still not bored. No other game like it and pvp is still enjoyable for us regular joes.
Me to chief, got 5300 hours in this game. Play crucible mainly 3v3 and never get bored. Only frustrated if it's a bad streak. Still feckin love trials.
Nobody makes you read negative comments. Just play the game and let people have different opinions.
@@jamal3298 so he is not aloud an opinion? 🤔
@@specky3flush345 Tell me where I said that in my comment.
@jamal3298 let's be honest here. Spreading hate isn't a great look. If you don't like something you're better off just moving on
Dead dead oh no never it is
I love it more than ever and the future looks bright😊
Looking forward to the new episode.
the kill at 4:23 is wild. You can see that cross didnt even have his crosshair on the dude, and the bullet decals were on the wall. Yet he got the kill and the decals disappeared lmao
Yeah he CLEARLY missed that shot lmao. Plenty of times I’ve shot like that though and it’s counted as a whiff. Smh
Cross, I think a video that summarizes recent and Revenant weapon changes would help those of us coming back. Love the content. Glad you're ok after the Hurricane.
Think he made that vid a few days ago.
Aztec the warlock main
Fr
Warlocks are the best class in the game. Hunters are for nubs and titans are fine.
Cross it's time to revoke your hammer titan card and give it to Izaihaa
Fr haha!
Frost got that late night radio host voice playing the 80s -90s soft rock love songs.
The most convoluted weapon sandbox in gaming history
I’m still enjoying D2 especially PVP but I’m also enjoying other games more now. I’m not calling this game dead but after all these years them new seasonal updates are a must or I will get bored fast.
12:01 the real last sunbreaker left
I think that auto is actually in a good spot nowdays.. Y'all remember when this thing first came out? It was ridiculously strong. It was beyond broken, crazy range, crazy damage, no reload time at all and stupidly easy to use.
tons guns bungie release are broken at launch. To draw players in but then they always nerf it later. Especially seasonal weapons.
You inspired me to jump into trials with this gun and my Shinobu's build. Thanks Cross 🤘
Centrifuge is just the most fun auto to use in pvp.
“Fucking melee coming around the corner.”
As he comes around the corner with that fucking melee:
Frost and Cross combo always puts a smile on my face! ❤
If I wasn't a huge Titan main...... I hate warlocks and still envy their little floaty things.
Frost with the “good dolphin”
The music really sends this
I love watching cross and frost play man peak content all the time!
So happy i never lost hope in this gun, i have almost 200,000 kills with it😂
Frostcross?
Aztebolt?
🤔🤔🤔
FroCro?
Crossbolt?
Aztefrost?
I've been playing too much Warframe, and I thought he finally posted his first play session of it for a second there.
Did I miss something? How is Centrifuse getting a buff?
Artifact mods
I haven’t seen the full vid but I’m assuming that cross is basically saying that when Centrifuse gets its next buff, (which it kind of needs one) it’s going to be really good. In other words, Centrifuse is one buff away from being meta
Damage buff to 450 autos
TWID 09/26/24
From the Sandbox Changes' section:
"Precisions Auto Rifles
Base Damage from 19 to 19.4, Critical Hit Damage from 33.6 to 33.95.
Reduces the nerf they received in Into the Light by ~50%."
Do you not know how to use the gun?
Cross on his true main! Lock!! 💪
a primary ammo shotgun in the heavy slot in PVP. yeah sign me up
Yes
Everyone was shitting on Hunter’s for “ability spamming” This though, This is a perfect example of Warlocks and Titans always having the upper hand with abilities. Deployable shields, magic balls shooting your opponents… yet no one see’s a problem with this. 😐
I hope the hive boomer moth special launcher gets buffed, or at the very least a big increase to its reserves. That thing is complete ass outside of a motherkeepers wraps build and even still it runs out of ammo far too quickly against anything more tanky than a room of dregs.
Hey that’s me getting absolutely beat on in that bonus game 😂
Damn Cross. you were COOKING
I don't think I've seen cross suck off a weapon quite like Centrifuse.
Just before Act III, Centrifuse this, Centrifuse that. Hardly anyone uses it though it's a very viable option. Now he's at it again. This is his next Runescape.
Its not confusing that people say destiny is a dead game when people nowadays think helldivers 2 is dead with 40k+ consistnet players
Yooo Cross, it'd be sick to see you do a card with Sturm/Drang. I don't like drang over my heliocentric, but 39m of two tap range with Sturm goes hard in this pulse rifle meta where peakshooting w 140s is a bit sketchier.
Great video I needed this
7 years old Game when the it has 30k plus player: ded game, what?
I thought the overcharge meter was the special ammo meter and went to check the date of the video
Frost carried the whole trials card
They spent the entire year of lightfall nerfing 450s just to now say they are underperforming and needs a buff
We need universal remote and exactly how cross described it!
Guys 30k players is just the steam player count, console has a big player base to triple that 30k 👍🏼 Not Dead
Excellent, a centrifuse buff, just in time for all of the autorifle and arc mods to disappear from the seasonal artefact, well done great stuff.
These already melt. Even after the nerf all you need is a small buff to dominate. With how easy surges and radiant are to get right now theyre still good options.
Cross....what's up with that supersoft "Yahh!" @ 7:41? You needed your supplements or something? LOL
Zhalo minicell
I haven't even prepared my bounties yet lol been on other PS5 games ill start my prep Tuesday maybe Monday idk yet
Forget universal remote, what about invective? 5:40
My favorite d1 exotic. If they re-worked it with something like a different firing mode option like when u hold reload it goes into an onslaught type speed of firing mode but about 1 1/2 speed of onslaught and also fired enhanced solar slugs that scorch and ignite targets when they explode upon impact spreading scorch to near by targets as well. If they really want to get creative and make it just a little more deadly and more fun to use they could make it so that landing 3 slugs on a single target triggers a massive solar explosion or landing 70% of the pellets in a shot loads an explosive solar slug for the next shot that dose massive damage to the target and spreads scorch to near by targets as well.
Bro where does cross get his synthwave music. It’s always so good
Not sure where he get his but i listen alot to marvel83. Its alot of the same ish music
To be honest I really wanted that one guy to cook y'all, respectfully😂😂😂!
If it ain’t zhalo I ain’t using it
I miss that electric AK so much.
@@Mauzeyman I always used to say if red death comes back zhalo will too. I think we’ll see it eventually!
Zhalo will definitely return eventually
@@martiben1896 Red death is my favorite gun of all time, too. So here's hoping.
I hope they bring it back as a pulse
CRONUS ZEN JOGA MUITO
Trying to convince my dungeon teammates to bounty prep, gunna beat you to the worlds first
Ya’ll complaning about hunters, i actually think warlocks are worse, an arcsoul, hellion and lightning surge is a nightmare to fight against!
I’m waiting for people to realize how busted prismatic titan and prismatic warlock are
@@BoxPounder Nahh - from my frequency of deaths, Hunters are by far the most dangerous still. That fucking teleporting Super for arc Hunter has killed me more times than anything else
Of course, you’re completely correct. But Hunter movement and play styles are easier to be comfortable with in PVP, so more people use them, leading to more for people to complain about that ultimately is a skill issue and not a balance issue.
RIP 90% of the function of Threaded Specter
@@BoxPounderI gotta be deaf but did I just catch you calling prismatic titans op? Nah we can't have that...
Warlocks are about to get 50% DMG resist while sliding through a Titan barricade next season. That is just borderline criminal.
4:24 that should have missed but aperrantly it's a hit with enouth to kill
You get people online in your clan?!
Warlock main cross👾🖤
Day one of asking cross to do a video on the finals
www.youtube.com/@AztecrossGaming/search?query=finals
What’s this community clan? I want in.
Izaihaa legend
Was there defeats and card wipes they didn’t show or do these guys just play 7 games. Win. Then done?
Problem is the range on this thing is ass. Yes it has absurd stbaility, but it's a precision. Stability is like the least important thing. Low stability 450s still barely move.
This man is rocking two buddies solar and arc 😂😂😂 Bungie gotta fix this or give Titan the broken one eye mask back
Whitney Stravenue
music in point
Ay yo, i play most days send me that Cross Clan invite.
Centrifuge
Centrifuse is so uggo. I just can't. Fashion >>>> DPS
More trials cross!!!
If we talking D1 exotics i want brought back give me Pocket infinity
lightning surge is so overtuned in pvp
People are still playing Trials?
People are still playing destiny 2? 👀
And bring back no land
I'm not sure what you guys are smoking with you think people don't want to play iron banner for two weeks... IB ques are always full trials is empty.. numbers don't lie.
5:22 Why Walrock main? 😂😂😂
Cause it f*cks
Where the F is the comments that says dead game???
Why? Everyone already knows it is. No one have to comment that anymore.
Lynch Flat
Love your content man keep it up your vids are awesome 😃
Has anyone got a destiny clan that i can join, im on ps5 FRIZZ#1845
If you’re still looking for clan lmk we can add you to ours. What do you play more pvp or pve?
Bro I will say it now and I will say it on my dying hill: Marathon will be incredible. Why? Cuz 10 years of negative gunk has clouded your eyes from the fact that bungies gunplay is the best in the industry.
As a business, valen verga (they fucking such but in spanish)
But as far as how the game actually plays?
let’s just say we are eating so good we have taken it for granted.
@rodrigocardona7807 I hope so considering it already got delayed once and consumed years of resources.
@@hectornieves537 that’s the one thing they got going for them is the gameplay they pioneered. I know the crucible is a nightmare to balance with the amount of perks and builds you can merc with.
With marathon it seems their focus is mostly PvP and some E mechanics.
Easier to balance if things break
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>clicks on video
>saw that it's trials
>clicks off video
Woah really ? Tell us some more.
@@TheGUNSLAYER7Don't even bother with him lmao. He's weird
@@TheGUNSLAYER7 Spotted the trials enjoyer x.x
@@AlckeeSome people aren't disabled and can play both pve and PvP.
@@TheGUNSLAYER7 trials main spotted lol
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I will never stop hating that trash autorifle
Insert “I hate Destiny” comment hete
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Not even 50k players (all platforms) who playing this game, and the numbers are still dropping. Game is finished. Doesnt take long anymore before the servers are permanent down. Bungie drastically have to make a 180 or its done. I honestly already think its way to late for them to turn the tides. Go woke go broke.
Bro take your meds, the game is alive and bungie has announced expansions, changes, and improvements
Yet again, I stare at the comments filled with regret, as people continue to be needlessly negative about this game
It’s crazy how people who claim to love the game can’t see how their constant negativity is what’s killing the game
Yet again, I stare at the comments filled with shilling, as people continue to be needlessly defend this game and allow a multi billion dollar corporation with thousands of employees spanning DECADES of experience on a nearly 30 year old engine. What's the excuse? 5 man dev teams put more content out then bungie x.x
@@lostprospector7914 Without negativity we would still be on:
Double primary
XP throttling
abilities doing nothing in pve
no go fast update
no new pvp maps
no new strikes
no new dungeons
Final shape would have no duality mission
Salvations edge would have no verity
No exotic catalysts
No bad luck protection for raid exotics
Stop blanket labeling any and all criticism as negativity. That's what prevents bungie from hearing feedback. Need the list to have a few hundred / thousand more issues that we'd still have without complaining?
@@Alckeesaying over and over that destiny is dead is not constructive criticism, it's annoying and does nothing to help Bungie improve destiny
@@Parmesan.314 Did I say it was dead? No
Did you ignore all the points I made just to strawman the argument into ‘well u only say dead.’ Yes. Yes you did. Try again maybe without the fallacy 😭
No one wants to play trials either!! No one wants to play the game right now.. The new season will bring everyone back for 20 minutes.. even Cross quit after his card, he couldn’t be bothered..
I want to play
@@jessevisceration there are outliers, but the player pool is small. It really isn’t up for debate..
@@jamescarvill5075 but why do you care so much?
i want to play
Dead game
im starting to think its just trash rage bait at this point
@dumki164 trash rage bait youtubers and streamers keep shipping this slop to make a livelyhood being sponsored by Bungie.
Yea and so Certrifuge isn’t like a Warframe weapon where you can clean the room in a matter of seconds. Come and join us at Warframe where the craftining is always here the exploration of builds are always here and crazier than Destiny’s. Time to play instead of ignoring it.
I mean if he does if not he don't it's really his choice, he's not ignoring it
You seem so bored Cross
hi
Sup