Chernobyl 1x05 'Vichnaya Pamyat' REACTION part 2
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A great companion documentary to this series is the Episode "A is for Atom" from Adam Curtis's Pandora's Box anthology series. Covers the development of nuclear power both in the West and the Soviet Union showing the shortcomings of each, which will go on to cause both Chernobyl and later Fukushima. It can be found on UA-cam.
Another good documentary is 'Chernobyl 3828' using real life footage of those that had the clear the graphite off the roof of Masha, when the German police robot failed to do so.
you must get into a leadership role..... immediately
this was pretty fun series. i wish they did season 2 about Fukushima
What an exceptional series. Fantastic reaction. I suggest you check out a film called Silkwood from 1983 starring Meryl Streep, Cher and Kurt Russel. If you like sci fi please try the Expanse.
"And now they made a show about him. Take that!" Beautiful, beautiful girl. You get it.
Is she just not stunningly beautiful?!!!?
"You're not brave, you're not heroic, you're just a dying man who forgot himself"
* After his death, awarded the title Hero of The Soviet Federation.
I'm really glad after seeing how uncertain you were following the first episode how much you grew to love this show. I was worried you weren't going to like it. It's such a well done show. The cinematography, the score, the script and the acting, just a masterclass. And worse than any horror film, because it truly happened. Everyone should see this at least once.
In the end... dont be afraid of nuclear energy.. be afraid of stupid people... =)
The will always be stupid people. But we can remove nuclear power.
Greed, lies and arrogance will lead to other desasters like this. A mistake in nuclear power is no joke
@@Hadrian9707 - Curious why you leave out molten core. Explosion is, indeed, most likely a thing to happen twice, although in the case of TMI the hydrogen explosion was juuuuust below the max. limit for the containment. A few hours later and with more hydrogen to participate ...
You might want to look at the cancer studies around the Harrisburg area to educate yourself exactly how safe nucelar energy is ... Fukushima has had the advantage of not being close to a town so most of the radioactive material ended up in the ocean.
IRL human trash is the biggest cancer of the entire universe
Interesting fact: Dyatlov was released from prison in 1990. He never accepted responsibility for the failure. He wrote a book, where he blames the construction of power plant.
Is that so? To be fair, he only caused all the conditions for the disaster for be a possibility, and they definitely portray him as a horrible person, but in the end it would be unfair to put all the blame on him alone knowing the reactors had a flaw that made the disaster a reality.
@@David_C_83 it's how HBO portray him. It is not fully the true. You can watch 1-hour interview with Dyatlov on youtube. Its very interesting video. You can see him from the other side.
To be fair, he was just doing as instructions prescribed, he didn't devise the test himself.
@@Rammstein0963. But he did break pretty much all safety protocols. Dyatlov himself said: "I will not say I'm guilty, but I cannot say I'm innocent."
Vichnaya Pamyat... Memory Eternal. Weird to think that there's regions in Europe gathering mushrooms or hunting game is still dangerous to this day. I think in Norway and Finland there's an annual check on how much radioactivity deer have taken in by eating lichen.
I think that's true. I recall at the time that they were hand feeding reindeer in Finland because the lichen was radioactive. Even in Australia there were warnings about buying dried herbs that had been imported from contaminated areas in Europe. It was truly a world wide event. I didn't know before seeing this show just how close things got to making a good part of eastern Europe uninhabitable. The point about making this a drama and not just a documentary is a good one. It is an important story to tell.
We still do that in Sweden. Wild game hunted in some regions are checked with dosimeters if it is safe. When I was young I used to make a fair bit of money from foraging, blue berries, lingon berries, cloud berries, porcini, chanterelles, etc. We were forbidden from going into parts of the forest. I've fought off cancer twice in my life, so far. Vichnaya Pamyat indeed.
The Control Room scenes are based upon interviews with the people who were actually in the Control Room on the night and are therefore a realistic representation as to what happened. Good intelligent review of an outstanding TV mini series. There are podcasts on YT in which the production staff talk about the making of the series.
Lovely reaction to a powerful ending and series. So glad you came around to really liking this series after ep 1. This show was probably eye opening to many, even for a lot of us who were alive at the time but didn't find out just how bad it got until years later.
There's a monument to the Chernobyl liquidators. The inscription reads "To those who saved the world."
Story like this tells us , never let the Government have the power that is more then REALLY necessary . Corrupted bureaucracy can always make things worst than it already is .
Valery Legasov gave us a great lesson about lies. But a lot of countries failed at the latest major "event" just because they believed lies will cost less.
I was 16 when this happened, the truth took so long to get out from that Nation, and then 3 years later, the Berlin wall came down and the USSR fell apart . . After almost putting a hole in the world....
Almost? The core is still burning and almost thru the concrete and boron underneath.
Is easier for you? Your capitalism buried more people.
After the USSR and the wall came down more people died because of war in Europe than in 40 years "cold war".
@@rastiga9196 No it's not. It has warmed up some, but nowhere near to the point of burning anything except cellular structure of the unprotected near it
@@panzerwolf494 True, I was just fucking with him. There is a big island that America is solely responsible for though for dumping most of our waste from the nuclear tests. Nobody here even knows about that mostly, Murica hell yeah doh.
A close relative of mine died in Chernobyl. My neighbour, a friend of my parents was also in Chernobyl as a liquidator during the disaster. He died when he was not even 50. I was allways interested in this event and liked the show a lot. I liked you reaction the most. Involved, respectfull and understending. Thank you for that.
Imagen being those 2 divers that survived and now looking back at this and se there actions memoriolized.
Valery Legasov actually recorded his last tape as an interview with Ales Adamovich (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ales_Adamovich) who was another brave truth teller who helped the story to be told to the world. Ales was so respected that he was nearly untouchable because Ales wrote the Russian classic movie 'Come and See'. If you ever feel brave, try that movie.
Also Mikael Gorbachev said Chernobyl was the catalyst for the collapse of the USSR.
By 1996 Legasov was a hero is the eyes of the Russian government and that is his legacy.
Come and see.. ua-cam.com/video/BcCbX1fqFKA/v-deo.html Chekist.. ua-cam.com/video/X48uZMsbufI/v-deo.html purgatory ua-cam.com/video/Xg7L7trpvH0/v-deo.html itsa just to brutal movies..
That's Our Lesson Learned. We Think We Know It All Until We Dont
Myself and several friends are booking a holiday. Were going to visit Chernobyl. Pripriat and Kiev.
Hey, you're right! (2:53) It IS just a grate.
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Legosov is one of my personal heros in modern history. If it wasnt for him, lots of unknowns, and well as this explained the whole RBMK thing how can you skip that beautiful transcendant song like its nothing, jusr curious, it grabs my heart every time i hear it, i will listen on repeat.
You showed this series the dignity and respect it deserved. There were so many real life heroes that stepped up and did what needed to be done... knowing full well that they were probably going to die (horribly) as a result. And there were also a lot of abject cowards... people who didn't care about human life, and who were looking only to cover up the mess and run from the blame. Everyone should see this series at least once.
- PS - Another miniseries by HBO that was also very heavy, but true... Band of Brothers. It's another one that everyone should see at least once in their life. It's a masterpiece by Steven Spielberg.
The title of this episode really fit it... it's tough
AAAAwwwwweeeeee. Seeing you react like that at 8:30 just makes me feel like giving you a nice big hug 😢🥺. It’s okay 🥺. This series is an AMAZING SERIES!!! Really paints the solid reality of tragedy that is Chernobyl. And just made me frightened of Nuclear power.
I love how you really understand this and how it affected you. You truly get how important it is for people to see this and how doing it in a narrative way makes you really understand what happened.
Valery Khodoncuk was vaporized when the core exploded
The Bridge of Death story is not true, there is no evidence to support the claim that anyone on that bridge died. People who were on the bridge were interviewed in 2016.
about the bridge of death i think there are so many different stories has been told so its impossible to say, who lies and who doesnt. maybe there was different groups of people who went to that bridge on different times since this fire and shit lasted so long, maybe there was like 5 people at some point and who actually died later on, and maybe there was few hours later another groups of people, who are still alive today? hbo also interviewed lot of local people and stuf, im sure these stories doesnt come from nothing, how else this bridge got this nickname, long before the tv show. what i agree with you is maybe they shouldnt say on screen that 100% all died who went to that bridge when there are people who giving interviews and who also visited that bridge back in that time.
I believe that's why the caption said "It is reported...". They were not stating it as fact but as a claim. Maybe they were not able to verify the claim that they all died so they worded it that way.
@@caribbeanman3379 That is a good point...I had not thought of that before. 💯
I remember this being on the news when I was younger. The sad part is they even address in the show the western countries knew something horrible had happened and were willing to assist, but because the Russian government was scared of Western finding out their secrets they rolled the dice and down played it...his quote "What is the cost of lies?" Answer: Lots innocent lives lost. Even if they couldn't have avoided the disaster I think the Russian people would have accepted aid from anyone and not just their government..probably many more lives would have been saved. I still to this day feel so bad for all those people. Good people dying for lies of a country.
When the fuel rods begin dancing..... leave hope behind because it's not welcome here.
I'm glad I stuck through it, though it was rough going, almost exploitative, yet not quite. I only got the will to watch it because you were watching it and I knew you'd get something out of it. Was worth the sadness to get to the end.
I heard they held WAY back from what REALLY happened to the bodies of the firemen and power plant workers. I won't even say, but it was godawful. I can't imagine what those poor souls went through.
The Veritasium channel on youtube did an interesting video on Chernobyl 6 years ago. He returned to the city and showed how it was like.
Yes - highly recommend Veritasium's video on this!
'Vichnaya Pamyat' means forever memory /or something like tha/
Thank you for reacting into this series. Truth can be brutal sometimes. Atleast now it has a new cover that should last about 96 years, we gonna be long gone when its time to start planning what to do next with the cover. :)
Well, the goal of the new confinement is to start stripping down the reactor. Inside are a couple remote cranes and such. God willing when the confinement reaches the end of its life span the reactor will have been dealt with
@@panzerwolf494 I know exactly whats inside, but thanks for telling me :D
I love history which put this series at the top of my favorite list. Though tragic we must learn from events like this, not hide from it. Really enjoyed your reactions and input on the series. A US friend took a flight to Germany on a business trip a few days after the explosion. When he got to the city the streets were empty, its was raining & didn't find out what was going on until he was warned about the contamination at the motel he booked.
At the end, It hurts. I was 7 years old when it happened and 26 April was my birthday and I can even remember that scary days. We was denied to go out playing, or to drink milk or to eat some foods like salad. And I was in Italy.
epic reactions, thank you so much!
Thank you for your reactions.
'Holy fuck' is an accurate summary.
Great reactions! Your channel was just recommended to me for the Chernonyl reactions, and I hammered my way through them.
HBO really does make some fantastic dramas. Another great miniseries they made is Band of Brothers. It’s 20 years old, but damn does it hold up. Some of the best television ever made.
I look forward to seeing what you react to next!
They built that huge safe containment dome and there is a documentary about it on Amazon. It is truly a marvel how they built it. It will supposedly last for 100 years and hopefully they’ll be able to clean it all up. Many governments shelled out $$$ to help build & get it set up.
Sharp analysis + pure passion, Larissa. Dank je wel 👍🏼
A couple of years a go when I first heard about this miniseries and that they were doing it in English, it made me laugh from bitterness. How can you show us a realistic history of this tragedy.. in English!? I decided I would definitely not watch that. That was a very bad decision, but not long after that I made one of my best decisions: to give it a shot nonetheless.
I rated the show 10/10 on IMDb. One of the best things I ever saw on a screen. And now watching you watching Chernobyl confirms my rating.
Please Larissa, do yourself a favor and start watching the three season series Dark if you haven’t already. It will challenge you as a viewer and young filmmaker (?) on many different levels. You can find it on Netflix.
I suppose that now you understand why he couldn't give his cat away? He couldn't arouse any suspicion, basically had nobody, and his death would soon be discovered anyways. With how they were spying on him.
This show was so well done. I watched it when it first aired on HBO. And, I decided to rewatch it with your reaction's. Because it was a very hard watch. Because it was such a tragedy. I remember when this happened in the 80's. I was 11 years old. And, it was all over the new's for weeks in America.
I'm so glad you decided to react to this series. It's such an important story.
Loved your reactions to this, thanks for sharing with us, it's definitely a tragic event in history but it deserves to be known more. I already knew the origins of the exclusion zone and the disaster but I still enjoyed the show to know more details and it's worth it. As someone who has watched it multiple times already I think you should definitely watch it with your dad, it's hard to watch but it's well worth it, you understand more things now that you know the whole story. Thanks again!
What a wonderful surprise! This was my first encounter with Larissa and, when I saw her, I immediately thought: "Oh no, she's too young and immature to get this." I was so wrong! There's a lot of wisdom and maturity in her young head.
I have no doubt she will have a very successful filmmaking career and someday make a very important film.
Oh, and also enjoyed seeing the cat reacting to Larissa reacting. I imagined the cat was thinking: "What is that crazy woman up to now?"
not just a great tv show but also an important one
I agree with what you said about understanding what happened. I was able to understand the explanation of what happened. This was really well done. I am really glad you stuck with it to the end.
Grate reaction, Larissa - I've really enjoyed watching along with you.
(I love your pronunciation of 'heavy', btw: 'hebby'(?) - it sounds kinda like 'happy'. It was hilarious to see you cry and then say that the show was"so happy". Haha - grate! Sorry - I mean 'great')
I'm from Ukraine and we're taught about Chernobyl since very young age, at least in my town it was done. And a lot of people are very cautious about nuclear reactors and radiation. Especially considering that I wasn't born that far from that region. A lot of people in Ukraine still suffer from cancer. It's still dangerous there and will be for a long time
I think they over exxagarated dytalov, they made him look like a monster but if you watch the interview with him, its a whole diffrent story
I told my driving instructor about this series and she remembered that when this happened she was having a school summer break in a camp somewhere in the east of RSFSR (modern Russia) and suddenly the camp got overflowed with kids from Pripyat who instantly became the object of jealousy because Ukraine was always famous as the richest region of ussr. She also told me that she was never so embarrassed when she found out why those kids were sent so far away from home.
I was in Minsk in 1986.
Great reaction to a fantastic show! Your tears at the end were totally understandable.
My recommendation for future reactions:
Have you ever seen "LOST"? It's an absolutely amazing series, that was mindblowing in many ways.
And it still has many passionate fans, although it is nearly 20 years old now...
So maybe a good pick to give your channel a little push. ;)
"Valery Khodemchuk's body was never recovered. He is permanently entombed under Reactor 4."
Hopefully now that they have the confinement over the reactor to start tearing it down they find his remains and give him an honorable burial
@@panzerwolf494 He was in a sealed room with an explosion that lifted a 1000 tonne concrete lid hundreds of meters into the air leading and led to a pressure wave of superheated steam.
The man was vapourised in the first second!
@@voiceofraisin3778 Dude was actually off in a circulation pump room that was full of debris after the explosion. They've theorized that's where he is buried. He, along with everyone else didn't experience the full naked blast of the reactor as the only man in the reactor hall was the one witnessing the caps bouncing around and ran to tell the operators.
He became one with the reactor 4
The show’s kinda like radioactive metal. Heavy af, full of potential energy, hurts to handle, requires a bit to get going, though hard to stop once it does.
The significance of a cell with a drain in the middle of the floor is that's a cell which can be used to execute those convicted of capital crimes. The blood can be washed away down the hole. There's another film or miniseries about a famous Ukrainian serial killer and the KGB detective who tries to track him down over three decades. In the end the murderer is shot in a cell like that.
It makes me much more worried about nuclear power stations now. Not just because there is still no plan for fixing the Fukushima NPP which is still pumping radiocactive water into the Pacific Ocean every few weeks. But when civilzation starts breaking down because of climate change, if the nuclear power plants aren't shut down, they'll start running out of control, and there won't be the centralised, organised states able to throw resources at them when they do like the USSR was able to throw at Chernobyl. We have to get them shut down before that happens, if we're going to survive.
Loved your reaction to the series (especially your tears, and your passion for great filmmaking....you're a beautiful person, both inside and out). Since you love film, maybe do some classic films? I suggest the 2 Stephen King non-horror classics The Shawshank Redemption, and The Green Mile....plus doing classic films will help grow your channel and subs.
my father died on April 28 this year, the consequences of Chernobyl ... he died in my arms, in agony. damn the USSR, damn all our countries that do not recognize anything. HBO Told More Truth Than All Our Fucking "States" .... Odessa Ukraine with u! my respect to you, spread this to all your friends, let them know the price of a lie
I’m so sorry for your loss
Then seeing the clips of the real people Same thing for me 😢
Vandaag de dag is het nog steeds een groot probleem....De sarcofaag moet onderhouden blijven worden; alles vergaat sneller met deze kogels in de de buurt...De huidige sarcofaag lijdt aan betonrot en ook het staalwerk is aan vervanging toe...
Misschien dat onze achterkleinkinderen ooit een goede oplossing voor dit probleem kunnen vinden?
Ulyana Khomyuk is an ukrainian name
It'll be 20,000 years before we can step inside reactor 4
Humanity will be long gone before we can actually finish cleaning the mess
You should do a reaction on Jeremy Clarkson's Victoria Cross documentary.
After this well made, but heavy show, you need something lighter.
I recommend The Queens Gambit. Anya Taylor Joy is mesmerizing.
Yeah, lets go for some thing lighter, like Schindlers list, or some thing,
The scene with the trial reminded me of GoT s06e10, so I added the Light of the Seven soundtrack to the scene. If you are interested in how it looks, here it is: ua-cam.com/video/CDB8gZgm6VE/v-deo.html
Two of my friends died bone cancer becouse Chernobyl....
Chernobyl is a story about 2 kinds of people in the world:
1. The heroes who bravely expose and face the truth, even at great cost to their personal life and safety. (Think of Legasov and all the workers willing to face the truth of their almost certain imminent death, in the service of the safety of millions of others)
2. The cowards who lie to themselves and others to protect their own personal interests or that of an ideology or system they are beholden to. (Think of Dyatlov and the committee members who were in denial about the seriousness of the situation, and wanted to cover it up to protect the reputation of the soviet system)
The reprehensible behavior of anti-maskers, anti-vaxers and covid-deniers shows the world is still full of people of the second kind who have not learned the hard lessons taught by Chernobyl. May history be just as unkind to them as it has been to those who mishandled Chernobyl!
Ozark. You must watch Ozark. Excellent!
Yeah, Ozark is awesome!
You should react to the Band of Brothers HBO miniseries. It's the best 10-episode show ever made, and is entirely based on real people and events.
Band of brothers….😃😀😄😅😂🤣😄😁😆🤭
This series was filmed based on a real tragedy, even fictional characters were added to the series. One of my friends' relatives was the liquidator of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. He survived, but when he was shown this series, he said that the truth is not more than 10%, and everything else is a lie and provocation of the West. In this series, they want to show the viewer how bloodthirsty the Soviet Union was. This disaster did not happen because of Dyatlov, but because of the incorrigibility of the RBK-1000 reactor.
It's still pretty mind boggling that even with these massive numbers of casualties from this nuclear disaster and the fallout from nuclear power in general, they still don't even come close to how many people die all over the world every year from fossil fuels like coal, but it's not as dramatic so it doesn't get as much attention.
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The five stages of grief:
Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance
The show has 5 episodes which follow a similar pattern. Coincidence? I think not.
I never noticed that. Good catch.
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The series has not been without its share of lies. In fact, no one wanted to expose others to danger, just our scientists and government were not ready for such a turn and underestimated the scale of the catastrophe, and did not deliberately hide them. I really liked the series, but about vodka, shooting dogs and impudent miners - it's a lie) There were miners, but they themselves volunteered to help without threats and weapons.
they're not lies. it's artistic license to increase the drama. I'm sure Dyatlov didn't act like an A-hole in the control room but it helps the story. the other operators did say that he was difficult to work with.
@@PV1230 Why not lie? To change the reason for the silence of the government, in my opinion, is a falsification of facts. The nuances that I have listed also took place. Vodka doesn't add much drama either, ahaha
Right after the interrogation scene "That's sad" Oh honey, that Epilogue is gonna wreck you
Chernobyl is the main reason why the Soviet Union collapse in 1991
With how recent this is, and how recently this series aired. It's insane that pretty much nobody talks about China's insanely unsafe new reactor projects.
What do you mean?
@@arismaiden6457 If you don't know of it, just check out China Uncensored for example. They have a couple of episodes on it.
Unless youtube took it down because they're selling out(and from all we can see, they really are).
@@Nyarlathotep_Flagg is to that a series like Chernobyl or a documentary? Also I ve heard about Fukushima that there was massive leak of radioactive water to the Pacific ocean for a long, like thousands tons of contaminated water, and the Japanese were hiding it for years. Do you know anything about that?
@@arismaiden6457 It's a news program of sorts. It's basically exactly what it says on the tin.
I remember hearing that rumor, but I never saw any confirmations, or see any credible sources.
And while bad, that would theoretically not be anything seriously qualifying on the scale of nuclear disasters.
They were not underestimating the issue, the communist government in Russia did not allow them to show weakness or mistakes so everyone down played the actual situation. Boris made the comment about "you really think that telling the truth is going to fix "A country that is obsessed with not being humiliated" The coverup was to avoid shame and humiliation towards the Russian Communist government to the rest of the world so it was a constant coverup and down playing on how bad things really were. Hence they still only state 37 people died from that event. I get angry with the governmental response in that film but unfortunately I can see the American government or any other government doing the same thing. If you look up world war 2 bomb testing performed by the United States we have done the same thing to people who lived on those islands and suffered all the radiation from our testing. 46 nuclear bombs were tested on the Marshall Islands and then we lied to our troops and had them clean the area up without telling them what they were getting involved with. You would think that time and history would teach us a lesson about coverups but not much has changed since that incident. Look at China and the Corona virus out break which the same process was followed. Cover up, coverup until its so bad the entire world is now infected.
Next, you should watch some vids on what was accurate in the series and what was not. I recommend Thunderfoot.
ua-cam.com/video/SsdLDFtbdrA/v-deo.html
This series is generally good, but Diatlov was defamed. The real diatlov wasn't like the dick in the show.
Boris Shcherbina not only was in charge at Chernobyl but also of the response to the 1988 Armenian earthquake, when over 25,000 people died, almost certainly more than Chernobyl.
As you’re so invested in this show, can I give you some items for further research?
Meduza.io has a couple of reviews and interviews, including an interview with Sitnikov’s wife meduza.io/en/feature/2019/06/04/the-pain-doesn-t-fade
Sitnikov was the guy in E1 who was sent up to the roof to look at the core, and is played by the actor who was Ned’s personal guard in GOT S1, killed by Jaime. Just one of the many GoT cast who appear in Chernobyl.
On Twitter, mobile.twitter.com/SlavaMalamud/status/1132029943297265664 are episode by episode reviews of the school uniforms, car number plates, furniture, etc by someone living in the USSR at the time, now in the US. Craig Mazin (the show runner) pops up a few times in the threads.
On you tube there is Real Chernobyl by Sky tv (the UK coproducer) ua-cam.com/video/Xw3SFOfbR84/v-deo.html again with interviews with some of the characters, including one of the divers from E2, who is amazingly blasé about it.
And there are several vids about the new containment project, the mega tomb, which are interesting. And somewhat scary.
This is an amazing show, but it is not a documentary. The show runner did a podcast, also called Chernobyl, where he goes into the changes he made in quite a lot of detail. For example, the trial at the end didn’t have Legasov or Shcherbina present, let alone giving testimony, but that would have been very odd for the show’s purposes.
Overall I would rate it as the best mini series I have seen.
hot. oh 2 years ago
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