About 35 years ago a scientist told me that he could make any water drinkable by adding something to it. He never told me how this would be accomplished so I am so glad to see your video.
@@brendan5260 Easily. A good friend of mine told me about the water purifying tablets back in the late 80s for when he went hiking in the Smoky Mountains
Active Ingredients: "The P&G Purifier of Water is a sachet containing *powdered ferric sulfate and calcium hypochlorite.* The ferric sulfate acts as a coagulant and aggregates suspended particulates and larger microbes. The resulting floccules then settle to the bottom of the water container. The calcium hypochlorite (bleach powder) acts as a disinfectant."
You can buy both of these chemicals in bulk as they are still being in use for mentioned purpose: water clarification and disinfection. But the package are more convenient as they are already measured to the right portion otherwise adding too much of these two chemical can create it's own problem.
@@minhducnguyen9276 The packet is designed for time delay too. You cannot just put both together, they will degrade or mix as other compounds. The mixture inside the packet is designed for a three step process
@@andreaquadrati Exactly. It simplifies the process. Otherwise you'll have to separate the steps and mix in manually. Not ideal for survival situation but this is much more efficient if you do it for a whole community in disaster struck areas. Where you are clearing a water tank for a whole family you don't use these little bags but pouring in the ferric sulfate instead. We are used to use this stuff all the time in my country only for a decade was it phased out.
That's honestly incredible to watch. I watched a video about the guy who discovered this chemical. He was using it to clean waterways and things. Really brilliant and fascinating stuff. It never ceases to amaze me how well it works.
The intent behind the twist inside the smaller blue clip _is_ to make the water leak through so you can rinse the gunk out the bottom and do a second cycle. If you had a second of the purple rib-clips you could seal the mid portion below the spout. TBH taking a cloth sock bailer with you so settle out any random catch particulate big enough to be filtered by cloth alone is a good idea. So this kit would be best with two bags and their clips, a silicone bucket and a cloth sock bailer (3 cup tall mug with the filtering sock insert thing that you can boil in). This bag seems expertly designed instead of marketing designed. Looks like the spout can be coupled with some other equipment for larger operations made easier, say quickly transferring using a drain hose lead into a boiling tank? I would also presume the bags have a limited lifespan and the twist also serves to keep people from using bags with higher and higher probabilities of biocontamination. Thinker-proofing products is a newer trend in survival and first aid (and medical equipment all the way up to brain surgery) gear.
He explained at the end of the video that they were using the product large scale to clean water sources to people who don't have clean water. They weren't shipping out bags. I'm just going to assume you are just being funny
@@debbylou5729 The substance which causes the particulates suspended in the water is called a "flocculant". The U.S. Army issued a similar setup in Iraq. Just letting cloudy water sit for a few hours or overnight without disturbing it and no flocculent will let a surprising amount of stuff settle just by force of gravity. Using a 'prefilter' (pantyhose material works well) to filter out the big stuff helps tremendously. But the flocculant really binds to and cleans out the light stuff that otherwise stays suspended. I've drunk water that dirty (not by choice) from mudholes after filtering it through a bandana and treating it with military-issue iodine tablets. No flocculant. No ill effects. You get a little grit in your teeth but you don't die of thirst. BTW there are primitive peoples who traditionally eat mud and clay, it's thought to make up for mineral deficiencies in their diets. One of these is the Lumbi Indian tribes in southern North Carolina. You want to get the clearest water you can but dirty water, properly treated, can certainly keep you alive.
As far as a water purification system for large quantities of water I see tremendous benefit of that system. With the “water” you used that definitely made a huge difference but definitely putting in a container that you can boil it before using it. Great demonstration.
@@slappy8941 he used what I would call some last resort water. The people in the know say that the water you should seek for consumption / purification should be moving. Stagnant mud holes like this especially in the summer down south are notorious breeding grounds for mosquitoes and what not. That purification system that he demonstrated made that water almost usable, I would still boil it before drinking or cooking with it, just like he said. My use of quotations is my way of trying to make sarcasm work in text, but I guess that I was wrong. I believe this is a great product for the record.
@@troybostick4511 I got your sarcastic intent. Good use of quotes. I think the last person may not have been criticizing but seeking to understand your choice.
This doesn't actually need boiling as the packets also disinfect the water. Despite his misgivings that treated water is perfectly ok to drink by the end.
I would definitely pair this with my katadyne ceramic filter. There was a time I was on a trail and the next water source was roughly 10 miles away and I didn’t want to use up my drinking water to cook a quick meal and I found a small water source but was not the best quality I used the bandana filter method 3times until I got clean enough water to pass through my filter then I boiled it and cooked my meal. If I had this product that would’ve purified that muddy water better than the bandana method for sure. I’m definitely adding this to my arsenal of purification products
I have a 120 ft well. We have drank the water in the well for the last 20 years. No filter. It has a sediment layer below the feeder foot. The cold water is ice cold even on the 100 + degree days of summer. It never freezes even when the temperature is below zero. It has been tested and is very clean.
I love the treatment, and I love this bag. The treatment is a Godsend to those around the world who have very little choice but to make do with what they have. Small, lightweight, takes up no space and is *essential* to those who shouldn't trust water just because it "looks alright". I have at least one packet in every first aid kit and bug out bag that I have. I have been using them since Curran1776 has been sporting peach-fuzz. However, each tiny little packet treats up to 2.5 gallons of water. Using a whole packet on whatever I can fit on my Solo stove just feels like a waste. Especially backpacking, there are few options to carry that much water from the source back to camp. Let alone something durable enough to stir and not end up losing half your water because of something you rigged together that wasn't up to the task. Which is why I *love* this bag. It appears to be a strong design, so it won't fall apart. The design allows you to ditch the crud so it's not sitting there in full view while you intend to use it. It has its own tap with it's own filter for a little more peace of mind. And the best part? It will fold flat and take up no space in your gear to interrupt your trekking. I already want three. Great find Currin. This is *essential* kit. Now only if I could see into a future where it shows up into one of Battlbox. (Wink, wink, nudge, nudge)
@@chicawhappa this video is a testing video , they want to test out how well this bag can do so this video should be using the bag but not other any treatments
Yeah this bag works great as long as you keep the floaters in the bag to a minimum. You dont have to completely avoid them but its best to not stir up the murky water so the bag doesn’t clog
It's chlorinated water, so it is safe to drink, although the bacteria and parasites are dead inside the water. You could theoretically use a water filter to remove those and chlorine to get a better result.
The only way you can use a filter in those conditions is to also use a pre-filter. You would need a funnel packed with cotton and paper towels to run the water through to remove larger debris. Then you can run that through something like a Sawyer. It’s a pain, but it’s the only way to filter something that bad without access to a chemical flocculant. And the pre-filter method will clog after a bit.
The key ingredient of the powder is a polymer of the amino acid glutamic acid, a coagulant made from fermented soybeans, which helps quicken the coagulation of impurities in water. It was designed for laundry detergent. It was food safe so they looked for other uses. P & G makes and distribute it. There should be salts added to fix the flavor. Some come with sanitizer in it too. The clumps are the polymer chains. So thats not totally dirt. Its a gooey mess It is a impressive reaction for sure..
This video was pure information. This process is awesome. Unfortunately in dry times those with less have to resort to this type of worst case scenario water. Good to know this stuff is out there 👍
what I like as a filter is an upside down 2 liter bottle with the bottom cut off, so it's a big funnel/cup, cloth ziptied over the spout, fill it halfway up with fine sand on the bottom and gravel on the top, then pour water through that and into a container that has been coated with a drop or two of bleach. it's not perfect but it's a pretty good start, and from what I've read it apparently removes (some) radiation, as well, which is a neat bonus. Maybe that could work out well alongside this bag here, so you preprocess it like that so the magic flagulent stuff doesn't have to work quite so hard to get the job done.
That is one of the most amazing survival products I have seen. I don't know what kind of binding agents they use to separate the dirt and debris but it's fascinating to watch it work. I hope I never need something like it but I am going to check the shelf life of the chemicals and consider getting one just in case. Thanks for the great video.
It's probably Alum which works similarly in pool water. It's used when particulates are too small for the pool filter to catch. The substance is "sticky" causing the tiny particles to stick together making larger assemblies that can fall to the bottom via gravity.
As an engineering student, I can say that alot of the water purification gadgets for campers are probably not able to make water found in natural sources drinkable, esp murky water. Water systems involve screening, coagulation, flocculation, disinfecting the water etc. And the products for campers usually do 1 of those things very poorly.
@@v12style67 At least in civil engineering, urban water treatment is a large facet. The worlds experts on water treatment are civil engineers because they’re the ones designing the large scale treatment sites. So no, actually, this is not an area of expertise for chemists, but rather engineers…
@@pixelninja10 what happens in this video is a chemical reaction not a mechanical problem to solve. this is not even a treatment site and unless you're a chemical engineer or anything related, no you will not learn anything about chemistry in the career.
As soon as I get paid, I will come back to the link. I found it completly facinating. I always questioned whether or not some of the promted purification systems really worked. Your video has made me a believer. Thank you.
This seems like a pretty awesome first step to water purification, although I’d still pair it with some other kind of filter just because if there’s any poo poo or oil in the water you could get sick. But I still think for like a long term survival situation, like if society actually collapsed you’d want to get your hands on a mechanical water treatment system of some kind with pumps, and maybe still stockpile this product in bulk so you can use it with your pumps and mechanical filtration. At the very least you could come up with greywater for your RV and if you’re really in a bind then I guess you got water
@@Nockgun it’s basically what they do for greywater processing But as long as you’re not filtering water with raw sewage in it you’re probably fine to drink it And if you can get an ro unit that fits under your sink then you can get serious mechanical filtration without taking up too much permanent space on your property
@@Automedon2 I already have a pretty decent ro for my fish tanks and hydro. All id have to do is find a pre filter for it, like a basket strainer and a tank to use this chemical. Then it would just need to flow through the filter you could just use a 55 gallon barrel and hoist it into a tree. Two separate small gas pumps to transfer between tanks 1” hose one for dirty water one for clean water. If you actually were worried about end of the world scenario you’d have a backup gen or solar panels, you’d have prepared for it. Sure if the planet just split in half it wouldn’t help you none but on the off chance you could survive it then you’d have stuff to use. Realistically though this is for off grid living or emergency situations (bear grylls on accident type shit), in which case, you’d still have RO attached to your house already, probably an even better one than what I use for my fish tanks. And the size of that system is entirely dependent on how many people you’re giving water to. Just one person could just use this bag and a life straw, sure, you’d just be spending a lot of time collecting, boiling, and waiting for water. It’s better to engineer something, and water filters are far from the complexity of a nuclear reactor I think you’re over thinking what I said
Seems like a very cool product but from other reviews I’ve read the filter at the spout clogs very fast making it difficult to extract water from the bag. I think further testing would be more informative. Good video
Have the people who gave those bad reviews mentioned whether or not they did what he did and made sure that all the gunk was below the spout or that they ran it multiple times like he did? If it is just water it should not clog, but if there is still crap in the water and they haven't used common sense then I can see why it would.
In the 70s, Dad set up a purifying system that provided us with clean water from a pond with the help of a local supplier. It was a Culligan with alum, the floculant, and chlorine, the purifier, injectors. We emptied the settling tanks, which were àt least 6 ft tall and 3 ft diameter, monthly. Lots of gunk. I assume these are part of the ingredients. Our groundwater was alkali. Public water finally made it to the rural area this century.
Looks super interesting, I'd trust this to a significant extent if you can get that gunk water to look that clean. I'd probably boil it afterwards to be safe, but that's just standard practice right
This would be a great additive for military use or maybe a smaller one to put in MRE's for one serving and refilling a two-quart in the field and maybe larger ones for whole platoons
I've used life straw filters with running water filled with lots of dirt. They do work, and I have been drinking water without having to pay, for two years now. Lifestraws are very easy.
Very interesting. I wonder what compound they're using for the coagulant. I've done well water treatment for about 20 years. This reminds me of a competition that my dad, who started our business once participated in. They were tasked to come up with an economical and simple solution for treating arsenic in 3rd world countries. It was essentially down to adding chlorine and ferric chloride to a bucket of water and letting it flocculate, then filtering it through a cotton t-shirt. He didn't win, but the winners did the same thing, just with a bucket of rusty nails instead of the ferric chloride. The chlorine not only kills bacteria but changes the valence of the arsenic to a form which is attracted to the iron, and also activates flocculation or said iron, which makes it easy to then remove the iron with arsenic attached to it. We used to use a similar method for home owners with arsenic issues, but then absorption medias became available which was a lot easier to deal with.
Neat concept but I think straining water and then boiling it is still gonna be my go to. That being said the grayl is something I’ve been considering for summer months or when traveling.
@@techwizsmith7963 how do you do that in the outdoors, if you don’t mind me asking? I think nighthawk in light made a video about a contraption for that but if I recall correctly it required tools I don’t have to make.
@@evanf1443 I mean, if we're discussing products like this, we're obviously in a situation where we have equipment. Honestly, just having a basic funnel with an air tight seal to a tube sitting over a container of your choosing, either boiling it off like you said or letting the sun cause it to evaporate. The funnel will catch the vapors and let it condense in the tube, dripping into whatever other container you'd like. If you're short on time, filter and boil is definitely preferable, but if not then the evaporation method is more effective in terms of purification. I've seen some really janky setups done with 2 liter soda bottles and duct tape, and they technically work despite the bit of loss
And without twisting which seems to bring up some of the nasty stuff every time (unless the water is much cleaner than in this video). (OK, this would probably be fixed by a deeper reservoir....) And without removing the blue clip (unless one wants to repeat the process).
That is so COOL!! Thanks for sharing. Over all I like it. Even just keeping the bag in the sun will kill the bad stuff after the sediment is out the UV light will work. Thanks for sharing. God Bless
Really needed this last week on the Cabin Loop Trail in Arizona. Water from springs only, really were glorified mud holes. My filtration system was getting really clogged up. This would’ve been so convenient. I’m ordering one ASAP!
I've been watching alum flocculation for a long time, and it never get's old.... But, I've never seen a product that makes you "agitate" it for 5min. But, I digress.... The fact that you can turn water THAT filthy into something most people would drink if in a really bad situation, is remarkable. And, in that scenario, you'd probably 2-3x's the dosage to clean it up. And, once crystal clear, if you wanted to take it another step. you could filter it through charcoal, then boil it. Great video!
I know it's beyond the scope of what you do but I'd love to see some empirical testing of the water quality. The way the sediment clumped and the bladder spout is really simple amd the product itself could fit into any survival kit. Good video
That’s really amazing, i’ve never seen anything like that. Never had anything but iodine tablets when i was at philmont back in the 90’s. But we also had a gadget that i cant remember the name of. It was a triangle shaped thing. Kinda tent like, you would boil your water with it over the pot and put a cup at each corner to collect the clean water. The idea was to purify the water by evaporation. Im no chemical expert or water scientist, but i’m not dead and we didn’t get sick, so… guess it worked.
Very cool. I did philmont in 08’ same deal, iodine tablets. Didn’t have any evaporation pot, but we were also able to get ground water out of a decent amount of well pumps.
Had to use iodine tablets on my Army unit a few times. One time we couldn't find moving water anywhere and had no choice. I think we doubled or tripled the iodine dose... Didn't work. Whole platoon got dysentery. We shit so much for a week, we almost used all the trees in the woods.
I am from third world country ..India.. we have been using similar kind of technique from very old times for water treatment. We take the contaminate water and put some potash alum into it and boil the water then we let contamination settle when it is settled we filter it using very thick cotton cloth 👍
This is really awsome, if you had the time you could collect it, let it set over night and then drain what dirt settled. Then add the product to gather the rest
14:34 even though this water looks clean after doing the process 2nd time, to make it safe for drinking, transfer the water in a big vessel and boil it properly. Boiling would kill any bacteria present and then it would be safe for drinking (probably).
I think the set is awesome and everyone needs a year supply. I have said for years that a glass of good water an a good peace of steel would be worth it's weight in gold.Thanks man, this is real to me.
Thank you for the demonstration I seen that being used in countries in Africa it’s good to know that we as a consumer in the US can purchase the same system
I typically use chemicals only as a last resort. The time frame is hugely unacceptable if you are out and about hiking, backpacking or whatever. The filters they make today do an incredible job, of course you would be going through some filters w/that much gunk.
Clearly having multiple stages of filtration can help if possible. Even something as simple as a tshirt for the bigger “gunk” to extent the life of a filter is so helpful.
That is one of the most interesting things I've seen in a very long time, considering how filthy that muck was to start with the result is very impressive.
I really want to see this water under microscope and there is literally no videos on the internet about this purybag . This seems such an amazing product and thwre is no other good video
Just curious, are you worried about the spicket having contamination? It's been in the same water as you drew it from. Also would you drink right from this bag or still boil it?
The treated water has residual chlorine to prevent recontamination, so probably the best practice is to fill your water source from the bag spout and let it sit another 30 mins before drinking.
If you want to be completely thorough and safe, you will boil the water. If you let it sit in your storage container (canteen, cup, etc) for a while you should be OK though.
This bag is great! Just a note, if you get a battery pack charger and plug it in while the cam is in use, your cam will stay charged. Not that i am an expert, but i do this with everything i use as far as electronic equiptment.
This product + filter + boiling = I would drink the resulting water provided there isn't any other water alternatives. Also, one tip I learned is to bring juicy fruits such as melons, cantaloupes, watermelons with you (pre-sliced, off course) since they contain water a lot of water too.
1, needs a handle on the bottom side also for the mixing step 2, @9:22 move the water while it's hung to get that dirt from the top of the bag, 3, the bottom portion passed nozzle and taper should be ~3-4'' inches longer, 4, the nozzle needs a hold open, hands free function 5, the bag twist and clip move is bad- the blue clip needs to be steel or some such- a concave/convex pressing action (think two half pipe pieces, or even an S shape) steel with rubber on the insides not to abuse the plastic of the bag
I actually have used these in the past, though not for drinking water. I'm an environmental engineer with a specialization in water treatment. When performing tests in regards to contaminants in water, it's easier for me to use this system to get a concentrated sample of the contaminants from the water, as opposed to other methods.
I come here after i saw you in youtube shorts, I rate 8/10 for this product,Really usefull and easy to use. We can use during camping and travelling.I really want to use this one if i had one.Tq for the explaination and review.Really helpfull. Love you from Malaysia❤🇲🇾
In Japan, they use some kind of rice gel to clean murky water. It isn't for drinking however it does remove all the suspended matter in the water. They mostly use it clean ponds and other important locations.
All you need are Polyaluminium Chloride (PAC) & Polyacrylamide (PAM) and best to pass through the Activated charcoal. You will still have to boil the water to drink it.
🤔...This is quite interesting. The way I see it, it would be better when this specific product is used in conjunction with another water filtration product as an additional insurance of clean water. Well done...👏
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About 35 years ago a scientist told me that he could make any water drinkable by adding something to it. He never told me how this would be accomplished so I am so glad to see your video.
Wait, are you sure it was that long ago? Interesting.
Hes bs🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@brendan5260 I am pretty sure that it was in the 90s.
@@me6057 What purpose would I have to make something like this up?
@@brendan5260 Easily. A good friend of mine told me about the water purifying tablets back in the late 80s for when he went hiking in the Smoky Mountains
Active Ingredients: "The P&G Purifier of Water is a sachet containing *powdered ferric sulfate and calcium hypochlorite.* The ferric sulfate acts as a coagulant and aggregates suspended particulates and larger microbes. The resulting floccules then settle to the bottom of the water container. The calcium hypochlorite (bleach powder) acts as a disinfectant."
👌 thanks for posting this!
You can buy both of these chemicals in bulk as they are still being in use for mentioned purpose: water clarification and disinfection. But the package are more convenient as they are already measured to the right portion otherwise adding too much of these two chemical can create it's own problem.
@@minhducnguyen9276 The packet is designed for time delay too. You cannot just put both together, they will degrade or mix as other compounds. The mixture inside the packet is designed for a three step process
@@andreaquadrati Exactly. It simplifies the process. Otherwise you'll have to separate the steps and mix in manually. Not ideal for survival situation but this is much more efficient if you do it for a whole community in disaster struck areas. Where you are clearing a water tank for a whole family you don't use these little bags but pouring in the ferric sulfate instead. We are used to use this stuff all the time in my country only for a decade was it phased out.
I hope this product circulates in the world and can be traded, including in the country where I live
That's honestly incredible to watch. I watched a video about the guy who discovered this chemical. He was using it to clean waterways and things. Really brilliant and fascinating stuff. It never ceases to amaze me how well it works.
you have the link?? i’m quite interested now
@@mcfcDJ51 same
@@mcfcDJ51 I think it's this one ua-cam.com/video/O6JseTWJCpY/v-deo.html
@@JudgeDredd_ same
That fish tank cleaner salt?
The intent behind the twist inside the smaller blue clip _is_ to make the water leak through so you can rinse the gunk out the bottom and do a second cycle. If you had a second of the purple rib-clips you could seal the mid portion below the spout. TBH taking a cloth sock bailer with you so settle out any random catch particulate big enough to be filtered by cloth alone is a good idea. So this kit would be best with two bags and their clips, a silicone bucket and a cloth sock bailer (3 cup tall mug with the filtering sock insert thing that you can boil in). This bag seems expertly designed instead of marketing designed. Looks like the spout can be coupled with some other equipment for larger operations made easier, say quickly transferring using a drain hose lead into a boiling tank? I would also presume the bags have a limited lifespan and the twist also serves to keep people from using bags with higher and higher probabilities of biocontamination. Thinker-proofing products is a newer trend in survival and first aid (and medical equipment all the way up to brain surgery) gear.
I thought the working component was the additive. You say it's the bag?
@@debbylou5729 yes, it's the bag
Edit: because of Debby Lou i'm gonna say it: take this the way you want
@@Davis... no it isn't. He explained at the end of the video that the packets of stuff were being uses
He explained at the end of the video that they were using the product large scale to clean water sources to people who don't have clean water. They weren't shipping out bags. I'm just going to assume you are just being funny
@@debbylou5729 The substance which causes the particulates suspended in the water is called a "flocculant". The U.S. Army issued a similar setup in Iraq. Just letting cloudy water sit for a few hours or overnight without disturbing it and no flocculent will let a surprising amount of stuff settle just by force of gravity. Using a 'prefilter' (pantyhose material works well) to filter out the big stuff helps tremendously. But the flocculant really binds to and cleans out the light stuff that otherwise stays suspended. I've drunk water that dirty (not by choice) from mudholes after filtering it through a bandana and treating it with military-issue iodine tablets. No flocculant. No ill effects. You get a little grit in your teeth but you don't die of thirst. BTW there are primitive peoples who traditionally eat mud and clay, it's thought to make up for mineral deficiencies in their diets. One of these is the Lumbi Indian tribes in southern North Carolina. You want to get the clearest water you can but dirty water, properly treated, can certainly keep you alive.
As far as a water purification system for large quantities of water I see tremendous benefit of that system. With the “water” you used that definitely made a huge difference but definitely putting in a container that you can boil it before using it. Great demonstration.
Why did you put "water" in quotations?
@@slappy8941 he used what I would call some last resort water. The people in the know say that the water you should seek for consumption / purification should be moving. Stagnant mud holes like this especially in the summer down south are notorious breeding grounds for mosquitoes and what not. That purification system that he demonstrated made that water almost usable, I would still boil it before drinking or cooking with it, just like he said. My use of quotations is my way of trying to make sarcasm work in text, but I guess that I was wrong. I believe this is a great product for the record.
@@troybostick4511 I got your sarcastic intent. Good use of quotes. I think the last person may not have been criticizing but seeking to understand your choice.
To be fair he does pretty much say the same through the video and gives explanation that it would need boiling with his comments around at 14:00
This doesn't actually need boiling as the packets also disinfect the water. Despite his misgivings that treated water is perfectly ok to drink by the end.
I would definitely pair this with my katadyne ceramic filter.
There was a time I was on a trail and the next water source was roughly 10 miles away and I didn’t want to use up my drinking water to cook a quick meal and I found a small water source but was not the best quality
I used the bandana filter method 3times until I got clean enough water to pass through my filter then I boiled it and cooked my meal.
If I had this product that would’ve purified that muddy water better than the bandana method for sure.
I’m definitely adding this to my arsenal of purification products
You should do a clean water source. That way we'd see how much sediment one would be swallowing if they drank the water without a filter
I have a 120 ft well. We have drank the water in the well for the last 20 years. No filter. It has a sediment layer below the feeder foot. The cold water is ice cold even on the 100 + degree days of summer. It never freezes even when the temperature is below zero. It has been tested and is very clean.
@@carolynwatson4301 Same here, my family also uses a well as we are off the grid. Well water isn't bad at all!
My guess is the blue clip is designed to allow a small amount of water flow to rinse the sediment from the bottom section. Just my 2 cents.
I love the treatment, and I love this bag.
The treatment is a Godsend to those around the world who have very little choice but to make do with what they have. Small, lightweight, takes up no space and is *essential* to those who shouldn't trust water just because it "looks alright". I have at least one packet in every first aid kit and bug out bag that I have. I have been using them since Curran1776 has been sporting peach-fuzz.
However, each tiny little packet treats up to 2.5 gallons of water. Using a whole packet on whatever I can fit on my Solo stove just feels like a waste. Especially backpacking, there are few options to carry that much water from the source back to camp. Let alone something durable enough to stir and not end up losing half your water because of something you rigged together that wasn't up to the task.
Which is why I *love* this bag. It appears to be a strong design, so it won't fall apart. The design allows you to ditch the crud so it's not sitting there in full view while you intend to use it. It has its own tap with it's own filter for a little more peace of mind. And the best part? It will fold flat and take up no space in your gear to interrupt your trekking. I already want three.
Great find Currin. This is *essential* kit. Now only if I could see into a future where it shows up into one of Battlbox. (Wink, wink, nudge, nudge)
U seriously wrote an eassy for a fucking bag
Why don't they make multilayer pellets instead of little plastic packets that further pollute the environment?
@@chicawhappa this video is a testing video , they want to test out how well this bag can do so this video should be using the bag but not other any treatments
@@cqrzsn Oh, I see. Thought it was part of the kit. Thanks.
Wow 👌 👏 😍 👍 🥰
Yeah this bag works great as long as you keep the floaters in the bag to a minimum. You dont have to completely avoid them but its best to not stir up the murky water so the bag doesn’t clog
Seems like a great product. Even if it's a first stage for really dirty water. It will spare your primary filter the punishment.
That was amazing! I especially liked that you decided to give it a second treatment which really brought the water to actually being clear!
Would love to see u do a water quality test to see how good it actually is after
Same
I think this is just for emergency, so it good enough for me
Better than chocolate water
It's chlorinated water, so it is safe to drink, although the bacteria and parasites are dead inside the water. You could theoretically use a water filter to remove those and chlorine to get a better result.
@@andreaquadrati after its treated and clear, boil it, it should be good to go after cooling off.
I'm a indian and i didn't know about this even it's indian product. Thanks for the video
The only way you can use a filter in those conditions is to also use a pre-filter. You would need a funnel packed with cotton and paper towels to run the water through to remove larger debris. Then you can run that through something like a Sawyer. It’s a pain, but it’s the only way to filter something that bad without access to a chemical flocculant. And the pre-filter method will clog after a bit.
The key ingredient of the powder is a polymer of the amino acid glutamic acid, a coagulant made from fermented soybeans, which helps quicken the coagulation of impurities in water. It was designed for laundry detergent. It was food safe so they looked for other uses. P & G makes and distribute it.
There should be salts added to fix the flavor. Some come with sanitizer in it too.
The clumps are the polymer chains. So thats not totally dirt. Its a gooey mess
It is a impressive reaction for sure..
This video was pure information. This process is awesome. Unfortunately in dry times those with less have to resort to this type of worst case scenario water. Good to know this stuff is out there 👍
what I like as a filter is an upside down 2 liter bottle with the bottom cut off, so it's a big funnel/cup, cloth ziptied over the spout, fill it halfway up with fine sand on the bottom and gravel on the top, then pour water through that and into a container that has been coated with a drop or two of bleach. it's not perfect but it's a pretty good start, and from what I've read it apparently removes (some) radiation, as well, which is a neat bonus. Maybe that could work out well alongside this bag here, so you preprocess it like that so the magic flagulent stuff doesn't have to work quite so hard to get the job done.
That is one of the most amazing survival products I have seen. I don't know what kind of binding agents they use to separate the dirt and debris but it's fascinating to watch it work. I hope I never need something like it but I am going to check the shelf life of the chemicals and consider getting one just in case.
Thanks for the great video.
It's probably Alum which works similarly in pool water. It's used when particulates are too small for the pool filter to catch. The substance is "sticky" causing the tiny particles to stick together making larger assemblies that can fall to the bottom via gravity.
@@Deploracle That's interesting. Thanks for replying.
@@Deploracle if you listen to him and others in the comments it's not this and its something that works kind of similar.
As an engineering student, I can say that alot of the water purification gadgets for campers are probably not able to make water found in natural sources drinkable, esp murky water. Water systems involve screening, coagulation, flocculation, disinfecting the water etc. And the products for campers usually do 1 of those things very poorly.
In your opinion, which of these things you just mentioned are the most difficult to get around?
As an engineering student, you will learn jack shit about chemistry. So saying “as an engineering student” is totally meaningless
@@v12style67 you ever heard of environmental engineering? Or chemical engineering?
@@v12style67 At least in civil engineering, urban water treatment is a large facet. The worlds experts on water treatment are civil engineers because they’re the ones designing the large scale treatment sites. So no, actually, this is not an area of expertise for chemists, but rather engineers…
@@pixelninja10 what happens in this video is a chemical reaction not a mechanical problem to solve. this is not even a treatment site and unless you're a chemical engineer or anything related, no you will not learn anything about chemistry in the career.
As soon as I get paid, I will come back to the link. I found it completly facinating. I always questioned whether or not some of the promted purification systems really worked. Your video has made me a believer. Thank you.
That first dump reminded me of a time in EMS i had to assist with a colostomy bag
Yes I would like to see what it will do on a clearer stream
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For some reason... this gives the same energy that Bob Ross gives in his videos.. and i like that 🔥🔥
Its so cool to see how instantly it breaks all the dirt in the water!
This seems like a pretty awesome first step to water purification, although I’d still pair it with some other kind of filter just because if there’s any poo poo or oil in the water you could get sick.
But I still think for like a long term survival situation, like if society actually collapsed you’d want to get your hands on a mechanical water treatment system of some kind with pumps, and maybe still stockpile this product in bulk so you can use it with your pumps and mechanical filtration.
At the very least you could come up with greywater for your RV and if you’re really in a bind then I guess you got water
That would be a recipe for water filter
@@Nockgun it’s basically what they do for greywater processing
But as long as you’re not filtering water with raw sewage in it you’re probably fine to drink it
And if you can get an ro unit that fits under your sink then you can get serious mechanical filtration without taking up too much permanent space on your property
congratulations, you said exactly what he said in the video. and as he stated multiple times it was meant to show the process
@@CaptSoapy congratulations you posted a comment that was completely inaccurate for literally no reason
@@Automedon2 I already have a pretty decent ro for my fish tanks and hydro.
All id have to do is find a pre filter for it, like a basket strainer and a tank to use this chemical.
Then it would just need to flow through the filter you could just use a 55 gallon barrel and hoist it into a tree. Two separate small gas pumps to transfer between tanks 1” hose one for dirty water one for clean water.
If you actually were worried about end of the world scenario you’d have a backup gen or solar panels, you’d have prepared for it.
Sure if the planet just split in half it wouldn’t help you none but on the off chance you could survive it then you’d have stuff to use.
Realistically though this is for off grid living or emergency situations (bear grylls on accident type shit), in which case, you’d still have RO attached to your house already, probably an even better one than what I use for my fish tanks.
And the size of that system is entirely dependent on how many people you’re giving water to. Just one person could just use this bag and a life straw, sure, you’d just be spending a lot of time collecting, boiling, and waiting for water. It’s better to engineer something, and water filters are far from the complexity of a nuclear reactor I think you’re over thinking what I said
This needs to be sent to all countries struggling with clean drinking water this is huge
Seems like a very cool product but from other reviews I’ve read the filter at the spout clogs very fast making it difficult to extract water from the bag. I think further testing would be more informative. Good video
Have the people who gave those bad reviews mentioned whether or not they did what he did and made sure that all the gunk was below the spout or that they ran it multiple times like he did? If it is just water it should not clog, but if there is still crap in the water and they haven't used common sense then I can see why it would.
Watching the dirt and gunk seperate is extremely satisfying and relaxing for some reason. 🤔
That's a great back up/ worst case scenario water system. Looks light enough to throw in my pack without worrying about the extra weight.
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For areas that are under threat of floods this thing would be so useful
In the 70s, Dad set up a purifying system that provided us with clean water from a pond with the help of a local supplier. It was a Culligan with alum, the floculant, and chlorine, the purifier, injectors. We emptied the settling tanks, which were àt least 6 ft tall and 3 ft diameter, monthly. Lots of gunk. I assume these are part of the ingredients. Our groundwater was alkali. Public water finally made it to the rural area this century.
Where are you from
@@fountainofspeech1379 New York city
I work in waste water treatment, we treat nasty stuff. The lab work that goes along with the job still fascinates me.
For a water supply that dirty, you could use this system as a gravity filter 1st and the treat what's left. That would save you some treatment packs.
Glad I found this video. Have purchased 2 of these. Takes up very little room in a bug out kit. Well worth the money.
Looks super interesting, I'd trust this to a significant extent if you can get that gunk water to look that clean. I'd probably boil it afterwards to be safe, but that's just standard practice right
Thank you for the demonstration ! Appreciate it from CANADA 🇨🇦
Thanks for dropping by 🙌
This would be a great additive for military use or maybe a smaller one to put in MRE's for one serving and refilling a two-quart in the field and maybe larger ones for whole platoons
MREs already have them as far as I'm tracking, they come in the packet with napkins
I know it would probably cost a lot but it'd be super satisfying to see the whole mud pool cleansed
I've used life straw filters with running water filled with lots of dirt. They do work, and I have been drinking water without having to pay, for two years now. Lifestraws are very easy.
Very interesting. I wonder what compound they're using for the coagulant. I've done well water treatment for about 20 years. This reminds me of a competition that my dad, who started our business once participated in. They were tasked to come up with an economical and simple solution for treating arsenic in 3rd world countries. It was essentially down to adding chlorine and ferric chloride to a bucket of water and letting it flocculate, then filtering it through a cotton t-shirt. He didn't win, but the winners did the same thing, just with a bucket of rusty nails instead of the ferric chloride. The chlorine not only kills bacteria but changes the valence of the arsenic to a form which is attracted to the iron, and also activates flocculation or said iron, which makes it easy to then remove the iron with arsenic attached to it. We used to use a similar method for home owners with arsenic issues, but then absorption medias became available which was a lot easier to deal with.
Можно получить подробную информацию о методе удаления мышьяка, ртуть, свинец ,кадмий,что то ещё он удаляет или только мышьяк?
Neat concept but I think straining water and then boiling it is still gonna be my go to. That being said the grayl is something I’ve been considering for summer months or when traveling.
I prefer the evaporation method, personally
@@techwizsmith7963 how do you do that in the outdoors, if you don’t mind me asking? I think nighthawk in light made a video about a contraption for that but if I recall correctly it required tools I don’t have to make.
@@evanf1443 I mean, if we're discussing products like this, we're obviously in a situation where we have equipment. Honestly, just having a basic funnel with an air tight seal to a tube sitting over a container of your choosing, either boiling it off like you said or letting the sun cause it to evaporate. The funnel will catch the vapors and let it condense in the tube, dripping into whatever other container you'd like. If you're short on time, filter and boil is definitely preferable, but if not then the evaporation method is more effective in terms of purification. I've seen some really janky setups done with 2 liter soda bottles and duct tape, and they technically work despite the bit of loss
Treat it then boil it
It looks like viable system but I see room for improvements. A better secondary clip and deeper reservoir for the nasty bits.
And without twisting which seems to bring up some of the nasty stuff every time (unless the water is much cleaner than in this video). (OK, this would probably be fixed by a deeper reservoir....)
And without removing the blue clip (unless one wants to repeat the process).
That is so COOL!! Thanks for sharing. Over all I like it. Even just keeping the bag in the sun will kill the bad stuff after the sediment is out the UV light will work. Thanks for sharing. God Bless
Excellent video I'm glad that you got really dirty water so we could actually see the process
Those slide clips are awesome! I got a bunch of them in a variety of sizes from "A-zon" a while back & they work great for food storage too.
What are the slide clips officially called? I just looked on A Zon😂 under “slide clips” and couldn’t find them
@@hopeisorange They are called GripStic. I just searched "Plastic bag slide clip."
Really needed this last week on the Cabin Loop Trail in Arizona. Water from springs only, really were glorified mud holes. My filtration system was getting really clogged up. This would’ve been so convenient. I’m ordering one ASAP!
Would be nice to see the same water in a microscope before and after.
Yeah
I've been watching alum flocculation for a long time, and it never get's old.... But, I've never seen a product that makes you "agitate" it for 5min. But, I digress.... The fact that you can turn water THAT filthy into something most people would drink if in a really bad situation, is remarkable. And, in that scenario, you'd probably 2-3x's the dosage to clean it up. And, once crystal clear, if you wanted to take it another step. you could filter it through charcoal, then boil it. Great video!
Looks liek a perfect addition to a bug out bag or any other kit. thanks for sharing.
Waterproof ,,,, purification each one of my units has over 10000 gallons plus, of Purification !!!!
I know it's beyond the scope of what you do but I'd love to see some empirical testing of the water quality. The way the sediment clumped and the bladder spout is really simple amd the product itself could fit into any survival kit. Good video
Here you go
www.hwts.info/products-technologies/e0baff7f/PandGtm-Purifier-of-Water/technical-information
That is incredible 🙏🏽 I’m gonna have to buy one
That’s really amazing, i’ve never seen anything like that. Never had anything but iodine tablets when i was at philmont back in the 90’s. But we also had a gadget that i cant remember the name of.
It was a triangle shaped thing. Kinda tent like, you would boil your water with it over the pot and put a cup at each corner to collect the clean water. The idea was to purify the water by evaporation. Im no chemical expert or water scientist, but i’m not dead and we didn’t get sick, so… guess it worked.
It's a still, you distill your water with it.
Very cool. I did philmont in 08’ same deal, iodine tablets. Didn’t have any evaporation pot, but we were also able to get ground water out of a decent amount of well pumps.
Had to use iodine tablets on my Army unit a few times. One time we couldn't find moving water anywhere and had no choice. I think we doubled or tripled the iodine dose... Didn't work. Whole platoon got dysentery. We shit so much for a week, we almost used all the trees in the woods.
Would love to see a bacteria (and other contaminates) test, before and after. Congrats on all your views!
I would love to see another run with better water. That two run process was amazing.
I am from third world country ..India.. we have been using similar kind of technique from very old times for water treatment.
We take the contaminate water and put some potash alum into it and boil the water then we let contamination settle when it is settled we filter it using very thick cotton cloth 👍
I'm curious about the longevity aspect. How many times b4 plastic fails?
This is really awsome, if you had the time you could collect it, let it set over night and then drain what dirt settled. Then add the product to gather the rest
14:34 even though this water looks clean after doing the process 2nd time, to make it safe for drinking, transfer the water in a big vessel and boil it properly. Boiling would kill any bacteria present and then it would be safe for drinking (probably).
Crazy how much that can change the world in the way of water source know we going to need these soon
I would use this, it looks like it works and packs easy
I think the set is awesome and everyone needs a year supply. I have said for years that a glass of good water an a good peace of steel would be worth it's weight in gold.Thanks man, this is real to me.
Thank you daily dose. This is awesome.
Thank you for the demonstration I seen that being used in countries in Africa it’s good to know that we as a consumer in the US can purchase the same system
I typically use chemicals only as a last resort. The time frame is hugely unacceptable if you are out and about hiking, backpacking or whatever. The filters they make today do an incredible job, of course you would be going through some filters w/that much gunk.
This is more of a survival tool, than a backpacking/hiking tool.
Hiking and backpacking 🤣
bruh everything is chemical.
I watched the short and I had to come to the whole video because it’s so satisfying
It can clean dirt but not bacteria.
That's an awesome addition to your kit. I did not expect it to work like it did.
Color me impressed. This really showed what it can do. Amazing how much stuff it got out of that water.
Halazone tablets were available in California for hikers and foreign travelers at least since the 1970s.
I'd like to see how this works on a cleaner water source.
Same
Clearly having multiple stages of filtration can help if possible. Even something as simple as a tshirt for the bigger “gunk” to extent the life of a filter is so helpful.
It's like having your own colostomy bag to give everyone a drink!!
Ooooooooooh.
Wow incredible filteration process
That is one of the most interesting things I've seen in a very long time, considering how filthy that muck was to start with the result is very impressive.
Seconded! Just incredible.
Im a 45 year old city guy this is useful
Wow its crazy, got it almost clear and you didn't even run it through a filter
I really want to see this water under microscope and there is literally no videos on the internet about this purybag . This seems such an amazing product and thwre is no other good video
Just curious, are you worried about the spicket having contamination? It's been in the same water as you drew it from. Also would you drink right from this bag or still boil it?
The treated water has residual chlorine to prevent recontamination, so probably the best practice is to fill your water source from the bag spout and let it sit another 30 mins before drinking.
If you want to be completely thorough and safe, you will boil the water. If you let it sit in your storage container (canteen, cup, etc) for a while you should be OK though.
Love to hang out with this guy,would learn a lot
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This bag is great! Just a note, if you get a battery pack charger and plug it in while the cam is in use, your cam will stay charged. Not that i am an expert, but i do this with everything i use as far as electronic equiptment.
I PLUG EVERYTHING IN MY BELLY BUTTON.
This product + filter + boiling = I would drink the resulting water provided there isn't any other water alternatives.
Also, one tip I learned is to bring juicy fruits such as melons, cantaloupes, watermelons with you (pre-sliced, off course) since they contain water a lot of water too.
1, needs a handle on the bottom side also for the mixing step
2, @9:22 move the water while it's hung to get that dirt from the top of the bag,
3, the bottom portion passed nozzle and taper should be ~3-4'' inches longer,
4, the nozzle needs a hold open, hands free function
5, the bag twist and clip move is bad- the blue clip needs to be steel or some such- a concave/convex pressing action (think two half pipe pieces, or even an S shape) steel with rubber on the insides not to abuse the plastic of the bag
Impressive actually
I actually have used these in the past, though not for drinking water. I'm an environmental engineer with a specialization in water treatment. When performing tests in regards to contaminants in water, it's easier for me to use this system to get a concentrated sample of the contaminants from the water, as opposed to other methods.
can just pre-filter it through a shemag or shirt to get all the sediment out into a bucket then use the straw from there.
I come here after i saw you in youtube shorts,
I rate 8/10 for this product,Really usefull and easy to use.
We can use during camping and travelling.I really want to use this one if i had one.Tq for the explaination and review.Really helpfull.
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No taste test?
Saw this on shorts. Had to see the full video.
Looks like a must have for my BOB 🙂
Amazing product and amazing beard 💪🏻
I think a third treatment would've made me feel more comfortable with drinking that water 😆 🤣
Sadly that's still better water than most countries have. I think the bag is awesome.
It’s clear but is it clean
In Japan, they use some kind of rice gel to clean murky water.
It isn't for drinking however it does remove all the suspended matter in the water.
They mostly use it clean ponds and other important locations.
All you need are Polyaluminium Chloride (PAC) & Polyacrylamide (PAM) and best to pass through the Activated charcoal. You will still have to boil the water to drink it.
Yes, and it would coagulate the same in the bag with clear water.
He is one of the greatest people I think of when it comes to the (osmosis) water purification
🤔...This is quite interesting. The way I see it, it would be better when this specific product is used in conjunction with another water filtration product as an additional insurance of clean water.
Well done...👏