The Gloam Eyed Queen is a Snake | Elden Ring Speculation Before DLC
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- the serpent is gloaming, jerry
- many thanks to @garrulousgoldmask for helping out with this video even if I'm crazy
00:00 Intro
00:44 The Gloam Eyed Queen
01:37 The Godskin Apostles
04:25 The Rune of Death
06:17 Messmer
07:30 The Serpent God
09:28 Final Thoughts
11:08 Outro
▶ Videos Mentioned
Garrulous Goldmask GEQ video -
ua-cam.com/video/l5Xy7gEe3Pc/v-deo.htmlsi=WzOt-_m7B8HObGtY
Kosmos Rune of Death Video -
ua-cam.com/video/peBowLqaNzM/v-deo.html
BonfireVN Godskin Duo Video -
ua-cam.com/video/15qqlatx1bg/v-deo.html
▶ Sources
Item icons and character images -
eldenring.fandom.com/
eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/
“Gloam sky” image -
www.pexels.com
Shout out to @EpicDoomBringer for the Sephiroth character sliders -
ua-cam.com/video/IBswZK0KBqA/v-deo.html
▶ Music
Sonic Adventure 2 OST - Supporting Me (Biolizard Theme)
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim OST - ISOLEUCINE
Neon White OST - Vainglorious Chorus
F1 Racing Championship OST - Theme of Monte Carlo
Sonic Frontiers OST - Cyber Space 2-4 Hype Street
Sonic R OST - Work It Out (Instrumental)
Ridge Racer Type 4 OST - Turn The Page
Ridge Racer Type 4 OST - On Your Way
Ape Escape Pumped & Primed OST - Prologue - Ігри
Miyazaki is sending a Godskin Trio to timdiggity’s house as we speak.
Summon me and I’ll be there.
HE'S COOKING AGAIN ! SOMEONE STOP HIM !! HE'S SPOILING THE ENTIRE GAME !!
Found Miyazaki
@@timdiggity perfect video once again.
Also one more detail about your MIQUELLA IS melina video is that both characters want a world of peace since melina will k!ll you when you become the lord of frenzied flame in other words melina and miquella will hunt you down for fking everything up
Hey man really appreciate your input. You give the best lore guys a run for their money.
You want spoilers the entire dlc is about mequilla is trying to start the eclipse so he can bring godwin back to live… that the reason why he sent melania to fight radoghn because he was hold back to start and fate
Oh st trina will be a boss fight…not mequilla but st trina the alter ego think of it has fight radaghon
Tim is just Miyazaki giving us the answers because we can’t figure it out ourselves. Miyazaki just acts like he can’t speak English so that he can secretly make this videos under this false name.
Timdiggity is Miyazaki | Elden Ring Lore Speculation
I doubt that clown even know’s the answer
sounds very marika like 😭
Both names have an M in it, coincidence? I think not!
Bro is COOKINGGGGGGG who gave him the hidden files😭😭
Snakes shed their skin -- so if you're right, I would think the "godskin" the Apostle's wear is actually the shed skin of that serpent itself, rather than just trying to mimic its appearance.
Except they have faces and shit on them. Maybe certain ones do, but the ones in the game clearly have the recognizable features of individual people on their outfits.
doesn't their lore say they slayed gods and wore their skins though? am i remembering wrong? plus the skins they wear look made up of humanoid creatures not a snake
@@metalface_villain Maybe that's what they have to do now that the serpent is dead. It would give them a pretty valid reason to begin the godhunt if it's literally the only way they can reproduce
@@metalface_villain Looking at the armor set descriptions, it only says they are made "by sewing together patches of smooth skin." If there's other lore bits out there that say it's specifically the gods they killed, I just don't recall it (I could be wrong).
There are humanish faces on the outfits, but there's also symbols, shapes, and embroidery. I don't think that's definitive. The base skin is smooth & white...which also isn't like a typical snake but would match the specific one in the Story Trailer (assuming this theory is right).
@@The-BCMdon’t the faces also have golden eyes?
It was great collaborating with you Tim! (aka having a dissociative episode TOGETHAAAAAAA)
And thanks so much for your great contributions! We will spoil the DLC for everyone.. TOGETHAA
@@timdiggity Not even Michael Zaki himself can stop us!
(*unintelligible but happy snake noises*)
TOGETHAAAA, you will devour the very LORE!!!!
Honey wake up! Timdiggity’s about to have another schizo episode.
"Mom, the scary man in my phone is making sense again. Can you come and get me?"
Great video Tim - you are cooking rn, loving the content!
Legend! Thanks, that means a lot!
The GOAT himself.
This actually makes SO MUCH sense. Also the fact that the power of runes and other outer gods is manifested through the EYES, think madness, grace and dragon eyes. So maybe thats why shes taking something directly from the serpent's eye.
I totally agree, that was the first thing I thought of when he revealed the snake art. Everything is connected to eyes in ER - to add some more to your list: the Beast eye, the Fell God's eye on the Giants, Astel/Falllingstar's Eyehead, the fact that the blood-star only appears to people who have had their eyes blinded (i.e. the influence of other gods diminished), the fact that we see a bunch of skulls around the Lands Between with glowing eyes which turn out to contain Runes.
I can see where you come from for madness and it's power being manifested through the eyes, but I'm not sure what you mean by the power of runes and eyes, grace eyes, and the dragon eyes. As far as dragon eyes go- that's only where the transformation into a dragon starts. The eyes become dragon eyes as the first sign of dragon communion but the power doesn't manifest from the eyes.
@@MinerDiner The tarnished are characterized by not having that yellow shine in their eyes... Meaning they can't see / are not influenced by grace (the elden beast or God thats part of the golden order). Godfrey used to have those golden eyes for example. The dragon eyes I see it as a form of transformation that starts by consuming or taking the power of dragons. Dragons also had a god that allegedly disappeared a long time ago.
Basically, elden ring has this very clear connection between power and eyes. And also runes that you find throughout the world, the more runes they give you the more they look like irises.
I dont think there's a special dragon outer god though? Unless I'm forgetting something, weren't the dragons also followers of the greater will? Hence Placidussy's holy beams and such.
I always thought the bracelet on Marika looked like a snake coiled around her arm.
Yes, indeed. Seems a little ironic for a Queen of a culture which vehemently hates snakes, hmm?
I thought the exact same thing. And it made sense when she later took them off
Also as we all know, the serpent seduced Adam and Eve to eat the apple, it could be the case that the GEQ (serpent) seduced Radagon, while Messmer, their son, represents the betrayal, then Marika went nuts and killed her.
I personally believe its the other way around, Marika used Radagon to seduce the GEQ, she basically did the same thing with Rennala
@@anakinskyguy500That would make way more sense. Marika has been the evil, manipulative one in the entire story. That's just her character
@@Dastardly_Duo thats what the trailer wants us to think but it can be a curve ball
Only problem is Miyazaki confirmed Messmer is Marika's child, so it'd be a bit complicated if he's somehow Radagon and GEQ's kid too
@@liamace1107well as the statue in Leyndell tells us “Radagon is Marika”
Hear me out. The crucible was a mating pile of snaked resembling a crucible knot. The Chinese Snake Knot symbolizes good fortune. In ancient Chinese culture the snake is considered the guardian of treasure and riches. It's also a symbol of wisdom and strength. This beautiful and unique decorative knot can be used to make a purse handle, a choker-style necklace, a belt or a bracelet.
like the curling snake emblem on the depraved perfumers armor set
@somethingsomewhatoriginal6436 and they're aligned with a house from a far off land... that deals with poison and rot... honestly it just makes sense.
I like that you present these theories with the tone you use. I can’t stand watching theory videos where I feel like I’m being yelled at or they’re choosing to act like if you disagree with them you’re wrong
9:20 the blasphemous blade also drains/restores HP, which just further deepens its connection to the godskins 😳
EVERY snake weapon restores HP
@@sudhanshusinha623 well, not EVERY weapon. There is also the Devourer's Scepter, that steals HP with its skill, but not Serpentbone Blade, Coil Shield, or Venomous Fang (which, to be fair, were made by men for gladiatorial combat and lack legendary status, unlike Devourer's Scepter or Blasphemous Blade), nor the magma weapons, wielded by man-serpents, nor the godskin weapons.
HP being Crimson Tears, the sap of the Erdtree. Literally regaining strength from destroying the Erdtree-blooded.
ABDUCTOR VIRGINS ARE SAD WOMEN WITH BABIES AND HAVE SERPENTINE FEATURES, including the internal snakes that grab you and pull you in!
@@brynmiskb1991 Taker's Cameo regaining HP to the wearer when killing another. Serpent-God's Curved Sword doing the same. hmmmge.
This is BLASPHEMOUS! 😂
I don’t care if your predictions are right or wrong, the curiosity and courage it takes to put up these kinds of videos is admirable.
GG!
Such a nice comment, thank you so much!
So the Gloam Eyed queen was the god to Placidusax in the age before the Erdtree, when she gave birth to many demigod children including the godskins and the god devouring serpent. When the Numen people arrived in the lands betwene the Numen empyrion Marika (in the form of Radagon who had not yet developed his own personality) infiltrated the royal capital of Farum Azula, seduced and betrayed GEQ and when she went to pull the shards of the elden ring from her still warm corpse discovered their unwanted child within. Placidusax fled taking the capital with him, and Marika used her firstborn son as a weapon to subdue the lands at the heart of the old order whilst she built the new one. In the history books Marika would swap the roles of herself and the Gloam Eyed Queen, portraying the serpent as the traitor to the erdtree instead of the other way round and hiding all the evidence of the truth away in shadow.
Holy shit, good job with the swapping story!
Smexy theory ya got there!
I always thought Marika had something to do with this whole thing about Placidusax's god fleeing. I really like your idea
Whether this turns out to be true or not, I like this interpretation of the story. The only thing that seems to be a bit of a reach is Placidusax being the consort to the Gloam Eyed Queen.
Bro held Miyazaki at gun point at this one to get the answers
At this point this guy is just a dev trying to point us in the right direction fr
😂😂😂
I love how so many lore channels have popped up recently with mindblowing theories. It's crazy how there is so much we've yet to understand about Elden Ring.
Yeeees, it also looked like an eye to me! And since runes look so much like irises and we can get them from crushing skulls, I theorised the threads are made of the same "material" (energy) as runes are, basically the power of the Elden Ring. And the intro about the seduction and betrayal, paired with the snake and tree imageries make this into a really compeling theory.
PS: thanks for lowering the background music a pinch! It's still nice to have it there, but it makes it easier to listen to you ♥
gotta be honest, i don't care if all of this guy theories are right or wrong, i just enjoy the yapping
The "Am I crazy for thinking this" theories are exactly what we need right now. This is good stuff here
Just this week I had a thought watching the Godskin Noble at Gelmir, with the snake skin in the background, that maybe the skin / armor of the godskin's is made of the shed skin of a snake that has eaten gods. Rykard's face appearing on the God-Devouring Serpent could mean that the faces of other gods a different snake has eaten would appear too. So the GEQ being a snake would fit that nicely ;P
Right! And the God Devouring Serpent ate not only gods but Rykards soldiers, I think the ghost in volcano manor was eaten, and theres corpses all over rykards arena. The devoured may manifest in the skin thats used to create godskin armor.
you spittin fr
This guy has only 3 videos and he's single handedly melting the entire community's collective brain
I haven't seen these many theories since game of thrones ended
I was one of the guys posting crazy theories on Reddit about Game of Thrones back then too lmao
it makes perfect sense, because as we know, runes come from the eyes, same as madness appears in the eyes
From the first time I saw this trailer it looked like godskin cloth that marika was reaching into. it has the same thick folds, white color, and you can faintly see stitching. however we see a godskin in the temple of eglay in the volcano manner- this could tie into that. snakes definitely have a role that we don’t fully grasp yet. Also it seems strange that marika would reach into a snakes eye, where as reaching into the parted cloth of a corpses’ clothing makes more sense.
(after typing I have a thought, snakes’ eyes turn a milky blue color just before they shed their skin- this is an oily secretion that helps the old skin slide off, so…assuming the gloam queen *was a snake, maybe this skin shedding was where the idea for the godskins came from? maybe the color of her eyes influenced her title as queen?)
That's great thinking, maybe the Godskin Apostles originally wore their own mother's shed skin, but then moved on to using the skin of other Demigods after she was killed, as a way to both gain power and get revenge on Marika!
@@Solibrae that sounds like something I could really see being true!(maybe) didn’t even make that connection
@@caydespliff181 Indeed! Well, your comment helped me think of it, so it was a team effort. The Godskin Swaddling Cloth says that it is "made from supple skin sewn together" but not what that skin comes from, so maybe we're on to something here! We'll just have to wait and see.
1:38 Love to see the use of Neon White’s music in an Elden Ring speculation video of all places. Such a dope game.
Mesmer was the love child of Radagon and the Gloom Eyed Queen. Red hair and snakes were the give away. Also in the trailer talks about an “affair” and “betrayal”.
Radagon hair was red cause of the giants. I think all of this happened before the war of the giants.
Doesnt make any sense maliketh kill the gloam eye queen what ever that thing its not her
“Taboo the game”
Loving it
that would actually be really cool if true
Radagon is a player god damnnnn
Tim you crazy, Frenzied Flame adherent... You're speaking heresy! (and making so much sense!)
Eyes and tears have so much significance in Elden Ring, and other FromSoft games too! For example in Sekiro, the Divine Dragon also dwells in another realm, has a closed left eye, and its tears are basically the most important item in the game.
Timdiggity should take over George Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire and finally finish it for all of us. An amazing imagination!
Could the Gloam Eyed Queen have been the god to Placidusax's Elden Lord? It makes a little more sense for a giant snake to choose a dragon as a consort, rather than a humanoid choosing a dragon. Also, you find destined death (which was taken from the GEQ) in Farum Azula.
Thinking about it now, Marika gave birth to the omen twins after she got rid of the crucible and so it’s like there was a curse upon her. If the Gloam eyed queen really was a snake, it would make sense that Messmer was cursed with the snake form after Marika had Maliketh slain her, thus cursing her lineage.
Ive been thinking the same thing after playing the DLC. Marika’s victims seem to repeat themselves in her children. Malenia’s rot curse even has a parallel with Romina and the Church of the Bud being burned in the war.
well, yes!
@@timdiggity You know, you may actually be completely right about the thing in the opening sequence of the trailer being a snake.
It is the Abyssal Serpent SHORN of light, meaning it once possessed light. Shearing means to remove fleece or hair, and those golden strands that Marika removes sure do look like strands of hair to me.
Following the idea that Marika/Radagon had an affair with the snake to produce Messmer and then betrayed it: doesn't Marika's bangle look an awful lot like a coiled snake? Would make a lot of sense to wear something like that if you were said snake god's consort... Honestly, given that snakes are heretical I've always wondered why she wears a bangle that looks like one.
I also think there's a lot of supporting evidence for this claim in Norse mythology. I'd recommend people watch GamePlus's video on the Norse influences on Elden Ring, because there's a lot. Assuming the Erdtree is inspired by Yggdrasil (the world tree that exists in the space between realms ala the lands between), we know that a serpent coils around the roots of the Yggdrasil trying to destroy it from beneath. This would support your claim that a serpent god in opposition to the Erdtree resided in the crucible, what would become the base of the Erdtree.
It also makes sense that if it were a snake, Marika would be reaching into its eye, the main identifying feature of the GEQ. This is a great theory imo
Ty it seems so obvious that the direct opposition to the golden order/erdtree would be a giant serpent
This is exactly what the community needed, a certified, unrepentant, balls-to-the-walls schizo. Your vids bring back memories to the early days of Dark Souls 1 theory crafting that went on back then. I honestly don't even care if they're even close to true or not, they're just too entertaining.
Miyazaki about to put you in the evergoal if you keep this up
😂😂😂
Great video also the gloam eyed queen's sword looks like two serpents intertwining
IM SOLD BRO
AGAIN
KEEP IT COMING
WE EDGING HARD AT THIS POINT
Pause bro
It's amazing how much information and speculation can be gleaned from a cinematic. Keep up the great work!
He's right! Ain't no rule says a snake can't be an empyrean!
Man I wish the dlc said like anything about the gloam eyed queen
given the more info we've been given on messmer; maybe the brother and sister received aspects of the serpent in a similar fashion as Morgott and Mohg inheriting their curses from seemingly past ages. Messmer explicitly getting actual snakes and an abyssal flame that eats away at him
You could even take the "affair" very literally with this being how Messmer and Melina were conceived. Said thing looks awfully like a mollusc with it's pearl or certain genitalia lmao
A solid " ... Omg 🤯" for each segment, this is really good
Remember when Melina says "i was born at the foot of the Erdtree"... the foot, the root, the base, the beginning. 😉🐍👁️🗨️
Another connection between the GEQ and Snakes are that Snails are crepuscular in nature, coming out at twilight. Miyazaki designed the Snails as Snakes intentionally. If he had wanted the Snails to be actual Snails he would have had them designed as such. Snails are hermaphroditic (like Marika, and perhaps the GEQ is, too).
Another interesting detail to note is the Imps in the catacombs are said to use "serpent-tongued" weapons in version 1.00. The more I think about it the more it seems like tge catacombs are essentially like snake tunnels through which a large snake might once have passed underground. What if the Imps originally served the GEQ, or the Ancient Serpent god? This might explain why there are so many Snails underground (in Nokstella and the Crystal Caves).
Finally, there is a strange coincidence in Miquella's study room in Elphael that needs addressing. Some people have pointed out that there are pots and jars of plants in the study room and that these plants resemble the ones that are shown on the dlc art wherein Miquella is riding Torrent. But what nobody mentions are all of the SHELLS in his collection on the tables. There are snail shells, sea slug snails, spiral shells, oyster shells, and several other types of shells in his little compartment drawers. It seems an odd detail to have included.
Although Seath the Scaless wasnt a snake, he did have pale white skin and was obsessed with Immortality (aka the rune of death in Elden Ring). So maybe the Gloam eyed Queen will drop us the Moonlight Greatsword :)
Exactly! Definitely giving me Seath vibes. Also can’t help but notice a similarity to Priscilla as well. Priscilla wields a scythe(common symbol for Death), is an unwanted crossbreed child (likely of Seath), and she is said to be “the antithesis to life”. So, death. I think if the GEQ has a human form, there’s gonna be some Priscilla vibes
im 5 seconds into the video and had to pause because the music choice just punched me in the throat. thank you for reminding me of that song
You definitely cooking my guy. It could be that the “god skin” is actually the snakes discarded skin as it grows that they fashion into clothes in reverance to her appearance.
Just continue, I like all your elden ring videos
Woah, my first super chat! Thank you so much, will do!
I really think that burned,kneeling lady in the trailer is melina, I think she was a twin sister of messmer and marika sacrificed her to ascend to the godhood (among others) and afterwards locked mesmer as Marika wasnt able to kill him
based on this I would say that Miquela is really purely good character,extremly intelligent who found out about the truth…the truth would be that he would need to kill his mother and father,all his siblings to be able to start a new order.therefore he decided to quit the process and we will see in dlc what awaits us
@@soldierqo I definitely agree that Miquella is a good character, based on what we know now. Maybe he will be revealed to have done some bad things. But as of now, I agree, I think he found out what Marika did and wants to put a stop to the cycle
Fucking finally someone realized this, now please explain to the rest of the humans that Fia is FortIssAx,
We kill her soul (lichdragon) leaving only her body to replicate what happened to Godwyn, soulless lovers in body only rhymes
Hmmmmm that’s actually a damn good theory. I hope we get more lore in the DLC about how the dragons could turn into humans
Exactly, this is how dragons are humping with humans and making babies
Fia is a Tarnished from outside Lands Between.
Fortissax tries to prevent Fia desecrating Godwyn further in dream. While we kill the dragon, he fails.
This is one of the theories I fully support. Snakes were seen as evil by the Golden Order, which is why Marika abandoned her son Mesmer in the land of shadow. He didn't fit the image she was going for for her order. It's part of the reason she nailed the lion to Horah Loux's back and named him Godfrey. Everything looks like Marika rewrote history to make herself look better than she actually was.
The blackflame sigil looks like two or more snakes wrapping around itself to create a shape. The shape itself looks like the silhouette of a snake head! The double helix pattern is seen on MANY things in the game, but the Godslayer sword itself seems very much reminiscent of two snakes mating.
You are COOKING bro!
I’ve been pointing at that thing and shouting Eye and being kicked in the sack since the release. I even gestured towards the living corpses of Godwyn.
I genuinely really thought it was a vagina, but turning the image 90° and drawing out the rest of the head won me over.
An eye!! I totally was thinking about something else...
You’re not alone 🥲
We all did...the others just won't admit it 😂
@@freshhands9461 I... I admit it
Whenever people suggest it's a womb... Well they do mean womb, but I think it doubles as a euphemism here lol
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Killed it again man. Definitely have me rethinking a couple things!
Thank you!! I was thinking the same thing. I always thought that swishy swirly thing behind Marikas statue could be a loose snakeskin. The reverse roles of seduction and betrayal between "Eve" and the snake seem very interesting too.
Awesome analysis! I hope it turns out.
Massive symbolism in the idea of a Woman, a Snake and a Tree at the beginning of creation - having seen how fromsoft have drawn on real-life religion and myth, this fits almost too well.
Yggistral ;)
I love it, awesome thinking! So, as Miyazaki, let me tell you this part of the Lore. Gloam Eyed Queen is the TWIN of Marika, and Godwyn is the TWIN of Messmer.
It's fun how those games have less a story and more a framework for mad fanfiction that still always makes sense.
We really need someone to make a Souls story summary in the style of dunkey's MGS explanation.
Of COURSE it’s an eye that’s where all runes are kept dude is a legend
Could be that the Gloam Eyed Queen was devoured / joined with a snake like Rykard
Three heads missing from papa super dragon. Two great snakes, bodiless dragons...
This makes some sense too. If it wasnt a snake but a dragon head cut from Plasuesidusiax
Bruh.
Gloam, as in twlight, as in a time between LIGHT and DARK.
The Lands between is the land of light.
The shadow tree is in the land of darkness.
Marika made a portal from the lands of shadow to the lands of light using the gloameye'd queens threads.
That makes so much god damn sense in themeing.
Your choices of music are so fire! I love hearing parts of the neon white soundtrack!
Rmemeber the cinematic trailer that shows Godwyn being murdered with the cursemark of Death and something (the Rune of Death?) moving to his lifeless eye?
Umbasa as my witness the boy timdiggity gone done it again.
I think I’m starting to make sense of everything we’ve seen so far. That is definitely a snake, or a snakes head at the very least. I personally don’t think it’s the gloam-eyed queen but it’s definitely another empyrean, more specifically an empyrean tied to the primordial crucible. The shadow tree is what remains of the primordial crucible.
I believe Marika seduced this snake empyrean, which resulted in the birth of Mesmer, who we know to be the bastard offspring of Marika. She then betrayed this empyrean, killing it, and used its power to start her new order, the order of the erdtree. This is why the omens are hated so much by the golden order, Marika and her order would be illegitimate, therefore causing her and the greater will to lose faith. To protect the lie, Mesmer, who is loyal to Marika, was left to purge those who know the truth.
This ties in to the base game’s story as well. Perhaps this is the cause why so many of Marika’s children have turned from the golden order in the first place. Even Marika herself turned from the order after Goldwyn was killed. Ranni knows the truth and separates herself from the fingers, Rykard gives himself to the serpent, Malenia turns to the haligtree and Miquella, who himself has turned from the order, etc. Morgot even calls his siblings “traitors all” for this reason.
Another thing that supports this, Morgot and Mohg being omen inflicted may be a result of the crucible’s revenge on Marika. It’s karma for her sins.
I’m hoping we get a new Miquella’s order ending similar to Ranni. I like the Melina=Miquella theory but there is quite a lot of holes to be filled with it first before I believe it. Their motivations are similar but she’s really focused on bringing death back to the world while miquella wants everyone to live in harmony. Melina’s motivations are central to the main plot but what really bugs me about Elden ring is that none of the endings really result in what she wants except for the death ending but then again, that whole quest line has nothing to do with her. Perhaps she is miquella’s alter ego who has completely different motivations just like Radagon/Marika.
I may be completely wrong about everything but I think I’m right. I guess we’ll see in a few weeks time.
This theory and your other two videos that I immediately binged last night kept me thinking about it in my sleep and woke me up once 😂 you’re a genius bro
The biolizard boss track during the intro is inspired.
Hopefully we can go Super Sonic in the boss fight against the Gloam Eyed Queen
Miyazaki likes repeating themes, so Melina being an orphan of a dead white snake god would be like Kos in Bloodborne. Marika could have just raised her as her own, which is why she was probably sealed in a tower and destined to be burned as well. This would also cover why she's called "MarikaDaughter" even if she's not technically.
Plus, since Radagon and Marika are the same person in some way, if Melina is Radagon's daughter then she's technically Marika's as well! ;)
Also, I believe Melina and Messmer are twins like Miquella and Malenia. Both are associated with fire (to burn / to be burned) both names start with the same letter, Messmer also has his left eye closed in both DLC trailers (even though it doesn't have a mark like Melina, it's still strange), and other connections
@@Solibrae Yeah that assumes that Radagon is Melina's father. I guess we never see Melina's body, so we can't confirm her true hair color? I just assumed that Marika took the Gloam Eyed Queen's daughter and stuffed her in the basement of the elevator where the knife was.
Never even thought that the sack or "thing" that marika is taking that gold strand out could even be a serpents head dam
The elden beast theme is playing in the background and it even roars where she is standing you can actually hear it. Thats why the hair flows. So with this implied, is the game world, "Lands Between", originally the home of the Elden Beast? Or if that's not the case, she brought it over into the shadow/gloam world we see her walking through, thereby enforcing her own order via the elden beast, creating the now golden Order.
Keep in mind, the crucible, was the Greatreee not the Erdtree. Thats why they were called "crucible knights" lol with the original version of how the tree USED to look like. They were then shunned and exiled because of Marika being a maniac tyrant and wanted HER way😂 or at least to hide an "affair" they mentioned.
Edit: WAIT HOLD UP. Did Marika create Radagon in herself to sort of "clease" whatever blasphemous sin she had needed to do to get the Elden Ring??????😮😮😮😮😮
I would just like to, once again, point out that I was subbed to this madman before he blew up lmao
Seriously man, this is amazing and does indeed make alot of sense to me! Now we wait for Ziostorm's and Quelaag's reactions haha
edit: oh yea and still 100 bonus points for being a Sonic OST enjoyer
Realizing the Elden Beast loosely resembles a Snake 🐍 😳
And so do the Erdtree Spirits
Love these videos! The beauty of Elden Ring is that it leaves room for open interpretation and speculation.
Good to see you’ve posted again.
EDIT: Also, the snake is the only character in the genesis story that told the truth. and given that there were 2 trees, perhaps the Erdtree is the tree of immortality, but the shadow of the erdtree/some other tree is the tree of knowledge... the truth of things, of the past, of what happened... Lilith also knew the secret name of god which gave her the power to fly...
Fun fact that may or may not be relevant - Apophis/Apep is the egyptian snake god of the night/darkness, and what do you do at night? Dream... and dream stuff is purple in Elden Ring... and gloam is purple, St Trina is purple the lady of sleep and dreams... who is also Miquella... or may also be Melina...
Also, thinking biblically, the snake in the garden, old myths of Lilith being first wife of Adam who allied with the snake... there were two trees; knowledge of good/evil AND eternal life... Erdtree sap immortality etc. might be something?
The Lilith connection seems really possible and I agree with it, but the way you described Apophis isn’t entirely accurate. Yes, he’s associated with darkness and night time, but he is also the figure that threatens to destroy everything and plunge the world into chaos. Apophis is basically the Frenzied Flame of Egyptian mythology
@@Guiquipedia Hmm, I don't know, I think maybe Apophis is more the god-eating serpant. Since after all, it was Ra who was tasked with slaying it every morning to bring the Sun on his boat. So if Ra ever lost, maybe Apophis would eat him? Hence god eating? lol
@@satyasyasatyasya5746 sure, but my point is that Apophis is a more of an end of the world figure. If Ra fails in his task, the world ends. He wasn’t associated with death in the way that Anubis or Osiris were. Perhaps Apophis influenced the God-Eater Serpent, but I think that the Gloam-Eyed Queen and the Serpent are entirely different beings
@@Guiquipedia Yes, but Elden Ring is dealing with systems of power within which the end of power is basically the end of the world, the order of the world. Since as the order changes, the world and its mechanics do.
It talks about Marika creating shadow when she creates gold. So maybe there was one tree that got separated into gold and shadow versions of itself.
while i’m still stuck on how a giant snake would hold a sword, or why it would need a sword
the geq being a snake makes sense, because it also explains why the godskinners fashion themselves to look like serpents, to imitate their queen. a gigantic snake rivalling the power of gods might be the case study that rykard needed to let a serpent devour him. a snake being marika’s first ops also explain the massive snake hate that permeates the lands between.
also i think it makes sense too that the god eating serpent and the geq are not related, and the god eating serpent is just a serpent. we’ve seen snakes forming shells that help them blend into their environments to avoid persecution (snakes with glintstone shells live in glintstone caves, snakes with skull shells live in/near catacombs or skeletons). if we know snakes and serpents adopt the characteristics of the things they devour (like the 2 winged dragons), then we could assume that the god eating serpent grew big simply from devouring a demigod + a mass amounts of bodies. notice how there are so many bodies, the debris texture/effects in the boss room is a bunch of limbs
If there's a relation to the crucible, she could have arms or some other misbeggotten aspects that include limbs.
I like to imagine Sif with Artorias' sword but a snake instead. That said, i think maybe she is not entirely limbless and more closely resembles the godskin adherents with their weird humanoid snake bodies
Dude is the best Elden ring theory channel after a few videos. This is a crazy run so far.
I think you might be on to something big! This got me thinking and I have my own tinfoil hat theory to offer if you're interested! :
- That serpent at the start is either the Gloam eyed queen or the manifestation of the outer god that ruled the previous age (the age of the crucible?), just like the elden beast is to Marika
- Marika seduced the Gloam eyed queen then killed her to usher in the age of gold, creating the erdtree from the corpses of an entire civilization sacrificed inside the crucible
- Melina is Marika and the Gloam eyed Queen's daughter (thats a big one I know, but that could explain her eye color in the frenzy ending) and she was probably burned by mesmer or his forces
- Somehow Melina and Miquella met, and Melina informed Miquella of Marika's Sin (killing the GEQ and building the erdtree from litteral corpses) Miquella then rebels and spreads this knowledge to his followers
The Age that Marika ended is the age of Gloam, or Dusk, as you can see that the sky is colored that way at the start of the trailer, the golden sky emerging from between the mounds of flesh.
Bonus crazy theory (okay I might go deep here but bear with me!):
- When she ended the age of Dusk (or Gloam), Marika/Radagon created Age of Gold which resulted in the lands between litterally growing over branches of the Erdtree, high above the the realm of shadow. Knowing that GRR and Myazaki took inspiration from Norse mythology and that the Lands between are litterally Midgard, it would fit perfectly with the visual depictions of the Nordic mythology universe. For anybody who is interested google "map of yggdrasil" and hear me out:
Hellheim is the shadow realm
Jotunheim is the Mountaintops of the Giants
Midgard is the Lands between
Muspellheim is the Sun and Nilfheim one of the moons (mybe Rennala's?)
Asgard is Farum Azula (Realm of the gods / Realm of the Ancient Dragons)
And there you have it! Marika slayed Jormungand (The Snake God) and planted Yggdrassil (The erdtree)
Oh And I'm willing to bet one of the people sacrifcied in the crucible were the Numen, Marika's own people. Marika was Griffith all along!
This all seems to fit perfectly... You might be a genius!
Guess we'll find out soon enough! Keep up the videos man, this is one probably the most credible theories I've seen!
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My new favorite creator! Your theory’s are unhinged and I love it.
Love the self deprecating little edits lol. Some great insights btw. Really hope some of these serpent stuff is addressed. We just need more info about the God Devouring Serpent and I love the affair theory.
The one thing that you're missing that puts it all together is the fact that The Gloam Eyed Queen is Marika's shadow that she has shed.
Marika is messmer and Melinas mother, but so is the Gloam Eyed Queen
Could you elaborate on why this "puts it all together"? I think the theory makes much more sense without this idea, the GEQ is probably a completely different entity from Marika
im so hype for the DLC
I feel like the golden threads Marika pulls are like the threads of fate from many mythologies. Needles and thread and weaving all seem to have a symbolic place in this story. Like The godskin stitcher, the tailoring tools and sewing needles both regular and golden, Miquella's needle, The unalloyed gold needle. Pest "threads", Godskin swaddling cloth and Lord of Blood's favor an oath-cloth.
The 'restoring' life aspect is quite interesting if you assume the crucible/base of the erdtree formation is akin to Rykard's sword, and that when people are going to die; they are taken to the erdtree base to be 'restored' or 'reborn'.
I was thinking a dragon, but a snake is also a great theory and also something I didn't think about... 🤔
Holy shit you were right
How ?
Awesome breakdown, I’d always been stuck on some sort of godskin - snake relationship with the apostle stretch attack being similar to the stretchy man-snake attacks in volcano manor, but was never able to put a full idea together. The spirit caller snail is a great catch 👍
Good stuff man, keep it up!
Don't forgot Melina said she is bodiless when resting for the first time at altus plateau:
"I...have to ascertain for myself.
The reason for which I live, burned and bodiless."
The melina we see isn't her true form.
Snake? Snakee?? Snakeeeeeee
gotta say the DOPAMINE hit of hearing that Sonic Adventure 2 song made me realise that this video is going to be a banger
Great video! Love the theories.
Subscribe people, dudes earned by now.
Ok how am I just now realizing your character is Sephiroth from Kingdom Hearts
other than the sword he looks more like Geralt of rivia
Sephiroth from FF7, right?
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Love this idea!! Best theory yet, IMO!!!
I thought that Gideon was the All-Knowing