COVID cases level off after big drop
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Professor Tim Spector discusses the latest ZOE COVID Symptom Study data, which shows another huge drop off last week's figures. However, in recent days cases have levelled off again.
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Beano Annual, 2000 edition. Good work Prof Tim...👍
If I ever had any doubts about the Prof (which I didn't) this would have been enough to win me over :)
Man of taste!
Thought the same, a fair investment, worth c£25 now. You can tell much from what's in folks' bookcase.
@@pontyexpat . It has been well documented now that booksellers are in great demand now to supply 'background books'.
A very good indication :)
I note that your bookcase contains both the Beano Book and a biography of Stalin. Which do you read most often?
Thanks Tim and all the team at Zoe. You have kept me sane over the last year with your balanced approach. It's particularly helpful that you always put the data into context, which is the mature approach.
Government have spent millions on school kids test kits. Great way of getting a significant rise in cases. 👍
Not so using the Zoe data. The trends are derived from a network of volunteers around the country recording symptoms. Any increase is not due to lateral flow testing in schools.
@@brianbanks2774 Students are asked to record results on NHS track and trace.
@@brianbanks2774 Zoe also have an App for schools...Brian.
@@brianbanks2774 Are Tim's figures just zoe app user's symtoms as a definition of a 'case' then? Sounds as though he is talking national figures, not just app users. If it is just the app the rest of what he says makes no sense. One cannot extrapolate app data to the whole population. Either way it is rubbish information and misleading at best.
Had my vaccination (Oxford). Im fine apart from a slightly sore arm and feeling tired. So grateful. After having the virus a few months ago I welcome this extra security against reinfection. I never want to feel that way again :(
If you’ve had it, you don’t need a vaccine.
@@jingleballix the CDC, Centre for Disease Control and Prevention, advise people to have the vaccine even if you have had the virus. If you were treated with antibodies you should wait 90 days.
Here is the link:
www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html
@@jingleballix Of course you do. Misinformation and ignorance can kill!
@@Sozbear
why would you need the vaccine if you've already had the virus
Your own immune system now recognises the virus
And deals with it much better than any vaccine
@@Tm-eg2lx The answer is in the link that Lynn posted above.
"Yes, you should be vaccinated regardless of whether you already had COVID-19. That’s because experts do not yet know how long you are protected from getting sick again after recovering from COVID-19. Even if you have already recovered from COVID-19, it is possible-although rare-that you could be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19 again. Learn more about why getting vaccinated is a safer way to build protection than getting infected.
If you were treated for COVID-19 with monoclonal antibodies or convalescent plasma, you should wait 90 days before getting a COVID-19 vaccine. Talk to your doctor if you are unsure what treatments you received or if you have more questions about getting a COVID-19 vaccine.
Experts are still learning more about how long vaccines protect against COVID-19 in real-world conditions. CDC will keep the public informed as new evidence becomes available."
I'm 65 next month and get my jab tomorrow (20th March) up in North Cumbria. I'm targeting three weeks later before I consider I've any protection. It feels like Christmas 🎄, thanks to you and the team for all the brilliant work.
🐑🐑🐑
It feels like Christmas? Having experimental mrna drugs inside you. Have you completely lost your mind?
Merry Christmas! ! !
I'm 68 and had twin Pfizer jabs without issue as well as my wife, dad 93, both mums 87 and all fine.
Staying safe and following social distancing as well as mask wearing even after having the jabs.
Woo hoo!
Had my jab,Oxford I’m fine no side affects,both my parents also had this one,they are both good x
probably not for long an experimental gene therapy never tested on humans , what could possibly go wrong
@@lightninggornall apart from the Oxford vaccine not being an experimental gene therapy and the fact that it was extensively tested on tens of thousands of humans I agree. Oh I've had my first jab too, very very happy to have had it and can't wait for the second one.
@@GnardlePoot They are all experimental vaccines where trials dont finish until 2022/3, if you want to be a guinea pig, fairplay, R you excited for The Great Reset ?Are you excited for all your rights being stripped away? Are you excited eveytime you put on your mask? Are you excited to own nothing and be happy? This has never been about a virus or health ,its about control, i hope you will be ok but i doubt it, as you have now been pathogenically primed
@@lightninggornall streuth! What garbage...
@@BMrider75 If you think it's bad now ,you have no idea what is coming, and guess what ,they've only just started with us
In group 6, had my Oxford AZ jab Tuesday. 6 hours later quite unpleasant side effects, flu like, including rigors. But would rather have that than actual covid! Looking forward to my second jab 🙌
It had the same effect upon me (also Group 6). I agree with you, much rather have this for a day or two than risk getting Covid.
You are aware covid has a 99.9 % survival rate but you would rather take an unliscened , untested, experimental vaccine ?
@@lightninggornall untested! Experimental! You have zero evidence for these dangerous assertions. We're trying our best to protect all those with a much higher mortality rate, not just those with a tiny risk. Selfish and baseless comment you made.
@@slljarvis well of course its experimental ,it is new technology and the trials do not finish until 2023, these are just facts
Thanks Tim.. As concise as ever.. No issues with my 1st AZ Jab.. Continuing to update every day..
I had the Oxford yesterday. Im completely fine
How is Gallifrey at this time of year? ;)
Have you seen the anecdotal reports that the vaccine seems to improve long Covid. Can your Zoe app research look into this?
long covid is made up, its not a thing
Unless your unable to work because of it and then it pretty real - doctors and nurses have come down with it who are feeling mega guilty as they want to help their colleagues!!
@@eloisepharmacist I am sure that's true. The Royal Free Disease as it was called involved many doctors and nurses coming down with ME, some ill to this day. That was in 1955 I think with outbreaks in Iceland and Lake Tahoe. 260,000 people in the UK have ME, 20 million worldwide, so I wish good luck to those who have long covid in getting help. But the extensive work already done by those with ME, their carers and many doctors and researchers should help, hopefully. Hope they can build on that.
Comment from my dental assistant while taking me from one room to another:
“It’s OK for you to take your mask off, I have been vaccinated.”
Surely the wrong understanding as to what vaccination can achieve at this stage of the pandemic and highlights need for better information and education to stop a false sense of security.
I'm sorry but I disagree. The evidence of the effectiveness of vaccines, particularly regarding transmission, seems to suggest we can loosen the mask and social distancing rules in the not too distant future. Maybe make it discretionary. Can't come soon enough!
Too many unknowns to leave masks off at this stage. A patient might turn out to be a symptomless carrier of a variant which the vaccine is not effective against.
@@essanjay8604 At this stage there is no variant that has defeated the vaccine so I believe. And if one does come along it seems they can be tweaked very quickly to overcome variant. Excellent news don't you think?
@@PabloGarcia-hc8xq No - are you seriously happy at the thought of endless vaccinations?
@@essanjay8604 I think they will be combined with the influenza vaccine program we have every Autumn. I don't think I bothered until I hit 45 ish but I have it every year now because of my job mainly. I understand you're reticence tho. I believe we will learn to live and die with it.....eventually.
I have noticed from the app that infections have crept up a bit in Fenland north Cambridgeshire. There are a lot of people out and about now, doesn’t really look like a lockdown.
It hasn't looked like lockdown for many weeks here in Derby, especially outside of the city centre shopping area. Some of the other shopping areas have been really busy. My husband works in essential retail. Just as well we've done well with vaccinations here.
Same problem here in Melton Mowbray with and 85% increase! Watching neighbours- there is no real lockdown!
@@OrganisedPauper still plenty of unemployed cf first Lockdowns. Many not able to claim benefits.
@@meltonpieman959 any spring street parties? Evidence of transmission outside?
@@TekAutomatica No sign of street patrties but quite a lot of house visitors!
You have really helped us through this aweful time, we never miss a video. Thankyou so much.
Lee Balchin
This awful time is still with us and will be us forever if we keep on the same anti-scientific track. We need to listen to the real specialist ua-cam.com/video/2LSMpuQcTSE/v-deo.html
Thanks Tim much appreciated 👍
Best wishes to Mum too 😻
Positivity is the same or slightly lower according to the gov.uk dashboard. Remember as well that the rates in the first 3 weeks of Sept had a mirrored plateau. Nothing to be alarmed by. Certainly not the apocalyptic spikes that the school doom-mongers would suggest. Also the avg age for cases is still going down. It's all about hospitalisations & deaths and we're on target for minimal deaths by mid-april.
I’m not used to seeing sensible comments on UA-cam.... it’s refreshing 👍
No chance you can pass that info on to laughing boy Van Tam? They've still got the country at alert level 4!!
@@rijamor I'll probably annoy you by saying I'm broadly in favour of the roadmap. At least until mid-April. I think by then we'll be well in advance of projections. I'll put my cards on the table and say that June16 is fixed but they'll give us at least one extra Brucie-Bonus in May.
@@stephenbetley9596 well, we have no choice which is the frustrating thing. I think you're right about June 16th and cancelling people's holidays now probably would result in anarchy. I suspect you're also right that we'll get thrown a bone for the local elections. My hope was that the Sturgeon would f*** things up by opening pubs early, which she has done, but without alcohol! So she is officially as mad as all the others.
Mass vaccination is the answer when c. 5 k out of 125 k under 60 died in the uk ?
In the wake of all the good and bad news excellently presented over time, I pleased to see a bit of light relief over Tim's right shoulder, The Beano Book. Keep up the great work Tim.
Apparently Dennis the Menace is now 70.
I trust he has had his jab :)
I take it you didn't see the Stalin book then? Lol
Thanks for the update Professor Spector- The facts is which we appreciate. I had the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine - do have a sore arm and had flu-like symptoms after 11hrs after the vaccine,lasting for just under 24hrs. Glad to get over that blip, but grateful for the advice we might experience that. Yes, concerning to hear about the rise in cases in Europe, and the hold up in their vaccine programmes due to the health scare over the Oxford- AstraZeneca vaccine - I am much relieved to hear the confirmation that this vaccine is considered safe.
Simon Sebag Montefiore’s life of Stalin, Sebastian Faulks, and The Beano.
What a total Chap Tim Spector is
Why do y'all believe books in a bookcase? Booksellers have done a roaring trade for 'background books'. (Read all about it?) This looks a mildly untidy set up with a range of titles. It may be his books. Equally, it may not.
@@clairecadoux471 you have a good point. After I posted that I took another critical look and the first question that comes to mind is - why is this bookcase half-empty? Rather suspicious, and opens the possibility that this bookcase was bought on Facebook Marketplace purely as something to sit in front of, with a selection of books added from all over the house but not enough to fill it.
People have started to become complacent. Mother’s Day seemed to be treated as a day off. People going shopping in couples and not social distancing.
For complacent read 'deciding to exercise free will and self-determination'.
It's only natural and its hard to know how much some people may have sacrificed elsewhere in their lives that you don't see. But yes it's immensely frustrating!
Schools are testing, picking up asymptomatic cases, surely hence the rise in numbers. Certainly seems to be the case in our NE area.
ASYMPTOMATIC IS MADE UP , IT IS NOT A THING
@@lightninggornall stop lying.
@@davidpnewton The bbc lied and told you it was, there is no proof no science of asymptomatic spread , same with the new variants, just making things up as they go along
@christine cheeseman then you've read loads and understood nothing.
@@lightninggornall ever heard of Typhoid Mary? Of course it's a thing.
Is level off transferable to ICU and mortality and higher than last large drop from significant peak mortality in April/May?
Is it increased testing of students and children? More tests more results?
Bottom line is hospitalisation, ICU and mortality
Such great work from this team. Thank you .
Had my AZ jab Tues slight pain in my arm for 24 to 36 hours otherwise all fine
Let's see what happens in 5, 10, 20 years time shall we?
I was thinking about the same thing for all those who have suffered with Covid and those who continue to suffer with long covid
Love the Beano book in the background
Had my jab (astra) yesterday ,have a few aches and a headache today ,i had covid back in february bad ,so to have a few aches and pains today cos of the vaccine is so so worth it ,i never want covid that bad again
Had mine yesterday too - similar side effects but well worth it.
Thanks Prof, this time next week all my family will have been vaccinated. Grateful beyond words.
And what for? Just to be told to still adhere to the rules, dont mix with other vaccinated people, hang on just a bit more, dont blow it now. FFS!
@@Jess_ica2927 No! Its been 18 months in total and it continually gets pushed down the line.
How is it that the lock downs were to protect the NHS, yet the hospital admissions for covid is very low now, so why can't we open up, especially those at most risk have been vaccinated?
That was the first lockdown. The other ones were to stop the disease. Yes I am serious, that is what the government said.
In early-mid January 4000+ people were admitted to hospital every day.
@@thenewmayorofcrazytown7392 "Stay Home, Protect the NHS, Save Lives". It's still on the main banner.
@@thenewmayorofcrazytown7392 April last year many hospitals were down 40% occupancy - measures have been a disgrace.
@@Afghan31 and how many were being discharged daily???
Tameside in greater manchester on national map says number of cases in area is 82 but when giving me my local area information it says number of cases in area is 1085. This is a big difference! Anyone know what is going on.
Had my 1st dose of the Oxford/AZ mid Feb. Sore arm and headache for a day afterwards, then no problems whatsoever. More than happy to go for my 2nd dose on My 1st. Grateful beyond words!
Had my AZ jab 15th March, no problems. Always good to listen to a balanced and fact based review of the numbers. Thank you Prof. Tim.
Thank you for all you are doing to keep us informed.
Thanks for balanced realistic update. In the symptom study app perhaps there should be a box to tick for 'loss of the will to shave'.
On the press release/blog post there is the following quote from Tim: "I believe we'll see case numbers holding steady for a little while before cases drop again."
Why would you expect this drop? Does this factor in the gradual unlocking and re-opening of the current roadmap timescale?
Thank you for what you do.
Is the zoe app doing any research on where people might be catching covid? I can't remember hearing about any research or facts on this on news programmes.
Tim - not sure if you know this but areas with prisons are showing spikes, That is especially the case in Wetherby & Hull, both of whom are in Yorkshire/Humberside/NE. At these levels a hundred institutional cases (with spread into officer's families) can warp figures. Strangeways in Manchester also had a spike.
Schools have not been fully open. Last week they only attended to be tested, not for lessons. It won't be for another 4 weeks until the effect of schools returning can be better assessed. Hope every one who is due a jab, gets theirs on schedule and no delay experienced. . Xx
Mar 4th-10th they tested all schools, 4.5m tests, 2,796 positives most of which are probably F-P's. What is the bloody point?
@@rijamor Clue: it spreads. We need to make sure infection rates are in remission. They appear not to be, so in several weeks time we can establish what will probably happen before deciding on further lifting restrictions. My feeling is that delay may be necessary and it's pointless rushing into anything where public safety is concerned.
We cannot keep closing schools!!!!!!
@@globetwig4401 I'll thank you not to make decisions about my life. If we haven't learned by now that this cant be beaten by constantly locking down and running away, we are doomed. Cases will go up and down. Its a virus. Best to press on with the vaccines, learn to live with it and take what comes.
@@globetwig4401 maybe so but cases should not be the focus , i doubt hospitalisation and death will rise , if they do the vaccines dont work
Could it be caused by false positives, as the testing has increased so much?
Paul your totally right false positive
No
False negatives are really common. False positives aren't. The actual rate is higher than this, not lower.
Mar 4th - 10th, all schools tested, 4.5m tests, 2,796 positives = 0.06%. Probably all F-P's but I assume they go on the daily roll call of fear?
@@starlinguk you get both with the LFT. Only a second test with a PCR will prove it.
Infection rate was expected to go up with the schools reopening. When you think about it most secondary age kids have parents young enough to not yet have been offered a vaccine so its not a good combo!
It’s not necessarily infection rates going up, it just have something to do with the mass testing of children
Totally agree
Mar 4th-10th, 4.5m tests in all schools, 2,796 positives = 0.06%. Either a) there's almost no Covid b) they're messing up the tests c) they're all false-positives. Take your pick.
@@rijamor isn't that the level you'd expect given we're still officially in lockdown?
@@markatkinson167 the levels dont refer to lockdown. Google them and take a look. I'd say we're definitely at 3, possibly 2. Keep in mind level 1 is pretty much impossible to achieve.
Got my jab Friday 20th. Got a bit of a sore arm and feeling a little tired. Im feeling absolutely fine now though.
Appreciate the celebration of Dennis the Menace.
Thanks Tim, great update. Love that you have a Beano Annual on your shelves!
had my Oxford AZ , it was such a smooth process. I got some reaction though, after 7 hrs I started with really bad flu type symptoms and spent the night fully dressed in bed with 2 hotwater bottles. Eventually I got off to sleep and In the morning I woke up in a pool of sweat but feeling ok.
Had my jab 9.40am, fine, by 7pm the flu like symptoms kicked in. Bed about 8pm to 7.20am, I'm more of a 11pm night half! Headache/migraine, feverish, aches in legs, shoulder and various other places.
@@willrichardson519 It's your immune system confirming its been tampered with! The mystery to me is why some folk are getting no reaction at all!
@@essanjay8604 And lots of severe adverse effects according to the reporting process. Tim's not talking about that though.
@@helensmith9153 I'm warning everyone to make sure they have a rest day booked after having the jab just in case. Its really unfair to pretend there are no side effects. People may have caring responsibilities or work next day and need to be on top form.
50% of healthcare workers in one study took the day off work - so agree that allowing for being unwell may be wise :)
At this stage, with mass vaccinations being undertaken, I’d be far more concerned that the government is now borrowing £14 Billion per month just to keep the country going. Borrowing is now around £400 Billion for 2020.. think about that!
I'm my area, Maidstone, it went up for a couple of weeks but dropping nicely now. Let's see what next couple of weeks brings.
Is the slight increase in cases not because we are testing more and more people though? All the children that are back at school are getting tested, thats bound to push the cases up? Just curious why this was not mentioned as a cause?
Thank you again for a measured and realistic update. 👍 👍
Also had AZ, nausea for 24 hours but ok after that.
I must have missed the link for the mental health survey. I've watched and searched and can't find a way to do it.
I'm in wales, in my opinion with children back at school, there is now a better opportunity for families to gather and meet up as they no longer feel tied down with having children to look after
Thanks Time, common sense as per usual.
👍Thank you and the team of Z oh e👍🌍🌏🌏❤️
The Beano Book?
As ever. Really appreciate the work and outputs this project delivers. Thank-you.
Have had my 2nd Pfzier Vaccine happy days Irene Scotland, Thanks Tim and all off the Zoe team😁
Had the Oxford jab last week. No I’ll effects.
Good luck when WILD VIRUS SEASON BEGINS..
Wonderful report as usual . Thank you so much .
Would it be good to make mention of of the fact that with the false positivity rate at around 3 in 1000, and with the current level of testing, that getting on for 4000 of these cases will be false. This seems not to be considered in the figures and that the plateauing is actually little above zero and will therefore remain.
Many thanks
In North East England School bubbles are already being sent back home. I think that this will increase substantially as society opens up.
They can't keep sending these kids home all the time!! Get the teachers vaccinated!!!
maybe so but cases should not be the focus , i doubt hospitalisation and death will rise , if they do the vaccines dont work
@@wendynicholss6886 The kids are probably bringing the infection in from parents not yet of an age to be offered the vaccine.
@@wendynicholss6886 if they want to have one
Hospital staff who test positive get sent home, but noone else who have worked near them so I dont know why they have to keep sending full bubbles home from school
As I recall the drop off last year was also slow after large falls
Thank you once again
Thank you.
Cases will go down, but it will be interesting to see what happens in the autumn ?
Thank you for these very interesting and informative updates. Thanks also to you and your colleagues for all you are doing, me and my family and friends are so very grateful.
Keep safe, you are doing a grand job!
A breath of common sense & calm data driven info. Love seeing the Beano album in the background😆
What is the R rate now with the COVID Rates been so low now ?
Hi Raymond. Tim said it is between 0.6 - .0.9 in most parts of the UK
Following my AZ vaccine I had a very high temperature, headache, severe muscle pain which lasted for 5 days. I have comorbidities and have never been positive for covid. I have been told that if you have had covid before the reaction to the vaccine is more severe. Is there any evidence for this?
Fascinating Insights. Beano, Young Sralin, and, most revealing of all - White Tiger. (Oh, and thank you for the updates, they really are appreciated.)
Flu seasonality is here every year about this time. More sun exposure, ventilation, UV surface sanitation, and less crowding from winter confinement results in a rapid decline. More workers busy vaccination instead of testing; less PCR cases.
I've just had mine I'm 37 with mild asthma.
Could the flattening/plateau in cases just be a reflection of false positives now that the true positive rate has reduced to a large degree and there are more than 1 million tests being carried out per day? At 1 million tests, a 0.4% false positive rate = 4000 cases.
Tim is absolutely terrific! I actually rely on his accounts. (I also love the fact that the Beano book and one about Stalin are on his bookshelves.
How would you know about vaccine side effects, you only ask about injection site location symptoms in the app?
They ask a full suite of questions about side effects of the vaccine. I should know, I've filled it in and advised them of my side effects and general health. Click 'I'm not feeling right' and you get a whole suite of questions.36 different possible symptoms over four pages and also a free form box to fill in if you want to share any other symptoms.
No they don't. There's 3 pages of symptoms you can tick. Had AZ Monday and felt really ill til next morning. Logged all my symptoms on app
Not in my app they don’t, i filled in the arm specific ones but if there are anymore in that section they were invisible to me. I filled in my reactions under the ‘not feeling normal’ branch and after a few days they offered me a test which shows they were not logging those symptoms as vaccine reactions, despite me bleating on about it in the ‘other’ box.
I had my jab over a week ago, only began feeling more normal for me yesterday.
They are not vaccine specific unlike the site injection ones as was proved by them offering me a covid test, so they can’t be differentiating between vaccine side effects and covid itself. Can they?
Why are we not using Ivermectin???????
Thanks Tim.👍
Does the North cover the Midlands? To Southern people we're the North, but not to everyone else.
You can check the rates of infection and r0 on the Zoe app
@@richplant2205 Thanks.
Tim's pretty accurate with his geography, I think the midlands would be in the middle between lower southern and higher northern rates
@@willrichardson519 Thanks.
I hope that the cavernous sinus thromboses are a red herring. Have we had any reported in the UK? I cannot find any reports?
I don’t think there are any cases in the UK.
Yes, one dead and four others with serious blood clots reported yesterday - all men. That’s 5 people out of more than 11 million AZ vaccinations. Diddly squat, in other words.
Yep. The size of the effect is so low that it is irrelevant compared to the benefits offered by the vaccine. So even if it does cause this very rare side effect then vaccinations should continue.
Once we have the luxury of having the disease under control then it's a different matter. Then rare extremely nasty side effects become much more of a legitimate concern. So research into this to pin down whether there actually is a causal relationship should continue ready for a time where if there is a causal relationship we switch away from this vaccine to one without that side effect.
A friend's cousin, aged 61, was taken to hospital and died with blood clots on the lungs. Previously fairly fit although he had diabetes. I am wondering if they are being economical with the truth. Lots of adverse reporting though on many fronts by MHRA.
@@helensmith9153 that's anecdote and diabetes was a very, very likely cause. If you're concerned then get hold of the death certificate. That will have the determined cause of death.
have u seen how many tests we are doing????? no???
I can't find the mental health survey on the app?
I’ve scoured the website and can’t find it there or on my app. All I’ve found is an announcement about it coming in February. I don’t think anyone from Zoe reads UA-cam comments. 🤷🏻♀️
I was sent mine via email, maybe it went to your spam folder?
2:04 ‘So no cause for alarm..... yet’
Of course cases level as kids go back to school etc. What’s really important is the rate of covid hospital cases and deaths . Still going down down down. And that’s all that matters. The rest is just scaremongering.
Thank you. A much clearer delivery than Lord Snooty.
Top man prof
Deaths are down and that’s all that matters. Get us open
Don't like a plateau
Love your weekly reports and our daily logging 😁👍🏼
Might it be the case that a serious ramping up of testing at schools is causing a false plateau effect? All other figures thankfully continue to fall 👍🏼
Could this be that mass testing in schools giving a lot of false positives??
Having a Beano book in the bookcase is not reassuring , especially as it seems to have taken over 20 years to get through it.
Classic literature!
It shows how busy he is.
If all those at high risk have had the vaccine and are now protected
Why does the number of new cases continue to be considered dangerous
Wouldn't it be better for more of those that haven't had the vaccine
And will not become seriously ill or die
To be infected and build up Herd immunity
That would mean Herd immunity would be coming from both sides
Ie The vaccinated and natural immunity
Waiting for everyone to be vaccinated is just slowing down
The the day herd immunity will be reached
I was classed as vulnerable and had my jab yesterday, so it isn't correct to say that they have all had the vaccine. They might all be having it but they don't have protection for the next few weeks and they are not truly protected until they have had their second jabs, as was made abundantly clear yesterday.
@@YvonneWilson312
so two weeks after all the people considered vulnerable,
Have had their second jab
We'll be free of all restrictions
And go back to the real normal
OK we'll see how that goes
@@Tm-eg2lx At what point did I suggest we would go back to any kind of normal?
@@YvonneWilson312
Apologies
There should have been a question mark after normal
At least most of the vulnerable people are being treated and will have a good chance of surviving, as we know anyone who has the vaccine can still spread the virus and of course visa versa, the vaccine is not a cure it's hopefully a life saver.
The v is out of date my friends it mutates every 10 hours this was made 12 months ago what's in it?no one says why?
Thanks
Cases cases cases. Yawn.
'Cases' are not definitions of infection or transmissibility of the virus, even if tbe tests were reliable.
To use these figures for 'cases' means NOTHING!. So sad to see Tim propogating this nonsense, I used to trust him as a sound advisor.
Sigh.
6k cases from 1.5 million tests is around 0.5%. What's the false positive rate for the tests? Seems odd that a 'natural' phenomenon would so suddenly flatline.
False positive territory. I've commented above. The LFT is 0.3% and higher for PCR. The Royal Statistical Society published a paper on this a couple of weeks ago around schools re-opening. No surprise the media or the govt haven't drawn any attention to it.
93% false positive ,its a joke
I've had oxford jab as no immunity .I'm only 50 now I'm getting worked up with all hype over jab an not really wanting second now with these clots ok them saying only this many have clotted tell that to them have they died ??
My aunt is a nurse, she says to pop a few aspirin to combat the blood clots induced by the vaccine. I no longer speak to her.
That's fine to decline your second jab but just be sure to let the vaccination centre know so that people who ignore the hype can have it instead. It would be a shame to waste vaccines on "no shows".
Had both my jabs efficiently and safely with no problems. Stay safe.
What does perfectly safe mean ? Have there been any deaths attributed to the vaccine, have there been any serious side effects? What are the long term possibilities and implications of a new type of vaccine upon a population. Please define perfectly safe.
If someone said its perfectly safe to take a walk on the beach, what do you think it means, its safe
People say it’s perfectly safe to take paracetamol but in very rare cases you can get very ill from it
It’s safe when compared to other vaccines which all have there own risks associated with them. Nothing in life is without risk. Even being stuck at home through lockdown.
It safe unless you’re prone to blood clots “most probably”. What they don’t and won’t say is that the people who are prone should either not take it or at least take an aspirin with it. They might put it in the information leaflet (or so they said today) but still it’s frustrating. I try to read the news from Norway as they offer some greater insight.
@@idyllbs I've not seen the word 'prone' anywhere. I was under the impression these instances have been completely random?
This guy looks like a rougher version of Gary Linekar!
Positive test is a very poor indicator of anything. Positive test with hospital admissions\death would mean something. Positive test isn't even a 'case'. Its a non event. Unless .........
It's pipeline data. To say it's nothing is idiotic. It can be very valuable.